Posted by OpenMaw
- Feb 08, 2013, 02:45:38 AMQuote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 08, 2013, 01:55:45 AM
The AVP 1 Aliens had their flaws, too. People just look back on the game with fond memories, that's all. Not sure if the sub-forums here can be trawled back for criticisms of it, but there were more than a few at the time.
Nothing major. Not as far as the AI versions are concerned anyway. They occasionally get stuck on things.
I'm not looking back, ether. I just went and played through the first three levels of the Marine campaign, followed by some skirmish. My memory is five minutes old.
There were some things that were off. No hatching eggs. No chest bursters. They were a bit too noise. Screeching every five seconds and such... But honestly, not much else. They did what they were supposed to. Get you on your toes.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Feb 08, 2013, 01:55:45 AM
They were nicely fast, but an argument could be made that they were almost too fast - and when you play as them, they feel like they're sliding on butter, but few, if any, games get the first-person 'running bounce' thing right, much less creature-playing ones.
AvP2 improved some of the elements of the Alien player's control. I'd ditch the incredibly silly superman-alien pounce, but the speed was more evened (maybe a smidge faster.)
I feel like an idiot right now though. I went in there to record some commentary and put together a video talking about specifically what Colonial Marines should have taken away from the legacy of Aliens games out there already, using examples from AVP 99 specifically... and then after I got out of the game to check the footage, I didn't have my mic detected by Fraps, so it only got the game sound. DOH!
Posted by First Blood
- Feb 08, 2013, 02:21:30 AM"Dicey? I need grown up words."
Good lord that dialogue made me laugh out loud. And that's not a compliment.
Good lord that dialogue made me laugh out loud. And that's not a compliment.
Posted by ShadowPred
- Feb 08, 2013, 02:20:49 AMUgh, this game.
Posted by Prime113
- Feb 08, 2013, 01:58:11 AMQuote from: RagingDragon on Feb 08, 2013, 01:56:09 AM
I'm just holding out for that Ultimate Badass mode. I'm seriously not going to play on anything else, ever. I'm also never even touching the melee button.
If you touch that damned melee button, you're a bitch.
Lol but options man, how hard is it just to make an acid damage option? Or even a few options, like none, light, or realistic? Does anyone else think the attachments look wildly out of place, like that shotgun and red dot sight? Come on, they can't even make them OD green?
But, but, but...I don't wanna die.
Yeah, the attachments are wack. Save for the iron sights, of course.
Posted by RagingDragon
- Feb 08, 2013, 01:56:09 AMI'm just holding out for that Ultimate Badass mode. I'm seriously not going to play on anything else, ever. I'm also never even touching the melee button.
If you touch that damned melee button, you're a bitch.
Lol but options man, how hard is it just to make an acid damage option? Or even a few options, like none, light, or realistic? Does anyone else think the attachments look wildly out of place, like that shotgun and red dot sight? Come on, they can't even make them OD green?
If you touch that damned melee button, you're a bitch.
Lol but options man, how hard is it just to make an acid damage option? Or even a few options, like none, light, or realistic? Does anyone else think the attachments look wildly out of place, like that shotgun and red dot sight? Come on, they can't even make them OD green?
Posted by Xenomorphine
- Feb 08, 2013, 01:55:45 AMThe AVP 1 Aliens had their flaws, too. People just look back on the game with fond memories, that's all. Not sure if the sub-forums here can be trawled back for criticisms of it, but there were more than a few at the time.
They were nicely fast, but an argument could be made that they were almost too fast - and when you play as them, they feel like they're sliding on butter, but few, if any, games get the first-person 'running bounce' thing right, much less creature-playing ones.
Allegedly, the damage will be greatly increased in 'Badass Mode' (that they even named it that is depressing). No news on whether it'll do a thing for NPCs or the environment, though. Just to your character.
And it incapacitated Hicks. Hicks' example is what they should be basing damage off of, seeing as they're making such a big deal over the alleged canonical nature of it.
They were nicely fast, but an argument could be made that they were almost too fast - and when you play as them, they feel like they're sliding on butter, but few, if any, games get the first-person 'running bounce' thing right, much less creature-playing ones.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 01:47:35 AM
I'm more pissed that huge amounts of acid blood doesn't do shit to your character. In the freaking live stream, they used the Smart Gun on them, the xenos exploded with acid raining down everywhere...and they were standing right next to the damn Xenos...the life bar wasn't affected a single bit, it's sad.
Allegedly, the damage will be greatly increased in 'Badass Mode' (that they even named it that is depressing). No news on whether it'll do a thing for NPCs or the environment, though. Just to your character.
Quote from: SM on Feb 08, 2013, 01:50:54 AM
That said - there's an awful lot flying around and look what happened to Drake.
And it incapacitated Hicks. Hicks' example is what they should be basing damage off of, seeing as they're making such a big deal over the alleged canonical nature of it.
Posted by ShadowPred
- Feb 08, 2013, 01:52:22 AMQuote from: SM on Feb 08, 2013, 01:50:54 AM
That said - there's an awful lot flying around and look what happened to Drake.
This is what gets me. We've seen how the acid can be terrible, yet the game has acid going all over the damn place and it hardly does anything.
Posted by SM
- Feb 08, 2013, 01:50:54 AMAcid isn't as corrosive on skin as it it on metal.
That said - there's an awful lot flying around and look what happened to Drake.
That said - there's an awful lot flying around and look what happened to Drake.
Posted by Prime113
- Feb 08, 2013, 01:48:18 AMQuote from: SM on Feb 08, 2013, 01:42:55 AMQuoteBut, all you said, just kinda proves my point. If the acid were as powerful as it was in the movie, one drop on the skin and you're f**ked. Game over.
Vriess got two drops and wasn't f**ked.
Hudson got slightly more and wasn't f**ked either.
OK, maybe some slight exaggeration on my part, as Hudson does have a couple drops on his bare arm, and it doesn't come off.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 01:47:35 AM
I'm more pissed that huge amounts of acid blood doesn't do shit to your character. In the freaking live stream, they used the Smart Gun on them, the xenos exploded with acid raining down everywhere...and they were standing right next to the damn Xenos...the life bar wasn't affected a single bit, it's sad.
I canz agree with that.
Posted by ShadowPred
- Feb 08, 2013, 01:47:35 AMI'm more pissed that huge amounts of acid blood doesn't do shit to your character. In the freaking live stream, they used the Smart Gun on them, the xenos exploded with acid raining down everywhere...and they were standing right next to the damn Xenos...the life bar wasn't affected a single bit, it's sad.
Posted by SM
- Feb 08, 2013, 01:42:55 AMQuoteBut, all you said, just kinda proves my point. If the acid were as powerful as it was in the movie, one drop on the skin and you're f**ked. Game over.
Vriess got two drops and wasn't f**ked.
Hudson got slightly more and wasn't f**ked either.
Posted by Prime113
- Feb 08, 2013, 01:38:56 AMQuote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 01:36:26 AMQuote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 12:45:01 AM
Hey, I'm only 3 years younger than you, bruh. And, I know, I didn't say it pissed me off, I just simply stated that I had to play it a few times.
Ahh. I haven't watched that much of the campaign. Hopefully that was just coincidence.
While I can dig on some exploration, there are certain games to do it in. Assassins Creed, Crysis(Especially 1), Borderlands, stuff like that. Very much of the modern day combat IS room to room.
To me, the Xeno isn't scary anymore. I know you're probably talking more about atmosphere and tension building, which I can dig on, its got its place in gaming.
IF OpenMaw IS NOT OLD ENOUGH 4 YOU...WELL IM 31 AND I TELL YOU AVP'99 XENOS ARE THE REAL DEAL.
THEY EVEN ATTACK YOU WHILE ON FIRE!!! OH MY!
That's what's up.
Posted by SPECIAL FORCES
- Feb 08, 2013, 01:36:26 AMQuote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 12:45:01 AM
Hey, I'm only 3 years younger than you, bruh. And, I know, I didn't say it pissed me off, I just simply stated that I had to play it a few times.
Ahh. I haven't watched that much of the campaign. Hopefully that was just coincidence.
While I can dig on some exploration, there are certain games to do it in. Assassins Creed, Crysis(Especially 1), Borderlands, stuff like that. Very much of the modern day combat IS room to room.
To me, the Xeno isn't scary anymore. I know you're probably talking more about atmosphere and tension building, which I can dig on, its got its place in gaming.
IF OpenMaw IS NOT OLD ENOUGH 4 YOU...WELL IM 31 AND I TELL YOU AVP'99 XENOS ARE THE REAL DEAL.
THEY EVEN ATTACK YOU WHILE ON FIRE!!! OH MY!
Posted by The Runner
- Feb 08, 2013, 01:31:43 AMAt the end of the day, to GBX, it's just "Dumb Bugz!"
Posted by Xenomorphine
- Feb 08, 2013, 12:57:20 AMQuote from: RagingDragon on Feb 07, 2013, 06:03:16 PM
... It's all f**king GORMANS FAULT for not using 3-round burst!
No it isn't. One round, three, a hundred... They weren't doing a thing at the range he was firing it. Vasquez had to use her gun at point-blank range at exactly the same point. A point which was probably a good deal weaker than the rest of the body, because a head is typically used for sensory organs. Very likely stunned it in the process for the same reason, too (you try having a handgun go off, right next to your head - can pretty much deafen you).
Pulse rifles fire rounds which are designed to get through personal armour well in advance of what we have today. Makes sense they'd stand a chance. The handguns being fired are different.
Quote from: SM on Feb 07, 2013, 10:08:02 PM
Three marines with superior leverage were unable to close a sliding door against one Alien without shooting its head off.
This... So much this.
Unarmed combat against an Alien would be like going up against a Terminator. You'd be rag-dolled into tiny broken bones if it wanted to. Cross a hydraulic vice with a chainsaw and you've got a close approximation to what a delightful day out that would be.
