Posted by Vertigo
- Oct 05, 2014, 10:35:45 PMQuote from: Queen7 on Oct 05, 2014, 10:28:49 PMalien egg latte
I really need some sleep.
Posted by Space7Horror
- Oct 05, 2014, 10:28:49 PMQuote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 05, 2014, 02:35:43 PMQuote from: Queen7 on Aug 24, 2014, 07:45:30 PM
The way egg morphing works makes the Alien less productive the way I see it. It's a really creepy concept that I wish they went into a little more, but having the alien turn a person into an egg then have another person be impregnated to die just seems like to much to reproduce. Cocconing a person then having a queen lay eggs is more productive since the alien could itself turn into a queen. Egg morphing could be a solution when the alien is all alone though like in the movie Alien and is not sure if transforming into a queen is the safest idea.
Like SM, I've been saying for years that the two methods are not mutually exclusive: Egg transformation could be done to create a Queen in an emergency situation. The result then allows for normal reproduction. Presumably, in 'Alien', the creature was hedging its bets and creating two, just in case one had been killed during the vulnerable implantation.
I used to like the idea of any adult being able to become one. It was realised well in Perry's adaptation of the first graphic novel, in prose. But ever since 'Alien 3', we know that specialised facehuggers impregnate a host with a Queen. If any adult could become one, there'd be no biological reason for that. So, really, this goes all the way back to 'Alien 3... If it hadn't been for that, the 'adult-becomes-Queen' theory could still stand (and transforming hosts into eggs would be seen as a preliminary in-between stage of its development).
On the topic of an adult alien turning into a queen, I read that cameron stated one of the first aliens to emerge becomes a queen. Could this be taken into perspective that a baby alien has a chance of becoming a queen before it matures? I look at it this way in order for there to be a queen more than one alien needs to be present at a time. I think this works with all the films, the aliens egg morph to create another alien or a queen facehugger egg, with the latter being most likley.
Posted by Xenomorphine
- Oct 05, 2014, 02:35:43 PMQuote from: Queen7 on Aug 24, 2014, 07:45:30 PM
The way egg morphing works makes the Alien less productive the way I see it. It's a really creepy concept that I wish they went into a little more, but having the alien turn a person into an egg then have another person be impregnated to die just seems like to much to reproduce. Cocconing a person then having a queen lay eggs is more productive since the alien could itself turn into a queen. Egg morphing could be a solution when the alien is all alone though like in the movie Alien and is not sure if transforming into a queen is the safest idea.
Like SM, I've been saying for years that the two methods are not mutually exclusive: Egg transformation could be done to create a Queen in an emergency situation. The result then allows for normal reproduction. Presumably, in 'Alien', the creature was hedging its bets and creating two, just in case one had been killed during the vulnerable implantation.
I used to like the idea of any adult being able to become one. It was realised well in Perry's adaptation of the first graphic novel, in prose. But ever since 'Alien 3', we know that specialised facehuggers impregnate a host with a Queen. If any adult could become one, there'd be no biological reason for that. So, really, this goes all the way back to 'Alien 3... If it hadn't been for that, the 'adult-becomes-Queen' theory could still stand (and transforming hosts into eggs would be seen as a preliminary in-between stage of its development).
Posted by HuDaFuK
- Oct 05, 2014, 12:27:54 PMI've said it before, but I do love that they've used those symbols - and other new Cobb-styled ones - for the trophy icons.
Posted by 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯
- Oct 05, 2014, 12:25:06 PMQuote from: rabidninja64 on Oct 05, 2014, 09:49:06 AM
And here's my off topic piece:
Has anyone else noticed the purina logo on all the doors?
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121221171111/logopedia/images/a/a9/Purina.png
even in the films! SPACE ALIEN CHOW!!!
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ky4eysgePS1qb78wao1_500.png
It's similar but not the same. The "hazard warning sign" from Alien has four little red squares with rounded corners on the outside and one large square in the middle. The Purina logo is just a red & white checkered background.
Here's the rest of the Nostromo's signage.
Posted by HuDaFuK
- Oct 05, 2014, 12:23:08 PMQuote from: rabidninja64 on Oct 05, 2014, 09:49:06 AMIn essence, the xeno wouldnt particularly drag people off to god-knows where for no random reason. Naturally, if the directors cut had been canon, then it'd make more sense because of them being the catalyst for the egg transformation process.
Even without the DC, the Aliens could well still be cocooning people off-screen. Like SM says, plenty of victims get taken and never reappear.
Posted by SM
- Oct 05, 2014, 10:20:24 AMQuoteIn essence, the xeno wouldnt particularly drag people off to god-knows where for no random reason.
Except Brett, Dallas, Clemens, or Andrews.
Posted by rabidninja64
- Oct 05, 2014, 09:49:06 AMBefore i go off topic, ill chip in my 2 cents.
In essence, the xeno wouldnt particularly drag people off to god-knows where for no random reason. Naturally, if the directors cut had been canon, then it'd make more sense because of them being the catalyst for the egg transformation process. since it was cut, my only explanation is that it's acting in a way a lone, vunerable but also deadly creature would. violently. Regardless, they probably posed a threat to the xeno, culminating in a on-the-spot impalement or dance in the dark.
And here's my off topic piece:
Has anyone else noticed the purina logo on all the doors?
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121221171111/logopedia/images/a/a9/Purina.png
even in the films! SPACE ALIEN CHOW!!!
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ky4eysgePS1qb78wao1_500.png
In essence, the xeno wouldnt particularly drag people off to god-knows where for no random reason. Naturally, if the directors cut had been canon, then it'd make more sense because of them being the catalyst for the egg transformation process. since it was cut, my only explanation is that it's acting in a way a lone, vunerable but also deadly creature would. violently. Regardless, they probably posed a threat to the xeno, culminating in a on-the-spot impalement or dance in the dark.
Spoiler
Also, in terms of gameplay/storyline, there is a part where a certain doctor helps you out, but wants you to get something for him, knowing full well the xeno is on that level. You retrieve, you come back, scold him for it, and as he opens elevator access, he's about to come out but the xeno is on the other side of the door. creeps towards him a lil, then snatch & grab into the dark..
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And here's my off topic piece:
Has anyone else noticed the purina logo on all the doors?
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121221171111/logopedia/images/a/a9/Purina.png
even in the films! SPACE ALIEN CHOW!!!
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ky4eysgePS1qb78wao1_500.png
Posted by SizzyBubbles
- Oct 02, 2014, 08:51:59 PMHe leaves them there as a warning to all the other humans X)
Posted by Predatorium
- Sep 21, 2014, 02:04:30 PMComon cut the alien some slack, he's working overtime to kill all the people on the station. There must be hundreds or thousands.
Posted by genozide
- Sep 21, 2014, 12:12:08 PMI think bodies here and there would bother the species of the corpses and that's the point by the alien. Does it have one or not? Who can tell?
It might be striving to survive either on the station or through a possible escape. Maybe it's reacting tactically towards what the humans are thinking? Maybe it seeks out alternatives with what it does to implement the most chaos? "Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."
I don't personally care much about the eggmorphing idea either. The onetime queen facehugger egg by drone idea seems legit but it would also need the best opportunity for the alien and it's like ripley, i suppose, figuring out what to do at the time of events.
The mystery of not knowing how they do certain things is one of the things that makes them special as an alien being. Persistent damage and bodies is what i love seeing in games. The idea of corpses fading away or environment healing itself has always bothered me in many games. If they're on your path showing pain, despair and fear or getting snatched last minute or in some other way surprising you it adds to the atmosphere of the game story.
I wonder if some of the characters you get to know more and relate to will die in the most horrible way?
It might be striving to survive either on the station or through a possible escape. Maybe it's reacting tactically towards what the humans are thinking? Maybe it seeks out alternatives with what it does to implement the most chaos? "Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."
I don't personally care much about the eggmorphing idea either. The onetime queen facehugger egg by drone idea seems legit but it would also need the best opportunity for the alien and it's like ripley, i suppose, figuring out what to do at the time of events.
The mystery of not knowing how they do certain things is one of the things that makes them special as an alien being. Persistent damage and bodies is what i love seeing in games. The idea of corpses fading away or environment healing itself has always bothered me in many games. If they're on your path showing pain, despair and fear or getting snatched last minute or in some other way surprising you it adds to the atmosphere of the game story.
I wonder if some of the characters you get to know more and relate to will die in the most horrible way?
Posted by Vrastal
- Sep 20, 2014, 11:09:45 PMI hope i can find hires scans of that book..
Anyways. I never cared fro the idea of them being weapons, i like the idea that they are natural creatures. never cared for the egg-morphing idea much either.
Anyways. I never cared fro the idea of them being weapons, i like the idea that they are natural creatures. never cared for the egg-morphing idea much either.
Posted by 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯
- Sep 07, 2014, 02:01:08 PMThe new forthcoming canon bible from Fox, the "Weyland Yutani Report" (aka the SMXLTM) seems to confirm the possibility that a drone or worker could transform into an egg producer. Whether "egg producer" literally means a Queen or simply that they could gain the ability to "egg morph" I do not know.
Posted by Space7Horror
- Sep 07, 2014, 01:05:56 PMCameron said that one of the first Aliens to emerge in Hadley's Hope grew to become a queen. I say that since there was more than one Alien present at the moment that the oldest one was able to morph into a queen. The theory I'm thinking of is that if there is a single Alien it can't become a queen without another Alien present as it would be left too vulnerable during its transformation, so the Alien will resort to eggmorphing in order to produce an egg that will most likely carry a queen facehugger or a regular one depending on the Alien who eggmorphed the person. So in order for a queen to come about there needs to be more than one Alien present at a time.
Posted by PsyKore
- Sep 07, 2014, 09:57:14 AMDoesn't it come from the EU where they turn into Queens? I know the AvP games (2010 in particular) show this. But going by Alien 3, a Queen has to be laid by a facehugger and gestated the same way a regular chestburster does. So it fits that a regular Alien could create eggs in order to spawn a Queen.
