Sil given the covid-19 situation and even talk of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics being cancelled despite being pushed back to August of 2021
we're probably crying over spilt milk.
But at least acknowledge my points.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2020, 09:49:21 PMThey're (marvel movies) also PG and specifically designed to appeal to as many people as possible. Last time they did that to Aliens it didn't go well.
That's films in general, every studio is a box office counter but again audience feedback is just as important. You may not like the fact Prometheus got negative audience feedback on YouTube and this is somehow a conspiracy to slate a suppoesly "good" movies in your books.
Audience feedback is why ALIEN Covenant 2 (Prometheus 3) got cancelled as per a studio statement. Ridley Scott failed to pick up people weren't happy with the Space Jockey being protrayed as a pale, bald bodybuilder in a suit or a mysterious creature being the pet project of a disillusioned android on an "ancient Rome in space".
That's not the audiences or critics fault it was Ridley Scott's doing. People initially jumped on Prometheus with hype and excitement as "the Director of ALIEN had returned". Even though retrospectively he had people who were willing to say no and even veto Scott back in 1978. Whereas in 2011 he was surrounded by "yes men".
Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2020, 09:49:21 PMI'm also talking about the fact people, even fans, would seem to rather shit on these movies than enjoy them.
Nothing wrong with "shitting on a movie" if your argument is strong. People say ALIEN and ALIENS are classics which I'll go with.
People say the AVP movies (guilty pleasures of mine) are trash and their reasoning is justified. Won't change my enjoyment but I acknowledge the rules of evaluating art. "Taste" and "beauty" are two different things.
When I watch a negative review of Alien Resurrection or ALIEN 3, 9 times out of 10 the criticism is justified.
Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2020, 09:49:21 PMThese films won't make a billion dollars because the audience for them just isn't that large. Sci fi horror does not attract those crowds.
They said the same thing about Titanic, Avatar and, again, The Fast and the Furious movies. Granted they all got the 12a- PG-13 certificate which you'll all know is the most profitable film rating than PG or R rating (UK 15 age rating).
That said both Joker (2019) crossed the billion dollar mark for a violent arthouse movie, only somewhat tentatively tied to batman. Although there was some inference Joaquin Phoenix wasn't even the Joker. So we can't say taking risks was the sole cause of ALIEN sequel box office failure or the law of diminishing returns.