Ridley Scott and news about Alien: Paradise Lost is certainly stealing the spotlight at the minute! However, whilst talking to The Daily Beast, promoting his recently released science-fiction film The Martian (which you should go see!) and upcoming Prometheus sequel, Ridley snuck in a little about the Neill Blomkamp Alien sequel that Scott is also producing:
“We have Neill Blomkamp's Alien, which will be out in 2017. We just have the first [screenplay] draft in so far but it looks pretty good.”
This is the first we’ve heard that a complete draft has been done for Alien 5. Surprisingly, Ridley Scott also says that Alien 5 will be released in 2017 which is also the same year that Alien: Paradise Lost is currently due for release.
Thanks to Daz85 for the news.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 05, 2015, 02:53:18 PM:'(
Don't hold your breath.
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Oct 05, 2015, 02:40:17 PMI don't particularly believe Ridley that the intention was to always call the sequel Alien: Paradise Lost, because with the first one they tried to downplay the Alien link so much to just "strands of the same DNA".
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 05, 2015, 03:03:41 PM
Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 05, 2015, 03:03:41 PM
Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Oct 05, 2015, 05:04:02 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 05, 2015, 03:03:41 PM
Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.
I would say that all signs point to likely, but there is always that slim margin.
When that does happen, and chances are it possibly might... we'll see how it goes. I would prefer if he just didn't acknowledge the latter two films, rather than write them off either as dreams or false memory implants.
Don't get me wrong, I love Alien 3... and kind of can deal with Resurrection but I don't think he should touch them, hence given his statements, he's probably going to be ignoring them. But in the end.. does it even really matter? To me, it just means we can really pick and choose and shouldn't be a slave to what's deemed as canon. More camps for fans to be a part of.
Quote from: marrerom on Oct 05, 2015, 04:55:55 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 05, 2015, 03:03:41 PM
Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.
I will be gutted if that actually happens.
QuoteThe Sulaco was boarded shortly after Ripley, Hicks, Bishop and Newt go into hypersleep after the events in Aliens by Weyland Yutani personnel. Ripley and co. are taken prisoner and kept in suspended animation as Weyland Corp studies them. They extract DNA from each of them and clone them(which due to the methods employed, accelerate their natural aging process). These clones are placed back on the Sulaco with eggs so that Weyland can view/record the lifecycle of the Aliens. This explains the events in Alien 3 and Resurrection.
The film begins with Bishop slowly waking Ripley and Hicks along with Newt(who has been recast due to obvious real life aging issues). Bishop explains to Ripley and Hicks that he managed to free them from a top secret Weyland holding facility. He shows them security footage of Weyland extracting their DNA and growing clones of them and then replacing them in the Sulaco with Alien eggs on board.
Bishop manages to find out that LV 426 was indeed the Alien homeworld all along and that Weyland had purposely set up mining colonies there to study the Alien lifecycle before contact was lost with Hadley's Hope. He goes on to explain that they need to nuke the planet from orbit but Bishop has decoded a faint distress signal from somewhere below LV 426's surface.....that of Hudson's. Hicks gathers a team of marines that "can be trusted" and realizes that they must again go back to LV 426 to investigate Hudson's distress signal(and see if he's even alive before they nuke the planet for good).
Once on the planet, they re-enter the Derelict as that's where Hudson's distress signal seems to be coming from. They find new underground tunnels leading to a massive, secret underground Weyland Yutani facility(remember that concept art Blomkamp released? ;) ) where Hudson managed to escape to and is now being held against his will.
Naturally, once they rescue Hudson, they realize they must get back into orbit to nuke the entire planet. More Aliens are let loose from maniacal Weyland scientists along with a Queen and King alien as our heroes must fight their way back up to the planet's surface and get back into orbit to end the nightmare for good.
While this story will probably be dismissed as a bad "fan fiction", the few Alien fans I work with really seem to dig the basic premise of the plot as it simply doesn't dismiss Alien 3 and Resurrection as "bad dreams". Those movies *did* in fact happen but with CLONES of our heroes.
Quote from: LiquidMonster on Oct 05, 2015, 09:03:14 PM
My story idea I posted on here would make Alien 3 and Resurrection fans happy. Basically we find out that Weyland inserted clones of Ripley, Newt and Hicks onto the Sulaco shortly after ALIENS. These clones are whom we see in Alien 3 and Resurrection. Still better than a "bad dream" imho.
Here it is: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=52496.msg2048262#msg2048262QuoteThe Sulaco was boarded shortly after Ripley, Hicks, Bishop and Newt go into hypersleep after the events in Aliens by Weyland Yutani personnel. Ripley and co. are taken prisoner and kept in suspended animation as Weyland Corp studies them. They extract DNA from each of them and clone them(which due to the methods employed, accelerate their natural aging process). These clones are placed back on the Sulaco with eggs so that Weyland can view/record the lifecycle of the Aliens. This explains the events in Alien 3 and Resurrection.
The film begins with Bishop slowly waking Ripley and Hicks along with Newt(who has been recast due to obvious real life aging issues). Bishop explains to Ripley and Hicks that he managed to free them from a top secret Weyland holding facility. He shows them security footage of Weyland extracting their DNA and growing clones of them and then replacing them in the Sulaco with Alien eggs on board.
Bishop manages to find out that LV 426 was indeed the Alien homeworld all along and that Weyland had purposely set up mining colonies there to study the Alien lifecycle before contact was lost with Hadley's Hope. He goes on to explain that they need to nuke the planet from orbit but Bishop has decoded a faint distress signal from somewhere below LV 426's surface.....that of Hudson's. Hicks gathers a team of marines that "can be trusted" and realizes that they must again go back to LV 426 to investigate Hudson's distress signal(and see if he's even alive before they nuke the planet for good).
Once on the planet, they re-enter the Derelict as that's where Hudson's distress signal seems to be coming from. They find new underground tunnels leading to a massive, secret underground Weyland Yutani facility(remember that concept art Blomkamp released? ;) ) where Hudson managed to escape to and is now being held against his will.
Naturally, once they rescue Hudson, they realize they must get back into orbit to nuke the entire planet. More Aliens are let loose from maniacal Weyland scientists along with a Queen and King alien as our heroes must fight their way back up to the planet's surface and get back into orbit to end the nightmare for good.
While this story will probably be dismissed as a bad "fan fiction", the few Alien fans I work with really seem to dig the basic premise of the plot as it simply doesn't dismiss Alien 3 and Resurrection as "bad dreams". Those movies *did* in fact happen but with CLONES of our heroes.
Quote from: LiquidMonster on Oct 05, 2015, 09:03:14 PM
My story idea I posted on here would make Alien 3 and Resurrection fans happy. Basically we find out that Weyland inserted clones of Ripley, Newt and Hicks onto the Sulaco shortly after ALIENS. These clones are whom we see in Alien 3 and Resurrection. Still better than a "bad dream" imho.
Here it is: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=52496.msg2048262#msg2048262QuoteThe Sulaco was boarded shortly after Ripley, Hicks, Bishop and Newt go into hypersleep after the events in Aliens by Weyland Yutani personnel. Ripley and co. are taken prisoner and kept in suspended animation as Weyland Corp studies them. They extract DNA from each of them and clone them(which due to the methods employed, accelerate their natural aging process). These clones are placed back on the Sulaco with eggs so that Weyland can view/record the lifecycle of the Aliens. This explains the events in Alien 3 and Resurrection.
The film begins with Bishop slowly waking Ripley and Hicks along with Newt(who has been recast due to obvious real life aging issues). Bishop explains to Ripley and Hicks that he managed to free them from a top secret Weyland holding facility. He shows them security footage of Weyland extracting their DNA and growing clones of them and then replacing them in the Sulaco with Alien eggs on board.
Bishop manages to find out that LV 426 was indeed the Alien homeworld all along and that Weyland had purposely set up mining colonies there to study the Alien lifecycle before contact was lost with Hadley's Hope. He goes on to explain that they need to nuke the planet from orbit but Bishop has decoded a faint distress signal from somewhere below LV 426's surface.....that of Hudson's. Hicks gathers a team of marines that "can be trusted" and realizes that they must again go back to LV 426 to investigate Hudson's distress signal(and see if he's even alive before they nuke the planet for good).
Once on the planet, they re-enter the Derelict as that's where Hudson's distress signal seems to be coming from. They find new underground tunnels leading to a massive, secret underground Weyland Yutani facility(remember that concept art Blomkamp released? ;) ) where Hudson managed to escape to and is now being held against his will.
Naturally, once they rescue Hudson, they realize they must get back into orbit to nuke the entire planet. More Aliens are let loose from maniacal Weyland scientists along with a Queen and King alien as our heroes must fight their way back up to the planet's surface and get back into orbit to end the nightmare for good.
While this story will probably be dismissed as a bad "fan fiction", the few Alien fans I work with really seem to dig the basic premise of the plot as it simply doesn't dismiss Alien 3 and Resurrection as "bad dreams". Those movies *did* in fact happen but with CLONES of our heroes.
Quote from: LiquidMonster on Oct 05, 2015, 09:03:14 PMMy story idea I posted on here would make Alien 3 and Resurrection fans happy.
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Oct 05, 2015, 08:06:53 PMNeill's off to a great star with District 9, Elysium and Chappie were less than well regarded. Like M. Night Shyamalan he seamed to be on going down hill. Will Alien be Neill's equivalent of M. Night's Last Airbender? I hope to be proven wrong.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 05, 2015, 03:03:41 PM
Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.
Quote from: Alien³ on Oct 11, 2015, 12:16:46 AMDon't talk about storms. Terminator Genisys is still fresh kill you know. :PQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 05, 2015, 03:03:41 PM
Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.
I'm prepared.
Now preparing for the storm thats brewing in some of these threads. :laugh:
Quote from: Alien³ on Oct 11, 2015, 12:16:46 AMIts like the IRA split here Alien 3 fans with the officials.Wait just wait.When alien 5 and its "sequels" come out then we will see who is happyQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 05, 2015, 03:03:41 PM
Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.
I'm prepared.
Now preparing for the storm thats brewing in some of these threads. :laugh:
Quote from: Alien³ on Oct 11, 2015, 12:16:46 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 05, 2015, 03:03:41 PM
Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.
I'm prepared.
Now preparing for the storm thats brewing in some of these threads. :laugh:
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Oct 12, 2015, 04:32:14 PMQuote from: Alien³ on Oct 11, 2015, 12:16:46 AMIts like the IRA split here Alien 3 fans with the officials.Wait just wait.When alien 5 and its "sequels" come out then we will see who is happyQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 05, 2015, 03:03:41 PM
Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.
I'm prepared.
Now preparing for the storm thats brewing in some of these threads. :laugh:
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 13, 2015, 10:33:43 PM
I don't need a sequel; I just want another Aliens movie.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Oct 14, 2015, 01:05:00 AMQuote from: whiterabbit on Oct 13, 2015, 10:33:43 PM
I don't need a sequel; I just want another Aliens movie.
Exactly. New story, new characters.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 14, 2015, 03:26:35 PMOh come on! You're getting 3 new Alien films with new characters from Ridley.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 14, 2015, 03:32:27 PMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 14, 2015, 03:26:35 PMOh come on! You're getting 3 new Alien films with new characters from Ridley.
Except Ridley is apparently also pandering to the living-in-the-past crowd with this alleged "connection to Ripley" bollocks.
So actually, only Black is doing something that isn't shackled to things that happened thirty years ago. And that film's probably years away.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 14, 2015, 04:27:02 PMWe are all a part of a living in the past crowd. Why not new monsters to replace Giger's Alien?
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 14, 2015, 04:27:02 PMI fail to see a justification in disparaging fans of any of these elements over the other.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Oct 14, 2015, 06:30:19 PM
Th characters are dead. My hope is that Blomkamp sees what Ridley is doing and finds another way for humans to come into contact with the Alien. I'm all for another Aliens-esque film but just not with Ripley et al. No matter what the explanation, or ignoring Alien 3 completely, the film will feel 'cheap' to me and completely pointless. It will be the complete bastardisation of Ripley.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 14, 2015, 06:44:09 PMIf we assume that the story of Aliens could have been continued in a better direction...
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 15, 2015, 07:39:28 AMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 14, 2015, 06:44:09 PMIf we assume that the story of Aliens could have been continued in a better direction...
That's a hell of an assumption given the quality of most of the movies since.
There's also the fact the continuation story from the comics is pretty lame.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 15, 2015, 02:10:48 PMI think many if not most fans would disagree.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 15, 2015, 02:32:34 PMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 15, 2015, 02:10:48 PMI think many if not most fans would disagree.
Maybe they would, but as I've said before I just can't understand all the love for the early comics. They may have been ground-breaking in their day, but now they just come across as tired, uninspired and kinda immature. There are other stories from the EU that I find infinitely more engaging.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 15, 2015, 03:19:29 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 15, 2015, 02:32:34 PMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 15, 2015, 02:10:48 PMI think many if not most fans would disagree.
Maybe they would, but as I've said before I just can't understand all the love for the early comics. They may have been ground-breaking in their day, but now they just come across as tired, uninspired and kinda immature. There are other stories from the EU that I find infinitely more engaging.
Whether you feel that other stories or comics from the EU are infinitely more engaging is up to you. That goes without saying because it is an opinion-based statement. It just makes no sense to say that this is a "fact". There are many valid reasons why fans still love the original Aliens comics series. I will revisit that thread where we discussed this some day and I will go through the series to delve deeper into that, but essentially the series covers a large swath of monumental events (infestation of earth, visiting the homeworld) while managing to keep the story very human and on a personal level. It was a monumental comics series in its day.
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Oct 23, 2015, 10:10:03 PMMr Clemens:
I just don't want to see Alien 3 retconned. It was a lovely conclusion, and Sigourney's finest performance in the series.
Alien Resurrection, on the other hand, can take a flying f--- at a rolling donut.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Oct 23, 2015, 10:31:47 PMQuote from: Mr. Clemens on Oct 23, 2015, 10:10:03 PMMr Clemens:
I just don't want to see Alien 3 retconned. It was a lovely conclusion, and Sigourney's finest performance in the series.
Alien Resurrection, on the other hand, can take a flying f--- at a rolling donut.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=never+surrender&view=detailv2&&id=ADDA36AC76349D3F866C5B3FFA409099BF23713B&selectedIndex=22&ccid=HFjmkxsQ&simid=607988312688232216&thid=OIP.M1c58e6931b10c0e42b5f075e3538eec4o0&ajaxhist=0
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Oct 23, 2015, 11:02:44 PMQuote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Oct 23, 2015, 10:31:47 PMQuote from: Mr. Clemens on Oct 23, 2015, 10:10:03 PMMr Clemens:
I just don't want to see Alien 3 retconned. It was a lovely conclusion, and Sigourney's finest performance in the series.
Alien Resurrection, on the other hand, can take a flying f--- at a rolling donut.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=never+surrender&view=detailv2&&id=ADDA36AC76349D3F866C5B3FFA409099BF23713B&selectedIndex=22&ccid=HFjmkxsQ&simid=607988312688232216&thid=OIP.M1c58e6931b10c0e42b5f075e3538eec4o0&ajaxhist=0
Linky no worky.
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Oct 23, 2015, 10:10:03 PMI just don't want to see Alien 3 retconned. It was a lovely conclusion, and Sigourney's finest performance in the series.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 26, 2015, 08:38:44 AMQuote from: Mr. Clemens on Oct 23, 2015, 10:10:03 PMI just don't want to see Alien 3 retconned. It was a lovely conclusion, and Sigourney's finest performance in the series.
I've always thought it ironic that the two weaker films contain by far the best performances from Weaver. She's superb in 3 and Resurrection.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 26, 2015, 08:38:44 AMQuote from: Mr. Clemens on Oct 23, 2015, 10:10:03 PMI just don't want to see Alien 3 retconned. It was a lovely conclusion, and Sigourney's finest performance in the series.
I've always thought it ironic that the two weaker films contain by far the best performances from Weaver. She's superb in 3 and Resurrection.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 26, 2015, 08:38:44 AMThat is true she gave a good performanceQuote from: Mr. Clemens on Oct 23, 2015, 10:10:03 PMI just don't want to see Alien 3 retconned. It was a lovely conclusion, and Sigourney's finest performance in the series.
I've always thought it ironic that the two weaker films contain by far the best performances from Weaver. She's superb in 3 and Resurrection.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Oct 26, 2015, 06:24:43 PMQuote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 26, 2015, 08:38:44 AMThat is true she gave a good performanceQuote from: Mr. Clemens on Oct 23, 2015, 10:10:03 PMI just don't want to see Alien 3 retconned. It was a lovely conclusion, and Sigourney's finest performance in the series.
I've always thought it ironic that the two weaker films contain by far the best performances from Weaver. She's superb in 3 and Resurrection.