Jake Busey has revealed some interesting things about
The Predator in an interview with MEAWW:
About Jake being asked to appear in 'The Predator':
- JAKE: "I am really fortunate that the director asked for me to do it because he wanted to have a referential moment and integrate Predator 2 with The Predator. But in the end, they cut all my interesting stuff and most importantly the references to my dad."
Apparently the filmed tribute scene Jake was referring to is a picture of his father Gary Busey as Peter Keyes, appearing on the tablet Casey was swiping in the lab, followed by Traeger calling Peter "
One of the founders of the Stargate." *I assume he meant Stargazer
- JAKE: "It was the moment in the lab when she looks at the picture of my dad, as Peter Keyes, and then looks up at me, and gets this look of recognition on her face. The audience would have gotten to see my dad and me in the same frame and the tongue in cheek aspect of it, that both of us were of the same age when we filmed the Predator movies. The reason why they cut it all out is because (the studio) did not understand how cool it was."
About another cut scene:
- JAKE: "You know in the decontamination chamber, where Olivia and I go right after her character is introduced, I just had a fun moment where I pretended I was getting electrocuted, like I just go into convulsions and waved my arms around; it was a funny moment where the crew members laughed and scared the crap out of Olivia. It was really a funny moment and the audience applauded, but the scene was cut."
And here's a strange comment about Olivia Munn demanding extra money for going topless in the decontamination scene, yet she didn't appear topless in the movie.
- JAKE: "She decided she wanted $22,000 out of the blue. You know, for doing something that was in the script from the beginning".
Here's a link to the interview:
https://meaww.com/jake-busey-tribute-to-gary-busey-deleted-in-predator-predator-2
*Edit
I think his character could have been interesting but he disappears as soon as the Predator escapes. And unlike Traegar, Keyes seemed sympathetic and more decent compared to him.
The more I hear about this movie the more I want to see it untrammelled by the studio. They really botched this. I don't think the film would've been great but all I needed was some fun along with interesting lore.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 28, 2019, 04:37:48 PM
And unlike Traegar, Keyes seemed sympathetic and more decent compared to him.
Noticed that too, and was annoyed when Keyes vanished.
Agreed. Another missed opportunity. Jake was definitely underused. The whole frick'n movie should have taken place in the Stargazer complex if you'd ask me! >:(
A waste.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 28, 2019, 04:37:48 PM
I think his character could have been interesting but he disappears as soon as the Predator escapes. And unlike Traegar, Keyes seemed sympathetic and more decent compared to him.
I had figured his disappearance was more a way of setting him up for a larger role in a potential sequel, as I didn't remember him being offed in the script. Sucks though :-\ I wish they could have given him a larger role in the movie.
He was a different Doctor in the script and I'm pretty sure he gets offed.
Coldwell IIRC. He was beheaded with scalpel.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 28, 2019, 04:34:56 PM
Jake Busey has revealed some interesting things about The Predator in an interview with MEAWW:
About Jake being asked to appear in 'The Predator':
- JAKE: "I am really fortunate that the director asked for me to do it because he wanted to have a referential moment and integrate Predator 2 with The Predator. But in the end, they cut all my interesting stuff and most importantly the references to my dad."
Apparently the filmed tribute scene Jake was referring to is a picture of his father Gary Busey as Peter Keyes, appearing on the tablet Casey was swiping in the lab, followed by Traeger calling Peter "One of the founders of the Stargate." *I assume he meant Stargazer
- JAKE: "It was the moment in the lab when she looks at the picture of my dad, as Peter Keyes, and then looks up at me, and gets this look of recognition on her face. The audience would have gotten to see my dad and me in the same frame and the tongue in cheek aspect of it, that both of us were of the same age when we filmed the Predator movies. The reason why they cut it all out is because (the studio) did not understand how cool it was."
That would have been really cool. Too bad they cut it out. Maybe they'll put it back in a future Blu-ray release.
Quote from: Master on Jan 28, 2019, 08:04:14 PM
Coldwell IIRC. He was beheaded with scalpel.
They changed that in the movie. His name now is Church, Thomas J. and played by a different scientist.
Yeah, more Keyes would have been awesome.
Quote from: OWLF on Jan 28, 2019, 08:25:15 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 28, 2019, 04:34:56 PM
Jake Busey has revealed some interesting things about The Predator in an interview with MEAWW:
About Jake being asked to appear in 'The Predator':
- JAKE: "I am really fortunate that the director asked for me to do it because he wanted to have a referential moment and integrate Predator 2 with The Predator. But in the end, they cut all my interesting stuff and most importantly the references to my dad."
Apparently the filmed tribute scene Jake was referring to is a picture of his father Gary Busey as Peter Keyes, appearing on the tablet Casey was swiping in the lab, followed by Traeger calling Peter "One of the founders of the Stargate." *I assume he meant Stargazer
- JAKE: "It was the moment in the lab when she looks at the picture of my dad, as Peter Keyes, and then looks up at me, and gets this look of recognition on her face. The audience would have gotten to see my dad and me in the same frame and the tongue in cheek aspect of it, that both of us were of the same age when we filmed the Predator movies. The reason why they cut it all out is because (the studio) did not understand how cool it was."
That would have been really cool. Too bad they cut it out. Maybe they'll put it back in a future Blu-ray release.
Quote from: Master on Jan 28, 2019, 08:04:14 PM
Coldwell IIRC. He was beheaded with scalpel.
They changed that in the movie. His name now is Church, Thomas J. and played by a different scientist.
Not sure if it's Church's hand fugitive is using in the movie though.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 28, 2019, 09:28:18 PM
Not sure if it's Church's hand fugitive is using in the movie though.
Fugitive mimics Church, Thomas J. voice a couple of times before entering the decontamination zone though. Also a very brief scene right before the lab break out shows a scientist placing his hand on a security scanner and saying "Church, Thomas J."
Quote from: OWLF on Jan 28, 2019, 10:48:31 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 28, 2019, 09:28:18 PM
Not sure if it's Church's hand fugitive is using in the movie though.
Fugitive mimics Church, Thomas J. voice a couple of times before entering the decontamination zone though. Also a very brief scene right before the lab break out shows a scientist placing his hand on a security scanner and saying "Church, Thomas J."
Oh yeah you're right, forgot about that ! ;D
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 29, 2019, 01:50:22 PM
Oh yeah you're right, forgot about that ! ;D
No problem. Yeah it's really a quick scene, blink and you'll miss it. Like Jake Busey getting hit by a stray bullet in the background :laugh:
Millions for reshoots, but they can't spare 22g's for some breasts.
This movie is wasted oportunity on so many levels.
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 29, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
Millions for reshoots, but they can't spare 22g's for some breasts.
In all seriousness, I found it odd that Jake brought that up. And if true, where does that specific dollar amount come from? Maybe there is some sort of additional pay scale commonly used by actors for nudity.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 29, 2019, 11:07:06 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 29, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
Millions for reshoots, but they can't spare 22g's for some breasts.
In all seriousness, I found it odd that Jake brought that up. And if true, where does that specific dollar amount come from? Maybe there is some sort of additional pay scale commonly used by actors for nudity.
About 11k per breast apparently. Most likely just a random number.
Although Walter Matthau stated he'd have asked for another million for his nude scene in grumpier old men. ;D
I think Halle Berry got paid like an extra 500k to show her goodie bags in Swordfish.
I should watch that movie sometime.
Quote from: OWLF on Jan 29, 2019, 10:24:01 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 29, 2019, 01:50:22 PM
Oh yeah you're right, forgot about that ! ;D
No problem. Yeah it's really a quick scene, blink and you'll miss it. Like Jake Busey getting hit by a stray bullet in the background :laugh:
May be why I thought he came away from that ordeal unscathed.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 29, 2019, 11:07:06 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 29, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
Millions for reshoots, but they can't spare 22g's for some breasts.
In all seriousness, I found it odd that Jake brought that up. And if true, where does that specific dollar amount come from? Maybe there is some sort of additional pay scale commonly used by actors for nudity.
Olivia Munn actually talked about it in one of her interviews prior to the movie being released. She said that the payments were seriously based on which parts were shown and how much screen time they got.
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 29, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
Millions for reshoots, but they can't spare 22g's for some breasts.
Good chicken is expensive, man.
:laugh:
If you're gonna eat, eat like you mean it!
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 30, 2019, 12:24:50 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 29, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
Millions for reshoots, but they can't spare 22g's for some breasts.
Good chicken is expensive, man.
Munn is not on par with Halle Berry's goods.
Quote from: Wysps on Jan 30, 2019, 12:20:35 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 29, 2019, 11:07:06 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 29, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
Millions for reshoots, but they can't spare 22g's for some breasts.
In all seriousness, I found it odd that Jake brought that up. And if true, where does that specific dollar amount come from? Maybe there is some sort of additional pay scale commonly used by actors for nudity.
Olivia Munn actually talked about it in one of her interviews prior to the movie being released. She said that the payments were seriously based on which parts were shown and how much screen time they got.
Ahhh okay. I figured...
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 30, 2019, 12:49:17 AM
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 30, 2019, 12:24:50 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jan 29, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
Millions for reshoots, but they can't spare 22g's for some breasts.
Good chicken is expensive, man.
Munn is not on par with Halle Berry's goods.
Nevertheless, two pretty ladies.
I feel like the joke flew over some heads.
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Jan 30, 2019, 01:10:31 AM
I feel like the joke flew over some heads.
It's okay. I caught it in my teeth.
Literally the more I find out about this film the more I can't stand FOX!
His character was little else than a cameo, i havent seen such a conscious intent of ruining a movie since Justice League by warner
Quote from: D88M on Jan 30, 2019, 08:54:05 PM
His character was little else than a cameo, i havent seen such a conscious intent of ruining a movie since Justice League by warner
TLJ. Is in the running here
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 28, 2019, 04:37:48 PM
I think his character could have been interesting but he disappears as soon as the Predator escapes. And unlike Traegar, Keyes seemed sympathetic and more decent compared to him.
But Traeger is the most engaging character in the movie exactly because he is unsympathetic and not decent, the most entertaining presence. Why does a character need to be decent and sympathetic? What makes that type of character more interesting? Decent and sympathetic people are your family, friends, the people you encounter every day. That just sounds boring, and also the exact opposite of Peter Keyes, who was one of the most entertaining characters in Predator 2, again, because he was unsympathetic and an asshole.
Ever seen American Psycho? Taxi Driver? Monster (2003)?
Traeger was just obnoxious, and got most of the shitty self-aware dialogue that seemed designed to take the piss out of the Predator concept.
He was a walking Nicorette commercial.
I liked his FU attitude though.
His death was the stupidest.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 30, 2019, 10:46:48 PM
He was a walking Nicorette commercial.
I liked his FU attitude though.
His death was the stupidest.
His laugh was distracting from his character.
His laugh got old very quick. It was cute the first couple of times, then not so much.
Quote from: SiL on Jan 30, 2019, 10:42:21 PM
Traeger was just obnoxious
As opposed to what other character in the movie?
And also...what other character in another Predator movie?
I think I need more evidence of what you take as being so self-serious when it comes to this franchise. The original movie is two degrees short of being a straight up satire of 80s action movies.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 31, 2019, 12:41:19 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jan 30, 2019, 10:42:21 PM
Traeger was just obnoxious
As opposed to what other character in the movie?
And also...what other character in another Predator movie?
Are you just asking about obnoxiousness or the rest of my post you decided to cut out of the quote? I'm lost. Did I compare him to anyone else?
QuoteI think I need more evidence of what you take as being so self-serious when it comes to this franchise. The original movie is two degrees short of being a straight up satire of 80s action movies.
Of 80s action movies, sure. But it takes the concept of an intergalactic space hunter seriously. It doesn't keep winking at the audience about how silly the whole setup is. Once the Predator guts Hawkins, shit gets real.
Would've been nice to have a Peter Keyes reference in this film.
I think Traeger could have worked better had not everything and everyone around him been also a one liner. The whole lab scene sums it up, when you start with the security guard taking the piss out the elevator, then everything from then in the lab is just a piss take, so nothing is actually a piss take because the whole movie is just one giant living piss take. So it's not funy or cool anymore, it's annoying.
Imagine in Predator everyone is Hawkins.....
I mean even the Predators are dishing out gags...
Quote from: SiL on Jan 30, 2019, 10:42:21 PM
Traeger was just obnoxious, and got most of the shitty self-aware dialogue that seemed designed to take the piss out of the Predator concept.
He was, he did, and it's a shame.
Quote from: Highland on Jan 31, 2019, 03:40:19 AM
I think Traeger could have worked better had not everything and everyone around him been also a one liner. The whole lab scene sums it up, when you start with the security guard taking the piss out the elevator, then everything from then in the lab is just a piss take, so nothing is actually a piss take because the whole movie is just one giant living piss take. So it's not funy or cool anymore, it's annoying.
That actually really threw me off. I thought Olivia Munn would be the "straight" character to everyone's antics at least, but no -- she just talks the same as everyone else. You need a "straight" character to offset the witty quips, otherwise the whole thing turns into a cartoon.
Quote from: Valaquen on Jan 28, 2019, 04:40:25 PM
The more I hear about this movie the more I want to see it untrammelled by the studio. They really botched this.
They botched something that was botched to begin with. The leaks from the script drafts were an absolute nightmare and so was the end product
Quote from: SiL on Jan 31, 2019, 08:32:18 AM
Quote from: Highland on Jan 31, 2019, 03:40:19 AM
I think Traeger could have worked better had not everything and everyone around him been also a one liner. The whole lab scene sums it up, when you start with the security guard taking the piss out the elevator, then everything from then in the lab is just a piss take, so nothing is actually a piss take because the whole movie is just one giant living piss take. So it's not funy or cool anymore, it's annoying.
That actually really threw me off. I thought Olivia Munn would be the "straight" character to everyone's antics at least, but no -- she just talks the same as everyone else. You need a "straight" character to offset the witty quips, otherwise the whole thing turns into a cartoon.
It was a cartoon. I actually think some of the jokes would have landed , like "the predators cooler" had we not already been through the funnies before. The lab scene should be serious, then your jokes fire to cut the tension.
To be honest though I had the same problem with Iron Man 3 so my hopes were super low. I know people like that movie, but I just couldn't concentrate or better, I kept getting thrown out the cinema for the gag.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 30, 2019, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 28, 2019, 04:37:48 PM
I think his character could have been interesting but he disappears as soon as the Predator escapes. And unlike Traegar, Keyes seemed sympathetic and more decent compared to him.
But Traeger is the most engaging character in the movie exactly because he is unsympathetic and not decent, the most entertaining presence. Why does a character need to be decent and sympathetic? What makes that type of character more interesting? Decent and sympathetic people are your family, friends, the people you encounter every day. That just sounds boring, and also the exact opposite of Peter Keyes, who was one of the most entertaining characters in Predator 2, again, because he was unsympathetic and an asshole.
Ever seen American Psycho? Taxi Driver? Monster (2003)?
I found Traegar to be too cartoonish though. Peter Keyes was not a complete a**hole as he did save Harrigan's life when he didn't have to.
Having Sean Keyes be sympathetic and decent when he is part of shady group adds layers. It shows that not everyone there is mad scientist or complete unethical.
Quote from: Highland on Jan 31, 2019, 12:06:07 PM
It was a cartoon. I actually think some of the jokes would have landed , like "the predators cooler" had we not already been through the funnies before. The lab scene should be serious, then your jokes fire to cut the tension.
To be honest though I had the same problem with Iron Man 3 so my hopes were super low. I know people like that movie, but I just couldn't concentrate or better, I kept getting thrown out the cinema for the gag.
I hadn't seen IM3, so I was going by previous Black movies -- where he had straight characters to offset his loonies. This was just all shit talk, all the time. That's not what 80s movies were about -- even the ones Black was personally responsible for.
Sean Keyes was injured why? Did he pick up a gun or something?
It was chaos in the labs, a stray bullet or scalpel could have hit him or he might have been thrown by the Fugitive.
Pretty sure you see him hit by a stray bullet in the background of a shot.
Yeah he's shot in the background, and the last you see of him is him telling Munn's character to go after The Fugitive.
Wow and they really cut alot of bits, why werent these little bits on the DVD/Blu-ray?
Quote from: Vermillion on Jan 31, 2019, 12:31:49 PM
Sean Keyes was injured why? Did he pick up a gun or something?
That bit confused me. In one scene Fugitive is slaughtering everyone - soldier, scientist, and technicians. The next scene, Keyes is injured. I think it's choppy because of the zillion edits this movie had.
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 30, 2019, 10:33:26 PM
But Traeger is the most engaging character in the movie exactly because he is unsympathetic and not decent, the most entertaining presence.
I have to agree with you there brother. Traeger was the only character with gravitas, with on screen presence. The only performance really fun watching in my opinion.
Both are fine actors, but Sterling K. Brown to Boyd Holbrook is like Noomi Rapace to Katherine Waterston in these respective films. One radiates the screen - the other is radiated by it.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 31, 2019, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 30, 2019, 10:33:26 PM
But Traeger is the most engaging character in the movie exactly because he is unsympathetic and not decent, the most entertaining presence.
I have to agree with you there brother. Traeger was the only character with gravitas, with on screen presence. The only performance really fun watching in my opinion.
Both are fine actors, but Sterling K. Brown to Boyd Holbrook is like Noomi Rapace to Katherine Waterston in these respective films. One radiates the screen - the other is radiated by it.
I thought Holbrook was solid. There's nothing wrong with the acting. It's what they've been asked to do that's the problem. It's probably like the Star Wars Prequels in that regard.
Only person I liked was Nebraska -- but I liked him quite a bit.
Empathy.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 31, 2019, 10:15:25 PM
I have to agree with you there brother. Traeger was the only character with gravitas, with on screen presence. The only performance really fun watching in my opinion.
I found the entire cast to be fun myself. They were largely the only thing that kept the film fun for me.
Quote from: Highland on Feb 01, 2019, 04:39:30 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 31, 2019, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: Hudson on Jan 30, 2019, 10:33:26 PM
But Traeger is the most engaging character in the movie exactly because he is unsympathetic and not decent, the most entertaining presence.
I have to agree with you there brother. Traeger was the only character with gravitas, with on screen presence. The only performance really fun watching in my opinion.
Both are fine actors, but Sterling K. Brown to Boyd Holbrook is like Noomi Rapace to Katherine Waterston in these respective films. One radiates the screen - the other is radiated by it.
I thought Holbrook was solid. There's nothing wrong with the acting. It's what they've been asked to do that's the problem. It's probably like the Star Wars Prequels in that regard.
No, just like Waterson, Holbrook can definitely act, and the role didn't do him any favors I agree. I was just talking screen charisma. Je ne sais quoi. Something indefinable that makes someone stand out from the rest of the character actors.
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 31, 2019, 10:15:25 PM
I have to agree with you there brother. Traeger was the only character with gravitas, with on screen presence. The only performance really fun watching in my opinion.
I found the entire cast to be fun myself. They were largely the only thing that kept the film fun for me.
Others were worried about her, but Olivia Munn did a good job in my opinion. Casey is my second favorite behind Traeger, then followed by Nebraska.
Dutch really didn't stand out in the original. He's kinda the blandest apart from Poncho.
He's just bad ass at the end.
Quote from: Highland on Feb 01, 2019, 02:03:00 PM
Dutch really didn't stand out in the original. He's kinda the blandest apart from Poncho.
He's just bad ass at the end.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger exuded charisma out of his pores in the '80s. The camera loved Dutch. The man had a radioactive core, that hundreds of other bodybuilding actors tried and couldn't tap into.
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 01, 2019, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: Highland on Feb 01, 2019, 02:03:00 PM
Dutch really didn't stand out in the original. He's kinda the blandest apart from Poncho.
He's just bad ass at the end.
Whaaaaaaa???
https://media2.giphy.com/media/3ohhwDPNqOCQpD6ezK/giphy.webp
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DelectableHatefulAfricanmolesnake-max-1mb.gif
Arnold Schwarzenegger exuded charisma out of his pores in the '80s. The camera loved Dutch. The man had a radioactive core, that hundreds of other bodybuilding actors tried and couldn't tap into.
https://media.giphy.com/media/DyQKMifcrF39u/giphy.gif
And we all thought saying
Predators is better than
Predator 2 was a sin against Voodoo . . .
Both are sacrilege!! ;D
I never personally thought of Arnold as a great actor, but he always definitely had big on screen charisma and charm !
Same. I find his acting hammy, yet very charming for some reason. It's cheesy, but still believable in a strange way :) Like maybe...sincere?
Predator was the only movie I was able take Arnold 100% seriously. His best performance. In others there is always one moment he gets too cheesy.
I can never fully divorce Arnold Schwarzenegger from any of his characters, I'm always aware I'm watching him.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 02, 2019, 02:41:33 AM
Predator was the only movie I was able take Arnold 100% seriously. His best performance. In others there is always one moment he gets too cheesy.
Wasn't it one of his first performances?
He'd done two Conans, The Terminator, The Running Man and Commando before that at least (I am too lazy to look up the release dates of Red Sonja and Raw Deal).
Hercules in New York ;D
Anyway I have always thought Predator was his best performance as well.
He's pretty good in Conan. Although maybe that's just because it's an epic film.
True Lies, pretty good in that.
Predator is up there though. Probably is his best.
Maggie also brings out a great performance from him.
IMO, Arnold is always fun to watch but most of the cast of Predator were just as charming. I did not get that from The Predator. I did not like Munn in this at all, neither the acting, nor the character. Sterling K. Brown was the most fun and Trevante Rhodes was surprisingly sympathetic compared to the other characters. Really liked those two.
I was surprised by Travente Rhodes. When I first read the script, and even after watching the trailers, I had a different impression of his character than what was actually brought to life in the end. Would have to say favorite characters are between Traeger (despite "the laugh") or Nebraska (honestly have nothing negative to say save for how he could have lasted till the very end.) Never liked Munn's character...
I agree, Nebraska was... I don't know... Touching !
In regards to liking the character Casey, I guess out of everyone here, I'm the only Munn.
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Spoiler
(I needed that this morning lol)
Quote from: The Old One on Feb 02, 2019, 03:05:14 AM
I can never fully divorce Arnold Schwarzenegger from any of his characters, I'm always aware I'm watching him.
I generally can divorce the actor from the character, even with Arnold. But I understand why some folks can't. I imagine now that he's older, it's much easier for him to blend into different roles. But I worry that if he continues to do Terminator films, we're going to get used to the old terminator look and it's going to make things difficult again.
Aside from Maggie, has he really found a definitive dramatic role of any kind? I don't remember any (off-hand) that really stand out to me that aren't action or comedy related in some way. I'd really like to see him handle some mainstream heavy drama, even just once.
Quote from: Huggs on Feb 03, 2019, 08:55:01 PM
I generally can divorce the actor from the character, even with Arnold. But I understand why some folks can't. I imagine now that he's older, it's much easier for him to blend into different roles. But I worry that if he continues to do Terminator films, we're going to get used to the old terminator look and it's going to make things difficult again.
Aside from Maggie, has he really found a definitive dramatic role of any kind? I don't remember any (off-hand) that really stand out to me that aren't action or comedy related in some way. I'd really like to see him handle some mainstream heavy drama, even just once.
I generally can divorce the actor from the character, even with Arnold. But I understand why some folks can't. I imagine now that he's older, it's much easier for him to blend into different roles. But I worry that if he continues to do Terminator films, we're going to get used to the old terminator look and it's going to make things difficult again.
Aside from Maggie, has he really found a definitive dramatic role of any kind? I don't remember any (off-hand) that really stand out to me that aren't action or comedy related in some way. I'd really like to see him handle some mainstream heavy drama, even just once.
I thought Arnold was very good in Aftermath which was 100% a drama. Not a single punch thrown.
And unfortunately, it''s based on a sad, true story.