Robert Rodrigiez's Troublemaker Studios is working fast as they plan on shooting Predators, their reboot of Predator on September 28th in Austin, Texas, where they are currently lensing Machete. Being helmed by Nimrod Antal (Vacancy, Bloody Disgusting has learned exclusively that they are currently seeking a "Black", "Asian", "Russian" and "Latino" marine. Got to have some flavor in this "prequel".
In this version, a group of humans will find themselves stranded on a planet home to Predators and must survive the horrors they encounter. James Cameron pulled a similar move with his advancement of the "Alien" franchise in his "Aliens."
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/17080
Quote from: Darkoo on Aug 14, 2009, 08:07:28 PM
Got to have some flavor in this "prequel".
Wait.... What?!
-Rakai'Thwei
I'm just waiting to see how this screws up now.
"Black", "Asian", "Russian" and "Latino" marine.
Hm..interesting.
Just have The Expendables fight The Predators and everyone will be happy no matter what. I know I would.
My question still wasn't answered... So this is a prequel now? Reboot? Sequel?
What?
-Rakai'Thwei
How bad ass would it be if those marines used pulse rifles and smart guns! Hey, both Alien and Pred franchises have crossed over many times before, they could do it again!
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 14, 2009, 08:28:19 PM
My question still wasn't answered... So this is a prequel now? Reboot? Sequel?
What?
-Rakai'Thwei
Just wait until we hear something that confirms it.....or not.
QuoteMy question still wasn't answered... So this is a prequel now? Reboot? Sequel?
What?
Its either a sequel or a prequel, it isn't a remake that plays in a different timeline that you so desperately want it to be.
I explain it to you once again, it's known as a reboot because the franchise is being revived after a long time absence from the big screen, it is a sequel (or prequel) after all.
People said the same thing about Rambo 2008, it still was a sequel.
QuoteI'm just waiting to see how this screws up now.
Because the cast consists of Black, Asian, Russian and Latino dudes? :-\
Dolph Lundgren for the Russian!
Expect Danny Trejo to be in this film... Or Cheech Marin. Or George Lopez.
Rodriguez ALWAYS uses those three guys.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 14, 2009, 08:38:19 PM
Expect Danny Trejo to be in this film... Or Cheech Marin.
Rodriguez ALWAYS uses those two guys.
-Rakai'Thwei
Don't expect Trejo as he shoots
Machete in a week or so, also directed by Rodriguez.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 14, 2009, 08:40:03 PM
Don't expect Trejo as he shoots Machete in a week or so, also directed by Rodriguez.
Then we are to expect Cheech Marin or George Lopez. ...If worst comes to worst, then maybe Antonio Banderas.
Of course, Raymond Cruz, the guy who played DiStephano in Resurrection would be a good idea.
-Rakai'Thwei
QuoteOf course, Raymond Cruz, the guy who played DiStephano in Resurrection would be a good idea.
Dont like the guy at all.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 14, 2009, 08:43:05 PM
QuoteOf course, Raymond Cruz, the guy who played DiStephano in Resurrection would be a good idea.
Dont like the guy at all.
It's hard picturing Luis Guzman in this film. Ha ha ha ha ha! ;D
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 14, 2009, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 14, 2009, 08:43:05 PM
QuoteOf course, Raymond Cruz, the guy who played DiStephano in Resurrection would be a good idea.
Dont like the guy at all.
It's hard picturing Luis Guzman in this film. Ha ha ha ha ha! ;D
-Rakai'Thwei
So hard that i just cant.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 14, 2009, 08:34:55 PM
QuoteMy question still wasn't answered... So this is a prequel now? Reboot? Sequel?
What?
Its either a sequel or a prequel, it isn't a remake that plays in a different timeline that you so desperately want it to be.
I explain it to you once again, it's known as a reboot because the franchise is being revived after a long time absence from the big screen, it is a sequel (or prequel) after all.
People said the same thing about Rambo 2008, it still was a sequel.
QuoteI'm just waiting to see how this screws up now.
Because the cast consists of Black, Asian, Russian and Latino dudes? :-\
No, I said that cus of the whole prequel thing....if it's the same story and a prequel, then i will be hilarious for me.
Quote from: Darkoo on Aug 14, 2009, 08:18:30 PM
"Black", "Asian", "Russian" and "Latino" marine.
Hm..interesting.
Now all we need is Jason David Frank. ::)
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: jayhy17 on Aug 14, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
How bad ass would it be if those marines used pulse rifles and smart guns! Hey, both Alien and Pred franchises have crossed over many times before, they could do it again!
-Pulls out Bible of the Trinity-
QuoteNo, I said that cus of the whole prequel thing....if it's the same story and a prequel, then i will be hilarious for me.
They probably just misunderstood something there.
Rodriguez already said that it will be a sequel.
QuoteHow bad ass would it be if those marines used pulse rifles and smart guns! Hey, both Alien and Pred franchises have crossed over many times before, they could do it again!
I've murdered so many people, i could do it again!
Well Gamble aka Spawn is gonna be the black guy most likely. For the latino I bet Freddy Rodriguez.
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Aug 14, 2009, 09:29:22 PM
For the latino I bet Freddy Rodriguez.
Isn't that Rob's brother or something?
Talk about favouritism.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 14, 2009, 08:40:03 PM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 14, 2009, 08:38:19 PM
Expect Danny Trejo to be in this film... Or Cheech Marin.
Rodriguez ALWAYS uses those two guys.
-Rakai'Thwei
Don't expect Trejo as he shoots Machete in a week or so, also directed by Rodriguez.
Well, if he's in Texas and already in front of the camera, how hard is it for him to be in it?
Quote from: mjacobson on Aug 14, 2009, 09:56:25 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 14, 2009, 08:40:03 PM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 14, 2009, 08:38:19 PM
Expect Danny Trejo to be in this film... Or Cheech Marin.
Rodriguez ALWAYS uses those two guys.
-Rakai'Thwei
Don't expect Trejo as he shoots Machete in a week or so, also directed by Rodriguez.
Well, if he's in Texas and already in front of the camera, how hard is it for him to be in it?
Just because he is also in Texas shooting a movie there doesn't mean he will be in this one also.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 14, 2009, 09:38:43 PM
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Aug 14, 2009, 09:29:22 PM
For the latino I bet Freddy Rodriguez.
Isn't that Rob's brother or something?
Talk about favouritism.
-Rakai'Thwei
I'm pretty sure they aren't related at all.
Quote from: severen76 on Aug 14, 2009, 10:29:06 PM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 14, 2009, 09:38:43 PM
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Aug 14, 2009, 09:29:22 PM
For the latino I bet Freddy Rodriguez.
Isn't that Rob's brother or something?
Talk about favouritism.
-Rakai'Thwei
I'm pretty sure they aren't related at all.
They aren't.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 14, 2009, 08:28:19 PM
My question still wasn't answered... So this is a prequel now? Reboot? Sequel?
What?
-Rakai'Thwei
Dude dude dude dude. Relax.
Relax. It's a sequel. They made a boo boo. It
happens.
Cast advert with character descriptions:
QuoteAugust 16, 2009
Casting Call For SAG Twentieth Century-Fox Feature Film in Austin, Texas
By: Chris Weidner Category: Austin, Casting/Crew Calls
Casting Call For SAG Twentieth Century-Fox Feature Film in Austin, Texas.
Studio/Independent/Student: Studio
Union/Non-Union: SAG
Project Type: Feature Film
Production Company: Twentieth Century-Fox
Location: Austin, Texas
Start Date: Sept. 28, 2009
Character Breakdowns:
ASIAN MALE - 30s. Slender, stealthy and a master with the katana. A man of few words...LEAD
BLACK MALE - 30s - 40s. Quiet but full of deadly old-world wisdom. A natural-born killer not afraid to die. Authentic African...LEAD
RUSSIAN MALE - 30s - 40s. Frightening bear of a man...shoot first, ask questions later...LEAD
LATINO MALE - 30s - 40s. Hardened, brutal...Danny Trejo type...LEAD
Paid/Non-Paid: Paid
Meals/Transportation Provided: Meals
Email:
Contact PMT and let them know which role you are submitting for at info@profmodelsandtalent.com
Website: http://www.profmodelsandtalent.com/
http://www.shortfilmtexas.com/2009/casting-call-for-sag-twentieth-century-fox-feature-film-in-austin-texas/
holy CRAP! i KNEW it! i frickin' knew it the second i saw that casting call go out for a specific set of races. what a shitty sad joke. OOOOOOOOF COURSE the asian has a katana, of course its the wise black man, of course its the giant "bear" of a russian... holy SHIT this is stupid. i'm SO glad they're developing a saturday morning cartoon for my favorite franchise! i'm sure the latino is going to say a bunch of angry dialogue in spanish to which other people can tell him to "stop speakin' mexican, we can't understandzya! huh huh!" drivel. shit. if these are the lame cookie cutter characters they're using, its a horrible indication of how creative or authentic the storyline is going to be. eff this movie. eff it straight to h. where it gets effed in the b with giant 6-foot-long d's. forever.
They are the most stereotypical characters I have seen, I'd say give it a change, but even I can't decided what to think about this movie, feels like a massive joke or something, I can't accept that its really happening.
QuoteASIAN MALE - 30s. Slender, stealthy and a master with the katana. A man of few words...LEAD
So we have a ninja in the movie now? From the description of what Rodriguez has in mind, we might have a samurai or ninja in this movie. While I enjoy both ninja and samurai, I just don't see this working in this particular film. Either Rodriguez has been watching too much Kill Bill while spending a Saturday at Quentins, or he's been watching too much anime.
QuoteBLACK MALE - 30s - 40s. Quiet but full of deadly old-world wisdom. A natural-born killer not afraid to die. Authentic African...LEAD
I can see Michael Jai White playing this role.. or the guy who played Raze from Underworld. Something positive here for once.
QuoteRUSSIAN MALE - 30s - 40s. Frightening bear of a man...shoot first, ask questions later...LEAD
....So we're getting something totally predictable and stereotypical here? Wow. Bear of a Man... Why does Zangief come to mind? As much as I like Zangief, I don't want to see a Zangief type character in this film.
QuoteLATINO MALE - 30s - 40s. Hardened, brutal...Danny Trejo type...LEAD
I pretty much expected this of Rodriguez. As I said before, he usually hires Trejo for his films but since Trejo is working on Machete, Rodriguez has to find another substitute.
So far, if you ask me, Rodriguez is basically trying to recreate the formula which made the original Predator so damn good, but with the way he's going about it? I just don't think it's going to work and so far, I pretty much agree with Ridetofight and Mr. Weyland. However, I'm going to wait this out to see what developes further but I can say this... so far, I don't like what I'm seeing.
It's like Rodriguez is trying to troll Predator fans.
-Rakai'Thwei
If you'd have read a casting call for the original Predator before you saw it, you'd probably be thinking the same thing. Yet the characters worked perfectly for the film.
QuoteBLACK MALE - 30s - 40s. Quiet but full of deadly old-world wisdom. A natural-born killer not afraid to die. Authentic African...LEAD
Wouldn't be surprised if Mike got this.
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 18, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
If you'd have read a casting call for the original Predator before you saw it, you'd proabably be thinking the same thing. Yet the characters worked perfectly for the film.
That's the only reason I aint complaining anymore about the character's they always sound generic on paper, but its what the actors and director do with them that can make or break it.
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 18, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
If you'd have read a casting call for the original Predator before you saw it, you'd proabably be thinking the same thing. Yet the characters worked perfectly for the film.
Do you have the casting call sheet for the original Predator?
-Rakai'Thwei
Why have casting calls online? Are they looking for unknowns? I'm sure known actors don't go on that site.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 18, 2009, 06:35:07 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 18, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
If you'd have read a casting call for the original Predator before you saw it, you'd proabably be thinking the same thing. Yet the characters worked perfectly for the film.
Do you have the casting call sheet for the original Predator?
-Rakai'Thwei
Who cares, stop trying to "ease your worries". He's right. If you would have read it, you would have thought the same thing. If anything, it's a
good sign.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Aug 18, 2009, 06:35:12 PM
Why have casting calls online? Are they looking for unknowns? I'm sure known actors don't go on that site.
I doubt it's only online.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Aug 18, 2009, 06:35:12 PM
Why have casting calls online? Are they looking for unknowns? I'm sure known actors don't go on that site.
It sounds like they are looking for new talent, as with every damn alien and predator movie say 'we want unfamiliar faces so that the film and its events seem more realistic.'
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 18, 2009, 06:35:07 PM
Do you have the casting call sheet for the original Predator?
-Rakai'Thwei
No, but you could imagine what it might have said.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Aug 18, 2009, 06:35:12 PM
Why have casting calls online? Are they looking for unknowns? I'm sure known actors don't go on that site.
They'd be sent to various agencies as well as websites too.
Darkness, do you think it's possible to call Fox and see if anyone has been cast yet?
Casting call was only two days ago. Doubt they've had time to see the people interested.
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 18, 2009, 06:40:41 PM
Casting call was only two days ago. Doubt they've had time to see the people interested.
In any role, not just those four.
This seems bad now , but a racially diverse group is cool. Its kinda sad how the asian has a katana , its like ... perhaps the asian is an expert of martial arts and say russian sambo and uses a scottish claymore or a broadsword , but no keep the asian with his good ol' katana , I assume he'll have shurikens also. The russian and black are sterotypes but seem to fit with this movie. Clearly the latino is working in this.
I give the casting call an 7.5/10.
I must say, I was kinda expecting this... :-\
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 18, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
If you'd have read a casting call for the original Predator before you saw it, you'd probably be thinking the same thing. Yet the characters worked perfectly for the film.
i was thinking about this too, and in my opinion, theres really no comparison. billy was the only character out of the eight the story revolved around where race had anything to do with how his character actually functioned in the film. all other characters could have been of any race - they were never defined by it, or had any sort of relevence to the story anywhere. the casting call went out looking for specific races - fine. but the descriptions... i mean, what they use as THE DEFINING CHARACTERISTICS of the character... after thinking about that, i don't see the similarity. my problem is that they are not creating characters. who people are is not dependent on their race. a character could be of any race or nationality - as long as they're not built around one-dimensional stereotypes. i can't believe the black guy isn't a thug or an aspiring rapper. thats how bad this looks to me. make the russian guy a master swordsman, give me an australian bushman thats a great strategist or something interesting, not this horse crap.
It will be interesting to see how this turns out.
Quote from: ridetofight on Aug 18, 2009, 07:10:46 PM
i was thinking about this too, and in my opinion, theres really no comparison. billy was the only character out of the eight the story revolved around where race had anything to do with how his character actually functioned in the film. all other characters could have been of any race - they were never defined by it, or had any sort of relevence to the story anywhere. the casting call went out looking for specific races - fine. but the descriptions... i mean, what they use as THE DEFINING CHARACTERISTICS of the character... after thinking about that, i don't see the similarity. my problem is that they are not creating characters. who people are is not dependent on their race. a character could be of any race or nationality - as long as they're not built around one-dimensional stereotypes. i can't believe the black guy isn't a thug or an aspiring rapper. thats how bad this looks to me. make the russian guy a master swordsman, give me an australian bushman thats a great strategist or something interesting, not this horse crap.
Modern day movie making, you can't beat it, the only creative job were you don't need creativity or imagination :P
I don't know why people complain about it, the characters in the original Predator were pretty much stereotypes, but bigger than life ones.
It still worked, now they are looking for muscular badass types of characters and people still complain about it.
Quote from: jayhy17 on Aug 14, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
How bad ass would it be if those marines used pulse rifles and smart guns! Hey, both Alien and Pred franchises have crossed over many times before, they could do it again!
Not good, at all, if these ones turn out to be crap. Just look at the supposedly 'elite' squad represented in '
Doom'. If that's the sort of thing you'd get, it would massively devalue the Colonial Marines' iconic image. at least the latter got their shit together, when they realised they were in over their heads. Most portrayals of military groups, these days, have the personnel being hopelessly superficial and incompetent: '
Alien Resurrection' is an example of that.
Part of what made characters, like Apone and Blain, feel like real people, wasn't what was in the script, but the fact that the actors were combat veterans.
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Aug 18, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
They are the most stereotypical characters I have seen, I'd say give it a change, but even I can't decided what to think about this movie, feels like a massive joke or something, I can't accept that its really happening.
While there's no way to know how the dialogue might ultimately affect how they seem on screen, what I don't understand is the need to even specify ethnicity, in the first place. I'm assuming that the lead is going to be based on Machiko, from the original '
Aliens Versus Predator' comic, because the mention of being familiar with typical a Japanese weapon, strongly implies that he'll 'understand' the creatures in a fairly similar way. This could have some sort of critical hinge on the character's development. But the rest could have any racial heritage and be the same.
Heck, even Dutch was originally meant to be native American. The film worked just as well with that being disregarded.
Quote from: The PredBen on Aug 18, 2009, 07:01:39 PM
This seems bad now , but a racially diverse group is cool. Its kinda sad how the asian has a katana , its like ... perhaps the asian is an expert of martial arts and say russian sambo and uses a scottish claymore or a broadsword , but no keep the asian with his good ol' katana , I assume he'll have shurikens also. The russian and black are sterotypes but seem to fit with this movie. Clearly the latino is working in this.
I give the casting call an 7.5/10.
A guy from the middle east or India is missing. Then the group would be complete. And they have forgotten eskimos.
Wow, would you guys rather have scientists and teens again? It seems many of you always have something negative to say about every bit of news released. This casting news has me very excited...they're bringing back the badasses finally!
Who cares if they sound "stereotypical." It's a freaking Predator movie. It's supposed to be fun and filled with battle hardened soldiers going up against a threat they never imagined (with some fun cliches thrown in). These characters sound like just the guys I wanna see encounter that threat.
Good news.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 18, 2009, 07:39:20 PM
I don't know why people complain about it, the characters in the original Predator were pretty much stereotypes, but bigger than life ones.
It still worked, now they are looking for muscular badass types of characters and people still complain about it.
Ditto, was going to say exactly the same thing. Admittedly, a lot of stereotypes in movies are crap, but Predator did it perfectly.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 18, 2009, 07:49:39 PM
While there's no way to know how the dialogue might ultimately affect how they seem on screen, what I don't understand is the need to even specify ethnicity, in the first place. I'm assuming that the lead is going to be based on Machiko, from the original 'Aliens Versus Predator' comic, because the mention of being familiar with typical a Japanese weapon, strongly implies that he'll 'understand' the creatures in a fairly similar way.
I hope they keep the honor thing which was established in Predator 2, and just outright get rid of the ideas which Rodriguez had in mind such as the slavery-trade and the idea of a Predator King. While I'm not entirely against the idea of the Predator King, the idea does conflict with the whole pack mentality which was established in Predator 2. What further astounds me is that Rodriguez's Predators are meant to be depicted as the elite of the elite, meaning that all of the Predators in PREDATOR, PREDATOR 2, AvP and AvP-R are just the low level warriors, which brings numerous contradictions to what was established in the previous films and even elements in Rodriguez's own vision.
So, would Greyback be considered a low level from Rodriguez's point of view? Apparently so.
The asian with the katana would mean that the person is either a modern neo-ninja, or a practicioner of some sort of Samurai art such as Kenjutsu, Kendo, Iato, and follows their strict code of law, known as Bushido. You, Xenomorphine, have said that character could possibly be based on Machiko and develope some understanding of the Predator society, however that could only work if Rodriguez just tosses out his original ideas and does some damn research on the Predator character, which I feel he hasn't done.
Otherwise, he hasn't shown any indication of doing the research.
Sure, Rodriguez is going for the forumla which made the original Predator great, however seeing that it's going to be taking place on a Predator planet with numerous Predators, and with the bad-ass archetypes coming to said word, I fear that the creatures will just be cannon fodder.
Does anyone want the Predator to just be made cannon fodder? No, I didn't think so.
-Rakai'Thwei
Perhaps the predators are collecting top specimens from the major races of Earth for a balls-to-the-wall deathmatch in the predator colosseum...not saying that's good in any way, just trying to say that the new script could be that far removed from what we've read and instead of it being clichéd, it's more-so story related...
Just a thought...
Is it too late to cry rape? Oh well at least the Alien prequal sounds promising...
A diverse cast is always a good thing. It is what made the casts of Alien and Predator so memorable.
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 18, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
If you'd have read a casting call for the original Predator before you saw it, you'd probably be thinking the same thing. Yet the characters worked perfectly for the film.
I agree completely. If this is done right these characters will be amazing to see on screen going against Predators. I was hoping he would go in this direction to tell you the truth.
I don't see why everyone's moaning about the cheesy stereotyped characters.
Has nobody seen Predator? One of the cheesiest action films ever.
QuoteOne of the cheesiest action films ever.
Yet, one of the best action movies till this day.
It's popcorn entertainment, you watch it and you have a great time. One of the best action movies made are popcorn fun, take
Die Hard for example.
And Aliens is no exception,
Aliens is
pure cheesy popcorn fun, a rollercoaster ride, yet it is considered by many as the best in the whole series.
The just put a ton of cliches into every one of those races... this movie is going downhill into a pool of mud, and dragging the cloaked Predators with it.
I really hope this is just a stupid rumour, or by some amazing chance the characters.. are.. handled... well?
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Aug 18, 2009, 09:38:58 PM
The just put a ton of cliches into every one of those races... this movie is going downhill into a pool of mud, and dragging the cloaked Predators with it.
I really hope this is just a stupid rumour, or by some amazing chance the characters.. are.. handled... well?
This is just marketing bulls**t IMO, nowadays every movie have an Asian, a black guy and an Hispanic one , despite their practical need for the plot, so most of the viewers connect to the characters...it saddens me :-\ ...then people ask from where the stereotypes come...
Ohhh my god shut up! ::)
I might like this movie after all, but i wonder about all the jokes that are going to be made once it actually comes out.
So there was an Asian, a Latino, a Black, and a Russian on a foreign planet... ____(insert whatever the heck you feel like.)::)
Quote from: PHANTOM on Aug 18, 2009, 10:14:08 PM
Ohhh my god shut up! ::)
I don't see that as a bad thing, and a multicultural cast isn't a bad thing for me either, but in the end of the day he's right.
They want to cast people from different origins so they can appeal for a wider audience.
The Game industry does the same, take GTA for example, first it was a American guy, then a black guy and now its a Russian guy.
I know quite a few black people who like Predator 2 over Predator just because the lead is a black guy.
If you have a multi cultural cast you have better chances to appeal to those 'races' and to sell more tickets.
I don't think that's a bad thing, but he's right about it, its a marketing thing.
As long as they dont make this movie a big cheese fest i think it will be ok. They are talking about Marines in Space you know. I think that right there makes it exciting. But it does seem like they are crunching the time frame...
Where does this 'Space Marine' thing comes from in the first place?
Was it confirmed anywhere? The character description indicates that, i know, but for all we know they could be criminals, each one with a different background. I don't see why Space Marines would kill each other if it wouldn't be for the Predators, because that on the other hand was confirmed.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 18, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
QuoteOne of the cheesiest action films ever.
Yet, one of the best action movies till this day.
It's popcorn entertainment, you watch it and you have a great time. One of the best action movies made are popcorn fun, take Die Hard for example.
And Aliens is no exception, Aliens is pure cheesy popcorn fun, a rollercoaster ride, yet it is considered by many as the best in the whole series.
I never said that it wasn't a good action film. Just that people, for some reason think their childhoods are being raped because this film is using the same style of characters that the original used. It's just moaning for the sake of moaning.
...Out of those 3 films I'd say Die Hard was the least cheesy, but that's just me.
Quote
...Out of those 3 films I'd say Die Hard was the least cheesy, but that's just me.
I would agree on that, but it still is cheesy though.
Jumping from a rooftop off a skyscraper while having a water hose wrapped around you? Great entertainment and one of the most powerfull scenes in history, probably my favourite out of all action movies too, but cheesy as f**k.
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 18, 2009, 05:40:53 PM
LATINO MALE - 30s - 40s. Hardened, brutal...Danny Trejo type...LEAD
That has my name all over it...see you in the theaters.
Quote from: Master Chief on Aug 18, 2009, 10:42:05 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 18, 2009, 05:40:53 PM
LATINO MALE - 30s - 40s. Hardened, brutal...Danny Trejo type...LEAD
That has my name all over it...see you in the theaters.
RUSSIAN MALE - 30s - 40s. Frightening bear of a man...shoot first, ask questions later...See you on the set then, Chief!
And all this time I thought you were a Nazi...
:P
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 18, 2009, 10:44:36 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Aug 18, 2009, 10:42:05 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 18, 2009, 05:40:53 PM
LATINO MALE - 30s - 40s. Hardened, brutal...Danny Trejo type...LEAD
That has my name all over it...see you in the theaters.
RUSSIAN MALE - 30s - 40s. Frightening bear of a man...shoot first, ask questions later...
See you on the set then, Chief!
Definitely, JH! 8)...I just sent my info to the casting agency.
RUSSIAN MALE - 30s - 40s. Frightening bear of a man...shoot first, ask questions later...LEAD
I got the perfect man for the job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY5qJHZCz2I&feature=related
Uhh... A flame war of ignorance and racism.... Too bad.
Anyways I would try to cast the following for the stereotypical characters:
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje for the Wise And Deadly African Character.
One of the Money Guards from RockNRolla that never die for the Russian "Bear".
Can't think of anyone much BUT maybe Jet Lee for the Katana Master.
For the Latino character, Amaury Nolasco.
QuoteCan't think of anyone much BUT maybe Jet Lee for the Katana Master.
That's pretty much what I thought of too.
Plus:
Samuel Jackson as the black dude.
Danny Trejo as the latino (obviously).
Dolph Lundgreen as the russian.
It's pretty obvious when you think about it. He'll probably be looking for people that can match those actors, since I doubt he could afford them all on the budget Fox is giving him.
Quotesince I doubt he could afford them all on the budget Fox is giving him.
Predators has a budget of 40 mil, just like Sin City.
He had: Bruce Willis, Benicio del Toro, Jessica Alba, Mickey Rourke, Clive Owen, Michael Clark Duncan etc etc.
And now, he even got Robert De Niro for
Machete, a movie that goes straight to DVD. Budget was never a reason for him to not get big names.
AND Rosario Dawson, Josh Hartnett, Brittany Murphy, Elijah Wood, and almost got Leonardo DiCaprio.
Sometimes actors will work for less than their usual price if they like the script or the director. Or they could ask for a share of the profits.
I guess it's not beyond him but then why would he put out a casting call? It just sounds from the descriptions that that it is the actors he had in mind.
40 mil is cutting it tight to bring a giant Predator planet filled with creatures to life. Although with talented people like Robert and Antal anything is possible I guess.
I mean didn't District 9 cost 30 mil to make? I could have sworn that movie had an insane budget.
Quote from: PHANTOM on Aug 19, 2009, 12:32:43 AM
40 mil is cutting it tight to bring a giant Predator planet filled with creatures to life. Although with talented people like Robert and Antal anything is possible I guess.
I mean didn't District 9 cost 30 mil to make? I could have sworn that movie had an insane budget.
WOW :o . I thought it had like the triple of that.. awesome economic management :P
QuoteI thought it had like the triple of that.. awesome economic management
To be true, i would love to see a Predator movie with a giant budget, but they just don't justify it.
Also, like Rodriguez said, the more budget you have, the more the studio is taking controll over it. Money doesn't give you freedome to do the things you wanna do, because the studio has to think
even more economically, because it has to make all that money back and a lot more in order to be a success.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 19, 2009, 01:05:33 AM
QuoteI thought it had like the triple of that.. awesome economic management
To be true, i would love to see a Predator movie with a giant budget, but they just don't justify it.
Also, like Rodriguez said, the more budget you have, the more the studio is taking controll over it. Money doesn't give you freedome to do the things you wanna do, because the studio has to think even more economically, because it has to make all that money back and a lot more in order to be a success.
Yap it's true, but for example avp movies, the budget could have been a little bigger, fox had the movie paid like 3 times just in the box-office. And that extra budget could have done wonderfull things
One of the reasons to not hate the AVP films themselves, but to hate Fox for being insensitive pricks.
Quote from: Nemmesyz on Aug 19, 2009, 01:15:02 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 19, 2009, 01:05:33 AM
QuoteI thought it had like the triple of that.. awesome economic management
To be true, i would love to see a Predator movie with a giant budget, but they just don't justify it.
Also, like Rodriguez said, the more budget you have, the more the studio is taking controll over it. Money doesn't give you freedome to do the things you wanna do, because the studio has to think even more economically, because it has to make all that money back and a lot more in order to be a success.
Yap it's true, but for example avp movies, the budget could have been a little bigger, fox had the movie paid like 3 times just in the box-office. And that extra budget could have done wonderfull things
But that's not how movie studios think "Hey, it made back 3 times it's budget, so next time we can double the budget!".
They don't care for that, the more the better. Make a good amount of money while spend as less as you can.
Even if AvP would have made 200 mil just Domestically, they wouldn't spend a single buck more on the movies.
Take AvP for example, it made something around 180 mil worldwide with a budget from around 50 mil, what did FOX do?
They lowered the budget for AvP-R to 30-40 mil instead of increasing it.
Do i like it? No, but that's how movies are made and that's what movies are made for: Cash.
And its not just FOX,
every other Studio thinks the same way, otherwise, there would be no movie studio left to produce a movie.
I'm interested in producing movies($), possibly directing. Thanks for the gesture though. :)
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Aug 19, 2009, 01:38:48 AM
I'm interested in producing movies($), possibly directing. Thanks for the gesture though. :)
Ditto, which is why I'm looking into Rutgers for their film courses.
-Rakai'Thwei
*screaming at the top of my lungs* It'll Suck! It'll Suck! It'll SUCK!!!!!!!
does that tell you what I think?
I want Tom Cruise to play the asian guy, Samuel L. Jackson should play the russian guy, and Mark Wahlberg could play the black guy.
Quote from: J-Syxx on Aug 20, 2009, 12:08:31 AM
I want Tom Cruise to play the asian guy, Samuel L. Jackson should play the russian guy, and Mark Wahlberg could play the black guy.
And you could play someone who pretends he has a brain.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 20, 2009, 12:11:58 AM
Quote from: J-Syxx on Aug 20, 2009, 12:08:31 AM
I want Tom Cruise to play the asian guy, Samuel L. Jackson should play the russian guy, and Mark Wahlberg could play the black guy.
And you could play someone who pretends he has a brain.
That would take a miracle for him to pull off.
I can see him at the Golden Globe awards now:
Interviewer: "How the hell did you manage to play a guy with an IQ over 10?"
J-Syxx : "I don't know that myself, to be honest! But i heard Tom Cruise plays Shaft now."
Method acting at its finest.
Ok seriously way to many spamers in these threads.....
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Aug 20, 2009, 12:37:00 AM
Ok seriously way to many spamers in these threads.....
And to be true, that's solely because of the people who say "This will suck sooo hard!" without Predators having filmed a single frame yet.
It's not a surprise that people think this board is for idiotic jokes only.
Quote from: Darkness on Aug 18, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
If you'd have read a casting call for the original Predator before you saw it, you'd probably be thinking the same thing. Yet the characters worked perfectly for the film.
This approach also worked awesomely in AVP as well, right? ::)
I'm only saying it'll suck cuz of the past expieriance with fox. I'm surprised alot of you aren't worried that this film will be like the AvP films. and I'm sure its going to be like the AvP films. I lost all hope with fox.
and I'm goin to be there to say I told Ya so.
asian guy:
will yun lee, was in electra (which sucked but I think he fits the assassin swordsman type)
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black guy:
Djimon Hounsou, Maximus's buddie
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whos playing the lead predator if there is one.
Quote from: TITANOSAUR on Aug 20, 2009, 04:28:48 AM
I'm only saying it'll suck cuz of the past expieriance with fox. I'm surprised alot of you aren't worried that this film will be like the AvP films. and I'm sure its going to be like the AvP films. I lost all hope with fox.
and I'm goin to be there to say I told Ya so.
im no having too much faith in this film but i soooooo hope it will be good....aliens is getting its feet back under it cause of ridley scott and goddamnit the predator franchise deserves at least ONE good movie besides the original i unfortunately wasnt alive when the first 2 aliens came out or predator (im only 19) but i knew how much respect both monsters/aliens got...2 of the best, if not THE best moster's/aliens to ever be thought up...now they're just raped for quick cash its terrible
Who was the Asian guy in Punisher Warzone? What's his name?
Quote from: happypred on Aug 21, 2009, 06:39:22 PM
asian guy:
will yun lee, was in electra (which sucked but I think he fits the assassin swordsman type)
http://images.buddytv.com/artist-photos/w/will_yun_lee/elektra_movie_premiere___arrivals/sgg-056095.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/W/e/5/elektrapubc.jpg
black guy:
Djimon Hounsou, Maximus's buddie
http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/fr/2004/02/20/images/2004022001210103.jpg
Damn 'effing straight!
Quote from: TITANOSAUR on Aug 19, 2009, 05:06:57 AM
*screaming at the top of my lungs* It'll Suck! It'll Suck! It'll SUCK!!!!!!!
does that tell you what I think?
if u dont like it dont watch it i personally think that ill see it just for the rumoured arnie cameo and for the fact that it cant possibly be worse than any of the avp films no matter how hard fox tries as there will be at least one good actor in it
Djimon Hounsou is perfect for the AfricanAmerican role, he'd fit good in the Predator universe.
the actor who played Echo in lost ?? wouldn't be too bad
I smell Danny Trejo...
QuoteWait.... What?!
-Rakai'Thwei
It must be a error that they made on the page. I doubt it a prequel since IIRC that this movie is a sequel.
All this casting info seems very generic to me. I mean all of the characters are archetypes like "all blonds are stupid". I don`t like it.
This movie was doomed from the start what did you guys expect really? ::)
Quote from: ~Ezio~ on Aug 23, 2009, 11:25:01 PM
This movie was doomed from the start what did you guys expect really? ::)
I don't know what to expect, because we don't know much about it and it hasn't even started going into production yet.
Yeah but we havent seen anything from the movie yet so obviously its going to be horrible, come on man, get with the program. You gotta jump on the I hate this film before I've seen anything bandwagon like everyone else, cause its the cool thing to do. 8)
I'll wait till I see something before I doom the movie to hell.
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Aug 24, 2009, 03:51:41 AM
Yeah but we havent seen anything from the movie yet so obviously its going to be horrible, come on man, get with the program. You gotta jump on the I hate this film before I've seen anything bandwagon like everyone else, cause its the cool thing to do. 8)
I'll wait till I see something before I doom the movie to hell.
I don't have to see anything, based on the script, director and characters there looking for this is gonna fail, so far everytime I heard about a movie that sounded crap without seeing anything it really was crap when it came out eventually.
You have gotta jump on that bandwagon mate cause you know us naysayers are right, you just don't want to admit it like you did with AVP-R: Avoiding the inevitable...Were just ahead of the curve.
I'm sick of people defending this crap with their 'hope'. For instance, constantly and viciously comparing this uber-cliched callout to the original Predator. Bullshit. The original Predator was lightning in a bottle cast-wise. You're not gonna get that here, not a hope. The characters were also directed by John McTiernan.
We have a right to feel sceptical about this, especially given recent 'franchise' updates, like the horrid AVP movies. Stop attacking people with common sense. This movie is going to suck. We all know it.
I've got some new casting ideas for the producers:
- An Irishman with a shillelagh
- A Scandanavian with an axe and shield.
Double post is a no no BTW
Don't give them idea's
Quote from: ~Ezio~ on Aug 24, 2009, 07:27:07 AM
you just don't want to admit it like you did with AVP-R: Avoiding the inevitable...Were just ahead of the curve.
I will admit I was dead wrong about AVP-R before coming out, for some strange reason I thought the movie was going to be cool even though the script and setting was completely off. I must have been high, sorry about that.
But! Hold on one second there! John Davis is not the producer anymore, thats a very good positive. Shane Salerno is not involved either and now we don't have any noobie directors behind the camera this time. This is all very positive steps from the last two AVP films. Robert Rodriguez is a big name you would want near a Predator film, especially now that Antal is the director and he is no hack. He is experienced and talented, the real deal. If Antal f--ks this movie up, it will be the first movie he EVER messed up in his entire career.
So, I say the odds are with us this time around. There is nothing here to make me feel we are in for another dark, murky, retarded, Days of our lives, AVP-R type film. So far this is what I see.....
Predators taking place in space : EPIC WIN!
Space soliders vs Predators : EPIC WIN!
No goody goody/Pizzaboy/dumb blonde characters: Thank you god!
Robert Rodriguez as the Producer instead of John Davis : Awesome!
Nimród Antal as the director, Vacancy was good and Kontroll was a masterpiece : EPIC WIN!
Fox giving Rodriguez complete artistic control : Wow, thats a first from Fox, Awesome!
It's all green on my screen dude. I don't know if it will be as good as Predator or Aliens but I am sure it will bitch slap everything that the last two AVP films were.
Quote from: PHANTOM on Aug 24, 2009, 11:26:42 PM
Robert Rodriguez is a big name you would want near a Predator film, especially now that Antal is the director and he is no hack. He is experienced and talented, the real deal. If Antal f--ks this movie up, it will be the first movie he EVER messed up in his entire career.
So, I say the odds are with us this time around. There is nothing here to make me feel we are in for another dark, murky, retarded, Days of our lives, AVP-R type film. So far this is what I see.....
Predators taking place in space : EPIC WIN!
Space soliders vs Predators : EPIC WIN!
Robert Rodriguez as the Producer instead of John Davis : Awesome!
Fox giving Rodriguez complete artistic control : Wow, thats a first from Fox, Awesome!
Rodriguez is
NOT a name I want to associate with a Predator film at all. Have you even so much as read his script from 1994? If you haven't, I strongly suggest you read it before getting your hopes up because he has stated in numerous interviews that he is definately using that treatment. I strongly believe that Rodriguez HASN'T done his homework about the Predator character, or even so much as listened to the fans, hell, I got a return to sender from one of my letters to him-- and it was never even opened. And since Rodriguez is using his treatment from 1994, he doesn't have to do his research on the Predator character and in my book
THATS A BAD THING, mm'kay?
Sure, Rodriguez has done some notable works such as the Faculty and Planet Terror, but if you ask me, a guy who gets his ideas from his kids is not cut for a Predator movie. At all. He thinks most of his ideas are good, and chances are he may keep the ideas from that horrid 1994 script. And the casting call just is.. well.. almost laughable. However, I do want to see who has been casted before I make any real judgement. I want to be proven wrong though about Rodriguez's ideas and see them NOT being used in this film, but I'm very skeptical about it.
I'm not going to make any notes on Antal seeing as I haven't seen his works though. But hopefully, he'll know what should be kept in and what should be kept out. If not, oooooh boy, the fans are gonna chew him and Rodriguez up.
And Rodriguez being a more better choice than John Davis? Thats like saying Jean Pierre is better than Scott! John Davis has been from the start of Predator. Rodriguez was still a school boy back in 87! Davis GAVE us Predator... Without Davis, we wouldn't have Predator! Davis wanted to do AvP, and while I enjoyed the films, I do acknowledge that fans hated the movies because the studio kept on interfering and made bad choices. Don't blame Davis, blame Fox.
Predators taking place in space : EPIC WIN!
Space soliders vs Predators : EPIC WIN!
Robert Rodriguez as the Producer instead of John Davis : FAIL
Fox giving Rodriguez complete artistic control : BAD!! Rodriguez DOESN'T KNOW SQUAT about the Predator.
-Rakai'Thwei
I've read it and I absolutely love it! I can't wait to see who they cast for the film. Go Rodriguez!
Quote from: Master Chief on Aug 25, 2009, 01:08:22 AM
I've read it and I absolutely love it! I can't wait to see who they cast for the film. Go Rodriguez!
....You have GOT to be kidding.. Please TELL ME you are kidding.
-Rakai'Thwei
Heck no! It's hard for me to fathom how one wouldn't like it. Read it again, man.
Quote from: Master Chief on Aug 25, 2009, 01:16:28 AM
Heck no! It's hard for me to fathom how one wouldn't like it. Read it again, man.
What did you like about it? And what was your favorite part of it?
Quote from: Master Chief on Aug 25, 2009, 01:16:28 AM
Heck no! It's hard for me to fathom how one wouldn't like it. Read it again, man.
.....I want to forget page 109 and the peeing Predators...
Predators DON'T do that, and Predators DON'T take slaves and trade their technology with humanity.
I don't want to remember what I have read from that horrid script.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: Master Chief on Aug 25, 2009, 01:08:22 AM
I've read it and I absolutely love it! I can't wait to see who they cast for the film. Go Rodriguez!
Bahaha! Now you've done it for the haters.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Aug 25, 2009, 01:18:20 AM
What did you like about it? And what was your favorite part of it?
I liked how 'far out there' the script is. That's what I call an imagination. Albeit, there were few things that prompted the :-\ face, but whateva'.
Quote from: PHANTOM on Aug 25, 2009, 01:26:28 AM
Quote from: Master Chief on Aug 25, 2009, 01:08:22 AM
I've read it and I absolutely love it! I can't wait to see who they cast for the film. Go Rodriguez!
Bahaha! Now you've done it for the haters.
Fire when ready! :D
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 25, 2009, 01:09:34 AM
Quote from: Master Chief on Aug 25, 2009, 01:08:22 AM
I've read it and I absolutely love it! I can't wait to see who they cast for the film. Go Rodriguez!
....You have GOT to be kidding.. Please TELL ME you are kidding.
-Rakai'Thwei
Why can't he like it. Everyone has a different opinion. I liked parts of it too.
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Aug 25, 2009, 05:42:28 AM
Why can't he like it. Everyone has a different opinion. I liked parts of it too.
I liked the Predator planet setting, the space soliders and thats about it. As long as they keep the film based on the soldiers and Predators and keeping it realistic/action packed it will be ass kicking.
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Aug 25, 2009, 05:42:28 AM
Why can't he like it. Everyone has a different opinion. I liked parts of it too.
I'm not saying he can't like it. If he wants to like it, he can and I'm not condemning him for it. Otherwise, we'd be living in a dictatorship or communist rule, and since I'm not for that, he's allowed to like what he wants and I can respect that-- just like how I like the AvP films and others don't.
At least he offered an explaination as to why he liked it. He said it was out there, not really the norm for a Predator movie, and well, I'll take what I can get. I personally don't like Rodriguez's ideas because in my opinion, it shows that he didn't either agree with what was established about the Predator culture in Predator 2 and perhaps AvP if you're willing to count those, or he never really did his research at all on the character.
I'm willing to bet the latter though as it seems more likely.
-Rakai'Thwei
I hate being the one to tell you guys "I told you so" in the end because when I sum everything up from my point of view...it will be a disaster.
@ `Ezio`: I thought I was gonna say "I told Ya So"? but if you want to you can. :D
in a way I hope me and other who agree the film will be good. BUT... we all know it'll suck Alien Drool! (yep, I made up "it'll suck Alien Drool" ya'll like it?) I think it'll suck because of the things I heard so far. to me it sounds like AvP-R is returning from the grave reincarnating itself as the new Predator movie.
personaly my idea for a new Predator move is the Predator coming to earth, and hunting soldiers and the teliban in Iraq. but I'm sure that idea will be shot down by fandom-idea Hatter snipers.
Quote from: ~Ezio~ on Aug 25, 2009, 02:30:39 PM
I hate being the one to tell you guys "I told you so" in the end because when I sum everything up from my point of view...it will be a disaster.
Shut up.
QuoteI hate being the one to tell you guys "I told you so" in the end because when I sum everything up from my point of view...it will be a disaster.
There is only one little problem: What might be bad
to you might not be bad
to me or any other person.
So, you can say "I told you so" all day long, i might as well end up loving the movie even if you think its bad.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 25, 2009, 05:02:48 PM
QuoteI hate being the one to tell you guys "I told you so" in the end because when I sum everything up from my point of view...it will be a disaster.
There is only one little problem: What might be bad to you might not be bad to me or any other person.
So, you can say "I told you so" all day long, i might as well end up loving the movie even if you think its bad.
I am just reminding everyone who thinks this is gonna be good to not get your hopes, so that in the end you don't end up as a douchebag after watching it and finding yourself absolutely hating it, so please for future references don't start ripping the movie and all who worked on it apart after you were so positive that it will be an "awesome" movie, that in the end... it makes you cringe just at the thought "Predators". And if some of you
do start moaning about it when you find it an absolute disaster. And then... I'll get to say I told you so.
What happens if you actually like it, what then, are you going to proclaim yourself as being a D-bag for hating so much?
Quote from: Master Chief on Aug 25, 2009, 06:01:36 PM
What happens if you actually like it, what then, are you going to proclaim yourself as being a D-bag for hating so much?
Yes, I'm typing it her and now..., if I am going to like it I shall make a topic for myself on how I am a D-bag.
Well, I wanted to post this little interesting blurb that actress, Brea Grant ("Daphne Middlebrook" in Heroes and will soon be in Rob Zombie's Halloween 2) loves Predator and wants to be in PREDATORS.
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/exclusive-brea-grant-talks-halloween-2-adswn.php (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/exclusive-brea-grant-talks-halloween-2-adswn.php)
Quote:
It is definitely overwhelming. Speaking of another classic franchise, Robert Rodriguez, another Austinite, is setting up Predators. You mentioned before that you loved Predator. Are you going to go after that?
Yeah, I didn't even know he was doing that.
Yep, apparently he is going to produce it and have it set on the Predator's homeworld.
That's really cool. I saw that he is doing Machete and I thought that's really cool. I really like him as a director but I don't really know him. So I can't call him up and say, 'Please let me be in Predators!' I auditioned for Shorts but I didn't get it back before I even got Heroes.
QuoteI am just reminding everyone who thinks this is gonna be good to not get your hopes
And thats already a stupid thing to say, why is it not allowed to get your hopes up but at the same time bash the shit out of the movie, even though its in Pre-Production now and there hasnt even been shot a single frame yet?
There is a new Predator movie coming out after 20 years, i'm excited about it, there is a creative team behind it that i have trust in that they can pull off a good movie, so what?
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 25, 2009, 07:12:09 PM
QuoteI am just reminding everyone who thinks this is gonna be good to not get your hopes
And thats already a stupid thing to say, why is it not allowed to get your hopes up but at the same time bash the shit out of the movie, even though its in Pre-Production now and there hasnt even been shot a single frame yet?
There is a new Predator movie coming out after 20 years, i'm excited about it, there is a creative team behind it that i have trust in that they can pull off a good movie, so what?
So nothing, just don't make the same mistake like the AVP movies, allot people said they were gonna be good after they saw some pictures and trailers and in the end, the movies disappointed and made allot of people mad. And now with Predators I really
do hope I am being wrong now, but the way I see things so far it's not looking good...at least to me.
Quotejust don't make the same mistake like the AVP movies
But this is not AvP, this is
Predator, the pest is gone now.
Quoteallot people said they were gonna be good after they saw some pictures and trailers and in the end, the movies disappointed and made allot of people mad.
Not me, maybe with the first one, yes, with AvP-R, i knew exactly what i was going to end up with, a 90 minute action romp instead of the 21/2 hour action epic that some were expecting, and therefore, i wasn't disappointed when i saw it, more like "I enjoyed it for what it was".
Quotebut the way I see things so far it's not looking good
For f**ks sake, what have we
seen so far? Nothing, a 15 year old fan script and a character sheet, that already contradicts with the idea that Robert is using his old draft for it.
So why say "This will suck!" at this point in time? Ohh, because of the AvP's? So everything Alien/Predator related
has to suck now? :-\
If you have so little faith in this franchise then why join this site in the first place?
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 25, 2009, 01:21:32 AM
Quote from: Master Chief on Aug 25, 2009, 01:16:28 AM
Heck no! It's hard for me to fathom how one wouldn't like it. Read it again, man.
.....I want to forget page 109 and the peeing Predators...
Predators DON'T do that, and Predators DON'T take slaves and trade their technology with humanity.
-Rakai'Thwei
The problem with that is: you DON'T know what Predators do. All the movies, comics, and books don't give a complete picture of Predator life. You can't base a culture on just one facet. They can't all hunt all the time. They have to do other stuff. This slave thing could be the equivalent of chicken fights or something. And if peeing makes it into the movie, then guess what? It's canon! Then every following predator movie will have a pred-pee scene in it and a scene where they are called "one ugly motherf*cker!"
QuoteAnd if peeing makes it into the movie, then guess what? It's canon!
You mean like the newborn is canon, and one Predator killing 50 aliens with ease is canon, or that a pizza delivery guy killed an alien is canon? Or that the alien was on earth twice and still got f**ked over, which basically makes the whole "If the alien makes it to earth were f**ked!" thread in the alien movies a ridiculous thing to say is canon?
If so, then yeah, the peeing will be canon. :)
Yes to all except for the pizza boy killing the alien, that couldn't have happened. 8)
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 25, 2009, 07:47:34 PM
Quotejust don't make the same mistake like the AVP movies
But this is not AvP, this is Predator, the pest is gone now.
Quoteallot people said they were gonna be good after they saw some pictures and trailers and in the end, the movies disappointed and made allot of people mad.
Not me, maybe with the first one, yes, with AvP-R, i knew exactly what i was going to end up with, a 90 minute action romp instead of the 21/2 hour action epic that some were expecting, and therefore, i wasn't disappointed when i saw it, more like "I enjoyed it for what it was".
Quotebut the way I see things so far it's not looking good
For f**ks sake, what have we seen so far? Nothing, a 15 year old fan script and a character sheet, that already contradicts with the idea that Robert is using his old draft for it.
So why say "This will suck!" at this point in time? Ohh, because of the AvP's? So everything Alien/Predator related has to suck now? :-\
If you have so little faith in this franchise then why join this site in the first place?
I do have little faith...movie wise, gaming wise I see hope. However I know that this movie could maybe resurrect the Predator franchise and I would be very happy after that and hope to God that they continue to make more good if not excellent sequels. If this and the new Alien movie turn out bad then all hope is lost I think cause everyone in Hollywood is gonna see the AVP/P/A as some bastardchild which is sad.
But to clarify myself again, I do hope this movie is gonna rock, and I know I haven't seen anything so for now let me just say; I'm reserving judgement.
QuoteI'm reserving judgement.
Aha, that sounds very different my friend.
Because saying "I reserve judgement" and saying "this will suck and i told you so!" are two totally different things at this point in time.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 25, 2009, 08:07:27 PM
QuoteAnd if peeing makes it into the movie, then guess what? It's canon!
You mean like the newborn is canon, and one Predator killing 50 aliens with ease is canon, or that a pizza delivery guy killed an alien is canon? Or that the alien was on earth twice and still got f**ked over, which basically makes the whole "If the alien makes it to earth were f**ked!" thread in the alien movies a ridiculous thing to say is canon?
If so, then yeah, the peeing will be canon. :)
The way I see it is: each one is separate. Alien has its own canon (so yeah, the Newborn is canon in my view), Predator has its own and AvP has its own. But, in the end, canon means f*ck-all. You like what you like and hate what you hate. You can ignore it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 25, 2009, 08:07:27 PM
You mean like the newborn is canon, and one Predator killing 50 aliens with ease is canon, or that a pizza delivery guy killed an alien is canon? Or that the alien was on earth twice and still got f**ked over, which basically makes the whole "If the alien makes it to earth were f**ked!" thread in the alien movies a ridiculous thing to say is canon?
If so, then yeah, the peeing will be canon. :)
You know, sometimes I can't tell if you're being sarcastic and snarky or not.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 25, 2009, 10:04:24 PM
QuoteI'm reserving judgement.
Aha, that sounds very different my friend.
Because saying "I reserve judgement" and saying "this will suck and i told you so!" are two totally different things at this point in time.
I still feel this movie will not be good cause of the script and all, but I will be more open minded for now till some more info and pictures/trailer comes out.
I'm sticking to my guns as well, untill I see pictures or a trailor, I'll only change my tune only if i see some good things.
So I've got a stupid question. Do we know how close the new movie is to the script thats online? Cause I wanna read it, if it dosen't give way too much. Also could someone give me the link to the script?
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 14, 2009, 08:20:37 PM
Just have The Expendables fight The Predators and everyone will be happy no matter what. I know I would.
Along with a dutch demo, i gonna go and co-sign this even if it turn out meh.