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Title: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Darkness on Apr 07, 2004, 01:48:37 PM

Yes, that’s right. I just got my Fox newsletter telling me about the Featurette. The 2-minute featurette has now been posted by Apple and covers the creatures in enough detail to leave you wanting more. There’s stuff ranging from the new predator mask to the alien animatronics.

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Post by: AdamJZ on Apr 07, 2004, 01:57:21 PM
I dont usually swear but that was F**kING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: xanderdrax on Apr 07, 2004, 02:25:00 PM
This featurette really kick-ass! I can't wait to see the movie!   ;D  
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Post by: BEEKO on Apr 07, 2004, 02:30:23 PM
giddy up and bring this movie on im going to fly to the states so i can see this movie a month before it opens in sydney
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: izzet on Apr 07, 2004, 05:40:25 PM
the hydrolic alien looks absolutley amazing, this is just more evidence this movie is gonna deliver. Im am waitin for the new trailer in drooling anticipation!
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Post by: SwiRR on Apr 07, 2004, 06:17:50 PM
Just take a look at the pic with the Pred. Damn, the Predator is f****** huge.
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Post by: Melmac on Apr 07, 2004, 07:07:02 PM
WOW!! the Predators looks great.  The hydrolic alien is the perfect choice over the typical C.G.I.  I've been waiting for this movie for years and it looks like it's going to be worth the wait.
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Post by: Mecha-hellboy on Apr 07, 2004, 07:47:46 PM
Yep it shaw is looking cool im amazed at all the shit they packeding into the Hydrolic alien. like the Secondary mouth and the fact that its jaw can go Almost 180 degrees. and packing all this in to that stream line head. ithink its the most stream line of all the aliens it's. and the size of the main Predator it's a freakin tank
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Post by: Growler on Apr 07, 2004, 08:16:57 PM
Hey i see that screenshot the everyone was debating about from the 2 trailer.  Yeah, that's no PredAlien grabbing the Alien by the throat there.  I was reading all of your comments as everyone argued over it for the longest time lol.  It would be smart not to show us any pics of the PredAlien, just to make it seem more scary in the movie, you know?

Ha! Is it me, or does Paul Anderson look like he's one of those scientists that should die in the movie.  Hard to see if he cut his hair or just pulled it back.  Still, it would be cool to see him play as a scientist so he could die in his own project.  Hey, if i were directing this movie, I'd do it.  It'd be almost an honor to get layed out by a Predator or impailed by an Alien in my own film.  I don't think Anderson has the acting skills, or just didn't think of the honor himself lol.  So he stays behind the cameras, what a wuss.   Much respect to the guy though, it's looking good.  It's all down to how the acting and story goes.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Rusty Nails on Apr 07, 2004, 10:56:12 PM
I loved that (test?) footage of the alien all over the pred all crazy and stuff, how come no picture was taken with that? :D  Awesome stuff. I just checked my mailbox as well and I watched the featurette as fast as I could, love it.  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: kysgr on Apr 07, 2004, 11:05:29 PM
EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT EXCEPT 1 THING... Does anyone else think the body looks like Pumpkinhead's body? Way to simular and just think Lance Henrikson is in this movie too!    ???      ??? 

PS: the bodys are back to looking like they are more BIOMECHANICAL like HR GIGER built in the first movie!! The dome on the heads are clear!!!
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Gr8Kabuki on Apr 07, 2004, 11:21:00 PM
Kysgr- I thought EXACTLY the same thing. When Pumpkinhead came out I thought it was a lumpy, organic version of Alien. It now seems ADI is removing the biomechanical aspect which is disappointing. This might be explained  though by the fact that the Alien from the first film was genetically influenced by the Space Jockey's DNA. Still, the biomechanical nature is one of the things that made   Alien unique. ADI should not downplay it
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Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Apr 07, 2004, 11:21:30 PM
Things when watchin' the featurette:  00:00:50 - when predator turns, you can see another predator lying on the ground in the background. It looks like he's captured in a net. And wow, what a huge device (shoulder cannon?) on its shoulder.  00:01:01 - notice the body hanging in the background.  The Aliens look very different compared with the original/normal ones IMO. Other necks, smaller ribcages, other shoulders.  Anyway, I can't wait for this movie!!!!
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: kysgr on Apr 07, 2004, 11:36:19 PM
Gr8Kabuki--- You are correct!! Alien from the first film was genetically influenced by the Space Jockey's DNA... but the Alien hord is a DNA based BIOMECHANICAL animal that adaptes to it's surrounding thus mapping/useing the DNA from the hosts. This will explain why the Aliens keep changing their body structure! I'm going to love AVP when it comes out !   ???     8)  
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Post by: Killer_Kakashi on Apr 08, 2004, 12:04:07 AM
um.... I don't really see how it was influenced by the space jockey's DNA.... You're not making a lot of sense....   :-\  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: kysgr on Apr 08, 2004, 12:06:52 AM
aliens use their hosts dna to create the ultimate killing machine. Aliens are nothing but a machine...BIOMECHANICAL machine, capable of adapting to a host's dna. that is just what they are.

also if what i'm saying is how it was suppost to be then how did the aliens from the movie ALIENS look like crap... I mean more bug like?
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Maurice "HopeOfTheFuture" Huijs on Apr 08, 2004, 12:28:23 AM
i know about aliens adopting the structure of their hosts with the DNA stuff. But what I don't know is the fact that the Space Jockey's influenced the Alien. What do you mean? They probably didn't experiment with those creatures...?
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: kysgr on Apr 08, 2004, 12:34:33 AM
the body structure is almost identical to the Space Jocky & Ship... There is a connection somewhere.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Andrew David on Apr 08, 2004, 01:20:34 AM
Oh, come on, what's the bloody space jockey got to do with it? DNA? Stop inventing ways to pretend this stuff is true. Fact is, the ADI aliens have always been bastardised and inferior to the ones in the first two films, nearly all of us agree on that. I too am disappointed in the design of the Aliens in this film, especially after PA said they were going to be like the ones in the first two movies. Clearly, they are closest infact to the ones in Ressurection (I know, 'cos I have one of those heads in my flat). But we're just gonna have to live with this design, and it's old news really isn't it? What's important now is how they move and that they are animated/controlled believably. And that, I'm glad to say after viewing the featurette, is looking very promising indeed.    8)  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Cookies on Apr 08, 2004, 01:21:14 AM
I personally hate the clear dome on alien head.  THe alien from aliens looks so much better.
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Post by: Aliminator on Apr 08, 2004, 01:32:29 AM
WHOA!!!!!! the predator's shoulder armor are HUGE!!!! too big (compare to avp 2 game) .......lol, would be hard to get around. And the alien, i think it got smaller or something.......not sure, but still, it doesn't look so slimy and crappy like the Alien Ressurection!!!!  DAMN CAN"T WAIT, I LIVE IN CANADA SO I'M GONNA WATCH IT IN METROTOWN!!!!!!
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Post by: izzet on Apr 08, 2004, 02:00:32 AM
whoa,whoa, hold yu horses! many fellow alien fans would dispute this but the aliens from the film Aliens look awful in my opinion. Cameron said the idea was to go for a bug style dome head cos it would resemble somthing like a colony of ants (he also stated he would probaly of chosen the smooth dome if it did'nt keep cracking) . but again in my opinion it loses that scary combination of humanoid/mechanical style alien in the first film. Resurrection's were over the top, swapping dark black for a more browny colour and big pointy ugly chin. They have tweaked them in this movie back to the original colour (dark black), they are thankfully not as slimy on the body and the big hands are quite cool. There has been an improvment on the alien creature.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Psychomorph on Apr 08, 2004, 02:04:17 AM
Why I cant download it? It says you need Quicktime 5.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Spectra on Apr 08, 2004, 02:20:42 AM
WOW!!!! The Predator look amazingly huge. He look so broader that the alien look like a child compare to him.    ;D  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: kysgr on Apr 08, 2004, 02:35:32 AM
Andrew David-- LISTEN HERE & LISTEN GOOD!!! We were a) toying with the idea and b) this is how the comics explains the variations in alien devlopment.  I do agree ADI is the worst people to contact for the alien design but I feel since they have to bee there, the current designs are ok by me but i understaind they could be better.  Cookies-- They do look good but I like the BIOMACHANICAL look better.  izzet---AMEN!!

ps: I personaly hate the FLAT back of the head but i can live with it because ADI (STINKS) is doing the effects    >:D 
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Growler on Apr 08, 2004, 02:58:56 AM
I personally liked the Bio-Bug look just because it gave them that bug colony look to them.  That is after all, what they are, colony based creatures. I do like the transparent heads though.  Just makes me curious how noticible it would be in the film with all of that dark lighting.  That's kind of pointless to make details you won't be able to see, but then, making the costumes is all pre-production.  Adjusting the film's colors and lighting is all post production.  So sometimes you have to sacrifice the finest detail just to make the film consistant.  It sucks, but that's the way it's done.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: kysgr on Apr 08, 2004, 03:14:40 AM
Growler--VERY TRUE
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Killer_Kakashi on Apr 08, 2004, 03:59:04 AM
Personally, I like to think that young aliens have the clear dome to protect their brain till the brains develops a nice bone layer to protect the head more effeicently. and that, of course, the clear dome falls off. That's what i like to think anyway
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Post by: AdamJZ on Apr 08, 2004, 04:33:37 AM
At first I thought that the alien suits were just the ressurection suits repainted, but I am gladly surprised. I like the new design, they look like a cross between the aliens from AR and ALIENS.
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Post by: Growler on Apr 08, 2004, 04:40:36 AM
I'd like to see the whole process of Chestburster to full grown Alien.  Alien 3 we at least got to see the Alien shed off it's slop of a cacoon.  It'd be a learning feature to see if Anderson has come up with idea of how an Alien goes from catapiller to butterfly.
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Post by: Rusty Nails on Apr 08, 2004, 04:45:03 AM
@ kysgr - So you think the comics are correct then? Everyone knows that they are NOT cannon, and should never be used as any guide-lines for ANY Alien or Predator movie.  I wish no comic was ever made, they only confuse people. As long as something isn't explained in the movies or interviews with the directors, then all you can do is speculate. (like the thing with the jockey DNA, it's total crap)  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Chase on Apr 08, 2004, 04:54:59 AM
The aliens do look different, but i wonder if this is the full effects. i'm sure we'll see better in the movie
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Post by: Aliminator on Apr 08, 2004, 05:39:41 AM
The predators look awfully BIG!!!!! geeez, i bet they could kick aliens' ass so easily!!!!! they rule!!!!!  PS: i don't have any avp comics.......where do I ge them? (don't tell me to buy online because i don't have credit card or something)  PS2: rusty nails said avp comics are inaccurate, is that TRUE??? (In my opnion, avp have been drawn buy lots of artist so they could have different thoughts)

LOL, psychomorph.......omg you don't know how to update quicktime player!!!!!!!! lol, just click window, look for quicktime player folder, then click update.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Rusty Nails on Apr 08, 2004, 05:52:34 AM
Please Kysgr, I was never attacking you, but I'm afraid I will have to now, since you said I'm the kind of person who doesn't really read the full posts or understans any of its contents, well what the hell did you do any better on then? I was clarifying that comics should never be a guide-line for noone who wishes to learn more about whatever movie. You'll only learn more through the director commentaries on things or by watching the actually film(s).  Btw: "aliens use their hosts dna to create the ultimate killing machine. Aliens are nothing but a machine...BIOMECHANICAL machine, capable of adapting to a host's dna. that is just what they are. " What the hell is this supposed to mean then? Don't be such a jerk, you're only making yourself look more stupid.  Oh and @ Aliminator: The authors of the comics takes the movies as a background and then adds their own ideas into the comics to make up whatever the shit they want. Then people who reads it thinks that it's actually true, which is sad. :/ I'm not really into Predator as I am for Aliens (well I still love the movies, I just haven't gotten any Dvd:s of predator1/2) but I think I read somewhere that even the name Yautja first came off the comics, so not even that might be true, altough we all call them Yautja Warriors nevertheless.  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Cookies on Apr 08, 2004, 06:10:19 AM
I dont know why im the only one that likes the alien from aliens SO MUCH BETTER!  i mean the head is shaped so much better. It goes alot better with the rest of the body since its all bony and ripped.  Like wow i mean everything about the head in aliens is amazing it looks scary and real.  Im just glad the best looking aliens are in the best alien movie.  Part 3 and 4 looked so bad! omg.  I hate the wet look since ALIENS ARE EXOSKELETON! so they shouldnt be wet like that.  Aliens has down nice.  I wish the mcfarlane toy coming out thats 12 inch would have been the alien from aliens and not alien.  But i have to say the pred version is making me horny!
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Post by: Psychomorph on Apr 08, 2004, 06:21:12 AM
Aliminator wrote: "LOL, psychomorph.......omg you don't know how to update quicktime player!!!!!!!! lol, just click window, look for quicktime player folder, then click update."  Lol, it was at school (cant update), but now the whole download stuff is gone (guess they rebuild it) cuz I need to download, cuz have 56k at home.   @Comics: I hate AvP Comics, I hate Comics at all, but I have to say the comics got some things right, but some extreme awfull.  I also have to say, they are different AvP comics, some are serious, but other are kommerzial crap. All this Superman, Batman, Judge Dredd VS. Predator, damn it sucks.

Written by Rusty Nails: "I'm not really into Predator as I am for Aliens (well I still love the movies, I just haven't gotten any Dvd:s of predator1/2) but I think I read somewhere that even the name Yautja first came off the comics, so not even that might be true, altough we all call them Yautja Warriors nevertheless."  Exactly, I call myself "the original Predator Fan", I don
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Post by: PredatorDragon on Apr 08, 2004, 07:01:45 AM
Hi The Yautja Warriors crap title came from the novelized version of the 1st comic series. In the actual comic they did not mention this. So I still feel the 1st comic run of AvsP is still the best.  No fancy physical change to the Predators and none of this bullshit change a helmet to be different to the other hunters. What happen to acting style and character performance. Not major visual differences . Next will the a purple and pink Predator. Gezzzz......  I also agreed about DNA host crap. Every Alien movie has to have a different Alien. Well if they save money on design, use the Master Alien Giger design. This would give more funds saved and used for a good script writer or director. Cameron and winston did not change the aliens too much and none of the DNA crap was dealt with. Leave them like ants and make the plot challenging. At least interesting. So one day there will be a Godzilla Alien King of all Aliensssssssssss.... This gets better by the minute.
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Post by: Predboy on Apr 08, 2004, 07:02:09 AM
COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The featurette looks great. And the predators and aliens as well. I could tell that this movie will be great.   ;D     ;D     ;D  
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Post by: Saint Sinner on Apr 08, 2004, 07:37:34 AM
"No fancy physical change to the Predators and none of this bullshit change a helmet to be different to the other hunters."   PredatorDragon; Are you nuts? There different masks in Predator 2 on the spaceship at the end of the movie. It isn't like this was a new idea.  And why should all of the masks look the same? How boring is that? Can you imagine the Elder Predator at the end of P2 not looking any different from the others? That'd be lame, same with people not using any reasoning and bitching that every Predator should be the same size and have the same "look". The Predators need some individuality in rank, design, etc. They have an entire culture. You don't have to believe the comics, novels, and all of their silly little explanations, but what has been shown so far on the Predator end of the spectrum has completely surpassed those of the original films.
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Post by: Growler on Apr 08, 2004, 07:39:45 AM
Hey guys, don't rip on all the comics.  The original AVP comics that started the whole wheel to start spinning were pretty damn good.  Very minimal ideas were added to it.  Like in AVP # 0.  It implied first that Predator had a Queen captive in it's own mother ship.  The comic book writers also implimented the idea of traing young Predators to hunt aliens as a right of passage.  Only difference between movie and the comics here is, the queen is in the pyramid and the young predators have long tendrils with locks in them.  In the comics, they were short with no locks.  The comics also introduced how one predator earns the right to be the leader of the hunting party.  It gave the idea of a Predator written language.  However never in the original series was a name for the actual species given.  I think "Yautja" might have been taken from the end of Predator 2 when the "elder" Predator turned his back on Danny Glover to head back to the cock pit, or where ever the hell he was going.  He made a grunt that sounds like "Yautja."  So all i can assume is that some young fan picked up that grunt and spread the word through the net that "Yautja" was the name of the species.  Started the spinning wheel for fans to develop what ever they want.  Hey, if i'm wrong about this, I'm wrong.  I'm walking this wire just using instincts and a common sense of thought.  If I am right, it does upset me that the whole name of a species was from a grunt or whatever that elder Predator was saying in his language.  Very doubtful that he's saying the name of his species as he walks away.  For all we know he was saying "Get lost" to Danny in his own language.  That's the whole mystery of it.  One thing i did notice from Predator 2 that probably no one else has seemed to notice.  Everyone saw the Alien head.  Did anyone see that the elder Predator has a broken bottom left tusk? (his left / your right)  Also a tribute to the original AVP comics.  As far as Predator honor goes.  It's not a joy kill, if it were, Predator would kill anybody.  Instead he follows rules.  He doesn't kill anyone of no threat, and as we learned in P2, he shows respect to the unborn.  Prehaps because if he kills the mother, he will also end the life of the newborn who is no threat.  Therefore, breaking his rules.  That, in some way, is honorable.  I do agree that Predator is no warrior.  Just a hunter.  If their species has a military, then those idividuals would be considered warriors.  If they have "gladiators" they could be warriors.  No one knows until these ideas are introduced into story.  Point is though, if you say you hate AVP comics, it's the same as saying you hate AVP in whole.  It was the comics that gave birth to the games we have played and the movie we are so anxious to watch.    Granted some comics were written just because "well what if we have Pred vs Batman and Aliens vs Superman" damn ridiculous, no doubt, but it's a world of curiousity.  It was bound to happen.  Better to happen in the comic book world, than to loose a lot more fans if it were done in the movie world.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Psychomorph on Apr 08, 2004, 07:51:48 AM
@Saint Sinner: I guess PerdatorDragon ment, that it
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Saint Sinner on Apr 08, 2004, 08:02:39 AM
Of course, I never said their masks had anything to do with "honor" -- so much as it has to do with giving each creature it's own individuality for the movie so they can be recognized. And I'm not using that word in a "fantasy" sense. One of those Predators emerges as a main character. He's a "prince" or somesuch.  There WILL be varying degrees of technology and aresenal between the different Predators in the movie, as was said by Tom Woodruff (or is he Gillis?) in regards to the 3 shoulder-cannon barrel sizes.
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Post by: Killer_Kakashi on Apr 08, 2004, 08:04:59 AM
When you're talking about the grunt, you mean after he says "Take it" and throws the gun right?  Oh and I agree about the predators having rules. I mean it's like guide lines. When people hunt they'll basically kill any type of the animal they are hunting (Male/Female) However, that can lead to extinction of the animal species. The Predators, probably, don't want to lose such a widly used prey (I think we're widly used...   :-\  )   I'd also like to say that (Despite having never read the Comics) Some sound quiet good qhile other some like trash. I heard someting about an Alien King? That's just silly. And the idea of one host infecting another person through his/her sweat? That's crap too. However the few synopsis I've read of Alien/ Pred/ AVP comics have mostly been good.  Oh And I think I have a great Idea for Pred3. What if one pred was Hunting on earth and the Gov caught him. Then they took him to a research lab on some far off island. A few weeks later a second pred comes looking for their lost clansman. He finds the island and invades the lab in order to retrieve his fellow pred. Lots of death, guts, and one cool new hero
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Post by: Psychomorph on Apr 08, 2004, 08:06:14 AM
sorry for double post  P.S. thx for the featurette download, but sadly bad quality, hope for a download like the stream, like in other trailer releases.
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Post by: AdamJZ on Apr 08, 2004, 08:07:41 AM
No you are wrong, a predator who has collected more trophys and that has gaind more honor, or if the predator is roalty, then their helmets vary in design, for example: If a Pred has much honour and is very skilled, their helmet will be more ornamental, but it will be more plain if the hunter is just begining his hunts
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Saint Sinner on Apr 08, 2004, 08:10:43 AM
Psychomorph:  @Saint Sinner:  "I guess PerdatorDragon ment, that it
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Cookies on Apr 08, 2004, 08:11:04 AM
Well predator 2 the pred and a nice collection of different aliens.  I think he should have had some design on his helm then.  Anyway this is a stpid discussion, i personally like the pred in part 1 only.  I hate preds with those funky helms becuase it looks fake.  Personally i would love to know how they make and design them since they only see it in outline.  Crafty preds they are.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Saint Sinner on Apr 08, 2004, 08:24:12 AM
AdamJZ: "No you are wrong, a predator who has collected more trophys and that has gaind more honor, or if the predator is roalty, then their helmets vary in design, for example: If a Pred has much honour and is very skilled, their helmet will be more ornamental, but it will be more plain if the hunter is just begining his hunts."  There is some validity to this. The main Predator is supposed to be the one people keep calling "Scar Predator" with the knarled mask design. Maybe that Predator gained enough prestige to wear that scowl on his mask? (Notice instead of being blank like most of the others, it sort of resembles the look of a Predator with his helmet off.)  The movies made evident very few instances of respect/honor which is why the novels and comic books played around and elaborated on them. The movie already looks to be doing some exploring on both the Predator and Alien sides, as seen in the different interviews.  Just the fact that Predators in this movie are supposed to be hunting Aliens in an ancient ritual, hell, even on screen together, is directly linked to where this all began, which is the comic books. I wouldn't be suprised if certain aspects from them were used in this movie. The fact that a Predator may team up with a human in this movie is another good example.
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Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 08, 2004, 08:38:24 AM
The Predators helmet is not only for fighting/armor it also acts as a "breather" seen in Predator 2 when the Pred is on top of the building right before Danny Glover nocks him of with the top its spear in his hands you see the Pred taking deep breaths of his  "emergency" breather since it's helmet has been taken off/lost inside the slaughter house.You never know about the 'honor' thing though, I think the more different/extream the characteristics of the helmet/armor may have to do with either 'rank' or just style,since comparing the Elder in Pred 2 his armor and Plasma caster were much more extravagant and larger than the others.   ;)     >:D  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Saint Sinner on Apr 08, 2004, 08:45:05 AM
Props to Growler, he made a lot of very good points.  I know this picture has gone around the internet a few times, but I'll provide a link anyway for those who may not have seen:  http://www.deathstudios.com/images/predatorbig.jpg  That's one of the Predators on the spaceship at the end of the second movie. It isn't like the face-mask/helmet differences were just thought up for this movie!
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: RichardK on Apr 08, 2004, 08:53:51 AM
WOW Amazzing stuff guys im speachless  look at picture 5, the alien is taking a coffeebreak   Alien: "Hey where is my coffee and doughnuts?" P.Anderson: "Your'e and Alien you eat people, oh crap!!" Alien: "Oh yeah!"   ;D   P.Anderson: "HEEELP!"  hehehe
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Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 08, 2004, 08:54:26 AM
Also, pretty much the same mask  the 'SCAR' Pred has in AVP, one Predator has almost the same in Pred 2,the one who steps forward with the other Pred at the end when all the Preds surround Glover and he asks "who's next?".The breather mouth piece is almost identical but the top of the helmets differ from each other.And to add my opinion about the different 'head' styles for the Aliens, the ones from 'ALIENS' are far more superior than your basic smooth head aliens.I also agree with the person who stated that the smooth dome like heads are just for younger aliens until they mature fully and have them disappear/fall off to reveal there bony membrane underneath.Or the 'dome' heads could just be a different type of alien all together like a 'DRONE' or 'WARRIOR' or guardian type.   ???  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 08, 2004, 08:58:36 AM
Saint Sinner props for the pic I was just describing, pretty damn close to the mask of the SCAR Pred though.   ;D  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Growler on Apr 08, 2004, 09:51:36 AM
to Killer_Kakashi :: I know he says "Take it" but then he turns away.  As he sheaths his sword, he grunts something.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Goku on Apr 08, 2004, 10:22:14 AM
I think it was another Predator calling him because the ship was about to launch. At least that's what I always thought. It kinda sounds like either:  1. Taking off. 2. Broken Tusk 3. In-gov (A Predator word?)
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Post by: Killer_Kakashi on Apr 08, 2004, 10:29:00 AM
What if it's the pred word for S.O.B I mean Danny did just kill one of their buds.   ;D      (For the possibility that some did not get this, but this was a joke.)
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Post by: Predator2004 on Apr 08, 2004, 10:53:27 AM
when the elder pred gives the gun to danny; he turns away and says "keep it" (in captions)
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Post by: Killer_Kakashi on Apr 08, 2004, 11:28:51 AM
Really? Jeez I'm gonna have to watch the film again. I didn't realize he said keep it. This conversation has sent the blood running through my body! (Which I prey was doing that before this conversation) It has sparked my soul and now I have a yerning! No! Passion to see this film again. And I just had a really weird Idea!  Passion... Of the Predator???    ???  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Predator2004 on Apr 08, 2004, 01:55:52 PM
After I saw the the trailers,featurettes I was all like that Anderson will become a god after this. Since people were all like that Anderson is the worst director ever and now people are saying to show respect for this man since he is the one who wanted an R rating and the producer wants pg-13 rating. I've just seen all these movie like a bunch of times and i always imagined how it would be if both of these icons fought each other since i was 4 years old and after reading that both of these alien creatures were going to be more aggresive than before i was like hell yeah all i know is when we all go see this movie we will either come out of the theater with shock and awe or displeased, but after seeing all this i know and you all know this movie will rock our minds.
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Post by: Melmac on Apr 08, 2004, 03:07:56 PM
For those who are unsure, In Pred 2, this is what elder predator said to Danny Glover:  Take it. Leave here!
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: izzet on Apr 08, 2004, 05:14:24 PM
In response to an earlier post by Cookies, i agree that the Alien suits are looking great! minor tweaks where needed, and the taller,slimmer figure is resembling the superb suit from the original Alien. Oh, and here is how i rate the previos 6 alien/pred films:  1.Alien 2.Aliens 3.Predator 4.Alien3 (the special edition makes for more compelling veiwing.) 5.Predator2 (I've recently grown on this after watching it non-stop, crap acting and a lack of suspense hinder it.) 6.Alien resurrection (has it's moments, but poor script and jean-pierre jeunet, even though talanted was the wrong man for the job.)
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: AdamJZ on Apr 08, 2004, 05:53:11 PM
I agree with you, I did not like the design of the first film too much, it looked too robotic, and the aliens need to look more like living organisms, I think that the AVP alin design is the best so far, a cross between aliens and Alien Resurrection, I liked the ones in resurection, except for two major things, they were too slimy, and the were brown, I like how they went back to black. By the way, a lot of people are saying that the pred looks to big and bulky.  You forget my friends, they are diffrent from each other like humans, the big pred looks like the heavy or assult pred from AVP2 game, Im sure there will be lighter ones and somewhat smaller ones. I like how they are making the preds so diffrent from each other, it is wonderful, by the way, In trailer two alot of people wondered why when Alexa Woods throws the spear, that there is a guy in a net behind her, that thing behind her in the net is a predator, the humans must have captured it.   :-\  
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Post by: Orochi Avlis on Apr 08, 2004, 08:58:04 PM
The Predators are HUGE! The "hero Alien" looks pretty bad ass and moves incredibly lifelike!  All praise Paul Anderson and Tom Woodruff!
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Psychomorph on Apr 08, 2004, 10:01:37 PM
@Aliminator: Ok, peace :D But it
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Post by: Rusty Nails on Apr 08, 2004, 10:28:28 PM
Hmm, this is one of the more interesting comment pages yet. Hehe, I'm all peace and shit here, so I'm cool.  Can't wait to see this movie (on the net    :D  )  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: izzet on Apr 08, 2004, 11:14:39 PM
I'm not a very big fan of planetavp, but they are doing a poll, R-rated against PG13, go vote because they reckon they are going to submit the results to FOX, Darkness, that would be a good idea for a new voting poll for this site
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Post by: Vito on Apr 09, 2004, 12:40:55 AM
yes indeed, go vote R!  http://www.planetavp.com/  50 Votes so far 86% on R 14 on PG-13  theres actually someone who voted pg-13, and 14%..    ???  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Rusty Nails on Apr 09, 2004, 01:48:52 AM
^ Already voted. :)  Btw, did you guys notice the new Pred-weapons in the trailer? (somekind of spear)  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Aliminator on Apr 09, 2004, 01:54:20 AM
i just had a wierd idea for predator 3.......ok, first of all, a predator came to earth to capture and study human, and he kidnapped a young boy, 3 years old, and went back to his planet, the boy learned all the predator technique and warfare, and later, about 20 years later, he went back to earth to hunt, and eventually learned about his true identity and lived there....and he could be called PREDMAN.. (kinda ridiculous, but that's my thoughts)
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Rusty Nails on Apr 09, 2004, 03:08:59 AM
Lol, let's not be harsh against Aliminator, everyone has the rights to have ideas. ;)  -Rusty Nails
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Cookies on Apr 09, 2004, 04:43:35 AM
Who ever the poeple are that voted rated pg13 needs a shot to the face!!!  i guess its stupid kids that are under 18.  Really u punks shouldnt care just wait for hom video or get the movie off the net.  If i was under 18 i would rather not see it first day just to watch it in its full bloody glory!
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Aliminator on Apr 09, 2004, 05:13:42 AM
FOR COOKIES: hey!!! i'm 16....... Anyway, in Canada, it doesn't matter, just as long you pay for the adult ticket....HOORAY!!!!!!!!!   ;D  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: PredatorDragon on Apr 09, 2004, 07:06:47 AM
Saint Sinner.  Take It easy man. You will have a heart attack.  Individuality can be shown in many forms. The size of a character, the way they have their dreadlocks decorated, laid etc, the pieces docoration on their body, armour. Maybe even the color of their skin (I know P2 has it).The way they hunt, and the detailing on their face features, body language. May be the Predators could be different in another manners compared your cultural statement and mine for Individuality, which is a human based one. Actually the different helmet aspect came from Darkhorse 1st!!!   And the law of honor and more elborate helmet design. The 1st movie Predator was no novice so his helmet should be kick ass by your all mighty statement. He came here on this planet on his own and appeared to be older and honorable. So go figure that theory out.  Please dont take the comments serious as they are only that. And not a selfish one.  This movie will be great.  Its a pity the obvious highlights for an individual is a front on facial material one. When with my limited and selfish attitude can see their are others ways. Oh technologly advice hmmm whats the time difference to p2? Tare Care Saint man and sorry to burn your fuseeee..   ??? 

  :)   Hey has anyone noticed in the 1st featurette that the queen alien appears to not have her clear teeth. There is a quick shot of her.  Also Do you think the predators should have their shoulder cannon. They can be pretty powerful and unfair against the aliens. Especialy the tracking feature hmmmmmm......  I really hope their are no human survivors well at least female tough girls anyone. I know Bishop has to live....
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Cookies on Apr 09, 2004, 08:18:52 AM
During the featurette where the Alien and Predator have that little struggle, it looked so damned cool!    8)   I shouldn't worry about the Alien tail; Paul Anderson said that it would be CG anyway as it is too awkward to puppeteer.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Cookies on Apr 09, 2004, 09:47:38 AM
To tell you the truth im not sure about the fighting scenes until i see more.  Right now it looks really stupid.  I really hope there will be parts with the pred poping a shit load of aliens with its canon blaster.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Predator2004 on Apr 09, 2004, 10:39:33 AM
LOL PredaManha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!(Am I the only one laughing guess im a loner   :-\  )
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Saint Sinner on Apr 09, 2004, 10:41:00 AM
"The 1st movie Predator was no novice so his helmet should be kick ass by your all mighty statement."  He was the first Predator on screen, so his helmet was the first design. That's common logic.  "He came here on this planet on his own and appeared to be older and honorable. So go figure that theory out."   The first and second Predators being "novices" could be argued, but that's up to the imagination. If it appeared to be older and honorable, that's simply your outlook. Personally, I agree somewhat with Anderson's outlook on the two Predators, being novices because they haven't earned the right to hunt Aliens. The Predators in AVP are passed the human hunting phase. Besides, the first Predator spent the majority of the film simply picking off his targets in the distance using sniping tactics. I don't think he was honorable at all. He may have disarmed himself (still had the wrist-blades) but that could also be a sign of arrogance.   "Please dont take the comments serious as they are only that. And not a selfish one."  Sorry, it may have come across that way, but I didn't take them seriously. I just think whining about helmet differences is a petty gripe, as AVP isn't the first movie to showcase a few differences.    "Oh technologly advice hmmm whats the time difference to p2?"  It once may have mattered, but they could have had this technology during Predator 2. Remember; Anderson stated that Predators use different weapons to hunt Aliens. Just like a hunter brings an elephant gun to hunt an elephant. The time difference would then mean nothing, but that's still 7 years.(Assuming AVP takes place in 2004. P2 took place in 1997.) Since hunting Aliens is an ancient ritual, I doubt the technology is "new" to them, it's only new to us.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Killer_Kakashi on Apr 09, 2004, 10:49:17 AM
Personally i think the pred in the first film was an old pred, that had his eyes damaged (Looks at the preds vision in the second film compared to the first) and this was like his final hunt. That's what I think anyway   :D  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Saint Sinner on Apr 09, 2004, 11:03:27 AM
PredatorDragon: "I really hope their are no human survivors well at least female tough girls anyone. I know Bishop has to live.... "  Me too, but I have a feeling the chick may live.. and Bishop will die.   **SPOILER**  SuicideSquad asked Henriksen outright whether he lived or died in his interview with him, and Henriksen said he died. (Has a heart condition or some other terminal illness in the movie.) Other "near ending" spoilers from interviews also suggest that it is the chick and the Predator right up to the end, with no other survivors seen.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Rusty Nails on Apr 09, 2004, 12:51:27 PM
*Sigh..*    :-\    -Rusty Nails
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Post by: ALIENS on Apr 09, 2004, 03:14:15 PM
I hope the humans in the movie die in the worst ways   ;D  ,i have a question about the predator in the first film..... why was the pedator in the jungle hunting,what was his mission?does anyone know why he was sent to earth and please dont tell it has to do with the avp story.  :-\  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Growler on Apr 09, 2004, 04:48:58 PM
to ALIENS:  No mission, just a safari.  It's why rich british guys back in the day went to Africa to hunt lions.  He probably wasn't "sent" to Earth, it just may have been his choice of hunting grounds.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Melmac on Apr 09, 2004, 05:53:06 PM
This is the true story of the first Predator movie: The Predator in the 1st movie was an exile for breaking a clan law.  He was sent to a spot on Earth that was far away from the current clan that was already there.(The underground ship from Predator 2.  It has been there for centuries)  He had to gain his clansmen respect again by hunting the stongest foes in the area.  That is why he did'nt killed Arnold and rest at the begining.  He watched them take out the Gorilla troops and knew that they would be the greatest trophies he could get to be welcomed to the current clan in L.A(He had a device to find the ship's location)  From there he could report to his original clan and that's the true story people.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Olopolip on Apr 09, 2004, 07:06:07 PM
Melmac; what makes you think he was an exile? A lot of hunters (Humans,Leopards,Eagles etc.) hunt by themselves. The Predator in P2 hunted by himself too. They are solitory hunters by nature.... they don't do teamwork. This solitary hunter has been mentioned a few times (i think in the game AVP2 sometimes) and other sources too. So you may be right about the exile bit, but Preds hunt alone anyway. Hunting in numbers just isn't honourable.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: izzet on Apr 09, 2004, 08:41:54 PM
What predators have in technology and intelligence, Alien is the ultimate pure breed specie that can multyply in numbers in seconds.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Growler on Apr 10, 2004, 12:03:28 AM
To Melmac:: if that is fact, where did you pick up that information to back that up?  To Olopolip:: Predator will hunt in pairs or more depending on the species they are hunting or the numbers they are up against.  Look at the original AVP comic books.  Book #1 there was group of Preds that were highly dis honored.  They attacked a common family that posed no threat at all.  By book # 3 or  # 4, the lead hunter recovered in time to observe one of the young predators attacking the human doctor that nurtured him back to health.  As he fought to protect her, he discovered the net of trophies the young predator had.  One trophy was a distinct human child, a skull smaller than the others.  Exile was not an option for the young predator.  Instead, a spear through the bottom jaw to the top of his cranium.
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Post by: Killer_Kakashi on Apr 10, 2004, 12:14:50 AM
To Growler: I think primarily though Preds will more often than not hunt alone. Better experience than in a group
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Post by: kysgr on Apr 10, 2004, 01:13:06 AM
Aliminator--- Biomechanical is organic living machine & i assume it would be able to breed or eve run a hive.  also i never attacked anyone. sorry if it looked that way. I understaind that everyone has their own beliefs but i was definding mine when they were attacked.  sorry everybody!
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Post by: Growler on Apr 10, 2004, 02:43:58 AM
To Killer_Kakashi :: You're absolutely right.  I was just commenting that there may can be situations where they's team up.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 10, 2004, 06:25:02 AM
to Melmac,I'm not saying your totaly wrong but I don't agree with what your saying.In Pred 2 its in L A with record heat and rampent crime wich atracts the Predators in the first place, but Gary Busey's character Peter Keyes says that he has been following them for fifteen years,that the FIRST Pred stalked and killed an elite special forces team w/only 2 survivors.Then he mentions hes tracked them in Iwo Jima,Cambodia,Beirut there drawn to heat."He's on Safari,the Lions the Tigers ,The Bears Oh,my".Then he says its taken him more than 2 weeks to learn his patterns.So to say that this group of Preds have been in the city for centuries I disagree and say that they have only been there since summer or since the wars/fighting/crime have been going on or both but not centuries.They have been coming to EARTH for centuries (the flintlock pistol from 1715) but for them to be under the city for a 100 years or so and them not doing anything until that time with not being noticed is kind of kooky if you ask me.Plus the ship seen in space in the first movie looks nothing like the one under the city in part 2.Now Melmac you could be right/wrong thats your opinion and I'm not nailin you for that but I am also giving my own wich may or may not be correct also,the only people who know for sure are the people who made the films and Stan Winston since he designed/created the Predator    :)     >:D 

Also in reply to :izzet",you say that the Alien is the ultimate 'pure bred' specie that can multiply in seconds.I disagree greatly,first to be a 'pure breed' you have to breed and reproduce w/your own kind.Aliens are born from different species of hosts so they are 'mixed' breed if anything.And second, how do you figure that they can multiply in 'seconds'.It's not an asexual creature that reproduses by binary fission, meaning it dosn't split from a 'parent' cell to create 1 or more copies of itself.The Aliens need hosts to go through there lifecycle ( egg-facehugger-host-chestburster then starts it's extremely fast growth period, scene in Alien 1 wich took hours for it to fully mature not seconds so I'm disagreeing with you statement.You have the right to your own opinion but I also have the right to mine so don't get mad or take offence to my remarks    ;D 
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Post by: PredatorDragon on Apr 10, 2004, 08:11:43 AM
@Saint Sinner Have you seen the making of P2. They stated  he was a younger Predator, faster.  If not, try to find it and watchit. "Besides, the first Predator spent the majority of the film simply picking off his targets in the distance using sniping tactics. I don't think he was honorable at all.  Also hunting on your own appears to be more worthy than coming to this planet with others whether for aliens or humans. " Oh and you forgot the 1st boy killed the 1st of dutch's boys not sniping. Hey there are a few that die very front on. You better watch the movie again man .Try watching both together and studying the hunting method. There is a big difference!!!!  Soldier boys will always be the ultimate Human prey. Who else maybe ninjas or parking inspectors hmmmmmmm.   Seeing that most of the Predators in AvP are young maybe hunting Aliens is not the ultimate. Humans have vast tech hardware and large array of weapons.  Going to a planet on your own is tough man. Not with any buddies does not help. You dont have anyone carrying you away:)  @Melmac Didn't the start of P2 with see heat vision moving very fast as thouhg we are in a ship?  Anyone noticed the queen picture in the trailer?
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Saint Sinner on Apr 10, 2004, 09:36:09 AM
"Have you seen the making of P2. They stated he was a younger Predator, faster. If not, try to find it and watchit."   What'd any of this have to do with the P2 Predator being younger? Of course I knew that. But you're speculating when you begin telling me the first Predator is older, wiser, more honorable, or what have you. None of that was ever explained, so it's up to the imagination.  "Also hunting on your own appears to be more worthy than coming to this planet with others whether for aliens or humans."  It "appears" that way, but then again, that's YOUR analysis. We'll see how "worthy" a small group hunt is compared to a lone hunt in August. I doubt the Predators found themselves in more danger in any of their other movies compared to what AVP will be.  "Oh and you forgot the 1st boy killed the 1st of dutch's boys not sniping. Hey there are a few that die very front on. You better watch the movie again man .Try watching both together and studying the hunting method. There is a big difference!!!!"  The hunts are dangerous and pose a huge risk to the Predator, nobody denies it, but like I said, the first Predator spent the "majority" of the movie using those tactics, I didn't say that was all he did. And I haven't brought the Predator from P2 into it.   "Soldier boys will always be the ultimate Human prey. Who else maybe ninjas or parking inspectors hmmmmmmm."  Ha, ha. ;)  "Seeing that most of the Predators in AvP are young maybe hunting Aliens is not the ultimate. Humans have vast tech hardware and large array of weapons. Going to a planet on your own is tough man. Not with any buddies does not help."  Humans do have technology and enough weapons to take care of some Predators, but Predators would destroy a human in un-armed 1 on 1 combat. There's a scene that's already been described in AVP where a Predator takes on an Alien in a fight. They are the ultimate prey, as Predator is the ultimate hunter. (I know that's a tagline) What's the challenge in slowly picking off armed humans in the distance? Their weapons suddenly aren't so useful when they can't spot a Pred. An Alien is basically a living weapon that, if not contained in the pyramid like they are, have the ability of multiplying rapidly and wiping out mankind.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Apr 10, 2004, 11:41:11 AM
im back indeed to set some things Straight!!!! lol just joking!    ;D     firstly, i agree with growler, dont dump on the comics they are the reason for the films existance. sure the prospect was hinted at in Predator 2 but the franchise continued with the comics, bringing new ideas to the tables, and in more ways than many would know, alot of the comic ideas have been ambiguously intergrated into the movie.  Psycomorph- the WHOLE predator existance is built upon honour and pride, just because you dont wan to believe it doesnt make it untrue, you seem to implement the idea that Predators kill for joy, when this is in complete and utter contrast to ALL novelisations or publications about predator, ie, comics, novels and even the movies. if the predator killed for "the joy" as you put it, then why didnt he kill the unarmed anna in predator, also another example, we see that they arent mindless killers is in predator 2 when the predator doesnt kill the boy in the graveyard, even after noting that he had a hand held weapon, BUT even still the Predator analyised the gun to see if it was real because there would be no HONOUR in killing a young helpless boy.. you just buy the idea, which is a pity, because if we all thought the way you did, Predator would just be another movie, that had no way for the audience to relate to it, and thus would not be as successful. the whole concept that attracted audiences was the idea of an alian that was part human,(in the mind) and that we could at least empatize with the creature in the end.... open your mind my friend.  Aliminator, i hear your only 16, i say fair play, i think if you worked on your idea for Predator 3 you could come up with a pretty cool storyline there, keep trying pal, and dont let anyone put you down.  finally, MELMAC- where in the holy heavens did you get that nifty little idea about predator 1?? everything you said about predator1 is completely inaccurate.im a ahrdcore fan of predator and ive never even heard of some of the stuff you managed to conjure.  -the featurette is fantastic, they look like they are doing good work. im not keen on the length of the wrist blades, but we'll see how things develop.  take care all! ill be back  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat..........-real pred
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Post by: Aliminator on Apr 10, 2004, 12:52:38 PM
LOL, WHICH OF YOU THINK IT'S GONNA BE MORE POPULAR, AVP OR HELLBOY???
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Bringer if Death on Apr 10, 2004, 01:19:24 PM
Depends, Hellboy will be seen by the more younger crowds and hopefuly AVP WILL be rated R so that leaves people over 18 to view it.Now whether that effects the popularity of the film I could care less but what i do care about is if the movie is getting a rated 'R' rating wich I pray it does for the franchises sake and ours.I do believe that this movie WILL be THE SUMMER Blockbuster its suposed to be and will collect the skulls of all the other competition it gets.   ;D     ;D  
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Post by: BobCat on Apr 10, 2004, 02:38:46 PM
STOP GIVING AWAY THE STORYLINE!!!! I WANT THE AVP MOVIE TO BE SHOCKING WHEN  I SEE IT!!!
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Post by: Joe on Apr 10, 2004, 03:41:38 PM
I'm a big predator fan, and they def. have a code of honor that they follow, its common knowlege. I kinda think of them as samurai like following a code like bushido....anyway the predator rocks, and the alien is cool too. By the way if the background story of the original predator movie is as melmac claims then why did the pred kill jim hopper and his crew b4 they could even prove their worth.
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Post by: Growler on Apr 10, 2004, 04:41:40 PM
Here's a fun tip. Go do a search on "Alien vs Predator R P-13" and see how many links put a PG-13 next to the AVP title and how many put an R.  I came across one article that talks about the majority of movies being made this year shooting for a PG-13 rating. The most interesting part of the article is this:    "Anyone who watches movies knows that what passes for a PG-13 movie these days likely would have been rated R just a few years ago. Just as soon as the FTC clamped down on marketing R-rated movies, the PG-13 rating almost simultaneously expanded to allow for more violence and even a little more sex, studio executives say.  Even with close-up battle scenes, each of the three "Lord of the Rings" movies was rated PG-13, and despite a barrage of double-entendres, every "Austin Powers" film was, as well. Although it, too, is rated PG-13, "Secret Window" includes a screwdriver jammed into (and extracted from) a human head, then stabbed into a leg."    Here's the rest of the Article.  http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/living/8357977.htm (http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/living/8357977.htm)

damn, my bad.  That's run a search for "Alien vs Predator R PG-13" not the P-13.  typical error, so cut my head off with a throwing disk will ya?
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: izzet on Apr 10, 2004, 06:33:03 PM
In reply to Bringer of death, i completley agree with what you have said, i actually meant to put down the Alien is the perfect organism matched only by it's own hostility (as stated by Ash). And you are right in saying the Alien does not multiply in seconds, even though with the right amount of hosts it's reproductive rate is preety fast, Just look at Aliens and what they did to them colonists. Probaly the point im trying to make is weather a Predator could kill an Alien with it's bare fists, instead of using all it's fancy technology, then again they were intelligent enough to come up with them.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Psychomorph on Apr 10, 2004, 09:13:25 PM
Written by THE REAL PREDATOR: "Psycomorph- the WHOLE predator existance is built upon honour and pride, just because you dont wan to believe it doesnt make it untrue, you seem to implement the idea that Predators kill for joy, when this is in complete and utter contrast to ALL novelisations or publications about predator, ie, comics, novels and even the movies. if the predator killed for "the joy" as you put it, then why didnt he kill the unarmed anna in predator, also another example, we see that they arent mindless killers is in predator 2 when the predator doesnt kill the boy in the graveyard, even after noting that he had a hand held weapon, BUT even still the Predator analyised the gun to see if it was real because there would be no HONOUR in killing a young helpless boy.. you just buy the idea, which is a pity, because if we all thought the way you did, Predator would just be another movie, that had no way for the audience to relate to it, and thus would not be as successful. the whole concept that attracted audiences was the idea of an alian that was part human,(in the mind) and that we could at least empatize with the creature in the end.... open your mind my friend."    Well in the first movie trailer they said "It comes for the thrill of the hunt". If you see the first pred, he uses his shouldercannon the most, because it is his primal hunting weapon and it is not "unhonorable". and don
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Apr 10, 2004, 10:42:29 PM
psychomorph!- in all fairness, everything youve said can just as easily be said to justify the opposition to your argument, i appreciate that you havent replied to my comment in an attacking way and that you didnt take it up wrong by thinking that i wish to wage war upon you. but, it is all about honour, sure i agree with you that they derive EXTREME pleasure from the kills, no-ones debating that, the question is whether or not the predators attain an honour, and its as joe said above, is blatent "common knowledge" that they do.  you can go on and on in saying that there was no "fun" in killing a boy or in killing a pregnant woman, but i can just as easily say that there is no honour in it, so if you really think about it ya really havent furthered your previous statement in any way?!?! im all for people giving their opinions, and if you wish to believe that the predators really dont uphold any "honour" in what they do, then thats your own choice ya know, i aint gona ramb it down your throat, its just a commonly and well known FACT that the predators not only hunt for the joy and glory but with it comes the attachment of honour, and there is no joy in an unhonourable hunt, THAT IS the very apex of what we're talking about here.  -lets say what you propose is true then why, if a predator is injured do they end their own lives when unable to continue the hunt?-it surely isnt because at the end, they are thinking to themselves "oh well, now that im mamed to within an inch of my life, theres no fun in the hunt" - its simply because there is no HONOUR in, to them what would be a meaningless existance-its similar to the klingons in star trek. also, the samurai build their culture and fighting style around honour, and guess what, the predator concept was modelled on the samurai and ancient japenese warriors.-the physicality of such parallels is, to a degree, seen in the weapons of the predator.-which on SOME occasions are also modelled on samurai.-even taking the new film for example- the new throwing disk remarkably resembles the old chinese death stars..  i feel ive made my point, but i think to say that the predators dont have honour, is not only defying the logic of all that has been publicised and novelised, aswell as an abundant common knowledge, but is also like saying that President Bush is an intelligent man.  anyway, take care my friend, and remember, peace in the comment rooms! lol     ;)    Forte Fortuna Adjuvat.............-real pred
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Predboy on Apr 11, 2004, 01:31:26 AM
You're kind of right Psycomorph, but still the predators do look more better, fiece, taller, and more alien like. Not the aliens from the movie.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Psychomorph on Apr 11, 2004, 02:40:35 AM
I wrote: "P.S. in many ways predators are too humanlike in the movies."  Damn, I meant "in many ways predators are too humanlike in the COMICS".
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: shakermakerman on Apr 11, 2004, 03:50:44 AM
  ???   whats all this talk about the dna from the space jocky the ,ship was carrying the eggs as weapons. he died from a chest burster yes  but the eggs was allready there, it was a bio war ship witch ridley scott wants to put in the next alien film...as for a v p iv been waiting over 10 years for this film and it wont be crap(suck to the americans) anderson knows his stuff look at eventhorizen long live a v p   ;D     ;D 
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Izzet on Apr 11, 2004, 03:56:17 AM
Just for anyone that thinks the predator is a better designed creature than the Alien, Look in Empire magazine wheir the Alien was voted 3rd best monster in the movies, while Predator did'nt make the top ten... (I think the predators cool by the way but im i the only fan rooting for the Alien in this movie!??)
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 11, 2004, 06:01:32 AM
Is there an actual animated movie of AVP?if so I wouldn't mind having that for my collection.For all you guys arguing over the 'HONOR' thing I think they have some kind of honor code that depends on the type,size,physicality and threat of the prey at hand.Now to compare them to the Samurai culture isnt really the most correct thing to compare them to,I agree with PSYCHOMORPH when he compared there honor code with more barbarian like characteristics and to even go as far as to say there ways are almost perverted like in nature(spine ripping and skull collecting).But I also agree with THE REAL PREDATOR when he says they derive EXTREAM pleasure from there kills.I believe that they are also ADRENALIN JUNKIES, thats why they fiend to hunt the prey that will offer up the most challenge and risk.Thats also why they pass up the "weaker" less dangerous prey(little kids,pregnant women,unarmed people-prey).You also see this theory made to fact in the upcoming AVP movie, how they modified the Predator vision so that they can see 'into' there prey to see if they are even worthy enough to be killed(seeing there insides-organs-muscles how physicaly advanced they are).If they don't meet there hunting standards they will prob. be passed up.   ???  P.S to Izzet I'm glad you didnt take my comments offensive or personal and I also agree with you in that the ALIEN  is by far the better looking and designed.But I also Love the look and style if the PREDATOR AND LOVE TO DRAW BOTH CHARACTERS LIKE THE GODS THEY ARE   ;D     ;D  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Psychomorph on Apr 11, 2004, 07:01:46 AM
Bringer of Death wrote: "I believe that they are also ADRENALIN JUNKIES, thats why they fiend to hunt the prey that will offer up the most challenge and risk."  Absolutely, as in the first predator movie said: "they come of the thrill of the hunt". It
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Ninja on Apr 11, 2004, 07:23:10 AM
Lasting impression from this featurette:  "Holy crap!  Preds have EYEBROWS!!"    :)   Anderson wasn't kidding when he said that the faces of the predators were going to be better articulated
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 11, 2004, 07:42:25 AM
I agree with you again there PSYCHOMORPH, the original helmets do look stranger more alienesk but I also liked a lot of the more complex and articulate masks the Preds were wearing in the second film and in AVP it shows they have different tastes and characteristic to seperate one from the other, wich in hand shows that there thinking is alot more diverse and creative than just having bloodlust and 'trophies'on there minds.They might actualy have a sense of style   :)  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: shakermakerman on Apr 11, 2004, 08:12:41 AM
yes bringer of death, theres a fan film made of aliens vs predator i got the trailer of kazaa . but i read something on planetavp that the fan got some bother off fox about it.. i just seen batman dead end wich has aliens and predators in it i thought it was ok... and theres an other fan made film of a v p coming out wich is based on the film.. but any way the creatures look fantastic in this.. ps i think the predators look better and the different helmets are for rank, we dont want them all to look the same do we.. that bloke in the pred suits a big lad aint he lol
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Dallas on Apr 11, 2004, 08:40:21 AM
I agree with you IZZET, and i think the Alien is the best designed movie monster of all time. Even ways better than the pred! BUT: on all the avp pictures the predator is a little bit  more detailed than the alien and he look better than the alien here. its a little bit sad that ADI doesnt change the look of the xenos from Resurrection and take it to AvP. They should go back to the first ultimate Gigerstyle!!!
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: ALIENS on Apr 11, 2004, 09:26:02 AM
i hope the predator use more hand to hand combat with the aliens in the movie,i want to see a predator pick up a alien a throw it through a F___king wall!, i want to see some heavy duty action in this film DAMMIT!   >:D  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 11, 2004, 09:56:34 AM
To SHAKERMAKER I agree with Preds having diff. helmets for rank.My opinion is that the larger and more extravagant the armarment the higher 'rank' or 'seniority' the Pred has in the clan.Like in PRED 2 the clan Leader/Elder had lots of skulls/trophies strung all over his upper body and his Plasm Caster was much larger and more off-set than the others, also his laser guide was set on the caster rather than on his helmet.The LEAD Pred in AVP seems to be going with a 'LARGER Plasma caster than the others, it almost looks as if he has 2 of them on his back unless this is just the " LARGEST OF THE 'LASER' CANNONS" that Tom Woodruff talks about in the featurette.We'll have to wait and see I guess.   ;D     ;D     ;D 

@Dallas....You are 100% right with everything you said up there,I couldn't agree more about the design of the Aliens in AVP.They are just a modified version of the shity designed ALIEN RESURECTION models, wich 'licked ball sac'.Gigers is by far the superior version of them all but I also really like Camerons idea to remove the transparent 'dome' off of the heads of the Alien.It really looks bad-ass and freakier I think when you see there bony membrain like heads rather than there smooth ones.I believe that they loose there 'domes' after a certain time when there are done maturing,It acts like a 'helmet of some sorts to protect there membrain underneath until mature enough.Thats just my opinion not fact.To SHAKERMAKER do you know if those movies are still downloadable on Kazza?   ??? 
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Aliminator on Apr 11, 2004, 12:29:41 PM
i think predators DO HAVE code of honor, i mean in the first predator movie, very last scene, when the predator fought Dutch without high-tech weapons. JUST HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT.  also, he previously used high-tech weapons to HUNT, I MEAN HELLO!!!!! THERE IS NO HONOR IN HUNTING!!!!!!!!!!! I MEAN WHO NOW WOULD HUNT A LION OR AN ELEPHANT WITH FISTS, SPEAR, AXE, ETC....  just my opnion   ;D  .......peace, every avp fan.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Saint Sinner on Apr 11, 2004, 12:57:03 PM
Another good example of Predators being somewhat modeled after the samurai, is suicide. Commiting "seppuku" as it is known.  Disgrace and defeat were atoned by committing hara-kiri or seppuku in the samurai culture, among other things, and even though the Predators don't stab themselves (which was their form of self destruction) the Predator does so in a literal sense of those two words, but can take his enemy with him. A kind of, "If I'm going down, I'm taking you with me." It serves as different mechanisms of defeat, but the general idea is there.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Growler on Apr 11, 2004, 07:09:04 PM
Damn, this is a long debate about honor, helmets, and Alien comparisons. It's pretty much all a matter of opinion or best guesses when it comes to these issuses.  So i'll offer mine for poops and giggles.    Honor and Predators:  I don't think it matters as to how we look at them.  It's what the Predators think of themselves.  They prefer to hunt with some tactics we find pathetic, while other methods you might say admirable.  For they're not so prized targets, they seem to go with the element of surprise.  Snipering from a distance or jumping into a moving subway train or slaughter house while it's all dark and everyon'e confused. Then he gets man to man, and that's when it gets honorable.  When he fights someone or something that won't give up the fight till either one of them falls. They honor themselves with pride.  The trophy cases speak for themselves. Now the end of Predator 2 is debatible.  You could say the dragging of the dead pred was in some honorable ceremonial fashion.  But you could also say that well, maybe those 2 that carried the body away were close friends of the fallen.   We can't really know until we actually see what goes on in a Predator society.  Predator Helmets: It could be an indication of rank, could also be a self esteem boost.  They might think, "well my mask is better cause it stunned this many people i was killing than yours did."  Ha yeah right.  Well there's definately an indication that some Predators can be creative, probably designing their own masks if they just wanted to.  I mean how many of you guys try to alter their appearance if all of you were wearing the same damn thing as everybody else?  So it could just very well be the Predators are their own individuals, and the masks distinctly shows it.  Aliens:  They never stay with the same design thru the years do they?    You know, it doesn't really bother me how much they change, just as long as they remain scary.       Aliens and Predator both go for the element of surprise.  That's what makes these 2 creatures worth watching.  You know they're there.  You know they want to kill you.  You just don't know when they'll strike.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Dallas on Apr 11, 2004, 09:09:09 PM
@Bringer Of Death: Thats a brilliant Idea....i mean your thoughts with the Alien Dome. I wish they would take this to the Movies.  There is another Point wich make me a litlle bit angry. Iam a big Predfriend too, but iam really pissed off about some Predfans who allways keep the Alienrespect down. I mean all that AvP-Stuff, Games Comics ect. is based on ALIEN. Even the whole Plot of the upcomming Movie is more a Alienorientated thing. John McTiernan shows his respect for the Alien on the Predator-SE and he is the Maker of the ultimate Huntermovie.  So i wish that the Fans show a little more respect to each other. This Movie is for Both sides.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: izzet on Apr 11, 2004, 09:58:06 PM
Exactly Dallas, im a big fan of Predator too, but i wish pred fans showed more respect for the Aliens. Predator might not even existed if it wasnt for the success of Aliens released a year before Predator. Alien kickstarted the sci-fi/horror genre and Fox made Predator because they knew this genre was successful.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Dallas on Apr 12, 2004, 01:47:00 AM
Nice to have someone in here who understand what its all about the Alien and the Predator ;-)  I mean not all of the Fans are like i said before. I have some Friends, Predfans and Alienfans.  The Predfans have all the Alienmovies and the Alienfans have all the Predmovies too. I mean there is not so much difference between the quality of them that someone can say i like the Predators but i hate Aliens. Of course this Kind of Kiddies do exist (Lol) but for me its absolutely Bullshit!  For me the Alien is more a Classic, and the Pred is a realy cool Badass.
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: shakermakerman on Apr 12, 2004, 01:57:40 AM
to BRINGER OF DEATH i only got the trailer for the anime its hard to get    >:D     >:D   but i here theres colonial marines elite force film u can down load but u need divx for it have you seen batman dead end? thats not a bad fan film thats easy to get hold of all u need is quicktime.PS the aliens will look better on film have faith but....GIGER ROCKS... I think its the alien sholders that give it away   >:D   but on film they will look fantastic PS PS it look like on one alien head that he gets court in a pred net bless him ahhhhhhhh
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Psychomorph on Apr 12, 2004, 02:02:17 AM
Well I
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Dallas on Apr 12, 2004, 04:03:09 AM
@Psychomorph: Yeah thats no proplem ;-) for me its the Alien, but hey...everybody have its favorite. I like the Weapons and the style of the Pred very much. But i like the Monsterthing more. And the Alien is a very elegant, kind of sexy Monster. A realy beautyful Nightmare-creature........Never seen befor...and never see again!!!!
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 12, 2004, 04:41:45 AM
I hope people are still around reading this,I live in Canada and the time is 2:30pm.This is to DALLAS and IZZET,I totaly agree with what you guys say.Predator prob. most likely would not even exist if it weren't for the release of ALIEN back in 79 to pave the way for SCI-FI-HORROR films.I love the Predator character/design but it all started for me when I was 7-8 years old and snuck a peek at ALIEN.I was hooked ever since,it wasn't until 88-89 when my Dad showed me ALIENS he said it was his fav. movie at the time and he also showed me a little movie staring the Gov. of Cali Mr. Schwarzenegger.PREDATOR.After seeing both those films hundreds of times I became obsessed,all I would do is draw/make comics/stories of these 2 superstars of sci-fi horror.Now for people to like only 1 of these creatures and not they other is to say you love girls but you hate sex,I mean they go hand in hand with each other so how can you not like both.Ok you might have a fav. but to not give credit where credit is due is just wrong.   >:D 

@DALLAS, You put it absolutely right on the money when you described the ALIEN to be an "elegant, kind of sexy monster".I couldnt have said it better myself, and I think that was GIGER's original intention for his creation to be very scary yet sexy,mysterious at the same time.@SHAKERMAKER,I'm not to familiar with 'divx'.What is it and were do I get it because I would like to see these fan films you have suggested,especialy to see BATMAN get the shit kicked out of him by the more dominent species P.S are you talking about the GRID HEAD ALIEN in AVP?   ??? 
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: izzet on Apr 12, 2004, 05:22:33 AM
I further agree with Bringer of death and dallas, the alien in the original was an elegant and smooth (yet terrifying) creature, then again i didnt find it sexy (only jokin, i know what u guys meant unless u prefer a differant species to men and women)   ;D   + FOR ANY BRITONS, IF U R A BIG AVP FAN, PAUL ANDERSONS EVENT HORIZON IS ON BBC1 TONIGHT (A CHANCE TO SEE HIS EARLIER WORK AND SEE IF HE CAN CRANCK UP THE SCARES AND TENSION FOR AVP!!)

Anyone notice the excitement of the second featurrete has stopped us complaining about the PG-13 certificate? perhaps FOX have deliberatley released it to side track our attentions.... sneaky b******ds
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 12, 2004, 05:58:56 AM
Meaning what that there still going for a PG-13 rating? and just feeding us this to make us loose track of the real issue at hand, 'IT NOT BEING RATED R'.I think it will be just by seeing all the teasers and the fact that all the Preds weapons have been beefed up.I dont think they wouldn't do that if there not going to show them in action slicing and dicing through Alien/Human carcass as well as blasting holes through there chests.Then again I prey I'm right and it's not PG-13,that would really SUCK.For IZZET, when I was describing the Alien as 'sexy' I was decribing it's sleek and smooth feartures and its humanesk attributes, like lips and what not.Not that I think it's hot and want to give it a hot beef injection or somthing ya sicko! just crakin I know what your sayin.Peace
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: izzet on Apr 12, 2004, 06:44:41 AM
Good point Bringer of Death, more evidence it wont be PG-13 is the 2nd featurette. why would they make the Preds wrist blade 4 times longer if he's not going to use it?
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 12, 2004, 06:54:27 AM
Damn right, they better not just be for show.Plus in the new 'featurette' right in the begining of it there is a whole body cast of someone wich I believe will be getting pretty messed up and I don't think PG-13 would have some guy strung upside down ready to be skinned or decapitated or both, unless its going to be a fade to black kind of shot were you just hear the guy scream his last scream befor he dies and don't actualy see it.But seriously I dont think Paul Anderson would be macking this film if it isnt going to be rated R, just listen to how much the guy swears.He's has to incorperate that in his movies and lots of violence   ;D  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Rusty Nails on Apr 12, 2004, 08:33:17 AM
Lol, yeah, Paul can't keep one F**k out of any sentance he uses. :P I wouldn't worry about the rating, he'll bring us the goods I'm sure.  -Rusty Nails
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Post by: shakermakerman on Apr 12, 2004, 11:18:56 AM
yeah the grid head alien looks like a pred net got to it BRINGER OF DEATH heres the link for that batman movie all u need is quicktime u can get that free http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 12, 2004, 11:54:46 AM
If your talkin about the one in the AVP movie,thats the idea.It escaped from the net after its blood ate through it and thats why its scared that way with all the criss cross design.I'm d loading it right now even though its takin forever   >:D  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: THE REAL PREDATOR on Apr 13, 2004, 01:25:51 AM
hello all, im back yet again.  i agree, im a far bigger Predator fan than i am Aliens, but we gotta respect the Alien franchise, the first to alien movies are spectacular.  you seem to be well informed fans of BOTH franchises, i salute you all!!!! lol  well, im off, just thought id throw a comment in while i was checking my email.  Forte Fortuna Adjuvat........-real pred
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Dallas on Apr 13, 2004, 02:26:27 AM
Thanks and Greetz to all. Finaly some People who agree with me ;-)  @Bringer of Death: -..its to say you love girls but you hate sex. -  Hehehehe absolutly brilliant speech. Thats exactly what i mean.    And this is for all the Babys who say that the Aliens are weak and stupid. If they be like this...why would a Pred hunt them?  He only take care of the biggest chalenge and look for the ultimate Thrill. A stupid and weak Prey means nothing to him! Think about it..... if you can ;-P
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Post by: Vekin on Apr 13, 2004, 09:02:33 AM
I must say this design of the alien for AVP is definitely more satisfying then the previous alien movie AR.
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Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 13, 2004, 11:42:12 AM
To DALLAS, Your right again my friend about the PREDATORS hunting the ALIENS because there are extremely tough and challenging.The Predators strive on hunting only the most strongest and dangerous prey in the universe.The ALIENS are just that and more especialy when in large numbers.I'm sure we'll see lots of PREDATOR death in AVP because the ALIENS are no pussies, they are a very dangerous and ferocious beasts that are programed to destroy anything they find as a threat to them or there colony/hive   ;D  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Dallas on Apr 14, 2004, 03:39:28 AM
@Bringer of Death: we are in the same boat :-) @ izzet:  Thats the reason why i love them :D @Vekin: Right. But believe me, even the AR Aliens are not that bad.(Sure, nothing can compare with the Gigerstyle!). ADI made a big mistake and put to much slime over their creatures. Even the hated newborn looks much cooler in some of the making of scenes or maquettes, but it sucks in the most scenes of the finished film.  What do you guys think of who is the deadliest species in the univerese? I have a very logical answer to that but i wanna hear your statements first. Greetz to all Dallas.
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Post by: Bringer of Death on Apr 14, 2004, 10:08:25 AM
Thats a hard question to answer there DALLAS but I think I would have to say the ALIENS because of there ability to adapt to any environment and there unpredictability as a creature is what makes them so strong and deadly.Don't get me wrong though I love the Preds, there a kick ass monster and very high tec indeedbut if you have a queen anywere there is sure to be a large and growing hive to follow.Now in terms of a one on one fight between the 3 species, us,aliens and preds that all depends on the surrounding and sercumstances.If you in a wide open area that gives advantages to Predator smart weaponsand human firearms, if your in tight confinements the Aliens quick and vicious mentality I think would have the advantage there.All in all its a tough one so prob. the only right answer is whoever your fav is I guess.To the Star Wars remark,I think Star Wars is f**kin lame!!!!!,mabey the fist couple are all right but the more they keep making the suckier they get.Now that statment my piss a few people iff so thats just my opinion not fact all you jedi freeks out there.    ;D  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Dallas on Apr 15, 2004, 05:46:30 AM
Hahaha, you are great Bringer of Death, but you are right too. I like the first three Star Wars Episodes. I mean Star Wars, Empire..and Return..that should be clear. The "new" Episodes suck in anyway. Bad Effects, and horrible Actors. I think the young Anakin in Attack of the Clowns  ...ehm..Clones, look like a gay Boygroupmember. You also on the right way with the deadliest Badass in Space. Thats realy a matter of the Situation but from the hostile Point, the Alien make the Race.  Look, a Pred dont care about weak or maybe ill Persons. He dont Kill Children or impregnated Woman. So if you gonna meet a Pred with no weapons, he will kick you away because thats no chalenge for him. An Alien dont give a f**k abaout that all. It kills everything, no matter how old or something. And it would never Team up with Humans ;-) because its to simple in its existence. Killing and Breeding thats all. A Pred can choose the Way of his hunt. But an Alien is like a programmed Weapon. And that is the Reason for me to say the Alien is by far more dangerous as a Pred. Its not bcause iam Alienfan some of my Predloverfriends think in the same way. No one must agree with me in this point. Its my opinion but i think its a very logical one.
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Post by: izzet on Apr 16, 2004, 06:28:12 AM
Bringer of death and Dallas, i salute you. I too think the Alien is the most ruthel and deadliest killing machine in the alien/pred universe. What i hate the most about Alien resurrection is the fact the Aliens are so inferior, one shot and youve got a lot of acid, at least in the first and third there is a hint of indestructability. Aliens is just taking the piss (it's still a masterpeice though!) and spiderman2... imagine spiderman v alien, it would be battle of the cocconing (have i spelt that wrong?)   ;D 
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Post by: PredatorDragon on Apr 16, 2004, 07:47:47 AM
Hi @ Sanit man..  Thanks for your replys. Interesting yes hmmm. But just a few points to get some clearing up. Hmmmm. "Besides, the first Predator spent the majority of the film simply picking off his targets in the distance using sniping tactics. I don't think he was honorable at all. He may have disarmed himself (still had the wrist-blades) but that could also be a sign of arrogance." Then.... " but like I said, the first Predator spent the "majority" of the movie using those tactics, I didn't say that was all he did". The old switchy tactic,,, haaaaa.... Majority of his time spent was not sniping. Count them when you watch the movie. It actually does not fall under majority of time of kills heeeeee... Hmmmmm.......  Also  "Personally, I agree somewhat with Anderson's outlook on the two Predators, being novices because they haven't earned the right to hunt Aliens." Which 2 Predators, if your are including the 2nd one P2 also. Hmmmmmm didnt he have an Alien trophy on his walll....... Hmmmmmmm..... "The Predators in AVP are passed the human hunting phase" Hmmmmm Then the one in P2 is going backwards in his skills regarding andersons and your theory. Wowwwww.  Anyone noticed the Queens teeth in the internet trailer???????? Anyone????????????????????    :)     8) 

Has anyone seen the facehugger crawling on the Predator. It looks real great !!!!  They also stated something about the Queen at the end.  This movie will have some great bits. Andersons is showing himself commented. But why leave Stan Winston out oh mannnn... Even Giger????????? But big cannons???????  Hey Quick Questions. If the humans did not go down their. What would the Predators use as hosts. Many be anderson may show us or not. Oh I know penguins. Wow Penguins aliens. Image sliding on the ice and  they would be one of the most cutiest monsters around. eeeeeeeeeeh.       ??? 
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Aliminator on Apr 17, 2004, 01:44:44 AM
LOL, predator dragon, great idea, or polar bear alien, and seal alien, LOL   ;D  
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Post by: PredatorsRock on Apr 18, 2004, 03:27:23 PM
3 words: It's the best!!
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Post by: ALIENS on Apr 19, 2004, 06:52:07 AM
Let me tell you something ALiminator star war fans are abounch of pussies,if they are watching alien films they should stop because i wouldnt want them to have any nightmares,THE wHOLE WORLD OF AVP is adult entertainment,not for kids to watch and cheer at,you need to have a certain taste,and a eye to watch a alien/predator film and truly understand it,and i can tell you star war fans dont have it,and ill tell you why, star war is the is a candy land version of evil and darkness put in veiw where evil a slap in the face,and aliens/predator film is the heart of darkness where the KILLER of killers live to blow your head off..............................get the point?   8)  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Lt.Bank on Apr 20, 2004, 01:42:09 AM
Did I hear correclty that in the featurette I heard the word "Queen"?? as in Alien Queen?
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: pred on Apr 20, 2004, 09:57:31 PM
the aliens in this movie looks better than the aliens in the previous 4 alien films. the predator looks better than the other two. so this is going to be better than the other aliens and predator films put together      :-\  
Title: Re: New AvP Featurette Released!
Post by: Growler on Apr 22, 2004, 02:41:37 AM
to Dallas:: well, the obvious answer to your question is of course Aliens.  They simply have no mercey for anyone or anything.   To STAR WARS fans:: read what ALIENS said.  Your movie is like a damn circus.  Full of colors, lights, fancy looking creatures, and a lot of faggoty acrobatics.  It's a cute little story... for kids.