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Poll
Question: How much money you think AvP-R will make at the US box office from what you have seen so far from the trailers?
Option 1: 15million votes: 6
Option 2: 25million votes: 6
Option 3: 50million votes: 20
Option 4: 75million votes: 19
Option 5: over 100million votes: 14
Title: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Sep 07, 2007, 11:05:43 PM
How money do you think Aliens vs Predator Requiem will make at the box office?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Daweism on Sep 07, 2007, 11:22:58 PM
at least $120 million
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Don Dorris on Sep 07, 2007, 11:26:10 PM
There are too many variables to accurately work it out for me. 120 million could be optimistic yet.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Daweism on Sep 07, 2007, 11:29:11 PM
Quote from: Lovely Man on Sep 07, 2007, 11:26:10 PM
There are too many variables to accurately work it out for me. 120 million could be optimistic yet.

At first it won't do great, but it will be like Batman Begins, slow start, but word of mout due to good movie will drive the masses to see it.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 07, 2007, 11:47:52 PM
i say 200mil...

and of course if this somehow starts a controversy with the church all the satanists will see it...and hell theres a lot of them :P
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Sep 07, 2007, 11:48:40 PM
how much s-man3 make? cause that is how much I think.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 07, 2007, 11:52:45 PM
Quote from: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Sep 07, 2007, 11:48:40 PM
how much s-man3 make? cause that is how much I think.

over 500 mil
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Sep 07, 2007, 11:55:01 PM
Quote from: pred_alien on Sep 07, 2007, 11:52:45 PM
Quote from: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Sep 07, 2007, 11:48:40 PM
how much s-man3 make? cause that is how much I think.

over 500 mil
u serious? :o I thought it was like $300 mill.! okay then $300 mill. 8)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pmaz11 on Sep 07, 2007, 11:56:32 PM
Maybe 100million because AVP was the first movie so there was more hype & anticipation and it only made 80million and it was PG-13 too.

But I don't really know, who does? we just have to wait for the movie to come out.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 07, 2007, 11:57:00 PM
Quote from: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Sep 07, 2007, 11:55:01 PM
Quote from: pred_alien on Sep 07, 2007, 11:52:45 PM
Quote from: SPEC. AGENT KEYES on Sep 07, 2007, 11:48:40 PM
how much s-man3 make? cause that is how much I think.

over 500 mil
u serious? :o I thought it was like $300 mill.! okay then $300 mill. 8)

TOTAL LIFETIME GROSSES
Domestic:  $336,530,303    37.8%
+ Foreign:  $553,712,881    62.2%

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= Worldwide:  $890,243,184  

but spider-man 3 was 2 hours and 20 minutes..with AVP-R being less than  2 hours itll get more screenings...even if it is in less theaters
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 07, 2007, 11:57:38 PM
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Sep 07, 2007, 11:56:32 PM
Maybe 100million because AVP was the first movie so there was more hype & anticipation and it only made 80million and it was PG-13 too.

But I don't really know, who does? we just have to wait for the movie to come out.

it only made 80 mil in the US but made 171mil world wide
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: War Wager on Sep 08, 2007, 12:04:52 AM
It'll make less than what AvP did anyway...
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 12:15:50 AM
Quote from: War Wager on Sep 08, 2007, 12:04:52 AM
It'll make less than what AvP did anyway...

why do you say this??? if this is a overall good movie and gets semi good reviews from critics and fans alike that will draw more people to see it...even fans new to the franchises...and also people that are tired of all the happy fun loving christmas movies that would like to see something besides that AVP-R is their choice
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pmaz11 on Sep 08, 2007, 12:24:54 AM
Quote from: pred_alien on Sep 07, 2007, 11:57:38 PM
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Sep 07, 2007, 11:56:32 PM
Maybe 100million because AVP was the first movie so there was more hype & anticipation and it only made 80million and it was PG-13 too.

But I don't really know, who does? we just have to wait for the movie to come out.

it only made 80 mil in the US but made 171mil world wide

oh yeh thats true....well if you do worldwide then AVP-R might make around the same or less....unless the fans have faith in this movie and dont care about AVP and go see; then will it make more then AVP maybe.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Docta Jekyll on Sep 08, 2007, 01:23:36 AM
I don't estimate domestic, and never go by just domestic, because the worldwide gross is the total amount a film made at the box office

I think this might make less then AVP, for different reasons, this will be the better film, it just seems like it won't make as much

but it didn't cost as much to make, so it seems it will all balance out

but I think at least 100 million worldwide, other then the US release, the film seems to be getting un-contested release dates in other countries, so it could do good worldwide, even if it doesnt do great domestically.

100 million at least, and that would make this film be successful, seein as it was made for less then 45 million, Fox will get their money spent back to them when this hits around 80 million or so worldwide

and it could easily make more then that worldwide, it just depends on how it all turns out.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Sep 08, 2007, 02:42:57 AM
I think the movie will make $384,330,479 Worldwide.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 02:50:23 AM
You guys are dreaming if you think it will make 300 million worldwide. The first, even when rated pg-13, made 178 million worldwide. This one is rated R and coming off of a mediocre movie. It will make less, but that is ok because it has a smaller budget.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Sep 08, 2007, 02:53:40 AM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 02:50:23 AM
You guys are dreaming if you think it will make 300 million worldwide. The first, even when rated pg-13, made 178 million worldwide. This one is rated R and coming off of a mediocre movie. It will make less, but that is ok because it has a smaller budget.

I'm pretty sure this movie will make a lot of money because it comesout on X-mass (That the time when most people go to the movies) and AVP has a big fanbase.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Sep 08, 2007, 03:14:14 AM
Everyone was pissing themselves when they heard this was coming out in December, and if the Alien/ Predator franchises had loads of fans rooting for an AVP pre-Anderson there aren't as many tolerant ones left after the fact.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 04:00:20 AM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 02:50:23 AM
You guys are dreaming if you think it will make 300 million worldwide. The first, even when rated pg-13, made 178 million worldwide. This one is rated R and coming off of a mediocre movie. It will make less, but that is ok because it has a smaller budget.
but remember AVP got bad reviews and fans didnt like it...if fans like this and it gets reviews it has a chance to make 300 mil worldwide
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Docta Jekyll on Sep 08, 2007, 04:14:56 AM
300 million worldwide is so pushing it, honestly, not trying to hate, I want this movie to be successful, but I would be amazed if it hit 200 million worldwide
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 04:17:46 AM
Quote from: Docta Jekyll on Sep 08, 2007, 04:14:56 AM
300 million worldwide is so pushing it, honestly, not trying to hate, I want this movie to be successful, but I would be amazed if it hit 200 million worldwide

in a way i want it to get 300 mil...because then FOX would make AVP3, but then again this might turn into halloween or friday the 13th with all those goddamned sequels
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Sep 08, 2007, 04:21:30 AM
Let wailt and find out what happens when AVPR comes out  ;).
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Docta Jekyll on Sep 08, 2007, 04:45:43 AM
Don't get me wrong, this making 300 million would rock, so much I can't describe, but I'm not going to get my hopes up

and if AVP-R makes even 200 million worldwide, or even matches AVP's worldwide gross, on a budget that seems considerably less then that of AVP, then you can bet you'll be getting AVP 3, Fox may even have enough faith to give us Predator 3, or Alien 5, although I would like to see how they handle Alien 5, continueing off of A:R, a generally dislikes entry in the series, which in turn was a continuation off of Alien 3, a film with mixed negative and positive views, so who knows.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Anonymous684 on Sep 08, 2007, 08:58:15 AM
My guess is anywhere from 110mil to 140mil
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Craig on Sep 08, 2007, 11:56:58 AM
9 mill opening weekend. 90 mill worldwide.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: YutaniDitch on Sep 08, 2007, 02:45:37 PM
My guess is it will make less than AVP...

For two reasons:

NO PG-13 - meaning , less broadeness in audiences will be seeing the movie

NO hype following AVP - which means that the target audience will be, mostly, fans...

Only fans will see it and that won't make the movie earn that much money, unless they all go see it three of four times...and the movie turns out to be exquisite, which will be asking too much from a crossover movie...

This movie's premise alone may actually keep many people away from seeing it...

Hell, I am a long Alien and Predator fan, and even I maintain a lot of reservations still...

This smalltown-setting is really throwing me off the movie... After the two recent leaked photos, my reservations regarding how the Alien would look in a human environment (e.g. top of a car) were absolutely correct and just got worse...

So, I think this movie MAY (big question mark on that) reach the AVP figures, but that is a quite optimistic scenario... ;)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 02:50:58 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Sep 08, 2007, 02:45:37 PM
My guess is it will make less than AVP...



NO hype following AVP - which means that the target audience will be, mostly, fans...

this movie has no hype because they only released the GB trailer with one movie..and its not doing all too good in the BO...once they start putting on internet adds and TV spots itll build some hype...and according to imdb its starometer thingy rose 405%...thats alot
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: vortep on Sep 08, 2007, 02:59:38 PM
Well the first didn't take mutch but this is diferent stuff

.............................over 300,000,000 $
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Sep 08, 2007, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Sep 08, 2007, 02:45:37 PM
My guess is it will make less than AVP...

For two reasons:

NO PG-13 - meaning , less broadeness in audiences will be seeing the movie


Just because it rated R that dons't mean it not going to make a lot of money. Rated R movies like 300,The Matrix Reloaded and Terminator 2: Judgment Day have made tons of movie at the box office.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: fluxcap on Sep 08, 2007, 04:20:19 PM
Domestically for me (North America), I'm thinking no more than 30 mill. Perhaps less.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Anonymous684 on Sep 08, 2007, 04:21:33 PM
Quote from: fluxcap on Sep 08, 2007, 04:20:19 PM
Domestically for me (North America), I'm thinking no more than 30 mill. Perhaps less.

Thats Harsh!
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Danger Close on Sep 08, 2007, 04:27:09 PM
That's really harsh. The movie will make good dough. I'm not worried, there has be a lot of R rated movies that have done well recently, but really, if the movie is good it will do well at the Box office. I just hope the Strause's have taken the time to make good human characters. That will be what will bring in the general public.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: fluxcap on Sep 08, 2007, 04:31:59 PM
I'd like the movie to do well, hopefully I'm wrong in my prediction, but I think the film won't come close to the first AVP's earnings domestically at least. You can bet Fox will get a return on their investment through worldwide earnings and the dvd.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Danger Close on Sep 08, 2007, 04:34:02 PM
Why do you think 30? That seems really low? I agree that there is a good chance it will not equal AVP, with the rating and all, but 30 seems really low.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Anonymous684 on Sep 08, 2007, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: Danger Close on Sep 08, 2007, 04:34:02 PM
Why do you think 30? That seems really low? I agree that there is a good chance it will not equal AVP, with the rating and all, but 30 seems really low.

30mil is way way to low. Thats like how much Leprechuan made lol.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Danger Close on Sep 08, 2007, 04:37:32 PM
At least he had his pot of gold to fall back on?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Horhey on Sep 08, 2007, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: pred_alien on Sep 07, 2007, 11:47:52 PM
i say 200mil...

and of course if this somehow starts a controversy with the church all the satanists will see it...and hell theres a lot of them :P

Controversy always = $$$

The movie is doomed to get negative reviews from the critics, but I think everyone else will dig it. The trailer will do the job. It'll pull atleast 200 million.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: echobbase79 on Sep 08, 2007, 04:38:14 PM
200 MILLION WORLD WIDE.

I believe a lot of critics will like this too.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: fluxcap on Sep 08, 2007, 04:40:32 PM
Pretty much everyone was burned by AVP. I'm pretty sure most general movie audiences will avoid it because of the first film. Some people who I work with who have seen the trailer (and are not Alien/Predator die-hards) say the film looks silly/corny because of the setting and scenario. If that opionion is shared by even a portion of general audiences, ouch($).

Quote from: Danger Close on Sep 08, 2007, 04:37:32 PM
At least he had his pot of gold to fall back on?
And like half a dozen direct to dvd sequels ;D
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Horhey on Sep 08, 2007, 04:44:49 PM
Quote from: fluxcap on Sep 08, 2007, 04:40:32 PM
Pretty much everyone was burned by AVP. I'm pretty sure most general movie audiences will avoid it because of the first film. Some people who I work with who have seen the trailer (and are not Alien/Predator die-hards) say the film looks silly/corny because of the setting and scenario. If that opionion is shared by even a portion of general audiences, ouch($).

Quote from: Danger Close on Sep 08, 2007, 04:37:32 PM
At least he had his pot of gold to fall back on?
And like half a dozen direct to dvd sequels ;D

So you think they might be scoffing at it becouse they're assuming it'll be cheese extreme like the first movie?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: gameoverman on Sep 08, 2007, 04:45:53 PM
QuotePretty much everyone was burned by AVP. I'm pretty sure most general movie audiences will avoid it because of the first film. Some people who I work with who have seen the trailer (and are not Alien/Predator die-hards) say the film looks silly/corny because of the setting and scenario. If that opionion is shared by even a portion of general audiences, ouch($).


Yeah I wouldn't buy shares in 20th Century Fox just yet but it looks like they're getting the marketing right.  :P
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Danger Close on Sep 08, 2007, 04:50:38 PM
It's a hard call to make. I think getting the trailer attached to a few good films in the month before release will be all the difference. Freddy vs Jason was corney and could have influenced people on AVP. The concept of Aliens and Predator's fighting it's self is pretty cheezy to the general public, and they went and saw the first one. So if people like the trailer.. Who knows?

I really think people will forget the first one IF they are impressed by the trailer. and it is the 7th searched trailer on the web, so.....
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Horhey on Sep 08, 2007, 04:53:58 PM
If AVP 2 isnt successful (which means we wont get a 3rd movie) its becouse Paul Anderson left a bad taste in people's mouths. Theres got to be a way to get his ass kicked out of Hollywood for good.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: predalien213 on Sep 08, 2007, 04:57:58 PM
i say mabye 170 million plus
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: echobbase79 on Sep 08, 2007, 04:58:37 PM
No matter how much I hate what PA did to AvP I won't hold him accountable for Requiem being a bad movie. That's not really being fair. He had nothing to do with this and if the movie is a shit pile then it's the makers of this film's fault not PA.

Anyway, this movie isn't going to be a shit pile. So I'm not worrying about it.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Danger Close on Sep 08, 2007, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Sep 08, 2007, 04:58:37 PM
No matter how much I hate what PA did to AvP I won't hold him accountable for Requiem being a bad movie. That's not really being fair. He had nothing to do with this and if the movie is a shit pile then it's the makers of this film's fault not PA.

Anyway, this movie isn't going to be a shit pile. So I'm not worrying about it.

If AVP-R does poorly at the Box office, it will be because it is a shitty movie, are poor marketing. I don't believe AVP will have a lot to do with it.

Quote from: predalien213 on Sep 08, 2007, 04:57:58 PM
i say mabye 170 million plus

Keep dreaming!


Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:03:24 PM
I agree with Fluxcap. Lets be realistic here. This film will not be 300 or Matrix. Those are good films! The marketing for 300 was perfect. I can't say the same for AVP-R. 300 embraced the Myspace and Youtube generation and advertised like crazy and it raked in over 70 million it's opening weekend. Fox needs to do the same, but seeing as how they don't even like having their trailer on Youtube, makes me think they won't. You guys are fans. You can't wait. The general public won't have the slightest interest in seeing another AVP film. So please stop saying 200 and 300 million. It is incredibly unrealistic, considering the box office history of these films. They have never been huge money makers like POTC and Spiderman.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Danger Close on Sep 08, 2007, 05:07:34 PM
I agree that we are not looking at a 100 million $ film, but 30 million is really low.

I would say 70 million in it's whole run in theaters.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Danger Close on Sep 08, 2007, 05:07:34 PM
I agree that we are not looking at a 100 million $ film, but 30 million is really low.

I would say 70 million in it's whole run in theaters.

you people act as if this movie has no chance in theaters...i say 125 mil at least
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: YutaniDitch on Sep 08, 2007, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Sep 08, 2007, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Sep 08, 2007, 02:45:37 PM
My guess is it will make less than AVP...

For two reasons:

NO PG-13 - meaning , less broadeness in audiences will be seeing the movie


Just because it rated R that dons't mean it not going to make a lot of money. Rated R movies like 300,The Matrix Reloaded and Terminator 2: Judgment Day have made tons of movie at the box office.

Yeah, just see the BO of those movies you mentioned and compare it with Alien Resurrection's, the last R-rated Alien movie...

Then you'll see my point a whole lot clearer...It had less BO revenue than AVP, Ratchett... ;)

And THAT was an Alien movie, with more originality, more production budget, more ad budget, and it made less than AVP, the third best grossing Alien movie, above Alien 3 and AR...

So, I think it will make overall about what Freddy versus Jason did...maybe even less... ;)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: echobbase79 on Sep 08, 2007, 05:09:32 PM
I'm still betting on $200 million worldwide. This is just a guess of course. Could it be way off? Sure.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Horhey on Sep 08, 2007, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:03:24 PM
I agree with Fluxcap. Lets be realistic here. This film will not be 300 or Matrix. Those are good films! The marketing for 300 was perfect. I can't say the same for AVP-R. 300 embraced the Myspace and Youtube generation and advertised like crazy and it raked in over 70 million it's opening weekend. Fox needs to do the same, but seeing as how they don't even like having their trailer on Youtube, makes me think they won't. You guys are fans. You can't wait. The general public won't have the slightest interest in seeing another AVP film. So please stop saying 200 and 300 million. It is incredibly unrealistic, considering the box office history of these films. They have never been huge money makers like POTC and Spiderman.

The first AVP pulled in 160 million so there is an interest in these movies among "the general public". Even though the movie was garbage, it ranked #1 in DVD sales.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 08, 2007, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:03:24 PM
I agree with Fluxcap. Lets be realistic here. This film will not be 300 or Matrix. Those are good films! The marketing for 300 was perfect. I can't say the same for AVP-R. 300 embraced the Myspace and Youtube generation and advertised like crazy and it raked in over 70 million it's opening weekend. Fox needs to do the same, but seeing as how they don't even like having their trailer on Youtube, makes me think they won't. You guys are fans. You can't wait. The general public won't have the slightest interest in seeing another AVP film. So please stop saying 200 and 300 million. It is incredibly unrealistic, considering the box office history of these films. They have never been huge money makers like POTC and Spiderman.

The first AVP pulled in 160 million so there is an interest in these movies among "the general public". Even though the movie was garbage, it ranked #1 in DVD sales.

171 mil actually
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:20:57 PM
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 08, 2007, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:03:24 PM
I agree with Fluxcap. Lets be realistic here. This film will not be 300 or Matrix. Those are good films! The marketing for 300 was perfect. I can't say the same for AVP-R. 300 embraced the Myspace and Youtube generation and advertised like crazy and it raked in over 70 million it's opening weekend. Fox needs to do the same, but seeing as how they don't even like having their trailer on Youtube, makes me think they won't. You guys are fans. You can't wait. The general public won't have the slightest interest in seeing another AVP film. So please stop saying 200 and 300 million. It is incredibly unrealistic, considering the box office history of these films. They have never been huge money makers like POTC and Spiderman.

The first AVP pulled in 160 million so there is an interest in these movies among "the general public". Even though the movie was garbage, it ranked #1 in DVD sales.

Yes, but that is because of the pg-13 rating. Any kid could get his hands on a ticket and the dvd. With the R rating, all those little kids who saw the first can't see the second, nor buy the dvd without adult supervision. That limits the amount of profits it can make. Unless this film is absolutely amazing and the word of mouth is fantastic, I don't see this making the profits the first did.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: KillingJoke on Sep 08, 2007, 05:22:06 PM
I'm guessing 60 million for its theatrical run.  It obviously won't be screened for critics, people have bad memories from AvP 1, and it looks cheap.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: YutaniDitch on Sep 08, 2007, 05:23:58 PM
Quote from: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: Horhey on Sep 08, 2007, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:03:24 PM
I agree with Fluxcap. Lets be realistic here. This film will not be 300 or Matrix. Those are good films! The marketing for 300 was perfect. I can't say the same for AVP-R. 300 embraced the Myspace and Youtube generation and advertised like crazy and it raked in over 70 million it's opening weekend. Fox needs to do the same, but seeing as how they don't even like having their trailer on Youtube, makes me think they won't. You guys are fans. You can't wait. The general public won't have the slightest interest in seeing another AVP film. So please stop saying 200 and 300 million. It is incredibly unrealistic, considering the box office history of these films. They have never been huge money makers like POTC and Spiderman.

The first AVP pulled in 160 million so there is an interest in these movies among "the general public". Even though the movie was garbage, it ranked #1 in DVD sales.

171 mil actually

Yes, but like Yellow_Alien said, 'the general public' doesn't go see monster movies nor gore movies, nor monster gore crossover movies...

THAT's the problem AVPR is facing...the numbers between an Alien movie (171 million tops - AVP) and a 300, Batman Begins, Matrix movie (above 400 million) don't lie...

And an AVP movie, any crossover movie, is facing even more harsh odds, because the majority of people who see crossover movies are hardcore fans or regular fans, or like myself regarding FvJ, someone curious to see both serial killer's backstories...

But this AVPR won't even have that 'backstory mode' to attract new audiences...

So, because of all that, there is a strong, realistic possibility that it will make less than AVP, because it is R-rated, more gorish, knowing full well that it was it's PG-13 rating that enabled AVP to have such positive box office revenues (171 million dollars)

MY guess would be around 100-130 million dollars wolrdwide, 25 to 35 million US-wise... ;)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:27:56 PM
Remember this film has a small budget, smaller than most films. So just because it makes less doesn't mean it is a failure. If it makes even just 100 million worldwide, I'd consider it a success.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Horhey on Sep 08, 2007, 05:29:26 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:27:56 PM
Remember this film has a small budget, smaller than most films. So just because it makes less doesn't mean it is a failure. If it makes even just 100 million worldwide, I'd consider it a success.

Yea, and thats not even counting DVD sales.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:31:36 PM
It'll probably make more on dvd sales and rentals. The thing I notice is, people may not go to see a movie like this in theaters, but they sure as hell like renting them.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Horhey on Sep 08, 2007, 05:37:49 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:31:36 PM
It'll probably make more on dvd sales and rentals. The thing I notice is, people may not go to see a movie like this in theaters, but they sure as hell like renting them.

The money it makes in theatres also depends on what it's competition is. As far as I know, all of the other comic book movies like Wolverine, Hulk, and Iron Man come out next summer.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: WisePredator on Sep 08, 2007, 05:47:13 PM
Lower than P2.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: YutaniDitch on Sep 08, 2007, 05:49:12 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:27:56 PM
Remember this film has a small budget, smaller than most films. So just because it makes less doesn't mean it is a failure. If it makes even just 100 million worldwide, I'd consider it a success.

Yes, but try to see this from a future-Alien-movie perspective...

An Alien movie willl require more of everything, more budget, more story, more acting memorabilia,...

So, even if AVPR covers the losses and has a tiny profit, it will STILL mean the end of the franchises...

So, I think that AVPR needs to make an astounding profit to enable FOX to even think about doing an Alien 5 movie or even have some brainstorming about a Predator 3...

And a marginal success or a success dependent on DVD sales is not enough to make FOX think they can invest in future Alien movies..

Just think about it: AVPR is more fan-oriented, the most fan-oriented movie of the whole bunch...

And the budget is the smallest of the bunch, so this is just FOX playing safe, and whichever profit this movie can make will be good...

The low budget means they are in safe mode, meaning that the budget they had (between 40-60 million) will be easily covered by both the domestic and international BO revenues... ;)

Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:52:34 PM
To be honest, I've given up hope on Alien 5. If it happens, it happens, but I'm not waiting for it.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: YutaniDitch on Sep 08, 2007, 05:54:43 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 05:31:36 PM
It'll probably make more on dvd sales and rentals. The thing I notice is, people may not go to see a movie like this in theaters, but they sure as hell like renting them.

That's another problem with movies like these...


I saw Freddy versus Jason on DVD, for instance... And DVD sales revenue is slow-building and late figures, usually years after the theatre release date...

So, those long-term estimates are probably not what Fox is aiming at with a holiday movie or any movie like this... ;)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Highland on Sep 08, 2007, 05:58:00 PM
agreed , A5 is toast.

Expect Pred 3 if any. Dont really see an excuse for AVP 3. Aliens have been established as Groups once again, taking away the threat.

I only wonder what would have been if AR was scrapped. That was the tuning point. Bloody French  ::) :D

Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: YutaniDitch on Sep 08, 2007, 06:03:00 PM
Quote from: highlandpred on Sep 08, 2007, 05:58:00 PM
agreed , A5 is toast.

Expect Pred 3 if any. Dont really see an excuse for AVP 3. Aliens have been established as Groups once again, taking away the threat.

I only wonder what would have been if AR was scrapped. That was the tuning point. Bloody French  ::) :D



That's easy, Highland...we would have had a perfect Alien Trilogy... and that would be enough for me... Ripley's heroic demise to neutralise the Alien threat to our planet... Case closed...

Any other Alien saga could have been done in another tryptic form, without Sigourney, and exploring other plotlines...

But Fox's greed mixed with severe symptoms to Hollywood's current originality and creativity depression and the resulting sequel fever said otherwise... ::) :(
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Sep 08, 2007, 06:27:47 PM
Rating R and many other films ( National Treasure 2, Charlie Wilson's War, The Water Horse and Rambo 4).

Budget and marketing-100 million. :o
That make a profit-200 million.

USA-50 million.(maximum 70 mill.)
Foreign-100-150 million.
Worldwide-150-200 million.

So we not see AVP3, Alien5, Predator 3. :'(
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: Ok7 on Sep 08, 2007, 06:27:47 PM
Rating R and many other films ( National Treasure 2, Charlie Wilson's War, The Water Horse and Rambo 4).

Budget and marketing-100 million. :o
That make a profit-200 million.

USA-50 million.(maximum 70 mill.)
Foreign-100-150 million.
Worldwide-150-200 million.

So we not see AVP3, Alien5, Predator 3. :'(

the budget and marketing are gonna be no where near 100 mil
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Sep 08, 2007, 06:33:22 PM
I hope.
Maybe marketing 30 million and budger 50-60 million=80-90 million.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 06:36:13 PM
Quote from: Ok7 on Sep 08, 2007, 06:33:22 PM
I hope.
Maybe marketing 30 million and budger 50-60 million=80-90 million.
the budet is not 50-60mil...more like 35-45 mil
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Sep 08, 2007, 06:37:52 PM
I hope, I hope is budget is 40 million.
--------------------------------------------------

But AVP1 have 35 million marketing + budget 60 million=95 million
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Sep 08, 2007, 07:54:27 PM
Quote from: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 12:15:50 AM
Quote from: War Wager on Sep 08, 2007, 12:04:52 AM
It'll make less than what AvP did anyway...

why do you say this??? if this is a overall good movie and gets semi good reviews from critics and fans alike that will draw more people to see it...even fans new to the franchises...and also people that are tired of all the happy fun loving christmas movies that would like to see something besides that AVP-R is their choice

Grindhouse too critic praise and what?
25 million in USA
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Sep 08, 2007, 07:59:14 PM
Ya, that pissed me off. Grindhouse was great and got great reviews, but the average movie goer didn't know what the hell it was about. It was a shame it bombed.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: KillingJoke on Sep 08, 2007, 08:00:31 PM
Quote from: highlandpred on Sep 08, 2007, 05:58:00 PM
agreed , A5 is toast.

Expect Pred 3 if any. Dont really see an excuse for AVP 3. Aliens have been established as Groups once again, taking away the threat.

I only wonder what would have been if AR was scrapped. That was the tuning point. Bloody French  ::) :D

Nobody would pay to see a stand-alone Predator movie after AvP.  It's been 17 years since we had one, and people are going to be asking where the Aliens are.

I would say that an Alien 5 is far more likely, especially given the recent interest Scott and Cameron had in it.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 08:04:21 PM
Quote from: KillingJoke on Sep 08, 2007, 08:00:31 PM
Quote from: highlandpred on Sep 08, 2007, 05:58:00 PM
agreed , A5 is toast.

Expect Pred 3 if any. Dont really see an excuse for AVP 3. Aliens have been established as Groups once again, taking away the threat.

I only wonder what would have been if AR was scrapped. That was the tuning point. Bloody French  ::) :D

Nobody would pay to see a stand-alone Predator movie after AvP.  It's been 17 years since we had one, and people are going to be asking where the Aliens are.

I would say that an Alien 5 is far more likely, especially given the recent interest Scott and Cameron had in it.
but would scott and cameron ever touch the series again?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Sep 08, 2007, 08:16:45 PM
Both seem enthusiastic about the concept. Whether it's really a good idea is up to how it works out. Lucas mentioned he was going back to the SW saga to do the PT and longtime fans rejoiced as "he was the only one capable of showing these characters respect." Check any SW forum for how that ultimately panned out- directors can be just as detrimental as the years pass as a novice to the series.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Docta Jekyll on Sep 08, 2007, 09:07:13 PM
Okay, people say a lot of teens saw the first film, but just think, the first came out august 2004, any 14 year old who saw that movie, and some 13 year olds your turned 14 later that year, would be 17 by the time this film comes out, able to see it in the theater.

its the teens that didn't know there were ever predator or alien films that liked AVP that will still see this movie.

and don't know where all of this budget talk is coming from, AVP had a budget of 45 million, with marketing, it was closer to 60-80 million, 80 million tops.

This movie has, according to everything we've heard, not only a budget less then AVP, so under 45 million, but quite a low budget altogether, so we are talking low 30 millions for the budget.

if this film's budget is anywhere around 30 million, or anything less, then 100 million worldwide would be profitable for this film, studios keep 55% of the worldwide gross.

so with marketing and everything, this movie might top out as costing 50-60 million, and again, if it can hit 100 million worldwide, that would be breaking even, with dvd sales to look forward too.

so if this movie can make anything over 100 million, even like 120 million, it will be successful, its got a low budget, marketing has been started later then usual, so there won't end up being a lot spent on marketing, so anything north of 100 million would be good for this film.

and I think it really depends on its domestic numbers, because from what I hear, its picking very uncrowded days in the foreign markets, so thats easy money.

its going up against some serious big hitter on christmas though, a lot of family films and what not, so being big domestically would be tuff, but then again, by now, I think some might be tired of the usual big christmas family adventure movie(remember Eragon last year, performed pretty mildly, because people are tired of movies like that) and the adults will feel like seeing something more mature, and AVP-R will be out.

So I doubt it will win # 1 grosser on its opening day or weekend, but it will do good

I think a 20-30 million opening domestic weekend would be good for this film.

It will at least make 40 or so million domestically I think, and at least 100 million worldwide, it could do better, a bit better, but if it hits 200 million worldwide, that would be great, and ensure another film, but I doubt it will make that much
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Sep 08, 2007, 09:33:27 PM
Budget AVP is 60 million ( http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avp.htm ).
Budget AVP2 maybe 45-50 million+30 million marketing=75-80 million  :o

AVP2 vs:

21 december: Sweeney Todd, National Treasure: Book of Secrets, P.S. I Love You.
26 december: Rambo 4.
28 december: Charlie Wilson's War, The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 08, 2007, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: Ok7 on Sep 08, 2007, 09:33:27 PM
Budget AVP is 60 million ( http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avp.htm ).
Budget AVP2 maybe 45-50 million+30 million marketing=75-80 million  :o

AVP2 vs:

21 december: Sweeney Todd, National Treasure: Book of Secrets, P.S. I Love You.
26 december: Rambo 4.
28 december: Charlie Wilson's War, The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep.
notice most of them are family oriented movies...except john rambo (duh), people will get tired of see all those family movies and want something violent to watch, im doubt people will see john rambo for the entire seasen...so AVP-R is the next best bet...until cloverfield comeso out
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Docta Jekyll on Sep 08, 2007, 11:29:54 PM
60 million with marketing then, because David Fincher had a budget of 50 million for Alien 3, and Paul Anderson said himself that  he had less money then that when making AVP, and the most reported number is 45 million

and boxofficemojo bases their budgets off of what is submitted to them, a bit like wikipedia, but not as easy to change, if enough people tell them the budget of Superman Returns is 270 million, then thats what gets put there, when that is not true the budget was about 204 million

BOM is reliable, but in some situations its not, AVP's budget was 45 million, and AVP-R's is less

and who are you to say what AVP-R's budget range is, like what you say is fact?

it will be more like AVP-R's budget with marketing is 40-50 million

and AVPR has the advantage of coming out a day or three before most on that list, which is good.

and yes, those family movies, if any do good, will be top heavy, and AVP-R will be more balanced across its release
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: CELTICPRED on Sep 09, 2007, 12:59:19 AM
Just got back from 3:10 to Yuma.

And we got a trailer for  National Treasure: The Book of Secrets.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809839449/info (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809839449/info)

Release Date: 12-21-07


National Treasure earned a domestic total gross of $173,008,894 ,with a worldwide gross of $347,451,894



It's Christmas time, people are with families, and they want to see a movie, what do you think they are going to go see?


Oh well, I'll be at AVP2.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 09, 2007, 01:01:43 AM
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Sep 09, 2007, 12:59:19 AM
Just got back from 3:10 to Yuma.

And we got a trailer for  National Treasure: The Book of Secrets.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809839449/info (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809839449/info)

Release Date: 12-21-07


National Treasure earned a domestic total gross of $173,008,894 ,with a worldwide gross of $347,451,894



It's Christmas time, people are with families, and they want to see a movie, what do you think they are going to go see?


Oh well, I'll be at AVP2.
but do you know how boring it is seeing family film after family film?? in due time people will see AVP-R
just cause its not a family film...and that might bring in new fans to the franchises
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Sep 09, 2007, 01:22:07 AM
National Treasure was a very forgetable film. Even if this movies blows, it involves the use of horror icons. I somehow feel that films like NT2 won't be competition.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: CELTICPRED on Sep 09, 2007, 01:33:16 AM
I loved National Treasure.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: CelticP on Sep 09, 2007, 01:35:25 AM
Quote from: pred_alien on Sep 09, 2007, 01:01:43 AM
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Sep 09, 2007, 12:59:19 AM
Just got back from 3:10 to Yuma.

And we got a trailer for  National Treasure: The Book of Secrets.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809839449/info (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809839449/info)

Release Date: 12-21-07


National Treasure earned a domestic total gross of $173,008,894 ,with a worldwide gross of $347,451,894



It's Christmas time, people are with families, and they want to see a movie, what do you think they are going to go see?


Oh well, I'll be at AVP2.
but do you know how boring it is seeing family film after family film?? in due time people will see AVP-R
just cause its not a family film...and that might bring in new fans to the franchises

Yeah, Ratatouille was such a boring film... ::)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Sep 09, 2007, 07:58:14 AM
Quote from: Docta Jekyll on Sep 08, 2007, 11:29:54 PM
60 million with marketing then, because David Fincher had a budget of 50 million for Alien 3, and Paul Anderson said himself that  he had less money then that when making AVP, and the most reported number is 45 million

and boxofficemojo bases their budgets off of what is submitted to them, a bit like wikipedia, but not as easy to change, if enough people tell them the budget of Superman Returns is 270 million, then thats what gets put there, when that is not true the budget was about 204 million

BOM is reliable, but in some situations its not, AVP's budget was 45 million, and AVP-R's is less

and who are you to say what AVP-R's budget range is, like what you say is fact?

it will be more like AVP-R's budget with marketing is 40-50 million

and AVPR has the advantage of coming out a day or three before most on that list, which is good.

and yes, those family movies, if any do good, will be top heavy, and AVP-R will be more balanced across its release

http://www.kinopoisk.ru/level/85/film/41949/

Budget-60 mill.
Marketing-35 mill.
=95 million.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Sep 09, 2007, 08:01:41 AM
its amking 50 abgazillion dollars becuz its avp lulz

I'm expecting less than 300 due to the first but a decent response. So long as this movie doesn't have something like the Newborn drastically impacting the viewer opinion, it can pull off a successful box office gross.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: avpmad! on Sep 09, 2007, 09:56:38 AM
i think it will make about $250 mill in USA and about £150 mill in UK (i will go to see it a lot :))
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Sep 09, 2007, 12:56:37 PM
Quote from: CelticP on Sep 09, 2007, 01:35:25 AM
Quote from: pred_alien on Sep 09, 2007, 01:01:43 AM
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Sep 09, 2007, 12:59:19 AM
Just got back from 3:10 to Yuma.

And we got a trailer for  National Treasure: The Book of Secrets.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809839449/info (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809839449/info)

Release Date: 12-21-07


National Treasure earned a domestic total gross of $173,008,894 ,with a worldwide gross of $347,451,894



It's Christmas time, people are with families, and they want to see a movie, what do you think they are going to go see?


Oh well, I'll be at AVP2.
but do you know how boring it is seeing family film after family film?? in due time people will see AVP-R
just cause its not a family film...and that might bring in new fans to the franchises

Yeah, Ratatouille was such a boring film... ::)
your right ratatouille was a really boring film
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Sep 09, 2007, 01:02:39 PM
Quote from: avpmad! on Sep 09, 2007, 09:56:38 AM
i think it will make about $250 mill in USA and about £150 mill in UK (i will go to see it a lot :))

Ha, ha ,ha...!!! Never.
-------------------------------------
Ratatouille is cool cartoon film.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Don Dorris on Sep 09, 2007, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: avpmad! on Sep 09, 2007, 09:56:38 AM
i think it will make about $250 mill in USA and about £150 mill in UK (i will go to see it a lot :))
For it to make 150 mill in the UK, it would have to be a f**king huge film. Never going to happen, no matter how many times you see it.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Anomaly on Sep 09, 2007, 04:07:39 PM
Quote from: Daweism on Sep 07, 2007, 11:29:11 PM
Quote from: Lovely Man on Sep 07, 2007, 11:26:10 PM
There are too many variables to accurately work it out for me. 120 million could be optimistic yet.

At first it won't do great, but it will be like Batman Begins, slow start, but word of mout due to good movie will drive the masses to see it.

I have a hunch itll be more like the typical blockbuster...  big opening then huge dropoff. In order to  get the Begins pattern it takes an outstanding classic after a previous crap installment, and somehow i doubt avp2 will be that. Cmon dawei  ::)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: chrisr232007 on Oct 04, 2007, 11:33:36 PM
Please fill free to explain you answer which I hope it makes over 100million so the franchises will keep going for Alien, Predator, and AvP.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Oct 04, 2007, 11:41:11 PM
I made this topic before http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=5137.0
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: chrisr232007 on Oct 04, 2007, 11:43:57 PM
Well you didnt have a poll and that was back on Sept 7 before the new trialers, pics, and interviews have came out so now people have seen more what the movie offers and now can make a better judgement on how the movie might be.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Oct 05, 2007, 12:07:43 AM
Well ok then. I think this movie will get 70 million because it comes out on x-mass weekend and this flim is geting a lot hype on internet (It #1 on IGN). The Flim is rated R and that means people will see it.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: chrisr232007 on Oct 05, 2007, 01:19:10 AM
Well i hope it makes more than 70million because AvP 1 made 80million in the US and that would not be good for AvP-R it it cant gross more money than AvP 1.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Dino21AvP on Oct 05, 2007, 06:14:43 PM
I'm gonna say it will make around 80-90 million, but I hope I'm wrong and it turns out to be a huge hit!
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Master on Oct 05, 2007, 07:54:29 PM
I voted 75, but if it will be good it can make more. But nevertheless it is a dusk of Alien and Predator era, and may be there will be AvP3 but P3 and A5 are death subjects.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: War Wager on Oct 05, 2007, 09:00:36 PM
I really don't think this movie will do well...
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Horhey on Oct 05, 2007, 09:33:34 PM
50 million at the most.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: WisePredator on Oct 05, 2007, 09:38:21 PM
It would make 100 million/80 million if it had the right publicity and people would be hyped for it, my estimate is: close to 80 million or under.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Oct 05, 2007, 10:49:12 PM
All you people who voted for 100 million have incredibly exaggerated expectations. None of the previous films made that much money domestically. What makes you think this one will? Especially considering no body knows about it except the fans.  These franchises were never 100 million dollar franchises.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Highland on Oct 05, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
$50 million, its a sequel for one and the release date for two.

Movies like this i think are considered worthwhile if they make more than they cost (obviously), with the rumours at $40 budget, i think $50 is a realistic target to aim for.

$70 would be a real success story. IMHO
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Spidey3121 on Oct 06, 2007, 02:33:36 AM
It's doubtful it will make the 80 million the first film. Truthfully it's a shame that the 1st movie didn't gross more after an opening weekend of 38 million.

I'm guessing the movie will debut pretty strong, although not as strong as AvP 1, and from that point on it's word of mouth really. If there is a lot of positive reaction then i say it could do around 70 million. It would obviously be nice if it did better but one can't expect much from a sequel to a movie that not many people liked that much. Plus you need to factor in that it will be rated R and not PG-13.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: xenomorph36 on Oct 06, 2007, 03:05:13 AM
i think it will make around as much as resident evil 3.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Demonio Cazador on Oct 06, 2007, 04:07:41 AM
I'm thinking between 50 and 60 million...I'd like it to make more so the sequel gets a larger budget, but, I don't think so...we'll see! The thing is that lately in the U.S.A., with all the competition, if a movie doesn't make money on the opening weekend it's done, because the following weekend a new contender comes along.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: gameoverman on Oct 06, 2007, 04:38:34 AM
Probably 50 mil - and the rest will be made up for by the dvd sales.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: xenomorph36 on Oct 06, 2007, 07:05:53 AM
well i dont know exackly how these guys are gonna pull it off but i do know that they will NEVER make more than 100 million( at least not on the box office). first of all this movie isnt a blockbuster and they bairly advertised the movie. most of the ppl dont even know that this movie is comming out.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: El Diablo on Oct 06, 2007, 09:27:34 AM
If they're lucky and word of mouth is strong then it could realistically make over 50, maybe up to 60 million. It could follow the same path as the RESIDENT EVIL films or the UNDERWORLD movies, which were moderate sci-fi/horror hits at the box office that also happened to carry an R-rating. I'd love to see a movie like this make a 100 million or more but that just ain't gonna happen. The word of mouth has to be incredibly strong for that kind of repeat business.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Highland on Oct 06, 2007, 10:23:02 AM
Quote from: El Diablo on Oct 06, 2007, 09:27:34 AM
If they're lucky and word of mouth is strong then it could realistically make over 50, maybe up to 60 million. It could follow the same path as the RESIDENT EVIL films or the UNDERWORLD movies, which were moderate sci-fi/horror hits at the box office that also happened to carry an R-rating. I'd love to see a movie like this make a 100 million or more but that just ain't gonna happen. The word of mouth has to be incredibly strong for that kind of repeat business.

Or kind reviews...and no compitition. Theres alot of factors that will decide, which says alot about the state of the franchise.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: SiL on Oct 06, 2007, 10:24:46 AM
I think its money will greatly drop off when Cloverfield hits the screens.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: SuicideDoors on Oct 06, 2007, 11:18:58 AM
Providing marketing hits hyperdrive in december, it's capable of pulling in about $60-70 million quite easily. So many factors support this:

1. AvP's opening was extremely impressive despite Paul Anderson's name associated with it and a PG-13 tag (Which would have worked against it as well as for it). Estimates were actually pegged at $45 mill for it's opening weekend which shows the pull of the AvP concept.

2. A lot of people are gonna see it because it's Rated R. Those who were 13 then will be 17 now and old enough to see it legally, and like f**k is an R-Rating gonna stop teenagers getting into the movie regardless. Basically, they're are quite a few demographics.

3. The advertising is cleverly working on a holiday theme. People may not see it on Christmas day, but they'll still be off work a couple of days later, so why not then?

4. The movie might actually be good. A decent critic reception will only help.

QuoteI think its money will greatly drop off when Cloverfield hits the screens.

There's a month between the two films. The money would have probably greatly dropped off before it reaches that point.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Kriszilla on Oct 06, 2007, 11:56:50 AM
The glory days of movies are over now, even when a truly great film comes out, it won't do very well. Movie industry is about money now, not entertainment.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Oct 06, 2007, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Oct 05, 2007, 10:49:12 PM
What makes you think this one will? Especially considering no body knows about it except the fans. 

People who saw Death Sentence knows about the movie.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: El Diablo on Oct 08, 2007, 11:05:44 AM
Quote from: Kriszilla on Oct 06, 2007, 11:56:50 AM
The glory days of movies are over now, even when a truly great film comes out, it won't do very well. Movie industry is about money now, not entertainment.

Truer words were never spoken.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 08, 2007, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: El Diablo on Oct 08, 2007, 11:05:44 AM
Quote from: Kriszilla on Oct 06, 2007, 11:56:50 AM
The glory days of movies are over now, even when a truly great film comes out, it won't do very well. Movie industry is about money now, not entertainment.

Truer words were never spoken.
Yep.
Its actually very sad, we get a quality movie once a year if were lucky.
Look at the 80´s, those were times for movies. Really.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Oct 08, 2007, 02:37:24 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Oct 06, 2007, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Oct 05, 2007, 10:49:12 PM
What makes you think this one will? Especially considering no body knows about it except the fans. 

People who saw Death Sentence knows about the movie.
too bad many people didnt see death sentence...

but since the trailer is with Saw IV and alot of people see it theyll get hyped for AVP-R...

also if this opens at the top of the charts people will think its good, and thus see it
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Horhey on Oct 08, 2007, 02:49:57 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Oct 06, 2007, 11:18:58 AM




2. A lot of people are gonna see it because it's Rated R. Those who were 13 then will be 17 now and old enough to see it legally, and like f**k is an R-Rating gonna stop teenagers getting into the movie regardless. Basically, they're are quite a few demographics.

That's a damn good point. My cousin is one of them. I actually think the R rating will make it more successful. All the Resident Evil movies have done well even though everyone knew what to expect before they bought their ticket. I really doubt alot of parents wouldnt allow their teens to watch an AVP movie just becouse its rated R. Only the Jesus freaks care about that kind of shit.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Oct 08, 2007, 05:57:05 PM
Quote from: Horhey on Oct 08, 2007, 02:49:57 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Oct 06, 2007, 11:18:58 AM




2. A lot of people are gonna see it because it's Rated R. Those who were 13 then will be 17 now and old enough to see it legally, and like f**k is an R-Rating gonna stop teenagers getting into the movie regardless. Basically, they're are quite a few demographics.

That's a damn good point. My cousin is one of them. I actually think the R rating will make it more successful. All the Resident Evil movies have done well even though everyone knew what to expect before they bought their ticket. I really doubt alot of parents wouldnt allow their teens to watch an AVP movie just becouse its rated R. Only the Jesus freaks care about that kind of shit.
ill be 14 when the movie comes out and my parents will definately let me see it
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Spidey3121 on Oct 08, 2007, 06:01:03 PM
On a more specifc note what do people think it will make on it's opening Wednesday?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: AlienatedPredator on Oct 08, 2007, 08:02:09 PM
Well, if we all end up liking it we could see it 2 - 3 times and get our friends to do the same. It couldn't hurt.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Cellien on Oct 08, 2007, 08:19:53 PM
People are gonna go see it because people go out and see movies on Xmas.. I just find it odd such a gore-fest movie is releasing x-mas day.  Their sales would probably be sky high had it released on Halloween or something.  I'm sure the marketing guys know what they're doing however.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 08, 2007, 10:29:41 PM
Quote from: AlienatedPredator on Oct 08, 2007, 08:02:09 PM
Well, if we all end up liking it we could see it 2 - 3 times and get our friends to do the same. It couldn't hurt.
6 of my friends are already going with me after i showed them the red band trailer.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Rocco on Oct 08, 2007, 10:36:35 PM
over 1ooM

people are gonna see this movie many times ... I think so  :-\
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Oct 08, 2007, 10:55:41 PM
Ummm...no.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Dr. Wren on Nov 21, 2007, 02:45:10 AM
Read the title, it says all,  I would have to say, amidst all the problems, it should do pretty good, better than anything else.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: badass_badger on Nov 21, 2007, 02:49:26 AM
15 mil it's opening weekend.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: JordanLee on Nov 21, 2007, 03:10:12 AM
I'm not sure. It was number 1 most popular movie on yahoo movies for awhile, If I had to give a prediction I'd say between 45-60 million, but thats also just me.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: JDubG on Nov 21, 2007, 04:09:42 AM
It will do very well. Everyone seems to be talking about it offline that I know of.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Craig on Nov 21, 2007, 04:24:34 AM
8 mill opening - 50 domestically - 110 international
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Dr. Wren on Nov 21, 2007, 04:51:54 AM
I'd have to guess something like 20 mil opening weekend
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: superunknown on Nov 21, 2007, 05:02:54 AM
11 million, opening
50 million domestically

It's a bit under the radar, it's going up against a lot of big-budget blockbusters like Golden Compass, I Am Legend, and National Treasures, and Christmas is a bad time for horror movies
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: echobbase79 on Nov 21, 2007, 05:04:40 AM

I'll say about $15 to $20 million opening.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Robotpo on Nov 21, 2007, 05:05:52 AM
Quote from: Craig on Nov 21, 2007, 04:24:34 AM
8 mill opening - 50 domestically - 110 international

Sounds about right...
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: XxSaNdMaNxX on Nov 21, 2007, 06:20:38 AM
25 to 30 AT the most but well'll see
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on Nov 21, 2007, 06:27:35 AM
100 million worldwide.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: xenomorph36 on Nov 21, 2007, 06:31:53 AM
i think it will actually do pretty well in the theaters even if the movie is attacked by the critics, because even shitty movies like saw 1,2,3,54,5,6,7,7,8,9,10... made all those money.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: MudButt on Nov 21, 2007, 06:36:29 AM
10 Million Opening Weekend.
Around 65-70 Million Domestically
Maybe 85 World Wide

As good as it seems to us all, people will most likely bootleg it, release and people with watch on their computers and others will be busy watching other movies during December. AVP-R has a lot of other kid-friendly movies and I am Legend which sounds really good right about now. It might do decent and I think it should go over the budget so they make some profit out of it.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: marrerom on Nov 21, 2007, 06:37:50 AM
the fact that the marketing campain has sucked, and that people will naturally be weary of avp's sequel, plus the fact that it opens on christmas = box office failure.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Robotpo on Nov 21, 2007, 06:42:35 AM
Yep...again... ;)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: marrerom on Nov 21, 2007, 06:50:04 AM
 ???
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Robotpo on Nov 21, 2007, 06:53:37 AM
I just agreed with something you said in another thread...

Anywho, let's do a break-down on both films:

AVP:
Had a teaser almost a year before the film, (late summer 2003)

Had official website up by December 2003

Had full trailer online by May 2004. Had full trailer in front of "I, Robot," a large-scale, big-budget sci-fi film

Had a novelization in June 2004

Had a number of online clips, making-of features, ETC

Had a making-of feature on FOX, ads all over TV, ETC

Had posters/stands in theaters starting in July 2004

Ended up with $171 world-wide


AVP-R:
No trailer until the red-band, released to a very select group in August 2007

Green-band trailers in front of "Death Sentence," a movie that no one saw, (and didn't even get wide release), and a few other small films

As of November, still basically a teaser website

Two non-revealing making-of features on Reelz Channel.com from March 2007

No novelization, at all

No real attempt to market the film except to the online fan base, (AKA, people who were aware of the film anyway)

One minute-long clip, again aimed at the online fans

As of almost a month before film, only a few posters, no TV spots

Let's see, will AVP-R really do more than AVP? I don't think so...

Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: marrerom on Nov 21, 2007, 06:55:36 AM
oh....... :D
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: marrerom on Nov 21, 2007, 07:07:56 AM
Quote from: Robotpo on Nov 21, 2007, 06:53:37 AM
I just agreed with something you said in another thread...

Anywho, let's do a break-down on both films:

AVP:
Had a teaser almost a year before the film, (late summer 2003)

Had official website up by December 2003

Had full trailer online by May 2004. Had full trailer in front of "I, Robot," a large-scale, big-budget sci-fi film

Had a novelization in June 2004

Had a number of online clips, making-of features, ETC

Had a making-of feature on FOX, ads all over TV, ETC

Had posters/stands in theaters starting in July 2004

Ended up with $171 world-wide


AVP-R:
No trailer until the red-band, released to a very select group in August 2007

Green-band trailers in front of "Death Sentence," a movie that no one saw, (and didn't even get wide release), and a few other small films

As of November, still basically a teaser website

Two non-revealing making-of features on Reelz Channel.com from March 2007

No novelization, at all

No real attempt to market the film except to the online fan base, (AKA, people who were aware of the film anyway)

One minute-long clip, again aimed at the online fans

As of almost a month before film, only a few posters, no TV spots

Let's see, will AVP-R really do more than AVP? I don't think so...



exactly. its like fox isnt even trying with this one.

when the first avp came out everyone knew about it, the promotional stuff was everywhere. not only is this films marketing campian one of the worst ever but it comes out christmas! its like they want it to fail.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: superunknown on Nov 21, 2007, 07:25:43 AM
Yeah, AvP 1 was really sort of an event, wasn't it?  Featurettes, behind-the-scenes footage, HBO specials, MTV exclusive previews, etc.

It was a summer blockbuster film, one of the most anticipated films of the season.  Aliens and Predators on screen together for the first time.

This one is like...eh.  A redband trailer and some pics.  Half the budget of the first film, no recognizable faces in the cast, none of the epic feel.

Then again, with only a $40 million budget, it's almost certain that the film will make a profit, so they don't have to spend much on marketing.

It would be nice if Fox actually cared though, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Robotpo on Nov 21, 2007, 07:26:54 AM
^^Right.

I'm getting the feeling some of the folks at Fox marketing are confused about how to promote a film that was so haphazardly thrown together...
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: superunknown on Nov 21, 2007, 07:30:17 AM
I'm still confused as to why they even greenlit Salerno's script.  You could throw a dart out a window and hit someone who could come up with a better plot.

They saw how so many hated the idea of Aliens and Predators in Colorado, yet they went ahead with it anyway and just blacked out all info for months.

AvP 1 made a bundle, why didn't they give the sequel a bigger budget and put it in space in the future?  Instead they went in the opposite direction, and I have no clue why.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Robotpo on Nov 21, 2007, 07:31:00 AM
^^Because Fox is clueless.  ;)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Xenomorphine on Nov 21, 2007, 07:38:42 AM
Quote from: superunknown on Nov 21, 2007, 07:30:17 AM
AvP 1 made a bundle, why didn't they give the sequel a bigger budget and put it in space in the future?  Instead they went in the opposite direction, and I have no clue why.

Because these are the same sort of people who put countless numbers of 'reality TV' shows out on the production line.

Why? Because they're cheap and tons of people watch them.

It's the same logic at play for this. They want the biggest profit for the smallest financial outlay.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Dr. Wren on Nov 21, 2007, 01:33:05 PM
OMG, UR RIGHT

Right now, if Fox actually wanted to make more than 3 bucks off of this movie, they should be pushing non revealing ads through the roof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Robotpo on Nov 21, 2007, 06:08:47 PM
Something tells me when/if the TV spots start, they'll be primarily on sci-fi/triller type shows, and/or on stations that Fox thinks AVP fans watch a lot, (Sci-Fi, Spike), ETC, STILL pandering to an audience that already knows the film's coming out. Love it or hate it, the fans and online community in general know the film's on its way. If Fox had a clue, they'd try to promote the film to the general movie-going audience, and show them why, (in Fox's mind), they should see the movie...
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: csutkakoma on Nov 21, 2007, 06:20:10 PM
AvP made 150 million dollar if i remember correctly. I think the resonable for AvPR is 120 million. It will be good.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Robotpo on Nov 21, 2007, 06:21:28 PM
AVP made about $170 million.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Dr. Wren on Nov 21, 2007, 06:23:49 PM
AVP would have made way more if it was better, with all the ad camping, they could have easily made #1 gross of the year, if not a couple of years, good + huge add camp. = Huge grossing movie.

In the last one they had Huge add camp, in this one they've got good movie, atleast we hope.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: shakermakerman on Nov 21, 2007, 06:26:25 PM
10p
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: csutkakoma on Nov 21, 2007, 06:27:16 PM
Quote from: Xenonewborn on Nov 21, 2007, 06:23:49 PM
AVP would have made way more if it was better, with all the ad camping, they could have easily made #1 gross of the year, if not a couple of years, good + huge add camp. = Huge grossing movie.

In the last one they had Huge add camp, in this one they've got good movie, atleast we hope.

I wrote 120 million because AvP1 was a bad movie and the people will remember oh this shit was What i seen in 2004. But i hope if it will be really good more people will see it, but after AvP1 the general rush will be smaller. ( At the begining for sure)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Dr. Wren on Nov 21, 2007, 06:29:00 PM
Great example of a good strategy is Spidey 3, people knew about it, (just general movie gowers) about 5 months in advance is when they put a trailer in like james bond or somehting like that, and it the movie the trailer was in was good, so , yeah.  I remeber going to the theatre 1 and a half months before the movie came out and they had the cups and popcorn holders in spidey 3 style.  That and it was an awesome movie
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Dr. Wren on Nov 21, 2007, 06:29:55 PM
Quote from: csutkakoma on Nov 21, 2007, 06:27:16 PM
Quote from: Xenonewborn on Nov 21, 2007, 06:23:49 PM
AVP would have made way more if it was better, with all the ad camping, they could have easily made #1 gross of the year, if not a couple of years, good + huge add camp. = Huge grossing movie.

In the last one they had Huge add camp, in this one they've got good movie, atleast we hope.

I wrote 120 million because AvP1 was a bad movie and the people will remember oh this shit was What i seen in 2004. But i hope if it will be really good more people will see it, but after AvP1 the general rush will be smaller. ( At the begining for sure)

Yeah, I'd have to say that if they made an AVP 3 and AVP R is good, then AVP 3 will prolly make lots of money, if it's good enough and has a good ad camp, "the trailers are the main event"
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Invisible Darkness on Dec 11, 2007, 03:10:48 AM
Just to get everyone's opinion on how much money AVP-R will make in it's opening week and it's finishing box office total.

I estimate a figure somewhere between $18 to $20 million in the first week.
I think the final box office total will be around $55 to $75 million (Domestic) with the Foreign box office numbers around $100 to $120 million.

My worldwide box office prediction is: $155 to $195 million.

Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: echobbase79 on Dec 11, 2007, 03:14:17 AM

$115 million worldwide.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Docta Jekyll on Dec 11, 2007, 03:16:48 AM
I'll go ahead and pitch in my guess.

From the Tuesday its released, to the end of the week, 6 days, I would say it has a fair chance of hitting close to $50 million domestic, it just seems possible, a decent opening day and weekdays, along with a moderate to good weekend, $50 million domestically in its first 6 days doesn't seem completely impossible to me.

as far as total worldwide gross, not sure, I'd say $120-200 million, which would put this right up in the same area of success as the first AVP, which cost more then this one.

But who knows, maybe this film will really catch on with word of mouth, and be bigger then the first AVP
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Invisible Darkness on Dec 11, 2007, 03:23:28 AM
My numbers might be kinda high for some, but keep in mind that the 1st film had a worldwide total of $171 million. I honestly think this film will have better box office numbers overseas just as the previous AVP. I think (but hope not!) it will make less money than the 1st AVP did in the US, but have a much better reception overall, unlike the first one did. With the fans anyways.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: XxSaNdMaNxX on Dec 11, 2007, 03:28:11 AM
well teh first one made 100 mill WIDE and well ppl look more hyped to this one so im guessing around 110-115 mill
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Venom on Dec 11, 2007, 04:02:30 AM
There are MANY threads about how it will do at the box office.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Craig on Dec 11, 2007, 05:01:41 AM
12 opening, 68 domestic, 120 international
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Spidey3121 on Dec 11, 2007, 05:23:26 AM
64 domestic + 74 overseas = 138 International
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Spidey3121 on Dec 11, 2007, 05:24:52 AM
My above post is to pessimistic... hopefully it will do better than that.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Sheriff Eddie Morales on Dec 11, 2007, 08:20:06 AM
200 milions worldwide.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: El Diablo on Dec 11, 2007, 09:38:25 AM
The numbers for opening week could probably hit somewhere between 20 to 30 million at best. There's a lot of people who were curious about the first movie, which attributed to much of it's success, but I'm not so sure if those people are going to be up for another outing with these monsters. It also has a much more restrictive rating than the first movie so that will most likely affect the box office. I think overall it will be lucky to have made somewhere between 50 to 65 million domestic. I don't see this breaking a hundred million here in the States.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: csutkakoma on Dec 11, 2007, 11:22:01 AM
120-150 million worldwide.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Dec 24, 2007, 12:06:21 AM
anyone know what the box office predictions are???
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 24, 2007, 12:08:26 AM
It'll do what AvP did. It'll rake in a fair bit on it's open and it'll probably make it's budget back easily.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: War Wager on Dec 24, 2007, 12:11:12 AM
And with it being rated 15 in the UK and Australia, that makes it all the better.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 24, 2007, 12:15:07 AM
The same people that were turned off by the original AVP being PG13, brought in the same amount of people who were able to see it because of the PG13 rating.

Same applies here, only vice versa.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 12:40:06 AM
I think it will make $42,295,060 on the opeaning weekend.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: severen76 on Dec 24, 2007, 12:41:34 AM
^^ very precised
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 12:43:51 AM
Quote from: severen76 on Dec 24, 2007, 12:41:34 AM
^^ very precised

I think it will make more money on the opeaning weekend then the first movie because people will see it because it looks awesome and there no good movies that are playing on chirstmas.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: pred_alien on Dec 24, 2007, 12:44:40 AM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 12:43:51 AM
Quote from: severen76 on Dec 24, 2007, 12:41:34 AM
^^ very precised

I think it will make more money on the opeaning weekend then the first movie because people will see it because it looks awesome and there no good movies that are playing on chirstmas.
1. Sweeney Todd
2. I am Legend
3. National Treasure (for some people)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 12:46:49 AM
I Am Legend already came out 2 weeks ago and Sweeney Todd looks like another Johnny Depp movie.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Daweism on Dec 24, 2007, 12:47:13 AM
37,918,019
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: severen76 on Dec 24, 2007, 12:48:07 AM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 12:46:49 AM
I Am Legend already came out 2 weeks ago and Sweeney Todd looks like another Johnny Depp movie.

but johnny depp is a great actor.

to me it looks like another tim burton movie
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 24, 2007, 12:48:51 AM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 12:46:49 AM
I Am Legend already came out 2 weeks ago and Sweeney Todd looks like another Johnny Depp movie.

I'm willing to bet more people are down for seeing Sweeney Todd as opposed to the sequel to a mediocre VS film.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 12:49:48 AM
Well people will see this movie just because it looks awesome and it will be better then the first movie.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 24, 2007, 12:50:06 AM
You'd be surprised. I've seen more folk looking at our AvPR stuff than Sweeny Todd.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: War Wager on Dec 24, 2007, 12:50:32 AM
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 24, 2007, 12:48:51 AM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 12:46:49 AM
I Am Legend already came out 2 weeks ago and Sweeney Todd looks like another Johnny Depp movie.

I'm willing to bet more people are down for seeing Sweeney Todd as opposed to the sequel to a mediocre VS film.

Unfortunatly I'll have to agree with that ^  :-\
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 12:52:27 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 24, 2007, 12:50:06 AM
You'd be surprised. I've seen more folk looking at our AvPR stuff than Sweeny Todd.

I know, people at school are seeing it when comes out. They said "Did you see the t.v add for the new AVP Movie last night during the football game?, it going to be awesome and epic then the first movie!".
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 24, 2007, 12:53:09 AM
Quote from: War Wager on Dec 24, 2007, 12:50:32 AM
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 24, 2007, 12:48:51 AM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 12:46:49 AM
I Am Legend already came out 2 weeks ago and Sweeney Todd looks like another Johnny Depp movie.

I'm willing to bet more people are down for seeing Sweeney Todd as opposed to the sequel to a mediocre VS film.

Unfortunatly I'll have to agree with that ^  :-\

Its why we need to tell the people, run naked through the streets with AVP-R posters all over you screaming the release date.

I hope it does OK, get some reputation and dignity back. 
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: badass_badger on Dec 24, 2007, 12:53:26 AM
 Sweeney Todd has only made 9 mil this weekend, fools.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: severen76 on Dec 24, 2007, 12:54:37 AM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 24, 2007, 12:53:09 AM


I hope it does OK, get some reputation and dignity back. 

dont think it would get its dignity back if you marketed it like that
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 12:57:46 AM
Quote from: badass_badger on Dec 24, 2007, 12:53:26 AM
Sweeney Todd has only made 9 mil this weekend, fools.

Wow really?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 24, 2007, 12:58:14 AM
AvP made $38,291,056
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Dec 24, 2007, 01:01:16 AM
Regardless of how the fans feel, the general public LIKED AVP.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 01:01:27 AM
Movies that coming out on chirstmas beside AVPR

The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep
Persepolis
The Great Debaters
The Bucket List
Juno

I'm pretty sure AVPR will over top those movies
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Gazz on Dec 24, 2007, 01:01:58 AM
40 mil opening (probably 80 in domestic and around 150-160 as worldwide total)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Dec 24, 2007, 01:03:42 AM
Well, we can throw Sweeny Todd out of the competition, because that failed massively this weekend.

Proves that BO is pretty unpredictable. AVPR could do extremely well past expectations, or it could also massively fail.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 24, 2007, 01:07:03 AM
If I wasn't a fan, and I strolled into a cinema and saw what was on, I probably would choose AVP-R over Sweeny Todd, what's better, weird twisted with humans or Alien being fighting each other, with people getting owned in the middle. 
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Gazz on Dec 24, 2007, 01:07:25 AM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 24, 2007, 01:03:42 AM
Well, we can throw Sweeny Todd out of the competition, because that failed massively this weekend.

Proves that BO is pretty unpredictable. AVPR could do extremely well past expectations, or it could also massively fail.

Sweeny Todd was released on only 1200 theatres (against the usual 3000+ for big budget movies) earning over $7000 per theatre. Hardly a box office disater huh.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Daweism on Dec 24, 2007, 01:08:17 AM
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Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: That Yellow Alien on Dec 24, 2007, 01:08:41 AM
Didn't know that. Is it getting a wider release?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 01:09:40 AM
If i wans't fan then i would go see AVPR over the other movies because it looks good.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Gazz on Dec 24, 2007, 01:10:58 AM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 24, 2007, 01:08:41 AM
Didn't know that. Is it getting a wider release?

I beleive so. When movies that are marketed torwards a niche audiance they are usually released limited and rely on positive word of mouth in order to build box office momentum. Todd looks to be a hit amongst its fans so expect it todwindle around the charts for a while.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Daweism on Dec 24, 2007, 01:15:18 AM
Quote from: Gazz on Dec 24, 2007, 01:07:25 AM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 24, 2007, 01:03:42 AM
Well, we can throw Sweeny Todd out of the competition, because that failed massively this weekend.

Proves that BO is pretty unpredictable. AVPR could do extremely well past expectations, or it could also massively fail.

Sweeny Todd was released on only 1200 theatres (against the usual 3000+ for big budget movies) earning over $7000 per theatre. Hardly a box office disater huh.

Cuz its damned musical.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 24, 2007, 01:20:11 AM
Quote from: Daweism on Dec 24, 2007, 01:15:18 AM
Quote from: Gazz on Dec 24, 2007, 01:07:25 AM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 24, 2007, 01:03:42 AM
Well, we can throw Sweeny Todd out of the competition, because that failed massively this weekend.

Proves that BO is pretty unpredictable. AVPR could do extremely well past expectations, or it could also massively fail.

Sweeny Todd was released on only 1200 theatres (against the usual 3000+ for big budget movies) earning over $7000 per theatre. Hardly a box office disater huh.

Cuz its damned musical.

Is it? eeeewwwwwwwww I wanted to watch that, now I don't I hate musicals, thanks for warning me.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 01:20:47 AM
I woun't see it because i hate musicals (They put me to sleep).
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: holdtheline on Dec 24, 2007, 01:38:46 PM
I think 90m total in the US, and another 100m worldwide, should do quite well, hopefully..
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: marrerom on Dec 24, 2007, 02:21:47 PM
i'm just curious. what would it take for this movie to qualify as a box office failure?  under 30 mil? do we even know what the budget was?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: gases on Dec 24, 2007, 03:06:54 PM
The funny thing is, a lot of you would have loved AVPR a lot more than you would if you weren't hardcore fans on this site. Not me because a lot of the negativity is setting/nitpicking.

Damn i hope this does well.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: WhySoSerious on Dec 24, 2007, 03:08:47 PM
Going to be a close one but since AVP is starting tomorrow it might make more, especially with the die hards fans that are willing to show up at midnight tonight here in NYC.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 24, 2007, 03:12:40 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 24, 2007, 01:07:03 AM
If I wasn't a fan, and I strolled into a cinema and saw what was on, I probably would choose AVP-R over Sweeny Todd, what's better, weird twisted with humans or Alien being fighting each other, with people getting owned in the middle. 

Sweeny Todd every time.  Anyone who's ever studied English literature should know the name of Sweeny Todd.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 24, 2007, 03:19:12 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 24, 2007, 03:12:40 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 24, 2007, 01:07:03 AM
If I wasn't a fan, and I strolled into a cinema and saw what was on, I probably would choose AVP-R over Sweeny Todd, what's better, weird twisted with humans or Alien being fighting each other, with people getting owned in the middle. 

Sweeny Todd every time.  Anyone who's ever studied English literature should know the name of Sweeny Todd.
He's awesome, I've got the BBC version on DvD.

If I wasn't a fan I would choose I Am Legend over AvP-R, just for Will Smith.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: O.W.L.F. on Dec 24, 2007, 03:28:36 PM
hope that AvP R will conquer 100m usd in US box office.....for the first time ine the series....
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: No Tail on Dec 24, 2007, 03:52:24 PM
I say it'll make between 40-45 million opening week/weekend.  Not really sure about internationally but I'm damn sure that it'll do well, I mean I'm going to see it tomorrow.  Merry Christmas for me!
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Foundationman2 on Dec 24, 2007, 04:00:17 PM
If it doesnt surpass the film's original budget, isn't it a failure?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: No Tail on Dec 24, 2007, 04:04:46 PM
^ Uh, yeah :(

(100th post!!!)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Pred-Xeno on Dec 24, 2007, 04:10:59 PM
Quote from: WhySoSerious on Dec 24, 2007, 03:08:47 PM
Going to be a close one but since AVP is starting tomorrow it might make more, especially with the die hards fans that are willing to show up at midnight tonight here in NYC.
I'm 45 minutes away but I can't go I have to stay home for Christmas today but I'm going to see tomorrow as soon as I wake up and probably go in the morning when no one's there.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Porkus Maximus on Dec 24, 2007, 04:34:00 PM
QuoteHe's awesome, I've got the BBC version on DvD.

Is that the Ray Winstone one?  If so then yeah it's fantastic and I've been meaning to get it on DVD myself.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Venenoso on Dec 24, 2007, 04:44:01 PM
It's actually kinda exiting, because we know that if AvPR fails at the BO, Alien & Predator = dead   

Don't think that's gonna happen though. But we can't really compare AvP & AvPR, since AvP had a much bigger budget... AvPR won't have to make as much money in order to be a financial success, so even if it doesn't 'beat' AvP, it can still be a success. 

Since I don't live in the states I gotta as someone here; did AvP have more advertisements than AvPR has had so far..??
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 24, 2007, 04:50:05 PM
AVP ads were all over the place before it came out over here. That's why I've found this to be such a significant change in marketing. Colin says it's because they don't have the budget for an outdoor campaign, so they're spending it on TV spots.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: No Tail on Dec 24, 2007, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: Venenoso on Dec 24, 2007, 04:44:01 PM
It's actually kinda exiting, because we know that if AvPR fails at the BO, Alien & Predator = dead  

Don't think that's gonna happen though. But we can't really compare AvP & AvPR, since AvP had a much bigger budget... AvPR won't have to make as much money in order to be a financial success, so even if it doesn't 'beat' AvP, it can still be a success. 

Since I don't live in the states I gotta as someone here; did AvP have more advertisements than AvPR has had so far..??

No,  when I think about it, the day befoe I seen AVP I didn't know as much as I did about as I do with AVPR, so I'd say advertisement wasn't too much for AVP.[
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: JediMasterConor on Dec 24, 2007, 04:55:51 PM
If it's budget is really $40million or around that. I think it'll make it all back domestically by the end of the weekend
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Dec 24, 2007, 05:25:19 PM
budget is really around $40million-it is GOOD!!!

25-28 decembri-18.000.000 million.
+
29-1 Janvari-22.000.000 million.

In results-60.000.000 millin it a tremendous gift for New Year!!!

It can and not count on the best, because Christmas, raiting R and many movies in the box office.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: TheAncientEnemy on Dec 24, 2007, 05:51:57 PM
The death of Alien and Predator happened long ago and the money made off of this movie won't do anything to change that.

If anything, the lower budget for this movie should tell you that Fox will continue to lower the budget on these flicks (they aren't "films" to me) in order to continue making a profit. AVP3 will be straight to video because that's the only way they will be able to market this franchise.

I wish people would stop asking for more Alien and Predator movies. You're just encouraging Fox to parade the corpses of the series on the big screen for profit. People whine and complain about how bad these movies are and yet they keep asking for more. Seeing these guys on the big screen isn't enough, guys... it has to be done tastefully. However, that will never happen thanks to everyone who goes to see these things regardless. Fox knows that they needn't put any effort into these installments because suckers will fork over the cash no matter what. You think that paying money to see the lame SEQUEL to a terrible movie will somehow convince the guys at Fox that they should turn around and make something worthwhile? What kind of sense does that make?

If you think that if this movie does well then it will usher in a new generation of great Alien or Predator films then you are sadly mistaken. Nothing Fox has done in the past decade gives us any indication that this corporation has the integrity for anything but reaping profit at any expense.

But hey, who am I. Go ahead and see the movie... and hey, enjoy the next one too. You know you'll see it.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Flaming Firefox on Dec 24, 2007, 07:33:39 PM
I think it will tank at the box office this week getting only meager earnings, simply because your non-hardcore fans aren't going to want to go watch a gruesome vs. movie on Christmas. Not to mention it has some stiff competition with I Am Legend, and National Treasure 2. I never really understood them putting this out at Christmas when it would have done much better around Halloween. Another hit they will take is from people who have seen enough clips on the net already they want to wait for it to come to DVD, coupled with the bad reviews... :'(

Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 24, 2007, 07:41:33 PM
But you guys are FORGETTING, they aren't advertising it as a gorefest, did you see anything bad in any trailers besides the red band, which was released on the internet, and not as a tv ad?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Flaming Firefox on Dec 24, 2007, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 24, 2007, 07:41:33 PM
But you guys are FORGETTING, they aren't advertising it as a gorefest, did you see anything bad in any trailers besides the red band, which was released on the internet, and not as a tv ad?

All you have to do is look at the rating though

QuoteMPAA Rating: R for violence, gore and language.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Spidey3121 on Dec 24, 2007, 07:50:24 PM
Let's predict... 48 million through the weekend. I don't know... it still pisses me off that Fox blew the chance on the 1st film. It could have been a real smash hit but Fox didn't invest what they should have into it (not in terms of $). That film could have pulled over a hundred if it was fleshed out by 10-15 mins of action. That is my thought on the matter anyways. After it's 38 million 1st weekend it dropped to 12 million the 2nd + 4 million the 3rd.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Flaming Firefox on Dec 24, 2007, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 24, 2007, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: Flaming Firefox on Dec 24, 2007, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 24, 2007, 07:41:33 PM
But you guys are FORGETTING, they aren't advertising it as a gorefest, did you see anything bad in any trailers besides the red band, which was released on the internet, and not as a tv ad?

All you have to do is look at the rating though

QuoteMPAA Rating: R for violence, gore and language.

It doesn't say that in the tv ads, just the "R-rated" banner.

Right. I'm just saying even your average Jo movie-goer can quickly jump on the net to check out some info on the film and find that out. I usually do a little research on all the movies I go to even the ones I've not already a big fan of.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: WisePredator on Dec 24, 2007, 08:11:59 PM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 24, 2007, 04:34:00 PM
QuoteHe's awesome, I've got the BBC version on DvD.

Is that the Ray Winstone one?  If so then yeah it's fantastic and I've been meaning to get it on DVD myself.
Yep, that's the one.


Sweeney Todd is number 2 on my favourite anti-heroes list.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Dec 24, 2007, 10:12:48 PM
December 28 - 30

1. National Treasure: Book of Secrets (Disney) - $40.5 million - 11%

2. I Am Legend (Warner Bros.) - $28.0 million - 18%

3. Alvin and the Chipmunks (Fox) - $24.6 million - 16%

4. Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (Fox) - $17.8 million N/A  :o :o :o (I hope)

5. The Water Horse (Sony) - $10.8 million N/A

6. Charlie Wilson’s War (Universal) - $10.6 million +10%

7. Sweeney Todd (DreamWorks) - $7.8 million - 17%

8. The Great Debaters (The Weinstein Co.) $7.6 million N/A

9. P.S. I Love You (Warner Bros.) - $7.5 million +15%

10. Juno (Fox Searchlight) - $5.4 million +59%
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 24, 2007, 10:27:03 PM
^^ I hope as well  :).
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: TheAncientEnemy on Dec 25, 2007, 01:19:50 AM
Please direct your attention below:

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Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Invisible Darkness on Dec 25, 2007, 01:39:30 AM
Opening week: $37 Million     Number 1 at the box office.

After 2 weeks in, it should surpass its' budget and then some.

My overall box office prediction, or I should say world wide is: between $155 million to 195 Million.

All in all this movie will be a success, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: MattTaz on Dec 25, 2007, 02:12:12 AM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 24, 2007, 01:01:16 AM
Regardless of how the fans feel, the general public LIKED AVP.

Exactly. Fanboys are only a small percentage of the viewing public. AVP made a $100 million profit I think. 5 million plus people saw it worldwide, if not more. How many people regularly visit this site? 1,000? 2,000? Where a very tiny minority and very nitpicky.

Fox is a business. A movie business, but a business nonetheless. If a movie makes a huge profit you'd have to be a dipstick not to make more. If a sequel makes money then there going to greenlight AVP3 in Space, which is where Xenomorphs belong. And who knows, after that we may see a standalone Predator film. Yes the movie budgets will get smaller but that's life. This isn't the Star Wars franchise. It ain't THAT popular  :)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Craig on Dec 25, 2007, 02:28:42 AM
Quote from: TheAncientEnemy on Dec 25, 2007, 01:19:50 AM
Please direct your attention below:
Hahaha thats great!
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Miranasi on Dec 25, 2007, 03:23:11 AM
Oh can i hope? It'll fail admirably.....  ;D and no more AVP3 for us... yay!
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Bending Light Warrior on Dec 25, 2007, 04:38:29 AM
I think AVPR will be either 2nd or 3rd after this week. I didn't like I am A Legend that much. It could have been better, but I am surprised it is #2 this week with 34 mil. I think AVPR will finish this week with 40 mil.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Dec 26, 2007, 08:47:53 AM
Quote from: Invisible Darkness on Dec 25, 2007, 01:39:30 AM
Opening week: $37 Million     Number 1 at the box office.

After 2 weeks in, it should surpass its' budget and then some.

My overall box office prediction, or I should say world wide is: between $155 million to 195 Million.

All in all this movie will be a success, in my opinion.

Will be:

Number 1-National Treasure
Number 2-I am Legend
Number 3-Alvin and the Chipmunks
Nember 4-AvPR
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Space Disc Jockey on Dec 26, 2007, 08:56:57 AM
It will do A LOT better than AVP. I can't predict how much it will make though. It will be either number 1 or number 2 at the box office, I think.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Dasani on Dec 26, 2007, 09:11:03 AM
It'll do good for a few more days, then fail.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Dec 26, 2007, 09:46:23 AM
The first data

1. NEW - National Treasure: Book of Secrets (Disney) — $14.75M, $2,639 PTA [$68.1M cume]
2. NEW - Alien vs. Predator: Requiem - $9.48M, $3,700 PTA [$9.48M cume] GREAT!!!
3. I Am Legend (Warner Bros.) — $8.85M, $2,445 PTA [$151.1M cume]
4. Alvin and the Chipmunks (Fox) — $6.66M, $1,905 PTA [$95.3M cume]
5. NEW Charlie Wilson's War (Universal) — $4.16M, $1,617 PTA [$15.82M cume]
6. NEW - The Great Debaters (Weinstein/MGM) - $3.49M, $3,000 PTA [$3.49M cume]
7. NEW Sweeney Todd (Dreamworks/Paramount) — $2.82M, $2,261 PTA [$13.29M cume]
8. Juno (Fox Searchlight) - $2.31M, $2,325 PTA [$9.2M cume]
9. NEW - The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep (Sony) - $2.25M, $810 PTA [$2.25M cume]
10. NEW P.S. I Love You (Warner Bros.) — $1.92M, $786 PTA [$9.1M cume]
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 26, 2007, 09:49:03 AM
Nice amount for the first day.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: washderice on Dec 26, 2007, 09:52:07 AM
it led in per theater average for the top 10 movies as well. great sign. i will be seeing it again as well.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 26, 2007, 10:16:25 AM
A $10mill start is great. It should repeat that today, before dropping off, then having a solid weekend. It could be looking at over $40million come monday.

Tad unfortunate as well, with critic reviews being so damning and word-of-mouth among general cinema-goers being mixed. Has the potential to outdo the first AvP, but I don't think it will now.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Dec 26, 2007, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Dec 26, 2007, 10:16:25 AM
A $10mill start is great. It should repeat that today, before dropping off, then having a solid weekend. It could be looking at over $40million come monday.

Tad unfortunate as well, with critic reviews being so damning and word-of-mouth among general cinema-goers being mixed. Has the potential to outdo the first AvP, but I don't think it will now.
I think monday he will have 45-50 millions. May be 80-85 total.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: SuicideDoors on Dec 26, 2007, 11:08:12 AM
It's not gonna do 80mill unless miraculously all the good reviews start pouring in next week. It's limited by its R-Rating, word-of-mouth isn't gonna be great, and it's common for movies like this to fall off big in their second weeks anyway.

Still, looks like their was some intelligence behind this on Fox's behalf after all. It'll probably be sitting pretty on $20mill come Thursday morning, something it wouldn't have done if it was released in the Summer.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Dec 26, 2007, 11:25:41 AM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Dec 26, 2007, 11:08:12 AM
It's not gonna do 80mill unless miraculously all the good reviews start pouring in next week. It's limited by its R-Rating, word-of-mouth isn't gonna be great, and it's common for movies like this to fall off big in their second weeks anyway.

Still, looks like their was some intelligence behind this on Fox's behalf after all. It'll probably be sitting pretty on $20mill come Thursday morning, something it wouldn't have done if it was released in the Summer.

25-28-20-25 millions.
29-1-30-35 millions.
2-31-20 millions.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Necronomicon on Dec 26, 2007, 03:43:42 PM
Quote from: Ok7 on Dec 26, 2007, 09:46:23 AM
The first data

1. NEW - National Treasure: Book of Secrets (Disney) — $14.75M, $2,639 PTA [$68.1M cume]
2. NEW - Alien vs. Predator: Requiem - $9.48M, $3,700 PTA [$9.48M cume] GREAT!!!
3. I Am Legend (Warner Bros.) — $8.85M, $2,445 PTA [$151.1M cume]
4. Alvin and the Chipmunks (Fox) — $6.66M, $1,905 PTA [$95.3M cume]
5. NEW Charlie Wilson's War (Universal) — $4.16M, $1,617 PTA [$15.82M cume]
6. NEW - The Great Debaters (Weinstein/MGM) - $3.49M, $3,000 PTA [$3.49M cume]
7. NEW Sweeney Todd (Dreamworks/Paramount) — $2.82M, $2,261 PTA [$13.29M cume]
8. Juno (Fox Searchlight) - $2.31M, $2,325 PTA [$9.2M cume]
9. NEW - The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep (Sony) - $2.25M, $810 PTA [$2.25M cume]
10. NEW P.S. I Love You (Warner Bros.) — $1.92M, $786 PTA [$9.1M cume]


This does not surprise me one bit. I went to see the movie twice at some of the biggest theaters in town, the first showing was sold out, then subsequent ones... there were lines all the way to the concession stands for this movie, both times and one time was in the early afternoon, the other at night.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: marrerom on Dec 26, 2007, 03:46:21 PM
is 9 mil on the first day really good?  thats sounds awfully low to me...how much did the first avp make on its opening day?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:20:39 PM
Quote from: marrerom on Dec 26, 2007, 03:46:21 PM
is 9 mil on the first day really good?  thats sounds awfully low to me...how much did the first avp make on its opening day?

With AvP also there is nothing to compare.

1) AvP have 3, 401 cinemas, AvPR have only 2,563.
2) AvP to much has not liked, therefore AvPR many and do not wish to look.
3) Many movies in Box Office.
4) Christmas.
5) AvP has left friday, but AvPR in tuesday.

So 9 millions is it is very good, should be no more than 5 millions.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ALL-TIME TOP SINGLE DAY CHRISTMAS OPENING DAY GROSSES
1. Ali — $10.2 million
2. Catch Me If You Can — $9.8 million
3. Alien vs. Predator: Requiem — $9.48 million (Estimate)
4. Patch Adams — $8 million
5. Cheaper By the Dozen — $7.8 million
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: YutaniDitch on Dec 26, 2007, 05:29:48 PM
Quote from: marrerom on Dec 26, 2007, 03:46:21 PM
is 9 mil on the first day really good?  thats sounds awfully low to me...how much did the first avp make on its opening day?


http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=avp.htm

38 million on first weekend...then, as in most movies, it starts decreasing...ones more rapidly than others... ;)


Oh, and as a curiosity, how much AVP did on most countries:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=avp.htm

;)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Brickipedia on Dec 26, 2007, 05:30:46 PM
According to Movies.com it is the third highest grossing christmas premier ever
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: YutaniDitch on Dec 26, 2007, 05:32:47 PM
Quote from: Ok7 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:20:39 PM
Quote from: marrerom on Dec 26, 2007, 03:46:21 PM
is 9 mil on the first day really good?  thats sounds awfully low to me...how much did the first avp make on its opening day?

With AvP also there is nothing to compare.

1) AvP have 3, 401 cinemas, AvPR have only 2,563.
2) AvP to much has not liked, therefore AvPR many and do not wish to look.
3) Many movies in Box Office.
4) Christmas.
5) AvP has left friday, but AvPR in tuesday.

So 9 millions is it is very good, should be no more than 5 millions.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ALL-TIME TOP SINGLE DAY CHRISTMAS OPENING DAY GROSSES
1. Ali — $10.2 million
2. Catch Me If You Can — $9.8 million
3. Alien vs. Predator: Requiem — $9.48 million (Estimate)
4. Patch Adams — $8 million
5. Cheaper By the Dozen — $7.8 million


Uau... above Patch Adams and below Catch Me If You Can...Then this will be a definite BO hit!  ::)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: chrisr232007 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:44:10 PM
Ali made close to 60 million total, patach adams made around 135 million, cheaper by the dozen made close to 140 million, and catch me if you can made almost 165 million

So if that trend of a good christmas oping day equals BO sucess keeps up than  AVP-R should do great i say around 80 to 90 million.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 26, 2007, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: Brickipedia on Dec 26, 2007, 05:30:46 PM
According to Movies.com it is the third highest grossing christmas premier ever

Wow really?
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: YutaniDitch on Dec 26, 2007, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:44:10 PM
Ali made close to 60 million total, patach adams made around 135 million, cheaper by the dozen made close to 140 million, and catch me if you can made almost 165 million

So if that trend of a good christmas oping day equals BO sucess keeps up than  AVP-R should do great i say around 80 to 90 million.

Catch Me If You Can - PG-13

(Patch Adams + Cheaper by the Dozen) + PG-13 + Christmas =  ::)

Ali - rest my case here...! ;D

;)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ok7 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:56:35 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:44:10 PM
Ali made close to 60 million total, patach adams made around 135 million, cheaper by the dozen made close to 140 million, and catch me if you can made almost 165 million

So if that trend of a good christmas oping day equals BO sucess keeps up than  AVP-R should do great i say around 80 to 90 million.
It agree 100%!!!! 8)
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: WhySoSerious on Dec 26, 2007, 05:57:38 PM
Well, they hopefully will make back their budget, well, above it.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: chrisr232007 on Dec 26, 2007, 06:00:47 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Dec 26, 2007, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:44:10 PM
Ali made close to 60 million total, patach adams made around 135 million, cheaper by the dozen made close to 140 million, and catch me if you can made almost 165 million

So if that trend of a good christmas oping day equals BO sucess keeps up than  AVP-R should do great i say around 80 to 90 million.

Catch Me If You Can - PG-13

(Patch Adams + Cheaper by the Dozen) + PG-13 + Christmas =  ::)

Ali - rest my case here...! ;D

;)


the rating dont matter, adults and kids are seeing if no matter the rating
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 26, 2007, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Dec 26, 2007, 06:00:47 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Dec 26, 2007, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:44:10 PM
Ali made close to 60 million total, patach adams made around 135 million, cheaper by the dozen made close to 140 million, and catch me if you can made almost 165 million

So if that trend of a good christmas oping day equals BO sucess keeps up than  AVP-R should do great i say around 80 to 90 million.

Catch Me If You Can - PG-13

(Patch Adams + Cheaper by the Dozen) + PG-13 + Christmas =  ::)

Ali - rest my case here...! ;D

;)


the rating dont matter, adults and kids are seeing if no matter the rating

That true, when i saw the movie last night i saw a mom with a baby and a group of kids.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Invisible Darkness on Dec 26, 2007, 06:18:50 PM
I will stick with my $37 million for opening week.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: severen76 on Dec 26, 2007, 06:19:55 PM
  >:(
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Dec 26, 2007, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Dec 26, 2007, 06:00:47 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Dec 26, 2007, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:44:10 PM
Ali made close to 60 million total, patach adams made around 135 million, cheaper by the dozen made close to 140 million, and catch me if you can made almost 165 million

So if that trend of a good christmas oping day equals BO sucess keeps up than  AVP-R should do great i say around 80 to 90 million.

Catch Me If You Can - PG-13

(Patch Adams + Cheaper by the Dozen) + PG-13 + Christmas =  ::)

Ali - rest my case here...! ;D

;)


the rating dont matter, adults and kids are seeing if no matter the rating

That true, when i saw the movie last night i saw a mom with a baby and a group of kids.

A baby   ::) nothing like a brat crying to really make a film complete
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Spidey3121 on Dec 26, 2007, 06:44:07 PM
The best was when @ the 1st AvP i saw a grandma with 2 grandchildren @ the midnight showing.
Title: Re: Box Office
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Dec 26, 2007, 07:54:19 PM
Quote from: severen76 on Dec 26, 2007, 06:19:55 PM
  >:(
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Dec 26, 2007, 06:15:01 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Dec 26, 2007, 06:00:47 PM
Quote from: YutaniDitch on Dec 26, 2007, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:44:10 PM
Ali made close to 60 million total, patach adams made around 135 million, cheaper by the dozen made close to 140 million, and catch me if you can made almost 165 million

So if that trend of a good christmas oping day equals BO sucess keeps up than  AVP-R should do great i say around 80 to 90 million.

Catch Me If You Can - PG-13

(Patch Adams + Cheaper by the Dozen) + PG-13 + Christmas =  ::)

Ali - rest my case here...! ;D

;)


the rating dont matter, adults and kids are seeing if no matter the rating

That true, when i saw the movie last night i saw a mom with a baby and a group of kids.

A baby   ::) nothing like a brat crying to really make a film complete

One the possive side the movie wans't crying unlike most movies.