It’s not even been a month and it’s finally happened. The inevitable. Directorial debut for the Brothers Strause, AvP Requiem, has been nominated for two Razzie awards:
- Worst Excuse for a Horror Movie(which turns out to be a brand new category)
- Worst Prequel or Sequel
This years event marks the Razzie’s 28th. AvPR’s predecessor was also nominated for Worst Prequel or Sequel in 2005. If you fancy seeing the other nominees, check out the Razzie’s website. Thanks to Ja for the news.
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Ah, Fox will be proud...
lol avpr got super owned!!!! I knew it was gonna suck, but no one listened...
And rightfully so. "Ah, Fox will be proud..." Yeah, they just don't give a shit.
::) lol.
Okay thats taking it just a little too far. Now all the ppl that hate this film will never get off tehre periods
America sucks with movie awards >:D
Well well well, what else can there be to prove what ma and many others have sed? .... .. i guess we still dont know wat we're on about, we're just haterz ::)
This is probably the worst movie in both the Predator and Alien series. They got what was comin' to them.
::) = Worldwide: $95,615,215 ::) Doubt Fox care . Still not even final values yet >:(
Im sorry but AVP was worst in predator series. Yes AVP:R sucked as a movie but the characters were done the way they should be. Wasnt crazy about the aliens mouth now have a long jaw but other then that great job. Everyone knew the movie will suck and it was only up to how good the creatures looked. I really hope they still make predator 3 and just keep it a slow paced hunting movie.
This movie is not that bad.
It is not badly
In this nomination there is nothing bad. It too the award and honourable. It is the award simply joke, simply want that film has not passed not noticed. Stallone, whether that has deserved many Malines? Certainly is not present.
Spoon said: "Yes AVP:R sucked as a movie, but..." If AvP-R sucked as a movie, then it sucked.. period. Ya know.. since it is a MOVIE and nothing else.. ;) AvP > AvP-R any day of the week.
R.I.P original Franchise's
I give a sh*t! >:(
This movie was a disgrace and deserves those awards. In fact Salerno and the Strauses should also have been nominated for Razzies.
AVPR wasn't even a Straight up just horror movie ???
lol i love the razzies because the peeps on their also like the shit everyone else does from gone with the wind to the toxic avenger ,, before any bumnut pokes his oar in saying critics are always putting stuff down these guys like popcorn movies too and are open to all movies no doubt theyll rip into the new rambo film next n cloverfield(wich by the way is a very good movie just finished watching it and it rate,s higher above avp-r and cost measley amount of cash)see actors do make a movie watchable to the pillock waffling on about its a movie about wolf or whatever your calling it now Cloverfield opened in 3,411 theaters on January 18, 2008 and grossed a total of $16,930,000 on its opening day in the United States and Canada. It made $41,000,000 on its opening weekend, making it the most successful January release gross of all time Budget $25 million[4] Gross revenue $41 million (1/20/08).canada ,usa not bad doubled it money straight off and its not even been hocked around as much as avp-r avp-r Budget US$40,000,000 Gross revenue US$93,522,287 world wide
I just love all the excuses the fantards are making for AvP R. They actually think critics are in a global conspiracy to bring the movie down. Guess what: AvPR was trash. Pure trash. I don't need critics to tell me that. The direction, acting, writing, editing, and effects were bottom of the barrel. This should never have been released theatrically. And BTW, Cloverfield is getting good reviews. I couldn't care less about Rambo, it looks like a friggin joke. Stallone is washed up and the movie looks terrible.
remember when these films were nominated for academy awards and oscars?
very good comment Hicks. it's a shame FOX didnt treat these franchises with just a little more respect. i mean we're not talking about friday 13th or other crappy shockers,the first two alien films were absolute classics and the first PREDATOR was up there with them for my money,then along came the other 2 alien movies especially RESURECTION which had black humour in it for f'***s sakes! PREDATOR 2 was crap,AVP had a big budget but they f****d up with the script and director although it did have its good moments.the only way to save this franchise(if people have interest anymore) is to write a cracking PRED 3 script,hire a director who has a proven track record,give him a good budget,and FOX,DO NOT INTERFERE!! im sure ther are people out there who would be interested in a really good PREDATOR film cos i think the ALIEN franchise has worn a little thin now,unless they get CAMERON or SCOTT to write and direct.
Howells: How can you say Fox can't interfear, there the ones that hold it. Fox did the old ones, you think any other place wants these films?
Ha I told you it would get nominated. Yes believe it or not this movie is terrible.
Any smart Director shouldn't touch ANY of the Alien or Predator pictures now.
To Joker Yes, FOX is the owner of the Alien and Predator movies as much as any studio and its franchises. But there are cases that they have TOO much control. Alien, Aliens, Predator were great because great directors and writers had thier own original vision and the studio left them with their work. Now when it came to later sequels and the AVP films, FOX act like they were the brains and take prime credit for them selfs. And they believe on what ever they can think of is what's the best. They think small town US is a good idea to fix AVP from the source. AVP in space was where all the praise was, just set it there.
SHREK hahaha I told you we wouldnt need to retaliate, that the films awfulness would do that for us and by GOD WERE WE RIGHT! :D :D
Hmm, why, OK there are no story, but great visual efekts, i think FOX must do third part AVP ,but director must to be Andrerson Paul, and efekts Brothers Strause, it could be GREAT, FOX GIVE A CHANCE ;)
Goddamnit, why oh why couldnt Fox have gone with the damn comics, at least they have credibility unlike f**king suits who care about money. This is surely the final nail in the coffin for good.
AVP was a huge hit, despite smashing from critics and fans. They should've known that once you have a hit, expand from there to have the sequel overlap the original. Every other studio has done that to sequels. Spiderman 2, Terminator 2, etc. Taking the oppurtunity to put gloriusness with greatness.(in FOX's case, right the wrongs) But FOX could only think of reducing it to lowlife, trash that is force in your mouth. They olnly heard about some complaints about the PG-13 rating and think that's all that is needed to have a better film. PEOPLE, I NEVER IN ANY MEASURE FELL IN LOVE WITH THE ORIGINAL FILMS BECAUSE OF GORE!!!!!!!!! It was the atmosphere, suspense, characters, visuals(gore not included) that made me fell in love with them. That's what the other studios thought about when making those sequels. If all of you people think that seeing blood, pain, death, violence is only thing you care about and overlaps all that I said, you're deranged from what makes a film created in first place. It's the Story itself not the factors.
Right on Rob, we need a cohesive story with realistic characters and situations that wow you, not make you cringe.
As JC said, Alien was about horror, Aliens is about terror and there is a big difference between the two. JC was also an efx artist but he had a grand vision for the Alien universe and was widely received the world over. The Queen makes sense, a PredAlien seems feasible but theyre reproduction method does not work at all, shoving embryos down an already pregnant species throat? Did they do any biology at all? Ridly got the idea of the chestburster from a bug, James got the idea of the Queen from a bug, David got the idea of the dogburster from a dog which he thought the embryo alters its DNA structure to that of its host. How in the hell does a PredAlien manage to get embryos down hosts throats when it does not seem biology feasible??
*Biologically* feasible, my brain is smashed
So ... is anyone actually surprised by this? Anyone at all? Didn't think so.
How the hell do you even know how predators are born!? For all we know Predators are just one sex and maybe they just give birth at a time of their life. Maybe the males spread their seeds through the mouths to the opposite sex? You cant judge what you don't know. And im sorry but not being able to see an alien give a headbite or a predator blowing off a limb does give a different effect to the movie. You ever watch aliens and predator on TV? Yeah trust me its not the same. GOOD OLD CURSING is a blessing too. Realism is where its at.
Spoon there is a mythology about Pred society, do some digging and youll find it very interesting :)
Can you imagine how Ridley Scott and Cameron feel about their masterpieces being associated with two razzie nods? And McTiernan.....? And Winston....? God its kind of unbelievable just how blatently FOX have sold out eh? This film insulted my intelligence as an ordinary human being, nevermind as huge fan of these franchises...
All great things must come to an end...... :'( Dont get me wrong, I enjoyed the movie. But they must come to an end. And Hopefully this isn't it.
What we as a collective group should do is demand Fox up the ante with their next AvP movie, which will get made, lets all face it. AvPR made enough cash to ensure there will be a 2nd sequel. We must let them know and rising directors that we as fans of a terrific movie franchise want a movie on par with Alien, Aliens and Predator, not some gimmicky marketing ploy aimed at putting money into their wallets. The writers are striking for good reason. The very first time you saw Alien, Aliens or Predator you were immediately hooked, and why? Because you have something that is extraterrestrial and not just little green martians from mars using laser guns to take over the world, you have fully fleshed out EBE's that have crossed so many forms of media over the last 2 decades that if you mention the word AvP people will go nuts over. If you mention the AvP movies.....people will throw nuts at you. Go back to basics Fox and look at what made the original movies so damn good compared to the half assed shit youre pumping out now. N.B. Aliens was made for far less than what AvPR had. Think about that.
DECO lolz im not happy that weve been proven wright cuz i want the movies to be good but sum ppl here cant accept that this was a very poor movie and i agree with wat u sed about cameron and scott and stan winston....they must b seriously pissed off at wat hsa happend 2 their creations....
k i lied deco i am happy we were right hehe :P
I'm with you AvPvTerminator. I hope this isn't the end. I just wish someone would do a Predator movie right. AVP movies are more on the Predator movie track due to the perspectives and the alien skull in Predator 2. Can we get a good director, a bigger budget and a better script? There is so much potential. I was disappointed and embarrassed when I saw the movie.
I want AvP:R to take the worst excuse for a horror movie title, because it was just that! I still cant see how it was allocated a R rating! That movie is viewable as PG in my submission. Besides the crap that was AVPR the Predator did look pretty mean and some scenes he was in. the sewers scene comes to mind where he plants the lasers and has the map of the sewers flash in his mask - that was cool! Fox (as stated above) wont give a toss as to what happens from now on as they have made nearly 100mil from this pile of shait! Whats next for the destruction of the 2 biggest franchises aye CEO's? In addition - I think that the next AVP should be handed by the persons who made the fan film Alien vs. Batman vs. Predator! That 8+ minute fanfilm which features Aliens and Predators is better than the 90+ AVP and 80+ AVPR. Even S.E.E.D. HD is better! For the brothers strause - go back to recording music videos. If you do make another movie then I suggest it be a remake of Bambi or something. Im sure with a 40mil budget you can make that movie better....or can u?
That's too bad for the two directors I liked the movie. The first AVP is ok but this one was better in my opinion. Wolf is probably my favorite Predator so far it's just too bad he died.
Right on AvPR H8R
Major haters!! >:(
What?! >:( Come on! AVP-R was good.
It´s a Fox shame... Alien is one of the best movie ever, and now this...
Well deserved, however Hostel II, Daddy Day Camp or Capitivity is likely to win them.
Yes, FOX will be proud indeed, this was by far THE MOST grittiest and best avp film yet. The 'going back to the roots' feature is just so amazing it leaves you speechless. ::) I'll pick AvP over requiem anyday. :-*
i can't believe what i'm reading well... actually i can. so many people went into the theaters with such a negative mind towards this movie it's no wonder they were disappointed. if this had been the first AVP movie you'd all be tooting a very different horn. oh yeah then paul anderon's garbage would have been the next sequel and everyone would praise AVPR. ok it wasn't the incredibly deep AVP epic sequel we wanted. but since it's conception that was never what it was going to be. it was what it was. a very entertaining sequel to anderson's AVP. now we can look at Fox and truly demand our space epic with good reason... Because it's time. and don't think i don't understand everyone's anger towards this movie. but still it's an opinion and you need to respect everyone's, even mine.
This isn't a surprise at all for me. For all their fan references, they couldn't hide the fact that the basic premise was shoddy to begin with. I hope Rothman is enjoying his blood money right now.
I went into the theater expecting the movie to be much better than what I'd been reading about and hearing. I liked the first AVP despite the criticism. AVPR did not meet any of my expectations except one. The Wolf was not alien fodder like 2 of the 3 Predators in AVP. At least the Predator was portrayed as a capable fighter in this one.
AVPR was bad. In my Opinion Avp was far better even with its little errors.
At least in AVP the alien cannon is there, drones, warriors, pack leader, queen, eggs, hive, huggers, and egg sack ut in avp-r i feel like it was an aliens parody or something (avp was a predator parody if you want, but children loved the preds without question, so new fans and supporters are welcome),.. but anyways ui felt more epic the avp with the queen fight and the flashback in the pyramid stuff than a fight in a rooft and in the forest like a bad star wars fan film... anyways i get my fan-sarvice with the predator :) ... but this series need their dignity back!
They also nominated Hannibal Rising and Hostel: Part II. Hannibal wasn't THAT bad and Hostel II beat the hell out of the first one. I officially don't care about this news.
Who's watching the Australian Open? Bloody good match between Jankovic and Williams ;D
Was short but I like Jankovic lol ;D
An interesting development, that... Fox will care about this, as it get a lot of coverage ni the industry. Quite whether they decide to do something about it in the future, is anyone's guess, right now.
Yeah,America always give f**king awards .
First of all hostel 2 will win the award. That movies was the worst movie i have never watched the only part i like when she cut off his dick the rest is Garbage :o I know that AVPR didn't live up to everyones expectations. I believe it was because FOX gave a low budget to the brothers, if they had more money to play with they should have ended the movie like this: while WOLF and PREDALIEN were battling it out on the roof top they should have cut to a scene of a PREDATOR Ship dropping off at least half a dozen more Predators, then, cut to a scene of a swarm of Aliens tackling the national guard and innocent people like we saw in AVP, then a shot of the Predators that have just landed using their laser cannons to kill the swarm of Aliens and a few shots of the national guards shooting at both Aliens and Predators and basically just carnage everywhere. Then cut back to the roof top battle for some more fighting, then the Final blow the Predator gives the Predalien and vice versa and THEN the Government could have nuked the entire city. ;D Well in my opinion this is how it should have went down but FOX enjoys employing preschool script writers to save money :-\ BTW who's the idiot that decided to keep in the script the Predators Blue chemical liquid (MAJOR PLOT HOLE) ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
My Version Of AVPR Part 1 : Maybe if I was the writer of the movie it wouldn't be getting so much crap from people who claim to be fans but are really just big cry babies. The movie was good but not great could of been longer too. This is my version on how it would have been if I wrote it as a two hour movie. I would like to write this as a screenplay but since this message board is limited I'll do my best keep it simple. I'll just list it. 1. The story would kinda be like Resident Evil 3 and Resident Evil Outbreak file 1 and 2 but with aliens and predators ofcourse. 2. Besides Wolf there would be a second Predator named Blade. 3. Both Predators are not cleaners but actual hunters who still do the blue liquid and dispose the fallen ship but other then that are on earth for human skulls and avenging their fallen comrades by killing as aliens as possible. 4. Sherif Officers arrive on the streets in full force and battle the aliens head on but are eventually outnumbered and killed( R.E. 3 connection) 5. Some sherif's who remain in the station battle aliens trying to get in as they board up windows and fire their guns many men and women are killed.
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My Version Of AVPR part 2: Let's continue the list. 6. After the National Guard is wiped out which I would extend a bit more fighting like 60 or 70 seconds rather then 15 seconds, we get the Marines involved who take over trying to rescue whoever is still in need of help. 7. In the process of doing so the Marines come across many aliens and the two Predators. 8. Civilians are either flown out or driven out by. 9. The town is nuked by a launched missile from a missile silo rather then a F-22 Raptor ( R.E. 3 Connection) 10. The two Predators survive proving that when you f**k with their race they will f**k you back and not in the good way you pervs.
My Version Of AVPR part 3: Let's continue with a new list. 1. The only Characters from Shane's version would be the father and son hunters plus Dallas and Eddie that's it everybody else who cares. 2. There would be some Marine Characters like Dwayne who is big and tall and buff or Collin who is kinda short and not to tough looking but indeed he is and good with knifes. Collin is a cousin of Dutch from Predator but was never told about Predator only Dutch's brother was who you can read about in the two novels called Concrete Jungle and Cold War. 3. Like I said in part 1 the movie would be 2 hours, but maybe longer. 4. Light enough to see. 5. The PredAlien would not lay eggs just the face huggers. 6. The PredAlien will just be normal. 7. There would be like four or five aliens v.s. human fights. 8. There would be five alien v.s. predator fights including the end on the hospital roof. 9. And one big battle involving aliens, marines and the two predators in a huge fight to the death like no other we've seen. 10. The battle to number 9 would have tanks and rocket launchers and marine guys throwing grenades or walking around with flamethrowers or M16/Grenade Launchers.
My Version Of AVPR part 4: Let's move on. 1. There would be plenty of chest bursting and skinned bodies. 2. The Predators will work as a team mostly but at times be solo. 3. The Predators land on Earth in a small ship and cloak it. 4. The movie would be mean still with killing kids and eating babies and slaughtering pregnant woman plus a double head shot but instead of stoners we see two unlucky marine guys get their heads blown off. 5. An Elder Predator will be in the movie who witnesses the PredAlien's rampage on the smaller ship and has a predator meeting with Wolf and Blade who are preparing for a hunting ritual on earth who find out they can still do that but it must be in the area where the ship crashed but while their there dispose the ship and erase any tracks of aliens on Earth.
Well, that's a SHOCKER.
Some people a bunch a haters!!! But ya know what In the end its all about how much money it makes and its makin it$$$ WOOP! WOOP!
My Version of AVPR part 5: Almost done. 1. An Elder Predator watches the massacre unfold on the ship then has a meeting with Wolf and Blade who are preparing a hunting ritual on Earth but find out they must go the down ship's location and dispose it and erase any alien presence on Earth plus hunt down the PredAlien and bring it's head to me. That's what the Elder says but besides that Wolf and Blade are free to also hunt humans. 2. We see them take off which allows us to get to know Dallas and Eddie and Dwayne and Collin. 3. At night Wolf and Blade arrive find the ship destroy it alert the near by town and some ugly rednecks molesting some woman while drunk on booze and firing guns and lighting M80's. 4. We see the Wolf and Blade slaughter them and later see them skinned as Eddie and some other Sherif's stumble across some campground where men where having a wild drunk night. 5. A few other scenes go on before what I told you earlier.
My Version of AVPR part 6: Final part I promise. 1. Music score some old some new. 2. And yes TV news reporters would be seen covering the mayhem. So that's it I hope you guys liked my version of AVPR to bad it to that Shane punk instead. But maybe if I save my idea I can turn it into a novel some day but ofcourse I would have to make changes on Dallas and Eddie with new names unless Dwayne and Collin are the main guys. Tell me your thoughts on my six part version presentation is it, Great, Good, Bad, OK or so and so. ??? ;)
I hope this will be the reason to kick the Strauses out. f**king Alien Rapers. >:(
tony try writing it in the forum(thats why there there!!) NOT the chat log as my eye,s just glazed over and i ignored your posts >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D the bit i did get is somthing about wesly snipes showing up ::)
Bloody deserves to win both awards. Film was a pile of crap!
TONY: AVPR was a pile of shit and would still be shit even if it had all of your good ideas in it. THIS STORY WAS NEVER MEANT FOR EARTH!!! AVPR is the worst movie movie ive EVER seen....
im still amazed that despite all these facts and figures that proves AVP-R was a bad movie, sum little fanboys still call us haters wen we are telling the truth..... THIS WAS A VERY BAD MOVIE...im sorry 2 say
SHREK I know man its so ridiculous isnt it? Did I read somewhere in the comments over the last few news topics, that some fans were saying that the movie is so great, that the critics are conspiring to bring it down out of jealousy?!? :D Such fruitcakes!
Dude, i bet im your age and besides, everyone is so serious about their take on the whole franchise, we need to ease up a bit :D
Most admirable effort Strauss Brothers. Perhaps the two of you would like to come with me for a little chat, mainly about your lack of direction and AvP lore. Razzies you shall have.
Deco:Yes some of those people are fruit-cakes,but critics are idiots,just look at Ebert & Roeper,they listed SHOOT'EM UP as the 2nd worst film of 2007.Lets just face it,that movie is exactly like the name,its a shoot'em up,nothing more,nothing less,so i really enjoyed it.It would be like me going to see a film called ROMANTIC COMEDY and listing it as a flop because it was a romantic comedy!.I dont give a F**K what those morons think,the moment AVP-R comes in a UCE version i'm buying it!.Also,heres the poll for people who thought the movie was great:45.68 % (1370).I'm one of those people.F**K YOU CRITICS!!!!! >:( .PEACE DECO!!!. l..l_ ;D _l..l
erm.... lolz ive only justy noticed that voting pole........ok ZEN u no wat ur rite AVP-R was AMAZING!!!!!!! -__-
i watched a film called elephant and guess what it was crap no elephants in it same as one flew over the cuckoos nest no cannon firing clowns over tree,s what a bummer lol sarcasm for ya >:D
I agree this film is crap !!!!!!!!!!!!! >:D
I hate it when im wrong i was waiting for two months to see AVPR but it didn't turned out great. To my opinion it would had been great if AVPR was longer and had more facehuggers including a queen facehugger. they should had put more soldiers on this movie, so we can see how they died by the aliens. the predalien should have been more smarter as in using some of the predator's weapon they should have showed more aliens to get their ass kicked by the one predator. they should have also showed the aliens breaking the people's car for those who are trying to evacuate the town and killing men and taking more women to their hive. how do you think of my opinion
Rhey should of had a runner from the dog!
Thanks for your honesty Deco. I guess your right it should be in space only. Hopefully AVP 3 will be in space that's if it get's made.
Well gee Konradski I'd love to discuss this on a bigger area like the forums but they for some reason don't allow me to enter so Im stuck here with all yall. And yes I tried to register but they think Im 14 when Im 22 years old.
Thanks to those who read my 6 version presentation of AVPR if you haven't well it should be easy to find. Sorry if I repeat myself or if sentences are not written correctly but shit happens when you type fast.
Despite of me given the most obvious reason why AVPR is worst movie of either franchise, I still hear people given the thumbs up. It's the story itself (situations, setup, characters in it) that make a film made in the first place, not factors (sex, blood, action, cursing languague). I bet some of you people cheer your lungs out once blood is seen and boo the best actors and characters on film.
When it was all those better or worse Alien and Predator films. The focus was on the characters. How they got into the situtation and how they'll out. The interaction between themselves and the promblem(Alien and Predator) itself. It's how the Alien and Predator affects or effects them. Those two icons were the prime FACTOR of the story. Movies are bad (NO MATTER WHAT) when the characters and story become the FACTORS THEMSELVES. Charactes that are used only so they can display all the sex, language, violence that make the story INSTEAD.
In short: which is the better film to watch? A film about characters that features violence or a colaboration of violence that uses people as a reason or excuse to help display that violence? AVP and, even worse, AVPR are bad films PERIOD (NO JUSTIFICTATION) are that things that matter most , that the PURPOSE a story exists, are being TRASHED DOWN TO SHIT to only have factors , EXISTING ONLY WHEN A STORY AND IT CHARACTERS EXIST, could be put there with an excuse to EXIST AT ALL.
academy awards ARE oscars Hicks.
ZEN: I agree, some critics dont approach these movies the way they should. But even as a popcorn flick, even as a movie, this just takes the biscuit. I mean the script is non-sensical! Example: The sherif orders an evac on the town just because the lights go out everywhere. (Not really but since he called an evac not knowing what was going on, because he, nor anyone explained that aliens were overtaking the town, the lights going out was the only major event that caused panic) there were only 10 people or so who we saw being directly affected by the aliens - the evac would have been justified if we had news reports about dozens of people being killed off. I really hate that Predator and alien are associated with this movie. I AM A PROUD HATER OF THIS MOVIE purely because I AM A PROUD LOVER OF THE ORIGINALS. THis movie is truely a mess and AVP 1 is gold compared to this. Im serious, I actually see AVP1 in a whole different way now... (ITs still crap but my God, this movie is like an episode of Dawsons Creek) PS, I did like the scenes with the predator alone on screen
@tony dont forget to tick both the boxes on the signing up page one to say you are over 14 years of age ,and the agreement at the bottom if your not getting an email check your bulk folder and remember to set it accordingly ,ie if youve made changes to its function or switched it off still having issues ask admin ,
Don't worry that Gay"I know who killed me" will win it anyway :D
On the forum there is only two check boxes I see one that says I am 14 on top then the agree button. I don't know why joining certain things is so f**king hard these days I was lucky enough to join You Tube ok. All this email and password shit is pissing me off. I probably won't post any more versions of AVPR or future news I just wanted to share my ideas with all of you to see what you thought in comparison to Shane's script. But thanks anyway for trying to help me out. From now on I'll just post normal comments like the rest of you.
Man since when did I compare Academy awards to Oscars? ??? ???
Hey Tony nice post man, you've really got it nailed. From what I've read I take it you've researched a helluva lot and taken bits and pieces and formed a cohesive story. The bit that I find the most interesting is Dutch's cousin as you only heard about Dutch's brother in the comics. The emphasis on the marines also sounds more akin to the games and novels than anything else which would translate well to screen. Awesome job mate ;D ;D
Deco: The sheriff orderd the evac because the nuclear power-plants transformers were destroyed.
Thanks Hicks 0998 thanks for your honesty.
"The 'going back to the roots' feature is just so amazing it leaves you speechless" yeah really. it leaves us speechless - so dumb these "going backs" are, so far this "movie" is from originals. but it is right what comics-based universe deserves )
No worries Tony, do you think Predator 2 would've been alot better if they had stuck to the original comics and had Dutch's brother and partner? The comics were huge in their own right.
I never actually read the comics just the novels which I own along with Big Game even though it's not connected to the other two but maybe some day I will get the comics since Im more of a Predator fan. I thought Predator 2 was cool the way it was but yeah I think they should of had Dutch's brother and partner instead of Danny Glover. But I have to admit the scene at the end of Predator 2 is awesome with all the Predators and the Elder leader in their ship. If Predator 2 was called Concrete Jungle then Predator 3 could have been Cold War.
Deco: Its too bad you did'nt like the movie,but im not one of those freaks who go around trying to get people to like or not like a movie.I just make people look at the whole picture rather then just bits and peices and making up their own twisted logic for the movies/comics etc.What i liked about the movie was that the predator was'nt on a hunt,he was just cleaning up the mess.I imagen Wolf was thinking to himself "Oh great,those f**king bumb-a$$es let a predalien get loose,and now i have to clean it up,those morons." and to me it showed another aspect of predator life.The brothers did NOT break continuity with the aliens because in A2 there were only the drones and a queen.And as Tony would agree in the novel AVP:PREY Yeyinda said that in some cases a drone will turn into a queen if there are no hosts or a queen (if im remembering it right).And in the novelization of A3 it said that a drone can implant 1 embryo into a being to start a hive and 1 in 5000 is a queen,and if not the new drone can implant an embryo aswell.
Deco: And if one were to asume that the predalien were turning into a queen then it would make sense for it to lay more then just one egg with its inner mouth.And with the multiple chest bursters with the pregnant women,one can just asume its because of the emnionic fluid (I know i spelled it wrong).May i ask what you did'nt like about it? :) .
konradski: I was just using SHOOT'EM UP as an example because those idiots were bashing it because it was a shoot'em up!.I guess critics are'nt the only idiots........
Aliens and Predators...we had a good run, but now your requiem has been sung. Now we lay you down to rest, maybe you'll come back someday...let's hope for the best. :)
Yeah the comics were good and I highly recommend you read them as they're well crafted.
ZEN, Yeah the alien lifecycle doesnt really bother me. I dont want to press my opinion on anyone but I sure like ranting about how bad this movie is! (If someone takes it personally then they have a problem, not me. If I disagree with anyone on here I do it in a respectful way, afterall, we're all different) :D I just feel that Its just really bad film-making - The movies are going back in time and dropping in standard. I would love to see a Batman Begins of AVP (Speaking of Batman - poor Heath Ledger) - a total revamp, something new and something fresh because lets face it, no matter how many of the fans enjoyed watching the movie, it still is a terrible attempt at film-making and an insult to movies and to Hollywood. Now dont get me wrong, im not judging this out of its category, but I would rather watch sit through Alexander again than watch this movie for a second time. (Slight exaggeration) I just cant help tihnking about what watching a war between these races would be like... That is what should have been done a long time ago and trying to satisfy fans with low budget slasher movies, is just a shame. This franchise has suffered a bigger fall from grace than Britney Spears.
Deco couldn't agree more. JC was an efx artist just like the Strausses and yet he pulled it off brilliantly. His budget was far less than the brothers and you have to wonder why Fox still keeps churning out crap. Style over substance now; swearing, blood, gore, don't make a good movie. Atmosphere, setting, characterizing, dialogue; these are the things that make a good movie and combined with the aforementioned words make a great movie.
good for them its was a horrible movie and now make alien 5 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What was Alien 5 supposed to be about. Wasn't it supposed to have the aliens appear on Earth for the first time ever. I think it could still happen despite the AVP movies. I might be a huge Predator fan but I to like the alien series I even like A:3 and A:R. I think the aliens are cool but not like the predators and for alien fans who say that the aliens got raped in AVPR I say yeah so what the Predators got raped in the first one so shut up already cry babies. Predators rule and aliens drool ( alot by the way)
.What i liked about the movie was that the predator was'nt on a hunt,he was just cleaning up the mess but this is yet another issue i have with the film .yes i can sit back and let slight possibilitys and depending on film watched pass me by. but great stinking cock ups , as you have just pointed out annoy me heres why on destroying all evidence of the crash site and alien activity our cleaner wally then skins the patrol officer so why in chuffs name was he trying to cover it up if he , one our protagonist,s of the movie then starts leaving his own trail of alien activity I guess critics are'nt the only idiots........yes but their not blind either now come up with yet another explanation why he did what he did in the movie ,as to me if i was the sherif . i would now be looking around town for a murderer who,s just killed a cop which would have been a much more interesting running back storey an action always require,s a reaction
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Konradski/ Skinning the prey is breed into the beast. Predators have been doing that since day one. They do not think along the lines of human. ;D
HICKS Couldnt have said it better man...
Is it just me, or are the Razzies just a snarky excuse to rip on the big screen releases by major studios? The same movies keep appearing over and over in each of the nomination categories (Captivity, Norbit, I Know Who Killed Me, etc.) when we all know there's a whole treasure trove of fresh steaming shi*t being put out on DVD every day, also by the major studios. The Razzies were actually funny when they were creative; now they're just as tired as the establishment they claim to be criticizing. Besides, how can AVP:R get a Razzie nod when the latest Night of the Living Dead 3-D re-make crapfest didn't?
thus the wolf is not a cleaner . as his removing traces of another species encounter is flawed and his purpose is ironic "i say we take off n nuke the site from orbit,,its the only way to be sure" lol omg his plan is doomed to fail . in making sure no evidence of an alien encounter is found DOH !! dont you just hate it when somthing so small can unravel the reason a charachter is there . whether it is bred into them or not is that cannon then , predators having to skin everything they meet/prey upon also why is it mr n mrs strauss said his purpose wasnt the same as hunting . he was their to erase any trace,s of aliens not make new one,s also he would have skinned the other human encounters instead of blue liquiding them ?
The predator just killed the guy,and he probably thought "Well he ran faster then i expected,and i have a few minutes.....". And it does'nt take long to skin something,if you do it right then it will only take a few minutes.And have any of you ever heard of recon?.You go in,eccess the situation you go into the sewers .you see how far its spread."Oh hey,im a predator,whats that?.Aliens on earh?.Guess i better nuke em!.(3 years later).Ah shucks!.Its over-run with aliens hee-yuk!.".Wolf grabbed the ooze off the dead pred and used it for lots of stuff at first,then saw how far they had spread,and started using it on bigger stuff,then in the hospital he thought "Well,theres no point in using this,theres just too much!".And crammed the vial down the aliens throwt.And konradski,he did'nt kill those humans he liquified,so there would be no honor in taking a trophy.In my AVP omnibus Top-knot took most of the armor and left a predator to die on a planet because he took a trophy that was'nt his to take.And the xenomorphs are very dangerous bio-weapons,would you put your own species at risk to some short,pale wimpy humans?.No,youd destroy as much evidence as possible.You people are still thinking human.You need to start thinking cold-blooded killer with highly trained skills and a twisted sense of honor.Sorry you did'nt like the movie Deco.
Hey Deco hows your script going?.Mine failed because plot devices in mine are in the movie.I might be able to do P3,but its not looking good.From what i saw AVP-R should'nt mess up anything in yours,but i dont know how your script is working,i hope its doing well,im still interested in the whole conspericy thing with that guy you were telling me about ;D .
ZEN Hi there man, yeah I took a step back from my script as an AVP entity. I think mine would work far better as a Predator 3 story as it encompasses alot of the Predator characters - kind of ties their stories up rather well - WAS THEIR ENCOUNTER WITH PREDATORS REALLY A COINCIDENCE??? (not in my story they werent!). Anyway Ive decided to tackle a different AVP. I am re-writing the rules. Doing a Batman begins of AVP if you will. I am writing it as if none of the other movies/stories exist. Its coming along well.... It includes many huge wars. But I woiuld like to think the small human part is going to be solid, interesting, and a totally different take on how the humans should play their part in an AVP story. :-)
The skinned bodies was a homage to the other Predator movies and probably put there so all dumb complainers don't bitch about not having skinned bodies again just like the first AVP. Seriously stop your bitching and grow up. A real fan like myself enjoys what a AVP movie has to offer. Are you guys real fans or do you just come here to sound cool. Let the aliens and predators kill who they want.
I don't get how they never used the legendary Elderpredator, I'm talking from P2, not that stupid cape wearing one in avp.
this movie is not THAT bad. people seem to take things to a rediculous level nowadays in this country. overreacting to everything.
This movie IS THAT BAD in my opinion...
Sadly to say I think the movie earned the razzie :-\
Deco:Sounds cool dude!. l..l_ ;D _l..l
What? They pick AVP R (which was good) insted of Spider Man 3? Razzies or what ever is your name, get good judges. Dums. >:(
:) I came to see a Predator kick ass. And that's what i got. There are far worst films out there than this one, really.
AvP:R was a hell of alot better than AvP. The Aliens weren't perfect but pretty dam close to the ones in Aliens, and the wolf Predator was one of the best yet. If we could forget Alien 3, Ressurection, Predator 2 and AvP, the franchies would be in a lot better shape. No this AvP wasn't the best and could of been better, but it wasn't that bad ethier. The use of the old rubber suit for the Alien wins over CGI any day and that was the problem with the last 2 Alien films bad script and to much CGI. If they do another AvP they need to tie it into the first two Alien films some how,. and interduce the space jockey at some point and bring back a bader Queen Alien. Theres still a lot of life left in the franchies we just need a good script and directors.