In your opinion do you think Alien 3 killed the franchise?

Started by Aliens1986fanboy, Aug 29, 2019, 09:56:05 AM

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In your opinion do you think Alien 3 killed the franchise? (Read 26,373 times)

SM

Caste heads tried to ban director commentary because it instantly torpedoed their argument.

Doctor Ash

Doctor Ash

#76
I would have taken the point of neither caste nor cowl in this discussion, because even the chestburster and the eggs looked the different in both movies.

So i would have gone for a different subspecies...

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Kimarhi

Quote from: SM on Sep 05, 2019, 09:32:26 AM
Caste heads tried to ban director commentary because it instantly torpedoed their argument.

Or because Ridley would change his opinion on subjects every five years.  Which of those opinions is valid?  The original discussed when making the movie or the latest?

SM

That wasn't a thing back then.

Local Trouble

Did Ridley ever opine about the cowl?  I thought that was Cameron.  ???

Kimarhi

Kimarhi

#80
I don't think Ridley cared about the cowl but he has had plenty of 180s in his career concerning the franchise.

FenGiddel

It was the lice. That's what killed A3...

Samhain13

Quote from: Kimarhi on Sep 05, 2019, 10:56:00 PM
I don't think Ripley cared about the cowl but he has had plenty of 180s in his career concerning the franchise.

And I doubt he is done doing that.

Huggs

Quote from: Samhain13 on Sep 06, 2019, 02:54:42 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Sep 05, 2019, 10:56:00 PM
I don't think Ripley cared about the cowl but he has had plenty of 180s in his career concerning the franchise.

And I doubt he is done doing that.

"The beast is f***ing cooked. I mean it's absolutely still viable, and people love it. It's just cooked so hard that I believe it's great. That poor old useless thing. It's just done. How can you make a movie about that anymore? You need something new, and that's what we're doing. We wanted to take things in a different direction. So we're doing an Alien movie. We've just got the script finished, and I think people are really going to like it".

The Old One

The Old One

#84
Genuinely laughing, you completely nailed it.

Kimo

I'm not a fan of A3 but I respect it as a sequel to Aliens. For me A3 never killed off the Alien franchise but defo put a spanner in the works for Ripley's story especially if you watched A3 back in the day. However one of the reasons I love Alien Isolation is cos Ripley if I remember correctly is MIA and Amanda don't know her fate only that Ripley escape the Nostromo. Would love to see Alien Isolation 2 were Amanda eventually discovers her mother's fate on Fury. Would make it even more tragic. 

SM

Amanda died two years before her mother.

Kimo

Quote from: SM on Sep 13, 2019, 12:43:49 AM
Amanda died two years before her mother.

Lol Holy f**k I forgot about the timeline had too many cans tonight. Ya she was drifting for over 50 years. I'm just gunna pretend Burk was talking crap and an old Amanda finds out Ripley's fate.

Number13

It certainly killed the franchise for me and I know that's an unpopular opinion here. Last time I said that, someone said that I have poor taste for disliking any of the first THREE movies. But I love Alien and Aliens, they're my all time favorite movies, and I think Alien3 made AlienS pointless. Every time I watch the beginning, I say "Ripley went through all that for nothing?!" and I don't watch it much. So yeah, Alien and Aliens are flawless in my opinion, and ever since that, the series has gone downhill. I hate Alien3 like poison and I don't watch it, own it, or want it, in fact I wish they made a Double Pack with lots of special features, but you can't get all the good special features without 3 and 4 included. Alien Resurrection was crap, but I think it had "some" okay ideas, not a lot, but I would rather watch Resurrection than 3. I had fun with AVP, but it is heavily flawed and I can see why people hate it. AVPR was poorly done and the characters were very flat, the only good part was the Wolf Predator. I like Prometheus, but has some flaws, and I wish Scott made it a direct prequel to Alien and still make a franchise out of it, but David was the best part. I like Covenant, but again, has some flaws, mostly because Scott was trying to rectify the backlash he had with Prometheus not having Aliens, and again, David was the best part. The problem with the prequels was Scott wanted to focus on the Space Jockeys, and when that tanked he focused on Aliens, I just wish he met somewhere in the middle, and wish he just led it into Alien, tied up loose ends, and still have the story continue from there.

But back to my point, yes, I think Alien3 killed the franchise and it went nowhere but downhill from there. And I'm sure a lot of you will tell me I have bad taste or I'm the only one who thinks that or some shit like that, like every time I talk down about Alien3 on this site. So I'm just gonna ignore this topic so you can call me a freak or say no one agrees with me and I won't see it. So go ahead.

Kimarhi

Everyone has their own opinions.  Like what you like broheim. 

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