Jim and John Thomas suing Disney to reclaim Predator rights

Started by Kailem, Apr 16, 2021, 12:46:54 AM

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PAS Spinelli

Some people from Illfonic Forums are saying alot of dumb shit while sharing info on Reddit


Kradan


Immortan Jonesy

And people ask me why I'm a misanthrope sometimes.  :laugh:

SuperiorIronman

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 28, 2021, 04:55:22 PM
Some people from Illfonic Forums are saying alot of dumb shit while sharing info on Reddit
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I understand that fans are made because this just derailed everybody all at once but this is merely a matter of the Thomas brothers getting the franchise on or shortly after May 27th or something like 2023.They're getting the rights no matter what and no matter how Skulls will or would've turned out Fox should've lost the franchise long ago since if it's going to give far more a shit about Alien, it (Predator) should at the very least be in the hands of its creators than a company who considers it an afterthought. And frankly this should be a good thing since it will be in theory easier to get shit out since the Thomas brothers aren't likely to have the same mandates or be as incompetent as Fox.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 28, 2021, 04:55:22 PM
Some people from Illfonic Forums are saying alot of dumb shit while sharing info on Reddit
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Yeah, a lot of that just comes from anger at the moment, I think. :/

Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Apr 28, 2021, 05:12:50 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 28, 2021, 04:55:22 PM
Some people from Illfonic Forums are saying alot of dumb shit while sharing info on Reddit
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I understand that fans are made because this just derailed everybody all at once but this is merely a matter of the Thomas brothers getting the franchise on or shortly after May 27th or something like 2023.They're getting the rights no matter what and no matter how Skulls will or would've turned out Fox should've lost the franchise long ago since if it's going to give far more a shit about Alien, it (Predator) should at the very least be in the hands of its creators than a company who considers it an afterthought. And frankly this should be a good thing since it will be in theory easier to get shit out since the Thomas brothers aren't likely to have the same mandates or be as incompetent as Fox.

^ This might be a bit harsh here imo. I think it's fair to say with the Netflix AvP Animated Show, The Predator and Skulls (apparently in development prior to the acquisition), at least in the last five to six years, Fox was not treating Predator as an afterthought. And hiring Dan Trachtenberg and Shane Black, these are not slouch directors at the time either. Fast-forward to Disney's acquisition, and their sister companies greenlit Skulls and the first Predator ongoing comic series in the history of the franchise.

Regarding to the Thomas Brothers handling the franchise better, who knows. I've seen enough of Ridley's prequels, Lucas' prequels and Cameron's return to Terminator to know there is no guarantee of a return to a high level of quality or competence.

TC

TC

#380
John August and Craig Mazin (two professional Hollywood screenwriters) have some commentary about the Predator case in their audio podcast:

https://scriptnotes.libsyn.com/498-small-plates

Skip ahead to 00:37:00

or if you are at all interested in screenwriting, listen to the whole darn thing! In fact, subscribe! (This is the only podcast that I eagerly anticipate every week.)

Or if you want all the gory legal details about the relevant US copyright law:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/203

TC

Proteus

Proteus

#381
Disney is about to go through some stuff that isn't just with Predator.

https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/financial-reporting/article/86212-writers-orgs-form-disneymustpay-joint-task-force.html


I think this is mostly just the writers having their right to be paid. And perhaps that's all the Thomas Brothers are seeking in the end. "Look, you can keep the rights but it's going to COST you." And why not go that route? Would be easier than having to go around and negotiate the rights again somewhere else. That could take a few years.

SiL

That's literally the point of the provision - to renegotiate the rights after the market value is proven.

For a book, it can be a tool for a writer to get their work away from a publisher they don't like and go elsewhere. In the case of a movie though, the only rights it gives them is that of the script they wrote - nothing else.

If they took the rights elsewhere, it would just be then taking their script to a new studio to get it adapted anew. If that studio wanted all the other parts, they'd still need to get them off Disney.

Nightmare Asylum

Quote from: Anti-Woke on Apr 28, 2021, 01:06:55 PM
I guess you didn't learn anything from Terminator: Dark Turd.  Having a lead female in a movie is perfectly okay, look at the alien movies, but when you make it about gender norms and all that, it's a movie headed for the toilet. Watchmen series was woke as hell and was dogshit. Terminator: Dark Fate was woke as hell, it bombed. Just make a normal ass predator movie that's scary and not about gender norms. Just f**king fight the predator and shut the f**k up.

Hahaha holy shit. :D

SM

Quote from: Stitch on Apr 28, 2021, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: Anti-Woke on Apr 27, 2021, 06:56:18 PM
I really hope Dan Trachtenberg's movie gets canned. It looks like it has the works of work propaganda already. Can we please just have a normal movie that isn't about gender norms and all that bullshit. I want a return to the likes of the original movie or at least predator 2. Please, no SJW crap.
Quote from: Anti-Woke on Apr 27, 2021, 07:05:43 PM
Please put an injunction on it. I can already tell Disney is about to make a woke ass predator. Give it back to the original owners and let them revive it.

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Give them points for putting their dipshitted bigotry right on front street.

[cancerblack]

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 28, 2021, 05:45:49 PM
the Netflix AvP Animated Show

Jeez, thanks for reminding me.

BigDaddyJohn

I must admit I almost cried laughing (for real) when reading dark turd.


Yautja888

Quote from: Kradan on Apr 25, 2021, 07:02:25 PM
Quote from: Yautja888 on Apr 25, 2021, 06:48:37 PM
Thomas brothers WW2 battle of the Bulge pitch

What is it and why I've never heard about it before ? I'd love Predator movie set in WWI/II

They mentioned it in 2011 If I remember correctly.
They didn't tell much about it, just Americans and Germans soldiers having an uneasy
alliance against a predator in order to survive during the Battle of the Bulge, a german
counteroffensive in 44.

BigDaddyJohn

Heard about it a while back and that is one great f**king idea !

SuperiorIronman

I absolutely love the idea of a Predator on a battlefield. Just weaving through gunfire, doing parkour over and around tanks, in and out of sight as he runs off with kills. Though I think we are a bit overdo on a film set in the past like the current production, I'd love to see a war time Predator film.

Personally speaking I'd be all in for something kind of like the opening to Onimusha:Warlords where we see a massive clash with a Predator just in the middle taking on everyone. I think they even made something like 2 or 3 samurai Predators anyways so it wouldn't be unwarranted.

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