By James A Moore
https://bnccatalist.ca/ViewTitle.aspx?id=11867718
I split that off, felix. The other thread wasn't actually for a prequel to The Predator. I wonder if Moore is also doing the movie novelization too then.
Nevermind, just saw the update to the other thread. lol :laugh:
Wonderful news. I love the novelizations of the movies. Often times they are better than the film itself. Tim Lebbon's Novelization of Skull Island was solid, as is Alien by Foster. There's nothing like a good summer power outage and breaking out the ol' oil lamp and Foster's Alien to make the evening. I look forward to reading what these guys have written for the predator.
I am big fan of novelizations as well. Have dozens of them in several cardboard boxes in my house.
Don't have Alan Foster's The Thing novelization. That's always been a huge regret for me.
Yes! Nice to get a new Predator novel and I was a fan of Moore's "Sea of Sorrows" so this pleases me. "If it Bleeds" was such a fun read but I look forward to a full novel of Predator awesomeness.
I also enjoyed Sea of Sorrows, so I am quite excited for this as well.
Anyone familiar with James' work?
He's billed as a horror writer, which could be major plus
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1785654268/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_tai_YvWyAb1ZXQVQ9
According to Amazon the prequel has been pulled forward a good few months.
Wow, February 13. Can't wait.
I'll try and confirm with Titan.
Feb? That's probably a mistake.
I'm thinking the same but I'm checking just in case.
Amazon still has the June release date. Probably just a mistake by the Amazon UK site.
Pre-order is up on Amazon US (https://www.amazon.com/Predator-Official-Movie-Novelization/dp/1785658050/ref=tmm_mmp_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=).
That's the novelization, RidgeTop.
They're checking about the release date thing btw guys.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 27, 2018, 12:07:47 PM
That's the novelization, RidgeTop.
My mistake, here's the link for the prequel novel for Amazon US (https://www.amazon.com/Predator-Hunters-Hunted-Official-Prequel/dp/1785654268/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1785654268&pd_rd_r=R21JXH38ACP6N4XDKZY6&pd_rd_w=s19nG&pd_rd_wg=1tJZ9&psc=1&refRID=R21JXH38ACP6N4XDKZY6).
Found the Cover.
https://bnccatalist.ca/ViewTitle.aspx?id=11867718
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/435972/9781785654268_tnmd.jpg)
No chance for a sneaky look at new artwork then. :P Thanks felix.
They'll probably change the artwork when it gets released in June.
Release Date shifted to July 10th.
So is this meant to be a prequel without any Predators, like Covenant Origins?
I can't imagine why, but it's really difficult for me to picture a Predator narrative without any Predators, whereas for some reason--time and time again--it's somehow an acceptable way to handle the Alien franchise.
You can have Aliens flavour just with Weyland Yutani, Colonial Marines, and Aliens-era technology.
With predator, it's harder
Quote from: Hudson on Feb 21, 2018, 09:41:29 PM
So is this meant to be a prequel without any Predators, like Covenant Origins?
It's silly we can't even say how silly that question is anymore. :laugh: I'm going to reach out to Jim again. Hopefully he can answer that.
Guys, guy! I can confirm it has a Predator in it!
Got mine Pre-ordered here in Canada. Looks like it will be out August 7 2018 ;D
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 23, 2018, 08:03:56 AMGuys, guy! I can confirm it has a Predator in it!
I figured with a title like "Hunters and Hunted" it would, but it's nice to have it confirmed.
You say that but you'd also assume a novel with the word Alien in it would have Aliens too. :P
Good point, well made.
What do you guys think it will be about? Will it explore the Predators
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hiding out in Area 52?
Release date delayed to July 31st.
That's unfortunate but as long as it still comes out before the film, I'm happy.
https://titanbooks.com/the-predator-hunters-and-hunted-official-movie-prequel-9076/
Amazon has a new synopsis for the book.
"For centuries Earth has been visited by warlike creatures that stalk mankind's finest warriors. Their goals unknown, these deadly hunters kill their prey and depart as invisibly as they arrived, leaving no trace other than a trail of bodies.
When Roger Elliott faced such a creature during the Vietnam War, he didn't expect to survive. Nor did he expect that, decades later, he would train the Reavers, a clandestine strike force attached to Project Stargazer. Their mission: to capture one of the creatures, thus proving its existence, disassembling its tech, and balancing the odds between the HUNTERS AND HUNTED."
Quote from: felix on Jun 11, 2018, 01:43:38 AM
Amazon has a new synopsis for the book.
"For centuries Earth has been visited by warlike creatures that stalk mankind's finest warriors. Their goals unknown, these deadly hunters kill their prey and depart as invisibly as they arrived, leaving no trace other than a trail of bodies.
When Roger Elliott faced such a creature during the Vietnam War, he didn't expect to survive. Nor did he expect that, decades later, he would train the Reavers, a clandestine strike force attached to Project Stargazer. Their mission: to capture one of the creatures, thus proving its existence, disassembling its tech, and balancing the odds between the HUNTERS AND HUNTED."
That actually doesn't sound too bad. I'm intrigued.
Yeah, that sounds pretty interesting! I'm quite keen to give this one a read.
I just love Predator stories (Yuatja not Hish though).
Hope Titan Books gives us another Omnibus (South China Sea and Turnabout would be nice).
Yeah, hopefully Titan will put out the DH Press novels for Predator. It'd be awesome if Turnabout and South China Sea were more readily available to the readership. They're fantastic novels that Predator fans need to read.
South China Sea just begs to be turned into a movie. An Exotic Island. A Killer Croc. A Viet General with his own private army.
That is a pretty interesting-sounding synopsis.
Sounds like a fun story. At least it has a Predator in it!
Wish they'd done their homework and called it Project Moon Dust or Project Blue Fly. There's real historical documentation they could have worked into how those operated.
Primarily for retrieving/analysing crashed Soviet and Chinese hardware from space, but their remit would obviously cross over into handling ET technology, should any be located
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/01/ufos-and-project-moon-dust/
Oh man that sounds great! Can't wait :)
End of next month, yeh?
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jun 11, 2018, 05:14:47 PM
Wish they'd done their homework and called it Project Moon Dust or Project Blue Fly. There's real historical documentation they could have worked into how those operated.
Primarily for retrieving/analysing crashed Soviet and Chinese hardware from space, but their remit would obviously cross over into handling ET technology, should any be located
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/01/ufos-and-project-moon-dust/
I was actually a little disappointed they didn't follow on with the OWLF organisation but that's a through-line for The Predator movie rather than just this book.
Read a preview.
https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=uidjDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=predator+hunters&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwin_aKZjZ3cAhXUbX0KHX9eAdQQ6AEINDAC#v=onepage&q=predator%20hunters&f=false
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Yuatja! And we get Pred POV as well.
Got my review copy this morning -
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiDqA0gW0AUlt9c.jpg:large)
That's awesome. Will you be able to post your review when ready or is there an embargo?
None mentioned to me so should be fine when I'm ready. Be next week some time in that case.
Really looking forward to it!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 14, 2018, 01:56:28 PM
None mentioned to me so should be fine when I'm ready. Be next week some time in that case.
Excellent. I'm looking forward to reading your thoughts.
Are you going to be doing a podcast regarding the latest The Predator trailer any time soon ? ;D
Did you just order it or was this an advance copy for AvP Galaxy? Will do some catch up with older novels first but will get this soon.
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Are you going to be doing a podcast regarding the latest The Predator trailer any time soon ? ;D
Next episode actually. :)
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 14, 2018, 04:05:31 PM
Did you just order it or was this an advance copy for AvP Galaxy? Will do some catch up with older novels first but will get this soon.
Advanced copy. Release is the end of the month.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 14, 2018, 11:12:26 AM
Got my review copy this morning -
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiDqA0gW0AUlt9c.jpg:large)
Perks of the job!!!
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Are you going to be doing a podcast regarding the latest The Predator trailer any time soon ? ;D
Next episode actually. :)
Awesome
Will get a proper review written up this week but I just finished it. In short, another solid Predator novel. Not my favourite but still really enjoyable.
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Some really enjoyable world-building and some character stuff I always like seeing played with (PTSD). It did sort of shift gears a bit towards the middle and we started to get randomers who felt like they should have been introduced well well before. It course corrects soon enough though.
The Predator was brutal. He took a f**king beating and he gave a f**king beating. I did have one fan/lore complaint with him though. Some pretty cool imagery. While I enjoyed the Reapers, would have enjoyed some more time with the movie characters, Keyes in particular.
All in all a good book. Should get us all in the mood for The Predator quite nicely.
Oooh,
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Keyes is in this? Consider me excited!
Hicks, where's your avatar from?
Quote from: happypred on Jul 17, 2018, 02:33:38 AM
Hicks, where's your avatar from?
Cover art for Predator: Hunters 2
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 16, 2018, 08:01:40 PM
Oooh, Spoiler
Keyes is in this? Consider me excited!
Very very briefly, unfortunately.
Any references to the AvP movies?
Nope. Nothing. Only really references P1 and 2.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 17, 2018, 01:20:01 PM
Nope. Nothing. Only really references P1 and 2.
Can't wait to read the review. Is there any specific mention of Dutch and Harrigan in the p1 and 2 references? Or is it merely combat tactics and biological information?
Not by name but it's inferred that both want nothing to do with Stargazer. Predator 2 does get mentioned fairly frequently, though.
Does the book end on a cliffhanger and flow directly into the movie/other book?
No loose threads or anything. Mostly just setting up the world and situation as we're going to find it.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 16, 2018, 07:10:28 PM
Will get a proper review written up this week but I just finished it. In short, another solid Predator novel. Not my favourite but still really enjoyable.
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Some really enjoyable world-building and some character stuff I always like seeing played with (PTSD). It did sort of shift gears a bit towards the middle and we started to get randomers who felt like they should have been introduced well well before. It course corrects soon enough though.
The Predator was brutal. He took a f**king beating and he gave a f**king beating. I did have one fan/lore complaint with him though. Some pretty cool imagery. While I enjoyed the Reapers, would have enjoyed some more time with the movie characters, Keyes in particular.
All in all a good book. Should get us all in the mood for The Predator quite nicely.
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World-building, as in the agencies within the human world? Are there any other alien species introduced or does it just stick with Predators? I always hope for some mention of Arcturians, especially since the Rage War novels...
The first part of the book is available on Google Books.
The Arcturians as they're described in the Rage War novels are beyond insipid.
The "Arcturians" should simply be a human colony with a high percentage of intersex people on a planet orbiting Arcturus.
Turning them into Asari doesn't fit the lonely universe Alien presents and I believe the actual intention of the line in Aliens is more a suggestion of a further parallel in James Cameron's Vietnam allegory; where treating another race as subhuman because they were different, was either not acknowledged as heinous or perhaps even encouraged by military superiors.
Not because they were literal Aliens, that seems so banal to infer that in expanded media.
Nah, I like to view them as another species altogether - a species that humans happened upon by chance that doesn't necessarily help or hurt their survival. I don't know what Asari is, so I can't speak to that. But I'd prefer a universe that has more than Aliens and Predators in it, though not necessarily other beings that will get involved in our troubles (to prevent it from getting too overloaded with beings a la Mass Effect or Halo. This is a horror genre.)
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 20, 2018, 05:11:19 PM
Nah, I like to view them as another species altogether - a species that humans happened upon by chance that doesn't necessarily help or hurt their survival. I don't know what Asari is, so I can't speak to that. But I'd prefer a universe that has more than Aliens and Predators in it, though not necessarily other beings that will get involved in our troubles (to prevent it from getting too overloaded with beings a la Mass Effect or Halo. This is a horror genre.)
Sorry but no- sentient life that doesn't want to kill us doesn't belong in Alien.
AWFUL choice to infer they are an Alien species.
It's as bad for the lore as giving the Predalien dreadlocks is as a design decision.
You want to dump AVP into a garbage pile lower than AVPR, that's how you do it- start cramming the universe full of human-likes.
Well, my post sorta said the exact opposite - to not cram it full of other alien life, but it'd be realistic to expect there to be other alien species out there in the universe. Especially since we've already been introduced to three, visually.
I like the Alien universe to be lonely and cold. I like to see humans as the only intelligent species around. Any other species should be shown as long dead and ancient. Having ththe predators is cool but still feels odd for the universe established in ALIEN.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 20, 2018, 06:01:16 PM
I like the Alien universe to be lonely and cold. I like to see humans as the only intelligent species around. Any other species should be shown as long dead and ancient. Having ththe predators is cool but still feels odd for the universe established in ALIEN.
Yes, I'd actually like to see the idea incorporated more in the Predator side of things (this is a Predator related thread.) I thought it was great seeing the other species in Predators - I can imagine that some of the creatures they brought to the planet were sapient/sentient to some degree.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 20, 2018, 06:01:16 PM
I like the Alien universe to be lonely and cold. I like to see humans as the only intelligent species around.
Any other species should be shown as long dead and ancient. Having the predators is cool but still feels odd for the universe established in ALIEN.
Indeed, the only way the Predator works in regards to AVP or being tonally consistent with ALIEN is as they are portrayed in Monolith's AVP, to me- insular, sparse, ancient, ritualistic, lost but never close to something you can understand.
Even if Rykov perceived Prince's hunt on him as a matter of vengeance we should never know.
The Predator should be the mysterious outlier, as contradictory in character as his technology and primitive culture is.
Quote from: The Old One on Jul 20, 2018, 06:32:23 PM
The Predator should be the mysterious outlier, as contradictory in character as his technology and primitive culture is.
One of the best parts of Briggs script is that he emphasizes their contradictory nature. "They look like bushmen decked out in sophisticated hunting equipment." And the like.
The whole Arcturian's are aliens thing is actually rather sickening when you understand Camereon's intent with the line. Like was stated previously he was drawing Vietnam Parallels there.
IE, this was basically like that one scene in Full Metal Jacket where Joker tells his buddy Rafterman "Half these gook whores are servicing the Vietcong, the other half have TB. So make sure you only f**k the ones that cough."
IE: The Arcturian colony is full of sub-human trash, and it doesn't matter if they're transexuals, dudes, or chicks. Maybe it's like space Chicago or something...
Yes my man.
Agreed. Like that more than them being alien species.
To be fair, the second Rage War book sort of gave them an out with the "Arcturus settlers who cut ties with humanity." Implies that even though there are E.T. Arcturians, there are also humans who live with them.
Nadda, this is one of the few things with this fictional universe I like that I won't move on, I'll die on this sword if need be. Arcturians shan't be E.T.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 20, 2018, 10:51:55 PM
To be fair, the second Rage War book sort of gave them an out with the "Arcturus settlers who cut ties with humanity." Implies that even though there are E.T. Arcturians, there are also humans who live with them.
That was my interpretation of the Arcturians as well, the information that the Rage War novels gave us (which wasn't really much to be honest.)
My review is now up :)
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/the-predator-hunters-and-hunted/
Hicks any mention of the upgrade, in the novel?
Just a small reference to other Predators tinkering with themselves.
Thanks for the review, will be getting this book soon.
I hope there is more connecting tissue between this and the movie novelization.
Not like Covenant and Covenant Origins which were written out of order with zero connections.
The book is out today! My interview with Jim will be going up tomorrow. :)
Off to the cheap books warehouse again this weekend, hoping they'll have a copy!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 31, 2018, 08:59:14 AM
The book is out today! My interview with Jim will be going up tomorrow. :)
My copy should be arriving today! I just need to find the time to read it (and a million other books - I haven't even finished Cold Forge yet because I'm juggling too many things in my spare time. It's the burden of having too many hobbies and being involved in too many fandoms. :P
Just finished the book. I really liked the predator as a character, and there were lots of chapters from his perspective and hints of lore to keep me happy! There were a couple bits that could prove intriguing for the movie...
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I'm curious as to why Keyes deliberately let the predator escape, and if, as speculated in the very end, the pred really did manage to send a transmission out before the gauntlet explosion.
My copy has arrived! Looking forward to sitting down with it :)
Quote from: yautjapet on Aug 01, 2018, 12:27:30 AM
Just finished the book. I really liked the predator as a character, and there were lots of chapters from his perspective and hints of lore to keep me happy! There were a couple bits that could prove intriguing for the movie...
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I'm curious as to why Keyes deliberately let the predator escape, and if, as speculated in the very end, the pred really did manage to send a transmission out before the gauntlet explosion.
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Was it meant to be Keyes? I thought it was one of Traeger's random allies.
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Aug 01, 2018, 02:32:46 AM
My copy has arrived! Looking forward to sitting down with it :)
Enjoy.
I've decided to wait until Friday to release the poddy. Give people a chance to read through the book.
http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/exclusive-james-a-moore-on-his-vicious-new-the-predator-prequel-novel-hunters-and-hunted
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 01, 2018, 07:51:29 AM
Quote from: yautjapet on Aug 01, 2018, 12:27:30 AM
Just finished the book. I really liked the predator as a character, and there were lots of chapters from his perspective and hints of lore to keep me happy! There were a couple bits that could prove intriguing for the movie...
Spoiler
I'm curious as to why Keyes deliberately let the predator escape, and if, as speculated in the very end, the pred really did manage to send a transmission out before the gauntlet explosion.
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Was it meant to be Keyes? I thought it was one of Traeger's random allies.
Oh yes, I went back to check and you're right:
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Keyes examines the predator earlier, and when the man comes in to let the pred escape, the pred think that he hasn't seen this human before. I think I just misread because the man was described as pale and blonde and I automatically thought of Keyes!
Got mine in, enjoying it so far
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/08/03/interview-with-james-a-moore-author-of-the-predator-hunters-and-hunted-avpgalaxy-podcast-70/
Interview with Jim is up now.
Spoils?
Minor.
Just finished it and James Moore penned a brutal Predator story! Wow I'm sooo excited for the film to release now!
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the alligator fight was epic! I noticed there was mention of genetic mutations among Yautja which I'm guessing has something to do with the upcoming film. Also liked that we got two separate accounts of Predator encounters with Elliot's flashback in Vietnam. That makes at least 3 Predator encounters in Nam (Elliot's team, Bloody Sands of Time and the short "Recon" from "If It Bleeds) I cant help but wonder if it's the same Predator.
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I'm about half way through this novel. It's definitely getting me pumped for the film. I'm loving how he writes from the predators perspective. I'm really hoping Edward James Almos makes it into the film. Really loving his character as well as Sterling K Brown's Traeger
Enjoyed the book immensely. Some good characters and good world-building going on.
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Still not sure about why the Predator was released intentionally though. I don't see how that would aid Traeger in any way as it didn't feature in his already crafted plan to take over from Woodhurst. I assumed it was done intentionally to so Stargazer could locate the Predator's ship by following the tracker?
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Aug 04, 2018, 07:01:31 PM
Enjoyed the book immensely. Some good characters and good world-building going on.
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Still not sure about why the Predator was released intentionally though. I don't see how that would aid Traeger in any way as it didn't feature in his already crafted plan to take over from Woodhurst. I assumed it was done intentionally to so Stargazer could locate the Predator's ship by following the tracker?
that was my assumption almost finished now. Really loved they went the Yautja route.
Ordered myself a copy of this and it's on its way, so should get around to reading it in the next couple of weeks.
I loved the book - could not put it down. It felt truly like one of the best Predator experiences and yes - the scene with the alligator was epic - it was one of the most enjoyable and unique combat scenarios that i've ever read - the intro into it and the pacing of it was just pure brilliance.
I really hope that James gets to write more Predator stuff and also as he hints a further foray into Aliens territory.
I feel that with the recent news about Edward James Olmos's cut from the main film that he would be playing Woodhurst - i think that is a real shame because i think he would have been great on screen. I think Sterling K Brown is going to be perfect as Traeger - slick, deceitful and very tricky.
Overall, a fantastic book and one that really adds to the anticipation of the movie and also Golden's novelisation.
This sounds almost as good as South China Sea
It's not that good. But an enjoyable read.
Haven't read south china sea yet. Still on the fence about that one. The predator novel I read where they were referred to as hish scarred me as far as being optimistic towards authors I've never heard of writing about predator. I'm glad I took a chance with this one. It's fantastic. Loved the tactics used by the predator on the fairground action just vivid!
What's the deal with this whole "Hish" thing?
South China Sea is largely considered the best Predator novel. I haven't read it because its out of print and it costs a lot to buy a copy. :'(
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 07, 2018, 09:56:55 PM
South China Sea is largely considered the best Predator novel. I haven't read it because its out of print and it costs a lot to buy a copy. :'(
If there's any justice, an omnibus is inevitable.
Just listened to the podcast. Great interview Hicks!
I'm sincerely hoping for the DH Press Predator novels to get Titan's omnibus treatment as it's the only EU lit that I haven't read.
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 08, 2018, 01:59:42 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 07, 2018, 09:56:55 PM
South China Sea is largely considered the best Predator novel. I haven't read it because its out of print and it costs a lot to buy a copy. :'(
If there's any justice, an omnibus is inevitable.
Same here. I would love another Predator Omnibus.
I saw the Predator omnibus in a book shop the other day; sadly, there was a conspicuous absence of "Volume One" or anything on the cover, unlike the first Alien one, which makes me wonder if they'll be moving on to the DH Press books.
Finished this last night. I'm now hoping that the movie lives up to it, because if this was filmed it would be awesome.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Aug 09, 2018, 03:20:28 PM
I saw the Predator omnibus in a book shop the other day; sadly, there was a conspicuous absence of "Volume One" or anything on the cover, unlike the first Alien one, which makes me wonder if they'll be moving on to the DH Press books.
It's official title is literally "The Complete Predator Omnibus", despite it being, you know, incomplete. :P
Well...it's a complete collection of the old Bantam/Millennium novels.
Sure, but I don't think the description on the cover clarifies that. :P
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Aug 09, 2018, 01:48:12 AM
Just listened to the podcast. Great interview Hicks!
I'm sincerely hoping for the DH Press Predator novels to get Titan's omnibus treatment as it's the only EU lit that I haven't read.
Same here. I have heard of a lot of praise for "South China Sea" but seems that "Forever Midnight" gets a lot of flack for meddling with the Yautja culture (and naming) established in the AvP novels.
They're not the Yautja. The Hish are a completely different interpretation of the Yautja as the author had not been asked to include the Yautja nor did he know about them.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 16, 2018, 08:39:38 AM
They're not the Yautja. The Hish are a completely different interpretation of the Yautja as the author had not been asked to include the Yautja nor did he know about them.
So are they basically like Super Predators, an offshoot of the Yautja? Or maybe everyone should just forget this book and move on.
It's a fun little distraction from the past that occasionally gets referenced. I still stand by Flesh and Blood, though. (that has a much more toned down Hish in)
Just finished this and found it one of the most enjoyable Predator novels I've read.
The Predator himself was absolutely brutal, every scene featuring it was a proper treat. The Reaper characters were mostly well established, too.
Only slight gripe probably was the author's frequent use of the word "hell" as an exclamation in sentences from most of the characters, which feels as if it's one of the author's own particular well used expressions that has seeped into the writing, but otherwise excellent and a real appetite whetter for the film.
Loved the fair ground sequence and that he used a disc instead of that shuriken nonsense. I could understand it being used against xenos but I absolutely loathe the fact they've never brought the predator 2 disc back
Not sure if it's been posted before, but here is a new review of the movie tie in novel.
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/275741/what-we-learned-from-the-predator-hunters-and-hunted-prequel-novel (http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/275741/what-we-learned-from-the-predator-hunters-and-hunted-prequel-novel)
Some interesting write up and comparison with the franchise.
I'm re-reading this again in prep for a podcast and I'm still enjoying it a second time around.
Quote from: gabgrave on Aug 18, 2018, 09:56:24 AM
Not sure if it's been posted before, but here is a new review of the movie tie in novel.
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/275741/what-we-learned-from-the-predator-hunters-and-hunted-prequel-novel (http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-predator/275741/what-we-learned-from-the-predator-hunters-and-hunted-prequel-novel)
Some interesting write up and comparison with the franchise.
Thanks for sharing. A reminder that I
really need to buy and read this before the movie comes out :laugh:
Just finished this! I loath the character build up of the reapers, as well as traeger and woodhurst. Certainly one for the books! Pun intended ;D
Loath or love?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 25, 2018, 06:07:12 PM
Loath or love?
Should've been love. Got my words mixed up again....
I wonder if the Edward James Olmos character that was cut from the movie is in this book. Maybe General Elliot?
He is. It's General Woodhurst.
Really enjoying this book. Another page turner like Cold Forge.
It states there's been no contact with Predators since P2, right? Not sure I like that very much.
Not so much. It's more a case of there's been nothing with proper solid evidence since P2.
Almost done with this. Are any other characters from this going to appear in the movie apart from Keyes and Traeger (and the cut Woodhurst)?
Not as far as we know.
Just finished it. I give it a 1/5 overall.
Our podcast on the book is now up: https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2018/09/05/the-predator-hunters-and-hunted-avp-galaxy-podcast-73/ Enjoy!
great podcast guys as always, thanks!
agree with most points-loved the novel! gotta say, those awsome fight chapters never dragged to me :0) if anything couldnt stop biting my fingernails throughout!
ditto for the neat P2 continuity. Always wondered what ever happened to the trail of tech the pred in P2 left behind.
Kind of makes him look quite incompetent when you stop to think about it.
Let's see: He left behind:
spear tip (colombian penthouse). spear (rooftop aircon box). mask, shoulder cannon (abattoir). gauntlet,
breather (alley, after falling from rooftop). medicomp (gran's bathroom).
(man, it was probably glad it died by the hands of harrigan, as he'd been a laughing stock in the pred homeworld :0)...!
Was the disc left on the ship though? Harrigan only took the pistol?
Pretty sure Harrigan did not take the disc.
Finished the book but liked the first half more than the second.
The fight scenes were the meat of the book, and interesting in a sense that you knew where each bullet hit and which exact injuries anyone had.
Also, the drug house and fairground scenes were really cool to picture in your head.
A prequel novel that actually comes out before the movie? The shock!! The amazement!! 😮
I'm about a fourth of the way in, had been waiting until after seeing the film to dig into it.
It's really good so far!
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Sep 15, 2018, 08:34:40 PM
I'm about a fourth of the way in, had been waiting until after seeing the film to dig into it.
It's really good so far!
I read it upon release and was very happy with it. I hoped that with the prequel novel being so good, that the movie would be. Not managed to see it, yet, so the jury is out on that so far.
I'm kind of curious if the bio helmet we see in the display case next to jungle hunters belongs to the predator in this novel.
Does this book have some yautja PoV?
Quote from: happypred on Sep 18, 2018, 11:15:59 PM
Does this book have some yautja PoV?
It has a ton, and it's very enjoyable!
Quote from: Dannyboy on Sep 18, 2018, 01:16:52 AM
I'm kind of curious if the bio helmet we see in the display case next to jungle hunters belongs to the predator in this novel.
I wondered where that mask came from and I like this explanation.
Quote from: happypred on Sep 18, 2018, 11:15:59 PM
Does this book have some yautja PoV?
Plenty, just posted about it in the novelization thread lol. I think it's a book well worth picking up, just for those POV scenes alone. Was so interesting getting more perspective on their "view" of humanity.
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Quote from: happypred on Sep 18, 2018, 11:15:59 PM
Does this book have some yautja PoV?
It has a ton, and it's very enjoyable!
Quote from: Dannyboy on Sep 18, 2018, 01:16:52 AM
I'm kind of curious if the bio helmet we see in the display case next to jungle hunters belongs to the predator in this novel.
I wondered where that mask came from and I like this explanation.
About the only logical explanation I can think of. Although traeger only indicates that there were 2 known visits. Then again we see lex's spear. Hell if I know 🤷♂️
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Quote from: happypred on Sep 18, 2018, 11:15:59 PM
Does this book have some yautja PoV?
Plenty, just posted about it in the novelization thread lol. I think it's a book well worth picking up, just for those POV scenes alone. Was so interesting getting more perspective on their "view" of humanity.
If I remember right, the novelization for the original movie has some Predator POV stuff. I know the Predator2 novelization does.
Quote from: Dannyboy on Sep 19, 2018, 01:50:14 AM
Quote from: yautjapet on Sep 18, 2018, 11:59:08 PM
Quote from: happypred on Sep 18, 2018, 11:15:59 PM
Does this book have some yautja PoV?
It has a ton, and it's very enjoyable!
Quote from: Dannyboy on Sep 18, 2018, 01:16:52 AM
I'm kind of curious if the bio helmet we see in the display case next to jungle hunters belongs to the predator in this novel.
I wondered where that mask came from and I like this explanation.
About the only logical explanation I can think of. Although traeger only indicates that there were 2 known visits. Then again we see lex's spear. Hell if I know 🤷♂️
Traeger only calls out those two specifically, but he never indicates they're the only two.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 19, 2018, 03:09:57 AM
Quote from: Wysps on Sep 19, 2018, 01:49:51 AM
Quote from: happypred on Sep 18, 2018, 11:15:59 PM
Does this book have some yautja PoV?
Plenty, just posted about it in the novelization thread lol. I think it's a book well worth picking up, just for those POV scenes alone. Was so interesting getting more perspective on their "view" of humanity.
If I remember right, the novelization for the original movie has some Predator POV stuff. I know the Predator2 novelization does.
Quote from: Dannyboy on Sep 19, 2018, 01:50:14 AM
Quote from: yautjapet on Sep 18, 2018, 11:59:08 PM
Quote from: happypred on Sep 18, 2018, 11:15:59 PM
Does this book have some yautja PoV?
It has a ton, and it's very enjoyable!
Quote from: Dannyboy on Sep 18, 2018, 01:16:52 AM
I'm kind of curious if the bio helmet we see in the display case next to jungle hunters belongs to the predator in this novel.
I wondered where that mask came from and I like this explanation.
About the only logical explanation I can think of. Although traeger only indicates that there were 2 known visits. Then again we see lex's spear. Hell if I know 🤷♂️
Traeger only calls out those two specifically, but he never indicates they're the only two.
you know what I mean
Quote from: happypred on Aug 07, 2018, 04:50:23 AM
This sounds almost as good as South China Sea
It's better than South China Sea, imo. More characterization of the predator's thought process and motivations.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 27, 2018, 10:46:08 AM
My review is now up :)
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/the-predator-hunters-and-hunted/
Great review btw, I agree 100%.
Regarding the cloak..
Spoiler
.I had simply assumed they upgraded technology at that point, especially with the focus on evolving and the forthcoming "Upgrade" as well.
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 01, 2018, 07:51:29 AM
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Just finished the book. I really liked the predator as a character, and there were lots of chapters from his perspective and hints of lore to keep me happy! There were a couple bits that could prove intriguing for the movie...
Spoiler
I'm curious as to why Keyes deliberately let the predator escape, and if, as speculated in the very end, the pred really did manage to send a transmission out before the gauntlet explosion.
Spoiler
Was it meant to be Keyes? I thought it was one of Traeger's random allies.
Oh yes, I went back to check and you're right: Spoiler
Keyes examines the predator earlier, and when the man comes in to let the pred escape, the pred think that he hasn't seen this human before. I think I just misread because the man was described as pale and blonde and I automatically thought of Keyes!
Spoiler
I've read the book 3 times now and this point still has me turned around. In the film, Keyes tells Bracket not to let the predator get away. However, in the predator novelization, Keyes is kind of an unhinged / wacky scientist that I could see letting the predator escape. Fun conjecture, regardless.
I'm actually reading right now...I think it's just as good as South China Sea, with more detailed characterisation of the Yautja.
Pleasantly surprised by this
I really liked the prequel novel, it was fun to watch, and only the last quarter of the ending fight felt a bit too long.
All in all, it was interesting from either sides. It gave a glimpse of the predator culture / ideology (based on this book I thought the whole dna stuff could work, even if it was mentioned in only half of a sentence), but nothing detailed. There were some great parts, my only question was why they had to use the word yautja. But it's just a minor issue. The cloaking was fine, I'd say in the last fight. Pred tech evolves too.
The whole Stargazer line, the Reapers and the politics behind it was awesome and exciting. Trager's character seemed really good and interesting, but Pappy gave most food for thought.
The whole build-up was great. And also connectible with earlier but later movies, literature too. If you have read Hunters 2 already, you know what I mean. Stargazer can be a really good addition to the pred universe, I hope we'll see them around.
Is it possible to read this whilst ignoring the film then?
Yeah, the novel can almost work as a stand-alone piece as most of the plot threads are more or less resolved by the end of the book.
I see. Thank you.
Having now seen the film, I now kinda wish they'd used the prequel novel instead, and used the movie as the tie in.
I definitely prefer the prequel over the finished film.
That's a sad revelation.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 24, 2018, 09:21:27 AM
I definitely prefer the prequel over the finished film.
I've been thinking a lot about this a lot and feel it would have made a better film as well. While it would not deviate much from the original 1987 film, it would have been a fantastic sequel. The following elements would have been fascinating to explore:
- The drug bust scene with the predator causing chaos would be a great dynamic to see onscreen
- The biker and carnival battles are downright terrifying
- Flashback to Pappy's Vietnam battle
- Keyes or other staff releasing the predator from confinement leading to a more interesting breakout scene
- Explore the dynamic of the Reapers ala the 1987 original
Heck even keep the global warming angle where the predators are doing more scouting to see if Earth would be a suitable new home, I really wouldn't care as it would mean more encounters
Quote from: The Old One on Sep 23, 2018, 04:14:40 PM
Is it possible to read this whilst ignoring the film then?
Not only that but the prequel is almost completely unrelated to the film...I'm not even sure why they called it a prequel...maybe because Traeger was in the cast?
It's obvious that, were it a true prequel, the events of the film would be much different (e.g., 2 fricken predator escapes...are you kidding me?)
Quote from: The Old One on Sep 23, 2018, 04:14:40 PM
Is it possible to read this whilst ignoring the film then?
Absolutely. To be frank, after watching the movie, felt like two totally different universe of the franchise.
New review.
https://movienooz.com/reviewz/review-the-predator-hunters-and-hunted-official-movie-prequel/