What's Wrong With AvP?

Started by overthere, Dec 05, 2015, 12:25:08 PM

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Scorpio

Scorpio

#240
That's your opinion.  The Queen fight is spectacular.  Great use of animatronics and cgi.  In Aliens, you can see that Ripley is just a doll in some shots (not hating on it, though).

SM

SM

#241
I don't have an issue with the special effects.  The Queen looks good, either puppet or CG - the way she moves doesn't.  The scene should've been the main event, and it was a let down after the promise of the first fight.

monkeylove

monkeylove

#242
Two sets of protagonists, leading to over-emphasis on action.

Scorpio

Scorpio

#243
Quote from: SM on Jul 10, 2017, 02:08:13 AM
I don't have an issue with the special effects.  The Queen looks good, either puppet or CG - the way she moves doesn't.  The scene should've been the main event, and it was a let down after the promise of the first fight.

You don't like the way it moves?  The Grid/Celtic fight, in some shots they look like men in suits.  And the fighting is like WWE sometimes. 

SM

SM

#244
I've already explained why I don't like how it moves and why the first fight it better.

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#245
Mind you the first fight could have been better than it was as it was basically a wrestling match, though there was a few good moments such as the acid spray.

Scorpio

Scorpio

#246
The first fight is good but it's not the main event.  It was building up to the Queen the whole movie.  You see the Queen waking up, then breaking free.  I would have liked to see an epic showdown between Grid and Scar, but that would just repeat what has gone before.  It's also copying what Aliens did with the Queen fight at the end.

SM

SM

#247
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jul 10, 2017, 11:40:21 AM
Mind you the first fight could have been better than it was as it was basically a wrestling match, though there was a few good moments such as the acid spray.

It could've been better certainly, but it's meant to be the entrĂ©e; not the main.  Which unfortunately is what happened.

Huntsman

Huntsman

#248
I liked that the Predator managed to compete with the Alien, but the biology of the Alien ensured its ultimate victory. Eg. successfully putting the Alien into a net, which is then melted by the acid.

HuDaFuK

HuDaFuK

#249
My only issue with that was, out of all of the kit he has, you'd expect the Predator's Wristblades to be proofed against acid. They're literally his fallback weapon, to have them melt when the Combistick doesn't seemed really dumb.

SiL

SiL

#250
They're meant to shoot the Aliens and go home. Melee weapons were presumably absolute last resort, and even then the spear was to be preferred over the blades. The blades had one good hit in them, which is pretty understandable considering if you're in a situation where that's all you've got left chances are one hit is all you'll have the opportunity to make (Celtic could've stabbed Grid in the head, for example.)

SM

SM

#251
The blades are the only things that are susceptible acid aren't they?  The spear and throwing star thingy don't seem to be affected.

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#252
The acid is able to damage their helmets to a small degree too.

SM

SM

#253
Ah yeah.  The armour too.

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#254
Quote from: Scorpio on Jul 11, 2017, 02:54:14 AM
It's also copying what Aliens did with the Queen fight at the end.

How so? I'm pretty sure Ripley never threw a shuriken at the Queen or impaled her with a tail spear or Combistick, she certainly didn't chain it to a water tower.
The only thing that is the same is that the Queen is once again the "final boss" of the film and is killed by the natural environment.

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