unimpressed
Why they did not made this in the first place.
Concept would have been too cool to put into a crappy movie like this. The concept art leaves a lot to be desired, but I like the idea.
Amalgamated Dynamics are a talented studio and I really like Tom Woodruff's work as a sculptor and suit performer, as this video attests.
Even in the lesser ALIEN movies I like his practical ALIEN effects, AVP-R being my favourite. Heck even the most critical DVD reviewers called AVP-R trash but gave the extras disc with Tom Woodruffs work a 5/5 review.
But these predator hybridizations concepts are just run of the mill stock to me.
Videogames design as padding yes, trying to upstage the classic predator design no.
I Like the concepts. It looks like they tried to create some other species from the predator homeworld. But I think they would fit more in a Predators Sequel on one of their hunting planets. It would be nice to see other species hunt down by predators.
I love that they didn't go down the dredds and mandibles on everything route. That was what I had been scared of. But from the sounds of it, that wasn't the mandate. These were the creatures the Predator had been harvesting from, not experimenting on.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BroZVPuljuL/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Brjjeg7lDvi/
Some commentary on some of the designs seen in the video.
One of Kyle's concepts for the Hound >
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/014/729/081/large/daniel-edery-asc-predator-huntingdog-v09-01-22-16.jpg?1545202939)
QuoteSome unused artwork for The Predator. It was really exciting to get to work on this character!
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/w80arY
The first one from Michael Vince looks interesting.
And I really like the body of the last Hound. But that face...? I really detest this pred-creature hybrid concept. I feel like I'm back in the Ripley clone lab in Resurrection. Why Shane, why. :-[
Love all of the menagerie you posted,
aside from the last two hounds.
Even if they are experiments it still.mskes sense, all earth animals have pretty much the same skeleton just differnt proportions, I'd assume every animal on their home planet would have mandibles. They would have a 3volved from a comon ancestor.
Untrue.
Vertebrates and invertebrates exist for a start.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaw
If you go the scientific route, based upon what we know today-
No- it wouldn't make sense; because in nature there's hardly even two arthropods that possess similar mandibles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandible_(arthropod_mouthpart)
So even if you want to make the argument that the mandibles make sense because they evolved on the same world-
Fair enough, but then just like animals on Earth you'd also have to concede then logically the mandibles would look completely different;
because both would utilize them in completely different ways- as arthropods do, or even mammals.
They would absolutely not look nearly identical as the last two artworks show.
The wasted potential of this film is just astonishing :'(
Indeed.
The script doesn't match
the scope of the concept art.
Quote from: The Old One on Dec 21, 2018, 11:58:08 PM
Indeed.
The script doesn't match
the scope of the concept art.
They never do.
They dumb it down so much every time.
Some scorpion, some spider and some tick. Cool, but where is skull to collect?
I'm so glad they stuck with what they used in the film, the film was bad enough this concept would have made it laughable
As critter designs, a lot of these menagerie creatures had potential. The spider looks good. As a matter of tactics, the scorpion tail might work better slung over the top, but ok. How big was this supposed to be?
The Predator Spider makes sense because did you know that spider's are the fiercest killers in the insect kingdom?
If they were really looking to break that billion dollar mark, they should have included a fight scene between a Predator and a polar bear.
this is just stupid. I would have walked out of the movie if they had this in it. f**king hate spiders.
Most of the hybrid concept art is actually worse than what we got in the film. I'd understand if a Predator Clan were to upgrade themselves, But I'm lead to believe that not only are all the Predators trying to upgrade themselves, but their pets as well? Spiders, Monkeys, and of course the dogs from the film are all just hybrids. It's just dumb at least for me.
What about a Meerkat hybrid.
The last two
hound designs are stupid;
& The Official
"The Predator" Hounds.
The rest are convincing and
I could easily see roaming
a game preserve.
Hybridisation itself is
a tired stupid concept.
As designs on their own-
the rest is excellent.
I actually love this Spider Hybrid design. It would have been really creepy onscreen especially during the Night Time Battle Version
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Dec 31, 2018, 02:24:51 PM
I actually love this Spider Hybrid design. It would have been really creepy onscreen especially during the Night Time Battle Version
I like it as it's own thing, just not convinced it's fitting for a Predator movie, even if it's other-worldly hunting imo.
I just want to see the creatures and the fight that was filmed.
Good lord... that's nightmare fuel lol
That's why it's rad.
Quote from: HashTag_TheSwag on Dec 30, 2018, 09:41:48 PM
The Predator Spider makes sense because did you know that spider's are the fiercest killers in the insect kingdom?
If they were really looking to break that billion dollar mark, they should have included a fight scene between a Predator and a polar bear.
I got this 8) ;D
Looks like something from The Mist.
Boooooooo. Everything from Predator World except for the Predator should have been cute and cuddly. That would help explain why the predators hunt on alien worlds.
The Spider-Predator hybrids were the only hybrids I would have liked to have seen in the movie, but this pretty cool. Maybe even a little better than the spiders even.
I like that on it's own.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jan 06, 2019, 10:55:45 PM
Boooooooo. Everything from Predator World except for the Predator should have been cute and cuddly. That would help explain why the predators hunt on alien worlds.
For all we know, that's true. Could be the Preds themselves were cute and cuddly until someone or something tampered with them. For all the material that emerged over the years, from what I can tell, the Predators remain somewhat mysterious.
Eh, still don't think they're that good, just can't take the idea seriously.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 06, 2019, 04:29:22 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsRSqKoHmCF/
I don't think it belongs in the setting of The Predator, but it's totally terrifying. Honestly I could totally see it being a species on a colony world that the USCM may have had to wipe out.
Its just slightly unbelievable, even for Predator lore, that every creature in their homeworld has to have mandibles to show "hey these guys are from Predator homeworld, see the mandibles show it".
getting weird star ship trooper vibes because the mouth...
That's kind of like saying its weird and unbelievable that most animals on Earth has four limbs and an internal skeleton. There are exceptions sure, cephalopods and insects but reptiles, mammals, birds and amphibians all have four limbs and internal skeletons. Once life on a planet finds something that works, it sticks with it. If mandibles had evolved early enough in the development of life on Planet Predator than yeah, they're probably pretty common on that planet.
Of course, "most " animals on Earth dont have four limbs and a skeleton, I misspoke (typed) but they're ubiquitous among higher animals.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 11, 2019, 02:05:07 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsWkYKyldmE/
Getting closer to "thing" territory. The design from Predators is still the most sound, in my opinion.
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Jan 07, 2019, 06:32:32 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 06, 2019, 04:29:22 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsRSqKoHmCF/
I don't think it belongs in the setting of The Predator, but it's totally terrifying.
Honestly I could totally see it being a species on a colony world that the USCM may have had to wipe out.
Agreed.
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 11, 2019, 07:47:49 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 11, 2019, 02:05:07 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsWkYKyldmE/
Getting closer to "thing" territory. The design from Predators is still the most sound, in my opinion.
Indeed.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2018, 10:35:00 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br-49YpnKXT/
You know what that is?
That is a nope.
A nope I don't want to ever see in the shower, or my bedroom.
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 12, 2019, 12:45:52 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2018, 10:35:00 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br-49YpnKXT/
You know what that is?
That is a nope.
A nope I don't want to ever see in the shower, or my bedroom.
Ah C'mon. These things crawl up through my air vents by the nest load during the summer months. You can take em'. Let me see that war face woman!
What would "last stand" Hudson think of such defeatist talk?
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 12, 2019, 02:12:10 AM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 12, 2019, 12:45:52 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2018, 10:35:00 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br-49YpnKXT/
You know what that is?
That is a nope.
A nope I don't want to ever see in the shower, or my bedroom.
Ah C'mon. These things crawl up through my air vents by the nest load during the summer months. You can take em'. Let me see that war face woman!
What would "last stand" Hudson think of such defeatist talk?
I would've run screaming out of the bathroom before pushing him in there. There's be no time for talk.
In total honesty, when William Hudson
remarks;
"Sir, is this going to be a stand up fight,
or another bug hunt?"
I can almost imagine he's referring
to something like this creature...
Credit; @JokersWarPig
Quote from: The Old One on Jan 12, 2019, 03:14:16 AM
In total honesty, when William Hudson
remarks;
"Sir, is this going to be a stand up fight,
or another bug hunt?"
I can almost imagine he's referring
to something like this creature...
Credit; @JokersWarPig
Bug hunt always just reminds me of its source i.e. Robert A. Heinlein's 'Starship Troopers'.
Doesn't seem to have been part of the menagerie as such but a mutated Predator gone wrong.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 13, 2019, 01:09:22 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsgN3Q4F3dT/
Doesn't seem to have been part of the menagerie as such but a mutated Predator gone wrong.
Looks like the Tank Flood Form from Halo 3
:o How is that thing even supposed to move?
More fun designs! I love the dog. The second hybrid beastie could be a Lovecraft monster or one of Barlowe's Extraterrestrials. I don't know what went wrong in production, but the artists did plenty of good work. :)
That Pred dog looks pretty cool actually
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 13, 2019, 01:09:22 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsgN3Q4F3dT/
Doesn't seem to have been part of the menagerie as such but a mutated Predator gone wrong.
Major "Cold Fear" vibes
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Jan 14, 2019, 03:43:14 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 13, 2019, 01:09:22 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsgN3Q4F3dT/
Doesn't seem to have been part of the menagerie as such but a mutated Predator gone wrong.
As silly as it sounds, this kind of pisses me off. I sort of felt for Fred Dekker when he told us about the amount of hate he got for trying to do something new with the predator, But this is just plain disrespectful.
I really don't even understand what's going on in that picture. But if they were going for "horrific", it certainly seems so.
It boggles the mind why they thought that predator dogs were a good idea. Number One it was already done in the previous movie (and better I might add)
Quote from: Bob on Jan 15, 2019, 03:58:13 AM
It boggles the mind why they thought that predator dogs were a good idea. Number One it was already done in the previous movie (and better I might add)
That was the least of their problems. What they gave us is an entire movie made up of all the bad ideas you could ever come up with. Glued together in a hodgepodge of visual misery, smeared in narrative poo, and garnished with two middle fingers.
Even this dog design would have been better than what they gave use in the film. At least this concept looks like an alien creature and not a pug dog with dreadlocks.
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 15, 2019, 07:09:15 AM
Quote from: Bob on Jan 15, 2019, 03:58:13 AM
It boggles the mind why they thought that predator dogs were a good idea. Number One it was already done in the previous movie (and better I might add)
That was the least of their problems. What they gave us is an entire movie made up of all the bad ideas you could ever come up with. Glued together in a hodgepodge of visual misery, smeared in narrative poo, and garnished with two middle fingers.
Good description.
https://twitter.com/KyleBrownDesign/status/1089336745689317377?s=19
Reminds me a lot of a rhinoceros. Kind of cute, in a strange way.
So it was a different Predator Hound concept:
(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/015/491/846/large/kyle-brown-pred-dog-final-1.jpg?1548552386)
QuotePredator Hound concept- early
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/3obZJY
That looks awful. Glad they didnt use that one. They should have just used the look from Predators
The film version's inferior though.
Everything about this movie from start to finish was just terrible and doomed from the start. Credit to the artists as they were only drawing what they had been told to draw.
Everything stems from that awful script that Fox OK'd!!!
Still better than Last Jedi. ;D
I would prefer more beastly looking predator dog then that cartoonish version that we eventually got.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 09, 2019, 07:54:56 PM
I would prefer more beastly looking predator dog then that cartoonish version that we eventually got.
Same. Definitely lacked ferocity. The concept art with hair on the head makes them look more comical imo.
Quote from: Wysps on Feb 09, 2019, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 09, 2019, 07:54:56 PM
I would prefer more beastly looking predator dog then that cartoonish version that we eventually got.
Same. Definitely lacked ferocity. The concept art with hair on the head makes them look more comical imo.
It almost looks like small dreads to be honest.
Designs don't matter when you are watching a comedy. They coulda came up with the most bad ass predator dog design the world has ever seen, but nobody's going to like it when the end product is a bad fan film.
Quote from: Highland on Feb 11, 2019, 11:39:28 AM
Designs don't matter when you are watching a comedy. They coulda came up with the most bad ass predator dog design the world has ever seen, but nobody's going to like it when the end product is a bad fan film.
Don't insult fan films like that! :D
I can't say every fan film is a masterpiece but compared to The Predator (Though it's not the worst thing I've ever seen it's the worst Predator film compared to even AVPR) They do better justice to the source material at the very least, and keep with the tone of a Predator movie. I seriously can't believe that this is how a big budget predator movie in the year 2018 comes out, A comedic over the top mess, that's all over the place. I'll tell you what I'd rather have a bunch of the fan films I've seen become canon over this one movie.
Agreed...