Watch the new teaser for #ThePredator now, in theaters everywhere September 14. pic.twitter.com/lUrWjvhyg3
— Predator (@Predator) May 10, 2018
Quote from: Xerxész on May 10, 2018, 01:07:45 PM
Shuriken is there. :)
Quote from: SiL on May 10, 2018, 01:08:25 PM
Good God am I not digging that mask.
I'll reserve judgement on the rest, but that mask looks f**king goofy.
Digging the bit where it slits the guy's throat, but even from the trailer it doesn't look like they made a whole lot of effort to make the Predator seem tall.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:08:09 PMQuote from: Xerxész on May 10, 2018, 01:07:45 PM
Shuriken is there. :)
yeah avp style :D
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:10:09 PMThe thumbnail image is a nice, clear, HD shot of it, though :P We get multiple angles throughout the trailer.
well it's hard to tell from a teaser only ( a couple of shots)
Quote from: Xerxész on May 10, 2018, 01:12:45 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:08:09 PMQuote from: Xerxész on May 10, 2018, 01:07:45 PM
Shuriken is there. :)
yeah avp style :D
And that 'glaive' looking weapon was the Shuriken itself. :)
Anyway, it matches quite well with the leaked script...
Should we worry?
Quote from: SiL on May 10, 2018, 01:14:28 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:10:09 PMThe thumbnail image is a nice, clear, HD shot of it, though :P We get multiple angles throughout the trailer.
well it's hard to tell from a teaser only ( a couple of shots)
I just think it looks goofy. And the suit as a whole looks like a cosplay design, but that I'll reserve until we see more.
Quote from: felix on May 10, 2018, 01:09:15 PM
The opening bit with the kid is just bad.
Quote from: KillCrites on May 10, 2018, 01:17:01 PM
I loved the trailer a lot. The part with the kid didn't bug me at all and the predator looks badass.
Also I spotted Jake Busey and the original Predator mask here.
(https://image.ibb.co/gwfMFd/Screenshot_2018_05_10_at_9_13_06_AM.png)
Quote from: Darkoo on May 10, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
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Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:10:09 PM
well it's hard to tell from a teaser only ( a couple of shots)
Quote from: Darkoo on May 10, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
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Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:18:21 PM
the predator helmet to the left isen't that from avp 2 the predator that dies on the ship before it crashes ?
Quote from: Darkoo on May 10, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
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Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:19:30 PMBad? It looks badass!Quote from: Darkoo on May 10, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc1o_cFW0AAAeNG.jpg:large)
dang that look's kinda bad :(
Quote from: KillCrites on May 10, 2018, 01:20:23 PMIt's basically Scar with a different paint job and a slightly different set of teeth. The mandibles are still way off.
Okay these are the best unmasked Predators we've seen since P2 for sure.
Quote from: 343 on May 10, 2018, 01:20:40 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:19:30 PMBad? It looks badass!Quote from: Darkoo on May 10, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
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dang that look's kinda bad :(
Quote from: SiL on May 10, 2018, 01:22:20 PMQuote from: KillCrites on May 10, 2018, 01:20:23 PMIt's basically Scar with a different paint job and a slightly different set of teeth. The mandibles are still way off.
Okay these are the best unmasked Predators we've seen since P2 for sure.
Quote from: Darkoo on May 10, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc1o_cFW0AAAeNG.jpg:large)
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:22:34 PMPictures looks different than the movie/moving pictures imhoQuote from: 343 on May 10, 2018, 01:20:40 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:19:30 PMBad? It looks badass!Quote from: Darkoo on May 10, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc1o_cFW0AAAeNG.jpg:large)
dang that look's kinda bad :(
i dont know the room is to bright it feels kinda off it's hard to explain.
Quote from: 343 on May 10, 2018, 01:24:53 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:22:34 PMPictures looks different than the movie/moving pictures imhoQuote from: 343 on May 10, 2018, 01:20:40 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:19:30 PMBad? It looks badass!Quote from: Darkoo on May 10, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc1o_cFW0AAAeNG.jpg:large)
dang that look's kinda bad :(
i dont know the room is to bright it feels kinda off it's hard to explain.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 10, 2018, 01:25:41 PM
The chest on that guy is weird.
The pecks look like they're hard edged like armor, but it looks like bare skin.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:26:05 PMVery partly true at all. :-)Quote from: 343 on May 10, 2018, 01:24:53 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:22:34 PMPictures looks different than the movie/moving pictures imhoQuote from: 343 on May 10, 2018, 01:20:40 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 01:19:30 PMBad? It looks badass!Quote from: Darkoo on May 10, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc1o_cFW0AAAeNG.jpg:large)
dang that look's kinda bad :(
i dont know the room is to bright it feels kinda off it's hard to explain.
not true at all.
Quote from: KillCrites on May 10, 2018, 01:27:48 PM
I'm not feeling the Scar comparisons at all.
Quote from: goose_3387 on May 10, 2018, 01:29:23 PM
Was the Upgrade in the trailer?
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 10, 2018, 01:30:15 PM
Looks awesome, liking the design and the look of the picture a lot.
The effects look great too, you can tell they spend money on this.
Quote from: gabgrave on May 10, 2018, 01:30:12 PM
The ship remote doesn't sit right with me. I mean, can you image a predator holding that thing and going 'whoosh' 'pew pew' while trying to land his ship? And the fact that the other preds on the ship can't stop the remote control boggles the mind. ???
Quote from: bobby brown on May 10, 2018, 01:20:12 PMQuote from: Darkoo on May 10, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
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AWWW shieeet, looks cool!
Quote from: Cereal Killer on May 10, 2018, 02:03:11 PM
WHINGE WHINGE F**KING WHINGE What a bunch of cry babies are on this forum no wonder this forum is dying. I've just showed this to my brother who's the biggest predator fan ever & he hates it we're not going to cinema..,.. remember to wipe your pussy after pee , He's not much of a fan really is he then? The eyebrows are off, the skin I don't like it, honestly sound like women.
Quote from: Cereal Killer on May 10, 2018, 02:03:11 PMThanks for the laugh buddy :-)
WHINGE WHINGE F**KING WHINGE What a bunch of cry babies are on this forum no wonder this forum is dying. I've just showed this to my brother who's the biggest predator fan ever & he hates it we're not going to cinema..,.. remember to wipe your pussy after pee , He's not much of a fan really is he then? The eyebrows are off, the skin I don't like it, honestly sound like women.
Most of you hated the movie soon it was announced & nothing would ever change your mind, honesty grown ass men crying over how a predator movie looks or how the bio mask looks how this or that & the kid really need to harden the f**k up.
Quote from: Cereal Killer on May 10, 2018, 02:03:11 PM
WHINGE WHINGE F**KING WHINGE What a bunch of cry babies are on this forum no wonder this forum is dying. I've just showed this to my brother who's the biggest predator fan ever & he hates it we're not going to cinema..,.. remember to wipe your pussy after pee , He's not much of a fan really is he then? The eyebrows are off, the skin I don't like it, honestly sound like women.
Most of you hated the movie soon it was announced & nothing would ever change your mind, honesty grown ass men crying over how a predator movie looks or how the bio mask looks how this or that & the kid really need to harden the f**k up.
Quote from: newbeing on May 10, 2018, 02:15:48 PM
Eesh. Got a very AvP Requiem vibe from that trailer. Just hoping it was a badly cut trailer. I will still probably see it no matter how shit the trailers are, but between this and the bad word of mouth from the screenings, my excitement for this has dropped significantly.
I thought that Zatoichi vs Predator fan trailer was honestly more exciting.
Quote from: newbeing on May 10, 2018, 02:15:48 PMGot a very AvP Requiem vibe from that trailer.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:17:31 PMQuote from: newbeing on May 10, 2018, 02:15:48 PM
Eesh. Got a very AvP Requiem vibe from that trailer. Just hoping it was a badly cut trailer. I will still probably see it no matter how shit the trailers are, but between this and the bad word of mouth from the screenings, my excitement for this has dropped significantly.
I thought that Zatoichi vs Predator fan trailer was honestly more exciting.
to be fair you should never listen to reviews we are all differend follow your heart man ( damn that was deep okay im gonna take a nap)
Quote from: newbeing on May 10, 2018, 02:21:20 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:17:31 PMQuote from: newbeing on May 10, 2018, 02:15:48 PM
Eesh. Got a very AvP Requiem vibe from that trailer. Just hoping it was a badly cut trailer. I will still probably see it no matter how shit the trailers are, but between this and the bad word of mouth from the screenings, my excitement for this has dropped significantly.
I thought that Zatoichi vs Predator fan trailer was honestly more exciting.
to be fair you should never listen to reviews we are all differend follow your heart man ( damn that was deep okay im gonna take a nap)
I'll give it the benefit of the doubt when I see it. There are just as many good movies with bad trailers as there are bad movies with great trailers.
Quote from: skhellter on May 10, 2018, 02:28:01 PMDon't push it.
The MEG actually has a better teaser trailer than this...
THE MEG. :D
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:31:29 PM
this is how you do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf4bnwX_Ho0
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 02:28:59 PM3 point laser comes from there instead of at the top of bio
And i could be imagining things, but i swear when the pred picks up McKenna, the lower part of his mask glows red or something...
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 02:32:48 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:31:29 PM
this is how you do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf4bnwX_Ho0
That's how you "did" it.
Other era.
Quote from: ThePredatorUK on May 10, 2018, 02:34:32 PMLogical. "Let's move from line of sight to line of jaw, because it looks cool and different".Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 02:28:59 PM3 point laser comes from there instead of at the top of bio
And i could be imagining things, but i swear when the pred picks up McKenna, the lower part of his mask glows red or something...
Quote from: ThePredatorUK on May 10, 2018, 02:34:32 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 02:28:59 PM3 point laser comes from there instead of at the top of bio
And i could be imagining things, but i swear when the pred picks up McKenna, the lower part of his mask glows red or something...
Quote from: Hollywood on May 10, 2018, 02:37:01 PM
I'm glad they didn't give away death scenes of primary characters. Those are probably all awesome money shots (probably will see at least one by the time we get a full trailer).
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 02:38:07 PMLogical. "Let's move from line of sight to line of jaw, because it looks cool and different".
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 02:38:07 PMQuote from: ThePredatorUK on May 10, 2018, 02:34:32 PMLogical. "Let's move from line of sight to line of jaw, because it looks cool and different".Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 02:28:59 PM3 point laser comes from there instead of at the top of bio
And i could be imagining things, but i swear when the pred picks up McKenna, the lower part of his mask glows red or something...
Idiots.
Quote from: Osimandias on May 10, 2018, 02:43:59 PM
I think we are all have to wait until the movie is finally out. Maybe he is not as bad as the most expect to be. The only thing that I don't understand its is why they mix their DNA with other DNA... maybe the first predator has also an enhanced DNA hmmmm and it never was told.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:45:47 PMthe whole dna thing goes against everything we saw from predator 1 and 2
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 02:46:19 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:45:47 PMthe whole dna thing goes against everything we saw from predator 1 and 2
In what way?
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:48:29 PMfor starters they come here to hunt for trophy's not collecting our dna :3 watch the movies again.
Quote from: JokersWarPig on May 10, 2018, 02:50:56 PM
I'm going to reserve judgment until some more trailers drop...but right now I really don't know about this :-\
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:48:29 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 02:46:19 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:45:47 PMthe whole dna thing goes against everything we saw from predator 1 and 2
In what way?
for starters they come here to hunt for trophy's not collecting our dna :3 watch the movies again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGUFQL8UWo
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 03:00:17 PMThing is, it never was about that and there's no need for it besides adding something fresh for the sake of it. No Sir, I don't like it one bit and I'm quite open to change.Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:48:29 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 02:46:19 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:45:47 PMthe whole dna thing goes against everything we saw from predator 1 and 2
In what way?
for starters they come here to hunt for trophy's not collecting our dna :3 watch the movies again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGUFQL8UWo
But that doesn't prevent them to have other motives too, no ? They hunt for sport AND for some DNA from the worthiest opponent ? That doesn't sound contradictory.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 03:00:17 PM
But that doesn't prevent them to have other motives too, no ? They hunt for sport AND for some DNA from the worthiest opponent ? That doesn't sound contradictory.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 02:46:19 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:45:47 PMthe whole dna thing goes against everything we saw from predator 1 and 2
In what way?
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 03:00:17 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:48:29 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 02:46:19 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:45:47 PMthe whole dna thing goes against everything we saw from predator 1 and 2
In what way?
for starters they come here to hunt for trophy's not collecting our dna :3 watch the movies again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGUFQL8UWo
But that doesn't prevent them to have other motives too, no ? They hunt for sport AND for some DNA from the worthiest opponent ? That doesn't sound contradictory.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 02:40:19 PMGreyback didn't wear a mask. If you watch P1 or simply remember: in P1 the laser lines up with line of sight, aims the slaving plasma caster with a slight delay. It follows where you look. Not where your chin is at.Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 02:38:07 PMLogical. "Let's move from line of sight to line of jaw, because it looks cool and different".
It's a laser pointer. Why does it need to be lined up with their line of sight?
Everyone forgetting ol' Greyback in P2 had his pointer actually mounted on his cannon (which realistically would make a lot more sense anyway).
Quote from: howard.moody.566 on May 10, 2018, 03:02:45 PMWell, yes, with a bigger budget.
AVP Requiem all over again.
Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 03:03:54 PMshiny bulky slashers monsters instead of creepy rastafarian hunters with actual character
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 03:04:16 PMit does when the point of them coming to earth is to hunt and to prove themself ( aaah what a great day of hunting oh well time for my substances abuse)
Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 03:07:19 PM
I never was into this whole clan thing where one has to prove himself... it's so on the nose, like that shot of the Predator in avp where he has an alien skull on his spear and does chestpounds... no no noooo!
Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 03:03:54 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 02:46:19 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:45:47 PMthe whole dna thing goes against everything we saw from predator 1 and 2
In what way?
shiny bulky slashers monsters instead of creepy rastafarian hunters with actual character
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 03:08:18 PMQuote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 03:07:19 PM
I never was into this whole clan thing where one has to prove himself... it's so on the nose, like that shot of the Predator in avp where he has an alien skull on his spear and does chestpounds... no no noooo!
predator 2 did it the right way.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 03:09:35 PMand on top of that shane black got a fetish with kids in his movies
hint hint ?
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 03:10:05 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 03:09:35 PMand on top of that shane black got a fetish with kids in his movies
hint hint ?
::)
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 03:09:35 PMI don't mind kids, I do mind when they become plot devices in the most stereotypical way.
and on top of that shane black got a fetish with kids in his movies
hint hint ?
Quote from: Xerxész on May 10, 2018, 02:41:56 PMwe ain't seen the upgrade yet
At least the Upgrade has a mask...it seems.
In the script he has no mask.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 03:04:16 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 03:00:17 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:48:29 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 02:46:19 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:45:47 PMthe whole dna thing goes against everything we saw from predator 1 and 2
In what way?
for starters they come here to hunt for trophy's not collecting our dna :3 watch the movies again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGUFQL8UWo
But that doesn't prevent them to have other motives too, no ? They hunt for sport AND for some DNA from the worthiest opponent ? That doesn't sound contradictory.
it does when the point of them coming to earth is to hunt and to prove themself ( aaah what a great day of hunting oh well time for my substances abuse)
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 03:17:26 PMyes it was.Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 03:04:16 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 03:00:17 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:48:29 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 02:46:19 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:45:47 PMthe whole dna thing goes against everything we saw from predator 1 and 2
In what way?
for starters they come here to hunt for trophy's not collecting our dna :3 watch the movies again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGUFQL8UWo
But that doesn't prevent them to have other motives too, no ? They hunt for sport AND for some DNA from the worthiest opponent ? That doesn't sound contradictory.
it does when the point of them coming to earth is to hunt and to prove themself ( aaah what a great day of hunting oh well time for my substances abuse)
It was never established clearly that it was their only purpose
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 03:12:21 PMOh lord, your one of those "just be glad you get a watered down version of your favorite film, it's better than nothing" people, aren't you? :P
Embrace the change people.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 03:17:26 PMMaybe I missed a film in which it stated otherwise, but Predator, Predator 2, AvP, AvP-R and Predators all where pretty conclusive when it comes to this.Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 03:04:16 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 03:00:17 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:48:29 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 02:46:19 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:45:47 PMthe whole dna thing goes against everything we saw from predator 1 and 2
In what way?
for starters they come here to hunt for trophy's not collecting our dna :3 watch the movies again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGUFQL8UWo
But that doesn't prevent them to have other motives too, no ? They hunt for sport AND for some DNA from the worthiest opponent ? That doesn't sound contradictory.
it does when the point of them coming to earth is to hunt and to prove themself ( aaah what a great day of hunting oh well time for my substances abuse)
It was never established clearly that it was their only purpose
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 03:18:41 PMyes it was.
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 03:19:10 PMOh lord, your one of those "just be glad you get a watered down version of your favorite film, it's better than nothing" people, aren't you? :P
Quote from: newbeing on May 10, 2018, 02:59:55 PM
I don't mind the DNA splicing angle, but what makes my eyes roll is whenever a character somehow explicitly knows what the monster/alien is doing and why, and has to lay it out as exposition. Granted it may be more carefully revealed in the movie, but for them to so flatly explain it in this trailer feels like a big reveal that could have been saved for the movie.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 03:18:41 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 03:17:26 PMyes it was.Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 03:04:16 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 03:00:17 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:48:29 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 02:46:19 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 02:45:47 PMthe whole dna thing goes against everything we saw from predator 1 and 2
In what way?
for starters they come here to hunt for trophy's not collecting our dna :3 watch the movies again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGUFQL8UWo
But that doesn't prevent them to have other motives too, no ? They hunt for sport AND for some DNA from the worthiest opponent ? That doesn't sound contradictory.
it does when the point of them coming to earth is to hunt and to prove themself ( aaah what a great day of hunting oh well time for my substances abuse)
It was never established clearly that it was their only purpose
Quote from: D88M on May 10, 2018, 03:08:21 PM
They took so long on delivering a trailer to deliver this? It looks totally generic, could be any random action movie, typical crappy dialogues, IM3 was crap, the trailer shows and says nothing about the movie. And are those the damned Shurikens from the crappy AVP movies and crappy AVP game? No hope in this movie at all honestly
Quote from: XenoVC on May 10, 2018, 03:29:50 PMyou've only seen a 1.30 teaser, you'll get more answers when you see the full trailer and movie
I can't get over the inciting event in plot being the kid unknowingly driving the Predator ship if that's the case. Editing got me messed up there.
Despite Requiem-like setting, we have a dymanic, intriguing cast in line with the franchise at large and not pure b-movie slasher tv putz.
Shuriken is straight up pulled out of AvP down to the design. Whaaaaat.
How would they have the original Predator's bio-mask if only Dutch saw him and he vaporized?
Genuinely do not know what the extent of this hybrid angle is going to be, but the introduction of it is just inviting people to go straight to Jurassic World in the reboot realm.
No hint of any suggested teamups between species which is a relief.
Quote from: XenoVC on May 10, 2018, 03:29:50 PM
I can't get over the inciting event in plot being the kid unknowingly driving the Predator ship if that's the case. Editing got me messed up there.
Despite Requiem-like setting, we have a dymanic, intriguing cast in line with the franchise at large and not pure b-movie slasher tv putz.
Shuriken is straight up pulled out of AvP down to the design. Whaaaaat.
How would they have the original Predator's bio-mask if only Dutch saw him and he vaporized?
Genuinely do not know what the extent of this hybrid angle is going to be, but the introduction of it is just inviting people to go straight to Jurassic World in the reboot realm.
No hint of any suggested teamups between species which is a relief.
Quote from: ThePredatorUK on May 10, 2018, 03:33:54 PMQuote from: XenoVC on May 10, 2018, 03:29:50 PMyou've only seen a 1.30 teaser, you'll get more answers when you see the full trailer and movie
I can't get over the inciting event in plot being the kid unknowingly driving the Predator ship if that's the case. Editing got me messed up there.
Despite Requiem-like setting, we have a dymanic, intriguing cast in line with the franchise at large and not pure b-movie slasher tv putz.
Shuriken is straight up pulled out of AvP down to the design. Whaaaaat.
How would they have the original Predator's bio-mask if only Dutch saw him and he vaporized?
Genuinely do not know what the extent of this hybrid angle is going to be, but the introduction of it is just inviting people to go straight to Jurassic World in the reboot realm.
No hint of any suggested teamups between species which is a relief.
Quote from: PredBabe on May 10, 2018, 03:37:00 PM
I'm loving the Predator coming down from the ceiling- or whatever- and slicing the guy's throat. Completely hyped.
Quote from: newbeing on May 10, 2018, 03:44:25 PM
"They're splicing themselves with our DNA!"
[Later]
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/44DhLx02epc/hqdefault.jpg
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on May 10, 2018, 03:41:39 PM
I just wish they weren't clearly afraid of showing people how funny the movie is. That is a directive that comes from the studio or marketing dept. They're spooked by early fanboy complaints.
Instead you just have a very brief, fine but not terribly standout teaser. If you worry about offending nobody you get nowhere.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 03:46:24 PMQuote from: SpeedyMaxx on May 10, 2018, 03:41:39 PM
I just wish they weren't clearly afraid of showing people how funny the movie is. That is a directive that comes from the studio or marketing dept. They're spooked by early fanboy complaints.
Instead you just have a very brief, fine but not terribly standout teaser. If you worry about offending nobody you get nowhere.
Maybe the movie isn't that funny anymore after few changes
Quote from: MrPeterKeyes666 on May 10, 2018, 03:47:44 PM
This trailer was probably edited before the reshoots. Would not be surprised if some shots in here are not in the final movie.
Quote from: Cereal Killer on May 10, 2018, 02:03:11 PM
WHINGE WHINGE F**KING WHINGE What a bunch of cry babies are on this forum no wonder this forum is dying. I've just showed this to my brother who's the biggest predator fan ever & he hates it we're not going to cinema..,.. remember to wipe your pussy after pee , He's not much of a fan really is he then? The eyebrows are off, the skin I don't like it, honestly sound like women.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 03:22:43 PMThe trailer does not contradict the script. The script neglects largely what made the first two films great. It conjurs up new lore that does not fit well with the established.
Skull splitter you have seen a minute and half sneak peak , how do you know it's "watered" down ? ???
Azamultic thanks bro ;)
Quote from: PredBabe on May 10, 2018, 03:37:00 PM
I'm loving the Predator coming down from the ceiling- or whatever- and slicing the guy's throat. Completely hyped.
Quote from: reecebomb on May 10, 2018, 04:03:38 PMAVPR had a better trailer but the movie was crap
Are Strause brothers behind this, everything about this trailer looks cheap'n'tacky, esp the music... Tbh AvP:R really had a better trailer. Hopefully the trailer isn't representative of the films quality, it still might end up being a fun kids action flick.
Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMI have the feeling that some folks are so attached to what they feel Predator should be that they won't accept anything new.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything... good to see a lot of people didn't like the trailer. I think the cast will be quite solid but I don't like this overly clinical sci fy channel feel.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 04:10:24 PMA tribal race of intergallactic hunters resort to high texh splicing to stay ahead of the curve? Nice plot twist, but like the hybrid shit in Jurassic World totally unnecessary. It feels like cheap writing, give them a new trick to play with without actual need for it.
Skull splitter that's only your opinion though , what exactly has been shown in this trailer that's contradictory to the lore ? Nothing. I'm liking the feel of the film there's nothing wrong with that.
Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMThis is what I meant earlier.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything...
Quote from: Master on May 10, 2018, 04:24:17 PMI thought there was only one Predator in the trailer, if not then maybe they're all part of the same clan or something.
Why all new preds have thesame masks?
Quote from: KillCrites on May 10, 2018, 04:22:16 PMQuote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMI have the feeling that some folks are so attached to what they feel Predator should be that they won't accept anything new.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything... good to see a lot of people didn't like the trailer. I think the cast will be quite solid but I don't like this overly clinical sci fy channel feel.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 04:21:36 PM
The thing is sometimes fans are desperate to hate anything , and just won't accept anything new , way to stuck in their ways with their own vision of their favourite character, and won't accept change .
I adore predator and for me it felt like predator.
This was a one and half minute trailer , it's too early to speculate and for me it did its job , which was to sell it to me. ;D
Quote from: Master on May 10, 2018, 04:24:17 PM€, $, £. Money.
Why all new preds have thesame masks?
Quote from: KillCrites on May 10, 2018, 04:22:16 PMQuote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMI have the feeling that some folks are so attached to what they feel Predator should be that they won't accept anything new.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything... good to see a lot of people didn't like the trailer. I think the cast will be quite solid but I don't like this overly clinical sci fy channel feel.
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 04:29:42 PMQuote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 04:10:24 PMA tribal race of intergallactic hunters resort to high texh splicing to stay ahead of the curve? Nice plot twist, but like the hybrid shit in Jurassic World totally unnecessary. It feels like cheap writing, give them a new trick to play with without actual need for it.
Skull splitter that's only your opinion though , what exactly has been shown in this trailer that's contradictory to the lore ? Nothing. I'm liking the feel of the film there's nothing wrong with that.Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMThis is what I meant earlier.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything...
Also: no forced humor? What about the guys commenting on the interogation? Cringe.
I've seen people shouting about the comics. What comics mention intensive splicing?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 04:46:43 PM
The kid isn't controlling the Predator ship.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 04:46:43 PM
I'll still reserve judgement on the whole DNA splicing thing until I see it all pieced together. I don't think you can unequivocally state that it's un-Predator for them to be doing it and they can't have been doing that. I do like that Black and Dekker are being brave and taking a big leap with actually moving the mythology forward. I think the Predator franchise is really versatile and I'm keen to see how someone with Black's pedigree handles it.
Quote from: Xerxész on May 10, 2018, 05:11:28 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 04:46:43 PM
The kid isn't controlling the Predator ship.
No, he isn't. The problem is not with that scene. Never was.
The problem is thatSpoiler
in the end of the film Rory is literally controlling the Ark...from inside the ship.[close]
Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:59:07 PMThis is the most unique story we've ever had in a Predator movie, idk what you're talking about.Quote from: KillCrites on May 10, 2018, 04:22:16 PMQuote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMI have the feeling that some folks are so attached to what they feel Predator should be that they won't accept anything new.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything... good to see a lot of people didn't like the trailer. I think the cast will be quite solid but I don't like this overly clinical sci fy channel feel.
but it doesn't look new... it looks uninspired...
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 05:14:16 PM
This is the problem you have when you form opinions based on a really old version of the script.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:01:10 PMQuote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 04:29:42 PMQuote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 04:10:24 PMA tribal race of intergallactic hunters resort to high texh splicing to stay ahead of the curve? Nice plot twist, but like the hybrid shit in Jurassic World totally unnecessary. It feels like cheap writing, give them a new trick to play with without actual need for it.
Skull splitter that's only your opinion though , what exactly has been shown in this trailer that's contradictory to the lore ? Nothing. I'm liking the feel of the film there's nothing wrong with that.Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMThis is what I meant earlier.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything...
Also: no forced humor? What about the guys commenting on the interogation? Cringe.
I've seen people shouting about the comics. What comics mention intensive splicing?
Damn you cringe easily :P
A lot of people hated Iron Man 3 despite it being a fairly decent movie in terms of directing, but of course most of the people don't give a shit about directing and just want their beloved iron man to do this and that... It's cinema first and foremost, predator or not... And Shane Black is good at cinema, i think it matters greatly. But hey i'm wasting my time anyway, like i said too many people don't care about filmmaking. They don't realize they have a good director. And some of them don't seem to understand jack shit about editing a trailer either regarding all the complaints about the kid part and the ship crashing :laugh:
Quote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:06:07 PMI'm there for Shane Black. He hasn't let me down yet.
Quote from: newagescamartist on May 10, 2018, 05:18:13 PM
Iron Man 3 was pretty terrible, but that's because the script was terrible. If The Predator turns out to be on par with Iron Man 3 it's probably time to retire the franchise.
Quote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:20:41 PM
Iron Man 3 is the only one I feel that artistically tried anything different. The rest have been vanilla factory processed time wasters.
It also took over a billion. :)
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 05:21:35 PMQuote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:06:07 PMI'm there for Shane Black. He hasn't let me down yet.
This is basically what's getting me through all the people raging over this and that...
I've never seen a Shane Black movie I didn't enjoy the hell out of.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 05:23:21 PMQuote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:20:41 PM
Iron Man 3 is the only one I feel that artistically tried anything different. The rest have been vanilla factory processed time wasters.
It also took over a billion. :)
just because it made alot of money dosen't mean its good :)
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 05:21:35 PMQuote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:06:07 PMI'm there for Shane Black. He hasn't let me down yet.
This is basically what's getting me through all the people raging over this and that...
I've never seen a Shane Black movie I didn't enjoy the hell out of.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 05:23:27 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 05:21:35 PMQuote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:06:07 PMI'm there for Shane Black. He hasn't let me down yet.
This is basically what's getting me through all the people raging over this and that...
I've never seen a Shane Black movie I didn't enjoy the hell out of.
Yeah, same. It's why I'm so keen to see how he handles the material and specifics that sound risky for the series.Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 05:23:21 PMQuote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:20:41 PM
Iron Man 3 is the only one I feel that artistically tried anything different. The rest have been vanilla factory processed time wasters.
It also took over a billion. :)
just because it made alot of money dosen't mean its good :)
It did more than just make a lot of money. It was also rather well enjoyed. :)
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 05:23:21 PMjust because it made alot of money dosen't mean its good :)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 05:21:53 PM80 on Rotten Tomatoes, 79 for audience. 7.2 on IMDB. 1.2 billion box office...if The Predator approaches Iron Man 3 levels I think we're safe. More people enjoyed it than not.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 05:23:21 PMQuote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:20:41 PM
Iron Man 3 is the only one I feel that artistically tried anything different. The rest have been vanilla factory processed time wasters.
It also took over a billion. :)
just because it made alot of money dosen't mean its good :)
Quote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:26:44 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 05:23:21 PMQuote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:20:41 PM
Iron Man 3 is the only one I feel that artistically tried anything different. The rest have been vanilla factory processed time wasters.
It also took over a billion. :)
just because it made alot of money dosen't mean its good :)
In times where people have a lot of options and are frugal with money, yes, it does mean it was good. ;)
That type of box office means people were going back.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 05:29:02 PMQuote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:26:44 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 05:23:21 PMQuote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:20:41 PM
Iron Man 3 is the only one I feel that artistically tried anything different. The rest have been vanilla factory processed time wasters.
It also took over a billion. :)
just because it made alot of money dosen't mean its good :)
In times where people have a lot of options and are frugal with money, yes, it does mean it was good. ;)
That type of box office means people were going back.
well avatar must be a masterpiece then :D
Quote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:35:53 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 05:29:02 PMQuote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:26:44 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 05:23:21 PMQuote from: David 8 on May 10, 2018, 05:20:41 PM
Iron Man 3 is the only one I feel that artistically tried anything different. The rest have been vanilla factory processed time wasters.
It also took over a billion. :)
just because it made alot of money dosen't mean its good :)
In times where people have a lot of options and are frugal with money, yes, it does mean it was good. ;)
That type of box office means people were going back.
well avatar must be a masterpiece then :D
I will forever love Jim for The Terminator, T2 and Aliens, but I don't know what he was smoking when he made that... or what people were smoking to see it so many times. :laugh:
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 05:39:12 PMthat's my point just because something makes alot of money that dosen't mean it's good :)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 05:21:53 PM80 on Rotten Tomatoes, 79 for audience. 7.2 on IMDB. 1.2 billion box office...
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 05:40:31 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 05:39:12 PMthat's my point just because something makes alot of money that dosen't mean it's good :)
Again though:Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 05:21:53 PM80 on Rotten Tomatoes, 79 for audience. 7.2 on IMDB. 1.2 billion box office...
Quote from: newagescamartist on May 10, 2018, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:01:10 PMQuote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 04:29:42 PMQuote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 04:10:24 PMA tribal race of intergallactic hunters resort to high texh splicing to stay ahead of the curve? Nice plot twist, but like the hybrid shit in Jurassic World totally unnecessary. It feels like cheap writing, give them a new trick to play with without actual need for it.
Skull splitter that's only your opinion though , what exactly has been shown in this trailer that's contradictory to the lore ? Nothing. I'm liking the feel of the film there's nothing wrong with that.Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMThis is what I meant earlier.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything...
Also: no forced humor? What about the guys commenting on the interogation? Cringe.
I've seen people shouting about the comics. What comics mention intensive splicing?
Damn you cringe easily :P
A lot of people hated Iron Man 3 despite it being a fairly decent movie in terms of directing, but of course most of the people don't give a shit about directing and just want their beloved iron man to do this and that... It's cinema first and foremost, predator or not... And Shane Black is good at cinema, i think it matters greatly. But hey i'm wasting my time anyway, like i said too many people don't care about filmmaking. They don't realize they have a good director. And some of them don't seem to understand jack shit about editing a trailer either regarding all the complaints about the kid part and the ship crashing :laugh:
Iron Man 3 was pretty terrible, but that's because the script was terrible. If The Predator turns out to be on par with Iron Man 3 it's probably time to retire the franchise. There is nothing in Iron Man 3 that comes even close to being in the same league of film-making as the original 2 Predator movies. It was shallow commercial entertainment with little to no subtext. It was fast food entertainment. Garbage for the masses. Just my opinion of course. I expect more from properties like Predator.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 05:21:53 PMQuote from: newagescamartist on May 10, 2018, 05:18:13 PM
Iron Man 3 was pretty terrible, but that's because the script was terrible. If The Predator turns out to be on par with Iron Man 3 it's probably time to retire the franchise.
80 on Rotten Tomatoes, 79 for audience. 7.2 on IMDB. 1.2 billion box office...if The Predator approaches Iron Man 3 levels I think we're safe. More people enjoyed it than not.
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 05:44:45 PM
Well, Hicks, that is the opposite of what they're saying...
That most people liked it and paid money made it make a profit. It did not make it a good film. It was solid, well executed and looked good, but other than that it basically retold Pocahontas.
Quote from: ace3g on May 10, 2018, 05:44:34 PM
Looking forward to the first red-band trailer.
Quote from: Xerxész on May 10, 2018, 05:47:09 PM
The new mask does not fit well... ;D
Also, I think the 'tiny' plasmacaster is kinda confirmed...check those red lights on both sides of the mask. I think that's where the plasmacaster is hidden.
https://cdn.movieweb.com/img.news.tops/NEaHb6dGnZLfdg_2_b/The-Predator-Trailer-2018.jpg
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:43:31 PMQuote from: newagescamartist on May 10, 2018, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:01:10 PMQuote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 04:29:42 PMQuote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 04:10:24 PMA tribal race of intergallactic hunters resort to high texh splicing to stay ahead of the curve? Nice plot twist, but like the hybrid shit in Jurassic World totally unnecessary. It feels like cheap writing, give them a new trick to play with without actual need for it.
Skull splitter that's only your opinion though , what exactly has been shown in this trailer that's contradictory to the lore ? Nothing. I'm liking the feel of the film there's nothing wrong with that.Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMThis is what I meant earlier.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything...
Also: no forced humor? What about the guys commenting on the interogation? Cringe.
I've seen people shouting about the comics. What comics mention intensive splicing?
Damn you cringe easily :P
A lot of people hated Iron Man 3 despite it being a fairly decent movie in terms of directing, but of course most of the people don't give a shit about directing and just want their beloved iron man to do this and that... It's cinema first and foremost, predator or not... And Shane Black is good at cinema, i think it matters greatly. But hey i'm wasting my time anyway, like i said too many people don't care about filmmaking. They don't realize they have a good director. And some of them don't seem to understand jack shit about editing a trailer either regarding all the complaints about the kid part and the ship crashing :laugh:
Iron Man 3 was pretty terrible, but that's because the script was terrible. If The Predator turns out to be on par with Iron Man 3 it's probably time to retire the franchise. There is nothing in Iron Man 3 that comes even close to being in the same league of film-making as the original 2 Predator movies. It was shallow commercial entertainment with little to no subtext. It was fast food entertainment. Garbage for the masses. Just my opinion of course. I expect more from properties like Predator.
Perhaps because it hurt your personal feelings more than just it being "a terrible movie" ?
Quote from: Xerxész on May 10, 2018, 05:47:09 PMhttps://cdn.movieweb.com/img.news.tops/NEaHb6dGnZLfdg_2_b/The-Predator-Trailer-2018.jpg
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 05:44:45 PM
Well, Hicks, that is the opposite of what they're saying...
That most people liked it and paid money made it make a profit. It did not make it a good film. It was solid, well executed and looked good, but other than that it basically retold Pocahontas.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 05:49:13 PMQuote from: Xerxész on May 10, 2018, 05:47:09 PMhttps://cdn.movieweb.com/img.news.tops/NEaHb6dGnZLfdg_2_b/The-Predator-Trailer-2018.jpg
I do really like the look of the new mask the more I see it.
Quote from: McTierman on May 10, 2018, 05:51:59 PMwhy would we be ashamed ? it's just our opinion we got the right to have one :)
Anyone who criticizes (already), the movie ... you are not ashamed !
IT'S A TEASER TRAILER.
Do not know anything about the film, the atmosphere of the film...NOTHING!
Shane Black is an excellent screenwriter, I trust him to shake the franchise.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:43:31 PMWell, I said the same thing about people complaining that The Last Jedi did everything wrong, ranging from having some female leads to breaking Luke's character.Quote from: newagescamartist on May 10, 2018, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:01:10 PMQuote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 04:29:42 PMQuote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 04:10:24 PMA tribal race of intergallactic hunters resort to high texh splicing to stay ahead of the curve? Nice plot twist, but like the hybrid shit in Jurassic World totally unnecessary. It feels like cheap writing, give them a new trick to play with without actual need for it.
Skull splitter that's only your opinion though , what exactly has been shown in this trailer that's contradictory to the lore ? Nothing. I'm liking the feel of the film there's nothing wrong with that.Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMThis is what I meant earlier.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything...
Also: no forced humor? What about the guys commenting on the interogation? Cringe.
I've seen people shouting about the comics. What comics mention intensive splicing?
Damn you cringe easily :P
A lot of people hated Iron Man 3 despite it being a fairly decent movie in terms of directing, but of course most of the people don't give a shit about directing and just want their beloved iron man to do this and that... It's cinema first and foremost, predator or not... And Shane Black is good at cinema, i think it matters greatly. But hey i'm wasting my time anyway, like i said too many people don't care about filmmaking. They don't realize they have a good director. And some of them don't seem to understand jack shit about editing a trailer either regarding all the complaints about the kid part and the ship crashing :laugh:
Iron Man 3 was pretty terrible, but that's because the script was terrible. If The Predator turns out to be on par with Iron Man 3 it's probably time to retire the franchise. There is nothing in Iron Man 3 that comes even close to being in the same league of film-making as the original 2 Predator movies. It was shallow commercial entertainment with little to no subtext. It was fast food entertainment. Garbage for the masses. Just my opinion of course. I expect more from properties like Predator.
Perhaps because it hurt your personal feelings more than just it being "a terrible movie" ?
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 05:54:31 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:43:31 PMWell, I said the same thing about people complaining that The Last Jedi did everything wrong, ranging from having some female leads to breaking Luke's character.Quote from: newagescamartist on May 10, 2018, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:01:10 PMQuote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 04:29:42 PMQuote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 04:10:24 PMA tribal race of intergallactic hunters resort to high texh splicing to stay ahead of the curve? Nice plot twist, but like the hybrid shit in Jurassic World totally unnecessary. It feels like cheap writing, give them a new trick to play with without actual need for it.
Skull splitter that's only your opinion though , what exactly has been shown in this trailer that's contradictory to the lore ? Nothing. I'm liking the feel of the film there's nothing wrong with that.Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMThis is what I meant earlier.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything...
Also: no forced humor? What about the guys commenting on the interogation? Cringe.
I've seen people shouting about the comics. What comics mention intensive splicing?
Damn you cringe easily :P
A lot of people hated Iron Man 3 despite it being a fairly decent movie in terms of directing, but of course most of the people don't give a shit about directing and just want their beloved iron man to do this and that... It's cinema first and foremost, predator or not... And Shane Black is good at cinema, i think it matters greatly. But hey i'm wasting my time anyway, like i said too many people don't care about filmmaking. They don't realize they have a good director. And some of them don't seem to understand jack shit about editing a trailer either regarding all the complaints about the kid part and the ship crashing :laugh:
Iron Man 3 was pretty terrible, but that's because the script was terrible. If The Predator turns out to be on par with Iron Man 3 it's probably time to retire the franchise. There is nothing in Iron Man 3 that comes even close to being in the same league of film-making as the original 2 Predator movies. It was shallow commercial entertainment with little to no subtext. It was fast food entertainment. Garbage for the masses. Just my opinion of course. I expect more from properties like Predator.
Perhaps because it hurt your personal feelings more than just it being "a terrible movie" ?
I grew up on the same films but I welcomed the changes they made in that film. They were on the same trajectory as the old films and just extrapolated the thirty year time period. The ones not liking it could be broken down to two options: not liking it because it changed too much and not liking it because it didn't fit their expectations.
That being said, I'm complaining my ass off over this film the same way I complain about Jurassic World's changes without need for it. Just kept it at dinosaurs and I'd be fine. All this hybrid nonsense isn't needed to make the creatures creepier.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 05:51:27 PMQuote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 05:44:45 PM
Well, Hicks, that is the opposite of what they're saying...
That most people liked it and paid money made it make a profit. It did not make it a good film. It was solid, well executed and looked good, but other than that it basically retold Pocahontas.
A "solid, well executed" film that "looked good" doesn't equate to good just because it retold an old story? Again, just because you or I don't like something doesn't make it bad. As with everything these days, the vocal minority thinks it represents the majority and that's just not the case.
Iron Man 3 was a success. Critically, financially and evidently with the movie going audience that could be bothered to sign up and vote on aggregator websites - and it's usually the ones who don't like things that are more willing to go to the effort to tell people how much they dislike something.
Quote from: newagescamartist on May 10, 2018, 05:57:21 PM
That's great that people liked it. I have no issue with that. I didn't care for it at all.
QuoteThat script leaking was the worst thing that could have happened. I feel like it soured everything regarding this movie. It's just too hard to overlook. Bad script typically = bad movie. Let's hope they fixed what didn't work. Obviously we can't judge the movie until we see it, but the red flags are basically screaming at us. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 05:54:31 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:43:31 PMWell, I said the same thing about people complaining that The Last Jedi did everything wrong, ranging from having some female leads to breaking Luke's character.Quote from: newagescamartist on May 10, 2018, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:01:10 PMQuote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 04:29:42 PMQuote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 04:10:24 PMA tribal race of intergallactic hunters resort to high texh splicing to stay ahead of the curve? Nice plot twist, but like the hybrid shit in Jurassic World totally unnecessary. It feels like cheap writing, give them a new trick to play with without actual need for it.
Skull splitter that's only your opinion though , what exactly has been shown in this trailer that's contradictory to the lore ? Nothing. I'm liking the feel of the film there's nothing wrong with that.Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMThis is what I meant earlier.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything...
Also: no forced humor? What about the guys commenting on the interogation? Cringe.
I've seen people shouting about the comics. What comics mention intensive splicing?
Damn you cringe easily :P
A lot of people hated Iron Man 3 despite it being a fairly decent movie in terms of directing, but of course most of the people don't give a shit about directing and just want their beloved iron man to do this and that... It's cinema first and foremost, predator or not... And Shane Black is good at cinema, i think it matters greatly. But hey i'm wasting my time anyway, like i said too many people don't care about filmmaking. They don't realize they have a good director. And some of them don't seem to understand jack shit about editing a trailer either regarding all the complaints about the kid part and the ship crashing :laugh:
Iron Man 3 was pretty terrible, but that's because the script was terrible. If The Predator turns out to be on par with Iron Man 3 it's probably time to retire the franchise. There is nothing in Iron Man 3 that comes even close to being in the same league of film-making as the original 2 Predator movies. It was shallow commercial entertainment with little to no subtext. It was fast food entertainment. Garbage for the masses. Just my opinion of course. I expect more from properties like Predator.
Perhaps because it hurt your personal feelings more than just it being "a terrible movie" ?
I grew up on the same films but I welcomed the changes they made in that film. They were on the same trajectory as the old films and just extrapolated the thirty year time period. The ones not liking it could be broken down to two options: not liking it because it changed too much and not liking it because it didn't fit their expectations.
That being said, I'm complaining my ass off over this film the same way I complain about Jurassic World's changes without need for it. Just kept it at dinosaurs and I'd be fine. All this hybrid nonsense isn't needed to make the creatures creepier.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 05:49:13 PM
I do really like the look of the new mask the more I see it.
Quote from: goose_3387 on May 10, 2018, 06:05:50 PM
To those saying that we haven't seen the Upgrade in the trailer, then who are the Preds doing the killing in the trailer? Thought they were working 'with' the humans?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 05:51:27 PMThere are two distinctly different issues here: films being succesful in terms of attracting a large audience and thus being good in this train of logic (pretty sure we can make a huge list of 90's titles that attracted plenty and still could be considered a guilty pleasure, but rarely good film). The other being the train of logic of good films attracting large audience, which has proven to be false.Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 05:44:45 PM
Well, Hicks, that is the opposite of what they're saying...
That most people liked it and paid money made it make a profit. It did not make it a good film. It was solid, well executed and looked good, but other than that it basically retold Pocahontas.
A "solid, well executed" film that "looked good" doesn't equate to good just because it retold an old story? Again, just because you or I (and I really don't enjoy Avatar) don't like something doesn't make it bad. As with everything these days, the vocal minority thinks it represents the majority and that's just not the case.
Iron Man 3 was a success. Critically, financially and evidently with the movie going audience that could be bothered to sign up and vote on aggregator websites - and it's usually the ones who don't like things that are more willing to go to the effort to tell people how much they dislike something.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 06:07:13 PMQuote from: goose_3387 on May 10, 2018, 06:05:50 PM
To those saying that we haven't seen the Upgrade in the trailer, then who are the Preds doing the killing in the trailer? Thought they were working 'with' the humans?Spoiler
There is 100% no upgrade in this trailer. Those Predators are the so called "good" Predator's who aren't truly good.[close]
Quote from: newagescamartist on May 10, 2018, 06:02:37 PMIn effect this seems to do the same, as did Predators.Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 05:54:31 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:43:31 PMWell, I said the same thing about people complaining that The Last Jedi did everything wrong, ranging from having some female leads to breaking Luke's character.Quote from: newagescamartist on May 10, 2018, 05:18:13 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 05:01:10 PMQuote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 04:29:42 PMQuote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 04:10:24 PMA tribal race of intergallactic hunters resort to high texh splicing to stay ahead of the curve? Nice plot twist, but like the hybrid shit in Jurassic World totally unnecessary. It feels like cheap writing, give them a new trick to play with without actual need for it.
Skull splitter that's only your opinion though , what exactly has been shown in this trailer that's contradictory to the lore ? Nothing. I'm liking the feel of the film there's nothing wrong with that.Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 04:15:37 PMThis is what I meant earlier.
I have a feeling some are just desperate for something they just accept anything...
Also: no forced humor? What about the guys commenting on the interogation? Cringe.
I've seen people shouting about the comics. What comics mention intensive splicing?
Damn you cringe easily :P
A lot of people hated Iron Man 3 despite it being a fairly decent movie in terms of directing, but of course most of the people don't give a shit about directing and just want their beloved iron man to do this and that... It's cinema first and foremost, predator or not... And Shane Black is good at cinema, i think it matters greatly. But hey i'm wasting my time anyway, like i said too many people don't care about filmmaking. They don't realize they have a good director. And some of them don't seem to understand jack shit about editing a trailer either regarding all the complaints about the kid part and the ship crashing :laugh:
Iron Man 3 was pretty terrible, but that's because the script was terrible. If The Predator turns out to be on par with Iron Man 3 it's probably time to retire the franchise. There is nothing in Iron Man 3 that comes even close to being in the same league of film-making as the original 2 Predator movies. It was shallow commercial entertainment with little to no subtext. It was fast food entertainment. Garbage for the masses. Just my opinion of course. I expect more from properties like Predator.
Perhaps because it hurt your personal feelings more than just it being "a terrible movie" ?
I grew up on the same films but I welcomed the changes they made in that film. They were on the same trajectory as the old films and just extrapolated the thirty year time period. The ones not liking it could be broken down to two options: not liking it because it changed too much and not liking it because it didn't fit their expectations.
That being said, I'm complaining my ass off over this film the same way I complain about Jurassic World's changes without need for it. Just kept it at dinosaurs and I'd be fine. All this hybrid nonsense isn't needed to make the creatures creepier.
Now with Jurassic World, I agree. That was one of the biggest disappointments of all time for me. We finally get a movie that brings an open park...and they focus on a stupid made up hybrid? So much potential just flushed down the toilet.
Quote from: newagescamartist on May 10, 2018, 05:57:21 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 05:51:27 PMQuote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 05:44:45 PM
Well, Hicks, that is the opposite of what they're saying...
That most people liked it and paid money made it make a profit. It did not make it a good film. It was solid, well executed and looked good, but other than that it basically retold Pocahontas.
A "solid, well executed" film that "looked good" doesn't equate to good just because it retold an old story? Again, just because you or I don't like something doesn't make it bad. As with everything these days, the vocal minority thinks it represents the majority and that's just not the case.
Iron Man 3 was a success. Critically, financially and evidently with the movie going audience that could be bothered to sign up and vote on aggregator websites - and it's usually the ones who don't like things that are more willing to go to the effort to tell people how much they dislike something.
That's great that people liked it. I have no issue with that. I didn't care for it at all. My concern is that if The Predator is more like Iron Man 3 than Predator, I'm gonna be rather disappointed. Whereas I have no emotional attachment to Iron Man as a franchise ( still don't understand how it would hurt my personal feelings ), I have great love for Predator. That script leaking was the worst thing that could have happened. I feel like it soured everything regarding this movie. It's just too hard to overlook. Bad script typically = bad movie. Let's hope they fixed what didn't work. Obviously we can't judge the movie until we see it, but the red flags are basically screaming at us. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 06:29:32 PMProbably. ;D
I can't help but get the feeling they're in there because ADI still had some knocking around. :laugh: I do love seeing them back, though. Really loved them in AvP.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 06:29:32 PMNot too keen on them, and it is weird that everything changed in style except for the damn shiruken :P they fit the AvP style just fine, but would've like something new.
I can't help but get the feeling they're in there because ADI still had some knocking around. :laugh: I do love seeing them back, though. Really loved them in AvP.
Quote from: black on May 10, 2018, 06:35:40 PMSynth music and main character hiding in his coat from the elements. It broke the mold compared to the original and managed to make something that connected ánd got an original story none the less.
Did not cause any emotion of this teaser! Do you think it's bad for a Predator fan?How did the teaser BR2049 play on nostolgia and what is it?
Quote from: Lionhart on May 10, 2018, 06:42:52 PMPretty sure the Empire shot has one.
do we have a classic predator in this movie?
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 06:44:22 PMQuote from: Lionhart on May 10, 2018, 06:42:52 PMPretty sure the Empire shot has one.
do we have a classic predator in this movie?
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 10, 2018, 06:47:30 PM
It's debatable whether you can call that a "classic" version given that it's one of the ADI variants with the bad mandibles.
In terms of Predators we haveSpoiler
The one that get's captured. The "good"(notgood) Predators. And The Upgrade. Right?[close]
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 06:37:25 PMThey really tried to recreate the atmosphere of the original film and in fact we fans should appreciate it. But I don't see it here. I see only shurikens ... which should not be!!!They want to sell the film to fans of predators and avp.Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 06:29:32 PMNot too keen on them, and it is weird that everything changed in style except for the damn shiruken :P they fit the AvP style just fine, but would've like something new.
I can't help but get the feeling they're in there because ADI still had some knocking around. :laugh: I do love seeing them back, though. Really loved them in AvP.Quote from: black on May 10, 2018, 06:35:40 PMSynth music and main character hiding in his coat from the elements. It broke the mold compared to the original and managed to make something that connected ánd got an original story none the less.
Did not cause any emotion of this teaser! Do you think it's bad for a Predator fan?How did the teaser BR2049 play on nostolgia and what is it?
Quote from: Scree on May 10, 2018, 06:27:10 PM
This teaser looks ok. I'm not crazy about the little boy, though. However, I was delighted to see the Predator Shuriken here so I guess the AVP movies are still canon and this movie takes place some time after AVP:R. :)
Quote from: Lionhart on May 10, 2018, 06:42:52 PM
do we have a classic predator in this movie?
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
The first two movies shown predators were aware of medicine and they had there own methods , it's not a stretch of the imagination that they would be aware of DNA . Predators have always been alien scientists, how else would they get there equipment ? like a nuclear bomb on their wrist for example ?
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
The first two movies shown predators were aware of medicine and they had there own methods , it's not a stretch of the imagination that they would be aware of DNA . Predators have always been alien scientists, how else would they get there equipment ? like a nuclear bomb on their wrist for example ?
Quote from: Jacku on May 10, 2018, 07:34:00 PMQuote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 10, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
The first two movies shown predators were aware of medicine and they had there own methods , it's not a stretch of the imagination that they would be aware of DNA . Predators have always been alien scientists, how else would they get there equipment ? like a nuclear bomb on their wrist for example ?
Yeah their methods were cool but grounded to a point. DNA is the makeup of all living things from plants to humans. Why would fusing their DNA with humans on the go make them bigger or tougher or anything like that?
Quote from: goose_3387 on May 10, 2018, 08:32:00 PM
Strange that they haven't released an offical poster yet. They usually release a new poster a day before the trailer hits.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 10, 2018, 08:48:57 PMQuote from: goose_3387 on May 10, 2018, 08:32:00 PM
Strange that they haven't released an offical poster yet. They usually release a new poster a day before the trailer hits.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc2m8c0V4AAR0ft.jpg)
Quote from: Xerxész on May 10, 2018, 05:47:09 PM
The new mask does not fit well... ;D
Also, I think the 'tiny' plasmacaster is kinda confirmed...check those red lights on both sides of the mask. I think that's where the plasmacaster is hidden.
https://cdn.movieweb.com/img.news.tops/NEaHb6dGnZLfdg_2_b/The-Predator-Trailer-2018.jpg
Quote from: Addison81 on May 10, 2018, 09:06:32 PM
I'm already sold on the movie because I'm a big Shane Black fan.
Quote from: black on May 10, 2018, 06:35:40 PM
Did not cause any emotion of this teaser! Do you think it's bad for a Predator fan?How did the teaser BR2049 play on nostolgia and what is it?
Quote from: Scorpio on May 10, 2018, 09:23:07 PMBlade Runner 2049 is visually amazing. You could tell from the early stills and trailers, even.
Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 07:31:08 PMQuote from: Lionhart on May 10, 2018, 06:42:52 PMSo much for unique characters indeed. But that was out of the window with AVP and Predators for (understandable) budgetary reasons.
do we have a classic predator in this movie?
Of course because we can't have a new original design... keep it simple for the people...ughhh
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2018, 09:24:45 PMJust a detective story about a robot pondering about his history and how much of it is real and what reality is to him. Aweful indeed.Quote from: Scorpio on May 10, 2018, 09:23:07 PMBlade Runner 2049 is visually amazing. You could tell from the early stills and trailers, even.
Story-wise I really didn't think much to it at all though. Spent an awfully long time not really going anywhere.
Quote from: Scorpio on May 10, 2018, 09:23:07 PM
Blade Runner 2049 is visually amazing. You could tell from the early stills and trailers, even.
Quote from: Scorpio on May 10, 2018, 09:56:19 PM
Seems like a poverty of imagination to me, much of the visuals remind me of previous Predator movies. There are so many places they could have taken this. Also the Stranger Things vibe, I don't get the love for Stranger Things (and I was a kid in the 80s) and all this nostalgia hype for the 80s that is cool now.
Quote from: Hollywood on May 10, 2018, 10:09:11 PMYeah, well, I hear the same about the new Jurassic World ("we haven't seen the good part yet") but after the recent trailer I vowed not to see it.Quote from: Scorpio on May 10, 2018, 09:56:19 PM
Seems like a poverty of imagination to me, much of the visuals remind me of previous Predator movies. There are so many places they could have taken this. Also the Stranger Things vibe, I don't get the love for Stranger Things (and I was a kid in the 80s) and all this nostalgia hype for the 80s that is cool now.
I honestly feel like we didn't get to see enough to really conclude there isn't creativity in the visuals of the film. We haven't seen any main characters die or even do much in terms of action, right? The trailer was only a minute and 30 seconds.
Quote from: Hollywood on May 10, 2018, 10:09:11 PM
I honestly feel like we didn't get to see enough to really conclude there isn't creativity in the visuals of the film. We haven't seen any main characters die or even do much in terms of action, right? The trailer was only a minute and 30 seconds.
Quote from: Actual Hybrid on May 10, 2018, 10:16:01 PM
Actually, its evident to me at least, that this is a rather Extensive Re-Imagining of the subject. Someone with your forum ID ought to know...
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 10:30:27 PMQuote from: Hollywood on May 10, 2018, 10:09:11 PMYeah, well, I hear the same about the new Jurassic World ("we haven't seen the good part yet") but after the recent trailer I vowed not to see it.Quote from: Scorpio on May 10, 2018, 09:56:19 PM
Seems like a poverty of imagination to me, much of the visuals remind me of previous Predator movies. There are so many places they could have taken this. Also the Stranger Things vibe, I don't get the love for Stranger Things (and I was a kid in the 80s) and all this nostalgia hype for the 80s that is cool now.
I honestly feel like we didn't get to see enough to really conclude there isn't creativity in the visuals of the film. We haven't seen any main characters die or even do much in terms of action, right? The trailer was only a minute and 30 seconds.
Quote from: Scorpio on May 10, 2018, 10:32:13 PM
The trailer is supposed to give you a general idea.. watch the teasers for Predator 1 and 2. The teaser for P1 isn't great, it even has the music from Aliens in it, but it tells you what the film is.
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 10:41:09 PM
I am curious how those boardmeetings went...
"Well, AvP-R tanked, Predators did not go as well as we hoped, what should we do next?"
-"keep it affordable, do it in a small town. People love small town stuff in absurd situations..."
"Like in AvP-R?"
-"What, no?! I mean like ET!"
Quote from: Scorpio on May 10, 2018, 09:56:19 PM
There are so many places they could have taken this.
Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 11:27:13 PM
Bring it back to South America... introduce some big cloaked predator ship (no not like avp and no knightly bullshit but more like in the original script) The characters get taken with them eventually. First half in the jungle and other half in ship and planet. Would love to see some ancient people somehow half alive on their planet... just discarded not being able to speak or something like that. Places on the planet with lower gravity, bring new stuff with some world building but keep it mysterious. I would even say introduce a female-ish... predator (they must come from somewhere) but I wouldn't want to look like a breasted sporting a metal bikini or something. I could imagine her sitting in some sort of big camouflaged web or something.
Quote from: ace3g on May 10, 2018, 11:32:42 PM
Depending on how extensive the reshoots were, that might have impacted the footage they showed in the first trailer.
Quote from: JD on May 10, 2018, 11:44:19 PM
I did notice the Scar and Celtic helmets in the trailer. Looks like AvP is very much canon to this.
Quote from: JD on May 10, 2018, 11:44:19 PM
I did notice the Scar and Celtic helmets in the trailer. Looks like AvP is very much canon to this.
Quote from: JD on May 10, 2018, 11:44:19 PM
I did notice the Scar and Celtic helmets in the trailer. Looks like AvP is very much canon to this.
Quote from: Ultramorph on May 11, 2018, 01:10:44 AMQuote from: JD on May 10, 2018, 11:44:19 PM
I did notice the Scar and Celtic helmets in the trailer. Looks like AvP is very much canon to this.
Nice, I'll have to look for those on another viewing. I do recall one of the stars a while back saying "all five films" would be referenced.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 11:03:13 PMQuote from: Scorpio on May 10, 2018, 09:56:19 PM
There are so many places they could have taken this.
Where for example ?
Quote from: The Shuriken on May 11, 2018, 01:29:40 AM
For some idiotic reason, I thought it was the Jungle Hunter's helmet.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 11, 2018, 01:43:17 AMQuote from: The Shuriken on May 11, 2018, 01:29:40 AM
For some idiotic reason, I thought it was the Jungle Hunter's helmet.
You know what would be really great is if they had City Hunter's helmet in there somewhere. He did leave it lying in that meat factory after all.
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As to where they could have gone with this, honestly, the genetic modification stuff aside, they're more or less going exactly where I thought they should have, instead of the "Predators" route.
Predator is our first battle with them. The sequel shows that people are on the look out for Predators. So part 3 should arguably be humans turning the tables on The Predators and turning them into the prey.
Like always the devil is in the details, though. If we get some good likeable characters than the weaknesses in the story can be overlooked.
Quote from: blood. on May 11, 2018, 03:28:00 AM
The mask kinda looks like it's forehead is inflated compared to previous masks. Weird. It doesn't even look like the predator face design has changed, just a weird mask.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on May 11, 2018, 02:58:55 AM
One thing that got my curiosity is the hybridization plot they got going on. Splicing with human DNA? Is it going to be like Hunter Borgia from Predator Concrete Jungle? Why would Preds even splice with us as they are vastly superior to us in every way? Or is it us trying to be spliced with them?
Can't wait to see more.
Quote from: Ultramorph on May 10, 2018, 10:47:20 PM
Thought after watching on my phone:
It doesn't look bad, but the kid stuff does ring a bit too Iron Man 3. They could have done more to make it feel like a Predator trailer, rather than just having the clicking a few times.
That being said, the production value looks solid, and I'm hopeful this new direction is fun. Hopefully we get a full trailer in a month or so to give us more to judge.
Quote from: Tangakkai on May 11, 2018, 05:50:04 AM
First thoughts shooting through my brain after seeing this:
-Woah, wasn't expecting the AvP:Requiem vibe :-\ That ain't a good one for me.
-But nice to see that the shuriken and the oneblade-wristgear have been included :)
-Those Predators... look tiny. :(
-The one with the strange mask, is that one female? Looks fairly feminine when shooting the wristblade.
-The cast is bringing solid a-game from (the few things) I see. Looking forwars to seeing thecinteracr. May be the first time since predator 2 where I care about the human protagonists.
-still... why... suburbs... looks... so... cheap ???
Quote from: goose_3387 on May 11, 2018, 06:10:12 AM
They did a good job with Wolf. Imagine putting just Wolf in The Predator with a top director and what looks like a very well put together cast...
Quote from: Cooler on May 11, 2018, 07:25:21 AM
Some of you lot are just too attached to expectations of what Predator "should" be, not what it "can" be.
Quote from: Cooler on May 11, 2018, 07:25:21 AMMan, the trailer is...ok. I'm not going to sh*t on it, the predator design looks good, the other parts, we''ll just have to wait and see. I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon and say this is going to be worse than AvPR or anything like that. Because we just don't know enough. Some of you lot are just too attached to expectations of what Predator "should" be, not what it "can" be. Sometimes a good movie needs to go beyond retreading the same terrain and go for something new for a change.
Quote from: ace3g on May 11, 2018, 02:54:17 AM
Just a teaser but interesting we didn't see Edward James Olmos, also who was the actor playing the character interrogating Quinn - didn't see him on the IMDB page.
Quote from: Cooler on May 11, 2018, 07:25:21 AM
Man, the trailer is...ok. I'm not going to sh*t on it, the predator design looks good, the other parts, we''ll just have to wait and see. I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon and say this is going to be worse than AvPR or anything like that. Because we just don't know enough. Some of you lot are just too attached to expectations of what Predator "should" be, not what it "can" be. Sometimes a good movie needs to go beyond retreading the same terrain and go for something new for a change.
Quote from: von on May 11, 2018, 07:53:03 AMShitting on this movie after this little peek is insane, really.Quote from: Cooler on May 11, 2018, 07:25:21 AM
Man, the trailer is...ok. I'm not going to sh*t on it, the predator design looks good, the other parts, we''ll just have to wait and see. I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon and say this is going to be worse than AvPR or anything like that. Because we just don't know enough. Some of you lot are just too attached to expectations of what Predator "should" be, not what it "can" be. Sometimes a good movie needs to go beyond retreading the same terrain and go for something new for a change.
couldn't agree more, thanks. was beginning to think i was insane for not sh*tting on the movie yet.
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 11, 2018, 08:37:31 AMFrom what i understand, the trailer puts a lot of story elements in false light. I remember reading that the movie doesn't open with the ship crashing in the suburbs à la AvP and that this is actually much later in the story.
That's right, they didn't really give anything away while confirming and in a sense putting to rest some of the speculation. Namely the kid and hybridization.
Still I have to be honest, the pred from the trailer looks like a millennial to me.
You know what, there is one thing that is pissing me off about the trailer. Did the Predator ship have to crash land again? I mean of all the things, really. The last thing that is needed is the same opening to AVPr.
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 11, 2018, 09:11:22 AM
Oh ok, I was assuming that it takes place later in the story, possibly in a flashback. However, none the less, predator's apparently crash as often as the engineers in Alien do.
The Predator in the teaser does look small though and maybe it's just me but it seems to need some sort of power assist to lift that man off of the ground. At least the sound effect and slight delay makes me think that.
Quote from: SiL on May 11, 2018, 09:24:57 AMIf he turns it on and it... you know what. nvm :PSpoiler
The kid doesn't pilot the thing, either. When he turns it on it activates an autopilot. It crashes on its own. Making it look like he's steering is a trailer embellishment.[close]
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 11, 2018, 10:10:20 AM
"all five films" would be reference
This seems to bridge them all together.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2018, 10:39:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsYyYFh78QA
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2018, 11:16:57 AMBut where is the fun in not bitching about it?
See a 2D showing. Problem solved!
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on May 11, 2018, 11:32:06 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2018, 10:39:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsYyYFh78QA
As a Teaser Trailer this one worked better.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2018, 11:40:35 AM
Come-on now, you know not everyone feels like that. Vocal minority and all that. Unfortunately, it does seem to be the general impression you get of fandoms. The negative people are just the loudest. It's why I'm apart of so few fandoms.Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on May 11, 2018, 11:32:06 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2018, 10:39:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsYyYFh78QA
As a Teaser Trailer this one worked better.
Yeah, I do think it works a lot better without the bit with the kid.
Quote from: Lord Freezer on May 11, 2018, 11:49:48 AM
The collaboration between humans and predators seems to be confirmed...
(https://s31.postimg.cc/e1p84ymkr/carrar.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/4ifjbltyj/maxresdefault.jpg)
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 11, 2018, 12:20:01 PM
Holy shit removing the kid made the teaser 20x Kaioken better. Oh man why are they using a kid in a Predator movie? Or is that just a misdirection and the kid get annihilated early on.
Quote from: Xerxész on May 11, 2018, 12:20:50 PM
This also matches with the leaked script, anyway.
Quote from: Xerxész on May 10, 2018, 02:41:56 PM
At least the Upgrade has a mask...it seems.
In the script he has no mask.
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on May 11, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
the Upgrade wasn't in the trailer
it's the captured throwing the guy
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on May 11, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
the 2 working with the government are the ones with the mask on
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2018, 10:39:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsYyYFh78QA
Quote from: Highland on May 11, 2018, 12:00:41 AMThat cheesy line? Kind of hamfisted.
Ironically the best bit of the trailer is the joke in the middle. Maybe the comedy will make this better.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2018, 11:16:57 AMOver here, sometimes that simply isn't an option.
See a 2D showing. Problem solved!
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 11, 2018, 12:20:01 PMHoly shit removing the kid made the teaser 20x Kaioken better. Oh man why are they using a kid in a Predator movie?
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 11, 2018, 01:50:17 PMMonster Squad is probably my favorite film he's ever made honestly.Quote from: whiterabbit on May 11, 2018, 12:20:01 PMHoly shit removing the kid made the teaser 20x Kaioken better. Oh man why are they using a kid in a Predator movie?
Shane Black often puts kids in his films and they don't tend to be annoying at all.
Hell, the entire cast of The Monster Squad are kids, and they're all awesome.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 11, 2018, 01:50:17 PMQuote from: whiterabbit on May 11, 2018, 12:20:01 PMHoly shit removing the kid made the teaser 20x Kaioken better. Oh man why are they using a kid in a Predator movie?
Shane Black often puts kids in his films and they don't tend to be annoying at all.
Hell, the entire cast of The Monster Squad are kids, and they're all awesome.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 03:05:37 PM
I agree but y'know, some people here will keep saying they hate it because... Well... They are kids, duh ! They have no place in a predator movie gna gna gna :laugh:
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on May 11, 2018, 03:40:54 PM
This to me looks like the Predators that were working with the government turned on McKenna and the Loonies, looks like Nebraska aiming in this pic I paused from the teaser(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180511/1c5ab68d6fe64909aca4077b61cfac9b.jpg)
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Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 03:45:59 PMI'm not sure it's just the thought considering that what we've heard about the upgrade having no armor and obviously as tight-lipped as they have kept this movie I would assume that they're not going to have any pictures whatsoever or live film of the upgrade until the movie possibly, just my opinion because all of the Predators shot where you can see their helmets or even the Predator without armor on throwing the guy in that Empire picture I would think that they are going to keep the upgrade as a surprise as long as they canQuote from: The Wolverine Predator on May 11, 2018, 03:40:54 PM
This to me looks like the Predators that were working with the government turned on McKenna and the Loonies, looks like Nebraska aiming in this pic I paused from the teaser(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180511/1c5ab68d6fe64909aca4077b61cfac9b.jpg)
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Could be, but why would they be there so early in the movie ? This shot clearly happens in front of the school in suburbia
Quote from: preddyuk on May 11, 2018, 03:37:45 PM
When there's an explosion in front of the boyd holbrook character it's the predator jumping up from under the swamp..
Watch it over and you'll see what i mean.
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on May 11, 2018, 03:48:09 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 03:45:59 PMI'm not sure it's just the thought considering that what we've heard about the upgrade having no armor and obviously as tight-lipped as they have kept this movie I would assume that they're not going to have any pictures whatsoever or live film of the upgrade until the movie possibly, just my opinion because all of the Predators shot where you can see their helmets or even the Predator without armor on throwing the guy in that Empire picture I would think that they are going to keep the upgrade as a surprise as long as they canQuote from: The Wolverine Predator on May 11, 2018, 03:40:54 PM
This to me looks like the Predators that were working with the government turned on McKenna and the Loonies, looks like Nebraska aiming in this pic I paused from the teaser(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180511/1c5ab68d6fe64909aca4077b61cfac9b.jpg)
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Could be, but why would they be there so early in the movie ? This shot clearly happens in front of the school in suburbia
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Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 03:50:03 PMQuote from: preddyuk on May 11, 2018, 03:37:45 PM
When there's an explosion in front of the boyd holbrook character it's the predator jumping up from under the swamp..
Watch it over and you'll see what i mean.
God damn it you are right !!! But it's hard to tell what it is... A pred or a soldier, i don't know...
Quote from: Hollywood on May 11, 2018, 03:53:27 AMQuote from: Mr.Turok on May 11, 2018, 02:58:55 AM
One thing that got my curiosity is the hybridization plot they got going on. Splicing with human DNA? Is it going to be like Hunter Borgia from Predator Concrete Jungle? Why would Preds even splice with us as they are vastly superior to us in every way? Or is it us trying to be spliced with them?
Can't wait to see more.
Maybe they want to adapt to cooler temps or breathe our atmosphere better?
Quote from: Hollywood on May 11, 2018, 04:06:34 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 03:50:03 PMQuote from: preddyuk on May 11, 2018, 03:37:45 PM
When there's an explosion in front of the boyd holbrook character it's the predator jumping up from under the swamp..
Watch it over and you'll see what i mean.
God damn it you are right !!! But it's hard to tell what it is... A pred or a soldier, i don't know...
All I see is this soldier guy :-\
Quote from: Cooler on May 11, 2018, 04:29:12 PMEXACTLY!!!!!
How many of the haters here (who so despised this trailer) have actually seen a Shane Black movie?
Quote from: germanator2 on May 11, 2018, 04:04:17 PM
I mean, my initial thoughts are that there is definitely an AVP vibe to it. Looks like it'll definitely be bloody as with the shot of the soldier getting his neck sliced open. I think my biggest gripe is that it looks too "clean" though. And because of that, the costumes feel a little cosplay-ey, especially that last shot. The original Predator was dirty and grimy and felt real.
Quote from: Petr Švancara on May 11, 2018, 05:51:58 PM
Rather tell what is on 1:10, he has sometging nasty on his right shoulder, it has green light. Look at that closely.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 11, 2018, 03:05:37 PM
I agree but y'know, some people here will keep saying they hate it because... Well... They are kids, duh ! They have no place in a predator movie gna gna gna :laugh:
Quote from: Xerxész on May 11, 2018, 05:47:35 PMDamn good eye man
It seems that the Captured has a regular plasmacaster...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kepfeltoltes.eu%2Fimages%2Fhdd1%2F2018%2F05%2F11%2F114thepredator0002.jpg&hash=c2222ad937f86c34ad306257629dd1946830bb4c) (http://www.kepfeltoltes.eu/view.php?filename=114thepredator0002.jpg)
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on May 11, 2018, 06:47:49 PMQuote from: Xerxész on May 11, 2018, 05:47:35 PMDamn good eye man
It seems that the Captured has a regular plasmacaster...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kepfeltoltes.eu%2Fimages%2Fhdd1%2F2018%2F05%2F11%2F114thepredator0002.jpg&hash=c2222ad937f86c34ad306257629dd1946830bb4c) (http://www.kepfeltoltes.eu/view.php?filename=114thepredator0002.jpg)
Quote from: Cooler on May 11, 2018, 04:29:12 PM
How many of the haters here (who so despised this trailer) have actually seen a Shane Black movie?
Quote from: Ramjet311 on May 11, 2018, 08:40:20 PM
Haters gonna hate..
Love how people make there mind up from 1:46 of footage, of which some will not even be in the movie..
I respect everyone's opinion, but maybe show a little bit more of an open mind, and wait till the finished product before you judge.
And those who claim they won;t even go see it, i will happily pay for your ticket just so you can be proved wrong :) :)
Quote from: dallevalle on May 11, 2018, 08:49:24 PMQuote from: Ramjet311 on May 11, 2018, 08:40:20 PM
Haters gonna hate..
Love how people make there mind up from 1:46 of footage, of which some will not even be in the movie..
I respect everyone's opinion, but maybe show a little bit more of an open mind, and wait till the finished product before you judge.
And those who claim they won;t even go see it, i will happily pay for your ticket just so you can be proved wrong :) :)
deal you got paypal ? just send me the money :)
Quote from: Ramjet311 on May 11, 2018, 08:51:13 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 11, 2018, 08:49:24 PMQuote from: Ramjet311 on May 11, 2018, 08:40:20 PM
Haters gonna hate..
Love how people make there mind up from 1:46 of footage, of which some will not even be in the movie..
I respect everyone's opinion, but maybe show a little bit more of an open mind, and wait till the finished product before you judge.
And those who claim they won;t even go see it, i will happily pay for your ticket just so you can be proved wrong :) :)
deal you got paypal ? just send me the money :)
Haha yeah man! Not paying for your Popcorn though ;D
Quote from: Ramjet311 on May 11, 2018, 08:40:20 PMAfter four years people tend to be on edge. While skeptical from the first viewing, viewing the trailer a couple of times and knowing some of the script, it's almost like they crammed random shots together.
Haters gonna hate..
Love how people make there mind up from 1:46 of footage, of which some will not even be in the movie..
I respect everyone's opinion, but maybe show a little bit more of an open mind, and wait till the finished product before you judge.
And those who claim they won;t even go see it, i will happily pay for your ticket just so you can be proved wrong :) :)
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 11, 2018, 08:59:53 PMQuote from: Ramjet311 on May 11, 2018, 08:40:20 PMAfter four years people tend to be on edge. While skeptical from the first viewing, viewing the trailer a couple of times and knowing some of the script, it's almost like they crammed random shots together.
Haters gonna hate..
Love how people make there mind up from 1:46 of footage, of which some will not even be in the movie..
I respect everyone's opinion, but maybe show a little bit more of an open mind, and wait till the finished product before you judge.
And those who claim they won;t even go see it, i will happily pay for your ticket just so you can be proved wrong :) :)
Willing to give it a shot.
Quote from: ROYCE_THE_PREDATOR on May 11, 2018, 01:40:13 PM
he looks like he could be Dutches son.
Quote from: Ramjet311 on May 11, 2018, 09:11:16 PMProbably helps understanding the trailer, I have it but won't read it till after the release.Quote from: skull-splitter on May 11, 2018, 08:59:53 PMQuote from: Ramjet311 on May 11, 2018, 08:40:20 PMAfter four years people tend to be on edge. While skeptical from the first viewing, viewing the trailer a couple of times and knowing some of the script, it's almost like they crammed random shots together.
Haters gonna hate..
Love how people make there mind up from 1:46 of footage, of which some will not even be in the movie..
I respect everyone's opinion, but maybe show a little bit more of an open mind, and wait till the finished product before you judge.
And those who claim they won;t even go see it, i will happily pay for your ticket just so you can be proved wrong :) :)
Willing to give it a shot.
Yeah i understand that, and respect the opinion of those who aren't happy. I just don't get how judgement can be made so quick thats all.
And yes i have read the script at least 20 times ( sad i know )
Quote from: Lord Freezer on May 11, 2018, 11:49:48 AM
The collaboration between humans and predators seems to be confirmed...
(https://s31.postimg.cc/e1p84ymkr/carrar.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/4ifjbltyj/maxresdefault.jpg)
Quote from: Lord Freezer on May 11, 2018, 11:49:48 AM
The collaboration between humans and predators seems to be confirmed...
(https://s31.postimg.cc/e1p84ymkr/carrar.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/4ifjbltyj/maxresdefault.jpg)
Quote from: yautjapet on May 12, 2018, 02:39:13 AMI believe that's what they're doing.
I'm totally down for a predator/human team-up. No, it shouldn't be all kumbaya and palling around, or preds submitting to army leadership or some such nonsense, but there's precedent for them to collaborate with a human if the situation requires it. A tense, wary cooperation done only for mutual benefit could be really cool if they pull it off well.
Quote from: yautjapet on May 12, 2018, 02:39:13 AM
I'm totally down for a predator/human team-up. No, it shouldn't be all kumbaya and palling around, or preds submitting to army leadership or some such nonsense, but there's precedent for them to collaborate with a human if the situation requires it. A tense, wary cooperation done only for mutual benefit could be really cool if they pull it off well.
Quote from: yautjapet on May 12, 2018, 02:39:13 AM
I'm totally down for a predator/human team-up. No, it shouldn't be all kumbaya and palling around, or preds submitting to army leadership or some such nonsense, but there's precedent for them to collaborate with a human if the situation requires it. A tense, wary cooperation done only for mutual benefit could be really cool if they pull it off well.
Quote from: Lord Freezer on May 11, 2018, 11:49:48 AM
The collaboration between humans and predators seems to be confirmed...
(https://s31.postimg.cc/e1p84ymkr/carrar.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/4ifjbltyj/maxresdefault.jpg)
Quote from: Aquarius8 on May 12, 2018, 02:34:37 AMBecause it only appeals to a small group of people. John Carter of Mars anyone?
I know it's just a teaser but that was all over the place in style and tone. Why can't we get an all out Predator War in their Planet with some Elite Soldiers? Is it really that hard to do? Let me guess, the Little Boy is gonna save the day?
Quote from: Cooler on May 12, 2018, 05:16:23 AM
VanXant-You do realize you can't judge a movie based on its trailer? Just like you can't judge a book by its cover.
Quote from: Lord Freezer on May 11, 2018, 11:49:48 AM
The collaboration between humans and predators seems to be confirmed...
(https://s31.postimg.cc/e1p84ymkr/carrar.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/4ifjbltyj/maxresdefault.jpg)
Quote from: Scree on May 12, 2018, 10:42:41 AMQuote from: Lord Freezer on May 11, 2018, 11:49:48 AM
The collaboration between humans and predators seems to be confirmed...
(https://s31.postimg.cc/e1p84ymkr/carrar.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.cc/4ifjbltyj/maxresdefault.jpg)Spoiler
...and then he's dead. The poor bugger. He just wanted to help.
(https://image.ibb.co/gsTQdy/the_predator_teaser_trailer_68_spotlight.jpg%20%5B/spoiler%5D)[close]
Quote from: blood. on May 12, 2018, 08:32:48 AM
What are they teaming up against? Are there rivalling predators again?
Quote from: Petr Švancara on May 11, 2018, 03:16:55 PM
If Im thinking right, they found the "old" Helmet and Plasma cannon from first Predator film. In P2 we see that some military personels are searching in the jungle location decimated by the nuclear explosion, they could find that. Classic Predator just throw this equipment to the water, so they could find that stuff. 8) Im judging because that helmet has the same mark damaged from shot in the middle, same like in P1. Also in 1:28 we can see some killed creatures behind Trevante Rhodes.
Quote from: funk_master_chunk on May 12, 2018, 12:49:31 PMQuote from: Petr Švancara on May 11, 2018, 03:16:55 PM
If Im thinking right, they found the "old" Helmet and Plasma cannon from first Predator film. In P2 we see that some military personels are searching in the jungle location decimated by the nuclear explosion, they could find that. Classic Predator just throw this equipment to the water, so they could find that stuff. 8) Im judging because that helmet has the same mark damaged from shot in the middle, same like in P1. Also in 1:28 we can see some killed creatures behind Trevante Rhodes.
Hi Petr,
I'm struggling to remember where we see the military personnel in Pred 2.
Wjere does that happen?
Quote from: Valaquen on May 12, 2018, 01:05:36 PMQuote from: funk_master_chunk on May 12, 2018, 12:49:31 PMQuote from: Petr Švancara on May 11, 2018, 03:16:55 PM
If Im thinking right, they found the "old" Helmet and Plasma cannon from first Predator film. In P2 we see that some military personels are searching in the jungle location decimated by the nuclear explosion, they could find that. Classic Predator just throw this equipment to the water, so they could find that stuff. 8) Im judging because that helmet has the same mark damaged from shot in the middle, same like in P1. Also in 1:28 we can see some killed creatures behind Trevante Rhodes.
Hi Petr,
I'm struggling to remember where we see the military personnel in Pred 2.
Wjere does that happen?
When Gary Busey's character is showing Danny Glover the operation to capture the Predator. We are shown monitors with clean-up crews searching the original Predator's blast site. You can also spot Elpidia Carrillo. The novelisation and script features more of this stuff: the film trimmed a lot of it.
Quote from: PredatordiedwithKevin on May 12, 2018, 05:44:29 PM
For those that have read the script why is that Predator manhandling Boyd Holbrook? Thought they were teamed up?
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on May 12, 2018, 07:18:20 PMPeople who watch those two are less likely to watch superhero films. The Predator and Iron Man 3 have similar target audiences. It's that simple.
Why didn't put from the Director of "The Nice Guys and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" in the trailer as well? I guess they think that people only watch superhero movies these days.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on May 12, 2018, 07:18:20 PM
Why didn't put from the Director of "The Nice Guys and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" in the trailer as well? I guess they think that people only watch superhero movies these days.
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 12, 2018, 07:28:22 PMQuote from: Hellspawn28 on May 12, 2018, 07:18:20 PMPeople who watch those two are less likely to watch superhero films. The Predator and Iron Man 3 have similar target audiences. It's that simple.
Why didn't put from the Director of "The Nice Guys and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" in the trailer as well? I guess they think that people only watch superhero movies these days.
That being said, Iron Man 3 split the fandom right down the middle, mainly because what they did to the Mandarin.
Quote from: Highland on May 12, 2018, 11:02:58 PMMaybe because I'm at the movies a lot, but trailers are usually attached to certain genres. Romcom with romcom, action with action, action with comic book films, art house with art house. It's called being sensible.Quote from: skull-splitter on May 12, 2018, 07:28:22 PMQuote from: Hellspawn28 on May 12, 2018, 07:18:20 PMPeople who watch those two are less likely to watch superhero films. The Predator and Iron Man 3 have similar target audiences. It's that simple.
Why didn't put from the Director of "The Nice Guys and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" in the trailer as well? I guess they think that people only watch superhero movies these days.
That being said, Iron Man 3 split the fandom right down the middle, mainly because what they did to the Mandarin.
I doubt its anything to do with target audiences. It reads more like a sales pitch because of the past movies.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on May 12, 2018, 08:40:49 PM
Completely disappointed with the trailer(reminds me of AVPR)
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 12, 2018, 11:43:15 PMQuote from: Highland on May 12, 2018, 11:02:58 PMMaybe because I'm at the movies a lot, but trailers are usually attached to certain genres. Romcom with romcom, action with action, action with comic book films, art house with art house. It's called being sensible.Quote from: skull-splitter on May 12, 2018, 07:28:22 PMQuote from: Hellspawn28 on May 12, 2018, 07:18:20 PMPeople who watch those two are less likely to watch superhero films. The Predator and Iron Man 3 have similar target audiences. It's that simple.
Why didn't put from the Director of "The Nice Guys and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" in the trailer as well? I guess they think that people only watch superhero movies these days.
That being said, Iron Man 3 split the fandom right down the middle, mainly because what they did to the Mandarin.
I doubt its anything to do with target audiences. It reads more like a sales pitch because of the past movies.
Quote from: cheachea on May 13, 2018, 03:54:29 AM
If there is a Female Predator with boobs beating the crap out of regular Predators in some Forced SJW Feminism BS I'm going to just Walk Out and ask for my money back.
Quote from: bleau on May 13, 2018, 01:13:50 AM
The kid part was the big turn off. Him play landing the ship was dumb and he hit the blocks and the ship happens to hit a mountain,? yeah idk about that. Seemed silly. Second half, looks decent. Its about what I actually expected. Action looks ok, Characters seemed likable and decent. Loving the new mask and look. I agree with another poster about this Pred maybe a Female? Hard to say, but the mask looks more feminine to me. the nose part by the eyes is more pointy instead of flat and big. It seems to have a lot of detail, like its hard to remember off a quick look especially around the eyes. Could be wrong about it being a female, but has a unique look imo.
Quote from: cheachea on May 13, 2018, 03:54:29 AM
If there is a Female Predator with boobs beating the crap out of regular Predators in some Forced SJW Feminism BS I'm going to just Walk Out and ask for my money back.
Quote from: happypred on May 13, 2018, 05:43:36 AMPretty sure he means it will be bigger than this mess of a trailer leads you to believe. And an amalgation of previous entries to bind them together.
"This is gonna be an EVENT film"
- Shane Black
By "event", Shane means a franchise requiem
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 13, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
Ah, fan fiction heaven. Dutch and Harrigan going to Predator planet to kick their asses and stuff like that.
A no-go indeed.
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 13, 2018, 03:14:09 PM
OpenMaw-"Fool Hardy"? But who are you to decide what is fool hardy or not? I'm sorry to say this, but I have read "ideas" for what the next predator film should include by some self-proclaimed "fans" and those who are must ridiculous, retarded and absurd plots I have ever heard. They probably are way worse than what Shane Black is offering.
Quote from: Cooler on May 12, 2018, 05:16:23 AM
VanXant-You do realize you can't judge a movie based on its trailer? Just like you can't judge a book by its cover.
Quote from: Scorpio on May 13, 2018, 05:12:40 AMQuote from: cheachea on May 13, 2018, 03:54:29 AM
If there is a Female Predator with boobs beating the crap out of regular Predators in some Forced SJW Feminism BS I'm going to just Walk Out and ask for my money back.
That would be pretty funny actually.
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 13, 2018, 03:14:09 PM
OpenMaw-"Fool Hardy"? But who are you to decide what is fool hardy or not? I'm sorry to say this, but I have read "ideas" for what the next predator film should include by some self-proclaimed "fans" and those who are must ridiculous, retarded and absurd plots I have ever heard. They probably are way worse than what Shane Black is offering.
QuoteWell, like others have said the kid doesn't actually crash the ship I don't think.
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 13, 2018, 03:14:09 PMHis opinion really upset you didn't it. Triggered much. :D
OpenMaw-"Fool Hardy"? But who are you to decide what is fool hardy or not? I'm sorry to say this, but I have read "ideas" for what the next predator film should include by some self-proclaimed "fans" and those who are must ridiculous, retarded and absurd plots I have ever heard. They probably are way worse than what Shane Black is offering.
Quote from: bleau on May 13, 2018, 07:35:36 PM
I sure hope not. Like how did he get all the predator stuff .?
Quote from: Scorpio on May 13, 2018, 07:05:17 PMEh, nope. I ignore this outside of AvP anyway.Quote from: Tonkaman on May 13, 2018, 03:14:09 PM
OpenMaw-"Fool Hardy"? But who are you to decide what is fool hardy or not? I'm sorry to say this, but I have read "ideas" for what the next predator film should include by some self-proclaimed "fans" and those who are must ridiculous, retarded and absurd plots I have ever heard. They probably are way worse than what Shane Black is offering.
I don't know about you, but this is the movie I want to see:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/orig_avpbluray663.jpg)
This expanded to feature length. When the predators first arrived on Earth. Like a Prometheus style prequel, exploring the origins of the predators.
Quote from: Hollywood on May 13, 2018, 07:56:30 PMQuote from: bleau on May 13, 2018, 07:35:36 PM
I sure hope not. Like how did he get all the predator stuff .?
I'm pretty sureSpoiler
his dad, Boyd Holbrook, encounters a predator while in combat, takes its technology and mails it home.[close]
Quote from: bleau on May 13, 2018, 08:05:34 PMQuote from: Hollywood on May 13, 2018, 07:56:30 PMQuote from: bleau on May 13, 2018, 07:35:36 PM
I sure hope not. Like how did he get all the predator stuff .?
I'm pretty sureSpoiler
his dad, Boyd Holbrook, encounters a predator while in combat, takes its technology and mails it home.[close]
Oh wow, thank you. I was literally trying to think of a scenario and I actually thought of that being a possibility. knowing that, it all makes sense now. :)
Quote from: Scorpio on May 13, 2018, 07:05:17 PMQuote from: Tonkaman on May 13, 2018, 03:14:09 PM
OpenMaw-"Fool Hardy"? But who are you to decide what is fool hardy or not? I'm sorry to say this, but I have read "ideas" for what the next predator film should include by some self-proclaimed "fans" and those who are must ridiculous, retarded and absurd plots I have ever heard. They probably are way worse than what Shane Black is offering.
I don't know about you, but this is the movie I want to see:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/orig_avpbluray663.jpg)
This expanded to feature length. When the predators first arrived on Earth. Like a Prometheus style prequel, exploring the origins of the predators.
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 13, 2018, 08:01:23 PM
Eh, nope. I ignore this outside of AvP anyway.
And this alone proves that a filmmaker shouldn't try to fill all the cracks with his own version of the lore.
Quote from: Scorpio on May 13, 2018, 09:20:15 PMQuote from: skull-splitter on May 13, 2018, 08:01:23 PM
Eh, nope. I ignore this outside of AvP anyway.
And this alone proves that a filmmaker shouldn't try to fill all the cracks with his own version of the lore.
That one scene has more imagination than anything that came after it.
Quote from: Scorpio on May 13, 2018, 07:05:17 PMQuote from: Tonkaman on May 13, 2018, 03:14:09 PM
OpenMaw-"Fool Hardy"? But who are you to decide what is fool hardy or not? I'm sorry to say this, but I have read "ideas" for what the next predator film should include by some self-proclaimed "fans" and those who are must ridiculous, retarded and absurd plots I have ever heard. They probably are way worse than what Shane Black is offering.
I don't know about you, but this is the movie I want to see:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/orig_avpbluray663.jpg)
This expanded to feature length. When the predators first arrived on Earth. Like a Prometheus style prequel, exploring the origins of the predators.
Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on May 13, 2018, 10:02:57 PM
Unlike true fans, I must admit that my knowledge about this particular universe is limited. Anyway, I'm a little disappointed that the filmmakers have ignored the design of the ship portrayed in Predator 2. That single piece, with its ancient aesthetics, hieroglyphics and trophy room, seemed to promise a whole Predator mythology waiting to be explored in future installments.
(https://i.imgur.com/SR8q89R.jpg)
Quote from: Highland on May 14, 2018, 04:38:10 AM
The real question is what they gona call the sequel to this if it gets made.
Predati .. Predatorz ..... Predatory ....
Quote from: Tonkaman on May 14, 2018, 03:59:27 AM
OpenMaw-I can tell you are one of those obsessed but sadly deluded fans. No idea of what a good movie involves. I am glad you will likely be wrong. Good thing Shane Black does not listen to someone like you.
Quote from: Huggs on May 14, 2018, 05:24:05 AM
Alien Resurrection/ The Predator = Odd director choice, comedic style, many creatures again, introduction of hybrid creatures.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 14, 2018, 05:49:37 AMQuote from: Tonkaman on May 14, 2018, 03:59:27 AM
OpenMaw-I can tell you are one of those obsessed but sadly deluded fans. No idea of what a good movie involves. I am glad you will likely be wrong. Good thing Shane Black does not listen to someone like you.
You're funny. You're funny, and you're wrong. :DQuote from: Huggs on May 14, 2018, 05:24:05 AM
Alien Resurrection/ The Predator = Odd director choice, comedic style, many creatures again, introduction of hybrid creatures.
Sad to say it but... I think you're absolutely right. More than you know.
Though, I will say this, I can tell this film will at least be more entertaining than Resurrection. It's still going to be goofy.
Quote from: Kailem on May 14, 2018, 03:57:00 AMSounds an aweful lot like fan theory to me.
I always heard that they wanted to go back in time and follow through on the implication of the flintlock pistol by having a movie set in the past where there were no modern-day weapons around to fight the Predators, but I don't know if that's actually legit or just a fan theory based on P2's ending and the opening of the original Robert Rodriguez Predator 3/Predators script.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on May 12, 2018, 07:18:20 PM
Why didn't put from the Director of "The Nice Guys and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" in the trailer as well? I guess they think that people only watch superhero movies these days.
Quote from: ace3g on May 12, 2018, 09:19:40 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BinOUp8FdBy/?tagged=thepredator
QuoteIn regards to the masks - Maybe the movie will explain why this clan of Predators use that style.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 13, 2018, 08:39:20 AM
I can see why it's being called an event film. They're trying to steer the Predator franchise towards a larger scale block buster.
Which I think is fool hardy. Not every series is can, or should, be that.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 14, 2018, 02:23:33 AM
Were the Thomas brothers ever attached for a Predator 3? I'd be interested in reading their take on it.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 14, 2018, 09:03:53 AMI don't see why they would. It's not like differing mask designs has ever been an issue with the other films. Nor is it here, really.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2018, 10:18:31 AM
I don't know if it has been pointed out, but does Sterling K. Brown got a shoulder cannon in the trailer?
Quote from: Xerxész on May 14, 2018, 11:13:23 AMInteresting, getting a concrete jungle vibe.Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 14, 2018, 10:18:31 AM
I don't know if it has been pointed out, but does Sterling K. Brown got a shoulder cannon in the trailer?
Kinda...plasmacaster.
Here:
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=59940.msg2288831#msg2288831
Quote from: ace3g on May 12, 2018, 09:19:40 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BinOUp8FdBy/?tagged=thepredator
In regards to the masks - Maybe the movie will explain why this clan of Predators use that style.
Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 11, 2018, 04:10:08 PM
I think nooone can deny there is clearly AVP influences going on here , which would lead me to believe they are set within the time same universe as this film , can anyone answer my question , do you think there will be an alien connection? And if so how could they implement it ?
Perhaps this is why the breaks on alien awakening have been pulled ? ???
Quote from: Original Predator on May 14, 2018, 06:21:24 PMIf anything this film recognize all films and all put them in seperate tribes.Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 11, 2018, 04:10:08 PM
I think nooone can deny there is clearly AVP influences going on here , which would lead me to believe they are set within the time same universe as this film , can anyone answer my question , do you think there will be an alien connection? And if so how could they implement it ?
Perhaps this is why the breaks on alien awakening have been pulled ? ???
All signs are sounding like they aren't going to be ignoring anything at this point. Pretty sure I read in one of the set visit articles that they will touch on things from AVP even.
Quote from: Ultramorph on May 14, 2018, 08:44:12 PM
I see a reference to the Preds in the Antarctic being plausible.
Quote from: Lionhart on May 15, 2018, 05:33:18 AM
Teaser for avp was good, but boy was that movie bad lol.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 15, 2018, 06:05:05 AM
Making it longer and adding fake ass CGI blood helps?
Nnnnnooo... Nooo... Noooo.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 15, 2018, 06:05:05 AMThe fake blood, just why?!
Making it longer and adding fake ass CGI blood helps?
Nnnnnooo... Nooo... Noooo.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 15, 2018, 06:05:05 AMMaking it longer and adding fake ass CGI blood helps?
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 15, 2018, 08:28:32 AMQuote from: OpenMaw on May 15, 2018, 06:05:05 AMMaking it longer and adding fake ass CGI blood helps?
There are actually a couple of nice little character moments added that genuinely do add something to the movie if you ask me.
Still not a great film, but I find some of the new scenes far more interesting than the stuff from the theatrical cut.
Quote from: skhellter on May 15, 2018, 01:54:01 PM
...the end of the movie is acceptable? :laugh:
That film only gets more ludicrous as it goes along.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 15, 2018, 06:34:41 PM
Never understood the fuss about ADI's mandibles... Ok they're weaker than Winston's we get it... Like it was the biggest problem of the AVP movies :laugh:
Quote from: Scorpio on May 15, 2018, 07:07:00 PM
KNB did the same thing with the mandibles so it's not just ADI.
Quote from: Scorpio on May 15, 2018, 07:07:00 PM
KNB did the same thing with the mandibles so it's not just ADI.
Quote from: 426Buddy on May 15, 2018, 10:58:18 PMIt looked a bit generic, but it was easily some of the best shot material of AvP.
I actually didnt care for the end queen fight. I didnt like the way she moved or the design changes made to her.
Theres actually a nice article on the matter.
Quote from: Highland on May 16, 2018, 05:18:06 AMQuote from: Scorpio on May 15, 2018, 07:07:00 PMKNB did much of the mandible proportions right, but they sorely lacked in the subtlety of the finish.
KNB did the same thing with the mandibles so it's not just ADI.
It doesn't seem to be specific to just movies either. The new Sideshow Predator Statue looks like it's had it's faced panned in by a brick. Nobody can get them mandibles right, it's like Stan took that to the grave and we've been left with neds that can't copy the original for some reason.
Quote- Be Nice & Respecful. Be nice to other members. While a forum is for debating issues, just plain insulting people will not be tolerated.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 15, 2018, 06:34:41 PM
Never understood the fuss about ADI's mandibles... Ok they're weaker than Winston's we get it... Like it was the biggest problem of the AVP movies :laugh:
Quote from: dallevalle on May 16, 2018, 04:46:37 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 15, 2018, 06:34:41 PM
Never understood the fuss about ADI's mandibles... Ok they're weaker than Winston's we get it... Like it was the biggest problem of the AVP movies :laugh:
are you telling me that this looks fine to you ?
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 16, 2018, 05:18:48 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 16, 2018, 04:46:37 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 15, 2018, 06:34:41 PM
Never understood the fuss about ADI's mandibles... Ok they're weaker than Winston's we get it... Like it was the biggest problem of the AVP movies :laugh:
are you telling me that this looks fine to you ?
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)
Ok they're weaker than Winston's we get it
Quote from: azamultic on May 16, 2018, 05:51:49 PMOhhh my bad then.
KillCrites KNB did predators for movie Predators 2010.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 16, 2018, 04:46:37 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 15, 2018, 06:34:41 PM
Never understood the fuss about ADI's mandibles... Ok they're weaker than Winston's we get it... Like it was the biggest problem of the AVP movies :laugh:
are you telling me that this looks fine to you ?
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)
Quote from: KillCrites on May 16, 2018, 05:29:00 PM
I agree that the mandibles in both AvPs were bad but I think that ADI got it down in Predators.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Spoiler_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100706165848
Quote from: Master on May 16, 2018, 08:37:15 PMQuote from: KillCrites on May 16, 2018, 05:29:00 PM
I agree that the mandibles in both AvPs were bad but I think that ADI got it down in Predators.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Spoiler_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100706165848
There was nearly no movement in Predators. Proportions where right but the whole action was off.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 16, 2018, 05:18:48 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 16, 2018, 04:46:37 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 15, 2018, 06:34:41 PM
Never understood the fuss about ADI's mandibles... Ok they're weaker than Winston's we get it... Like it was the biggest problem of the AVP movies :laugh:
are you telling me that this looks fine to you ?
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)
Ok they're weaker than Winston's we get it
Ok they're weaker than Winston's we get it
Ok they're weaker than Winston's we get it
Ok they're weaker than Winston's we get it
Quote from: KillCrites on May 16, 2018, 05:29:00 PM
I agree that the mandibles in both AvPs were bad but I think that ADI got it down in Predators.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Spoiler_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100706165848
Quote from: Wysps on May 17, 2018, 12:49:01 AMQuote from: KillCrites on May 16, 2018, 05:29:00 PM
I agree that the mandibles in both AvPs were bad but I think that ADI got it down in Predators.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Spoiler_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100706165848
Aside from the mandibles, I don't remember the coloring being so harsh in Predators. Was he always that yellow? He looks way jaundiced...
Quote from: PredBabe on May 17, 2018, 01:07:03 AMQuote from: Wysps on May 17, 2018, 12:49:01 AMQuote from: KillCrites on May 16, 2018, 05:29:00 PM
I agree that the mandibles in both AvPs were bad but I think that ADI got it down in Predators.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Spoiler_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100706165848
Aside from the mandibles, I don't remember the coloring being so harsh in Predators. Was he always that yellow? He looks way jaundiced...
It's the lighting/fire that's making the yellow look more intense.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 16, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)
Quote from: KillCrites on May 16, 2018, 05:29:00 PM
I agree that the mandibles in both AvPs were bad but I think that ADI got it down in Predators.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Spoiler_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100706165848
Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2018, 03:52:06 AM
I think all the Predators have looked successively worse since the first movie, which is worrying since the original was a rush job. None of the others ever looked as organic and alive again.
Some think it's nitpicky to go on about things like mandibles, but it's the title freakin' character. If it looks off or looks silly or is distractingly bad, it's going to bring the film down. And not just for fans, but the general audience as well. The idea that there are people who go to a movie called Predator (or whatever variation) and don't pay attention to the look of the thing is ... I don't even know what you'd call it.
Quote from: Huggs on May 16, 2018, 09:51:56 PMMandibles were stiff and had minimal movement. All preds, had always opened mouth, which was especially noticable on the classic. Many small things, like detaching air hoses to remove the mask, were completely forgotten.
The mandibles were an issue?
Quote from: D88M on May 17, 2018, 03:59:25 AM
True, in AVP, AVPR and Predators they all looked awful, i know Winstons was the master of his craft, but it is really THAT difficult to make a decent Predator? It has been more than 20 years from the first one!
Quote from: Master on May 17, 2018, 06:40:23 AM
Mandibles were stiff and had minimal movement. All preds, had always opened mouth, which was especially noticable on the classic. Many small things, like detaching air hoses to remove the mask, were completely forgotten.
Quote from: Scorpio on May 17, 2018, 03:04:16 AM(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/04/ec/d604ecaffad34bc5b57e2c4ac0d0225b.gif)Quote from: dallevalle on May 16, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)
That is quality work. I'm being serious. Say what you will about the design, but the animatronics are awesome.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 11:34:34 AMQuote from: Scorpio on May 17, 2018, 03:04:16 AMhttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/04/ec/d604ecaffad34bc5b57e2c4ac0d0225b.gifQuote from: dallevalle on May 16, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)
That is quality work. I'm being serious. Say what you will about the design, but the animatronics are awesome.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ImpartialBonyDunlin-size_restricted.gif
no freaking way this is good animatronics. ( scar looks like he was dropped as a babie.)
now this is what you call amazing animatronics and creature design.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/6f/08/996f082b7112c3d9eef991320d6e6fd0.gif
https://78.media.tumblr.com/3ab7516e3eaa79a11367a3fedcc516b6/tumblr_nl7pj5D1nC1u1vwpho2_500.gif
Quote from: goose_3387 on May 17, 2018, 12:25:30 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 11:34:34 AMQuote from: Scorpio on May 17, 2018, 03:04:16 AMhttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/04/ec/d604ecaffad34bc5b57e2c4ac0d0225b.gifQuote from: dallevalle on May 16, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)
That is quality work. I'm being serious. Say what you will about the design, but the animatronics are awesome.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ImpartialBonyDunlin-size_restricted.gif
no freaking way this is good animatronics. ( scar looks like he was dropped as a babie.)
now this is what you call amazing animatronics and creature design.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/6f/08/996f082b7112c3d9eef991320d6e6fd0.gif
https://78.media.tumblr.com/3ab7516e3eaa79a11367a3fedcc516b6/tumblr_nl7pj5D1nC1u1vwpho2_500.gif
It's crazy how 31 years later no-one has been able to equal the mandibles as seen on the original. It looks like a real life alien still to this day.
A closed mouth and fully functioning mandibles are the most important parts of what makes the Predator look so real.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 17, 2018, 12:49:18 PM
I think that's part of what helped with the original creature design. Those guys were young, hungry, and full of passion and panic. The mantra "make it work, make it work, make it work!" Very clearly surrounded them.
Again, just looking at the images there you can see that the eyes, the skin tones/texture, and the shape are all wrong. Not that they have to be identical, but they're wrong in the sense that they don't convey a believable creature. It looks like an animatronic mask.
The original does not. The eyes are probably the worst part. Makes him look like a puppy dog instead of a Predator.
Quote from: Original Predator on May 17, 2018, 02:25:58 PM
Also, being that this is the trailer release thread. Is this the assumed trailer to be used in DP2? (asked earlier but the "mandible turn occurred")
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 17, 2018, 02:39:24 PM
We'll see, Deadpool is hard R so it's possible they show the Cinemacon trailer, which was reportedly much bloodier and had some f-bombs.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 17, 2018, 02:39:24 PM
We'll see, Deadpool is hard R so it's possible they show the Cinemacon trailer, which was reportedly much bloodier and had some f-bombs.
Quote from: 426Buddy on May 17, 2018, 04:09:49 PM
I think the problem is that a lot of fans have it in their head that a predator film has to be "this" or "that".
If it doesn't conform to their personal vision of what a predator film has to be, then its garbage.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:15:12 PMQuote from: 426Buddy on May 17, 2018, 04:09:49 PM
I think the problem is that a lot of fans have it in their head that a predator film has to be "this" or "that".
If it doesn't conform to their personal vision of what a predator film has to be, then its garbage.
well the trailer surely dident help them out at all
it was god awful and if the trailers sucks there isent much hope for the movie itself.
Quote from: MudButt on May 17, 2018, 04:16:47 PM
I love Shane Black movies. But they are definitely Shane Black films. Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang and The Nice Guys are great movies. Iron Man 3 is a great Shane Black movie but a bad MCU movie because it was barely connected to the MCU, however it's still a pretty good flick.
Look, we are the hardcore fans of this franchise. Some of us like or even love some of the later bad films of each franchise. A big issue with the sequels is that directors keep trying to throw in homages to the originals and follow the same idea of prior films. Also, back when the AVP movies were being made Fox was notorious for being monsters during production and keeping directors and writers from doing anything that they felt wouldn't appeal to a mass audience.
Now we're with a Fox that has given us films like Logan, Deadpool, Kingsman, The Shape of Water, and the Planet of the Apes trilogy. They aren't perfect, they've made some bad movies recently but they are definitely taking risks on filmmakers now more than they were before. Perhaps a Shane Black Predator movie is exactly what we need to get this franchise back on track. Assuming it's a good movie.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:02:27 PM
the problem with shane black directing is that this movie might as well be called a action/comedy and that dosen't fit for a predator movie
and to be fair most of he's movies are very average.
they should have brought back John McTiernan for this one.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 17, 2018, 04:25:45 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:02:27 PM
the problem with shane black directing is that this movie might as well be called a action/comedy and that dosen't fit for a predator movie
and to be fair most of he's movies are very average.
they should have brought back John McTiernan for this one.
No sir can't do... The guy is blacklisted in hollywood due to various internal and legal problems... For someone who wants him back and seem to really like this director (just like i do), you seem to ignore what is his current status in the movie industry... ;)
Quote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:23:36 PMQuote from: MudButt on May 17, 2018, 04:16:47 PM
I love Shane Black movies. But they are definitely Shane Black films. Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang and The Nice Guys are great movies. Iron Man 3 is a great Shane Black movie but a bad MCU movie because it was barely connected to the MCU, however it's still a pretty good flick.
Look, we are the hardcore fans of this franchise. Some of us like or even love some of the later bad films of each franchise. A big issue with the sequels is that directors keep trying to throw in homages to the originals and follow the same idea of prior films. Also, back when the AVP movies were being made Fox was notorious for being monsters during production and keeping directors and writers from doing anything that they felt wouldn't appeal to a mass audience.
Now we're with a Fox that has given us films like Logan, Deadpool, Kingsman, The Shape of Water, and the Planet of the Apes trilogy. They aren't perfect, they've made some bad movies recently but they are definitely taking risks on filmmakers now more than they were before. Perhaps a Shane Black Predator movie is exactly what we need to get this franchise back on track. Assuming it's a good movie.
i agree with some of this but when you say *getting the franchise back on track* i cant see that now when they changed the rules for the preds (hunting for dna) that to me is fare fare from getting back on track. and we get a super cgi predator a mega predator that is ripped right out of resident evil ( huge licker) it just sounds stupid to me.
Quote from: MudButt on May 17, 2018, 04:31:01 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:23:36 PMQuote from: MudButt on May 17, 2018, 04:16:47 PM
I love Shane Black movies. But they are definitely Shane Black films. Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang and The Nice Guys are great movies. Iron Man 3 is a great Shane Black movie but a bad MCU movie because it was barely connected to the MCU, however it's still a pretty good flick.
Look, we are the hardcore fans of this franchise. Some of us like or even love some of the later bad films of each franchise. A big issue with the sequels is that directors keep trying to throw in homages to the originals and follow the same idea of prior films. Also, back when the AVP movies were being made Fox was notorious for being monsters during production and keeping directors and writers from doing anything that they felt wouldn't appeal to a mass audience.
Now we're with a Fox that has given us films like Logan, Deadpool, Kingsman, The Shape of Water, and the Planet of the Apes trilogy. They aren't perfect, they've made some bad movies recently but they are definitely taking risks on filmmakers now more than they were before. Perhaps a Shane Black Predator movie is exactly what we need to get this franchise back on track. Assuming it's a good movie.
i agree with some of this but when you say *getting the franchise back on track* i cant see that now when they changed the rules for the preds (hunting for dna) that to me is fare fare from getting back on track. and we get a super cgi predator a mega predator that is ripped right out of resident evil ( huge licker) it just sounds stupid to me.
There has been nothing to confirm or even give you the thought about a fully CGI Predator. We have yet to see all of the predators that are appearing in the film and there have been numerous interviews with Shane Black and the cast talking about the suits that are being worn by actual people.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 17, 2018, 04:36:48 PMQuote from: MudButt on May 17, 2018, 04:31:01 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:23:36 PMQuote from: MudButt on May 17, 2018, 04:16:47 PM
I love Shane Black movies. But they are definitely Shane Black films. Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang and The Nice Guys are great movies. Iron Man 3 is a great Shane Black movie but a bad MCU movie because it was barely connected to the MCU, however it's still a pretty good flick.
Look, we are the hardcore fans of this franchise. Some of us like or even love some of the later bad films of each franchise. A big issue with the sequels is that directors keep trying to throw in homages to the originals and follow the same idea of prior films. Also, back when the AVP movies were being made Fox was notorious for being monsters during production and keeping directors and writers from doing anything that they felt wouldn't appeal to a mass audience.
Now we're with a Fox that has given us films like Logan, Deadpool, Kingsman, The Shape of Water, and the Planet of the Apes trilogy. They aren't perfect, they've made some bad movies recently but they are definitely taking risks on filmmakers now more than they were before. Perhaps a Shane Black Predator movie is exactly what we need to get this franchise back on track. Assuming it's a good movie.
i agree with some of this but when you say *getting the franchise back on track* i cant see that now when they changed the rules for the preds (hunting for dna) that to me is fare fare from getting back on track. and we get a super cgi predator a mega predator that is ripped right out of resident evil ( huge licker) it just sounds stupid to me.
There has been nothing to confirm or even give you the thought about a fully CGI Predator. We have yet to see all of the predators that are appearing in the film and there have been numerous interviews with Shane Black and the cast talking about the suits that are being worn by actual people.
We'll definitely have 3 preds suits in the movie, it's confirmed by various interviews released recently, but for a fourth pred it will probably be motion capture/CGI, because, well... I don't know if you read the script or how much you know of it, so i don't want to spoil it ;)
Quote from: MudButt on May 17, 2018, 04:45:18 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 17, 2018, 04:36:48 PMQuote from: MudButt on May 17, 2018, 04:31:01 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:23:36 PMQuote from: MudButt on May 17, 2018, 04:16:47 PM
I love Shane Black movies. But they are definitely Shane Black films. Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang and The Nice Guys are great movies. Iron Man 3 is a great Shane Black movie but a bad MCU movie because it was barely connected to the MCU, however it's still a pretty good flick.
Look, we are the hardcore fans of this franchise. Some of us like or even love some of the later bad films of each franchise. A big issue with the sequels is that directors keep trying to throw in homages to the originals and follow the same idea of prior films. Also, back when the AVP movies were being made Fox was notorious for being monsters during production and keeping directors and writers from doing anything that they felt wouldn't appeal to a mass audience.
Now we're with a Fox that has given us films like Logan, Deadpool, Kingsman, The Shape of Water, and the Planet of the Apes trilogy. They aren't perfect, they've made some bad movies recently but they are definitely taking risks on filmmakers now more than they were before. Perhaps a Shane Black Predator movie is exactly what we need to get this franchise back on track. Assuming it's a good movie.
i agree with some of this but when you say *getting the franchise back on track* i cant see that now when they changed the rules for the preds (hunting for dna) that to me is fare fare from getting back on track. and we get a super cgi predator a mega predator that is ripped right out of resident evil ( huge licker) it just sounds stupid to me.
There has been nothing to confirm or even give you the thought about a fully CGI Predator. We have yet to see all of the predators that are appearing in the film and there have been numerous interviews with Shane Black and the cast talking about the suits that are being worn by actual people.
We'll definitely have 3 preds suits in the movie, it's confirmed by various interviews released recently, but for a fourth pred it will probably be motion capture/CGI, because, well... I don't know if you read the script or how much you know of it, so i don't want to spoil it ;)
I've read it, and yes while that might be something they do for those specific reasons but there are also CGI tricks to modify a physical object, and yes, human actor. See Infinity War or the Lord of the Rings films for examples. However, even if they do MoCap for that character, films like the Planet of the Apes trilogy or the new Star Wars movie show that you can create realistic effects now a days.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:02:27 PM
the problem with shane black directing is that this movie might as well be called a action/comedy and that dosen't fit for a predator movie
and to be fair most of he's movies are very average.
they should have brought back John McTiernan for this one.
Quote from: MudButt on May 17, 2018, 05:33:44 PM
It's a better argument to be hopeful about the film than when we had two first time directors doing AvP: R and the guy who directed Resident Evil and Soldier for the first AvP. Doesn't mean the movie can't be bad, because it certainly can be. These days though it's pretty good to grab a talented director and give them a go at bringing a franchise back.
Quote from: Original Predator on May 17, 2018, 05:16:07 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:02:27 PM
the problem with shane black directing is that this movie might as well be called a action/comedy and that dosen't fit for a predator movie
and to be fair most of he's movies are very average.
they should have brought back John McTiernan for this one.
"B,b,b,b,b.b.b....bbbbbut he did Kiss Kiss bang bang and Nice Guys!!!!!!"
I remember when that was the 'argument' around here, for why this movie was going to be amazing.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 17, 2018, 05:43:55 PMQuote from: Original Predator on May 17, 2018, 05:16:07 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:02:27 PM
the problem with shane black directing is that this movie might as well be called a action/comedy and that dosen't fit for a predator movie
and to be fair most of he's movies are very average.
they should have brought back John McTiernan for this one.
"B,b,b,b,b.b.b....bbbbbut he did Kiss Kiss bang bang and Nice Guys!!!!!!"
I remember when that was the 'argument' around here, for why this movie was going to be amazing.
I think the real "argument" is, wait for it........... Shane Black is a better director than those who did the AVP's and Predators, ta daa ! So it's enough to hope it will be better than those movies ! Simple argument, you should be able to understand it :P
Quote from: Master on May 17, 2018, 06:01:01 PM
Nearly themase was being told before Predators. Look what we've got.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 17, 2018, 05:43:55 PMQuote from: Original Predator on May 17, 2018, 05:16:07 PMQuote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:02:27 PM
the problem with shane black directing is that this movie might as well be called a action/comedy and that dosen't fit for a predator movie
and to be fair most of he's movies are very average.
they should have brought back John McTiernan for this one.
"B,b,b,b,b.b.b....bbbbbut he did Kiss Kiss bang bang and Nice Guys!!!!!!"
I remember when that was the 'argument' around here, for why this movie was going to be amazing.
I think the real "argument" is, wait for it........... Shane Black is a better director than those who did the AVP's and Predators, ta daa ! So it's enough to hope it will be better than those movies ! Simple argument, you should be able to understand it :P
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 17, 2018, 06:04:58 PMQuote from: Master on May 17, 2018, 06:01:01 PM
Nearly themase was being told before Predators. Look what we've got.
Putting Nimrod Antal or Robert Rodriguez, the king of laziness on a movie set, in the same league as Black is a mistake... Pitty you don't see that ;)
Quote from: Master on May 17, 2018, 06:21:18 PMWhat I see is different type of people. One side is optimistic and positive and desides to hope for better, and being hyped. And the other side is being pisimistic and negative, and deside to "hate" on it, or just don't put too much hope for it. I am not judging somebody and calling them pesimistic is not a bad thing, but i think it's the case of the situation.Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 17, 2018, 06:04:58 PMQuote from: Master on May 17, 2018, 06:01:01 PM
Nearly themase was being told before Predators. Look what we've got.
Putting Nimrod Antal or Robert Rodriguez, the king of laziness on a movie set, in the same league as Black is a mistake... Pitty you don't see that ;)
What I see and what I don't is not the point. Same happened before. Bad script, known name, great fan hype and disappointment in cinema.
Quote from: Master on May 17, 2018, 06:41:44 PM
It's not hate, it's concern. Core story stinks and focus on thing that were rightly dumped from Predators. Remember when people were dissing predator dogs from Ps script? Remember this picture?
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/48/e5/74/48e5740127537b1cd134f43ed9c2a37d.jpg)
I do. I also remeber the relief when dogs turned out nothing like this. What we get in this one? Predator dogs with mandibles and dreadlocks...
I dont know what happened to people, that they prise those ideas all of a sudden.
Quote from: Master on May 17, 2018, 07:09:09 PM
I'm concerned the most about the story and it's crap. I'm not guessing, I know. I have the script, I read it. Trailer confirms the story is basically thesame. I'm talking about facts.
Quote from: Original Predator on May 17, 2018, 02:25:58 PM
Do they not have the Winston stuff "lying around"? These are props and costumes and such, ultimately, why not just rebuild or even use those? Agree, part of the problem has been the toy-pred looking Preds vs. actual creepy/scary looking preds, another aspect that's fallen short in the "after" movies.
Also, being that this is the trailer release thread. Is this the assumed trailer to be used in DP2? (asked earlier but the "mandible turn occurred")
Quote from: azamultic on May 17, 2018, 02:58:15 PM
OpenMaw I do love Winston job more than ADI's on the predator. But I really do think people exaggerating theirs statements and also being bias.
Winston team did everything really fast, they didn't have much time(how you said earlier) and they just improvised all around. It was amazing, but I think the reason why Original Predator looks amazing it's because of the Director John McT did amazing job showing us the creature.
Director is the main thing, look and Straus brothers, even though Steve Wang worked for them predator it self was still meeeeeeh.
Also ADI guys did work for Stan and they know how to do prostetics, and know how Winston used to work, so it's not that their skill level is low, but the thing that director can't show it properly.
I don't like the predator face from avp 2004 I agree with that, but I do think the technology of animatronics is much better, just from logical point of view. Because in original animatronics of the face did man who never did this mandibles before and he told that mandibles weren't perfect there.
"just looking at the images there you can see that the eyes, the skin tones/texture, and the shape are all wrong. Not that they have to be identical, but they're wrong in the sense that they don't convey a believable creature." that is the work of director, even original costums going to look terrible with off lighting and bad camera work. So i do think people being less technical and too opiniated. and it's hard to judge the lighting and camera work from this promo shots.
Quote from: MudButt on May 17, 2018, 06:50:37 PM
Look,
That leaked script had some bonkers stuff in there. Some bad dialogue. I pray that they fixed those things as the years have gone on. I think regardless though, this movie is going to have a lot of different idea brought to the Predator lore. Some of it will piss people off, whether it works in the film or not.
We got a bad teaser. No way around it. They had a shot to hype up all of the negative feedback that has been on the internet about the leaked plot points and set photos and instead they released that poorly edited teaser which did nothing for a lot of people. Some of the more extreme members on this forum are now saying this movie is doomed because of 90 seconds of footage.
The movie hasn't exactly done a lot for itself to give people hope. I'll say that. The talent on board is what I cling on to but that isn't always enough for everyone. We as fans are allowed to be concerned for a new movie in the franchise. We should just try to be fair about it though.
Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2018, 09:29:28 PM
Logically it's entirely possible to do worse, because the ultimate test of an effect is whether it's believable and achieves its goal. It has nothing to do with the techniques or technology that go into it.
Even the second Predator is a step down in quality. The closeup face had googly eyes and the mandibles on the head Kevin Peter Hall wore were stiff and twitchy. It was undoubtedly more sophisticated than the original, but it wasn't as effective.
Quote from: azamultic on May 17, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Now saying that Original Predator looks good on a day light on the BtS video is a little bit off. The quality of the video is not so well, and I am sure if you put new suites next to them they will look the same or even better.
Quote from: azamultic on May 17, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Logicly it's imposible to make worse practical effects now then in 1987 specially with the guys who worked for Stan in 1985 for Aliens, tools get better, more expirience and time to create new methods.
Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2018, 09:29:28 PM
Logically it's entirely possible to do worse, because the ultimate test of an effect is whether it's believable and achieves its goal. It has nothing to do with the techniques or technology that go into it.
Even the second Predator is a step down in quality. The closeup face had googly eyes and the mandibles on the head Kevin Peter Hall wore were stiff and twitchy. It was undoubtedly more sophisticated than the original, but it wasn't as effective.
Quote from: azamultic on May 17, 2018, 09:55:07 PMYeah, and it looked worse. The eyes are cartoonish. They don't look real at all.
The closeup face was a fully animatronic puppet, they didn't have fully animatronic head in the first one.
QuoteGive Straus brothers original castume of the Predator and they would still make a bad movie and costume will look fake. Give John Mct costume of AVP 2004, and I am sure he can make it look much more awesome.The Strause Brothers and Daniel Pearl did a great job of filming Wolf. The difference McTiernan would give to Scar is that he wouldn't tell the crew to try to make it look "heroic" and would put the slime back on it. That goes much further than the latex and animatronics used to make it.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 17, 2018, 09:59:08 PMQuote from: azamultic on May 17, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Now saying that Original Predator looks good on a day light on the BtS video is a little bit off. The quality of the video is not so well, and I am sure if you put new suites next to them they will look the same or even better.
No. They won't, because they don't. They look like rubbery suits.Quote from: azamultic on May 17, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
Logicly it's imposible to make worse practical effects now then in 1987 specially with the guys who worked for Stan in 1985 for Aliens, tools get better, more expirience and time to create new methods.
Based on what? I don't follow how you think how that works. As much as I hate the Newborn, it's a clearly superior piece of work than what ADI did in Harbinger Down.
Just because technology has improved does not mean the outcome is inherently better. If anything I think the emphasis on adding expression was a detriment to the creature's design and that less is sometimes more. The focus on KPH's body language, and the use of a few subtle facial movents lent to a far better design than trying to stuff the head with dozens of mechanisms to give the face more expression. Expression which gave the creature a more cartoon, over the top, appearance. You couple that with the ADI guys not following on from the work laid down in the first two Predator films, and clearly using different materials for the actual construction of the suits, it all adds up to something that is inferior in nearly ever way.Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2018, 09:29:28 PM
Logically it's entirely possible to do worse, because the ultimate test of an effect is whether it's believable and achieves its goal. It has nothing to do with the techniques or technology that go into it.
Even the second Predator is a step down in quality. The closeup face had googly eyes and the mandibles on the head Kevin Peter Hall wore were stiff and twitchy. It was undoubtedly more sophisticated than the original, but it wasn't as effective.
Indeed.
Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2018, 10:17:42 PMQuote from: azamultic on May 17, 2018, 09:55:07 PMYeah, and it looked worse. The eyes are cartoonish. They don't look real at all.
The closeup face was a fully animatronic puppet, they didn't have fully animatronic head in the first one.QuoteGive Straus brothers original castume of the Predator and they would still make a bad movie and costume will look fake. Give John Mct costume of AVP 2004, and I am sure he can make it look much more awesome.The Strause Brothers and Daniel Pearl did a great job of filming Wolf. The difference McTiernan would give to Scar is that he wouldn't tell the crew to try to make it look "heroic" and would put the slime back on it. That goes much further than the latex and animatronics used to make it.
Quote from: azamultic on May 17, 2018, 10:34:36 PMThat's how it was designed to be filmed, but. It was made specifically for the big closeups of the face.
Agree that it looked cartoony(but I loved it), and I think that it's fault of the Stephen Hopkins for shooting it like this.
Quote from: SiL on May 17, 2018, 11:23:09 PMI am sure Director or screenwriters could have avoided that shot, or do it differently with the animatronic mask on Kevin, like in the first movie, but they didn't. Therefore team was asked to make the animatronic face.(Just my guess)Quote from: azamultic on May 17, 2018, 10:34:36 PMThat's how it was designed to be filmed, but. It was made specifically for the big closeups of the face.
Agree that it looked cartoony(but I loved it), and I think that it's fault of the Stephen Hopkins for shooting it like this.
Quote from: SiL on May 18, 2018, 12:07:58 AM
They wanted the animatronic face to get more detail in the closeups, but it just didn't work well. The head that Kevin wore has very twitchy mandibles that almost look broken (the mechanism, not the mandibles) in some shots.
Quote from: PredBabe on May 18, 2018, 02:48:52 AM
Maybe it's just me but I can't imagine Stan Winston's original design in place of Scar's design. For better or worse, the predator design that they used fit the style and tone of AVP more than the original would have...
Quote from: Scorpio on May 18, 2018, 03:28:53 AMQuote from: PredBabe on May 18, 2018, 02:48:52 AM
Maybe it's just me but I can't imagine Stan Winston's original design in place of Scar's design. For better or worse, the predator design that they used fit the style and tone of AVP more than the original would have...
That's because the original design looked like he wanted to rip her head off rather than luvey duvey stuff.
Quote from: SiL on May 18, 2018, 04:35:37 AM
The original actually has an incredibly expressive face, particularly the eyebrows. That brow lift when he spots the spikes in Dutch's trap is golden, or the slight scowl when it roars at Dutch after taking off its mask. It's just that the expressions are subtle and realistic, not cartoonishly exaggerated like Predator 2 or AvP, or stiff like Predators and AvPR.
I think that's the issue with basically all of the faces since the original. Look at the eyebrows: they either skyrocket up the forehead like a Looney Tunes character or are fixed in place. Gotta get that balance.
Quote from: Scorpio on May 18, 2018, 04:55:38 AM
The original predator didn't have to express as much. You're probably reading too much into it, Sil. Most of the expression came from Kevin Peter Hall.
Quote from: PredBabe on May 18, 2018, 02:48:52 AM
Maybe it's just me but I can't imagine Stan Winston's original design in place of Scar's design. For better or worse, the predator design that they used fit the style and tone of AVP more than the original would have... though that isn't exactly saying much for the movie itself seeing as it's pretty mediocre even though it's one of Anderson's stronger movies.
Quote from: Scorpio on May 18, 2018, 04:55:38 AMI don't think he's reading too much into it at all, it's the nail on the head as to what helped make the original design so realistic along with KPH's body language.
The original predator didn't have to express as much. You're probably reading too much into it, Sil. Most of the expression came from Kevin Peter Hall.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 18, 2018, 05:03:51 AMQuote from: PredBabe on May 18, 2018, 02:48:52 AM
Maybe it's just me but I can't imagine Stan Winston's original design in place of Scar's design. For better or worse, the predator design that they used fit the style and tone of AVP more than the original would have... though that isn't exactly saying much for the movie itself seeing as it's pretty mediocre even though it's one of Anderson's stronger movies.
Which is the biggest failing of AVP. The tone is wrong. The concept art for the film actually depicted much more classic looking Predators and much more gigeresque Aliens.
Something went horribly wrong from concept to realization.
Quote from: SiL on May 18, 2018, 05:18:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAzja2tWAg8
Watch that dude's eyebrows, the slight twitches in the mandibles, the throbbing of the temples. All little, subtle motions creating great expressiveness without going over the top or looking stiff.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:02:27 PM
the problem with shane black directing is that this movie might as well be called a action/comedy and that dosen't fit for a predator movie
and to be fair most of he's movies are very average.
they should have brought back John McTiernan for this one.
Quote from: CelticP on May 18, 2018, 06:10:53 AM
Franchises should evolve.
Quote from: CelticP on May 18, 2018, 06:25:32 AM
Nah. There's no force on this earth that can capture what made Predator good. Anyone who does is just copying it.
If you want Predator, just watch Predator.
I've seen Predator. Show me something I haven't seen.
Quote from: SiL on May 18, 2018, 05:18:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAzja2tWAg8
Watch that dude's eyebrows, the slight twitches in the mandibles, the throbbing of the temples. All little, subtle motions creating great expressiveness without going over the top or looking stiff.
Quote from: dallevalle on May 17, 2018, 04:02:27 PMthe problem with shane black directing is that this movie might as well be called a action/comedy and that dosen't fit for a predator movie
Quote from: SiL on May 18, 2018, 11:17:16 AMPretty big difference between an action movie one liner, and dialogue between characters that's clearly constructed to be comedy. Black's definitely more on the second.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 18, 2018, 11:31:26 AMAll two of them. The Predator has substantially more comedic interactions, page after page.
The pussy jokes?
QuoteNot to mention all the other unintentionally hilarious stuff in the first movie.If it's unintentional, its irrelevant. People's issues are the intentional stuff.
QuoteNot saying I want an out-and-out comedy, but the first film was hardly Schindler's List in the laughs department.It took itself seriously enough. This one, ehh, unless they've cleaned it up from the script. But the trailer isn't showing that.
Quote from: SiL on May 18, 2018, 04:43:40 AM
I think so. Little movements to accentuate the expression rather than overacting. We wouldn't accept it from a human actor; why accept it from a mechanical one?
Quote from: ace3g on May 18, 2018, 03:07:29 PM
Well let's see if this trailer is different than the one that was released online. Recently classified (For Deadpool 2)
Predator, The (2018) (trailer D) 14A May 16, 2018 1:34 20th Century Fox
Quote from: ace3g on May 18, 2018, 03:07:29 PMLet me get this straight Ace are you saying that there is a trailer for The Predator before Deadpool 2?
Well let's see if this trailer is different than the one that was released online. Recently classified (For Deadpool 2)
Predator, The (2018) (trailer D) 14A May 16, 2018 1:34 20th Century Fox
Quote from: Actual Hybrid on May 18, 2018, 07:08:41 PMQuote from: MudButt on May 18, 2018, 05:43:02 PM
I saw the Predator teaser before my screening of Deadpool 2. We probably won't get a new trailer until mid-July. Possible late June. Depends if they plan to released 1 or 2 more trailers. Fox usually likes to release a decent amount of trailers for their films so we might get two more. I'd imagine they want to release one sooner than later though since the response to this teaser wasn't very positive.
Shit. Hoping for one around 2.5 min or more. RSA does masterful trailers, one for Robin Hood was better than the actual film
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 19, 2018, 06:07:13 AM
Makes no sense. They all try so hard to get the original predator look and they either make the mistake of misplacing the mandibles or don't spend enough time to look at the details that sold the effect of the original.
Quote from: Highland on May 19, 2018, 09:04:42 AMBut "something new" contradicts trying to remake the classic look in each film. That was kind of the point I tried to make.Quote from: skull-splitter on May 19, 2018, 06:07:13 AM
Makes no sense. They all try so hard to get the original predator look and they either make the mistake of misplacing the mandibles or don't spend enough time to look at the details that sold the effect of the original.
I don't think it's a mistake, it's most likely a combination of choice and lighting. The choice to make the Predator look different and the Directors style when filming. There's even a fan suit you can buy that everyone raves about that's nearly perfect.
It can be replicated, but I guess Hollywood figures we audiences always want something new ( Even the Marvel movies seem to change movie to movie).
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 19, 2018, 03:00:05 PMQuote from: Highland on May 19, 2018, 09:04:42 AMBut "something new" contradicts trying to remake the classic look in each film. That was kind of the point I tried to make.Quote from: skull-splitter on May 19, 2018, 06:07:13 AM
Makes no sense. They all try so hard to get the original predator look and they either make the mistake of misplacing the mandibles or don't spend enough time to look at the details that sold the effect of the original.
I don't think it's a mistake, it's most likely a combination of choice and lighting. The choice to make the Predator look different and the Directors style when filming. There's even a fan suit you can buy that everyone raves about that's nearly perfect.
It can be replicated, but I guess Hollywood figures we audiences always want something new ( Even the Marvel movies seem to change movie to movie).
Quote from: ace3g on May 19, 2018, 04:41:42 PM
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Quote from: ELDERCLANLEADER on May 20, 2018, 12:45:09 AMOh I have had faith as well, I just just roll my eyes at all the haterade
Great podcast hicks , really enjoyed this one , you basically share my view on The Predator, nice to see I'm not the only one that has faith in this film , after all the negativity it's been getting. ;)
Quote from: Highland on May 20, 2018, 01:47:12 AMQuote from: skull-splitter on May 19, 2018, 03:00:05 PMQuote from: Highland on May 19, 2018, 09:04:42 AMBut "something new" contradicts trying to remake the classic look in each film. That was kind of the point I tried to make.Quote from: skull-splitter on May 19, 2018, 06:07:13 AM
Makes no sense. They all try so hard to get the original predator look and they either make the mistake of misplacing the mandibles or don't spend enough time to look at the details that sold the effect of the original.
I don't think it's a mistake, it's most likely a combination of choice and lighting. The choice to make the Predator look different and the Directors style when filming. There's even a fan suit you can buy that everyone raves about that's nearly perfect.
It can be replicated, but I guess Hollywood figures we audiences always want something new ( Even the Marvel movies seem to change movie to movie).
They've only tried to replicate the classic in Predators. All the other movies went for their own style. They nearly got it, but like Sil mentioned I think the movement was off, the mandibles were not quite right.
Quote from: ace3g on May 20, 2018, 09:39:24 PMThat's AMAZING ;D
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi-P7cAAYhS/?tagged=thepredator
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 18, 2018, 11:31:26 AMQuote from: SiL on May 18, 2018, 11:17:16 AMPretty big difference between an action movie one liner, and dialogue between characters that's clearly constructed to be comedy. Black's definitely more on the second.
The pussy jokes?
Not to mention all the other unintentionally hilarious stuff in the first movie.
Not saying I want an out-and-out comedy, but the first film was hardly Schindler's List in the laughs department.
Quote from: Original Predator on May 20, 2018, 11:50:34 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on May 18, 2018, 11:31:26 AMQuote from: SiL on May 18, 2018, 11:17:16 AMPretty big difference between an action movie one liner, and dialogue between characters that's clearly constructed to be comedy. Black's definitely more on the second.
The pussy jokes?
Not to mention all the other unintentionally hilarious stuff in the first movie.
Not saying I want an out-and-out comedy, but the first film was hardly Schindler's List in the laughs department.
Can you give some other "unintentionally hilarious stuff" examples?
Quote from: JungleHunter87 on May 21, 2018, 12:23:15 AM
I mean, can you REALLY imagine a soldier humping a Chopper mounted weapon, through the mountainous region of the Central American jungle?
Quote from: Huggs on May 21, 2018, 12:40:34 AMQuote from: JungleHunter87 on May 21, 2018, 12:23:15 AM
I mean, can you REALLY imagine a soldier humping a Chopper mounted weapon, through the mountainous region of the Central American jungle?
That's gonna take some skill, and some serious staying power right there. :D
Quote from: JungleHunter87 on May 21, 2018, 02:30:54 AM
Well he did say he was a "Sexual Tyrannosaurus". ;) :D
Quote from: SiL on May 21, 2018, 04:08:36 AM
The minigun isn't really that funny. It's ludicrously over the top, but the general reaction is usually "f**k yeah!" rather than people getting torn out of the film splitting their sides with laughter.
It was also something added during production. In the script, Old Painless is an M60 SAW.
Quote from: SiL on May 21, 2018, 04:48:21 AM
I never said the reaction "has to be", I said it generally is. Most people think it's cool. It's over the top and 80s, but people don't generally burst into laughter and get sucked out of the film by the sight of it. I'm not saying nobody does, just it's not what you normally see watching the film with people.
EDIT
Painless was scripted to be the M60 that Mac carries.
QuoteEDIT
Painless was scripted to be the M60 that Mac carries.
Quote from: JungleHunter87 on May 21, 2018, 05:01:13 AM
Thanks for the info! I wonder what Mac's weapon would have been in return?
Quote from: Highland on May 21, 2018, 05:02:45 AM
I don't think you can include the jokes either. The jokes are not just meant to be funny to the audience, in fact I'd say that's not even the primary goal of the jokes. It's to show not only the different type of soldier, but also the relationship between Hawkins and Billy. Then you get the pay off when Billy actually likes one.
It's called character building, it also makes us feel more sorry for Hawkins when he gets diced up.
There's also the tonal balance of the film. It's a big bad ass 80's action shooter, so it works and it kinda still works in movies like the expendables ( although they go to far with it IMO).
QuoteIt's also not that far from reality.
They were playing with the idea of a man portable version of the minigun IRL. That's where the idea came from in the first place. The problems with doing so are obvious.
Though we do actually have a proper portable "suit case size" minigun now.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 21, 2018, 05:19:59 AM
It's also not that far from reality.
They were playing with the idea of a man portable version of the minigun IRL. That's where the idea came from in the first place. The problems with doing so are obvious.
Though we do actually have a proper portable "suit case size" minigun now.Quote from: JungleHunter87 on May 21, 2018, 05:01:13 AM
Thanks for the info! I wonder what Mac's weapon would have been in return?
M60.Quote from: Highland on May 21, 2018, 05:02:45 AM
I don't think you can include the jokes either. The jokes are not just meant to be funny to the audience, in fact I'd say that's not even the primary goal of the jokes. It's to show not only the different type of soldier, but also the relationship between Hawkins and Billy. Then you get the pay off when Billy actually likes one.
It's called character building, it also makes us feel more sorry for Hawkins when he gets diced up.
There's also the tonal balance of the film. It's a big bad ass 80's action shooter, so it works and it kinda still works in movies like the expendables ( although they go to far with it IMO).
The movie starts as an action romp. When Hawkins dies pretty much any sense of humour is sapped out of the film in favor of a constant tension that ramps up across the final act.
The point is that the first Predator film did not make goofy comedy takes. It has some funny one liners and a couple jokes, but it stays well clear of falling into farce. It's all about injecting levity into a tense scenario.
Quote from: SiL on May 21, 2018, 04:08:36 AMThe minigun isn't really that funny. It's ludicrously over the top, but the general reaction is usually "f**k yeah!" rather than people getting torn out of the film splitting their sides with laughter.
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 21, 2018, 05:19:59 AMThe movie starts as an action romp. When Hawkins dies pretty much any sense of humour is sapped out of the film in favor of a constant tension that ramps up across the final act.
The point is that the first Predator film did not make goofy comedy takes. It has some funny one liners and a couple jokes, but it stays well clear of falling into farce. It's all about injecting levity into a tense scenario.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 21, 2018, 02:19:57 PMQuote from: SiL on May 21, 2018, 04:08:36 AMThe minigun isn't really that funny. It's ludicrously over the top, but the general reaction is usually "f**k yeah!" rather than people getting torn out of the film splitting their sides with laughter.
I saw Predator in a packed cinema just a while back, and the place roared with laughter whenever that thing was fired on-screen.
Quote from: Huggs on May 21, 2018, 02:26:54 PMPeople are strange.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 21, 2018, 02:19:57 PMQuote from: SiL on May 21, 2018, 04:08:36 AMThe minigun isn't really that funny. It's ludicrously over the top, but the general reaction is usually "f**k yeah!" rather than people getting torn out of the film splitting their sides with laughter.
I saw Predator in a packed cinema just a while back, and the place roared with laughter whenever that thing was fired on-screen.
Other big belly-laughs I can remember off the top of my head included Dutch and Dillon's "handshake", most of the shootout in the jungle camp, Dillon stripping off and joining in with the sweaty muscle tree-hauling and Dutch screaming into the jungle to get ol' Pred's attention.
Quote from: JungleHunter87 on May 21, 2018, 05:56:21 AM
I can't speak to if the Pentagon was thinking about developing a portable handheld M134 in the 80's. But, I'm pretty confident in saying that was not the reason for it's inclusion in the first film. However, I'm open to being corrected.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 21, 2018, 02:27:54 PMQuote from: Huggs on May 21, 2018, 02:26:54 PMPeople are strange.
Not really.
If you ask me, the minigun is no less comedy than the final act of Commando.
Quote from: Original Predator on May 21, 2018, 02:30:07 PMAgain watching those movies in the year 2018. Is a completely different circumstance of study and analysis.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 21, 2018, 02:32:19 PMQuote from: Original Predator on May 21, 2018, 02:30:07 PMAgain watching those movies in the year 2018. Is a completely different circumstance of study and analysis.
I honestly cannot accept that anyone ever thought Commando was a serious movie...
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 21, 2018, 02:32:19 PMQuote from: Original Predator on May 21, 2018, 02:30:07 PMAgain watching those movies in the year 2018. Is a completely different circumstance of study and analysis.
I honestly cannot accept that anyone ever thought Commando was a serious movie...
Quote from: happypred on May 21, 2018, 02:59:11 PM
When I watched Alien with my football team, we roared with laughter when Kane spazzed out and made funny sounds on the table...true story.
Quote from: ace3g on May 19, 2018, 02:13:10 AM
I'm sure the full trailer will show character pieces for each of the "Loonies".
https://twitter.com/JURASSICCERATO/status/997650453608316928
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 24, 2018, 02:06:56 PM
Are you based in the States? It was the exact same trailer in the UK.
Quote from: Still Collating... on May 26, 2018, 06:48:04 PM
The podcast for some reason doesn't load on my Samsung phone, but it's fine on my PC.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 01, 2018, 04:29:20 AMAnd dependent on effects shots that usually end up being finished last.
Here's what I would have done for the teaser.
Shots of the jungle. Maybe throw in a little of "The Chopper."
Holbrook on his mission. Intense. Scope shots.
Cut to kid at home, with box.
Holbrook searching through scope. Looking for his target. Sonic boom.
Kid slicing box with box cutter.
Ship crashing, Holbrook trying to evade.
Kid peels back flaps.
Holbrook moving through the wreck. Predator clicking sound.
Kid pulls out the mask.
THE PREDATOR.
Quote from: Highland on Jun 01, 2018, 10:03:15 AM
I wouldn't have put any ship crashing. It's too AVPR.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 01, 2018, 04:05:59 PMQuote from: Highland on Jun 01, 2018, 10:03:15 AM
I wouldn't have put any ship crashing. It's too AVPR.
Yes.
Why not just a simple landing? Predator comes, lands, exits from his ship and starts hunting.
Quote from: Actual Hybrid on May 31, 2018, 08:47:25 PM
I give teaser a D+.
Hell! The kids trick-or-treating is a 30 year old sound effect
that I recognize from Roller Coaster Tycoon!!!
Quote from: skull-splitter on Jun 01, 2018, 07:30:34 AM
And dependent on effects shots that usually end up being finished last.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jun 01, 2018, 04:05:59 PMQuote from: Highland on Jun 01, 2018, 10:03:15 AM
I wouldn't have put any ship crashing. It's too AVPR.
Yes.
Why not just a simple landing? Predator comes, lands, exits from his ship and starts hunting.
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Jun 06, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
I liked a few things with AVP... the idea/premise being one, just the ideas were not executed right... AVP was a movie that had potential but just failed. It left a bad taste in my mouth and this trailer, well moments in this trailer just remind me of the AVP movies... crashing ship for one. AVP aside, this is a poor trailer. Very disappointed... but still looking forward to this movie. I do have faith in Shane Black.
Quote from: Highland on Jun 07, 2018, 12:03:38 AMQuote from: Space_Dementia on Jun 06, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
I liked a few things with AVP... the idea/premise being one, just the ideas were not executed right... AVP was a movie that had potential but just failed. It left a bad taste in my mouth and this trailer, well moments in this trailer just remind me of the AVP movies... crashing ship for one. AVP aside, this is a poor trailer. Very disappointed... but still looking forward to this movie. I do have faith in Shane Black.
I agree, the tone was also not correct, the middle of the movie is like they are wandering about on the same set painted differently. The moving pyramid had tons of potential.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 07, 2018, 12:15:39 AMQuote from: Highland on Jun 07, 2018, 12:03:38 AMQuote from: Space_Dementia on Jun 06, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
I liked a few things with AVP... the idea/premise being one, just the ideas were not executed right... AVP was a movie that had potential but just failed. It left a bad taste in my mouth and this trailer, well moments in this trailer just remind me of the AVP movies... crashing ship for one. AVP aside, this is a poor trailer. Very disappointed... but still looking forward to this movie. I do have faith in Shane Black.
I agree, the tone was also not correct, the middle of the movie is like they are wandering about on the same set painted differently. The moving pyramid had tons of potential.
Eh, just use the same two sets a million times, it'll be fine!
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jun 07, 2018, 01:49:31 AMQuote from: OpenMaw on Jun 07, 2018, 12:15:39 AMQuote from: Highland on Jun 07, 2018, 12:03:38 AMQuote from: Space_Dementia on Jun 06, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
I liked a few things with AVP... the idea/premise being one, just the ideas were not executed right... AVP was a movie that had potential but just failed. It left a bad taste in my mouth and this trailer, well moments in this trailer just remind me of the AVP movies... crashing ship for one. AVP aside, this is a poor trailer. Very disappointed... but still looking forward to this movie. I do have faith in Shane Black.
I agree, the tone was also not correct, the middle of the movie is like they are wandering about on the same set painted differently. The moving pyramid had tons of potential.
Eh, just use the same two sets a million times, it'll be fine!
Don't forget to cut to computerized maps for absolutely no reason.
Quote from: Huggs on Jun 07, 2018, 01:55:54 AMQuote from: KiramidHead on Jun 07, 2018, 01:49:31 AMQuote from: OpenMaw on Jun 07, 2018, 12:15:39 AMQuote from: Highland on Jun 07, 2018, 12:03:38 AMQuote from: Space_Dementia on Jun 06, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
I liked a few things with AVP... the idea/premise being one, just the ideas were not executed right... AVP was a movie that had potential but just failed. It left a bad taste in my mouth and this trailer, well moments in this trailer just remind me of the AVP movies... crashing ship for one. AVP aside, this is a poor trailer. Very disappointed... but still looking forward to this movie. I do have faith in Shane Black.
I agree, the tone was also not correct, the middle of the movie is like they are wandering about on the same set painted differently. The moving pyramid had tons of potential.
Eh, just use the same two sets a million times, it'll be fine!
Don't forget to cut to computerized maps for absolutely no reason.
The pyramid was constantly shifting. We wouldn't want the audience to get lost in there. ;)
Quote from: Actual Hybrid on Jun 07, 2018, 08:39:01 PM
Sooo, I guess it's JW2 then?
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jun 07, 2018, 11:46:15 PMSounds about right. Too bad they ruined their only surprise this early. Haven't learned from Jurassic World's, Terminator Genesys or the BvS trailers (all of which pulles the same stunt and ruining the main surprise of all those films weeks ahead of release)
I'm assuming he's asking*/guessing/suggesting (if*) we're going to get a full trailer attached to Jurassic World 2.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 10, 2018, 01:00:32 PMDefinitely better than the first trailer. Definitely should have released this one first, or at least something similar with this amount of action rather than have a whole minute of one trailer focus on the kid. In terms of marketing, they really need to realize who their audience is, and for starters, I don't think too much interested in a kid in a Predator movie. I got nothing against a kid being in it, but why advertise him prominently.
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Quote from: germanator2 on Jun 09, 2018, 10:01:55 PM
I got nothing against a kid being in it, but why advertise him prominently.