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Posted by Elmazalman
 - Jun 27, 2020, 11:32:37 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jun 27, 2020, 11:17:29 PM
I don't have a big dark room or surround sound so detail and dynamic range really ain't gonna optimise anything for me unfortunately  :(
I don't have a big dark room either. The television is in my bedroom ... and it's only a 43-inch screen with a sound bar. So I have to sit up close to appreciate the improved resolution. I'll eventually upgrade to something much bigger.

The exterior planet surface shot, looking through the Nostromo bridge window with Lambert enjoying a cigarette, does look good in 4K.
Posted by SiL
 - Jun 27, 2020, 11:17:29 PM
I don't have a big dark room or surround sound so detail and dynamic range really ain't gonna optimise anything for me unfortunately  :(
Posted by Elmazalman
 - Jun 27, 2020, 10:53:05 PM
I'll take every bit of information that can be squeezed out of the image for optimal viewing.

I hope ALIENS will be just as impressive in 4K when it's finally released.
Posted by SiL
 - Jun 27, 2020, 10:50:58 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Jun 27, 2020, 09:06:51 AM
I must admit I do struggle with 4K. I don't think the jump from 1080p to 4K is all that noticeable than it was from DVD to Blu-ray but it's the HDR that you'll benefit from. Blacks are truly black.

You can always wait for the PS5 and get that as your player.
DVD to Blu was an increase of 6 times resolution, Blu to 4K is only a three times bump and you need large screen to appreciate it.

HDR is a bigger selling point, true. 10bit colour over 8bit colour adds plenty on its own - but as VooDoo says, not really enough unless you're hardcore on picture quality.
Posted by Voodoo Magic
 - Jun 27, 2020, 06:43:20 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Jun 27, 2020, 09:06:51 AM
I must admit I do struggle with 4K. I don't think the jump from 1080p to 4K is all that noticeable than it was from DVD to Blu-ray but it's the HDR that you'll benefit from. Blacks are truly black.

You can always wait for the PS5 and get that as your player.

To me, 4K is only worth it for older movies recorded on film, where you can actually pull extra resolution from celluloid resulting in a more defined image. But even still, it's dependent on the quality of film cameras and film stock used. And out of the Alien and Predator 4K library, I've found the best detail improvements with Predator 2:





Alien:



 

With that said, I must admit a 4K upgrade isn't probably worth it for a general, non-fanatic consumption.
Posted by HuDaFuK
 - Jun 27, 2020, 04:24:17 PM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Jun 26, 2020, 10:43:08 PMInconsequential fan-made junk more important to you than the classic original film - restored and in 4K?

More important to me than another copy of a film I already own several times over and don't have the equipment to enjoy, yes.

I'm sure it looks gorgeous, but the Blu-ray's more than pretty enough for me.
Posted by Darkness
 - Jun 27, 2020, 09:06:51 AM
I must admit I do struggle with 4K. I don't think the jump from 1080p to 4K is all that noticeable than it was from DVD to Blu-ray but it's the HDR that you'll benefit from. Blacks are truly black.

You can always wait for the PS5 and get that as your player.
Posted by SiL
 - Jun 27, 2020, 05:31:19 AM
I'm not rushing to buy a new player just to read the fine print on the Aspen beer cans in the mess. My TV is only 50" so the extra resolution isn't adding much.
Posted by Elmazalman
 - Jun 27, 2020, 01:14:41 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jun 26, 2020, 11:56:30 PM
4K is about the lowest selling point for that disc. Dropping the teal and orange grade and slight reframing is more interesting.
4K is a big selling point. With the increase in resolution, there's additional information in the image to be discovered. The new colour grading is also a big plus.

Haven't really noticed the reframing. I've kept the original DVD release because it still shows more image than subsequent releases.
Posted by SiL
 - Jun 26, 2020, 11:56:30 PM
4K is about the lowest selling point for that disc. Dropping the teal and orange grade and slight reframing is more interesting.
Posted by Elmazalman
 - Jun 26, 2020, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jun 26, 2020, 08:39:03 AM
Yeah, I almost got the 4K release of Alien when it was rumoured they would be on it, but when that turned out not to be the case I didn't see the point and cancelled the order.
Inconsequential fan-made junk more important to you than the classic original film - restored and in 4K?

I'm relieved that stuff never made it onto the disc. I would rather have original material included - even if it is recycled. Better yet, previously unreleased (original 1978) material would be an even bigger draw - but not fan-produced shorts. Had enough of that sort of crap on the Friday the 13th discs.

I don't know whether you have a 4K set up yet, but the ALIEN 4K restoration sh*ts all over the 2010 Blu-ray disc, and should be more than enough reason to purchase the disc - extras or not.
Posted by HuDaFuK
 - Jun 26, 2020, 08:39:03 AM
Yeah, I almost got the 4K release of Alien when it was rumoured they would be on it, but when that turned out not to be the case I didn't see the point and cancelled the order.
Posted by Corporal Hicks
 - Jun 25, 2020, 10:25:20 AM
For sure. They should have had their own release IMHO.
Posted by aliens13
 - Jun 25, 2020, 10:02:18 AM
I hope that they included in future Blu Ray releases. Those short films were very good and it's a nice incentive to buy a new Blu Ray release without always having the same extras.
Posted by Corporal Hicks
 - Jun 25, 2020, 07:21:18 AM
Not yet. I keep meaning to make my own little DVD or Blu-ray of them, but not found any free software that looks particularly friendly or useful yet.
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