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Title: Four New Clips!
Post by: Darkness on May 30, 2012, 11:13:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz4FblPcjbc#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz4FblPcjbc#ws)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDKKB8sLLKo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDKKB8sLLKo#ws)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpaqSr_20vc#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpaqSr_20vc#ws)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiPSPfACPCg#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiPSPfACPCg#ws)
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: escroto on May 30, 2012, 11:17:34 AM
what the hell man, more clips?
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Firestorm on May 30, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
If one thing is certain amind the whole air of negativity and uncertainty over the last few days, it's the quality of Fassbenders performance, which seems to show in these short clips.

I liked the Head chamber clip, and shall be reserving my judgement for when i see the film for myself on Friday evening.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: aliennaire on May 30, 2012, 11:25:28 AM
Quote from: escroto on May 30, 2012, 11:17:34 AM
what the hell man, more clips?
It feels like they are going to cut all the movie into 1-minute clips by June 8th, lol!

Nevertheless, thanks, Darkness, these four are marelous, the third one with ever-nosy David (oooops!) is my favourite!.. Someone got to order that bloody android to not grape ANYTHING before they left the ship!  ;)
And I love Aliens' music cue in it (like the drums)!
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Aceburster on May 30, 2012, 11:28:41 AM
 Based on clip four if they dont knock off Fassbender then im reeeeaally excited about where I think this series will go. also: dat mural.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: JonesTheCat on May 30, 2012, 11:29:16 AM
Some very shonky dialogue in most of those clips (Lindelof's no doubt ........).

Also, too much music where silence would be more atmospheric.

Vickers seems to be a real cardboard cut-out two dimensional 'bad gal'.

On the plus side, Fassbender is damn good.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Zenzucht on May 30, 2012, 11:36:09 AM
'Dat Charlize..

'Dat Fassbender..

'Dat Noomi..

:o

Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: szkoki on May 30, 2012, 11:37:23 AM
David is like a child playing with bugs. ^^
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: escroto on May 30, 2012, 11:37:38 AM
Quote from: Firestorm on May 30, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
If one thing is certain amind the whole air of negativity and uncertainty over the last few days, it's the quality of Fassbenders performance, which seems to show in these short clips.

I liked the Head chamber clip, and shall be reserving my judgement for when i see the film for myself on Friday evening.
yeah, I noticed some time ago too that the truly one shining here was Fassbender. It is a really good actor no doubt.

I'm also eager to see some Idris Elba's badassery :)
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Vickers on May 30, 2012, 11:43:35 AM
The marketing has become a joke.

First the film was shrouded in secrecy.  Ridley and co. were doing everything to protect it and now we can piece together the movie via all the trailers, TV spots, featurettes and clips.  And then there's also stills and behind the scenes photographs.  If that's not enough, you can find a spoiler or two amidst the viral marketing.

Lol.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: szkoki on May 30, 2012, 11:48:12 AM
its all about the money today it seems
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Vickers on May 30, 2012, 11:53:34 AM
Quote from: szkoki on May 30, 2012, 11:48:12 AM
its all about the money today it seems

Yup!  Something gets a huge budget and you can see the film in segments before the actual film... and on top of that, style over substance.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Kev Loaf on May 30, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
These videos just stinks of desperation on Fox's part.

Scott can seriously f**k off and so can Lindelcock!!! If there is a sequel I hope someone who values story over visuals gets it. Without story, visuals mean nothing.

The only positive that I read about it is that its visually stunning. No praise for story. Bad sign.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Gash on May 30, 2012, 12:12:21 PM
Quote from: Vickers on May 30, 2012, 11:53:34 AM
Quote from: szkoki on May 30, 2012, 11:48:12 AM
its all about the money today it seems

Yup!  Something gets a huge budget and you can see the film in segments before the actual film... and on top of that, style over substance.

Ahh, exactly what they said about   A  L  I  E  N   in 79, bodes well then.

The film is basically out, it's not surprising clips are appearing. Very far from FOX desperation.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: szkoki on May 30, 2012, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 30, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
These videos just stinks of desperation on Fox's part.



Maybe they saw the french and british reviews :D
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: aliennaire on May 30, 2012, 12:16:48 PM
Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 30, 2012, 12:09:34 PM

The only positive that I read about it is that its visually stunning. No praise for story. Bad sign.
The story is concorted to spawn out new, next story. i.e. has clearly open end for follow-up (leastways, it's what I've got from several reviews, going to make my mind tonight!)
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: AncientPred on May 30, 2012, 12:25:14 PM
im liking things so far.

didn't many critics hate ALIEN when it first came out?
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: armageddon on May 30, 2012, 12:30:15 PM
I really like how the movie looks like and I'm sure I will enjoy it. I love sci-fi and am easily entertained.


I just wish the story would have been better. From the spoilers I have read so far there isn't anything new, surprising or unique in it. Is it really that hard nowadays to come up with something new?
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: JKS1 on May 30, 2012, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: Firestorm on May 30, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
If one thing is certain amind the whole air of negativity and uncertainty over the last few days, it's the quality of Fassbenders performance, which seems to show in these short clips.

I liked the Head chamber clip, and shall be reserving my judgement for when i see the film for myself on Friday evening.

Agreed, Fassbender's performance is absolutely riveting

Love the ampule room clip

Unfortunately every little bit of LMG's performance I've seen in every clip so far is cheesy and cringeworthy beyond belief

The music seems pretty 'meh' so far also, pretty forgettable...........hopefully I'll be proven wrong tomorrow when I see the movie, but based on what I've heard so far, I doubt the film score will blow me away......pretty sure the whole movie experience will be a very enjoyable ride overall though, and no doubt based on whats been shown so far, itll be visually staggering
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Darth Vile on May 30, 2012, 12:41:58 PM
Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 30, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
These videos just stinks of desperation on Fox's part.

Scott can seriously f**k off and so can Lindelcock!!! If there is a sequel I hope someone who values story over visuals gets it. Without story, visuals mean nothing.

The only positive that I read about it is that its visually stunning. No praise for story. Bad sign.

If you want a story... read a book. If you want visuals... go see a movie. Simples.  ;)
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Gruyères on May 30, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
Quote from: JonesTheCat on May 30, 2012, 11:29:16 AM
Also, too much music where silence would be more atmospheric.

this.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Gash on May 30, 2012, 01:02:04 PM
Quote from: aliennaire on May 30, 2012, 12:16:48 PM
Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 30, 2012, 12:09:34 PM

The only positive that I read about it is that its visually stunning. No praise for story. Bad sign.
The story is concocted to spawn out a new, next story. i.e. has clearly an open end for a follow-up (leastways, it's what I've got from several reviews, going to make my mind tonight!)

It was originally touted as two films when it was an Alien prequel, this shouldn't be a huge surprise. Although I thought Ridley was developing a host of new projects. Mind you, he'd have to stay quiet about a follow up to Prometheus until release anyway.

I don't get these boards sometimes. Everyone it seems has been bleating on about the fact this film must be a success for there to be a sequel, then low and behold it looks like that was the plan and anger rains down.

Fair enough, when I see the film I may be disappointed, but I'm struck by just how similar a lot of these criticisms are to those of ALIEN and Blade Runner. Perhaps some people just aren't as into Ridley Sci-Fi as they claimed.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: DendaReloaded on May 30, 2012, 01:25:06 PM
ridley talked so much about how uniqe the movie is and how brilliant the ideas and the story are.
hell, the plot isn't unique or interesting and shit, though that doesn't mean the movie will be bad.
hoping for good acting/voiceacting moments, some good dialogue, score/atmosphere combinations... ridley need to push the movie with those things if plot goes wrong
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Gash on May 30, 2012, 01:28:47 PM
Quote from: DendaReloaded on May 30, 2012, 01:25:06 PM
ridley talked so much about how uniqe the movie is and how brilliant the ideas and the story are.
hell, the plot isn't unique or interesting and shit,

Oh, you've seen it.

Quote from: DendaReloaded on May 30, 2012, 01:25:06 PMHoping for good acting/voiceacting moments, some good dialogue, score/atmosphere combinations... ridley need to push the movie with those things if plot goes wrong

Oh, you haven't seen it.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: szkoki on May 30, 2012, 01:29:29 PM
"-what do you think why your people made me?
-we made you because we could
-imagine how dissapointing would be to hear that from your creators"


that gives me chills and its a big slap in the face for are the religious people

scenes like this, dialoges like this make a movie great if the plot is not so great..... for example FOR ME matrix was unique but its not my favourite movie but i luve some dialogues in it
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Le Celticant on May 30, 2012, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: AncientPred on May 30, 2012, 12:25:14 PM
im liking things so far.

didn't many critics hate ALIEN when it first came out?

But Alien is now a classic.
Prometheus will never be unless you like the slasher thing aka AVP-R, the same story narrative ala AVP with stupid idea and concept that simply makes non sense.
The score doesn't match the atmosphere also.
And Visually there's only the beginning that is interesting. The rest of the movie is just... random.
Even the juggernaut feels weak compare to the Derelic in terms of atmospheres.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Gruyères on May 30, 2012, 01:30:43 PM
funny how everytime I read the word "wrong" on these forums I hear the Shaw sentence "we were so wrong" in my head over and over  :laugh: damn Fox promoters!
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: psychonaut25 on May 30, 2012, 01:42:27 PM
Quote from: Gruyères on May 30, 2012, 01:30:43 PM
funny how everytime I read the word "wrong" on these forums I hear the Shaw sentence "we were so wrong" in my head over and over  :laugh: damn Fox promoters!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niTZztdrXIE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niTZztdrXIE#)
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Cvalda on May 30, 2012, 01:43:37 PM
These clips are horribly edited. Horribly. If this reflects the editing of the final film, we have major problems.

Also, LMG sucks, etc. :P
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Taxemic on May 30, 2012, 01:50:43 PM
Suprised by the negativity and dissapointment of those who haven't seen this film yet, but in a way it's a good thing for me as my expectations are now not as high and I'll be watching it friday with a very open mind, not expecting the best film of my life. =)
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: szkoki on May 30, 2012, 01:56:23 PM
Quote from: Taxemic on May 30, 2012, 01:50:43 PM
Suprised by the negativity and dissapointment of those who haven't seen this film yet, but in a way it's a good thing for me as my expectations are now not as high and I'll be watching it friday with a very open mind, not expecting the best film of my life. =)

yeah and imagine you'll still get a movie that you are ready to watch anytime....thats all i need tbh, i dont really like resurrection but if this movie better than that then its a really cool movie and if its just as good as alien3 then its awesome for me
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Mastes1 on May 30, 2012, 01:59:06 PM
I hope the final film isn't as dark as the 'head' room, you could barely see anything in that clip.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Gruyères on May 30, 2012, 02:25:42 PM
psychonaut25, I find that piece of art... amusing.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Gash on May 30, 2012, 04:17:28 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on May 30, 2012, 01:43:37 PM
These clips are horribly edited. Horribly. If this reflects the editing of the final film, we have major problems.

Also, LMG sucks, etc. :P

Your sig pic is a spoiler, and not really appreciated. If you were desperate to be be spoiled that's your business but it'd be nice to keep images out of the equation for anyone who thinks they might have carefully navigated around this sort of thing - only to find your sig pic staring at them.

Leave it a week or so, maybe?
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: TheLoon on May 30, 2012, 04:18:08 PM
again all 4 of these clips seem to be highly compacted...in the Vickers clip David is seen making her drink then she just all of a sudden has it in her hand at the end
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Valaquen on May 30, 2012, 04:30:10 PM
Quote from: Gash on May 30, 2012, 04:17:28 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on May 30, 2012, 01:43:37 PM
These clips are horribly edited. Horribly. If this reflects the editing of the final film, we have major problems.

Also, LMG sucks, etc. :P

Your sig pic is a spoiler, and not really appreciated. If you were desperate to be be spoiled that's your business but it'd be nice to keep images out of the equation for anyone who thinks they might have carefully navigated around this sort of thing - only to find your sig pic staring at them.

Leave it a week or so, maybe?
I have to agree - I'd been avoiding that image for the past week or so, and there it was  :-\

I was thinking that most of us, even the older Alien purists (don't mean that in a derogatory way) saw these movies as kids (I think every story I've heard from an Alien veteran begins, "I was a kid in 1979 when my dad/uncle/brother took me to see..."). I do doubt we'd be able to go into a new one with the same naivete or sense of wonder. The people who elevated Alien in '79 and into the 80's was the younger generation, the ones who existed before the 'franchise'. We've been both spoiled and disappointed by numerous sequels over the decades, as well as by other sci-fi landmarks. I think that if Prometheus is to sit in the pantheon next to Alien, or 2001, or Blade Runner, then it's likely going to be the younger fans who do this. I don't know.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: NGR01 on May 30, 2012, 04:34:53 PM
Yes those clips are edited.
As usual.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Cvalda on May 30, 2012, 04:35:48 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on May 30, 2012, 04:30:10 PM
I have to agree - I'd been avoiding that image for the past week or so, and there it was  :-\
It was gone as soon as someone raised an objection. Not that someone who hadn't already read the spoilers would even have known what they were looking at.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Valaquen on May 30, 2012, 04:51:50 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on May 30, 2012, 04:35:48 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on May 30, 2012, 04:30:10 PM
I have to agree - I'd been avoiding that image for the past week or so, and there it was  :-\
It was gone as soon as someone raised an objection. Not that someone who hadn't already read the spoilers would even have known what they were looking at.
I hadn't read the spoilers (a real feat when modding) and very clearly saw a mass of tentacles and a writhing creature which gave something big away (I hope otherwise!) But thank you for changing it  :)
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Anunnaki on May 30, 2012, 06:40:25 PM
Quote from: Le Celticant on May 30, 2012, 01:30:00 PM
The score doesn't match the atmosphere also.
And Visually there's only the beginning that is interesting. The rest of the movie is just... random.

You've seen the movie?

Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: dembones on May 30, 2012, 06:42:55 PM
These clips are probably a good counter to the more negative French screening responses and some fan responses to that.
Even the most casual movie goer would likely look up  Prometheus at IMDB before finding sites like AVPG & PF via Google.

I like what I see, but don't look forward to what could be an intrusive score.
I also know it's petty, but Shaw's accent really grates after hearing her trademark lines for so long  :-\
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Le Celticant on May 30, 2012, 06:50:02 PM
Quote from: Anunnaki on May 30, 2012, 06:40:25 PM
Quote from: Le Celticant on May 30, 2012, 01:30:00 PM
The score doesn't match the atmosphere also.
And Visually there's only the beginning that is interesting. The rest of the movie is just... random.

You've seen the movie?

Yeah world premiere at Le Grand Rex.
Though I'm disappointed for a World Premiere because I can't remember seeing any of the cast or director / screenwriter present.
I thought they would be there.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Esoteric_Voyage on May 30, 2012, 07:25:55 PM
i'm very happy with the performances and particularly the script in these scenes, its restored some confidence in the film being better than what i fear it would be!

i liked fassbenders performance since some of the earliest clips, i knew he would shine out, i didn't know if he would shine out to everyone else though, glad to see he is to the critics so far!
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: OpenMaw on May 30, 2012, 08:15:16 PM
I'd like to point out these clips suffer from the same trim down effect as the "prometheus has landed" clip. There are moments where you can tell they've chipped out a bit of the scene here and there.

Spoiler

IE; Shaw sees the walls changing and THEY HAVE TO GO. It seems like there's a moment missing there.

They -just- got into the damn chamber. Literally. No time for any suspense or anything.
[close]
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Mohawksinspace on May 30, 2012, 08:18:57 PM
Quote from: Kev Loaf on May 30, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
These videos just stinks of desperation on Fox's part.

Scott can seriously f**k off and so can Lindelcock!!! If there is a sequel I hope someone who values story over visuals gets it. Without story, visuals mean nothing.

The only positive that I read about it is that its visually stunning. No praise for story. Bad sign.

Sounds an awful lot like Alien to me.

Weak story, Amazing visuals design.
The clincher for Alien was always creature design.

Take away dat awesome design and its just 10 little indians in space.
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Lssar on May 30, 2012, 08:59:24 PM
Maybe it´s of no importance, but have you noticed in the 4th clip, with Holloway and David, how David holds his right hand forefinger all the time, while he´s fiddling with the drink he´s about to offer to Holloway?

Isn´t that the same finger with the drop of black goo, in the close-up scene with the "Big things have small beginnings" phrase?

I think Holloway is about to enjoy a long drink with a special ingredient ...

Dió!
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Mohawksinspace on May 30, 2012, 09:02:41 PM
Indeed this movie should serve as a warning as to what happens when you drink Kraken:Black spiced rum  :laugh:
Title: Re: Four New Clips!
Post by: Space Sweeper on May 30, 2012, 10:51:36 PM
Quote from: Vickers on May 30, 2012, 11:43:35 AM
The marketing has become a joke.

First the film was shrouded in secrecy.  Ridley and co. were doing everything to protect it and now we can piece together the movie via all the trailers, TV spots, featurettes and clips.  And then there's also stills and behind the scenes photographs.  If that's not enough, you can find a spoiler or two amidst the viral marketing.

Lol.
I really agree. Of course, we've played along with it, delving deep into everything being blatantly thrown at us. :c

That said, and keeping it in mind, I watched these clips and they're great. I particularly like the scene between David and Holloway. I hope they have a continued dynamic.