Not to say those plot details from this past week aren't accurate (they are, or at least they were at one point, as we have heard Ridley Scott mention them in the past), but for the time being that is all that they are... plot details. An actual screenplay has not yet been written.
https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2018/11/15/rumor-control-there-is-no-script-for-alien-awakening (https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2018/11/15/rumor-control-there-is-no-script-for-alien-awakening)
Ridley Scott did say John Logan was nearly done with a script back when Covenant came out, though.
It could simply be a matter of wording. They may have a treatment or something, which means they have concepts and ideas of where to go next, but it may not be a proper completed draft.
Everything film wise would be on hold till Disney decides what they want to commit to.
Probably the case, yeah. Hopefully a sequel will be greenlit soon enough.
I wonder what they're working on right now.. the TV show, I suppose?
The TV show is hypothetical.
Alien Day.
Quote from: Evanus on Nov 15, 2018, 10:40:40 PM
Probably the case, yeah. Hopefully a sequel will be greenlit soon enough.
I wonder what they're working on right now.. the TV show, I suppose?
Licensing is working on a bunch of things. Film division - probably not so much.
I've said it many times and will say it again: FOX! Take the franchise away from Scott! Let him create his AI stuff but as a separate thing from ALIEN. Since Prometheus I really don't like the direction ALIEN is going.
what type of stuff is licensing working on?
Things licensing would probably be working on:
Alien Game by Cold Iron Studios
Alien: Resistance Comic
Alien: Isolation Book
Alien: Echo YA Novel
Tongal Short Film Contest
Apparent Alien Streaming Series
Something for the 40th Anniversary next year probably, they would be crazy not to take advantage of that and go out with a bang.
I still want another movie from Ridley Scott and an Alien 5 film from Blomkamp or whoever they choose.
i wonder if they'd hit us with an announcement of a coming tv/streaming service on the next alien day. only 5 months away
Quote from: muthur9000 on Nov 16, 2018, 09:25:00 AM
Things licensing would probably be working on:
Alien Game by Cold Iron Studios
Alien: Resistance Comic
Alien: Isolation Book
Alien: Echo YA Novel
Tongal Short Film Contest
Apparent Alien Streaming Series
Plus a few other things.
you are such a tease..
and i can't say that i dislike it
;)
Lol well it means someone else could step in and #StopScott lol
Hope for Ridley!
If they announce next year that the sequel is in the making, it would be a wonderful.
The studio has to let him finish his series. Its just one movie which will connect the prequels and the original one. Despite this, they will probably regret things if they don't do it. Even if it isn't huge hit, the prequel series might become a classic in decades or so.
Quote from: SM on Nov 16, 2018, 10:28:19 AM
Quote from: muthur9000 on Nov 16, 2018, 09:25:00 AM
Things licensing would probably be working on:
Alien Game by Cold Iron Studios
Alien: Resistance Comic
Alien: Isolation Book
Alien: Echo YA Novel
Tongal Short Film Contest
Apparent Alien Streaming Series
Plus a few other things.
Yes, other things I will have to put money aside for.
Best thing would be Fox put an end on Ridley Scott's ew Aliens films for good. His "Prometheus" and "Alien: Covenant" must be ignored in the franchising, as Tim Burton's "Planet of Apes" was.
Can we get Alien/Predator attractions at Disney parks
Quote from: Whos_Nick on Nov 16, 2018, 01:03:01 PM
Can we get Alien/Predator attractions at Disney parks
We could only hope... Until then Fox World in Malaysia will be the closest thing to an Alien theme park.
Can't believe anything anyone says with regard to Alien sequels. Mostly a bunch of lies and misinformation.
Before the poor box office of Covenant, they sounded so ready to start rolling on the next movie a few months later. I can't imagine a script wasn't already in the works if they planned to shoot the next one so soon.
The Alien franchise gets a crumb here, a crumb there, and each one tastes worse than the last. It just doesn't seem right. This isn't Jurassic World, this is platinum level science fiction. Where's the love?
Quote from: Saggit on Nov 16, 2018, 09:05:32 AM
I've said it many times and will say it again: FOX! Take the franchise away from Scott! Let him create his AI stuff but as a separate thing from ALIEN.
He's already doing his "AI stuff" as "a separate thing" in the form of a new television series for TNT called Raised by Wolves. In fact, I'm pretty sure a lot of his ideas for Covenant II will find their way into his new show.
Quote from: necrotard on Nov 16, 2018, 04:04:00 PM
Before the poor box office of Covenant, they sounded so ready to start rolling on the next movie a few months later. I can't imagine a script wasn't already in the works if they planned to shoot the next one so soon.
From what I've gleaned, certain Covenant props were put into storage in Sydney after they wrapped filming. However a report later (Hicks can you confirm?) surfaced saying those props were destroyed after Covenant's disappointing box office results. I also suspect Scott's agreement with the Aussie government was originally for a three film deal.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 16, 2018, 05:48:51 PM
From what I've gleaned, certain Covenant props were put into storage in Sydney after they wrapped filming. However a report later (Hicks can you confirm?) surfaced saying those props were destroyed after Covenant's disappointing box office results. I also suspect Scott's agreement with the Aussie government was originally for a three film deal.
That was one user on the Blu-ray.com forums. From what I remember, they claimed that Covenant 2 was about to start shooting the following September after Covenant's release. That's why they were saving the props before the box office results changed their plans. This is why I'd be surprised if the script wasn't at least being worked on by May if they planned to shoot in September.
Yep, that's the one. What were the credentials of that forum user, was he a reliable source? I think Hicks checked him out back then which is why I asked for him to confirm.
Movie props are usually destroyed right after filming since storage costs would be prohibitive. If the props were indeed put into storage then they must have already had a fixed date in mind with regards to filming the sequel.
Not even a draft? That is odd, there must be something lost in translation, surely there must be something of the movie. What i hope is that they end the trilogy before disney comes to destroy everything.
Here's that Blu-ray.com post.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=14128165&postcount=1568 (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=14128165&postcount=1568)
His profile claims he's Carl Braga, a guy with a handful of art department credits on IMDb, including Alien: Covenant.
I thought someone dug up a Fox production schedule that confirmed Covenant was slated to begin in that September as well... but that might have been proven fake. I can't find it now.
"I think the evolution of the Alien himself is nearly over, but what I was trying to do was transcend and move to another story, which would be taken over by A.I.'s."
I'm sort of happy that didnt materialize into a shooting script to be completely honest.
Not yet anyway, but a different conclusion may yet materialize.
Quote from: David's Creation on Nov 16, 2018, 06:45:37 PM
Here's that Blu-ray.com post.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=14128165&postcount=1568 (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=14128165&postcount=1568)
His profile claims he's Carl Braga, a guy with a handful of art department credits on IMDb, including Alien: Covenant.
I thought someone dug up a Fox production schedule that confirmed Covenant was slated to begin in that September as well... but that might have been proven fake. I can't find it now.
I dunno... ive worked in the art department on several features and it is just rather common place for the studio to keep certain things they deem potentially useful. It doesnt necessarily have to be used for sequels. Its a very strange process of elimination when a film wraps for the art department. I once watched a studio insist on keeping one of two portraits of Julia Roberts, made for a film... She asked for both, they gave her one and wanted to keep the other. Julia had contracted that she get to keep her wardrobe, and thenwhen she came to pick it up she tried to pick up the second portrait too. Her excuse? "what the hell are they gonnando with this other portrait of me in storage?" Reshoots had been completed. Not sure what ended up happening to that portrait, but Im currently typing this one my cellphone in the bed she shared in that film with a handsome costar... so none of what they keep or waste or give away and auction off really makes sense in any logical way. Im sure they may have been inclined to keep some stuff but it doesn't necessarily mean anything is solidly in the works. If they had dates to start shooting THAT does make sense.
This is bullshit but I can still dream about a script being completed can't I. :'(
Not sure they will ever make this with how poor Covenant did or if they do go ahead, it will be a cut down version of it, as no way they will throw a ton of money at it now.
I bet Fox wish they had taken a chance on Blomkamp's direct Aliens sequel now. I would have rather seen Ripley, Newt, Hicks and Bishop kicking ass again, than anything that Covenant offered. Ridley really dropped the ball with this
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Nov 17, 2018, 12:38:10 PM
I bet Fox wish they had taken a chance on Blomkamp's direct Aliens sequel now. I would have rather seen Ripley, Newt, Hicks and Bishop kicking ass again, than anything that Covenant offered. Ridley really dropped the ball with this
I totally agree with this sentiment. "Prometheus", for all its faults, I still personally enjoy. But Covenant? :-\
I, as well, enjoy Prometheus despite its many faults.
It also helps that Covenant is pretty damn genuinely good.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 17, 2018, 12:48:45 PM
Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Nov 17, 2018, 12:38:10 PM
I bet Fox wish they had taken a chance on Blomkamp's direct Aliens sequel now. I would have rather seen Ripley, Newt, Hicks and Bishop kicking ass again, than anything that Covenant offered. Ridley really dropped the ball with this
I totally agree with this sentiment. "Prometheus", for all its faults, I still personally enjoy. But Covenant? :-\
Nope! Not making that horrible fan service wet dream was the best decision Fox has made in a long time with this franchise.
Quote from: CainsSon on Nov 16, 2018, 10:13:39 PM
I dunno... ive worked in the art department on several features and it is just rather common place for the studio to keep certain things they deem potentially useful. It doesnt necessarily have to be used for sequels. Its a very strange process of elimination when a film wraps for the art department. I once watched a studio insist on keeping one of two portraits of Julia Roberts, made for a film... She asked for both, they gave her one and wanted to keep the other. Julia had contracted that she get to keep her wardrobe, and thenwhen she came to pick it up she tried to pick up the second portrait too. Her excuse? "what the hell are they gonnando with this other portrait of me in storage?" Reshoots had been completed. Not sure what ended up happening to that portrait, but Im currently typing this one my cellphone in the bed she shared in that film with a handsome costar... so none of what they keep or waste or give away and auction off really makes sense in any logical way. Im sure they may have been inclined to keep some stuff but it doesn't necessarily mean anything is solidly in the works. If they had dates to start shooting THAT does make sense.
We're talking about the bigger stuff here though. Storage costs for things like clothing or a portrait wouldn't be an issue either way. If there's no sequel or reshoots planned, these smaller items (especially the so-called "hero props") often make their way to places like Propstore which help to defray the production costs a teensy bit.
Quote from: David's Creation on Nov 16, 2018, 06:45:37 PM
I thought someone dug up a Fox production schedule that confirmed Covenant was slated to begin in that September as well... but that might have been proven fake. I can't find it now.
Can't recall anything about a Fox production schedule but Ridley did say back in May 2017 that he will be filming the sequel in 14 months time. So that would probably have put it closer to September 2018 rather than September 2017.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/05/10/alien-covenant-2-start-shooting-14-months/ (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/05/10/alien-covenant-2-start-shooting-14-months/)
I don't trust Ridley anymore. We need a new director for this. Also someone who prevents the best and very important scenes to be cut from the final product.
And maybe you do not throw the cash out for facehugger animations and landscapes with panoramic view? Just focus on the important stuff for once. That's plot, Xeno and Space Jockey (for real, you can't give them the same look of Prometheus????).
Why not Blomkamp? That could be good, for the Alien at least.
I heard Ridley Scott agreed to make some Disney movie, and in return they were gonna let him finish his trilogy.
He agreed to make a movie for Disney based on the Merlin Saga books by TA Barron alright. The "in return" part is just conjecture/wishful thinking by hopeful fans.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 17, 2018, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: David's Creation on Nov 16, 2018, 06:45:37 PM
I thought someone dug up a Fox production schedule that confirmed Covenant was slated to begin in that September as well... but that might have been proven fake. I can't find it now.
Can't recall anything about a Fox production schedule but Ridley did say back in May 2017 that he will be filming the sequel in 14 months time. So that would probably have put it closer to September 2018 rather than September 2017.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/05/10/alien-covenant-2-start-shooting-14-months/ (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/05/10/alien-covenant-2-start-shooting-14-months/)
Okay I sort of found what I was talking about...
http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/47179 (http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/47179)
This post references an Omega Underground article, but the Omega Underground website is gone now.
So if the Blu-ray.com post and Omega Underground article are to be believed, they were going to start pre-production in September of 2017, then roll cameras in the summer of 2018. This lines up with the "14 months" Ridley was talking about during the Covenant interviews. It is entirely possible that the script still had a long way to go by the time they pulled the plug, but I'm sure they had a rough outline.
I think Prometheus is flawed with its dialogue & Covenant with its compromises.
I don't blame Ridley Scott but the constraints of Studio & Fan expectations
Fancuts like the Chaos & Evanus editions demonstrate
that better films would have been achieved theatricallly by being half an hour longer. Hopefully we'll get a bumper Directors Cut trilogy when this is all done & dusted.
I am glad that David designed the Xenomorph per se, I know I'm in the minority but in regard of themes & protagonists in the Quadrilogy it makes linear sense.
I think it will be set up so creatures even more Alien than the Xenomorph have the potential to come into being via the black goo plot device, Making us in the long run have a soft spot for the Xenos coz they were created by an Android made & designed on Earth fighting against some aberration of the Engineers or beyond for many films to come to expand the Alien universe.
Quote from: Saggit on Nov 16, 2018, 09:05:32 AM
I've said it many times and will say it again: FOX! Take the franchise away from Scott! Let him create his AI stuff but as a separate thing from ALIEN. Since Prometheus I really don't like the direction ALIEN is going.
Exactly. I really hope this "Alien Awakening" never gets made tbh.
Quote from: Adam802 on Nov 18, 2018, 05:34:58 AM
Quote from: Saggit on Nov 16, 2018, 09:05:32 AM
I've said it many times and will say it again: FOX! Take the franchise away from Scott! Let him create his AI stuff but as a separate thing from ALIEN. Since Prometheus I really don't like the direction ALIEN is going.
Exactly. I really hope this "Alien Awakening" never gets made tbh.
It's Ridley Scott though. You'd have better luck gettin' a corndog away from Rosie O' Donnell. The man's reputation carries a lot of weight, even with Disney, I'd wager. They may humor him on one or two things like Alien, just so he'll do others for them in the future.
Quote from: David Weyland on Nov 17, 2018, 11:32:56 PM
I think Prometheus is flawed with its dialogue & Covenant with its compromises.
I don't blame Ridley Scott but the constraints of Studio & Fan expectations
Faults and all, I personally like "Prometheus". But in my humble opinion, I strongly disagree. There's no way I'm going to blame fans, or their expectation, for the calamity that is "Alien Covenant". Nor will I absolve Ridley Scott.
Quote from: David's Creation on Nov 17, 2018, 10:13:21 PM
Okay I sort of found what I was talking about...
http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/47179 (http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/47179)
This post references an Omega Underground article, but the Omega Underground website is gone now.
So if the Blu-ray.com post and Omega Underground article are to be believed, they were going to start pre-production in September of 2017, then roll cameras in the summer of 2018. This lines up with the "14 months" Ridley was talking about during the Covenant interviews. It is entirely possible that the script still had a long way to go by the time they pulled the plug, but I'm sure they had a rough outline.
Omega Underground is fairly solid, they're still around and have merged with Geeks WorldWide. And yeah, 14 months would have put it towards the end of summer 2018 (unless they were talking about the Aussie summer of course).
In that AVPG news article link I gave, Ridley also said; "We're writing [a sequel] now, as we speak". So yeah, like you said it does indeed look like they started writing it or at the very least outlining it. I think that quote of Ridley was taken at the press junket at the premiere. And I think about three weeks after that it would have become increasingly obvious that Covenant wasn't performing well at the box office. So I don't think a huge amount of writing was done either way.
Why are you all talking like this franchise still has a future? An R rated horror series that hasn't been profitable in theaters since the eighties? Disney will bury Alien and Predator deeper than Black Cauldron. All they really wanted from Fox was the X-Men, Avatar and their market shares and to get one step closer to that sweet, sweet entertainment monopoly they're listing after. Everything else is getting flushed. The Alien, Predator and AvP franchises are all over. Forever. Once the merger is finalized you can expect all those nifty little toys, comics, vidya and novels to get the axe too. Disney will not was money on anything that isnt taking off like a rocket.
I watched Alien today and listened to the Audio Commentary. The great Dan O' Bannon made a statement that is so very telling of the Alien franchise in its current state: "Familiarity breeds contempt." In other words, the Xenomorph no longer packs the punch it once did. Of the six films in the franchise only three are top-notch: Alien, Aliens, and yes, Prometheus. Prometheus, faults and all, was a refreshing take on the franchise. The biggest flaw I think was the whole Engineer human creation storyline. The other films: Alien 3, Alien: Resurrection, and Alien: Covenant along with the crossover films, AVP & AVP:R made the Xenomorph boring. In my humble opinion, a film adaptation of Alien: Isolation should have been Ridley's next Alien project after Prometheus.
"Familiarity breeds contempt."
Although:
Alien Isolation & Alien The Cold Forge.
+ (The prospect of an Alien prequel about the SJ in 2010-12 had people salivating much like the Alien itself.)
It was unfortunately written by people who wrote; Passengers, The Mummy, Into Darkness and Tomorrowland.
Ridley Scott has run out of extension lead, so much he will never connect the narrative, starting with Prometheus, to ALIEN.
Ok we get it you, Ridley, gave us a vision of an Engineer Race (unimaginative IMO) that didn't have anyone holding their breath for a sequel.
Scott even unceremoniously ditched his teased "Paradise" sequel, loose end. To say "that wasn't the engineers homeworld" was some coping mechanism.
ALIEN-Covenant was awesome as we finally got Xenomorphs against an intriguing "David" story-arc. But was the dip in box office to do with associations with Prometheus or ALIEN?
Ridley Scott was then clutching at straws with his whole "lets make an AI movie" given many critics said the android existentual crisis sub-plot, in Covenant, was more compelling than the Xenomorphs. I think we got the best of both worlds, although its frustrating that yet another loose end went nowhere.
Quote from: The Old One on Nov 19, 2018, 11:10:12 AM
"Familiarity breeds contempt."
Although:
Dan O Bannon is right to a degree. There is only so much you can do within a confined space, in the case of ALIEN literally and thematically speaking.
Most franchises increased their box office by going big and branching into other genres. I'd like a Director to create suspense, atmosphere and danger as much as the next person would like an ALIEN (1979) film.
But we haven't got time for that. It's time to go big or go home. IMO an ALIEN 5 whereby the crew finds the colony ship hijacked by David.
Quote from: PureKino on Nov 18, 2018, 11:30:33 PM
Why are you all talking like this franchise still has a future? An R rated horror series that hasn't been profitable in theaters since the eighties? Disney will bury Alien and Predator deeper than Black Cauldron. All they really wanted from Fox was the X-Men, Avatar and their market shares and to get one step closer to that sweet, sweet entertainment monopoly they're listing after. Everything else is getting flushed. The Alien, Predator and AvP franchises are all over. Forever. Once the merger is finalized you can expect all those nifty little toys, comics, vidya and novels to get the axe too. Disney will not was money on anything that isnt taking off like a rocket.
We're talking out of hope because we love this franchise.
And there is money to be made with it. Covenant and AVP were just barely profitable, but Prometheus was definitely profitable, and the merchandise, comics, books, & games are also money-makers. It all pales in comparison to Marvel earnings, but it would be dumb to just flush it all.
If they truly don't intend to do anything with it, then it would be stupid not to sell it to another company for a quick buck. I'm sure Warner Brothers, Paramount, or Universal Studios would be happy to own it.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 17, 2018, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: CainsSon on Nov 16, 2018, 10:13:39 PM
I dunno... ive worked in the art department on several features and it is just rather common place for the studio to keep certain things they deem potentially useful. It doesnt necessarily have to be used for sequels. Its a very strange process of elimination when a film wraps for the art department. I once watched a studio insist on keeping one of two portraits of Julia Roberts, made for a film... She asked for both, they gave her one and wanted to keep the other. Julia had contracted that she get to keep her wardrobe, and thenwhen she came to pick it up she tried to pick up the second portrait too. Her excuse? "what the hell are they gonnando with this other portrait of me in storage?" Reshoots had been completed. Not sure what ended up happening to that portrait, but Im currently typing this one my cellphone in the bed she shared in that film with a handsome costar... so none of what they keep or waste or give away and auction off really makes sense in any logical way. Im sure they may have been inclined to keep some stuff but it doesn't necessarily mean anything is solidly in the works. If they had dates to start shooting THAT does make sense.
We're talking about the bigger stuff here though. Storage costs for things like clothing or a portrait wouldn't be an issue either way. If there's no sequel or reshoots planned, these smaller items (especially the so-called "hero props") often make their way to places like Propstore which help to defray the production costs a teensy bit.
Large relative items like an Engineer/ SJ sculpt would certainly be the type of thing they would keep. Especially if Scott made some sort of note about what should or shouldn't be in mind for a sequel. That said, things like Wardrobe on a film like this takes up alot more "space" than you might think. It's more about cost/benefit. It's like moving across country with your furniture. Does it cost more to move the couch than replace the couch? The storage cost may actually be more than you'd imagine for something like a Space Jockey prop. They may keep the mold instead, for instance. Whereas, smaller sections of the cockpit of the Covenant would be something cheaper to save than re-fabricate.
In any case, its hard to say. What's reliable is if they had production dates planned / stage rental already... That type of thing is telling.
*Fixed quotes. Hicks.
I view this as a good thing. I did not like Covenant, and i would prefer a new writer anyways.
I listened today to a podcast with Neil Marshall andMick Garris. Neil said he would kill to direct an Alien movie. I think it is time to let someone on this franchise with a passion for it. Someone who es fan of it. Ridley is for me a wonderful visual director. But it seems he is working on alien without any plan. Stephen King said ones, that he needs always an end for a story at first. But it is changing all the time while he is writing. The story Ridley Scott is telling doesn't has any ending I believe.
What was the podcast?
https://postmortempodcast.libsyn.com/neil-marshall
This one?
Quote from: David's Creation on Nov 19, 2018, 05:44:21 PMAnd there is money to be made with it. Covenant and AVP were just barely profitable, but Prometheus was definitely profitable.
The thing with "Prometheus" is it wasn't sold as an Alien movie. It was sold as big budget, extravagant science fiction movie. And the main trailer was wonderful! I alone know a couple people who went to "Prometheus" having no idea it was even tied to Alien.
With that said, I think with Alien (and Predator), both can continue to be profitable franchises, but their ceiling is much lower than Marvel movies and the like. So the key to their success is making these films on lower budgets, and being happy with John Wick type of receipts. But is that enough for Disney?
It will be interesting to see how Disney will approach these properties. Smaller studios would love the smaller sized profits A&P could bring. But will the gargantuan Disney see small theatrical profits like that as a waste of their time? Will they target future A & P movies not released theatrically, but on their streaming service instead? We'll just have to wait and see.
They certainly need to make these movies cheaper. Disney won't sell off valuable IP either since 20thCF will continue as a studio under their umbrella, they already appointed leadership. Emma Watts running it. Series can benefit both franchises
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 22, 2018, 12:55:36 PM
What was the podcast?
https://postmortempodcast.libsyn.com/neil-marshall
This one?
That it is. Oh you really should listen to the podcast. There is one with Walter Hill talking about his career and the changes he did on the alien script. And there is also one with Fred Dekker I haven't listen to it yet. In that one with Neil Marshall he is also talking very short about he tried to get on Predators.
Thanks, man. I'll check it out.
i feel like a neil marshall alien would be scary and fun - dog solders, the descent - but not transcending like denis villeneuve or alex garland's would be
The Descent was terrifying. An Alien Movie like that would be great. He is also a fan of the classic action movies like Escape from NY. https://trailersfromhell.com/gurus/marshall-neil/ And he uses also as much practical effects as possible. His best movies are written by himself. I think he would be the right one. But he is also very busy with other projects. He did one of the greatest episodes in Game of Thrones and is also on Westworld and the Hellboy Reboot. I think he wouldn't come for his own with an alien pitch at the moment. But I hope he will at the right time.
Another thing is, when I liston to all the podcasts with all that moviemakers. Alien is one of the movies that made some of them. Let some years pass and I think there will be one director coming up with a great idea for a new movie. Well ok, I hope it is not Shane Black then ;)
But I also think Ridley Scott should do a lst movie of his origin story line. But the studio should tell him: "This is your budget, that should be the last movie with a right ending, and don't touch the f**king derelict ship from alien!" At the moment I feel a bit uncomfortable with the ending of covenant. It is open and I want to know where it goes next.
Quote from: El Pistolero on Nov 24, 2018, 08:25:17 AM
The Descent was terrifying. An Alien Movie like that would be great. He is also a fan of the classic action movies like Escape from LA Escape from New York.
I fixed it for you.
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Sadly, "Classic" and "Escape from LA" will never go together. :'(
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 16, 2018, 05:48:51 PM
Quote from: Saggit on Nov 16, 2018, 09:05:32 AM
I've said it many times and will say it again: FOX! Take the franchise away from Scott! Let him create his AI stuff but as a separate thing from ALIEN.
He's already doing his "AI stuff" as "a separate thing" in the form of a new television series for TNT called Raised by Wolves. In fact, I'm pretty sure a lot of his ideas for Covenant II will find their way into his new show.
Quote from: necrotard on Nov 16, 2018, 04:04:00 PM
Before the poor box office of Covenant, they sounded so ready to start rolling on the next movie a few months later. I can't imagine a script wasn't already in the works if they planned to shoot the next one so soon.
From what I've gleaned, certain Covenant props were put into storage in Sydney after they wrapped filming. However, a report later (Hicks can you confirm?) surfaced saying those props were destroyed after Covenant's disappointing box office results. I also suspect Scott's agreement with the Aussie government was originally for a three-film deal.
Things that were copyright fakes were destroyed such as the Bugatti Throne chair. All of David's Lab went into storage, that was supervised by Adam Johansen at ODD Studio. But that may have been for the re-creation of the set for a convention. As for other props, I don't have any info.
Bit of an FYI since I know it caused some confusion and I certainly wasn't sure but I was able to confirm recently that Awakening was the title for Covenant 2.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 28, 2018, 08:39:56 PM
Bit of an FYI since I know it caused some confusion and I certainly wasn't sure but I was able to confirm recently that Awakening was the title for Covenant 2.
If they picked a title, I'm guessing they already had a story concept that lead to that title.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 28, 2018, 08:39:56 PM
Bit of an FYI since I know it caused some confusion and I certainly wasn't sure but I was able to confirm recently that Awakening was the title for Covenant 2.
thanks, did you find out any other details?
Quote from: toro on Nov 23, 2018, 11:19:36 PM
i feel like a neil marshall alien would be scary and fun - dog solders, the descent - but not transcending like denis villeneuve or alex garland's would be
Dog Soldiers is amazing, but that kinda is his Alien movie. It would be weird having him make a tribute to Aliens, then get to actually make an Alien movie. We'd either be sitting there saying - " this is just Dog Soldiers with Aliens" or "This is just a copy of Dog Soldiers which was a Copy of Aliens"
In some kinda weird loop.
Dog Soldiers is an enjoyable movie, but I think more like The Descent as an Alien Movie. Not too much action, very dark and claustrophobic environment and a great cast of females. That is something I wish for an alien movie. I want to be afraid of that creatures and I don't want to see them as canon fodder again.
I noticed that the IMDb page for Covenant 2 has been taken down.
Huge bummer.
No Prometheus 2
No Alien Covenant 2.
Doesn't necessarily mean we won't get a final Prequel.
I don't think a IMDB page means much anyway. At least I hope so..
Quote from: David's Creation on Jan 18, 2019, 05:08:28 PM
I noticed that the IMDb page for Covenant 2 has been taken down.
Huge bummer.
No te asustes.
Quote from: David's Creation on Jan 18, 2019, 05:08:28 PM
I noticed that the IMDb page for Covenant 2 has been taken down.
Huge bummer.
Blomkamp's Alien IMDb page has also been taken down. Probably just IMDb cleaning up stuff that ain't going anywhere.
I hate to be a downer, but it's hard not to see the writing on the wall here. Between Covenant, The Predator, The fate of Isolation 2, the Disney-Fox merger, and the complete lack of any script or studio news, the future of both franchises looks grim. It really might be over, folks. I'd actually bet on it.
You're being melodramatic. The "fate" of Isolation 2 was sealed when the first one didn't sell well enough. Movies not being well-received hasn't killed the franchises -- not in 1990, 1992, 1997, 2004, or 2007.
Worst case scenario we get another long gap between movies and make do with EU and merchandise. The franchises aren't dying any time soon.
The 'franchise' has long term plans mapped out. Films are a different matter, but they'll make more at some point.
Oh mighty SM, tell us your secrets, please, your grace. ;D
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Quote from: Evanus on Jan 18, 2019, 08:53:40 PM
I don't think a IMDB page means much anyway. At least I hope so..
In any case, if another film gets made, they better make the most of it, and treat it like a final film.
I think Ridley planned several sequels after Covenant and after the average to mediocre response, he decided to take a different approach and condense all ideas of those several planned sequels into one final movie, that is what I think the case with the sequel is. So, naturally, that would take a bit of time, especially script wise, they had layouts for several films and now they need to put all that into one single canvas. I doubt Ridley will let the story unfinished.
Quote from: Enoch on Jan 19, 2019, 02:39:04 PM
I doubt Ridley will let the story unfinished.
Not really his call. He can be director and coproduce with Scott Free Productions, but it's not his property. We can only wait and see what happens.
Quote from: Stitch on Jan 19, 2019, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: Enoch on Jan 19, 2019, 02:39:04 PM
I doubt Ridley will let the story unfinished.
Not really his call.
"Nothing to do, with all your clout"
Quote from: Local Trouble on Apr 16, 2018, 11:56:25 AM
My assumption is that Disney will acquire Alien. Even if they don't, Ridley will inevitably stop making Alien movies sometime soon. Hell, Disney may even decide that he's gone off the reservation and discard his ideas just like they did with Lucas' scripts for the sequel trilogy.
If 20th Century Fox will still exist under Disney as a separate brand I think a third prequel is quite possible. But then again, reality is often disappointing.. so we'll see.