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Title: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Inverse Effect on Aug 03, 2013, 06:22:27 PM
After the giant flop of A:CM i recently bought a PS1 and this game. And i can tell you, sure graphics have come along way. And i suppose you could call A:CM an evolution of this game (or a De-evolution haha) But damn, this game is so much more fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS0NPEMcpzc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS0NPEMcpzc#)
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2013, 06:53:41 AM
I've mucked around with it on an emulator.  Fun, but I kept dying so often I had to use cheat codes so I could play through - and I never use cheat codes.  Some of them later levels would've been near impossible otherwise!
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 06, 2013, 08:24:29 AM
There is one level later on in the game where each adult runner alien has half the health of the queen.  Freaking ridiculous. 

Alien Res and AvP DC are still way harder though as a whole.  Might be because I played AT on Saturn/PS1.  Despite what people say, I think playing on console is easier than keyboarding it up.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Valaquen on Aug 06, 2013, 01:32:26 PM
I had this when it first came out. Tip: 1gotp1nk8cidbootson. Such a memorable cheat, I never forgot it.

I remember feeling the creeps run through me when the facehugger latched itself to the screen...
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: DC on Aug 07, 2013, 08:17:48 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 06, 2013, 08:24:29 AM
There is one level later on in the game where each adult runner alien has half the health of the queen.  Freaking ridiculous. 

Lead Mold. Don't even think about trying it out without cheats on.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 07, 2013, 08:37:20 AM
I've beat it without cheats.  I just run them all in a group and grenade/seismic survey charge them since those were still instakills.  I do remember one playthrough on that level though where I literally had the pistol as my only remaining weapon which you can't technically run out of ammo. 

Think there was like two aliens left and I was running everywhere to try and escape.

The pistol doesn't run out of ammo, but once you get it to one round left it goes to the reload animation and only loads........one round.

But this was back in the time when I remembered the layouts for the levels.  Probably fourteen or fifteen years ago and it was sega saturn and ps1.  On the standard difficulty.  That level was still noticeably harder than any other level in the game.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: DC on Aug 07, 2013, 10:11:12 AM
Kind of off topic, but not really since the OP mentions it in his post, is Colonial Marines worth it? I've heard that it sucks...
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 07, 2013, 07:23:04 PM
It is pretty bad, but if your a diehard Aliens fan you'll get it anyways.  I didn't have it till after a month when it came out and everybody was telling me it was terrible and the game reviews were godawful and I still got it.  And the DLCs.

So yeah.  Might want to wait for it to drop in price.

Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: nostalgicalgorithms on Aug 07, 2013, 07:35:45 PM
This game works great on Dosbox. The only problem I had with the game is that they didn't rework any of the graphics for the PC. So what looked good on a old TV on playstation hardware looked pretty awful and rough on the PC. The story was a mess but honesty they cared more about making fun games then than crafting a story.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: SIMULANT on Aug 07, 2013, 10:01:40 PM
had this on the sega saturn one of my favourite Alien games. Sure it complete disorts the story of the franchise but it does in an enjoyable way. Trying to meld all three films into one continuous story (as in the prison is put as part of the colony rather than a separate planet. it is hard as well as im sure most of you know that, trying it on the hardest difficulty really gives you a ride. Each alien takes like 40 shotgun bullets to go down.

Also speaking of alien games, has anyone ever completed Alien-resurrection without cheating?
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 07, 2013, 10:30:17 PM
Yes.  Its pretty simple once you figure out every time you flip a switch or open a door you trigger an encounter.

I've never tried it on the hardest difficulty though.  I run short of patience.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: aliens13 on Aug 07, 2013, 11:17:09 PM
Quote from: SIMULANT on Aug 07, 2013, 10:01:40 PM
had this on the sega saturn one of my favourite Alien games. Sure it complete disorts the story of the franchise but it does in an enjoyable way. Trying to meld all three films into one continuous story (as in the prison is put as part of the colony rather than a separate planet. it is hard as well as im sure most of you know that, trying it on the hardest difficulty really gives you a ride. Each alien takes like 40 shotgun bullets to go down.

Also speaking of alien games, has anyone ever completed Alien-resurrection without cheating?
It's impossible win the Alien Resurrection without cheats, I have a friend that he says that he won the game without cheats, but I don't believe it  ;D
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: nostalgicalgorithms on Aug 08, 2013, 05:09:19 PM
You have to play it with the PlayStation mouse. Which is getting really hard to find these days. It works on the PS2 even! Funny that when it came out few early games supported it and then one of the last games for the PSone chose to support the device. It makes playing the game much easier.

Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: SM on Aug 09, 2013, 12:09:08 AM
Yeah the aiming in Resurrection is shite.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: PsyKore on Aug 09, 2013, 08:22:35 AM
A:RES is not too bad; you just need to know where everything spawns from and be ready. Ammo isn't really a problem either if you know where everything is. First time through the game, though, is extremely tough going. But repeat playthroughs are easier.

I finished the game legitimately much later on PS2 and using the analog sticks - made things a lot more do-able control-wise as opposed to using the D-pad on PS1. When I first played it on PS1, I died often and had to cheat through the last few levels. The game was cool as hell, though, because it made me want to keep going to beat it. It was tense all the way and good fun.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: [cancerblack] on Aug 09, 2013, 01:31:12 PM
Probably one of my favourite games ever. I still play it on an emulator, and have the soundtrack on my laptop. I have no idea how many hours I spent beating this as a kid, I think it took me nearly a year of getting frustrated and re-starting to get to the final queen.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 09, 2013, 04:48:52 PM
This game terrified me when I was a kid. I remember watching my Dad play it from behind the settee. I've got it on the Saturn and the PS1 at the minute. I managed to get through to the Derelict levels on the PS1 but I haven't played it in forever - lost the power cable. Haven't been able to get far on the Saturn. I'm stuck on an earlier level last I played it.

I always wanted to see a remake in AvP2.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Hudson on Aug 09, 2013, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2013, 06:53:41 AM
I've mucked around with it on an emulator.  Fun, but I kept dying so often I had to use cheat codes so I could play through - and I never use cheat codes.  Some of them later levels would've been near impossible otherwise!

I used codes on the PlayStation to get through it. I never played it at the time of its release so I found it boring.

I also have Resurrection but I'm not sure if I played that through with codes or not.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: [cancerblack] on Aug 09, 2013, 09:56:02 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 09, 2013, 04:48:52 PM
This game terrified me when I was a kid. I remember watching my Dad play it from behind the settee. I've got it on the Saturn and the PS1 at the minute. I managed to get through to the Derelict levels on the PS1 but I haven't played it in forever - lost the power cable. Haven't been able to get far on the Saturn. I'm stuck on an earlier level last I played it.

I always wanted to see a remake in AvP2.


Oh man... that would have been sweet.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: nostalgicalgorithms on Aug 10, 2013, 05:59:49 PM
The level design and textures really helped build the atmosphere in this game. It seemed it was perfectly suited to the PSX dark muddy color palette. Does it run as good or better on the Saturn?
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 10, 2013, 08:02:43 PM
It runs fine on Saturn but there is no autolamp or nvgs in that game because the Saturn version doesn't have visual deformities or environmental darkness like the PS1 version does.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: [cancerblack] on Aug 10, 2013, 11:27:56 PM
Level 3 (Recreation Rooms) is the first time you get introduced to the really dark sections of the game, and level four (Med. Lab) is even worse. First time I was ever scared playing a game.


Not to mention the gut-wrenching horror of Lead Mould or THE ENTIRE f**kING BONESHIP, but they came later.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: SM on Aug 12, 2013, 02:05:32 AM
QuoteI also have Resurrection but I'm not sure if I played that through with codes or not.

Still haven't played through Res.  Been ages since I even played it.

Think I only got up to level 3 or something.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: SIMULANT on Aug 12, 2013, 02:55:40 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 12, 2013, 02:05:32 AM
QuoteI also have Resurrection but I'm not sure if I played that through with codes or not.

Still haven't played through Res.  Been ages since I even played it.

Think I only got up to level 3 or something.

The missions don't get any varied from beyond the first two except the boss battle with the Newborn hybrid alien. (which is frustrating)
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Hudson on Aug 12, 2013, 05:20:27 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 12, 2013, 02:05:32 AM
QuoteI also have Resurrection but I'm not sure if I played that through with codes or not.

Still haven't played through Res.  Been ages since I even played it.

Think I only got up to level 3 or something.

It wasn't terribly engaging or atmospheric like AvP 1999 was.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: SM on Aug 12, 2013, 05:23:50 AM
I thought it was really atmospheric, but the lack of save points, crummy aiming and lack of time have kept me from it for some time.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Hudson on Aug 12, 2013, 05:29:31 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 12, 2013, 05:23:50 AM
I thought it was really atmospheric, but the lack of save points, crummy aiming and lack of time have kept me from it for some time.

I think for me, by the time I played it I'd cut my teeth on Perfect Dark as my go to FPS, so Resurrection just wasn't as fun for me.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 12, 2013, 06:22:58 AM
Its hard to go back and play those older games sometimes.  Not all of them age well. 

Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Hudson on Aug 12, 2013, 06:24:45 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 12, 2013, 06:22:58 AM
Its hard to go back and play those older games sometimes.  Not all of them age well.

If XBLA released an Alien Trilogy remake I'd buy it. The Doom release they have is pretty fun. It's an efficient game, easy to figure out and fairly fun. I feel like Alien trilogy would be with a two joystick configuration. Isn't the original game not dualshock compatible?
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 12, 2013, 06:32:09 AM
Indeed.  I'd play a remake with updated graphics and ragdoll.

I have trouble playing fps without ragdoll.  I'll play avp2 and the same guy dying and falling forward without a head every single f**king animation kills it for me.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Oasis Nadrama on Jan 30, 2019, 01:39:39 AM
(https://gaminghistory101.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/at_1.jpg)

I have VERY FOND MEMORIES of this game. Spent countless hours playing it. In fact, I enjoyed it more than any other Alien VS Predator or Alien game ever (except for Isolation of course which is by far the best Alien video game), because it focused on the Aliens, contained gameplay mechanics which made the game really creepy and oppressive, and the overall atmosphere was extremely dark.

Not a fan of the way the face-hugger is reduced to a health-depleting enemy rather than a deadly threat, and I'm frankly bewildered by the "story" which makes literally no sense - I'll talk more about it later - and in the end the game is quite repetitive, but I still enjoyed it A LOT.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Huggs on Jan 30, 2019, 01:46:55 AM
Spent many a happy hour with this one as a kid. I loved the opening cinematic with the lander. God, this game was so much fun.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 25, 2019, 10:09:45 AM
Made some 28mm figures of the Aliens from this game.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hJLdntt_jh4/WRTZ0L7O4lI/AAAAAAAAGnA/q_9InUxVSYw5NUmKHqrCnLnqrMNkrsDMwCLcB/s1600/005.png)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-AEtctMMTTA4%2FVq6PSwdQyqI%2FAAAAAAAATXI%2F3W1QMhZKie8%2Fs1600%2FAlien%252BTrilogy%252B-%252BXenomorph.jpg&hash=6896d9d729c07ed86ea9e42c40c8ac2922506ced)
(https://i.imgur.com/hdN9tOB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/a6TNtHW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zdChnd4.jpg)


(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-q7QbLZu4NmI%2FT6a7_rLGujI%2FAAAAAAAAHCw%2FKXp5kJSp2Ro%2Fs1600%2Fat11.png&hash=9418bc511215ad767a09b5ab51680f2797442f13)
(https://i.imgur.com/VVKZBi4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7DRraXu.jpg)


(https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/games.snapshot/43/66145-AlienTrilogy.jpg)
(https://hiddenpalace.org/w/images/thumb/e/e0/Alien_Trilogy-1996-07-23-Game-15.png/250px-Alien_Trilogy-1996-07-23-Game-15.png)
(https://www.satakore.com/satengine/screenshots/T-81/T-8113G_2,,Sega-Saturn-Screenshot-2-Alien-Trilogy-JPN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qvVSh3n.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/N4HobEB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1XSxuFC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PJQ5orI.jpg)
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 25, 2019, 10:40:41 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2013, 06:53:41 AM
I've mucked around with it on an emulator.  Fun, but I kept dying so often I had to use cheat codes so I could play through - and I never use cheat codes.  Some of them later levels would've been near impossible otherwise!

Ah, so you wore the pink acid boots?  :laugh: No shame in that, sometimes I did though I did complete it once without the codes.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Huggs on Apr 25, 2019, 04:19:39 PM
Games were freakin hard back then, but we just didn't know it. Honed our skills.

Whenever I play mega man 2 now it's like "oh my god".
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Wweyland on Apr 25, 2019, 06:40:12 PM
This was in my TODO list for like 20 years and finally got around to it last year. Was really in trouble in the Garage level but got a hang of things later and it became easier. Also made good use of the quick save function on the PS emulator. Finished it!
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: iain on Apr 25, 2019, 09:53:20 PM
Still got it with my og playstation!

The music used to creep me the hell out when I was little.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Monster Man on Apr 25, 2019, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 25, 2019, 10:09:45 AM
Made some 28mm figures of the Aliens from this game.

Impressive work on the figures my dude.

And because no one has done it yet, I'll post some snippets of the soundtrack.


https://youtu.be/4ZhcwvhFajM

https://youtu.be/6sFio1KxePE
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 26, 2019, 12:17:46 AM
Quote from: Wweyland on Apr 25, 2019, 06:40:12 PM
This was in my TODO list for like 20 years and finally got around to it last year. Was really in trouble in the Garage level but got a hang of things later and it became easier. Also made good use of the quick save function on the PS emulator. Finished it!

Garage was the first level I got stuck on as a kid. You feel so exposed, there's aliens everywhere, and it's your first real exposure to multiple levels of terrain/droplifts. Very easy to not find anything and run in circles in a blind panic.

Quote from: Monster Man on Apr 25, 2019, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 25, 2019, 10:09:45 AM
Made some 28mm figures of the Aliens from this game.

Impressive work on the figures my dude.

And because no one has done it yet, I'll post some snippets of the soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c10LPe1uQaI
https://youtu.be/4ZhcwvhFajM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpdndS9czAA
https://youtu.be/6sFio1KxePE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M-SubU3hK8



Thanks, and haha I posted one of these tracks in a different thread last night.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: WY-0311 on Apr 26, 2019, 01:57:11 AM
I have PTSD from this game. Well.. I'm an adult now so it's reduced to a mere shudder when I hear the OST and see the visuals, but it's there!
Gosh I was horrified when the face hugger filled the entire TV screen, disgusting visuals for a child.

Well.. I guess that the time has finally come for me to return to this god forsaken nightmare... damn you OP.. damn you...  ;D
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: [cancerblack] on Apr 26, 2019, 02:01:06 AM
It actually holds up pretty well, all things considered.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Huggs on Apr 26, 2019, 06:24:06 PM
I still listen to the soundtrack regularly.

I've posted tracks in other threads before. It really sticks in your head.

The main theme still rocks.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 26, 2019, 08:05:03 PM
Yeah, I'm the same! I regularly revisit the soundtrack for Trilogy. Absolute classic.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: molasar on Apr 26, 2019, 08:15:42 PM
The game was a reason I purchased a PS1 console together with it in 1996. It is my favorite Alien franchise based game without Predators in it.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: iain on May 01, 2019, 04:18:53 PM
Quote from: molasar on Apr 26, 2019, 08:15:42 PM
The game was a reason I purchased a PS1 console together with it in 1996. It is my favorite Alien franchise based game without Predators in it.

Mine to...Alien Trilogy and Street Fighter Alpha were my reasons for getting a PS1.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 09, 2019, 09:39:48 AM
Level 26/Secrets, on hard, exited the level with 391 health and 98 armour.


(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fartisticimaginations.com%2Fhiveseeker%2F351.gif&hash=e99e1d1bb2639c654019b6383037104ea32e2206)




My score:


(https://i.gyazo.com/f93afb2167ef49b6b4a4ad95756d496c.png)
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: molasar on May 15, 2019, 07:25:00 PM
Alien Trilogy - Demo disc video [fanmade] by RedheadMetalC



and some official one from VHS

Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Huggs on May 15, 2019, 07:29:27 PM
I miss this game so much right now.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: iain on May 15, 2019, 08:11:46 PM
Dusted off my mini ps1 just to play this game again.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: molasar on May 15, 2019, 09:17:54 PM
(https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.net/-3024875345249094461/-4915322531777279501.jpg)

(https://dans-things.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/alien-trilogy-acclaim.jpg)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.retrogamingaus.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2FAlien-Trilogy-2.jpg&hash=40faae33f88d0db4fed47872bdce080536dc9739)

(https://i2.wp.com/c5.staticflickr.com/9/8133/29737724124_193d62bdb4_b.jpg?ssl=1)
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kradan on May 15, 2019, 09:22:43 PM
I never could play it without cheats.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: molasar on May 15, 2019, 09:41:40 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLEX09gXcAAcmAf.jpg)
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kradan on May 15, 2019, 10:36:17 PM
Yeah, these covers are damn good!
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: razeak on May 20, 2019, 03:29:47 AM
The Fox Logo and sound cue used in that game still triggers a chill up my spine when hear it.


On PS1 it came in a long box version and greatest hits edition in a regular jewel case.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 22, 2019, 07:25:56 PM
Quote from: razeak on May 20, 2019, 03:29:47 AM
The Fox Logo and sound cue used in that game still triggers a chill up my spine when hear it.


Followed by the laggy, but thumping Acclaim cue. Unf.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: molasar on May 22, 2019, 08:00:09 PM
Quote from: razeak on May 20, 2019, 03:29:47 AM
The Fox Logo and sound cue used in that game still triggers a chill up my spine when hear it.


On PS1 it came in a long box version and greatest hits edition in a regular jewel case.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 22, 2019, 07:25:56 PM
Quote from: razeak on May 20, 2019, 03:29:47 AM
The Fox Logo and sound cue used in that game still triggers a chill up my spine when hear it.


Followed by the laggy, but thumping Acclaim cue. Unf.
Also a Probe logo got a sound cue in later game ports which is not present in PS1 version.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 22, 2019, 08:01:03 PM
Yeah, it's too upbeat. Silent is better.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on May 23, 2019, 03:53:20 AM
This is another game I grew up on.   Really dug the soundtrack.

I played Alien Res on PS quite often, but didn't have nearly as many hours logged.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Huggs on May 23, 2019, 04:24:12 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 23, 2019, 03:53:20 AM
This is another game I grew up on.   Really dug the soundtrack.

I played Alien Res on PS quite often, but didn't have nearly as many hours logged.

Same.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Dingbat on May 23, 2019, 06:14:17 PM
I stuck my ps1 disc of this game into my CD player and it played the soundtrack which was pretty cool, otherwise I feel like I'm making good progress in the game but I've got a long way to go...
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: TheBATMAN on May 23, 2019, 09:12:53 PM
Always loved the intro music and title sequence too. Nice mix of all three films in one.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: razeak on May 24, 2019, 12:59:12 PM
I really think its a better game than how it was received at the time. Its just so brutal. The reviews are good, I just think its more upper tier.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: molasar on May 24, 2019, 03:15:28 PM
Quote from: razeak on May 24, 2019, 12:59:12 PM
I really think its a better game than how it was received at the time. Its just so brutal. The reviews are good, I just think its more upper tier.
It was considered obsolete in comparison to PC's Quake in 1996, I guess but PCs were not a standard home gaming systems yet.
I myself considered it a high jump especially from 16-bit consoles and computers (SNES/Genesis/Amiga). It was definitely a great game for the fans, maybe not so for those who preferred a larger variety in terms of weapons and enemies in Doom/Duke Nukem/Dark Forces.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: razeak on May 26, 2019, 08:27:42 PM
True. Quake was revolutionary. I would say Alien Trilogy stands up well vs the other traditional FPS of the era.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: OpenMaw on Jun 16, 2019, 04:08:02 AM
Quote from: molasar on May 24, 2019, 03:15:28 PM
It was considered obsolete in comparison to PC's Quake in 1996, I guess but PCs were not a standard home gaming systems yet.


PC was not standard in 1996? Really? Yeah it was. PC gaming was really taking off by the mid 90s. Wolf3D, Doom, Quake and Duke Nukem 3D had propelled the PC market to booming heights. To say nothing of Dark Forces, Terminal Velocity, the entire shareware revolution from the 80s into the early 90s.

Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Jun 16, 2019, 04:10:01 AM
PC gamers once laughed at the notion that console multiplayer gaming would ever surpass them.


IT'S TRUE.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: molasar on Jun 16, 2019, 05:19:24 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 16, 2019, 04:08:02 AM
Quote from: molasar on May 24, 2019, 03:15:28 PM
It was considered obsolete in comparison to PC's Quake in 1996, I guess but PCs were not a standard home gaming systems yet.


PC was not standard in 1996? Really? Yeah it was. PC gaming was really taking off by the mid 90s. Wolf3D, Doom, Quake and Duke Nukem 3D had propelled the PC market to booming heights. To say nothing of Dark Forces, Terminal Velocity, the entire shareware revolution from the 80s into the early 90s.


By "standard" I meant that you could see it in every gamer's household. Especially the one which could run Quake.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: 426Buddy on Jun 17, 2019, 11:35:46 AM
Games were just different on consoles and PCs.  I was playing Metroid, Castlevania, FF, Zelda, and mario on my snes.

On the computer I was playing Mechwarrior, Doom, Descent, Diablo, and Tomb Raider.

Like two different worlds but both still great in their own ways.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Jun 18, 2019, 02:26:23 AM
One thing that has always stood out to me in Alien Trilogy was that the corporate mercs in AT and their bald heads reminded me of the prisoners and the forced labor aspect of Alien3.


So there isnt anything to support this in game (that I can remember) but I always thought of the corporate mercs  forced guns as opposed to guns for hire.

Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Oct 01, 2019, 11:43:58 AM
Found this game to be way too slow, pondering and boring upon release in UK March 1996!

I recall wanting fast PS1 games like StarBlade Alpha and Ace Combat and almost got those two. But a bullying member of GAME/Electronics Boutique staff used a hard sell to flog ALIEN-Trilogy to me.

It wasn't only cause ALIEN was old hat by then, but cause I'd played frantically paced games like ALIENS By Electric Dreams Software UK on the ZX Spectrum (aka ALIENS- US edition) and ALIEN 3 on the Sega Genesis and Mega Drive.

Graphics were good but the engine was slow.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: razeak on Oct 01, 2019, 01:56:30 PM
I think those are corporate synthetics, not mercs in Alien Trilogy.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: molasar on Oct 01, 2019, 03:21:50 PM
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Oct 01, 2019, 11:43:58 AM
Found this game to be way too slow, pondering and boring upon release in UK March 1996!

I recall wanting fast PS1 games like StarBlade Alpha and Ace Combat and almost got those two. But a bullying member of GAME/Electronics Boutique staff used a hard sell to flog ALIEN-Trilogy to me.

It wasn't only cause ALIEN was old hat by then, but cause I'd played frantically paced games like ALIENS By Electric Dreams Software UK on the ZX Spectrum (aka ALIENS- US edition) and ALIEN 3 on the Sega Genesis and Mega Drive.

Graphics were good but the engine was slow.
The slow engine?
How old were you at the time?
Have you ever used a run button in it?
If they made it run faster then it would become unplayable. Check a PC port which has a game speed tethered to CPU frequency as a proof of this.
To be honest I commend GAME/Electronic Boutique staff for their work in this case because the game was smoking hot at the time unlike StarBlade Alpha and Air Combat. I would not like somebody trying to sell me yesterday's papers if there is the new one available.
'ALIEN was old hat by then' - it never gets old. It is one of the best templates for video games (especially based on Aliens 1986) that is still in use.
Regarding Aliens (US ed.) and Alien 3 MD/Gen you should play Alien Trilogy on the hardest level of difficulty for frantic paced experience (it has some levels with a time limit either).
Summarizing - Alien Trilogy was the ultimate video gaming Alien/Aliens experience in 1996.
Are you sure you were a fan of the franchise?
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kradan on Oct 02, 2019, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: molasar on Oct 01, 2019, 03:21:50 PM
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Oct 01, 2019, 11:43:58 AM
Found this game to be way too slow, pondering and boring upon release in UK March 1996!

I recall wanting fast PS1 games like StarBlade Alpha and Ace Combat and almost got those two. But a bullying member of GAME/Electronics Boutique staff used a hard sell to flog ALIEN-Trilogy to me.

It wasn't only cause ALIEN was old hat by then, but cause I'd played frantically paced games like ALIENS By Electric Dreams Software UK on the ZX Spectrum (aka ALIENS- US edition) and ALIEN 3 on the Sega Genesis and Mega Drive.

Graphics were good but the engine was slow.
The slow engine?
How old were you at the time?
Have you ever used a run button in it?
If they made it run faster then it would become unplayable. Check a PC port which has a game speed tethered to CPU frequency as a proof of this.
To be honest I commend GAME/Electronic Boutique staff for their work in this case because the game was smoking hot at the time unlike StarBlade Alpha and Air Combat. I would not like somebody trying to sell me yesterday's papers if there is the new one available.
'ALIEN was old hat by then' - it never gets old. It is one of the best templates for video games (especially based on Aliens 1986) that is still used.
Regarding Aliens (US ed.) and Alien 3 MD/Gen you should play Alien Trilogy on the hardest level of difficulty for frantic paced experience (it has some levels with a time limit either).
Summarizing - Alien Trilogy was the ultimate video gaming Alien/Aliens experience in 1996.
Are you sure you were a fan of the franchise?

Ouch
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Oct 02, 2019, 02:50:42 AM
Quote from: razeak on Oct 01, 2019, 01:56:30 PM
I think those are corporate synthetics, not mercs in Alien Trilogy.

The mercs were the bald ones with red blood..............the androids were the smart gunners with white blood. 



Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: razeak on Oct 02, 2019, 03:21:55 AM
I didn't remember red blood. Been a while. Must be time for a play through.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Oct 02, 2019, 12:53:26 PM
Quote from: molasar on Oct 01, 2019, 03:21:50 PMThe slow engine? (add) Have you ever used a run button in it?
How old were you at the time? (add) 'ALIEN was old hat by then' - it never gets old.
It is one of the best templates for video games (especially based on Aliens 1986) that is still in use.
Summarizing - Alien Trilogy was the ultimate video gaming Alien/Aliens experience in 1996.
Are you sure you were a fan of the franchise?

Yes I thought the game was slow compared to DOOM on the MS-DOS. A cousin stated the turning around mechanic was like an oil tanker, even with the run button engaged.

I was 14 going on 15 at the time. It was the 90s when trends moved fast, technological and cultural progress moved fast. Even actress Carrie Henn stated by 1992 ALIENS was "old hat". The Dark Horse comics became worthless.
Yeah I dislike bandwagoning but I was a true fan between 1992-1997. The game AVP (1999) and the film AVP (2004) is what brought me back into the fold. AVP 2 (PC-DVD) I played that mutli-player non-stop between 2008-2014.

I'm a fan, but I'd be lying if I didn't give up hope that ALIENS was dead a few times. Kind of like the defeatists who can't decide if rock is dead.

I prefered ALIEN Resurrection PS-1 to ALIEN Trilogy PS-1. The alien dog runners here don't exactly provide much challenge.


Compare it to my previous outing with dog aliens.

Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: molasar on Oct 02, 2019, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Oct 02, 2019, 12:53:26 PM

Yes I thought the game was slow compared to DOOM on the MS-DOS. A cousin stated the turning around mechanic was like an oil tanker, even with the run button engaged.

I was 14 going on 15 at the time. It was the 90s when trends moved fast, technological and cultural progress moved fast. Even actress Carrie Henn stated by 1992 ALIENS was "old hat". The Dark Horse comics became worthless.
Yeah I dislike bandwagoning but I was a true fan between 1992-1997. The game AVP (1999) and the film AVP (2004) is what brought me back into the fold. AVP 2 (PC-DVD) I played that mutli-player non-stop between 2008-2014.

I'm a fan, but I'd be lying if I didn't give up hope that ALIENS was dead a few times. Kind of like the defeatists who can't decide if rock is dead.

I prefered ALIEN Resurrection PS-1 to ALIEN Trilogy PS-1. The alien dog runners here don't exactly provide much challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puDIwQemTXw

Compare it to my previous outing with dog aliens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMOdKrs8wdg


Yes, different strokes for different folks.

Anyway, IMO Alien Trilogy's design was intentional even if PS1 hardware could easily do more.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: SiL on Oct 15, 2019, 11:03:43 AM
Replayed this for the first time in decades and holy moly it has not aged well  :D

Great nostalgia, terrible playing experience.

And the Aliens have always, always looked awful. Even for '96 they look bad.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 15, 2019, 08:09:30 PM
Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Oct 02, 2019, 12:53:26 PM

I prefered ALIEN Resurrection PS-1 to ALIEN Trilogy PS-1. The alien dog runners here don't exactly provide much challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puDIwQemTXw


I mean, those are the bambi-bursters. The adult Dogs in the Leadworks hive level are the toughest non Queen enemies in the game.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Oct 16, 2019, 02:20:04 AM
The leadworks dog alien is probably the toughest drone style enemies in ANY of the Alien FPS games.


That shit was ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: SiL on Oct 16, 2019, 03:03:42 AM
I didn't notice because I just pegged survey charges at them :D

I learned my lesson years ago. Save your explosives for the dogs.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Oct 16, 2019, 03:07:43 AM
I didn't for years because I'd just nade them with the pulse.  Then randomly I had the smartgun and had a why the hell won't this thing die moment.    And then it continued. 
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: SiL on Oct 16, 2019, 09:20:09 AM
One thing that does actually hold up for the game is its overall mood and atmosphere. Between the music, the short draw distance, and the sound design, it has a really neat, dark vibe to it. The cocooned people are particularly creepy.

I wish the game had done more with the Aliens crawling on the ceilings, but since you actually had to aim up to hit them -- and doing so is a pain in the ass -- it's probably for the best.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: [cancerblack] on Oct 16, 2019, 07:27:32 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 16, 2019, 09:20:09 AM
One thing that does actually hold up for the game is its overall mood and atmosphere. Between the music, the short draw distance, and the sound design, it has a really neat, dark vibe to it. The cocooned people are particularly creepy.

Hard. Also some of the level design helps with that. It's got plenty of gamey nonsense too, but certain areas/rooms/textures etc really evoke the films or tell a story.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: SiL on Oct 18, 2019, 08:24:10 AM
I thought the A3 levels were actually quite beautiful in places for the time. The derelict and colony were nightmares of indistinguishable corridors sometimes.

I mean, The Leadworks was, too, but that was at least the point.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: The Old One on Nov 09, 2019, 05:20:12 PM
Yeah, totally agreed- pity the "story" itself hinders everything else it does correct.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Kimarhi on Nov 09, 2019, 07:58:50 PM
Back then more games didn't have stories than did. 
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: Huggs on Nov 09, 2019, 08:05:53 PM
Yep.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: The Old One on Nov 10, 2019, 08:30:28 AM
Yeah, I suppose that's true.  Means I really appreciate Isolation and Infestation.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: 426Buddy on Nov 10, 2019, 11:36:27 PM
I remember when the story could be found as a short blurb in the instruction manual lol.
Title: Re: Alien Trilogy discussion
Post by: The Old One on Nov 12, 2019, 09:40:57 PM
Aha, I'd honestly prefer that over the "story" of ACM. lol