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Title: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 06:45:08 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadline.com/2022/02/alien-fx-series-sigourney-weaver-ripley-1234955817/amp/

Takes place around the same time as Prometheus.
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 17, 2022, 06:53:28 PM
Huh. I was really hoping/expecting post-Alien 3.
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 06:54:39 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 06:45:08 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadline.com/2022/02/alien-fx-series-sigourney-weaver-ripley-1234955817/amp/

Takes place around the same time as Prometheus.

It's going to take place before David created the aliens?
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 06:55:22 PM
Indeed ☝️

Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 06:45:08 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadline.com/2022/02/alien-fx-series-sigourney-weaver-ripley-1234955817/amp/

Takes place around the same time as Prometheus.

(https://i.ibb.co/8zLY2TF/Screenshot-20220217-155208.jpg)

Omg!  :o something told me that "no so far in the future" was more literal than we thought.  :-X

Also, I wondered what the surprise will be... That David didn't create the Alien or something ???

Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 17, 2022, 06:56:41 PM
Yeah, definitely looking like this project is going to be retconning David as the creator, I guess.
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 07:02:20 PM
Maybe they'll come up with something even worse though.  Like maybe Peter Weyland personally created them or some shit.
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 07:16:46 PM
Well the show is still a prequel.  :laugh:

I wonder what the Earth of the Alien universe will look like at the end of the 21st century. We get a little glimpse in a Covenant deleted scene of what it looks like in the early 22nd century.

(https://i.ibb.co/HPQqLxY/UlKOr3e.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/YcFyf5W/VF6ilr4.jpg)

It's not canon anyway, and has no relevance to this project, which makes me very curious to learn if ti's going to be 'Used Future' (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UsedFuture), like the original Alien, or more like 'Everything Is an iPod in the Future' (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EverythingIsAnIPodInTheFuture), like in Prometheus.
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: skhellter on Feb 17, 2022, 07:18:09 PM
Retconning David's story... is f**king lame.

That plot about the young girl with superstrength becoming "leader of the hybrids!" sounded like lame Young Adult tier shit, too.

This all feels like it's dead on arrival.
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 07:19:52 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 07:02:20 PM
Maybe they'll come up with something even worse though.  Like maybe Peter Weyland personally created them or some shit.

This sounds so awful I wanna see it
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 07:20:20 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 07:02:20 PM
Maybe they'll come up with something even worse though.  Like maybe Peter Weyland personally created them or some shit.

(https://s10.gifyu.com/images/dang-home-alone.gif)
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 07:31:33 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 07:19:52 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 07:02:20 PM
Maybe they'll come up with something even worse though.  Like maybe Peter Weyland personally created them or some shit.

This sounds so awful I wanna see it

People will still wax philosophical to defend it.

"iT mAkEs sEnSe bCuZ mUh tHeMeS!!!"
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 17, 2022, 07:32:01 PM
I'm still gonna roll with this for now and give it a shot and hope for the best, but I'd be lying if I said today's news wasn't pretty disheartening. Both in terms of retconning Covenant, and in terms of putting the Alien here on Earth before the events of Alien.
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 07:31:33 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 07:19:52 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 07:02:20 PM
Maybe they'll come up with something even worse though.  Like maybe Peter Weyland personally created them or some shit.

This sounds so awful I wanna see it

People will still wax philosophical to defend it.

"iT mAkEs sEnSe bCuZ mUh tHeMeS!!!"

I probably would.

You've got some philosophy for me, duuuuuuuuude ?

(https://c.tenor.com/YSarcpmjys4AAAAC/chappelles-show-dave-chappelle.gif)


Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 17, 2022, 07:32:01 PM
I'm still gonna roll with this for now and give it a shot and hope for the best, but I'd be lying if I said today's news wasn't pretty disheartening. Both in terms of retconning Covenant, and in terms of putting the Alien here on Earth before the events of Alien.

Well, we lived through AvP 2004, we're gonna live through this
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 08:05:23 PM
Its either not going to have the Alien in it as we know it or this series is just going to exist exclusively in its own continuity.
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 08:10:49 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 08:05:23 PM
... or this series is just going to exist exclusively in its own continuity.

I wouldn't mind that
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Feb 17, 2022, 08:36:52 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 06:54:39 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 06:45:08 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadline.com/2022/02/alien-fx-series-sigourney-weaver-ripley-1234955817/amp/

Takes place around the same time as Prometheus.

It's going to take place before David created the aliens?

I think it's time we started talking ice-cream flavours.



Quote from: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 08:10:49 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 08:05:23 PM
... or this series is just going to exist exclusively in its own continuity.

I wouldn't mind that

Can you imagine the canon wars?
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 08:41:16 PM
This entire project has just been one big ice cream advertisement as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 09:01:36 PM
I'm going to buy ice cream or not once I see the final product.
Title: Re: "quotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Sett
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 17, 2022, 09:05:34 PM
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/cfc/eb8/803df44f5af5251c2a5291e53596004a6c-the-critic-lede.rsquare.w700.jpg)
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 09:22:34 PM
Your girl gonna love it tho
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kailem on Feb 17, 2022, 09:26:36 PM
Things I like about this: definitively retconning David creating the Alien.

Things I don't like about this: literally every other way this would screw with continuity, not to mention limit the scope of what the show could do.

I'm really hoping this is just "producer speak" akin to "this is the first time the Predators have ever been on Earth" and that they ultimately end up setting it post-Alien 3, because I just can't see any good reason why they'd want to create so many unnecessary problems for themselves - both in terms of ultimately having to make it match up with the films' continuity, but also limiting what they're going to be able to do, and what the audience is going to know has to happen by the end of it - by setting it in the Prometheus era.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 17, 2022, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 09:22:34 PM
Your girl gonna love it tho

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 17, 2022, 12:56:34 PM
We'll see, I might not like it at all either.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 09:38:53 PM
Oh yeah, after she basically proclaimed her unbreakeble love towards Hawley's previous work

At least that's the way I remember it
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 09:41:06 PM
I predict she'll love it more than Legion and Hannibal combined.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 09:42:03 PM
I second that notion
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 17, 2022, 09:42:32 PM
If it's as good as Hannibal I'll take back all my pessimism and bitching.

Spoiler
It won't be though
[close]
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: David Weyland on Feb 17, 2022, 09:46:24 PM
I'd be disappointed & surprised if Ridley Scott would attach his name to this series & allow them to go on to trash his Prequels, so while I can't square the circle yet of how, seems it's going to be on its own terms with the mention in the quotes of no other previous characters from the franchise in this either.




Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 09:52:09 PM
Quote from: David Weyland on Feb 17, 2022, 09:46:24 PM
I'd be disappointed & surprised if Ridley Scott would attach his name to this series & allow them to go on to trash his Prequels, so while I can't square the circle yet of how, seems it's going to be on its own terms with the mention in the quotes of no other previous characters from the franchise in this either.

Perhaps the surprise is Michael Fassbender playing another android/character.  :laugh:
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 17, 2022, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 17, 2022, 09:26:36 PM
I'm really hoping this is just "producer speak" akin to "this is the first time the Predators have ever been on Earth" and that they ultimately end up setting it post-Alien 3, because I just can't see any good reason why they'd want to create so many unnecessary problems for themselves - both in terms of ultimately having to make it match up with the films' continuity, but also limiting what they're going to be able to do, and what the audience is going to know has to happen by the end of it - by setting it in the Prometheus era.

(https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.2910023398.4275/st,small,507x507-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg)
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kailem on Feb 17, 2022, 09:57:25 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 17, 2022, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 17, 2022, 09:26:36 PM
I'm really hoping this is just "producer speak" akin to "this is the first time the Predators have ever been on Earth" and that they ultimately end up setting it post-Alien 3, because I just can't see any good reason why they'd want to create so many unnecessary problems for themselves - both in terms of ultimately having to make it match up with the films' continuity, but also limiting what they're going to be able to do, and what the audience is going to know has to happen by the end of it - by setting it in the Prometheus era.

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.2910023398.4275/st,small,507x507-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg

For real, at this point. But hey, at least the silver lining will be Covenant being well and truly retconned into oblivion! :laugh:
Title: Re: "quotquotquotnear the end of this century we’re in — so 70-odd years from now.” FX CEO Landgraf Tal
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 08:05:23 PM
Its either not going to have the Alien in it as we know it or this series is just going to exist exclusively in its own continuity.

I doubt the people behind this are thinking of doing a secondary continuity. I think it's the real deal until the fans hate it to death and then it becomes its own canon (like AVPs).
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 09:52:09 PM
Perhaps the surprise is Michael Fassbender playing another android/character.  :laugh:

He should play android called Gordon. Probably an early model prototype that got locked in a vault and forgotten about. Nobody talks about him 'cause nobody remembers he even exist. That's why we never heard about him during the events of Prometheus and Covenant


Quote from: Kailem on Feb 17, 2022, 09:57:25 PM
For real, at this point. But hey, at least the silver lining will be Covenant being well and truly retconned into oblivion! :laugh:

I don't remember Disney retconning SW prequels
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kailem on Feb 17, 2022, 10:11:06 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 09:59:56 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 17, 2022, 09:57:25 PM
For real, at this point. But hey, at least the silver lining will be Covenant being well and truly retconned into oblivion! :laugh:

I don't remember Disney retconning SW prequels

Neither do I. Sounds like they're about to retcon at least one Alien prequel though.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 10:13:13 PM
May as well retcon Prometheus while they're at it.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 10:22:14 PM
But that upset pe. .Nah just kidding  :laugh: REtcoN tHe aLbinOoooos!!! 😜

Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 10:24:53 PM
#KeepTheAlbinos

#RestoreRidleyVerse
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 10:25:48 PM
 :o

Spoiler
>:(
[close]
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 17, 2022, 10:28:09 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 10:24:53 PM
#KeepTheAlbinos

#RestoreRidleyVerse

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Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 10:33:00 PM
What does Corporal Hicks think about all this?
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 17, 2022, 10:39:02 PM
He seems to be into it, if you read the news post.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: windebieste on Feb 17, 2022, 10:46:58 PM
Hah! It's possible to write an ALIEN story on Earth, right now; and it would still dovetail into PROMETHEUS and the rest of the series without a retcon. Easily done.

Just dig up a Engineer ship buried somewhere in a middle eastern desert and start having scientists fall over canisters of black goo they find that transforms them into Deacon like creatures. Instant ALIEN movie. It's not hard to do.

-Windebieste.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 10:51:37 PM
I gues I'm in a small small small minority that actually liked the idea of David being the creator but not gonna lost my sleep if they retcon that by showing Aliens being a thing prior to Covenant. It doesn't erase the movie from the continuity just changes the interpretation of events so I'm happy
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: J Bradley on Feb 17, 2022, 10:51:44 PM
...The presence of Aliens could just mean that David 8 reached some conclusion by himself that other scientists did before him.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 17, 2022, 10:53:04 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 10:51:37 PM
I gues I'm in a small small small minority that actually liked the idea of David being the creator but not gonna lost my sleep if they retcon that by showing Aliens being a thing prior to Covenant. It doesn't erase the movie from the continuity just changes the interpretation of events so I'm happy
NO, EVERYTHING IS RETCONS! CANON! CANON AND RETCONS!
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 10:55:21 PM
I have faith that it's going to be more of a recontextualization like what Alex White did in his books, and the only retcon is going to be David creating the Alien. The books, comics, and 'Aliens: Fireteam Elite' don't seem to indicate that the prequels are going to be contradicted or ignored altogether.

However, I do agree that they are somewhat limited in setting the events of the series close to Prometheus. We know that the Alien did not go out of control on Earth. No one in the prequels, or the Alien movies talked about that time all hell broke loose on Earth from an Alien infestation.

So no idea what kind of impact it might have on the universe. Unless it's pure small-group horror like 'The Terror' series, and why not, like 1979's 'Alien' . Something akin to Jon Carpenter's 'The Thing' would also be fine.

Anyway, this scene could turn into unintentional comedy once the show is reléase.  :laugh:

https://youtu.be/T7si5i8DKuU

But with all that in mind, and as someone who has enjoyed every season of 'Fargo' , which is featured in the news, I'm cautiously optimistic for what Noah is cooking up.




Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 17, 2022, 10:53:04 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 10:51:37 PM
I gues I'm in a small small small minority that actually liked the idea of David being the creator but not gonna lost my sleep if they retcon that by showing Aliens being a thing prior to Covenant. It doesn't erase the movie from the continuity just changes the interpretation of events so I'm happy
NO, EVERYTHING IS RETCONS! CANON! CANON AND RETCONS!

RETCONS WARS!
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: SiL on Feb 17, 2022, 10:59:03 PM
Every time they mention something about the series I somehow find even more interest to lose. I thought I had none, but here we are.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 11:02:38 PM
I'm not super excited about it either 'cause i would've preferred third prequel. And not some half-assed mention of David or Origae-6 in upcoming series. Give me my 2+ hours conclusion, goddamit !
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 17, 2022, 11:24:34 PM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2022, 10:59:03 PM
Every time they mention something about the series I somehow find even more interest to lose. I thought I had none, but here we are.

Yep.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 11:45:03 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 11:02:38 PM
I'm not super excited about it either 'cause i would've preferred third prequel. And not some half-assed mention of David or Origae-6 in upcoming series. Give me my 2+ hours conclusion, goddamit !

Here is concept art from a Salvador Larroca comic that will tell that story.

(https://i.ibb.co/9VQyRnj/David8-03.jpg)
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 17, 2022, 11:47:10 PM
grrrrrrrr
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 17, 2022, 11:53:16 PM
Come on, let's give Larroca some credit now. This is his official piece of David art:

(https://i.ibb.co/2yHZ8J0/David8-03.jpg)
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 11:55:37 PM
Shouldn't he look more like Sal?
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: 426Buddy on Feb 18, 2022, 12:02:46 AM
I think folks are overly negative about something they know very little about but such is fandom.

You would think nudging David away from being the creator would be something most fans would be happy about. I mean most people were incredibly unhappy with that development and were very vocal about it here.

The only thing that bothers me about any of the news so far is that it's on Earth. Otherwise I'm keeping an open mind and will wait and see. I've never seen Legion or Fargo though so I don't have much to go on.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 18, 2022, 12:07:18 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 18, 2022, 12:02:46 AM
I think folks are overly negative about something they know very little about but such is fandom.

You would think nudging David away from being the creator would be something most fans would be happy about. I mean most people were incredibly unhappy with that development and were very vocal about it here.

The only thing that bothers me about any of the news so far is that it's on Earth. Otherwise I'm keeping an open mind and will wait and see. I've never seen Legion or Fargo though so I don't have much to go on.

I'm trying to keep an open mind, for sure, but I also happen to be one of the people that are very, very fond of Covenant. And on top of that, an Earth setting pre-Alien rubs me the wrong way.

I want this to be good, of course, and I am hoping that it will be... but those are two pretty big hills it is going to have to climb for me, based on what we just got confirmation of today.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: 426Buddy on Feb 18, 2022, 12:32:43 AM
I like Covenant too, I rank it next to Alien3 behind Alien/Aliens. But I wasn't fond of David being the creator and I don't think retconning him being the original creator will actually hurt the film or invalidate it.

Being on Earth pre-Alien is a pretty big hill though.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: St_Eddie on Feb 18, 2022, 12:53:35 AM
So this series is set long before the first Alien film and on Earth. Did the people behind this series even bother to watch the original movies before writing the script, or had they simply forgotten what Ripley said in Aliens?

Ellen Ripley: "God damn it, that's not all! Because if one of those things gets down here then that will be all! Then all this - this bullshit that you think is so important, you can just kiss all that goodbye!"

Way to undermine Ripley's point, guys. *slowclap*

Don't worry, Ripley. It's no big deal if the aliens make it to Earth because it already happened 70 years before you first encountered the creature, out there in the far reaches of space, but clearly it was such a non-issue, that you and the rest of humanity at large are entirely unaware that it ever happened. Therefore, Ripley, who cares if a xeno or hundred make it to Earth? It's all fine and you sacrificed your life in a giant furnace for nothing.

What a joke.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 18, 2022, 12:55:45 AM
Didn't that ship already sail in 2004 when PWSA bestowed AvP upon humanity? ???
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 18, 2022, 01:09:50 AM
Watch Aliens die to regular gunfire in the streets of today's Los Angeles with no aesthetic changes whatsoever.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 18, 2022, 01:17:47 AM
I'd say the Alien would be lucky to make it out alive in a rough third world neighborhood.

(https://i.ibb.co/jrsy8s3/pandillas-texas-468x263.jpg)

The Predator has better chances though.

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Post by: SiL on Feb 18, 2022, 01:23:53 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 18, 2022, 12:02:46 AM
You would think nudging David away from being the creator would be something most fans would be happy about. I mean most people were incredibly unhappy with that development and were very vocal about it here.
If it does that then it's just replacing one bad idea with another. It's like suggesting setting fire to someone's house to clear a cockroach infestation - sure, you didn't want the cockroaches, but there were better ways to go about it.
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Post by: Nukiemorph on Feb 18, 2022, 01:45:55 AM
The surprises:

The aliens in the show come from DNA obtained from the AVP pyramid.

The main characters are the ancestors of the Marvel comics characters.

The characters discuss the human-Predator war that was set up in The Predator and how the Predator Killer armor saved the day.

David made the aliens, and he used engineer time-travel tech to bring aliens to the past.

David is the space jockey.
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Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 18, 2022, 01:50:01 AM
So you're proposing that it'll be another one of Hawley's mental illness simulators?
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Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 18, 2022, 01:51:05 AM
I smell a retcon!
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Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 18, 2022, 01:51:20 AM
Quote from: Nukiemorph on Feb 18, 2022, 01:45:55 AM
The surprises:

David is the space jockey.

I may be in the minority, but I'd like someone to explain to me why David looks so happy in this shot? 

(https://i.ibb.co/rsFmD3v/The-Pilot.jpg)

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Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 18, 2022, 01:52:11 AM
The Alien DNA comes from transmissions to SETI with a set on instructions on how to combine it with huma... wait a minute!
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Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 18, 2022, 02:13:16 AM
David sending the blueprint to SETI!



Also it's like one of my favorites movies! 8)

(https://i.ibb.co/HHCDqBt/sagan-ellie.jpg)
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Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 18, 2022, 03:13:48 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 06:54:39 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 06:45:08 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadline.com/2022/02/alien-fx-series-sigourney-weaver-ripley-1234955817/amp/

Takes place around the same time as Prometheus.

It's going to take place before David created the aliens?
David did not create the Aliens.
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 18, 2022, 03:18:39 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 18, 2022, 01:52:11 AM
The Alien DNA comes from transmissions to SETI with a set on instructions on how to combine it with huma... wait a minute!

Unironically 100% on board with this crossover.
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Post by: SiL on Feb 18, 2022, 03:34:56 AM
I would 100% rather watch that as a series.
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Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 18, 2022, 03:36:41 AM
A Giger-style succubus in the Alien canon? It sounds too good to be true.
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Post by: St_Eddie on Feb 18, 2022, 03:47:47 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 18, 2022, 12:55:45 AM
Didn't that ship already sail in 2004 when PWSA bestowed AvP upon humanity? ???

Not for people like me who don't consider the AVP movies to be canonical to the Alien series.  Having the Alien face off against the Predator is just an absurd "What If", like Robocop Vs Terminator, or Ronald McDonald Vs The Burger King.
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 18, 2022, 03:55:19 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 18, 2022, 03:36:41 AM
A Giger-style succubus in the Alien canon? It sounds too good to be true.

Of course, Larroca half-assed his one.
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Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 18, 2022, 04:17:27 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 18, 2022, 03:55:19 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 18, 2022, 03:36:41 AM
A Giger-style succubus in the Alien canon? It sounds too good to be true.

Of course, Larroca half-assed his one.

Ups! I had forgotten that one :laugh:

(https://i.ibb.co/4TkRzNx/Alien-Cleansing-Fire-4.jpg)

I don't remember the exact tracing-material (I guess Sil + Tim Curry in 'Legend' ) but it reminds me of the lizard people from the Ubaid mythology.

(https://i.ibb.co/xgBKNrr/ubaid-lizardmen.png)
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Post by: Stitch on Feb 18, 2022, 05:14:22 AM
End of this century feels way too soon to have aliens on earth. Jury's out until I've seen it, though, maybe it won't be terrible.
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Post by: Nukiemorph on Feb 18, 2022, 05:58:05 AM
You have to wonder why he's setting it so early.

Hopefully this isn't another attempt at an origin story that nobody wants...
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Post by: Kradan on Feb 18, 2022, 05:59:32 AM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 18, 2022, 01:23:53 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 18, 2022, 12:02:46 AM
You would think nudging David away from being the creator would be something most fans would be happy about. I mean most people were incredibly unhappy with that development and were very vocal about it here.
If it does that then it's just replacing one bad idea with another. It's like suggesting setting fire to someone's house to clear a cockroach infestation - sure, you didn't want the cockroaches, but there were better ways to go about it.

I love that analogy
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Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 18, 2022, 06:10:03 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Feb 18, 2022, 03:13:48 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 06:54:39 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 06:45:08 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadline.com/2022/02/alien-fx-series-sigourney-weaver-ripley-1234955817/amp/

Takes place around the same time as Prometheus.

It's going to take place before David created the aliens?

David did not create the Aliens.

Because Ozymandias?
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 18, 2022, 07:26:51 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 18, 2022, 06:10:03 AM
Because Ozymandias?

You know why he'd say that.
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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Feb 18, 2022, 09:08:57 AM
Quote from: Kradan
He should play android called Gordon.

I see what you did there.  ;)


Quote from: David Weyland on Feb 17, 2022, 09:46:24 PM
I'd be disappointed & surprised if Ridley Scott would attach his name to this series & allow them to go on to trash his Prequels

Alarm bells started going off in my head after Ridley refered to the story as "interesting".
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 18, 2022, 09:21:13 AM
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Post by: Kradan on Feb 18, 2022, 09:45:45 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 18, 2022, 09:08:57 AM
Quote from: Kradan
He should play android called Gordon.

I see what you did there.  ;)

Everybody always forget about poor Gordon, don't they ?   ;D
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Post by: Kailem on Feb 18, 2022, 10:18:53 AM
I've never had a problem with setting an Alien story on Earth (even with the AVP movies), though honestly if they were going to do that I'd prefer they just went all-out and did an Earth War-style thing that could really show just how bad things would be if they finally made it here. And I certainly don't have a problem with moving away from David as the creator.

The thing that makes me go "ehhh" is that, by setting it prior to the original films, you're limiting yourself unnecessarily both in terms of the continuity you have to match up with and thus what you can ultimately do, and also in terms of how you can surprise the audience. Because, as has already been mentioned, no matter what happens in the show, we as the audience are going to know that ultimately it's all going to be contained somehow, and that it's going to end with the Alien still not being common knowledge to the general public, because that would literally undermine the entire point of bringing Ripley along with the marines in Aliens if it didn't. And that's not the sort of "minor continuity issue" they could just sweep under the rug.

Set it after Alien 3 though and you've got no problems on that front. Want to have the story go in a direction where the general public becomes aware of the Alien? Sure! Want to have them get loose and swarm all over North America, or at least imply that that could happen and make the audience worried about that possibility and those stakes? Go for it! Frankly I doubt maybe people would be as annoyed at possibly retconning elements of Resurrection than the entire original trilogy (and even there they imply that Earth is a complete mess for some reason, so there's still some wiggle room there if they went that route).

Do that sort of thing pre-Alien though and we're not exactly going to be shocked if it all ends with the major location the show is set in being nuked and/or everyone except the Company folk being killed off in order to cover things up and match it all up with existing continuity.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 18, 2022, 10:39:46 AM
Might time jump from Season to Season but yeah.

(Noah Hawley's known to do that quite a bit as most know.)
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Post by: Kradan on Feb 18, 2022, 11:33:18 AM
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 18, 2022, 10:18:53 AM
I've never had a problem with setting an Alien story on Earth (even with the AVP movies), though honestly if they were going to do that I'd prefer they just went all-out and did an Earth War-style thing that could really show just how bad things would be if they finally made it here. And I certainly don't have a problem with moving away from David as the creator.

The thing that makes me go "ehhh" is that, by setting it prior to the original films, you're limiting yourself unnecessarily both in terms of the continuity you have to match up with and thus what you can ultimately do, and also in terms of how you can surprise the audience. Because, as has already been mentioned, no matter what happens in the show, we as the audience are going to know that ultimately it's all going to be contained somehow, and that it's going to end with the Alien still not being common knowledge to the general public, because that would literally undermine the entire point of bringing Ripley along with the marines in Aliens if it didn't. And that's not the sort of "minor continuity issue" they could just sweep under the rug.

Set it after Alien 3 though and you've got no problems on that front. Want to have the story go in a direction where the general public becomes aware of the Alien? Sure! Want to have them get loose and swarm all over North America, or at least imply that that could happen and make the audience worried about that possibility and those stakes? Go for it! Frankly I doubt maybe people would be as annoyed at possibly retconning elements of Resurrection than the entire original trilogy (and even there they imply that Earth is a complete mess for some reason, so there's still some wiggle room there if they went that route).

Do that sort of thing pre-Alien though and we're not exactly going to be shocked if it all ends with the major location the show is set in being nuked and/or everyone except the Company folk being killed off in order to cover things up and match it all up with existing continuity.

I agree
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 18, 2022, 12:34:34 PM
Funnily enough, I get the sense that everyone but the AvPG staff feel similarly about this.
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 18, 2022, 01:36:20 PM
Yeah, I'm a little surprised at everyone being annoyed at the Prometheus time-setting. Honestly, I don't think they were going to have a clean way to do whatever they wanted without setting it after Alien: Resurrection because AR will always stand in the way of anything happening after Alien 3. And the same ways around explaining anything set after Alien 3 away can be used regardless of setting anything before or between the other movies, so it's a bit of a moot point from my perspective.

And like I always said, while I appreciate the themes at play behind David as Creator, I still don't like it and I quite happily take this turning away from that angle and bringing back a longer history to the Alien. We'll have to see what they actually do with the Alien though - I could hate that for all I know.  :laugh:



Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 18, 2022, 09:08:57 AM
Quote from: David Weyland on Feb 17, 2022, 09:46:24 PM
I'd be disappointed & surprised if Ridley Scott would attach his name to this series & allow them to go on to trash his Prequels

Alarm bells started going off in my head after Ridley refered to the story as "interesting".

I think he's going to love the whole consciousness download aspect of the series. With his fascination with mortality, I think that's right up his alley.


Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 08:05:23 PM
Its either not going to have the Alien in it as we know it or this series is just going to exist exclusively in its own continuity.

I kinda feel like this is going to be how it goes down anyway.
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Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 18, 2022, 03:10:30 PM
You could have just sidestepped Resurrection, absolutely no one I know cares in the slightest even the people who genuinely enjoy it.

I hope it surprises me but, I'm probably by far Noah Hawley's biggest champion on this board and I really really don't have a good feeling about this.

Frankly anything other than Aliens being on Earth and taking us to a original Mad Max leading into a The Road Warrior or Fury Road type setting I find unacceptable.

It really makes them a joke if they can just be contained and neutralised in a particular area, and severely reduces consequences and the fear factor.

"You don't beat this thing, Ripley. You can't. All you can do is refuse to engage. You've got to wipe out every trace. Destroy any clue. Stop its infection from spreading. Make sure there's no chance of the human race ever making contact with it again. Because the moment it makes contact, it's won." -Henry Marlow
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Post by: Kradan on Feb 18, 2022, 03:18:18 PM
What pisses me off is that they didn't even needed to put that stupid f**king line about all the Aliens being wiped out. All that needed to be said is that they looked for them, didn't find any and eventually cloning Ripley just became a more viable option. Because, really, even if there're Aliens somewhere in vastness of space you don't just go find them unless you know where to look at

Also, funnily enough, Resurrection had the opposite poblem of one the upcoming series going to have - it was set TOO FAR in the future as opposed to NOT FAR ENOUGH

ALSO, given events of Covenant, there ARE some Alien eggs somewhere besides LV-426. Maybe not quite Xenos you would want but still
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Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 18, 2022, 03:34:08 PM
I love Legion and Fargo. I don't have such negative thoughts yet. I might change my mind once I see the trailer, or better yet, when I see the whole series.

Edit: I don't like Gordon. I prefer Ronald.

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Post by: Kradan on Feb 18, 2022, 03:39:09 PM
Ronald should be a name of another Ripley clone protagonist though. Is there a female equivalent of Ronald in English ?

Also, Ronald MacDonald
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Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 18, 2022, 04:26:19 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 18, 2022, 01:36:20 PMWe'll have to see what they actually do with the Alien though - I could hate that for all I know.  :laugh:

I fully expect them to tweak the design beyond all recognition and then call the fans toxic for hating it.
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Post by: Kradan on Feb 18, 2022, 04:29:58 PM
Fred Dekker to the rescue !
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Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 18, 2022, 04:39:40 PM
I was talking narratively there - but yeah, we'll see what WETA does.
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Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 18, 2022, 04:40:48 PM
I fully expect them to tweak the lore beyond all recognition and then call the fans toxic for hating it.
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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Feb 18, 2022, 04:57:12 PM
They should just have let Ridley do the third and last prequel and let him put David in the jockey suit so that we can all have peace and harmony in Alien fandom land.
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Post by: Adam802 on Feb 18, 2022, 05:13:16 PM
Setting it on Earth before the 1st film is stupid and contrived.
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Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 18, 2022, 05:17:34 PM
The mere fact that this can be reviewed by Red Letter Media justifies the existence of the series.
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Post by: Kradan on Feb 18, 2022, 05:46:51 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 18, 2022, 04:57:12 PM
They should just have let Ridley do the third and last prequel and let him put David in the jockey suit so that we can all have peace and harmony in Alien fandom land.

YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYEYSYEYEESYEEYSYEESYSEYSYESY


Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 18, 2022, 05:17:34 PM
The mere fact that this can be reviewed by Red Letter Media justifies the existence of the series.

Sold
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Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 18, 2022, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 18, 2022, 10:18:53 AM
The thing that makes me go "ehhh" is that, by setting it prior to the original films, you're limiting yourself unnecessarily both in terms of the continuity you have to match up with and thus what you can ultimately do, and also in terms of how you can surprise the audience. Because, as has already been mentioned, no matter what happens in the show, we as the audience are going to know that ultimately it's all going to be contained somehow, and that it's going to end with the Alien still not being common knowledge to the general public, because that would literally undermine the entire point of bringing Ripley along with the marines in Aliens if it didn't. And that's not the sort of "minor continuity issue" they could just sweep under the rug.

See, this assumes Hawley gives a f**k about any of that, and doesn't just do his own thing with it entirely. Which seems like 50/50 odds or better right now.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 18, 2022, 01:36:20 PM
I kinda feel like this is going to be how it goes down anyway.
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Post by: Kailem on Feb 18, 2022, 08:49:10 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 18, 2022, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 18, 2022, 10:18:53 AM
The thing that makes me go "ehhh" is that, by setting it prior to the original films, you're limiting yourself unnecessarily both in terms of the continuity you have to match up with and thus what you can ultimately do, and also in terms of how you can surprise the audience. Because, as has already been mentioned, no matter what happens in the show, we as the audience are going to know that ultimately it's all going to be contained somehow, and that it's going to end with the Alien still not being common knowledge to the general public, because that would literally undermine the entire point of bringing Ripley along with the marines in Aliens if it didn't. And that's not the sort of "minor continuity issue" they could just sweep under the rug.

See, this assumes Hawley gives a f**k about any of that, and doesn't just do his own thing with it entirely. Which seems like 50/50 odds or better right now.

Indeed, I've certainly had those same thoughts more than a few times since we first heard about this.
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Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 18, 2022, 08:54:14 PM
Did Fargo and Legion take place in the same continuity as the movies they were based on?
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Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 18, 2022, 09:02:24 PM
Yes.

#fargoloverhere
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Post by: DaveT937 on Feb 18, 2022, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 18, 2022, 04:57:12 PM
They should just have let Ridley do the third and last prequel and let him put David in the jockey suit so that we can all have peace and harmony in Alien fandom land.
No. No they shouldn't. There would be no 'peace and harmony in Alien fandom land' if that's the route they go down. There would be total and utter f**king anarchy.
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Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 18, 2022, 11:52:35 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Feb 17, 2022, 07:18:09 PM
David's story... is f**king lame.

Fixed for you.  ;)
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Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 19, 2022, 12:06:26 AM
Don't let the bedbugs bite.
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Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 19, 2022, 12:21:17 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 18, 2022, 11:52:35 PM
Quote from: skhellter on Feb 17, 2022, 07:18:09 PM
David's story... is f**king lame.

Fixed for you.  ;)

(https://i.ibb.co/w7q4XjR/Pics-Art-02-18-09-06-05.jpg)

(https://s10.gifyu.com/images/b0793f03f414af87d379ba0d74b3e16a.gif)
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Post by: Kimarhi on Feb 19, 2022, 12:43:36 AM
Setting it on future earth is still better than setting it on present earth.

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Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 19, 2022, 07:04:28 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 18, 2022, 06:10:03 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Feb 18, 2022, 03:13:48 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 17, 2022, 06:54:39 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Feb 17, 2022, 06:45:08 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadline.com/2022/02/alien-fx-series-sigourney-weaver-ripley-1234955817/amp/

Takes place around the same time as Prometheus.

It's going to take place before David created the aliens?

David did not create the Aliens.

Because Ozymandias?
Among other reasons.

If the new series is going to recontextualize Alien Covenant and throw the "David is the creator" nonsense in the trash, that's absolutely a good thing.
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Post by: Kradan on Feb 19, 2022, 07:32:00 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Feb 19, 2022, 12:43:36 AM
Setting it on future earth is still better than setting it on present earth.

Well, flu is better than cancer, sure. It's still a flu
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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Feb 19, 2022, 11:00:28 AM
Quote from: DaveT937 on Feb 18, 2022, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 18, 2022, 04:57:12 PM
They should just have let Ridley do the third and last prequel and let him put David in the jockey suit so that we can all have peace and harmony in Alien fandom land.
No. No they shouldn't. There would be no 'peace and harmony in Alien fandom land' if that's the route they go down. There would be total and utter f**king anarchy.

I was joking of course.

I believe the Corporal is on record as saying he'll be quitting the fandom if that happens.  :laugh:
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Post by: Kradan on Feb 19, 2022, 11:04:07 AM
I don't belive him in the slightest. This site already survived a shutdown, no biggie
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Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Feb 19, 2022, 11:19:04 AM
Hick's doesn't f*ck about, he'll totally do it:

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Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 19, 2022, 11:45:43 AM
And then watch next Alex White book drag him back in. There's no escaping darkness, embrace it !
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: David Weyland on Feb 19, 2022, 11:46:13 AM
For all we know this series' agenda could possibly be a build up to dovetailing into Ridley's third prequel with a slow burn on Earth the first few episodes for world building etc

To have it set in and around the time the Prometheus is on its way to LV223 makes me wonder if that's the plan

So I wouldn't rule out the prequel story of David as creator (of at least the lv426 xenos) as being retconned just yet

They could make something truly engaging if it lead up into the third prequel somehow rather than just muddying the waters with what might be an enjoyable sure but an unrelated retake just to celebrate the Monster if you will at the expense of anything connected

That is ok for a series but what then?
You'd still have the Covenant floating unresolved in perpetuity on its way to Orgiae 6.
Could easily write the two most recent Alien films out in a script but that would be an admission of failure that I don't think the prequels quite deserve and would damage the franchise regardless of whether you like them or not, so I'm not too worried about this series changing the lore because I think the respect will be there not to or at least tie into them(As same time period) to do so and thus if successful, lead back into another film

PS. It'll probably be about a down on his luck cyborg dude who finds an urn of black goo in a cave in Thailand and takes it home to Eastern Europe and turns into a Xeno, kills a few people, site nuked from orbit. The end
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: DaveT937 on Feb 19, 2022, 04:01:55 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 19, 2022, 11:00:28 AM
Quote from: DaveT937 on Feb 18, 2022, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 18, 2022, 04:57:12 PM
They should just have let Ridley do the third and last prequel and let him put David in the jockey suit so that we can all have peace and harmony in Alien fandom land.
No. No they shouldn't. There would be no 'peace and harmony in Alien fandom land' if that's the route they go down. There would be total and utter f**king anarchy.

I was joking of course.

I believe the Corporal is on record as saying he'll be quitting the fandom if that happens.  :laugh:
Sincere apologies. It was lost on me last night as I'd had a bit to drink! Ha!
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 20, 2022, 01:10:10 AM
Things don't bloody need to be connected though.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 20, 2022, 01:17:48 AM
Doesn't Hawley tend to connect things though?
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 20, 2022, 01:22:04 AM
In what sense exactly?
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 20, 2022, 01:26:07 AM
His TV shows to the movies they're based on.  Don't the events from Fargo the movie happen in Fargo the series?  Same for the Fox X-Men movies and Legion?
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 20, 2022, 01:29:37 AM
The first season of Fargo (the only one I've seen, mind you) does connect to the Coen Brothers' film:

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The money that is buried in the movie resurfaces in the show.
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I can't yet speak for later seasons, or for Legion and any direct connections that may or may not have with the various X-Men movies.

As for this show, it seems like it is being pretty directly billed as a story set before Alien, and thus placing it within the same continuity as the films (albeit with no direct word yet on whether it is running parallel to [and retconning parts of?] the prequel films, or flat out knocking them out of continuity), but outside of the presence of the Aliens (and maybe Engineers/Space Jockeys?) and Weyland-Yutani, I can't imagine anything in this late 21st century Earth setting that would directly link up with events, characters, etc. from the original film.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 20, 2022, 01:33:54 AM
This is why we need Blue's expertise.  She has encyclopedic knowledge of all things Hawley.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2022, 01:49:03 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 20, 2022, 01:29:37 AM
The first season of Fargo (the only one I've seen, mind you) does connect to the Coen Brothers' film:

Spoiler
The money that is buried in the movie resurfaces in the show.
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I can't yet speak for later seasons

The UFO in season two is a reference to another Coen brothers movie called 'The Man Who Wasn't There'.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 20, 2022, 01:58:29 AM
Basically the later Seasons do not.

And Legion connects to X-Men barely, mostly doing their own thing like, although we get a wink and a nod to Patrick Stewart's incarnation of Professor Charles Xavier once in Season 1, 2 and 3 create their own incarnation better suited to their story, even if tangentially connected to the Fox incarnation.

The nature of the main character changing reality just by existing allows them to have their cake and eat it in that particular way.

But yes so far, Noah Hawley takes the opposite approach of taking every opportunity to remind you something's part of a larger established franchise, with the rarest exception.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2022, 02:10:17 AM
Both, the series and the movie are set in the same universe. However, I'd say the Fargo anthology is kinda more about the Coen's universe as a whole, and not just the Fargo movie, and usually each season includes a "mystery", like the rain of fish in season 1, the UFOs in the second one and a random pagan cult in the third season.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: St_Eddie on Feb 20, 2022, 11:40:34 AM
The connections to the Coen Brothers' filmography in the Fargo TV series are surface level 'member berries and easily the worst part of the show.  Fanboyism at its most pathetic.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 20, 2022, 12:06:45 PM
I actually don't agree with that, he does it in such a way that it does not feel like that at all, it's either a core part of the plot, or just connective tissue that makes it feel like it takes place in the same continuity even if it does not focus on it at all.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: St_Eddie on Feb 20, 2022, 12:23:37 PM
Well, we will have to agree to disagree then because all I saw was endless cases of "ooohhh, 'member Big Lebowski? Ooohhhhh yeah! I 'member Big Lebowski" and the likes.  I rolled my eyes every single time, which is a shame because when the series was doing its own thing, it was often great.

It also didn't make a great deal of sense that the TV series was set in the same universe as the original Fargo (and apparently every other Coen Brothers film?), given that Lester Nygaard (Martin Freeman) was a clear replication of Jerry Lundegaard (William H. Macy) from the film.  Also, the very notion of tying all of the Coen Brothers' filmography together and making some kind of Marvel-esque CBCU (Coen Brothers Cinematic Universe) fanboy wet dream makes me throw up a little bit of sick within my mouth.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2022, 12:49:20 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Feb 20, 2022, 12:23:37 PM
Well, we will have to agree to disagree then because all I saw was endless cases of "ooohhh, 'member Big Lebowski? Ooohhhhh yeah! I 'member Big Lebowski" and the likes.  I rolled my eyes every single time, which is a shame because when the series was doing its own thing, it was often great.

It also didn't make a great deal of sense that the TV series was set in the same universe as the original Fargo (and apparently every other Coen Brothers film?), given that Lester Nygaard (Martin Freeman) was a clear replication of Jerry Lundegaard (William H. Macy) from the film.  Also, the very notion of tying all of the Coen Brothers' filmography together and making some kind of Marvel-esque CBCU (Coen Brothers Cinematic Universe) fanboy wet dream makes me throw up a little bit of sick within my mouth.

Being a condescending Dick to people who like what you don't like is much disgusting and pathetic.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: St_Eddie on Feb 20, 2022, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2022, 12:49:20 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Feb 20, 2022, 12:23:37 PM
Well, we will have to agree to disagree then because all I saw was endless cases of "ooohhh, 'member Big Lebowski? Ooohhhhh yeah! I 'member Big Lebowski" and the likes.  I rolled my eyes every single time, which is a shame because when the series was doing its own thing, it was often great.

It also didn't make a great deal of sense that the TV series was set in the same universe as the original Fargo (and apparently every other Coen Brothers film?), given that Lester Nygaard (Martin Freeman) was a clear replication of Jerry Lundegaard (William H. Macy) from the film.  Also, the very notion of tying all of the Coen Brothers' filmography together and making some kind of Marvel-esque CBCU (Coen Brothers Cinematic Universe) fanboy wet dream makes me throw up a little bit of sick within my mouth.

Being a condescending Dick to people who like what you don't like is much disgusting and pathetic.

How was I being a condescending dick?  I simply gave my two cents on the matter.  The target of my derision was certain creative choices made by those behind the TV show Fargo, not anyone on the forum.  Find one part of my post where I insulted anyone for not sharing my point of view.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 20, 2022, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Feb 20, 2022, 12:23:37 PM
fanboy wet dream

I guess that's the part that might trigger some people
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: St_Eddie on Feb 20, 2022, 04:13:37 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 20, 2022, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Feb 20, 2022, 12:23:37 PM
fanboy wet dream

I guess that's the part that might trigger some people

I see.  I wasn't trying to say that people who liked the references and nods in Fargo are fanboys, rather that the writers were acting like fanboys by including the references and nods in the first place.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 20, 2022, 04:26:25 PM
That's probably the most level-headed response I've ever read. Like, I've had physical enjoyment reading it. Thank you for that
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 20, 2022, 07:58:58 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2022, 12:49:20 PM
Being a condescending Dick to people who like what you don't like is much disgusting and pathetic.

This is ridiculously hyperbolic, Jonesy.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2022, 08:09:40 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Feb 20, 2022, 04:13:37 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 20, 2022, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: St_Eddie on Feb 20, 2022, 12:23:37 PM
fanboy wet dream

I guess that's the part that might trigger some people

I see.  I wasn't trying to say that people who liked the references and nods in Fargo are fanboys, rather that the writers were acting like fanboys by including the references and nods in the first place.

Sorry if I misunderstood what was said above.




Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 20, 2022, 07:58:58 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 20, 2022, 12:49:20 PM
Being a condescending Dick to people who like what you don't like is much disgusting and pathetic.

This is ridiculously hyperbolic, Jonesy.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: razeak on Feb 21, 2022, 01:19:47 AM
+1 for making David a fellow that rediscovers the alien.

-1 for what kind of half baked nonsense I fear will make David look way better lol


Either way, I'm excited to see what happens. Would have preferred the Reipley era personally for the aesthetic, but hopefully they don't go too far off the rails.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 21, 2022, 05:31:45 AM
Ok, what are the odds they'll squeeze some Ripley reference in here ?

"Oh look, it's Ripley's mother  ! And she's a Colonial Marine ! ISN'T THIS EXCITING !?"
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 23, 2022, 10:52:22 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2022, 05:31:45 AM
Ok, what are the odds they'll squeeze some Ripley reference in here ?

"Oh look, it's Ripley's mother  ! And she's a Colonial Marine ! ISN'T THIS EXCITING !?"

Nah, Ripley is the main guy's sister put in a new body a few decades later. All that time being stored as an uploaded consciousness meant her memories were mostly corrupted, but come to the fore when she fights aliums.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Kradan on Feb 23, 2022, 11:39:20 PM
Interesting

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Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 24, 2022, 12:38:25 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 23, 2022, 10:52:22 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2022, 05:31:45 AM
Ok, what are the odds they'll squeeze some Ripley reference in here ?

"Oh look, it's Ripley's mother  ! And she's a Colonial Marine ! ISN'T THIS EXCITING !?"

Nah, Ripley is the main guy's sister put in a new body a few decades later. All that time being stored as an uploaded consciousness meant her memories were mostly corrupted, but come to the fore when she fights aliums.

Oh man so this directly ties in to android Ripley from the Perry novelizations of the original trilogy of DH comics then!
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 24, 2022, 07:06:29 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 24, 2022, 12:38:25 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Feb 23, 2022, 10:52:22 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 21, 2022, 05:31:45 AM
Ok, what are the odds they'll squeeze some Ripley reference in here ?

"Oh look, it's Ripley's mother  ! And she's a Colonial Marine ! ISN'T THIS EXCITING !?"

Nah, Ripley is the main guy's sister put in a new body a few decades later. All that time being stored as an uploaded consciousness meant her memories were mostly corrupted, but come to the fore when she fights aliums.

Oh man so this directly ties in to android Ripley from the Perry novelizations of the original trilogy of DH comics then!

It ties into that, and the novel where she comes back between movies then gets mind wiped. It's a very utilitarian piece of bullshit.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Local Trouble on Feb 24, 2022, 07:08:57 AM
You seem more optimistic than before.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 24, 2022, 07:16:55 AM
I am not.

But I may have become enthusiastic about it being aggressively bad.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Feb 24, 2022, 01:58:40 PM
I do wish for the best, but I'm staying very cautious about this.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 24, 2022, 02:24:54 PM
Just a thought but, presumably (if elements of the prequels are indeed being retconned here, and the two films are not actually being knocked straight out of the continuity), I'd imagine this will likely have to be set in the latter portion of the 2090s, since the company is still Weyland Industries earlier in the decade in Prometheus and Weyland-Yutani doesn't come about until at least a few years later, before the launch of the Covenant prior to Alien: Covenant's start, and Hawley keeps explicitly referring to the company as Weyland-Yutani when talking about it in regards to this show. I wonder if maybe we might actually be seeing the merger happen here in the show, or if Weyland-Yutani will already be established from the get go?

Of course, if Prometheus and Covenant are full on getting dropped from the continuity on the whole, then none of these details would be relevant and Weyland-Yutani could have existed for decades prior to the start of this show if they really wanted to go that route.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 25, 2022, 05:36:53 AM
I want more character development for Ms.Yutani.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 25, 2022, 07:23:13 PM
You mean the AvPR character?
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Bughuntwilson on Feb 25, 2022, 09:46:05 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 25, 2022, 05:36:53 AM
I want more character development for Ms.Yutani.
Why not promethus weyland instead of somebody that showed up in a few seconds in the avp films I genuinely want to know
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 25, 2022, 10:29:57 PM
If this is set when they are saying it is set, and Hawley is telling the truth about the company already being Weyland-Yutani and not just Weyland, then Peter Weyland is already dead on LV-223.

Also, it seems to me that Weyland-Yutani isn't really the main corporation this series is focusing on. A new company called Prodigy is. So unless it is directly correlated to Prodigy's exploits, I'm not sure how relevant a Weyland or a Yutani would be in this particular series, unless we end up seeing the two corporations engaged in some sort of direct rivalry (or collaboration between them, I guess).
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: [cancerblack] on Feb 25, 2022, 10:42:34 PM
I feel like IJ wasn't being 100% serious (or 100% joking, to be fair) though guys.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 25, 2022, 10:54:01 PM
On Yutani, though, thinking back to the couple years we had post-Prometheus release, pre-Covenant announcement, I always kind of imagined that a potential Prometheus sequel could actually deal with a Yutani-fronted return expedition to LV-223, perhaps even with the revelation that a Yutani vessel had intercepted Weyland's plans prior to Prometheus and had been following the Prometheus to LV-223 in the first place, arriving some time after everything in the film went down.

The Quiet Eye viral really seemed to imply some sort of sleuthing going on on Yutani's end, prying into Weyland Industries matters at the time.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: bobcunk on Feb 27, 2022, 04:41:17 AM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 17, 2022, 07:16:46 PM
Well the show is still a prequel.  :laugh:

I wonder what the Earth of the Alien universe will look like at the end of the 21st century. We get a little glimpse in a Covenant deleted scene of what it looks like in the early 22nd century.

(https://i.ibb.co/HPQqLxY/UlKOr3e.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/YcFyf5W/VF6ilr4.jpg)

It's not canon anyway, and has no relevance to this project, which makes me very curious to learn if it's going to be 'Used Future' (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UsedFuture), like the original Alien, or more like 'Everything Is an iPod in the Future' (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EverythingIsAnIPodInTheFuture), like in Prometheus.

Can't it be both? Maybe the used rusted blade runner style cities are the slums and the super hitech Star trek ones are just in different parts of the world. The ships and tech in Prometheus were privately owned and probably the best and most expensive you an buy where ass the ship in alien was like an old obsolete tractor that was pieced together from junk and used for farming in a 3rd world country.
Title: Re: "Near the end of this century we’re in” - FX CEO Landgraf Talks Time Setting
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 28, 2022, 12:10:06 PM
Yeah, I do think it's important that we don't get Pidgeon-holed into one thing = one things. It's why I'd like to see something with very distinctive styles in the same film.