Just saw the indominus predator I mean upgraded predator in a trailer during the nba finals. Umm, yea, not really feeling it.
Just saw a new preview during the NBA finals. Showed in full force the Super Pred. This preview was much much better.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 09, 2018, 01:44:22 AM
Just saw the indominus predator I mean upgraded predator in a trailer during the nba finals. Umm, yea, not really feeling it.
LOL.
I thought the preview was a lot better!
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 09, 2018, 01:44:22 AM
Just saw the indominus predator I mean upgraded predator in a trailer during the nba finals. Umm, yea, not really feeling it.
Aside from that, I thought the trailer was much improved from the teaser.
Quote from: Mr2Boosted on Jun 09, 2018, 01:45:12 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 09, 2018, 01:44:22 AM
Just saw the indominus predator I mean upgraded predator in a trailer during the nba finals. Umm, yea, not really feeling it.
Aside from that, I thought the trailer was much improved from the teaser.
Oh no doubt, the trailer was fantastic.
I can't find the trailer anywhere. Where can I find it!?!?!?
Looks like Black and the boys pulled the wool over everyone's eyes on this one. Nobody saw it coming. No pun intended.
To even show the Super Pred full out...wow.
Spoiler pic
Where can non-Americans see it?
Quote from: Mr2Boosted on Jun 09, 2018, 01:51:49 AM
Spoiler pic
I actually like the look.
Super surprised to say that, but I do.
More cell phone grabs until the trailer gets posted.
Spoilerish
Virgin Predator vs CHAD Predator. :laugh:
(https://i.gyazo.com/e9a386fb934ba0464f6a49c7a272d248.jpg)
Quote from: skhellter on Jun 09, 2018, 02:17:13 AM
Virgin Predator vs CHAD Predator. :laugh:
(https://i.gyazo.com/e9a386fb934ba0464f6a49c7a272d248.jpg)
CHADSpoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/KtAx2Mp.jpg)
For those of us who REALLY dont know their memes.
http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1265329-virgin-vs-chad
There's a crappy snippet of the trailer posted on someone's Instagram but quality is kind of too subpar to post here. It looks like they actually have money shots though compared to the teaser. They need to hurry up and get this on youtube!
Look at this BOI.
The Great Khali of Predators. :laugh:
He better have his own WWE intro music.
(https://i.gyazo.com/e9a386fb934ba0464f6a49c7a272d248.jpg)
(https://i.gyazo.com/42e74e64991513dc3f3de00c26055418.jpg)
It's a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus!
Just like me.
I gotta be honest.
The Upgrade is not that bad. At least, from those two images. The face looks pretty good. Looks better than the Supers form Predators, that's for sure.
Where did you get this?
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New trailer that just aired during NBA finals shows Upgrade
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 09, 2018, 01:44:22 AM
Just saw the indominus predator I mean upgraded predator in a trailer during the nba finals. Umm, yea, not really feeling it.
What period was the commercial?
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they aired a new 60 second trailer during NBA finals that is much better than the teaser
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jun 09, 2018, 02:37:08 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 09, 2018, 01:44:22 AM
Just saw the indominus predator I mean upgraded predator in a trailer during the nba finals. Umm, yea, not really feeling it.
What period was the commercial?
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1st quarter I believe.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/6/60/Stone_Heart.png/revision/latest?cb=20151013154645)
Reminds me of Stone Heart thus far.
Thank you!
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I just turned the game on about 40 mins ago, and I missed it!
I just saw a version that was shot o. Their phone, is there a hd version someone can find online?
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Chad the Lad? What the hell man. Well maybe it'll grow on me but I am surprised at how good the film looks. The other predators seem smaller than usual though. Is there a reason for that or is it just better materials and techniques.
Chad is rad.
Nice, looks pretty cool, however not huge on the look of upgrade.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 09, 2018, 02:52:56 AM
Nice, looks pretty cool, however not huge on the look of upgrade.
Disappointing tbh, he's just StoneHeart.
I actually like the humans in this. At least what we got to see looks professional and well cast. Top shop, no doubt.
I think he looks okay, but i would have prefered a more practical approach.
Gotta say it's weird to go from a teaser to a TV spot.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 09, 2018, 02:58:25 AM
I think he looks okay, but i would have prefered a more practical approach.
How do you mean?
That was better than the regular teaser trailer.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 09, 2018, 02:55:46 AM
I actually like the humans in this. At least what we got to see looks professional and well cast. Top shop, no doubt.
It was always a good cast, apart from Olivia Munn (From experience-) that said, I'm liking their chemistry from what I can see. Something severely lacking in Predators.
OMG... the upgrade looks sick!!! Somebody know if the trailer is already on internet???
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 09, 2018, 02:58:48 AM
Gotta say it's weird to go from a teaser to a TV spot.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 09, 2018, 02:58:25 AM
I think he looks okay, but i would have prefered a more practical approach.
How do you mean?
The upgrade will probably be CGI for most if not all of its screentime. Its just strange to see a giant cgi predator. Could have been a lot worse though and im sure the cgi will look great by the time its in theaters.
Ths movie looks really good though, pretty pumped now. Looks like ADI did a lot better with the practical preds this time. Mandibles looked pretty good in that video.
ugh
I like the look of it ;D
I decided just to record it on my phone and upload to YouTube. About the same quality as the other one.
Looks like a retread of all the other bad retreads. Jeez, come on people, get creative.
Thanks for the upload. They should have aired this the first time! Love it
Only saw two predators. Wasn't there gonna be more?
Quote from: Lionhart on Jun 09, 2018, 06:29:50 AM
Only saw two predators. Wasn't there gonna be more?
Yes, there will be more.
What you saw here are the Captured and the Upgrade.
Quote from: Original Predator on Jun 09, 2018, 02:05:45 AM
I actually like the look.
Super surprised to say that, but I do.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 09, 2018, 02:34:39 AM
The Upgrade is not that bad. At least, from those two images. The face looks pretty good. Looks better than the Supers form Predators, that's for sure.
As you say guys, I expected much worse...especially if we look the leaked script that said the Upgrade is more 'humanish'.
Now, I think the face is more 'predatorish' than 'humanish'. :)
I'm curious to see his weapons...the ion blaster and the projectile arrow weapon.
Chad (who gave it this nickname?) definitely giving me Concrete Jungle vibes - and that is a positive thing!
NIIIIIICE! But why it's not online officialy? :-[
Btw I saw cool double wrist blades, and mandibles look better, so I guess it calm down some fans here ;)
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 09, 2018, 06:44:45 AM
As you say guys, I expected much worse...especially if we look the leaked script that said the Upgrade is more 'humanish'.
Now, I think the face is more 'predatorish' than 'humanish'. :)
Yeah. Thank God. I was expecting the Predator equivalent of the newborn.
Really he's just a bigger Predator. He's at the scale I thought the Super Predators should have been.
Quote from: azamultic on Jun 09, 2018, 06:48:05 AM
NIIIIIICE! But why it's not online officialy? :-[
I've asked the question of Fox. We'll see. Now to watch this myself. Seems like a nice thing to wake up to!
Corporal Hicks yehhh I really liked it, definitely more than the teaser, I didn't believe the coments about the trailer first) Start slowly liking new design, but do think that the rap song in the end will turn off some fans ;D
The Upgrade reminds me of this
(https://d9nvuahg4xykp.cloudfront.net/5219046428861206456/4695085108512629216.jpg)
They did go with no mask nor armour approach.
Is Chad an offical name?
I really hope that the close up shots of the face use a practical costume and animatronics.
Great, they made the same mistake as the BvS, Terminator Salvation trailers: giving away the twist. Also, not to happy about AvP Galaxy just slapping it up their Facebook. Too late now.
This teaser trailer is so much better than the first one! And I think "Chad" looks great.
Denied on the mandibles ...yet again.
Trailer looks pretty damn good though. They should fire the first guy and keep this dude.
Now that I gave it some thought, upgrade ain't that bad. It does makes sense that it would be wearing an umpires chest protector for his crotch.
In any case it could have been so much worse. Noticed in the trailer that it appears to move like a beast more so than a man.
Quote from: Highland on Jun 09, 2018, 08:10:25 AM
Denied on the mandibles ...yet again.
At least this face is definately not Scar's...way better I think. Especially the eyes.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/20180608_190950_resized-701x341.jpg)
Man somebody needs to upgrade Upgrades name. Chad is not the name for a murderous killer alien. It's more suited for Darth Vader if he worked as the day shift manager at empire grocery store.
Hey, that's an awesome predator face. The mandibles look really good, best from ADI we have seen so far.
ADI do good work on their predators, even Scar.
It's never going to be exactly like the Stan Winston ones from Predator 1 and 2. That's just how it is.
Chad is a good name, let's christen it Chad.
Chad & Alex from what movie, take a good guess lol
Where?
Nettles as a trophy. 8)
Now, that's a cool scene!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kepfeltoltes.eu%2Fimages%2Fhdd1%2F2018%2F06%2F09%2F861thepredator0006.jpg&hash=d4c86c8cd9f13bb056d36416edbcd515ebf79949) (http://www.kepfeltoltes.eu/view.php?filename=861thepredator0006.jpg)
Whooooooooooooo.
:o :o :o 8) 8) 8) :P
This Trailer is good (much more engaging than the Trailer, which I liked, with no more)!
But this ending.....AWESOME (almost disappointed to have seen it here). I would prefer to keep the personal surprise. Well, I'm going to warn my entourage to NOTHING TO LOOK at this movie anymore.
In my opinion there is a lot of surprise !!!
Hell yeah.
Quote from: Master on Jun 09, 2018, 08:58:11 AM
Where?
I think maybe he's referring to the scene where we see the predator climb on top of a car? It's naked as far as I can see in that scene and it looks very sinewy, muscular and slightly animal like.
So did humans create this monstrosity in a lab or did the Predators choose to enhance themselves?
Quote from: Wweyland on Jun 09, 2018, 10:02:25 AM
So did humans create this monstrosity in a lab or did the Predators choose to enhance themselves?
The latter.
Looks more promising than before. And uve got to be smoking tide pods to say ADI did a good job on scar. Everything about that movie was trash
Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jun 09, 2018, 10:17:25 AM
Looks more promising than before. And uve got to be smoking tide pods to say ADI did a good job on scar. Everything about that movie was trash
:laugh:
While i disagree that everything about AvP was trash, i think youre right that scars face was just terrible. (Not just the design of the face, which was mandated by the director, but the effect itself looked bad/fake)
Im really impressed with ADI's work here, maybe not perfect but it looks cool and it looks better design wise than anything since P2
They should change the title:
Predator: Swole :D
Not that bad btw, I hope it stays primitive with no tech at all. That would really be an upgrade
I said it before and I say it again. As long as this movie will be better than avp and predators 2010 then I'm all happy. We can just forget about this movie being better than P1-P2 or on the same level.
We saw some shots of a Predator breaking out of a lab though.
This Predator probably shows up at the end of the movie.
So is he going to arrive in a new ship or is some existing Predator going to inject himself with some stuff (black goo!)?
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 09, 2018, 09:18:01 AM
Nettles as a trophy. 8)
Now, that's a cool scene!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kepfeltoltes.eu%2Fimages%2Fhdd1%2F2018%2F06%2F09%2F861thepredator0006.jpg&hash=d4c86c8cd9f13bb056d36416edbcd515ebf79949) (http://www.kepfeltoltes.eu/view.php?filename=861thepredator0006.jpg)
That's my last name! :D
I can't wait for this!
"Upgrade"
What kind of dumbass betacuck incel generic boring name is that? :laugh:
Let's just call him CHAD, now.
Well, there he is. Poor regular pred. Never drop your guard, or the soap when Big Chad's around.
Quote from: skhellter on Jun 09, 2018, 11:15:21 AM
"Upgrade"
What kind of dumbass betacuck incel name is that? :laugh:
Let's just call him CHAD, now.
How about "Big Chad". Aittle nod to Big Chap. And for heaven's sakes, look at him. Dude's freakin' swole.
Very Awesome :o 8) 8) 8)
Quote from: Wweyland on Jun 09, 2018, 10:54:48 AM
We saw some shots of a Predator breaking out of a lab though.
This Predator probably shows up at the end of the movie.
So is he going to arrive in a new ship or is some existing Predator going to inject himself with some stuff (black goo!)?
If you have not read the early script then I dont't want to spoil anything for you but check the answer:
Spoiler
The Upgrade (the one that slams the other onto the car) is the film's big boss. He won't appear almost at all until the 2nd part of the movie. The other Predator called the Captured is the one you saw on the Empire's picture and in most of the trailer. He is captured by the humans and he eventually manages to break out the lab.
There will be 2 other 'friendly' Predators who will appear towards the end of the film.
The Captured arrives at Earth on a separate escape pod in beginning of the film. The ship you see in the trailer is called The Ark and it's the Upgrade's ship. He will have some really interesting surprises onboard. ;)
The 2 friendly Predators are on Earth by the time when the Captured arrives with his escape pod, however - of course - this will be turned out later on.
If we're goin by Urban Dictionary's definition of Chad it fits him perfectly.
QuoteA stereotypical douchebag asshole/jock/frat boy/ with an ego the size of the planet, who needs a swift roundhouse kick to the jaw, ala Chuck Norris style (though if actually issued by Norris, this punishment may be too extreme, even for a chad). Basically, they think they're the best at everything, love to talk shit, and are a general nuisance in every way possible
It's exactly that. :laugh:
Big CHAD is good.
MAD CHAD
CHAD THE LAD
or even
CHAD, THE MAD LAD
are also acceptable.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 09, 2018, 11:24:42 AM
If you have not read the early script then I dont't want to spoil anything for you but check the answer:
Spoiler
CHAD, THE MAD LAD (the one that slams the other onto the car) is the film's big boss. He won't appear almost at all until the 2nd part of the movie. The other Predator called the Captured is the one you saw on the Empire's picture and in most of the trailer. He is captured by the humans and he eventually manages to break out the lab.
There will be 2 other 'friendly' Predators who will appear towards the end of the film.
The Captured arrives at Earth on a separate escape pod in beginning of the film. The ship you see in the trailer is called The Ark and it's the Upgrade's ship. He will have some really interesting surprises onboard. ;)
The 2 friendly Predators are on Earth by the time when the Captured arrives with his escape pod, however - of course - this will be turned out later on.
Corrected this post.
Man's swole AF, tho! Size of that bastard!
Trailer is much better. The teaser was just that, it would seem - a teaser.
Feel a lot better having seen this, TBH - even if I don't agree with 'GM Preds'.
Such a f**king lad, isn't he?
Can imagine him stepping out in his Balenciagas and going for a cheeky Nando's.
#LadZone
An absolute unit
My hypeboner for this movie grew 3 sizes this day.
Wonder if he has the top bantz, tho?
Didn't Robert Rodriguez want the 20th century fox logo in Pred vision for predators? Thought that was pretty slick
The Chad is great.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GbSCzPzVKRs
Just release it on dvd to save the embarrasment
I like what the actors are doing, might be fun to watch them.
As for Chad... didn't we have enough of this upgrade stuff in Predators? Why would they just rehash it and literally just make it bigger.
Well well well, look at almost everyone starting to having hope now for this movie hahahaaaa :P
It was way better than the teaser, the captured face looks good enough honestly, an agressive look that's what i want ! He looks really cool when he's showed wholly, when he holds Nettles it's a f**king great shot ! The upgrade, or maybe Chad from now on lol, looks great too ! f**king savage ! I didn't think they would show him this early !
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 09, 2018, 12:33:13 PM
Well well well, look at almost everyone starting to having hope now for this movie hahahaaaa [emoji14]
It was way better than the teaser, the captured face looks good enough honestly, an agressive look that's what i want ! He looks really cool when he's showed wholly, when he holds Nettles it's a f**king great shot ! The upgrade, or maybe Chad from now on lol, looks great too ! f**king savage ! I didn't think they would show him this early !
Yeah I'm quite surprised they showed him so early, but hey I'm glad people are starting to have hope again
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Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 09, 2018, 11:01:26 AM
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 09, 2018, 09:18:01 AM
Nettles as a trophy. 8)
Now, that's a cool scene!
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That's my last name! :D
I can't wait for this!
Will you particularly root for him in the movie ? ;)
Maybe they should have nixed the speedo and gone with a
This is the End route. It's probably as big as a house.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 09, 2018, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 09, 2018, 11:01:26 AM
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 09, 2018, 09:18:01 AM
Nettles as a trophy. 8)
Now, that's a cool scene!
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That's my last name! :D
I can't wait for this!
Will you particularly root for him in the movie ? ;)
For Nettles? Looks like he's a goner... as I suspected. Lol
Quote from: skhellter on Jun 09, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
Corrected this post.
Umm...why? Just because you gave him the name Chad? ::)
I call him what he's 'officially' called in the leaked script...the Upgrade.
:laugh:
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 09, 2018, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: Highland on Jun 09, 2018, 08:10:25 AM
Denied on the mandibles ...yet again.
At least this face is definately not Scar's...way better I think. Especially the eyes.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/20180608_190950_resized-701x341.jpg)
He's cross eyed?!
I will say though it's better than AVP.
We've been fooled before, but this genuinely looks good. They should go into hyperdrive with the marketing.
Amazing what some better editing and some money shots can do.
The Big Chad, that's a good one.
Doesn't look good at all... just stupid brainless fighting
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 09, 2018, 12:46:23 PM
Maybe they should have nixed the speedo and gone with a This is the End route. It's probably as big as a house.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 09, 2018, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 09, 2018, 11:01:26 AM
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 09, 2018, 09:18:01 AM
Nettles as a trophy. 8)
Now, that's a cool scene!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kepfeltoltes.eu%2Fimages%2Fhdd1%2F2018%2F06%2F09%2F861thepredator0006.jpg&hash=d4c86c8cd9f13bb056d36416edbcd515ebf79949) (http://www.kepfeltoltes.eu/view.php?filename=861thepredator0006.jpg)
That's my last name! :D
I can't wait for this!
Will you particularly root for him in the movie ? ;)
For Nettles? Looks like he's a goner... as I suspected. Lol
Damn he has strong hair though :laugh:
Quote from: Xan21 on Jun 09, 2018, 01:39:10 PM
Doesn't look good at all... just stupid brainless fighting
You didn't find any redeeming qualities in this trailer honestly ?
Quote from: Xan21 on Jun 09, 2018, 01:39:10 PM
Doesn't look good at all... just stupid brainless fighting
Cant make everyone happy I suppose.
I see no signs of cloaked preds pov stuff... you know the mystery and suspense, the tribal feel etc
It looks silly
Quote from: Xan21 on Jun 09, 2018, 01:46:43 PM
I see no signs of cloaked preds pov stuff... you know the mystery and suspense, the tribal feel etc
It looks silly
I agree that they could've/should've add one or two iconic shots like these, yes.
Quote from: Xan21 on Jun 09, 2018, 01:46:43 PM
I see no signs of cloaked preds pov stuff... you know the mystery and suspense, the tribal feel etc
It looks silly
Cant please everyone I suppose.
Oof, the absolute gains on this unit.
Can't say I'm too pleased with this. It's just a Roid Chadator. Was expecting something a bit weirder and more menacing.
There's plenty of time to add more trailers to make more folks happy
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HD Version
http://comicbook.com/horror/2018/06/09/the-predator-trailer/
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Quote from: Xan21 on Jun 09, 2018, 01:39:10 PM
Doesn't look good at all... just stupid brainless fighting
Not trying to reinvent the wheel is the first step to realising what was good in the first place.
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Funny how they completely cut out the kid in this trailer :laugh:
Also we can see Holbrook with a predator wrist gauntlet on his arm at 0:45
And at 0:34 it looks like dual wrist blades, not single... I don't understand anymore lol.
Quote from: Highland on Jun 09, 2018, 02:03:01 PM
Quote from: Xan21 on Jun 09, 2018, 01:39:10 PM
Doesn't look good at all... just stupid brainless fighting
Not trying to reinvent the wheel is the first step to realising what was good in the first place.
Guess Shane Black isn't the only one who doesn't realise what made the first two so great
It took me seeing this HD Version and casting it to my TV to see the wrist gaunlet on Quinn
I think they wanted to make this one stand out to bring more exciting moments to draw in those on the fence
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I'm so glad I waited for them to upload the official HD trailer, this looks badass! Chad is surprisingly a highlight in my opinion.
I love all of Boyd's lines so far too, the highlight was The Upgrade grabbing the Captured Predator through the window!
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These HD trailers are not HD enough (compare with the first one from Fox). Still waiting for the official-official version.
Quote from: Wweyland on Jun 09, 2018, 02:33:22 PM
These HD trailers are not HD enough (compare with the first one from Fox). Still waiting for the official-official version.
Well it's better than the bootleg that sounded like it was inside a can
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Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 09, 2018, 02:26:47 PM
I'm so glad I waited for them to upload the official HD trailer, this looks badass! Chad is surprisingly a highlight in my opinion.
Yes it's a highlight for me too, badass stance at the end ! And badass stance for the captured pred too when he holds Nettles by the hair ! For me it was kinda reminiscent to some stances the city hunter had in P2, really cool.
Yeah no kid.
Much much better.
Oh wow, that looks terrible. There's no defending this movie now, this is a Predator movie for people who hate Predator movies. Shane Black should be ashamed and so should this movie's defenders!
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 09, 2018, 01:44:36 PM
Quote from: Xan21 on Jun 09, 2018, 01:39:10 PM
Doesn't look good at all... just stupid brainless fighting
Cant make everyone happy I suppose.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 09, 2018, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: Xan21 on Jun 09, 2018, 01:39:10 PM
Doesn't look good at all... just stupid brainless fighting
You didn't find any redeeming qualities in this trailer honestly ?
Very little and they gave away about the only twist they had... it's good to get the tone, but as a whole they seem to focus on spectacle over substance. I would rather see a less hamfisted version leaning towards thriller.
Is this the official thread of the new trailer?
Still doesn't seem to represent the tone of the film. And I'm glad Chad looks like a Predator. Still dislike the genetic mutation idea, I don't care that this is a new direction and nothing in the original films says this couldn't happen. It doesn't suit the established Predator lore in my opinion. Seems more like a superhero idea. You wouldn't even need other DNA to make yourself bigger. BUT seeing that Pred ripped through the window was pretty cool.
Oh and I liked the Masters of War song being used.
So they pretty much took the super predator concept from Predators and pumped some aes and gh into it.
It`s kind of how Jurassic Park went... the third one had a bigger threat kill the previous bad guy, then the forth movie brought a genetic mutant version of the original bad guy. The Predator seems to be going the same route.
But it feels too much like those comics full of crazy concepts... what's next? A four armed predator? Human-Predator hybrids? It's not as bad as what Ridley did in Covenant, but lately the directors and writers seem to only having the worst ideas for the next movies.
I just hope that they really follow Jurassic World end and have the classic pred win over this cursed chad.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 09, 2018, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 09, 2018, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jun 09, 2018, 12:02:08 PM
An absolute unit
Made me LOL
I don't get it, what's that "absolute unit" thing ?
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/absolute-unit (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/absolute-unit)
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 09, 2018, 03:08:23 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 09, 2018, 01:44:36 PM
Quote from: Xan21 on Jun 09, 2018, 01:39:10 PM
Doesn't look good at all... just stupid brainless fighting
Cant make everyone happy I suppose.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 09, 2018, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: Xan21 on Jun 09, 2018, 01:39:10 PM
Doesn't look good at all... just stupid brainless fighting
You didn't find any redeeming qualities in this trailer honestly ?
Very little and they gave away about the only twist they had... it's good to get the tone, but as a whole they seem to focus on spectacle over substance. I would rather see a less hamfisted version leaning towards thriller.
It's stll a bit much action packed indeed.
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An absolute unit
Made me LOL
I don't get it, what's that "absolute unit" thing ?
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/absolute-unit (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/absolute-unit)
Thanks ! And it suits the lad well !
Looks good to me.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 09, 2018, 02:41:34 PM
Yes it's a highlight for me too, badass stance at the end ! And badass stance for the captured pred too when he holds Nettles by the hair ! For me it was kinda reminiscent to some stances the city hunter had in P2, really cool.
Yeah I'm wondering how Nettles gets out of that situation! lol Definitely reminiscent of City Hunter's stance.
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jun 09, 2018, 02:29:49 PM
I love all of Boyd's lines so far too, the highlight was The Upgrade grabbing the Captured Predator through the window!
I like the attitude Boyd's bringing to his character, at least based on the few lines he's delivered in the trailers. I'm looking forward to seeing more.
Yeah, kids not in the trailer.
Let's be clear though, the kid himself is not the problem. For example I have no problem with Newt in Aliens. She's a kid in an adult situation and fits into that accordingly. It's how they misused him in the teaser, and ultimately how they will use him in the final movie. If he is still the autistic wunderkind in the final film, that's a huge tonal problem for a Predator film. It does not fit. Square hole, round peg.
When I read the leaked script, all I could think during Rory's scenes were. "This would be great... If it were in Stranger Things." Because it would totally fit to have a character like Rory in Stranger Things. It does not fit a Predator film in my mind.
Visually the Predator's have been robbed of some of their visual interest, and have been ever since SWS stopped doing their costumes and effects. I would have loved had SWS been involved with The Predator.
However I will reiterate that I like the look of Chad. He still looks like a Predator, just bigger and more feral, and thankfully they didn't give him some God awful "human" eyes.
Quote from: Jacku on Jun 09, 2018, 03:21:28 PM
Is this the official thread of the new trailer?
Still doesn't seem to represent the tone of the film. And I'm glad Chad looks like a Predator. Still dislike the genetic mutation idea, I don't care that this is a new direction and nothing in the original films says this couldn't happen. It doesn't suit the established Predator lore in my opinion. Seems more like a superhero idea. You wouldn't even need other DNA to make yourself bigger. BUT seeing that Pred ripped through the window was pretty cool.
Oh and I liked the Masters of War song being used.
Yeah the big issue here is that, although Hicks said that Black has indicated it doesn't apply to all Predators, all of the dialogue in the film that I have read pretty much indicates that it's a species thing. "They" this and "they" that.
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 09, 2018, 03:48:56 PM
Yeah I'm wondering how Nettles gets out of that situation! lol Definitely reminiscent of City Hunter's stance.
Well
Spoiler
Captured Predator is classified as "good" in the script. Relatively speaking, anyway. He kills some dudes who get in his way, but he's after something.
That comes out of left field.
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 09, 2018, 03:48:56 PM
I like the attitude Boyd's bringing to his character, at least based on the few lines he's delivered in the trailers. I'm looking forward to seeing more.
Yeah, he's doing a great job. Now i'd really really like for them to show me some of Thomas Jane. Goddamnit.
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Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 09, 2018, 02:41:34 PM
Yes it's a highlight for me too, badass stance at the end ! And badass stance for the captured pred too when he holds Nettles by the hair ! For me it was kinda reminiscent to some stances the city hunter had in P2, really cool.
Yeah I'm wondering how Nettles gets out of that situation! lol Definitely reminiscent of City Hunter's stance.
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jun 09, 2018, 02:29:49 PM
I love all of Boyd's lines so far too, the highlight was The Upgrade grabbing the Captured Predator through the window!
I like the attitude Boyd's bringing to his character, at least based on the few lines he's delivered in the trailers. I'm looking forward to seeing more.
This scene with Nettles doesn't exist at all in the script, which is really cool, knowing that they add a lot more (the captured pred slammed on a car wasn't either) than what was intended to be in the first draft is great ! I can't wait !
Quote from: Upgradesucks! on Jun 09, 2018, 03:02:39 PM
Oh wow, that looks terrible. There's no defending this movie now, this is a Predator movie for people who hate Predator movies. Shane Black should be ashamed and so should this movie's defenders!
What doesn't look good about it OBJECTIVELY?
I'll say this, while this teaser is not perfect by any means, it does show more promise than the 1st trailer. I can see the potential in this movie now. Let's hope it is good.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jun 09, 2018, 03:23:25 PM
Human-Predator hybrids?
That's what you're looking at, conceptually.
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I just hope that they really follow Jurassic World end and have the classic pred win over this cursed chad.
Spoiler
Upgrade wipes out Captured and the two ally Predators without so much as taking a deep breath.
Quote from: KillCrites on Jun 09, 2018, 03:55:03 PM
What doesn't look good about it OBJECTIVELY?
The overall visual style is very bland and generic. Lot's of grey, silver, chrome. Muted color palette. Looks rather dull to my eye.
Conceptually there's still a lot that can go potentially wrong here.
The characters, the actors playing this, will likely elevate the film.
I was waiting for the official trailer release before I commented. Although I appreciated everyone who let us know about it last night.that phone footage was a little rough. Which is to be expected.
I liked the trailer allot, I think they could have avoided showing the upgrade. But, trailers these days don't seem to bother trying to keep surprises before release. Granted most fans read the leaked script or watched videos from those who have. However, your general audience haven't. Which is why the reveal at the end kind of bums me out a bit.
All that aside? I think this is the trailer they should have released originally. It built too something with the upgrade at the end. I think had this been what we saw released after all that time. People would have been less harsh on it. Especially general audiences, who get a bunch of action scenes with two different predators shown at the end of it.
Of what I can see, I like the upgrades design. Yes, it's reminiscent of Stone Heart from the Concrete Jungle game. But, it's still enough of it's own design that I can dig it.
By the way, I refuse to use the name " Chad ". Any name derived from a 4chan meme is garbage.
@Killcrites
How about the fact that it looks like a high end tv movie for one? It looks and feels like a God damn Syfy miniseries, right down to the awful cgi rendering of that idiotic "Upgraded" Predator you FAKE Predator fans are all so excited about?
Anyone know what song is used in the trailer?
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 09, 2018, 04:00:46 PM
That's what you're looking at, conceptually.
Wat. How does using human dna makes a predator 10 feet tall? It should make the opposite. The hell is wrong with Fox? People can say what they want about AVPR but the Brothers Strause prevented Fox to make a predalien that use predator weapons, at least they had a little idea of what the fans would hate and seems to have been more faithful to the lore than Covenant and now this one.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 09, 2018, 04:00:46 PM
Spoiler
Upgrade wipes out Captured and the two ally Predators without so much as taking a deep breath.
I suppose that's what it is in original script. I heard of some reshoots, that there have been some changes in the last part of the movie, so maybe that could be it. Otherwise it's already worse than Predators. Now it's about if it will at least be better than the avp movies.
Quote from: JungleHunter87 on Jun 09, 2018, 04:08:50 PM
Of what I can see, I like the upgrades design. Yes, it's reminiscent of Stone Heart from the Concrete Jungle game. But, it's still enough of it's own design that I can dig it.
I actually liked that game's bad bloods but this upgrave is way too tall, Stone Heart was just an above average height predator, there were shorter younger predators in Concrete Jungle too, having been tortured and brainwashed by humans, their concept was done much better than this dna mods thing.
Quote from: Stealth_Hunter on Jun 09, 2018, 04:10:25 PM
Anyone know what song is used in the trailer?
Wondering the same thing
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A lot better then the teaser. I like this, knowing what the script was, this seems like the best possible execution. Not a fan of the Upgrade idea, but he doesn't seem too out there.
Cool to hear Bob Dylan "Master's of War" in the background, nice choice of a tune
Don't know why, but I get a bit of an Uruk Hai vibe from Chad...
Master's of War by Bob Dylan
Sounds similar to this version of the song.
OBJECTIVELY Shane Black is a hacky tv director who never moved past his tv comfort zone. OBJECTIVELY Iron Man 3 was nothing but another mediocre superhero movie. OBJECTIVELY Nice Guys was a flop that nobody saw and nobody cared about. OBJECTIVELY Shane Black's only other claim to fame as a creator is Lethal Weapon. A venerable film no doubt, and one that Iron Man 3 and Nice Guys don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as LW but a movie that came out decades ago. Your Boy Black hasn't shown a lick of competence even close since and he never will again!
OBJECTIVELY this movie will FAIL on every conceivable level and this franchise will be buried deeper than a racist Mickey Mouse cartoon, and to head off your canned fanboy "crystal ball" remarks I don't need psychic powers to smell the stink of a turd. I see what I see, and I'm not wearing fanboy goggles.
Quote from: Shaeffer11 on Jun 09, 2018, 04:37:41 PM
Master's of War by Bob Dylan
Thanks!
Quote from: Jacku on Jun 09, 2018, 04:39:58 PM
Sounds similar to this version of the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8DSSLZKBGw
I saw you mentioned the name earlier but I missed it haha that version is sick!! Thanks for sharing, I was looking for it too!
The classic Predator looks spot on, i really think this movie will be a blast. My only worry i had with this movie, the Upgrade, has now vanished, he looks like a real monster and staying true to the design was the right choice.
September can't come soon enough.
From the brief glimpse, I think the Upgrade looks good. More Predator-y than I was fearing given what I've heard about the human eyes. The NECA figure will inevitably look great on my shelf.
Seeing a bit of a regular Predator, the Good Guy Predator and this new super Predator who are all different... I dont think the Good Guy Predator is actually a guy Predator. :o :laugh:
Is the big Pred a female one?
*looks up to the sky* "so come and get us."
That's the last line of the movie, calling it.
Quote from: Upgradesucks! on Jun 09, 2018, 03:02:39 PM
Oh wow, that looks terrible. There's no defending this movie now, this is a Predator movie for people who hate Predator movies. Shane Black should be ashamed and so should this movie's defenders!
How 'bout the Predator fans that recognize that the concept is inherently silly and are ok with it going full cartoon?
I thought this trailer, unlike the first, was actually exciting and hooks your attention - I like the song usage - but that upgrade. So ugly and unnecessary.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 09, 2018, 05:17:11 PM
How 'bout the Predator fans that recognize that the concept is inherently silly and are ok with it going full cartoon?
I mean... That is certainly a valid perspective. Why would you want that though?
Because even the good Pred content basically just silly fun. This is more in that vein but with a Shane Black twist.
#empathy.
Just wish the cinematography wasnt so dull.
Bring on the Kenner Predators.
Like I said, a movie for "Predator fans" who hate Predator.
Ugly? he looks no different than any other predator, he's just taller.
I really dislike this roided out, godzilla looking CGI predator. However, I'll give credit where credit is due, that at least he still looks like a predator and not some mish-mash of other alien features to make him "cooler," at least from what we've seen so far. And I liked the trailer overall. I dig the song choice, the editing is much better, and it's far more captivating than the original teaser!
Dude's wearing predator tech at :45. A gauntlet.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 09, 2018, 05:33:26 PM
Dude's wearing predator tech at :45. A gauntlet.
Continuing the theme from Predator 2 that Predator's like to leave their toys just lying around.
Well, it looks like the first contact scene. And it's not the gauntlet used by the upgrade. So this thing just latches onto him or something? The predator appears and attacks them, then he ships the stuff back to his kid maybe? Either way, it looks to be captured preds gauntlet.
I hope they don't pull some angle where Predators upgrading or injecting human dna has allowed humans to interface with their new technology. District 8 already did that.
Poor Scarface.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 09, 2018, 05:53:28 PM
Well, it looks like the first contact scene. And it's not the gauntlet used by the upgrade. So this thing just latches onto him or something? The predator appears and attacks them, then he ships the stuff back to his kid maybe? Either way, it looks to be captured preds gauntlet.
Spoiler
In the original script, our lead dudebro get's a mask and a gauntlet. He sends the mask to a safety box which he didn't pay the bill on or something so it get's shipped to his son.
He holds onto the gauntlet, though in the script it's called an orb or something. It allows him to cloak and evade capture by the black ops dudes that show up after the predator escape pod crashes. Both pieces of equipment come from captured.
When Captured busts out he raids an armory that the mercenary dudes have filled with Predator gear.
Quote from: The Old One on Jun 09, 2018, 05:53:53 PM
Poor Scarface.
Him too! Incidentally the way Upgrade moves actually reminds me of Scarface from CJ. The crouched posture Scarface takes on after he leaps through a window in the opening really feels the same.
Honestly at this point i'm just wondering why they haven't taken the essence of "Predator : Bad Blood" and just made that into a movie.
Oh my god! That looks awful!! I'm calling it! This movie is gonna suck.
This is feeling like Super 8 and District 9 rolled into one movie, with a dash of The Watch and the slightest hint of predator.
Can someone please explain the name Chad to me. I don't get it at all???...
Quote from: goose_3387 on Jun 09, 2018, 06:06:41 PM
Can someone please explain the name Chad to me. I don't get it at all???...
He was a dear friend and a valued member. We don't like to talk about it. ;)
Thought I saw him again yesterday, alas, twas just a bush.
Also, unless I misinterpreted the question,
"The meaning of the name Chad is From The Warrior's Town. The origin of the name Chad is English. This is the culture in which the name originated, or in the case of a word, the language. Originally a nickname for Chadwick in the U.S. And is also the name of a country in Africa"
Unless it's referring to the male virgin terror people, who have been in the news lately. Chad for them I believe, is a reference to any guy that's gettin' him some, while they're not.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 09, 2018, 06:11:16 PM
Unless it's referring to the male virgin terror people, who have been in the news lately. Chad for them I believe, is a reference to any guy that's gettin' him some, while they're not.
I think he was asking where the meme itself came from.
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Quote from: Huggs on Jun 09, 2018, 06:11:16 PM
Unless it's referring to the male virgin terror people, who have been in the news lately. Chad for them I believe, is a reference to any guy that's gettin' him some, while they're not.
I think he was asking where the meme itself came from.
I'm aware. Just a healthy dose of sarcasm and geography. I mean, would it be such a bad thing if we named it after alpha males that are turning virgins into terrorists? I rather like the name Chadwick, to be honest. It's strong, yet, cuddly.
NECA is gonna have a field day with this figure.
Better than the first trailer. I have some hope.
A much better teaser. You can see the carnage and action we're going to get. A shame they showed the Upgrade though. Would've liked to see that in the film. Real excited now though, looks fun.
TV spot was so much better. Better edited, it's quick but they did a good job giving a more exciting feeling.
The new trailer is good but it's more action driven kinda to makeup for the less action in the previous one. I personally would have preferred more suspense less action for the build up Predator was all about suspense you didnt know what was going to happen next. The upgrade Predator I feel should not have been shown in the trailer maybe he will bring further surprises in the movie who knows. Now for the icing on the cake I just hope Henry Jackman does justice to the music score, bring on that pounding music from the first 2 movies and all of us will be happy :)
Still think that captured predator design is total shit. Face looks halfway decent. Sterling Brown's line about one by one to close to Arnold's statement he's killing us one at a time. I actually like the upgrade design. But the entire plot just seems too cheesy for a predator movie. Would have loved to see what Predators would have been on this budget. But I guess I'm stuck with autism saves the day
So Chad is a meme. I was worried that it was an official name.
doesn't look any better. still not even considering this as a Poundland purchase.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 09, 2018, 06:33:38 PM
I'm aware. Just a healthy dose of sarcasm and geography. I mean, would it be such a bad thing if we named it after alpha males that are turning virgins into terrorists? I rather like the name Chadwick, to be honest. It's strong, yet, cuddly.
I was just trying to be the straight man in this scene.
What is my motivation in this scene again?
Ah man I take it back, Chad is that perfect name for Upgrade. Hey what was the Predalien's name from AVP Requiem again? Chet? Yea, Chad's perfect.
#ChadIsRad
just by the look of that head size in comparison to his body, it looks off. Like they messed up on proportions.
Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jun 09, 2018, 07:19:14 PM
Still think that captured predator design is total shit. Face looks halfway decent. Sterling Brown's line about one by one to close to Arnold's statement he's killing us one at a time. I actually like the upgrade design. But the entire plot just seems too cheesy for a predator movie. Would have loved to see what Predators would have been on this budget. But I guess I'm stuck with autism saves the day
I'm fine with that design. For me it looks better than all 3 predators in the first avp and it also looks better than the super predator design that we saw in predators 2010
Honestly I'm truly excited about The Predator now , the trailer was spot on in my opinion , short snappy and to the point, I like the tone and direction it's taking , and the upgrade was nowhere near as bad as I feared. Also the open mandible predator looked bang on the money , I think this film is going to be a blast for the predator community. ;D
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 09, 2018, 07:30:51 PM
What is my motivation in this scene again?
You're fiancée just left you at the alter for a guy who sells used thermostats for a living. Love is cruel, the world is a cesspit, and you're going to take his temperature the old fashioned way. So help you God, and Budweiser. At least that's what the script calls for.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jun 09, 2018, 07:50:08 PM
#ChadIsRad
That's #BigChadIsRad :D
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NIIIIIICE! But why it's not online officialy? :-[
I've asked the question of Fox. We'll see. Now to watch this myself. Seems like a nice thing to wake up to!
This would be a big ol' no. The uploads we're getting are the best we're gonna get of this. Fox wont be uploaded this as it was an event exclusive spot.
Also merged a few existing threads and split off discussion from the teaser thread into this new NBA Final Spot thread.
It looks like f**king shit, is this the best they could do? We havent got a decent movie since P2, why they dont try to make a good movie? So far i see nothing that tells me to watch it in theaters. Well, i was not optimist anyway.
Quote from: Upgradesucks! on Jun 09, 2018, 04:40:36 PM
OBJECTIVELY Shane Black is a hacky tv director who never moved past his tv comfort zone
You know that objectively, Shane Black has never actually written or directed for TV in his entire career, right? And that he was objectively one of the biggest screenwriters of the '80s and '90s and is now a living legend? Objectively?
Just saying.
Sshhhh now. Stop trying to be reasonable. :P
So that was a much better trailer - technically a TV spot according to Fox. I reckon they probably got that out there to counter the negative response from the first trailer. Loving the short bits of chemestry we saw. I think the Predator designs look pretty good so far.
Kinda disappointed they showed Upgrade this early on but I'm digging him. Glad they didn't go crazy with his design. I'm getting a City Hunter vibe from him actually. Also liking the red of his skin. Reminds me of some fanart I once saw.
Have to say I'm more excited about the human cast rather than the Predators themselves. The trailer was a massive improvement to the teaser, but the lack of jungle/tribal vibe still has me disappointed. The Chad also reminds me of a gym bro - not feeling that design! But the Captured looks rad. I'm thinking it could be female.
Quote from: D88M on Jun 09, 2018, 08:39:24 PM
It looks like f**king shit, is this the best they could do? We havent got a decent movie since P2, why they dont try to make a good movie? So far i see nothing that tells me to watch it in theaters. Well, i was not optimist anyway.
As much as I like Predator 2 it's not universally liked. The first Predator is the only movie this franchise needs, every part of the ingredients to that movie was the right place right time. The movie is a perfect mix of everything; director, story, actors, Stan Winston, KPH...
I don't think it's a female. I just think it looks like a total bitch when it's next to
Brad, Chad.
Someone, in the movie, needs to channel that mall cop from Commando.
"...He's one gigantic mother f**ker!"
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 09, 2018, 08:54:52 PM
Sshhhh now. Stop trying to be reasonable. :P
THIS IS NO TIME FOR RATIONAL THOUGHT, HICKS!
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 09, 2018, 08:13:23 PM
You're fiancée just left you at the alter for a guy who sells used thermostats for a living. Love is cruel, the world is a cesspit, and you're going to take his temperature the old fashioned way. So help you God, and Budweiser. At least that's what the script calls for.
Okay, let me do my process...
P2 pulled much of the same trick both AvP-R and The Predator seem to be trying: placing the threat in a more familiar setting.
P2 although was largely based on scenes from the Predatoe comic book series, some scenes almost being 1:1.
I would have prefered a more intimate story with more suspense, but at the same time I hope this opens up the franchise for more different kind of Predator films.
I liked this second trailer far, far better than the previous pne, but really don't like how they ruined the only twist they had.
I've proudly disliked P2 since its release. It's such a cheesefest and was instantly dated. Cartoonish Jamaican druglords in a post-apocalyptic LA of... 1997. That was such a hackneyed cliche at the time, the conceit that in just a few years the world was going to turn into dystopia. Everything about the film is ridiculous.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Jun 09, 2018, 09:38:31 PM
It's such a cheesefest and was instantly dated. Cartoonish Jamaican druglords in a post-apocalyptic LA of... 1997. That was such a hackneyed cliche at the time, the conceit that in just a few years the world was going to turn into dystopia. Everything about the film is ridiculous.
And that's why it's great, it's pure fun nonsense.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Jun 09, 2018, 09:38:31 PM
I've proudly disliked P2 since its release. It's such a cheesefest and was instantly dated. Cartoonish Jamaican druglords in a post-apocalyptic LA of... 1997. That was such a hackneyed cliche at the time, the conceit that in just a few years the world was going to turn into dystopia. Everything about the film is ridiculous.
A couple years ago I actually made a cut of the movie that toned down a bunch of the sillier stuff and followed in the footsteps of the first film.
Make it like a real cop drama. Contemporary LA, drug trafficking... All that can stay. Just tone it down and make it more true to the real life situation.... And don't show off the Predator so soon. That's Predator 2's big problem I think. They literally show the Predator right off the bat. No build up, no anticipation, just BOOM. Predator vision, cloaked Predator running around, Predator slaughtering the Jamacins and revealing itself pretty early on. And what are we cutting back to? Characters that are completely clueless. Outside of Keyes, and Harrigan who tries to actually do some police work, everyone else just seems to stumble from scene to scene going "HUH!?" "WHAT?!"
Now, you look at Predator and it is basically an 80s military action movie at the start. Aside of that opening shot of the scout ship we don't get any indication of the Predator's presence until 15 minutes in... It's the faint sound of it's tusks clicking, the skinned bodies of Hopper and his team. Then we start seeing it's heat vision, and it isn't until over 30 minutes in that we see the Predator's hand in it's own vision. We're over 40 minutes in when Hawkin's bites it, and we're fast approaching the hour mark when Jungle Hunter is actually seen, even then it's restrained to close ups on his injury, hands, and equipment. The timing of that reveal coincides with the fact that we are now aware that this is an extraterrestrial and it is a life form (it bleeds). We're being shown that this isn't just a beast, but a character in the story.
This movie is really warming up on me. After so many bad predator related movies, i am willing to accept something this wacky so long as its executed well and entertaining. Upgrade looks pretty cool and way better designed than what we got in predators (2010)
Meh, don't like the look of the Upgrade Predator. Looks awful.
so why is the upgrade fighting the other predators?
Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 09, 2018, 11:54:18 PM
so why is the upgrade fighting the other predators?
Because Chad is known as Bad Chad. He's a bad dude.
Spoiler
There's some kind of a battle going on between different Predators. The DNA augmentation thing is at the center of it all. Basically he juices too much and the other Predators don't like it.
When I see the Upgrade standing over the captured predator it makes me think of this shot in
This is the End.
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/zbwfJMj.jpg)
;D
Quote from: The Old One on Jun 09, 2018, 09:57:14 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Jun 09, 2018, 09:38:31 PM
It's such a cheesefest and was instantly dated. Cartoonish Jamaican druglords in a post-apocalyptic LA of... 1997. That was such a hackneyed cliche at the time, the conceit that in just a few years the world was going to turn into dystopia. Everything about the film is ridiculous.
And that's why it's great, it's pure fun nonsense.
Sure, it can be a hoot. I just think it's such a vast step down in quality from the original. At best it's a fun bad movie.
Why does this feel so cheap? I'm thinking back to Shane Black saying "we won't do this unless it's a big 100 million dollar movie" ..if it cost that much it must have gone on the catering or something.
Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 09, 2018, 10:46:15 PM
This movie is really warming up on me. After so many bad predator related movies, i am willing to accept something this wacky so long as its executed well and entertaining. Upgrade looks pretty cool and way better designed than what we got in predators (2010)
Yeah, not going to lie the rumours, coupled with the synopsis and the first trailer had this one down as a complete turd. It's amazing what a good teaser can do though, the tone looks right and the actors look spot on. Interesting we've not seen much of Thomas Jane though.
Totally changed my mind on it.
Based on the earlier draft (which this still seems to follow pretty closely), it's definitely a very funny movie that tonally goes a lot of places and in different directions. It's also super violent and full of action.
I'm a bit more of a fan of Shane Black and Fred Dekker's work than the Predator franchise - though I love the original film a lot - so I really don't have any issue with those guys' idiosyncrasies in a Predator film. But many people will. It's not gonna be for everyone. As I said a year or so ago, some people will despise it. Some will love it. It will be an Iron Man 3-type reaction. But I'm all for that. It beats a safe movie, which this definitely is not.
Spoiler
I'm even disappointed Rory apparently isn't going to fly the ship anymore. ;)
Judging by the new trailer and the first one, seems all the leaks are true, which points to the movie being complete trash.
Why can't we just have ONE predator movie that actually revolves around, you know, having the pedator do predator stuff? None of these stupid "enemy of my enemy" gimmicks. Oh and to top it all off the jurassic world stupid ass idea of a superior bio-engineered predator. It's the god damned super T-Rex all over again
What does Trevante Rhodes say after "It's the looney bus..." and before "why are you here?"
I can't make out that middle part.
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 10, 2018, 01:44:17 AM
What does Trevante Rhodes say after "It's the looney bus..." and before "why are you here?"
I can't make out that middle part.
Its the loonie bus, we told you.
Or we chosen
Why do I get the feeling that some people will just hate on something for just about anything? No matter what the film tries to do ? If it's too like the original it's " they just rehashed the first one " and if they try something new and different it's " it's not like the original " honestly it's like the directors are doomed these days from the off when it comes to franchises, if I was a director I would never touch a franchise , not even my beloved predator , what's the point when you become public enemy number one ? It happened to Lucas , and I fear it's going to happen to Shane black. ::)
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Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 10, 2018, 01:44:17 AM
What does Trevante Rhodes say after "It's the looney bus..." and before "why are you here?"
I can't make out that middle part.
Its the loonie bus, we told you.
Or we chosen
Thanks! At first I thought he said "what'd y'all do?" But that's repetitive with the next line. Just needed another ear to hear it 👍
It's just dawned on me the upgrade look heavily inspired by the play arts predator variant figure, take a look and tell me what you think ? Even the gauntlets look the same !
http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/iosv_predator_play_arts_kai_variant.jpg
"More Yautja thannn Yauuutttjaaa" (White Zombie song that will now be in your head every time you see new trailer)
Yes I KNOW technically LESS if a hybrid, jeez way to punch a hole in my joke...
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 01:55:53 AM
Why do I get the feeling that some people will just hate on something for just about anything? No matter what the film tries to do ? If it's too like the original it's " they just rehashed the first one " and if they try something new and different it's " it's not like the original " honestly it's like the directors are doomed these days from the off when it comes to franchises, if I was a director I would never touch a franchise , not even my beloved predator , what's the point when you become public enemy number one ? It happened to Lucas , and I fear it's going to happen to Shane black. ::)
i share this sentiment. It seems like such a huge risk that I would be very hesitant to try directing a movie like that. Some people will never be pleased.
Just saw the trailer and I gotta say I liked it. I love the idea of a predator not just having to worry about the humans, but also another predator hunting him. I'm still not getting my hopes up because of being burned with the recent Alien films, but hopefully this movie will bring some life back into the franchise.
Oh look ADI still can't make mandibles move properly.
Quote from: SiL on Jun 10, 2018, 03:32:28 AM
Oh look ADI still can't make mandibles move properly.
I think it's a re-use. I'm also not sure if the lightning makes it look worse, but yeah, it's probably one of the better efforts, although I'm interested to see what they do with the big one.
This movie will make AVP look like a masterpiece.
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Quote from: SiL on Jun 10, 2018, 03:32:28 AM
Oh look ADI still can't make mandibles move properly.
I think it's a re-use. I'm also not sure if the lightning makes it look worse, but yeah, it's probably one of the better efforts, although I'm interested to see what they do with the big one.
Reuse of which? I hated the mandibles and inner mouth of KNB's classic. I hope the inner mouth in this one CLOSES or I will just lose my mind over it lol
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Jun 09, 2018, 09:38:31 PM
I've proudly disliked P2 since its release. It's such a cheesefest and was instantly dated. Cartoonish Jamaican druglords in a post-apocalyptic LA of... 1997. That was such a hackneyed cliche at the time, the conceit that in just a few years the world was going to turn into dystopia. Everything about the film is ridiculous.
The 1997 of
Predator 2 is neither post-apocalyptic or dystopian. They just played up the direction they figured everything was going, that things would be a little dirtier, a little more dangerous, and that gangs would be running riot. Cheesefest and cartoonish Jamaicans I'll give you though. ;)
I liked the brief preview because it makes the movie seem like the bad blood comic. Shot by shot we got upgrade/enforcer versus hybrid/bad blood. My neca figure couple will have company.
Anyone else looking at the hybrid and thinking Kratos predator because of the red?
Totally true...but at the very least, more people seem to have warmed up to the movie after this TV spot/tease/trailer, so there's that.
A much better trailer!
The more I see and here, the more excited I get.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 01:55:53 AM
Why do I get the feeling that some people will just hate on something for just about anything? No matter what the film tries to do ? If it's too like the original it's " they just rehashed the first one " and if they try something new and different it's " it's not like the original " honestly it's like the directors are doomed these days from the off when it comes to franchises, if I was a director I would never touch a franchise , not even my beloved predator , what's the point when you become public enemy number one ? It happened to Lucas , and I fear it's going to happen to Shane black. ::)
I would agree with you, if they hadn't resorted to hybrids.
Did anyone check out the play arts variant figure, I posted ? The upgrade looks very similar to it imo .
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 09:49:48 AM
Did anyone check out the play arts variant figure, I posted ? The upgrade looks very similar to it imo .
I don't even have to click it to know which one you mean, it's that similar. Not my kind of predator.
I dont think its a Hybrid
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Finally, the trailer itself learn how to show some balls. This is much, much better trailer. But the upgrade dont need to be shown so early.
So about the complaints regarding the mandibles, if you pause it at the right spot you will see that the bottom mandibles damn near close together. And yes I agree (in this particular scene) doesn't "appear" the mouth and mandibles have a lot of articulation. But if you remember the black and white photo of the captured that released some time ago showed the mouth wide open. So there is going to be some serious articulation there, and the mouth will close similarly to the original. Before I get blasted, I am NOT comparing to the original, just saying that this is going to be the best illustration and the closest ADI predator face we've gotten so far. Give it a chance, you are going to be surprised. Also at the end of the trailer (don't know if anyone pointed this out yet) but between the captured pred's head softly jerking and the upgrade's mandibles chattering, it appears as if they are having a conversation. Interesting.
All this talk about mandibles makes me want a mess of chicken fries.......with bbq sauce.....yea...
They look better for sure, just not on the money. His eyes are also the wrong colour ( but aight, they can have different eyes).
As for the movement they sort of quiver, which looks off, but again that could be the lighting.
Also can we please use the damn iconic predator roar. PLEASE.
@skull splitter , yeah I know what you mean bud , but it's clear as day that they based the design around that figure , which is pretty lame imo , but what ever I can live with it , it's not as bad as I feared , and it ain't the end of the world. I do think the cgi used on the upgrade looks very district 9 looking and needs cleaning up a bit. Maybe that's just me though , my best part of the trailer has got to be the captured predator barging through the wall , that looked totally legit and powerful. I also think it's curious that there's no sign of the friendly predators in either trailer , could it be that they decided to cut it from the film ? Or are they trying to hide that element from marketing , because they don't want the inevitable fan backlash ? As for the kid not being in the trailer , I don't know why fox are trying to now hide him, does everyone forget how well newt was in aliens ? ;D
As someone who has not had one good thing to say about the film so far and remains skeptical, I think that trailer was pretty good and a lot better than anything shown so far. At the very least Boyd Holbrook comes across as a good lead and the Predator always needs a worthy human foe. The whole hybrid/Indominous Predator well it's a novel idea by the standards of the universe at least, I think now I'll give it a go and hope it's good.
I mean really I shouldn't be so judgemental about it. I enjoyed Predator 2 for it's occasional goofiness and I liked Predators a lot too. Just don't be shit and I'll be fine. Alien Covenant was crap and I felt it sitting in the theatre, if this movie doesn't give me that feeling, it's done its job.
Fans criticized Predator 2 for not being like Predator 1. People said that Predator doesn't works in a city settings or hunting cartels and cops. Predators was criticized for not being original and too much like Predator 1. Fans just can't seem to find a middle ground. This new one feels like mash up of all three Predator movies.
Also I don't see why people acting like a Hybrid Predator ruined everything. Don't Predators come from huge planet of thousands of different cultures and societies and tribes or something? why do all predators have to be identical?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 09, 2018, 02:12:57 PM
Funny how they completely cut out the kid in this trailer :laugh:
Also we can see Holbrook with a predator wrist gauntlet on his arm at 0:45
And at 0:34 it looks like dual wrist blades, not single... I don't understand anymore lol.
you made methinking and I checked the pic when the pred shoots the wristblade at sg.
it seems to me that it's not in the middle of the gauntlet like in predators, so I assume the first was shot at sg. before. So I guess this one has double wb, not just one.
I think btw the design is good. I mean overall design. The mask is a bit too fancy, not tribal enough for me, but the whole is nice. I miss the trophies on the body, but to be frank, what in the first movie was so appealing for me the mixture of opposite feelings the environment and the creature created.
Like there was the tribal feeling but also the whole creature wore some type of metal armour and mask and backpack which was totally not fit for the jungle, yet the movie could make one believe it belongs there. For me it was the acting most of all that pulled it off. The gestures and body language. Not the (actually best of all time-for me) suit and looks of the creature.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 02:16:30 AM
It's just dawned on me the upgrade look heavily inspired by the play arts predator variant figure, take a look and tell me what you think ? Even the gauntlets look the same !
http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/iosv_predator_play_arts_kai_variant.jpg
Almost identical!
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@ The Wolverine Predator .. I know right , pretty mad that ain't it ? When I seen it in the trailer I was like "I'm sure iv seen that design before!" Then I realised it was this guy. So we have had the upgrade design under our noses the whole time and never realised it.. ;D
"Fans criticized Predator 2 for not being like Predator 1. People said that Predator doesn't works in a city settings or hunting cartels and cops."
Who said that? They must be retarded, because bringing the hunt to the city is the most logical step to make and exchanging jarheads for criminals make sense too. The predator just wants to hurt t dangerous quarry. Doesn't care about the setting of the preys moral compass
"Alien Covenant was crap and I felt it sitting in the theatre, if this movie doesn't give me that feeling, it's done its job"
There was nothing wrong with Alien Covenant, you are just mad it's wasn't the bumkamp fan service crapfest he was trying to pull off. Im glad it's not happening cause that's where the real crap is.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 01:23:08 PM
@ The Wolverine Predator .. I know right , pretty mad that ain't it ? When I seen it in the trailer I was like "I'm sure iv seen that design before!" Then I realised it was this guy. So we have had the upgrade design under our noses the whole time and never realised it.. ;D
yeah it looks just like it minus all the armour, I just love how he pulled the predator right through the window, pretty badass IMO
I dont know if I am slightly dissapointed or not with the fact that I expected the Hybrid Predator will look more unique. I mean, he is just a bigger Predator, so far without any details of his face-head-body itself, it really looks just like a regular Predator, but only much bigger and stronger. As I said, Im not entirely dissapointed, at this point Im more than glad that this trailer is just much better than the one before, but still. . if "they" using the DNA of other species, shouldnt they just look different? In fact, its strange that using DNA made you only stronger and bigger, I think that it should change also the whole look of Predators (Berserker reference). Yes, if they decided to made Hybrid different enough, there will be still some sort of risk with it, the different design for him could ended up being really bad, so I will rather see standart face design instead of totally new and bad one. I hope that CGI of this Hybrid will be convincing as much as it could, this will (for the first time) be the first digital Predator on our screens. I hope that Hybrid will kill a lot of people in the film and in the end die by the hand of classic Predator or something, I still demand a proper revenge since the fight between Berserker and classic in previous film. Oh and gore, we need to see a lot of violent moments.
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Yes it's a highlight for me too, badass stance at the end ! And badass stance for the captured pred too when he holds Nettles by the hair ! For me it was kinda reminiscent to some stances the city hunter had in P2, really cool.
Yeah I'm wondering how Nettles gets out of that situation! lol Definitely reminiscent of City Hunter's stance.
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jun 09, 2018, 02:29:49 PM
I love all of Boyd's lines so far too, the highlight was The Upgrade grabbing the Captured Predator through the window!
I like the attitude Boyd's bringing to his character, at least based on the few lines he's delivered in the trailers. I'm looking forward to seeing more.
This scene with Nettles doesn't exist at all in the script, which is really cool, knowing that they add a lot more (the captured pred slammed on a car wasn't either) than what was intended to be in the first draft is great ! I can't wait !
I think we're gonna be pleased with this movie, considering the blacklash of the leaked script
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To my surprise, I actually think it looks like alot of fun!
I dont understand why that Predator grab that human with red jacket up so high, wtf? That is wrong, just look at that picture here and tell me that its okey, he cant have such a long arm. Judging by the picture, it looks like he grab him by his clothes, not by his neck or hairs. It looks just weird. . that human should be a little bit lower, well only if this Predator doesnt have one arm longer. Judging by proportions it really doesnt fit, I feel it. :-
At 0:40 at the bottom right of the screen, it seems like there is some predator blood on the floor...
This looks more like AVP3 than a Predator movie...only its just Predator vs Predator. But the style and quality are on par with AVP...which in my opinion, is a bad thing. Its missing the grit from the first 2 movies.
Quote from: Predalien39 on Jun 10, 2018, 05:26:47 PM
This looks more like AVP3 than a Predator movie...only its just Predator vs Predator. But the style and quality are on par with AVP...which in my opinion, is a bad thing. Its missing the grit from the first 2 movies.
agreed... I'll watch it but not enjoy it like those first 2... they had this rawness and tribal ish feel... toying with the sweaty humans, the cloacked predators, the pov, drumming music etc...
Upgrade looks f**king badass. I was a tiny bit afraid that he would be too filled with unnecessary shit, but they kept him a simple, gigantic, savage Predator. I love that. I expect to see more cool details once we get a better look. This trailer was way better than the other, even if shorter.
I'm really intrigued by that shot of Casey seemingly naked in some sort of chamber.
Quote from: Danversity on Jun 10, 2018, 05:54:52 PM
Upgrade looks f**king badass. I was a tiny bit afraid that he would be too filled with unnecessary shit, but they kept him a simple, gigantic, savage Predator. I love that. I expect to see more cool details once we get a better look. This trailer was way better than the other, even if shorter.
I'm really intrigued by that shot of Casey seemingly naked in some sort of chamber.
I agree. They did basically did what they should have done with Supers. It actually looks like a wild, savage, Predator.
The descriptions in the script were all kinds of awful.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 10, 2018, 06:20:36 PM
The descriptions in the script were all kinds of awful.
I haven't read the leak so could you enlighten me?
I agree, I'm really liking the direction of the upgrade design. I think the spider predator concepts had me envisioning them going with a taller and linky design for the actual upgrade. Something menacing looking but also sickly in appearance because he took the DNA splicing too far.
The actual design seems very badass though. Who's to say that they can't get that large on their own without the whole DNA nonsense? Maybe they'll hone in more on the internal affects the splicing has which could make it all feel a little less out there.
I was also wondering the same thing about the shot of Casey. Was she in the shower? Looks like the plasma laser goes over her face.
Quote from: The Old One on Jun 10, 2018, 06:26:25 PM
I haven't read the leak so could you enlighten me?
Well, pretty much everything that was in the leaked outline was what was in the script, but that was plenty...
Basically; Ten feet tall, human eyes, smaller mandibles, "his skin IS HIS armor(OMG)."
Honestly it pretty much made it sound like the Predator equivalent to
The Newborn. He didn't even feel like a Predator whenever he showed up in the script. Even the Bad Blood or the Super Predators felt like Predators in their respective appearances.
So at least visually he feels like what the concept is trying to convey and still remains truthful to the Predator look. That, i'm happy about.
Spoiler
Something that gave me flashbacks to the Salerno AVP:R script, he lifts Captured over his head(wrestler style) and literally rips him in half.
And in terms of screen writing he basically just walks through the other two Predators. They don't put up a fight. Nothing. They're just gone. Boom. Literally five minutes after they are introduced to the characters in this scene which is goosed up big time. It feels like it's supposed to be this bad ass introduction to the Loonies help, but instead they just get ganked.
Which, again, just like with Predators, or Jurassic Park 3, you don't murder Coke Classic like that. Also, those two Predators just didn't feel like Predators to me. They have their little translator matrix thing and one of them basically says "We're screwed." Which didn't feel like something a Predator would say at all.
There's a reason the audience I was with for the first Jurassic World was f**king ROARING with cheers when the ol' girl showed up and started f**king up indominous's shit. That's what we want to see. ... Granted, I wasn't big on the raptor and Rex giving each other high fives, but... That reveal was brilliant and that entire battle was intense.
The weird thing about the reference to the mandibles is it basically says it's owed to the DNA meddling... Yet the SOB is ten feet tall. I mean, correct me if i'm wrong but as a matter of course Predators are bigger, faster, stronger, and physically more durable than humans as a general rule... So how did human DNA make Script Chad biggererrer and baddererer...
I mean, it seems like they've altered the script a little bit so it's more akin to these particular kind of Predators that are partaking in this DNA stuff are juicing everywhere they go, which is causing them to become freakishly sized and such... But they really shouldn't benefit from us in anyway.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 10, 2018, 06:35:21 PM
- snip - the spider predator concepts - snip -
Well see i'm still worried about that whole scenario in general.
Spoiler
We have yet to see any indication of the Predator dogs, or the half-breed mutations that Upgrade let's loose.... And I really really really hope they got rid of them entirely because they read absolutely awfully. I like the idea of the Predator hounds because they absolutely fit the hunter tone of the Predator mythos... Spider predators, and multi-limbed predators and... yech. No.
They could create some new creature entirely that is the result of Predators messing with gene splicing... Or what a great way to reuse the old side ways mandible Predator creatures and have them release half breed orc-Predators that make for a good cannon fodder thing, but... SPIDERS?
By the way if you're reading this and have not been one of the few to read the script, that's not an exaggeration. They're called spiders in the script. All I can imagine is Anytime's head on spider legs. Reads awful.
You know I was really hoping the leaks wouldn't turn out true, but here we are with a rehash of the Predators side-plot with super predator.
It was bad enough that the first trailer made it seem like the kid was going to play a big part in the story, now we also come to the reveal of the super predator being the actual big bad and the classic predator being, once again, just fodder to show off how cool and badass the new predator is.
It's been almost 30 years since we last had a Preadtor be the actual antagonist of his own movie. Ever since then we've had this stupid rehash of "predators are there doing their thing but a bigger bad comes along so now predator must join forces with the humans to take down this baddie"
You know what the worst part is? AvP:R was the last time we saw classic predator actually accomplish something by himself by taking on the predalien. Imagine if in Jurassic World the classic T-Rex had just been stomped on by the I-Rex within 5 seconds of appearing on screen
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Quote from: The Old One on Jun 10, 2018, 06:26:25 PM
I haven't read the leak so could you enlighten me?
Well, pretty much everything that was in the leaked outline was what was in the script, but that was plenty...
Basically; Ten feet tall, human eyes, smaller mandibles, "his skin IS HIS armor(OMG)."
Honestly it pretty much made it sound like the Predator equivalent to The Newborn. He didn't even feel like a Predator whenever he showed up in the script. Even the Bad Blood or the Super Predators felt like Predators in their respective appearances.
So at least visually he feels like what the concept is trying to convey and still remains truthful to the Predator look. That, i'm happy about.
Spoiler
Something that gave me flashbacks to the Salerno AVP:R script, he lifts Captured over his head(wrestler style) and literally rips him in half.
And in terms of screen writing he basically just walks through the other two Predators. They don't put up a fight. Nothing. They're just gone. Boom. Literally five minutes after they are introduced to the characters in this scene which is goosed up big time. It feels like it's supposed to be this bad ass introduction to the Loonies help, but instead they just get ganked.
Which, again, just like with Predators, or Jurassic Park 3, you don't murder Coke Classic like that. Also, those two Predators just didn't feel like Predators to me. They have their little translator matrix thing and one of them basically says "We're screwed." Which didn't feel like something a Predator would say at all.
There's a reason the audience I was with for the first Jurassic World was f**king ROARING with cheers when the ol' girl showed up and started f**king up indominous's shit. That's what we want to see. ... Granted, I wasn't big on the raptor and Rex giving each other high fives, but... That reveal was brilliant and that entire battle was intense.
The weird thing about the reference to the mandibles is it basically says it's owed to the DNA meddling... Yet the SOB is ten feet tall. I mean, correct me if i'm wrong but as a matter of course Predators are bigger, faster, stronger, and physically more durable than humans as a general rule... So how did human DNA make Script Chad biggererrer and baddererer...
I mean, it seems like they've altered the script a little bit so it's more akin to these particular kind of Predators that are partaking in this DNA stuff are juicing everywhere they go, which is causing them to become freakishly sized and such... But they really shouldn't benefit from us in anyway.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 10, 2018, 06:35:21 PM
- snip - the spider predator concepts - snip -
Well see i'm still worried about that whole scenario in general.
Spoiler
We have yet to see any indication of the Predator dogs, or the half-breed mutations that Upgrade let's loose.... And I really really really hope they got rid of them entirely because they read absolutely awfully. I like the idea of the Predator hounds because they absolutely fit the hunter tone of the Predator mythos... Spider predators, and multi-limbed predators and... yech. No.
They could create some new creature entirely that is the result of Predators messing with gene splicing... Or what a great way to reuse the old side ways mandible Predator creatures and have them release half breed orc-Predators that make for a good cannon fodder thing, but... SPIDERS?
By the way if you're reading this and have not been one of the few to read the script, that's not an exaggeration. They're called spiders in the script. All I can imagine is Anytime's head on spider legs. Reads awful.
Spoiler
Yeaaaah that sounds awful if that is the actual look of the "spiders", which is exactly what I was worried about. I'm ok with the hounds being featured again though. Let's hope they go with a decent design with them as well.
But as for how quickly the Upgrade plows through the classics, this is extremely disappointing to hear. Really hope they've added more in for at least the captured predator against the Upgrade. Please don't tell me captured is killed off right after getting smashed into the car!
Just once I would like for the actual Predator to survive at the end of the movie, I hope that is one of the things that changes in the third act but I doubt it at this point.
Quote from: PredonMe on Jun 10, 2018, 07:38:21 PM
You know what the worst part is? AvP:R was the last time we saw classic predator actually accomplish something by himself by taking on the predalien. Imagine if in Jurassic World the classic T-Rex had just been stomped on by the I-Rex within 5 seconds of appearing on screen
You mean like JP3? And then they tried to fix it with the forced, eye-roll inducing Rex appearance at the end of JW? Yeah, let's not give us what we think we "want". Give us surprises, take risks, give us new. DON'T listen to the fans, we aren't right. I'm dead serious here. I wish fandoms would try new things. I completely understand not wanting too much of what we love changed, nerfed, or misrepresented. But Predator has so many possibilities with it's universe and character, but we keep getting fed the predictable, because its what they think the fans want. I am very excited for this film, and I hope it pushes for new, and not what we want.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who cringed at that little "treat" in Jurassic world.
Quote from: bobby brown on Jun 10, 2018, 08:17:04 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who cringed at that little "treat" in Jurassic world.
The whole battle was a cringe for me. Way, way too forced. I wouldn't have been surprised if the raptor and rex had a make out session and a high five after the battle.
Why are people so fixated with the kid? Has everyone lost their minds and forgotten how good newt was in aliens ?
Also the upgrade injects DNA from all manner of alien species, who's to say the aliens he was hunting were not bigger than he was ? Predator 2 clearly shown in the trophy room that they were hunting things far more larger than they were.
Also I can see from the comment below that apparently it's just a rehash of predators ? Like wtf iv read the script and still have it and it is nothing like predators , sure it's taken a few elements from it , but it has from all of the films , the whole point to this film was to branch the universe out and make it richer and worthy of follow ups and to make it more cohesive, I'm sorry but the ten little Indians concept gets old fast , something had to change , personally I'm glad black took risks and injected new material into the franchise , and judging by the trailer I think this is shaping up to be blast. It could even potentially outshine predator 2 , and considering that's my favourite in the series , I'm incredibly excited by what was shown in the trailer yesterday. It just feels right to me. The predators look cool, the balance was there , the tone felt right and the action looks badass. All the core ingredients for a decent predator film imo.
Well as cheesy as it was I loved the t-rex coming out on top in the Jurassic World battle and even loved the team up between the t-rex and the raptor (granted JW2 seems to take things even farther to the point where I think I'll just wait for the dvd).
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If the captured predator were the one to actually come out on top that would be something new and unexpected. Seriously if human characters can actually find a way to defeat the Upgrade then why the hell can't an actual Predator do the same? Have it so that the humans think the captured predator is dead but, just before the credits roll, have the camera follow a trail of green blood to the captured predator and then cut to the credits
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Quote from: The Old One on Jun 10, 2018, 06:26:25 PM
I haven't read the leak so could you enlighten me?
Well, pretty much everything that was in the leaked outline was what was in the script, but that was plenty...
Basically; Ten feet tall, human eyes, smaller mandibles, "his skin IS HIS armor(OMG)."
Honestly it pretty much made it sound like the Predator equivalent to The Newborn. He didn't even feel like a Predator whenever he showed up in the script. Even the Bad Blood or the Super Predators felt like Predators in their respective appearances.
So at least visually he feels like what the concept is trying to convey and still remains truthful to the Predator look. That, i'm happy about.
Spoiler
Something that gave me flashbacks to the Salerno AVP:R script, he lifts Captured over his head(wrestler style) and literally rips him in half.
And in terms of screen writing he basically just walks through the other two Predators. They don't put up a fight. Nothing. They're just gone. Boom. Literally five minutes after they are introduced to the characters in this scene which is goosed up big time. It feels like it's supposed to be this bad ass introduction to the Loonies help, but instead they just get ganked.
Which, again, just like with Predators, or Jurassic Park 3, you don't murder Coke Classic like that. Also, those two Predators just didn't feel like Predators to me. They have their little translator matrix thing and one of them basically says "We're screwed." Which didn't feel like something a Predator would say at all.
There's a reason the audience I was with for the first Jurassic World was f**king ROARING with cheers when the ol' girl showed up and started f**king up indominous's shit. That's what we want to see. ... Granted, I wasn't big on the raptor and Rex giving each other high fives, but... That reveal was brilliant and that entire battle was intense.
The weird thing about the reference to the mandibles is it basically says it's owed to the DNA meddling... Yet the SOB is ten feet tall. I mean, correct me if i'm wrong but as a matter of course Predators are bigger, faster, stronger, and physically more durable than humans as a general rule... So how did human DNA make Script Chad biggererrer and baddererer...
I mean, it seems like they've altered the script a little bit so it's more akin to these particular kind of Predators that are partaking in this DNA stuff are juicing everywhere they go, which is causing them to become freakishly sized and such... But they really shouldn't benefit from us in anyway.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 10, 2018, 06:35:21 PM
- snip - the spider predator concepts - snip -
Well see i'm still worried about that whole scenario in general.
Spoiler
We have yet to see any indication of the Predator dogs, or the half-breed mutations that Upgrade let's loose.... And I really really really hope they got rid of them entirely because they read absolutely awfully. I like the idea of the Predator hounds because they absolutely fit the hunter tone of the Predator mythos... Spider predators, and multi-limbed predators and... yech. No.
They could create some new creature entirely that is the result of Predators messing with gene splicing... Or what a great way to reuse the old side ways mandible Predator creatures and have them release half breed orc-Predators that make for a good cannon fodder thing, but... SPIDERS?
By the way if you're reading this and have not been one of the few to read the script, that's not an exaggeration. They're called spiders in the script. All I can imagine is Anytime's head on spider legs. Reads awful.
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Yeaaaah that sounds awful if that is the actual look of the "spiders", which is exactly what I was worried about. I'm ok with the hounds being featured again though. Let's hope they go with a decent design with them as well.
But as for how quickly the Upgrade plows through the classics, this is extremely disappointing to hear. Really hope they've added more in for at least the captured predator against the Upgrade. Please don't tell me captured is killed off right after getting smashed into the car!
Just once I would like for the actual Predator to survive at the end of the movie, I hope that is one of the things that changes in the third act but I doubt it at this point.
Actually there is no slamming on a car scene in the script at all, which means it has been modified, which is cool !
Yea, what happened to that kid? Maybe they cut him out of the entire flick.
Kid is a main hero and plot revolves around him.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 10, 2018, 08:32:22 PM
Yea, what happened to that kid? Maybe they cut him out of the entire flick.
He's to the right of Quinn when he says you want us, come get us
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Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 08:25:21 PM
Why are people so fixated with the kid? Has everyone lost their minds and forgotten how good newt was in aliens ?
Well, it's not the same thing. As I've said previously, Newt in Aliens is a child in an adult situation. She's treated as such. It's all the adults doing the heavy lifting. Yes, Newt helps Ripley find a way through the vent maze, but she's never
The Chosen One. She becomes Ripley's sole motivation to do what she's doing for the third act of the movie.
Let me put it to you this way.... Imagine Ripley is the one under the floor dodging the queen and Newt is the one driving the power loader.
That's the difference.
Spoiler
In the script. Upgrade see's Rory as the ultimate upgrade.
Not his dad. Not any of the loonies. None of the military guys he's faced.... Rory, and it's basically because of his Spectrum Super Powers.
This is why I say Rory would fit great in Stranger Things, because that's the kind of setup you expect from that show. A new kid who's autistic, but gifted, ends up saving the day. That does not sound like something fit for a Predator film at all. It's cutesy and a little too nice and wholesome.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 10, 2018, 08:32:22 PM
Yea, what happened to that kid? Maybe they cut him out of the entire flick.
That's... You'd basically have to make a different movie. The whole thing in the script is really about him.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 10, 2018, 08:30:57 PM
Actually there is no slamming on a car scene in the script at all, which means it has been modified, which is cool !
You're right. So at least it won't be the narrative equivalent of The Upgrade breathing on the OG styled Predator.
I still imagine it's going to be, basically, a curb stomp. The last shot we see in the sequence of events has Captured crouching before Upgrade. Very likely about to get his Predator sh*t pushed in for good.
So they basically put all the good parts in the trailer then. Oh well, maybe the kid is just dragged around for most of the movie.
Going back to upgrade, I really hoped he has a mask and some armor.
Openmaw what makes you think the kid in The Predator is not a kid in adult situations ? The power loader doesn't make much sense , I understand what you are trying to say but the kid got sent the alien technology, he didn't have a choice in the matter. He was put in a situation he didn't understand by the hands of adults around him , The adults in the The Predator are clearly protecting the kid and doing the heavy lifting, Olivia munn is shown protecting him. 🤔
That's a far superior trailer compared to the first, nice. I'm also surprised they showed the upgrade so early but I imagine it's to excite people who knew nothing about it and also calm a few fears from those who knew about it but thought it'd look too outlandish.
Two things I noticed: the boy is in this trailer, but only for a split second. He's on the left of the frame when Holbrook is looking up saying "then come get us" or whatever it was.
Also, weird detail. The Middle School sign behind the characters at the end says "Halloween Haunt 10/30 Welcome Parents & STDS" lol. Not sure why it caught my eye, but that had to be intentional.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 09:04:17 PM
Openmaw what makes you think the kid in The Predator is not a kid in adult situations ? The power loader doesn't make much sense , I understand what you are trying to say but the kid got sent the alien technology, he didn't have a choice in the matter. He was put in a situation he didn't understand by the hands of adults around him , The adults in the The Predator are clearly protecting the kid and doing the heavy lifting, Olivia munn is shown protecting him. [emoji848]
The only reason from what I read for Rory getting sent the package is because Quinn didn't pay his PO Box bill and it when to his last home address
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The Wolverine Predator ... exactly! He was put in that situation by an adult, it just so happens the kid is gifted. But it's not like he is picking up guns etc and becoming an action hero. The way openmaw is implying , so the Newt - Rory connection is very similar indeed, they were both put in adult situations out of their control by adults.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 09:04:17 PM
Openmaw what makes you think the kid in The Predator is not a kid in adult situations ? The power loader doesn't make much sense , I understand what you are trying to say but the kid got sent the alien technology, he didn't have a choice in the matter. He was put in a situation he didn't understand by the hands of adults around him , The adults in the The Predator are clearly protecting the kid and doing the heavy lifting, Olivia munn is shown protecting him. 🤔
No, you're right the power loader wouldn't make much sense.
That's how The Predator was originally scripted. The kid is a big deal. Like, he's pretty much the main character, big deal. He's certainly the most important character.
In the script:
Spoiler
Deciphers Predator language. Rain man style, this becomes a big deal going into the third act.
Makes use of a mask-mounted plasma cannon.
Flies Predator space craft with Casey in toe.
Is seen by Upgrade as the ultimate DNA catch.
He's probably the most proactive character in the story.
People liked Newt because she was cute and had spunk and mostly stayed out of the movies way. Ripley, Hicks, Burke, and Bishop moved the plot and story forward.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 09:28:12 PM
The way openmaw is implying
I'm not implying. I'm straight up saying. The kid is (or was) at the center of the whole scenario.
Quote from: Master on Jun 10, 2018, 08:59:33 PM
Going back to upgrade, I really hoped he has a mask and some armor.
He neither has a mask, nor armor.
He uses an ion canon and he has a kind of projectile arrow weapon.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 10, 2018, 06:35:21 PM
I was also wondering the same thing about the shot of Casey. Was she in the shower? Looks like the plasma laser goes over her face.
No plasma laser on her face.
It's the scene when she is in the decon chamber naked to sterilize herself...in order to get in/out to the room where the Captured is detained.
Openmaw the entire third act was reshot, isn't that telling you that things have changed since that script ? judging by the trailers Quinn is now the vocal point of the film, the way things have started to go , I'm not paying to much attention to the script , it's super old now and frankly barring the premise I don't really expect the film to resemble the script that much , sure certain events might still be there , but overall the feel of the trailer has clearly shown the tone has shifted since the days of the old script.
I still think it's strange that they would show the upgrade before the friendly predators , barring the APC scene there's no sign of them at all , I'm wondering did fox decide to drop them from the film, and just use the APC scene for promotional value , and it won't actually be in the film ?
This movie looks damn good!
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 09:38:26 PM
Openmaw the entire third act was reshot, isn't that telling you that things have changed since that script ? judging by the trailers Quinn is now the vocal point of the film, the way things have started to go , I'm not paying to much attention to the script , it's super old now and frankly barring the premise I don't really expect the film to resemble the script that much , sure certain events might still be there , but overall the feel of the trailer has clearly shown the tone has shifted since the days of the old script.
I still think it's strange that they would show the upgrade before the friendly predators , barring the APC scene there's no sign of them at all , I'm wondering did fox decide to drop them from the film, and just use the APC scene for promotional value , and it won't actually be in the film ?
Yeah maybe... If they were to be used as written in the script they wouldn't serve much purpose in the movie, they don't do much to say the least. Maybe it's for the better if they drop them ? Never had a big interest in those two, the highlights are clearly the upgrade and the captured pred.
I still want NECA's figures of the new Predator hounds and spiders if to do nothing but extend the limited AVP Bestiary.
Yeah BigDaddyJohn pretty much my thoughts too , it was the one element I hated , so I really do hope they have been dropped, certainly looks that way at the moment. Friendly predators were never a good idea in my opinion , ... yuk! :-X
@The Old One , you can bet your life that Neca will be all over this film , the predators , hounds and spiders in many variations, especially if the film is a commercial success, even though they have only announced the upgrade to be expected around October , I expect them to go all out next year. It's too much of a money maker for them. Pretty sure the predator line is their longest running line too.
This looks very good compared to the first tralier. Like the look of the captured predator can't wait until neca gets around to making a figure of him.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 10:38:55 PM
Yeah BigDaddyJohn pretty much my thoughts too , it was the one element I hated , so I really do hope they have been dropped, certainly looks that way at the moment. Friendly predators were never a good idea in my opinion , ... yuk! :-X
@The Old One , you can bet your life that Neca will be all over this film , the predators , hounds and spiders in many variations, especially if the film is a commercial success, even though they have only announced the upgrade to be expected around October , I expect them to go all out next year. It's too much of a money maker for them. Pretty sure the predator line is their longest running line too.
They really have to make a figure of the predator the upgrade slammed into the car.
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Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 09:38:26 PM
Openmaw the entire third act was reshot, isn't that telling you that things have changed since that script ? judging by the trailers Quinn is now the vocal point of the film, the way things have started to go , I'm not paying to much attention to the script , it's super old now and frankly barring the premise I don't really expect the film to resemble the script that much , sure certain events might still be there , but overall the feel of the trailer has clearly shown the tone has shifted since the days of the old script.
I still think it's strange that they would show the upgrade before the friendly predators , barring the APC scene there's no sign of them at all , I'm wondering did fox decide to drop them from the film, and just use the APC scene for promotional value , and it won't actually be in the film ?
Yeah maybe... If they were to be used as written in the script they wouldn't serve much purpose in the movie, they don't do much to say the least. Maybe it's for the better if they drop them ? Never had a big interest in those two, the highlights are clearly the upgrade and the captured pred.
I wouldn't think they'd drop the two friendlies, simply because
Spoiler
It appears that much of the original script is the same, in which case captured bites the dust pretty early on in the movie.
If that's what happens, then it would basically just be Upgrade as the single Predator throughout most of the movie.
...On second thought, I guess would make sense, since he is "The Predator" - he is technically supposed to be the star of the show, Predator-wise.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 10, 2018, 11:10:11 PM
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Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 09:38:26 PM
Openmaw the entire third act was reshot, isn't that telling you that things have changed since that script ? judging by the trailers Quinn is now the vocal point of the film, the way things have started to go , I'm not paying to much attention to the script , it's super old now and frankly barring the premise I don't really expect the film to resemble the script that much , sure certain events might still be there , but overall the feel of the trailer has clearly shown the tone has shifted since the days of the old script.
I still think it's strange that they would show the upgrade before the friendly predators , barring the APC scene there's no sign of them at all , I'm wondering did fox decide to drop them from the film, and just use the APC scene for promotional value , and it won't actually be in the film ?
Yeah maybe... If they were to be used as written in the script they wouldn't serve much purpose in the movie, they don't do much to say the least. Maybe it's for the better if they drop them ? Never had a big interest in those two, the highlights are clearly the upgrade and the captured pred.
I wouldn't think they'd drop the two friendlies, simply because
Spoiler
It appears that much of the original script is the same, in which case captured bites the dust pretty early on in the movie.
If that's what happens, then it would basically just be Upgrade as the single Predator throughout most of the movie.
...On second thought, I guess would make sense, since he is "The Predator" - he is technically supposed to be the star of the show, Predator-wise.
Mmm the captured pred has a decent run through the film considering the odds he faces don't you think ?
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 10, 2018, 11:10:11 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 10, 2018, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 09:38:26 PM
Openmaw the entire third act was reshot, isn't that telling you that things have changed since that script ? judging by the trailers Quinn is now the vocal point of the film, the way things have started to go , I'm not paying to much attention to the script , it's super old now and frankly barring the premise I don't really expect the film to resemble the script that much , sure certain events might still be there , but overall the feel of the trailer has clearly shown the tone has shifted since the days of the old script.
I still think it's strange that they would show the upgrade before the friendly predators , barring the APC scene there's no sign of them at all , I'm wondering did fox decide to drop them from the film, and just use the APC scene for promotional value , and it won't actually be in the film ?
Yeah maybe... If they were to be used as written in the script they wouldn't serve much purpose in the movie, they don't do much to say the least. Maybe it's for the better if they drop them ? Never had a big interest in those two, the highlights are clearly the upgrade and the captured pred.
I wouldn't think they'd drop the two friendlies, simply because
Spoiler
It appears that much of the original script is the same, in which case captured bites the dust pretty early on in the movie.
If that's what happens, then it would basically just be Upgrade as the single Predator throughout most of the movie.
...On second thought, I guess would make sense, since he is "The Predator" - he is technically supposed to be the star of the show, Predator-wise.
Well shit..
Spoiler
I guess it makes sense, the Captured Predator bites the dust first- then the friendlies. He probably does get killed shortly after being smashed into the car. Guess it's better to know now than to be pissed off when it happens. I was hoping for at least one of the other Predators to make it to the final act against the Upgrade. Granted maybe something could have changed but if the Upgrade is the Predator of this film then I assume not.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 10:38:55 PM
@The Old One
You can bet your life that Neca will be all over this.
I hope so, they certainly don't do Alien justice but I like their scale so I have to get my fix from their mass production of the franchise somehow.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 10, 2018, 11:23:30 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 10, 2018, 11:10:11 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jun 10, 2018, 10:31:23 PM
Yeah maybe... If they were to be used as written in the script they wouldn't serve much purpose in the movie, they don't do much to say the least. Maybe it's for the better if they drop them ? Never had a big interest in those two, the highlights are clearly the upgrade and the captured pred.
I wouldn't think they'd drop the two friendlies, simply because
Spoiler
It appears that much of the original script is the same, in which case captured bites the dust pretty early on in the movie.
If that's what happens, then it would basically just be Upgrade as the single Predator throughout most of the movie.
...On second thought, I guess would make sense, since he is "The Predator" - he is technically supposed to be the star of the show, Predator-wise.
Mmm the captured pred has a decent run through the film considering the odds he faces don't you think ?
He totally does. Badassery all the way. I'd hope that they make changes so he can stick around for as long as possible :P
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 10, 2018, 11:26:36 PM
Well shit.. Spoiler
I guess it makes sense, the Captured Predator bites the dust first- then the friendlies. He probably does get killed shortly after being smashed into the car. Guess it's better to know now than to be pissed off when it happens. I was hoping for at least one of the other Predators to make it to the final act against the Upgrade. Granted maybe something could have changed but if the Upgrade is the Predator of this film then I assume not.
One day, ONE DAY we will have a Predator movie where the main pred lives to tell the tale :'(
Quote from: PredonMe on Jun 10, 2018, 07:38:21 PM
It was bad enough that the first trailer made it seem like the kid was going to play a big part in the story, now we also come to the reveal of the super predator being the actual big bad and the classic predator being, once again, just fodder to show off how cool and badass the new predator is.
You think so? It seems like the classic predator will have more to do in the plot than just being slammed on a car.
QuoteIt's been almost 30 years since we last had a Preadtor be the actual antagonist of his own movie. Ever since then we've had this stupid rehash of "predators are there doing their thing but a bigger bad comes along so now predator must join forces with the humans to take down this baddie"
Think about it, in what specific way were the "super" predators in RR's 'Predators' superior? They felt like every other predator except they looked a little different when the mask came off. Point being, there was never a time in the film where it felt like the protagonists were dealing with a creature that wasn't a predator. So in my opinion, a predator was the actual antagonist in the movie.
QuoteYou know what the worst part is? AvP:R was the last time we saw classic predator actually accomplish something by himself by taking on the predalien.
What did Wolf accomplish, really? The predalien would have been killed with or without him. His primary mission was to contain the infestation, not only did he fail but he also let a human make away with his plasmacaster tech.
QuoteImagine if in Jurassic World the classic T-Rex had just been stomped on by the I-Rex within 5 seconds of appearing on screen
I didn't read the script but I doubt 5 seconds is all this classic will have in him. Shane Black knows what he has, he's not going to downplay the capabilities of a classic predator. We already know it slays its way through a convoy or two, so that'll be fun to watch and establish it as badass in its own right. Have faith, bud, it's not looking too bad right about now after that last TV spot if you ask me ;D
He is totally badass you can trust me on that one !
Yeah personally I think the biggest sign they got dropped, is the fact they didn't appear in the APC and the fact the upgrade was revealed first , certainly a strange move, however if they are indeed still in there , maybe they are but they get used as cannon fodder , not the captured ? Also Hollywood I agree 100% , and this is coming from someone who was completely negative to begin with in the earlier days. Honestly I think this film could be incredible for fans and movie goers alike. All the right signs are there imo ;D
what are you dribbling on about... this looks nothing like the originals... it looks lile avpr with a slightly bigger budget
Xan21 go and watch the originals then , not all of us want to watch the same film again and again. I said it has taken influence from all the predator films , and why wouldn't it ?
I'm glad they are finally giving us new stuff. And I bet if it was in the vein of the originals , you would also say it's too much like the originals.
Some people just cannot be pleased >:(
Quote from: Xan21 on Jun 11, 2018, 01:22:20 AM
what are you dribbling on about... this looks nothing like the originals... it looks lile avpr with a slightly bigger budget
Why would it look like the original if it doesn't take place in a jungle...?
It can
look like AVPR from the little footage we've seen and still have much stronger characters, better action, dialogue, story beats, flow, lighting, and turn out to be a much better film overall. Personally, I haven't seen anything worth getting worried about in these trailers. What were you hoping to see?
I AM SUPER EXCITED. THIS LOOKS FRIGGIN AWESOME.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 11:49:19 PM
Yeah personally I think the biggest sign they got dropped, is the fact they didn't appear in the APC and the fact the upgrade was revealed first , certainly a strange move, however if they are indeed still in there , maybe they are but they get used as cannon fodder , not the captured ? Also Hollywood I agree 100% , and this is coming from someone who was completely negative to begin with in the earlier days.
They have a whole convoy in the script. We've seen the set photos. There's no way they cut out the ally Predators.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 11:49:19 PM
Honestly I think this film could be incredible for fans and movie goers alike. All the right signs are there imo ;D
Really? A masterpiece eh? What signs?
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 11, 2018, 01:44:17 AM
It can look like AVPR from the little footage we've seen and still have much stronger characters, better action, dialogue, story beats, flow, lighting, and turn out to be a much better film overall. Personally, I haven't seen anything worth getting worried about in these trailers. What were you hoping to see?
Well considering we could never even see AVP:R in the first place...
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 10, 2018, 11:40:55 PM
You think so? It seems like the classic predator will have more to do in the plot than just being slammed on a car.
In the sense that it makes the body count rise, yes.
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 10, 2018, 11:40:55 PM
Think about it, in what specific way were the "super" predators in RR's 'Predators' superior? They felt like every other predator except they looked a little different when the mask came off. Point being, there was never a time in the film where it felt like the protagonists were dealing with a creature that wasn't a predator. So in my opinion, a predator was the actual antagonist in the movie.[/quote[
That's not really the point though. Supers were implied to be better not only by RR and co, but also by the film itself "The bigger ones hunt he smaller ones" and the film goes out of it's way to have super beat the shit out of the Classic Predator. Filmed and framed to make it look like a curb stomping.
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 10, 2018, 11:40:55 PM
I didn't read the script but I doubt 5 seconds is all this classic will have in him. Shane Black knows what he has, he's not going to downplay the capabilities of a classic predator. We already know it slays its way through a convoy or two, so that'll be fun to watch and establish it as badass in its own right. Have faith, bud, it's not looking too bad right about now after that last TV spot if you ask me ;D
As scripted Spoiler
After captured catches up with the loonies and Holbrook, it is basically revealed that he is actually a "good" Preddo. Though, the script fingers him as a "good guy" in the first couple paragraphs, during his "escape" from the ark.
Moments after this reveal that Captured is in fact a "good" guy, he is taken out by Upgrade. They would have had to dramatically alter what's happening in the story at that point, and I don't just mean adding in a body slam into a car. That can easily be dropped into that sequence of events, I mean changing what's happening plot side. It's all a big escape, wherein Upgrade gives chase like a Terminator.
IE: There isn't really a spot for Captured to have a good fight with Upgrade. It's going to be a curb stomp, because the idea is once again to show just how dangerous this new version of Predator is.
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Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 11, 2018, 01:44:17 AM
It can look like AVPR from the little footage we've seen and still have much stronger characters, better action, dialogue, story beats, flow, lighting, and turn out to be a much better film overall. Personally, I haven't seen anything worth getting worried about in these trailers. What were you hoping to see?
Well considering we could never even see AVP:R in the first place...
lol true true.
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 10, 2018, 11:40:55 PM
You think so? It seems like the classic predator will have more to do in the plot than just being slammed on a car.
QuoteIn the sense that it makes the body count rise, yes.
You mean by himself dying or by killing human characters? I admit I didn't read the script :P
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 10, 2018, 11:40:55 PM
Think about it, in what specific way were the "super" predators in RR's 'Predators' superior? They felt like every other predator except they looked a little different when the mask came off. Point being, there was never a time in the film where it felt like the protagonists were dealing with a creature that wasn't a predator. So in my opinion, a predator was the actual antagonist in the movie.
QuoteThat's not really the point though. Supers were implied to be better not only by RR and co, but also by the film itself
I don't really care what the filmmaker might've intended, only what they communicated through his movie. Noland, the guy with several cards missing from a full deck, didn't seem too reliable with his imaginary friend in regards to knowledge of the situation, if you ask me.
Quote"The bigger ones hunt he smaller ones"
How much bigger were they if at all? I couldn't tell a difference. Were the "super" preds 3 inches taller or something?
Quoteand the film goes out of it's way to have super beat the shit out of the Classic Predator. Filmed and framed to make it look like a curb stomping.
was it really a one-sided fight? And considering the classic was strung up for days?
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 10, 2018, 11:40:55 PM
I didn't read the script but I doubt 5 seconds is all this classic will have in him. Shane Black knows what he has, he's not going to downplay the capabilities of a classic predator. We already know it slays its way through a convoy or two, so that'll be fun to watch and establish it as badass in its own right. Have faith, bud, it's not looking too bad right about now after that last TV spot if you ask me ;D
Quote
As scripted Spoiler
After captured catches up with the loonies and Holbrook, it is basically revealed that he is actually a "good" Preddo. Though, the script fingers him as a "good guy" in the first couple paragraphs, during his "escape" from the ark.
Moments after this reveal that Captured is in fact a "good" guy, he is taken out by Upgrade. They would have had to dramatically alter what's happening in the story at that point, and I don't just mean adding in a body slam into a car. That can easily be dropped into that sequence of events, I mean changing what's happening plot side. It's all a big escape, wherein Upgrade gives chase like a Terminator.
IE: There isn't really a spot for Captured to have a good fight with Upgrade. It's going to be a curb stomp, because the idea is once again to show just how dangerous this new version of Predator is.
I trust you've made a good point here but I don't want to learn more spoilers than I've already unintentionally learned.
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Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 10, 2018, 11:49:19 PM
Yeah personally I think the biggest sign they got dropped, is the fact they didn't appear in the APC and the fact the upgrade was revealed first , certainly a strange move, however if they are indeed still in there , maybe they are but they get used as cannon fodder , not the captured ? Also Hollywood I agree 100% , and this is coming from someone who was completely negative to begin with in the earlier days.
They have a whole convoy in the script. We've seen the set photos. There's no way they cut out the ally Predators.
a predator can be seen on the APC alongside the humans in the teaser too
A masterpiece is rarely a film that pleases moviegoers and fanatics alike btw.
I highly doubt they are cutting Ally Predators out of the movie, I didn't read the script, but I think they going to show them soon in the trailers, or keeping them a surprise for simple movie goers, who don't know about all this leaked info.
Also I agree with Hollywood that Predators from RR didn't feel superior at all. They tried to make subtle changes and it didn't work for me personally, the super predators from RR "Predators" felt weak compare to first two predators from original movies.
Three predators couldn't handle a group of warriors from Earth, where the single Predators were slaughtering everybody. Yeh I get the point that all characters from "Predators" were bad ass like Dutch and Mike Harrigan, but it didn't feel like it. Also I don't like action scene in the end of "Predators". The fight was Meeeeh.
It's why I don't have problem with the Upgrade here, because Shane does action well, and also Upgrade really look different in the size department, where it's delivering idea much clear that this is Super Pred.
I wonder if the Predators in Nimrod Antal's film all looked like Berserker under the mask or perhaps they were regular Predators that teamed up with this, mutated runt called Berserker because they didn't want to follow the rules.
I'd say considering the Predators storyline is unlikely to return that, that was probably the case. Especially in the light of this new film that paints both Berserker and Upgrade very much as Rogues that have strayed off the path.
The Old One If I am correct I think they all were super preds, because their skin texture(not color, but texture, it felt more thick elephent like) were the same as Mr. Black one, and different from all other from original movies.
So I'm wondering if Dutch has a cameo in the re-worked 3rd act now. Maybe he'll be the custodian at the school, and all this predator infighting is crashing his retirement party.
What a movie that would be, like an R-rated home alone meets precinct 13. Arnold using his tools and climbing in the ceiling to fight the predators and save everybody. He could finish with a great one-liner like, "go flush yourself" or something about "detention".
In the alternate ending a predator would just fall through the roof onto his cake, and he'd run away screaming "not again!".
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 11, 2018, 04:45:02 AM
So I'm wondering if Dutch has a cameo in the re-worked 3rd act now. Maybe he'll be the custodian at the school, and all this predator infighting is crashing his retirement party.
What a movie that would be, like an R-rated home alone meets precinct 13. Arnold using his tools and climbing in the ceiling to fight the predators and save everybody. He could finish with a great one-liner like, "go flush yourself" or something about "detention".
In the alternate ending a predator would just fall through the roof onto his cake, and he'd run away screaming "not again!".
Maybe he will be Kindergarten cop. It's not a tumor.
I personally would be happy to see Danny Glover in the franchise again) "Too old for this SHIT" ;D
Quote from: azamultic on Jun 11, 2018, 04:29:57 AM
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I'm aware but that feels more AVP like, with just reusing the molds and painting them differently for practical reasons rather than anything else.
Quote from: azamultic on Jun 11, 2018, 05:00:32 AM
I personally would be happy to see Danny Glover in the franchise again) "Too old for this SHIT" ;D
He could be the old security guard. Together, he and Dutch could team up to save the whole town. Dutch could re-engineer some cool super soakers with predator tech. As long as Dutch gives the Predator an overly aggressive slow-mo double nipple twist when the thing picks him up this time, I'll be happy. He can loose the "Barbaric Yalp" he did in the first one while he's doing it. I could see him being spun wildly on the merry-go-round, being shot at and swung at by the predator, as he slides on his back towards the edge dropping his "oh sh*t" line from where he fell off the cliff in the original.
Quote from: burkewhimp on Jun 11, 2018, 04:55:30 AM
Maybe he will be Kindergarten cop. It's not a tumor.
It might not be a tooma,
but he is "da pottie poopa". ;)
The Old One
but they had the classic one, so they could used his molds and skin texture and put armor of berserkers, this way it would be clear the idea that only Mr Black was berserker, and other guys were regulars, but they had three predators with same skin texture and one regular, so therefore from artistic point it's clear implementation that they are all Berserks. But I could be wrong ;)
Is it just me or does the upgrade predator's arm look 4 times bigger in this pic (which I assume is cgi):
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/34755216_1755474134533101_2761693074026397696_o-701x341.jpg
Than in this one (which I assume isn't cgi):
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/34984903_1755474077866440_3267880151253254144_o-701x341.jpg
noticed that Quinn had the Pred gauntlet on :laugh: is that in the script too?
Grimtaur this both shots are CGI. Differences because Biceps squished, and from the front Biceps looks different then from the side. Also position of the camera.
Is the super pred 100% CGI or it has a puppet also?
Quote from: Grimtaur on Jun 11, 2018, 05:58:05 AM
Is it just me or does the upgrade predator's arm look 4 times bigger in this pic (which I assume is cgi):
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/34755216_1755474134533101_2761693074026397696_o-701x341.jpg
Than in this one (which I assume isn't cgi):
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/34984903_1755474077866440_3267880151253254144_o-701x341.jpg
thank goodness the mouth of the upgrade closes! lol it's cgi after all...
also, no camo pants on the dissident predator! or perhaps it had taken them off prior to that scene? lol
hang on a minute openmaw , where did I claim it was going to be a masterpiece? I didn't, I said "I think it's shaping up to be an incredible film for fans and movie goers alike" don't put words in my mouth. You are constantly referring to the script, but the fact is the script is really old now, they reshot and rewrote the entire third act. As for the convoy scene , my logic is that the APC scene has just been used for promotional use only and won't appear in the film itself, why would they show the upgrade first, yes you can make out the predators on APC in the first trailer, but it's incredibly fleeting , almost as if they are being hidden in plain sight. And there's no need to try and put people down who are looking forward to the film and not constantly negative like you.
The draft that leaked was nearly a year old by the time the film went in front of cameras. Who knows how many iterations it went through. And then the third act was very extensively reworked during reshoots. Yeah, the core story seems to have remained but the specifics may not be. People need to stop treating the leaked script was have as the definitive edition of what's in store for us. We've already heard of numerous changes.
Just an FYI but all the tv spot discussions were merged into this one. There were about 3 or 4 of them including the Chad one and some discussion split off from the teaser trailer thread.
"This Film Is Not Yet Rated" ???
Previously, the rating was confirmed, why not specify that R? Or just for this TV-Spot it does not apply?
Black is aiming for R but it wont be officially rated until the edit is settled on and it's submitted to the classification board.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 11, 2018, 10:39:08 AM
Black is aiming for R but it wont be officially rated until the edit is settled on and it's submitted to the classification board.
Accepted! Thanks! ;)
Man this movie looks f**king horrible.
Quote from: csutkakoma on Jun 11, 2018, 11:12:03 AM
Man this movie looks f**king horrible.
I think it looks pretty f**king awesome, but that's just my opinion
To me it looks like Terminator, RoboCop, Alien franchise butchering (You name it) all over again. This thing is full of unimaginative and unnecessary ideas with a very low budget Sci-Fi movie vibe...not to mention with zero atmosphere and again...bigger is better approach with our Hulk Hogan predator. But no surprise here. I am a long time fan and I got burned so many times in this case with the Predator, Alien, AVP and Terminator franchises...that I just do not care anymore.
Quote from: Ramjet311 on Jun 11, 2018, 11:17:44 AM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Jun 11, 2018, 11:12:03 AM
Man this movie looks f**king horrible.
I think it looks pretty f**king awesome, but that's just my opinion
+1
It looks like the best of old and new, we have a kick ass classic Predator for the fans like me, and some new and exciting stuff worth going to the movies for the general audience.
That, combined with real characters from a promising screenwriter/director has me all pumped.
I know what i'm talking about, i was here when AvP-R was made... this could have been straight to DVD after the AvP's, fast forward ten years later and i really think we're blessed and damn lucky to get a quality-looking movie like this that they evidently want to get right.
September it is.
Quote from: Ramjet311 on Jun 11, 2018, 11:17:44 AM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Jun 11, 2018, 11:12:03 AM
Man this movie looks f**king horrible.
I think it looks pretty f**king awesome, but that's just my opinion
Yeah I agree, it looks intense, fun and deadly
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I really liked this trailer and I've realised why. The kid isn't in it and neither is Olivia Munn (the least convincing actor ever).
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Jun 11, 2018, 01:08:08 PM
I really liked this trailer and I've realised why. The kid isn't in it and neither is Olivia Munn (the least convincing actor ever).
But she was in the trailer, actually. ???
Really? I think my hate for her has blinded me. The woman has zero range when it comes to acting.
Edit: just rewatched it, she doesnt speak in thus trailer. Think that's how she got by me.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Jun 11, 2018, 01:21:42 PM
Really? I think my hate for her has blinded me.
Yup, obviously.
Anyone notice the Super Pred with the "dog-like" stance/walk after he grabs the Pred thru the window?
Definitely more "creature" feel.
Maybe his huge biceps are a mutation from the DNA of Dutch????? lol
Quote from: Original Predator on Jun 11, 2018, 03:13:20 PM
Anyone notice the Super Pred with the "dog-like" stance/walk after he grabs the Pred thru the window?
Definitely more "creature" feel.
Maybe his huge biceps are a mutation from the DNA of Dutch????? lol
Yes I did notice that the body was like of a animal or dog like you said once he slammed the predator on the car
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Guys, with all we know about female Predators being bigger and badder than the males... what if that big one is female... and it's mating season? ;D
Quote from: gabgrave on Jun 11, 2018, 04:46:28 PM
Guys, with all we know about female Predators being bigger and badder than the males... what if that big one is female... and it's mating season? ;D
Quote from: gabgrave on Jun 11, 2018, 04:46:28 PM
Guys, with all we know about female Predators being bigger and badder than the males... what if that big one is female... and it's mating season? ;D
And unfortunately for Captured... It's Five O' Clock.
Damn.
Obviously this is pure speculation. But personally I am kind of hoping that the "friendly" predators (if we can really call them that) are still in the movie. Not because I like the idea of predator and human team up, but I do think having 3 or 4 predators with varying levels of motivation and hostility to the human characters has some cool potential.
You could have the classic / captured predator, who is clearly not friendly, and he's constantly at odds with these other two who seem to cooperate with his intended prey. He might kill them if he didn't think they were his only chance of getting out of the lab or compound. Then, all of a sudden some abomination freak upgrade shows up, and they all realize they're a bit screwed. Sounds dynamic to me. It probably won't play out that way at all, though.
I didn't dig the leaked APC photo, but at this point I don't really know what to expect, and that's creating some excitement. I don't outright dislike anything I've seen in the two trailers yet.
I do think it's odd that the captured predator seems to have the exact same bio mask that the one on the leaked APC photo had.
Yeah lefty I was thinking a lot about it today , iv come to the conclusion they are in it , but get used as cannon fodder earlier on , and the captured kills them and maybe steals their gear hence why he is in the same mask , seems the logical step at this stage, and maybe that's why they were not featured in the trailers as they were deemed unimportant by Shane and fox as they are killed off early on. Of course I'm just speculating though ! ;)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 11, 2018, 08:20:03 AM
The draft that leaked was nearly a year old by the time the film went in front of cameras. Who knows how many iterations it went through. And then the third act was very extensively reworked during reshoots. Yeah, the core story seems to have remained but the specifics may not be. People need to stop treating the leaked script was have as the definitive edition of what's in store for us. We've already heard of numerous changes.
Just an FYI but all the tv spot discussions were merged into this one. There were about 3 or 4 of them including the Chad one and some discussion split off from the teaser trailer thread.
Well, to be fair... it's easy to do since the commercials have been in line with the leaked content, and it would be simple to infer that much of the specifics are the same too even if that's not the case. A few interviews also point to some of the "meh" parts of the leaked content still being unchanged (like the friendly pred-dogs - one element that I hope is dropped.)
Quote from: gabgrave on Jun 11, 2018, 04:46:28 PM
Guys, with all we know about female Predators being bigger and badder than the males... what if that big one is female... and it's mating season? ;D
Excuse me, just need to dry heave a bit :laugh:
wait was there more than one tv spot out there?
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 11, 2018, 08:09:30 PM
Quote from: gabgrave on Jun 11, 2018, 04:46:28 PM
Guys, with all we know about female Predators being bigger and badder than the males... what if that big one is female... and it's mating season? ;D
Excuse me, just need to dry heave a bit :laugh:
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 11, 2018, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: gabgrave on Jun 11, 2018, 04:46:28 PM
Guys, with all we know about female Predators being bigger and badder than the males... what if that big one is female... and it's mating season? ;D
And unfortunately for Captured... It's Five O' Clock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4yLPF5sM0A
Damn.
Quote from: The Old One on Jun 11, 2018, 11:37:38 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 11, 2018, 08:09:30 PM
Quote from: gabgrave on Jun 11, 2018, 04:46:28 PM
Guys, with all we know about female Predators being bigger and badder than the males... what if that big one is female... and it's mating season? ;D
Excuse me, just need to dry heave a bit :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsR2hAYEQ7U
Teeeenah! :laugh:
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 11, 2018, 11:45:45 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 11, 2018, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: gabgrave on Jun 11, 2018, 04:46:28 PM
Guys, with all we know about female Predators being bigger and badder than the males... what if that big one is female... and it's mating season? ;D
And unfortunately for Captured... It's Five O' Clock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4yLPF5sM0A
Damn.
Quote from: The Old One on Jun 11, 2018, 11:37:38 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 11, 2018, 08:09:30 PM
Quote from: gabgrave on Jun 11, 2018, 04:46:28 PM
Guys, with all we know about female Predators being bigger and badder than the males... what if that big one is female... and it's mating season? ;D
Excuse me, just need to dry heave a bit :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsR2hAYEQ7U
Teeeenah! :laugh:
It's Chad predator at 2:30!!
Old One, that was well worth it :D
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 11, 2018, 08:09:30 PM
Well, to be fair... it's easy to do since the commercials have been in line with the leaked content, and it would be simple to infer that much of the specifics are the same too even if that's not the case. A few interviews also point to some of the "meh" parts of the leaked content still being unchanged (like the friendly pred-dogs - one element that I hope is dropped.)
I'm going to be honest...
...Kinda like the friendly Predator dog. It's lovable in a way.
and I love
Spoiler
Casey telling the army guys "If you touch my dog i'll kill you."
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 12, 2018, 12:37:16 AM
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 11, 2018, 08:09:30 PM
Well, to be fair... it's easy to do since the commercials have been in line with the leaked content, and it would be simple to infer that much of the specifics are the same too even if that's not the case. A few interviews also point to some of the "meh" parts of the leaked content still being unchanged (like the friendly pred-dogs - one element that I hope is dropped.)
I'm going to be honest...
...Kinda like the friendly Predator dog. It's lovable in a way.
and I love Spoiler
Casey telling the army guys "If you touch my dog i'll kill you."
Spoiler
Doesn't she say that after doing some sort of round-house kick? I thought I had safely removed all the cringe from my memory. Some good ayahuasca or psilocybin is definitely in order for re-purging. For medicinal purposes of course ;)
I have a strong inclination that those parts were at least modified to a certain extent. I can't see them staying in a Shane Black film - it's just not his style.
Oh it's goofy as all Hell, and I would hope it got changed for the integrity of the film... Buuuuut, if you're gonna have some goofy comedic stuff, putting it into an animal is the way to go, I think. At least then it's not tainting the Predator or human characters.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 12, 2018, 12:32:19 AM
It's Chad predator at 2:30!!
Old One, that was well worth it :D
Now I want someone to edit the trailer so Chad calls Captured a "DWWEEEEBB."
For someone openmaw who has done nothing but talk this film down and speak negatively of it for months. You sure put a lot of effort into it , I'll give you that, are you sure you're not secretly excited for this film? Sure seems that way considering how much time you spend talking about it ! ;D
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 12, 2018, 02:39:37 AM
For someone openmaw who has done nothing but talk this film down and speak negatively of it for months. You sure put a lot of effort into it , I'll give you that, are you sure you're not secretly excited for this film? Sure seems that way considering how much time you spend talking about it ! ;D
I've stated on numerous occasions things that I like. I'm not being
negative. I'm being realistic. I am the "consider this" man, curbing enthusiasm in all the threads.
For some it may be irritating, but consider what we've seen seen since 2007. People getting jacked up with hype and then having their legs kicked out from under them. There are a lot, lot lot lot of pitfalls in this production.
There are quite a few things that I like. Many of the actors (Olmos and Jane in particular.) I like that Shane Black is involved in general because at least someone form the old guard is there. I like the design of the Captured Predator. I think that they've done a good job on the Upgrade's design.
Am I excited, though? Look, i've loved these characters since I was 8 years old.
(https://i.imgur.com/udhYcOu.jpg)
Back in the 90s I remember watching PREDATOR on TV for the first time, while I sat with my 12 inch Alien and Predator dolls. My very first email address on the internet was "thealienfan@hotmail.com" My first forum signature on any forum I ever visited was one of several Predator quotes.
I used to cut up cardboard and use duct tape to make Predator gauntlets and a mask and a smart disc.
So, yeah. I have a lot to say on the matter, and I want them to kindly please not f*ck it up, and have faith in the classic original creature, and the near perfect tone of that movie. The one that everyone loves.
The same can be said for all of us there , and personally it might not be a better film , but for me predator 2 was a better "predator" film, and my favourite. So in other words you would rather they just rinse and repeat the first ? Correct ?
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 12, 2018, 01:12:03 AM
Oh it's goofy as all Hell, and I would hope it got changed for the integrity of the film... Buuuuut, if you're gonna have some goofy comedic stuff, putting it into an animal is the way to go, I think. At least then it's not tainting the Predator or human characters.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 12, 2018, 12:32:19 AM
It's Chad predator at 2:30!!
Old One, that was well worth it :D
Now I want someone to edit the trailer so Chad calls Captured a "DWWEEEEBB."
"O'DOYLE RULES", followed by a mighty arm raise.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 12, 2018, 02:39:37 AM
For someone openmaw who has done nothing but talk this film down and speak negatively of it for months. You sure put a lot of effort into it , I'll give you that, are you sure you're not secretly excited for this film? Sure seems that way considering how much time you spend talking about it ! ;D
If I recall, a certain someone was also unabashedly against the movie until they read the script ;) Some people liked the leaked content completely, others didn't, and some of us (like myself) or in between and wrestling with the parts that are hard to accept as a longtime fan.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 12, 2018, 02:58:07 AM
Back in the 90s I remember watching PREDATOR on TV for the first time, while I sat with my 12 inch Alien and Predator dolls.
Those are not dolls. Those are manly figures. Diminutive Statues of greatness. I never had any mind you, still don't. I had one G.I. joe, and some street sharks. Oh the days.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 12, 2018, 03:21:35 AM
The same can be said for all of us there , and personally it might not be a better film , but for me predator 2 was a better "predator" film, and my favourite. So in other words you would rather they just rinse and repeat the first ? Correct ?
Not correct.
The natural course for the series after Predator 2 was escalation. We hunt them. That would be my focus in my Predator 3.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 12, 2018, 03:39:10 AM
Those are not dolls. Those are manly figures. Diminutive Statues of greatness. I never had any mind you, still don't. I had one G.I. joe, and some street sharks. Oh the days.
Those figures went great with my 12 inch GI Joes. :)
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 12, 2018, 02:39:37 AM
For someone openmaw who has done nothing but talk this film down and speak negatively of it for months. You sure put a lot of effort into it , I'll give you that, are you sure you're not secretly excited for this film? Sure seems that way considering how much time you spend talking about it ! ;D
He is the anchor for this alien vessel of ours. Keeping us grounded, and realistic. Some of the movies in these franchises have been so fantastic that it doesn't always leap quickly to mind, exactly how much doody has been dropped in our lap since the late 90's. One needs both devils and angels on their shoulders to stay on track. Dissenting opinion, is the hallmark of positive and fruitful discussion.
Well I can at least say Captured actually has some pretty sick armor.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 12, 2018, 03:40:43 AM
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on Jun 12, 2018, 03:21:35 AM
The same can be said for all of us there , and personally it might not be a better film , but for me predator 2 was a better "predator" film, and my favourite. So in other words you would rather they just rinse and repeat the first ? Correct ?
Not correct.
The natural course for the series after Predator 2 was escalation. We hunt them. That would be my focus in my Predator 3.
This. That's what I'm talking about. Reversed scenario First Blood style.
Quote from: Wysps on Jun 12, 2018, 12:54:07 AM
I have a strong inclination that those parts were at least modified to a certain extent. I can't see them staying in a Shane Black film - it's just not his style.
I'm fairly certain Black said something about removing that kind of humour from the script and letting it come naturally from the actors. Which I think is best. Moments like that made me "eeehhhh".
Wysps your right bud , I originally was very against this film , as many members can testify, but after a long think about things , I realised it was mostly based on nothing more that my own bias, hear say and a blend resentment at current Hollywood trends.
Iv realised over time, that this film really did need new ideas injected into it. And I'm incredibly pleased that Shane black took the initiative to try new things and broaden the horizon. Also when I finally got the script , it got progressively better each time I read it.
There are elements that I'm still unsure of, and some that I still just damn right hate. However the script is so old , that I don't really expect the film to look or feel anything like the script and judging from everything that's come out over the last month , including set reports , stills and the trailers , there's nothing there I can honestly say " I didn't like" there is however plenty I can confidently say "I do like"
so sure iv come round full circle. But I just think in my opinion a lot of the backlash is now unwarranted and uncalled for. With Openmaw it's just friendly banter , but there are a lot of people out there right now that are really grating on me, especially on YouTube etc.
Corporal hicks put it down to a T a few months back , when he said on the lines of " if it's too like the original the haters jump on it and say " it's just a rehash " and if it strays to far from the original , the haters then say " it's nothing like the original"
it's them types that I don't like , openmaw is cool I'm just messing with him ;)
Generally most people on the internet are going to hate something regardless. No one wants a rehash because then it is going to be called too safe, and no one wants it to be to unlike the original because then they're going to say that it was too different (Prime example, The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi). All they can do is make the best film possible and hope that a large majority of the audience enjoys the movie.
Speaking of the last jedi I hope there isn't any forced or dated comedy in this. For all the faults on that movie it is the comedy that kills it in a very bad way. A predator movie should be played hard R. Nothing wrong with having a laugh here and there but action and thrills is the theme. I really digged this trailer but there is also that sinking feeling that they're hiding the really corny parts of the film.
Yea, too much comedy isn't good (like in P2, the unnecessarry chessiness was frustrating)
it didn't come through like that though. The part with Boyd on the bus and he others laughing at his line felt like the jokes from p1, it was all right.
Shane Black has always allowed his actors to improv on set and run ideas with him. He said so in his interviews on set. Actors like Keegan Michael Key and even Olivia Munn come from comedic backgrounds and will probably assist with things like that. Shane Black himself is a funny dude. He writes good comedy (The Nice Guys is hilarious). I think(and hope) he knows just how much comedy to use in a film like this. I don't want Iron Man 3 or Nice Guys level humour in this movie but I think most of the humour is going to come from the Loonies anyways.
I'm looking forward to Key and Jane's banter. They have a fun dynamic in the script.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 12, 2018, 07:42:47 PM
I'm looking forward to Key and Jane's banter. They have a fun dynamic in the script.
Yeah, and the character Thomas Jane plays is a f**king nutty, grumpy, rough, borderline psychotic, most likely alcoholic, estranged black sheep Uncle. So he's basically playing himself :laugh:
They did have some great banter though. One issue I had though.. SPOILERS BELOW.
Spoiler
I just felt like once the Loonies start dying it's like none of them cared. I hope they make these guys feel more like a brotherhood. In the introduction scene of the Loonies they seem to have some history from their time in the looney bin but once they start biting it not one of them mentions anything. Nebraska's death in particular is so anticlimactic because he literally gets engulfed in flames in front of McKenna and he doesn't he even react to it.
I'll admit I tend to be unimpressed with forced, over-the-top one-liners and gags - I've been to a number of movies where the theater around me is howling with laughter while I'm only occasionally cracking a smile - but I'm not humorless! I just like a more natural, relaxed, deadpan kind of humor, and from what we've seen from the two trailers so far, I've not too worried about corny jokes. Preferences aside, I think this movie especially isn't the place for it.
Quote from: MudButt on Jun 12, 2018, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 12, 2018, 07:42:47 PM
I'm looking forward to Key and Jane's banter. They have a fun dynamic in the script.
Yeah, and the character Thomas Jane plays is a f**king nutty, grumpy, rough, borderline psychotic, most likely alcoholic, estranged black sheep Uncle. So he's basically playing himself :laugh:
They did have some great banter though. One issue I had though.. SPOILERS BELOW.
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I just felt like once the Loonies start dying it's like none of them cared. I hope they make these guys feel more like a brotherhood. In the introduction scene of the Loonies they seem to have some history from their time in the looney bin but once they start biting it not one of them mentions anything. Nebraska's death in particular is so anticlimactic because he literally gets engulfed in flames in front of McKenna and he doesn't he even react to it.
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Nebraska's death should (could ?) change honestly, it felt underwhelming in the script. Some other deaths are cool, but weird also, precisely the one Baxley have... How can you kill someone by tearing his skin off lol ? I mean from a technical point of view how does a spider pred achieve that ? It felt really rushed out and inaccurate. For Coyle also. And Nettles's death isn't even described ! I'm really intrigued by how it will play out during the movie, and i do believe that some deaths have changed in some extent, and will be more developed.
I've been trying to find this script for a damn year now can some message me the right direction
YTL_Hunter_H2 message me your email I'll sort it for you ;)
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I'm looking forward to Key and Jane's banter. They have a fun dynamic in the script.
Yeah, and the character Thomas Jane plays is a f**king nutty, grumpy, rough, borderline psychotic, most likely alcoholic, estranged black sheep Uncle. So he's basically playing himself :laugh:
They did have some great banter though. One issue I had though.. SPOILERS BELOW.
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I just felt like once the Loonies start dying it's like none of them cared. I hope they make these guys feel more like a brotherhood. In the introduction scene of the Loonies they seem to have some history from their time in the looney bin but once they start biting it not one of them mentions anything. Nebraska's death in particular is so anticlimactic because he literally gets engulfed in flames in front of McKenna and he doesn't he even react to it.
Spot on about Thomas Jane, but did anyone else notice in the pic of the loonies in the hotel room, TJ is drinking tea? ( Whilst Trevante has a beer )
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I'm looking forward to Key and Jane's banter. They have a fun dynamic in the script.
Yeah, and the character Thomas Jane plays is a f**king nutty, grumpy, rough, borderline psychotic, most likely alcoholic, estranged black sheep Uncle. So he's basically playing himself [emoji23]
They did have some great banter though. One issue I had though.. SPOILERS BELOW.
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I just felt like once the Loonies start dying it's like none of them cared. I hope they make these guys feel more like a brotherhood. In the introduction scene of the Loonies they seem to have some history from their time in the looney bin but once they start biting it not one of them mentions anything. Nebraska's death in particular is so anticlimactic because he literally gets engulfed in flames in front of McKenna and he doesn't he even react to it.
Spot on about Thomas Jane, but did anyone else notice in the pic of the loonies in the hotel room, TJ is drinking tea? ( Whilst Trevante has a beer )
Oh yeah, spotted that within seconds...[emoji23]
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Frank Castle got sober.
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I'm looking forward to Key and Jane's banter. They have a fun dynamic in the script.
Yeah, and the character Thomas Jane plays is a f**king nutty, grumpy, rough, borderline psychotic, most likely alcoholic, estranged black sheep Uncle. So he's basically playing himself [emoji23]
They did have some great banter though. One issue I had though.. SPOILERS BELOW.
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I just felt like once the Loonies start dying it's like none of them cared. I hope they make these guys feel more like a brotherhood. In the introduction scene of the Loonies they seem to have some history from their time in the looney bin but once they start biting it not one of them mentions anything. Nebraska's death in particular is so anticlimactic because he literally gets engulfed in flames in front of McKenna and he doesn't he even react to it.
Spot on about Thomas Jane, but did anyone else notice in the pic of the loonies in the hotel room, TJ is drinking tea? ( Whilst Trevante has a beer )
Oh yeah, spotted that within seconds...[emoji23]
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Haha gives him the cranky old grandpa vibe
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Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 12, 2018, 07:42:47 PM
I'm looking forward to Key and Jane's banter. They have a fun dynamic in the script.
Yeah, and the character Thomas Jane plays is a f**king nutty, grumpy, rough, borderline psychotic, most likely alcoholic, estranged black sheep Uncle. So he's basically playing himself [emoji23]
They did have some great banter though. One issue I had though.. SPOILERS BELOW.
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I just felt like once the Loonies start dying it's like none of them cared. I hope they make these guys feel more like a brotherhood. In the introduction scene of the Loonies they seem to have some history from their time in the looney bin but once they start biting it not one of them mentions anything. Nebraska's death in particular is so anticlimactic because he literally gets engulfed in flames in front of McKenna and he doesn't he even react to it.
Spot on about Thomas Jane, but did anyone else notice in the pic of the loonies in the hotel room, TJ is drinking tea? ( Whilst Trevante has a beer )
Oh yeah, spotted that within seconds...[emoji23]
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Haha gives him the cranky old grandpa vibe
I love it! The lines from McKenna from the last tv-spot were really good IMO
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I feel very good about how the Loonies will be portrayed in this movie. The cast he assembled is so talented. I'm glad he didn't go after A-List actors and went for more seasoned character actors or up and coming TV stars.
Quote from: MudButt on Jun 12, 2018, 10:54:06 PM
I feel very good about how the Loonies will be portrayed in this movie. The cast he assembled is so talented. I'm glad he didn't go after A-List actors and went for more seasoned character actors or up and coming TV stars.
Yeah while back before Boyd Holbrook, Sterling K. Brown,Thomas Jane and Trevante got casted was nothing about people crying about getting the biggest A-List of a cast, sorry, but I'm happy with this one
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Quote from: MudButt on Jun 12, 2018, 10:54:06 PM
I feel very good about how the Loonies will be portrayed in this movie. The cast he assembled is so talented. I'm glad he didn't go after A-List actors and went for more seasoned character actors or up and coming TV stars.
Yeah while back before Boyd Holbrook, Sterling K. Brown,Thomas Jane and Trevante got casted was nothing about people crying about getting the biggest A-List of a cast, sorry, but I'm happy with this one
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To be fair, reports were put out there that Black was looking for some big stars to fill out the roles. And remember, Benicio was cast before he dropped out of the role. This led many to assume we were gonna be getting some big stars. However I am very happy with the cast we have. It's harder to imagine people like Matt Damon or The Rock become their characters when you only see the actor for stars of their level.
I've always wanted to see The Rock in a Predator movie.
"Semper Fi, motherf**ker!"
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Quote from: MudButt on Jun 12, 2018, 10:54:06 PM
I feel very good about how the Loonies will be portrayed in this movie. The cast he assembled is so talented. I'm glad he didn't go after A-List actors and went for more seasoned character actors or up and coming TV stars.
Yeah while back before Boyd Holbrook, Sterling K. Brown,Thomas Jane and Trevante got casted was nothing about people crying about getting the biggest A-List of a cast, sorry, but I'm happy with this one
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To be fair, reports were put out there that Black was looking for some big stars to fill out the roles. And remember, Benicio was cast before he dropped out of the role. This led many to assume we were gonna be getting some big stars. However I am very happy with the cast we have. It's harder to imagine people like Matt Damon or The Rock become their characters when you only see the actor for stars of their level.
Oh I remember, I aslo remember when James Franco was being rumored, Ben Affleck, (Tom Hardy was definitely being cast...smh), Del Toro had to back out due to his schedule, oh and let's not forget all the rumors of The Rock, like you I'm happy with the cast and I'm stoked for this movie
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I really can't picture Benicio as McKenna based on how he's written in the draft. Holbrook really seems to be a good fit.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 13, 2018, 12:08:19 AM
I really can't picture Benicio as McKenna based on how he's written in the draft. Holbrook really seems to be a good fit.
Yeah after I read the leaked script I couldn't picture Del Toro as McKenna
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Yeah I'm actually really excited about the casting as well. Seems like they're a fun crew and I already think this movie will be better than Predators because of the actors involved (as well as the risky writing). The loonies idea seems fun and unique. Thomas Jane I'm looking forward to the most but I'm loving Holbrook's lines and presence in the trailers, I feel like they made a great decision with him as the lead.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 13, 2018, 12:15:43 AM
Yeah I'm actually really excited about the casting as well. Seems like they're a fun crew and I already think this movie will be better than Predators because of the actors involved (as well as the risky writing). The loonies idea seems fun and unique. Thomas Jane I'm looking forward to the most but I'm loving Holbrook's lines and presence in the trailers, I feel like they made a great decision with him as the lead.
I almost wonder if that script was leaked on purpose at times to piss off some of the die-hard Predator fans
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Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jun 13, 2018, 12:18:45 AM
I almost wonder if that script was leaked on purpose at times to piss off some of the die-hard Predator fans
Yeah, because generating negative buzz about your movie is always a good idea.
Reynolds leaked the script and test footage of Deadpool to embarass Fox into action and to get a grass roots hype machine going. It worked
big time.
I see no gain in trying "to piss off some of the die-hard Predator fans." That's your core audience. The long time fans who spend money on Predator merch, see the movie five times, and buy the dvd, blu-ray, streaming edition, the digital deluxe supreme ultra edition, the figures, hats, t-shirts.
So no, I
doubt that. Leaked intentionally to get some feelers from their audience? Sure, that happens, but they wouldn't do it just to piss off their audience. You know why? Also it wasn't a widespread leak. It's only been a small group of people who have read it at this point.
Honestly, considering how long it took for me to get my hands on the script (and I'm somewhat connected), I doubt it was on purpose or it would have gotten out faster.
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Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jun 13, 2018, 12:18:45 AM
I almost wonder if that script was leaked on purpose at times to piss off some of the die-hard Predator fans
Yeah, because generating negative buzz about your movie is always a good idea.
Reynolds leaked the script and test footage of Deadpool to embarass Fox into action and to get a grass roots hype machine going. It worked big time.
I see no gain in trying "to piss off some of the die-hard Predator fans." That's your core audience. The long time fans who spend money on Predator merch, see the movie five times, and buy the dvd, blu-ray, streaming edition, the digital deluxe supreme ultra edition, the figures, hats, t-shirts.
So no, I doubt that. Leaked intentionally to get some feelers from their audience? Sure, that happens, but they wouldn't do it just to piss off their audience. You know why? Also it wasn't a widespread leak. It's only been a small group of people who have read it at this point.
But to be honest, I see Shane being a smartass once in awhile on Twitter towards people making comments about the movie and franchise.
I was told by someone involved in the movie that we haven't see nothing yet and that was right after the first trailer.
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Quote from: MudButt on Jun 12, 2018, 10:54:06 PM
I feel very good about how the Loonies will be portrayed in this movie. The cast he assembled is so talented. I'm glad he didn't go after A-List actors and went for more seasoned character actors or up and coming TV stars.
Yeah while back before Boyd Holbrook, Sterling K. Brown,Thomas Jane and Trevante got casted was nothing about people crying about getting the biggest A-List of a cast, sorry, but I'm happy with this one
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To be fair, reports were put out there that Black was looking for some big stars to fill out the roles. And remember, Benicio was cast before he dropped out of the role. This led many to assume we were gonna be getting some big stars. However I am very happy with the cast we have. It's harder to imagine people like Matt Damon or The Rock become their characters when you only see the actor for stars of their level.
Oh I remember, I aslo remember when James Franco was being rumored, Ben Affleck, (Tom Hardy was definitely being cast...smh), Del Toro had to back out due to his schedule, oh and let's not forget all the rumors of The Rock, like you I'm happy with the cast and I'm stoked for this movie
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I actually would've been content with all of those choices. Not that I mind going the non-A list route, but getting a big name actor or several could have added a little more oomph. That being said, I'm totally fine with Holbrook, I'm happy with what I've seen so far in the trailer/teaser and much of the casting in general.
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jun 13, 2018, 12:45:41 AM
But to be honest, I see Shane being a smartass once in awhile on Twitter towards people making comments about the movie and franchise.
Being a smart ass is one thing. Being passive aggressive to your audience is another.
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jun 13, 2018, 12:45:41 AM
I was told by someone involved in the movie that we haven't see nothing yet and that was right after the first trailer.
What's this person's connection to the film?
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Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jun 13, 2018, 12:45:41 AM
But to be honest, I see Shane being a smartass once in awhile on Twitter towards people making comments about the movie and franchise.
Being a smart ass is one thing. Being passive aggressive to your audience is another.
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Jun 13, 2018, 12:45:41 AM
I was told by someone involved in the movie that we haven't see nothing yet and that was right after the first trailer.
What's this person's connection to the film?
I don't wanna say, I'm pretty sure they have seen this site before
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Quote from: PredBabe on Jun 13, 2018, 12:15:43 AM
Yeah I'm actually really excited about the casting as well. Seems like they're a fun crew and I already think this movie will be better than Predators because of the actors involved (as well as the risky writing). The loonies idea seems fun and unique. Thomas Jane I'm looking forward to the most but I'm loving Holbrook's lines and presence in the trailers, I feel like they made a great decision with him as the lead.
I havent read the leaked script, so could someone explain what the whole loonies thing is?
It's what the soldiers call themselves. (Holbrook, Jane, KMK, Alfie Allen, Trevante Rhodes, and Augosto Aguilera's characters.)
It also acts as an homage/nod of sorts to "The Goonies."
another question. So Holbrooks character is the sole survivor of a team that first encounters the captured but then he meets the rest of the loonies (this is an impression I am getting from the trailers) how do the rest of the loonies get drag into the conflict.
Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 13, 2018, 07:10:48 AM
another question. So Holbrooks character is the sole survivor of a team that first encounters the captured but then he meets the rest of the loonies (this is an impression I am getting from the trailers) how do the rest of the loonies get drag into the conflict.
You won't believe it: he tells his story them in the bus and the Loonies start to believe him.
That's all. :D
The impression I get from the trailer seeing as how they are all dressed the same in the clip where Mckenna tells them about the alien and a bit later when the guy in the red shirt gets pulled out through the rear window of the bus by a predator is, that there's more than plenty of good reason for them to accept Mckenna's story.
Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 13, 2018, 06:26:18 AM
I havent read the leaked script, so could someone explain what the whole loonies thing is?
Quote from: MudButt on Jun 13, 2018, 06:30:51 AM
It's what the soldiers call themselves. (Holbrook, Jane, KMK, Alfie Allen, Trevante Rhodes, and Augosto Aguilera's characters.)
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 13, 2018, 06:33:38 AM
It also acts as an homage/nod of sorts to "The Goonies."
They're ex-military suffering from mental health issues, so that is why it makes sense too.
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Quote from: frenchfries on Jun 13, 2018, 06:26:18 AM
I havent read the leaked script, so could someone explain what the whole loonies thing is?
Quote from: MudButt on Jun 13, 2018, 06:30:51 AM
It's what the soldiers call themselves. (Holbrook, Jane, KMK, Alfie Allen, Trevante Rhodes, and Augosto Aguilera's characters.)
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 13, 2018, 06:33:38 AM
It also acts as an homage/nod of sorts to "The Goonies."
They're ex-military suffering from mental health issues, so that is why it makes sense too.
So the predators hunting disabled vets? yikes.
None of them are physically disabled, they suffer from PTSD mostly. The only ones who appear to be suffering the most from PTSD are Coyle and Baxley. (Thomas Jane and Keegan's characters).
I hope they do more with it though. They're just portrayed as these crackpot soldiers who laugh and crack jokes. It would be interesting if they do a little more with the PTSD element while they engage in battle against the Predators.
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During that big final battle too. You could have all kinds of stuff going on with the Loonies in terms of seeing things, or suffering the shakes or breaking down, relieving what they experienced. Over come the monsters of their own personal demons.
I would be nice get finally get an official version of the 2nd trailer in proper HD instead of the crap quality one that's available now.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 14, 2018, 01:09:28 AM
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During that big final battle too. You could have all kinds of stuff going on with the Loonies in terms of seeing things, or suffering the shakes or breaking down, relieving what they experienced. Over come the monsters of their own personal demons.
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Exactly. Hell maybe it could even lead to one or two of their deaths because they get such bad anxiety or flashbacks to whatever screwed then up to begin with. That could be some pretty powerful stuff.
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I would be nice get finally get an official version of the 2nd trailer in proper HD instead of the crap quality one that's available now.
See, it's not even right to call this "second trailer' a trailer. It's not, really. It's a TV spot, and from what Hicks said, it's exclusive to the NBA event so we won't be getting another version of it until maybe the blu-ray release as an extra feature.
I gotta imagine the next true trailer is on the way pretty soon though.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 13, 2018, 07:45:05 PM
So the predators hunting disabled vets? yikes.
Mental illness is absolutely not synonymous with mental disability.
Mac is one of my favorite characters and I'd consider him mentally unhinged after Blain died, exhibiting signs of detachment, agitation/irritability, self-destructive behavior, possibly insomnia (all signs of ptsd).
I thought his dynamic with the group plus his ultimate fate was incredibly interesting to see unfold.
Seeing a couple of characters with similar traits funneled through different personalities is interesting to me, so I'm looking forward to it 👍
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 14, 2018, 03:57:26 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 13, 2018, 07:45:05 PM
So the predators hunting disabled vets? yikes.
Mental illness is absolutely not synonymous with mental disability.
Mac is one of my favorite characters and I'd consider him mentally unhinged after Blain died, exhibiting signs of detachment, agitation/irritability, self-destructive behavior, possibly insomnia (all signs of ptsd).
I thought his dynamic with the group plus his ultimate fate was incredibly interesting to see unfold.
Seeing a couple of characters with similar traits funneled through different personalities is interesting to me, so I'm looking forward to it 👍
Agreed and good points.
They seem to be keeping any footage of Thomas Jane from the trailers kind of makes me wonder what they have up their sleeve with him, especially if his character is supposed to be the most unhinged.
I'm sure we'll get more of the Loonies in the next trailer. However the star of the movie is The Predator so they'll probably focus on the aliens in marketing and we'll get plenty of great moments in the film once it's released. Unless they ruin everything in the trailers.
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Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 14, 2018, 03:57:26 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 13, 2018, 07:45:05 PM
So the predators hunting disabled vets? yikes.
Mental illness is absolutely not synonymous with mental disability.
Mac is one of my favorite characters and I'd consider him mentally unhinged after Blain died, exhibiting signs of detachment, agitation/irritability, self-destructive behavior, possibly insomnia (all signs of ptsd).
I thought his dynamic with the group plus his ultimate fate was incredibly interesting to see unfold.
Seeing a couple of characters with similar traits funneled through different personalities is interesting to me, so I'm looking forward to it 👍
Agreed and good points.
They seem to be keeping any footage of Thomas Jane from the trailers kind of makes me wonder what they have up their sleeve with him, especially if his character is supposed to be the most unhinged.
He's supposed to have tourette syndrome, i wonder if they will use this aspect to some comedic ends with his character, that wouldn't surprise me with Shane Black. Also he's supposed to be an alien conspirationist of some sort lol, while his buddy Keegan Michael Key is a sceptic. I can't wait to see the dynamic between the two, one of Black's trademarks !
Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 14, 2018, 03:57:26 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 13, 2018, 07:45:05 PM
So the predators hunting disabled vets? yikes.
Mental illness is absolutely not synonymous with mental disability.
Mac is one of my favorite characters and I'd consider him mentally unhinged after Blain died, exhibiting signs of detachment, agitation/irritability, self-destructive behavior, possibly insomnia (all signs of ptsd).
I thought his dynamic with the group plus his ultimate fate was incredibly interesting to see unfold.
Seeing a couple of characters with similar traits funneled through different personalities is interesting to me, so I'm looking forward to it 👍
I think the most interesting thing about this movie will definitely be how the ensemble works together, especially the Loonies. Hopefully they won't go the cliche route of portraying psych as "oh, everyone has poor impulse control and is loud" etc, etc. That would be disappointing :-\
I bought one of these guys off of ebay for ten bucks.
(https://i.imgur.com/1SYJvQm.jpg)
It came in a little envelop. I pulled out my box cutter, and started to open it. Suddenly I was having The Predator Teaser flashes in my head.
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Quote from: Hollywood on Jun 14, 2018, 03:57:26 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jun 13, 2018, 07:45:05 PM
So the predators hunting disabled vets? yikes.
Mental illness is absolutely not synonymous with mental disability.
Mac is one of my favorite characters and I'd consider him mentally unhinged after Blain died, exhibiting signs of detachment, agitation/irritability, self-destructive behavior, possibly insomnia (all signs of ptsd).
I thought his dynamic with the group plus his ultimate fate was incredibly interesting to see unfold.
Seeing a couple of characters with similar traits funneled through different personalities is interesting to me, so I'm looking forward to it 👍
Agreed and good points.
They seem to be keeping any footage of Thomas Jane from the trailers kind of makes me wonder what they have up their sleeve with him, especially if his character is supposed to be the most unhinged.
He's supposed to have tourette syndrome, i wonder if they will use this aspect to some comedic ends with his character, that wouldn't surprise me witih Shane Black. Also he's supposed to be an alien conspirationist of some sort lol, while his buddy Keegan Michael Key is a sceptic. I can't wait to see the dynamic between the two, one of Black's trademarks !
Tourettes? I look forward to hearing some absurd, Eric Cartman like comments coming from his mouth then! Then I hope a Predator mimics him. ;D
This is not going to be a good movie.
Quote from: Not a good movie on Jun 25, 2018, 07:09:57 PM
This is not going to be a good movie.
Make another account called "I have a bad feeling about this", maybe it'll work.
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Quote from: Not a good movie on Jun 25, 2018, 07:09:57 PM
This is not going to be a good movie.
Make another account called "I have a bad feeling about this", maybe it'll work.
Hahahahahahahahahaha !
What's the name of the song in this trailer by the way?
Quote from: TheLoneRanger on Jun 29, 2018, 09:16:06 PM
What's the name of the song in this trailer by the way?
Masters Off War- Bob Dylan