'Spider-Man' Director Sam Raimi to Produce 'The Last of Us' Movie for Screen Gems
http://www.thewrap.com/spider-man-director-sam-raimi-produce-last-us-movie-screen-gems/ (http://www.thewrap.com/spider-man-director-sam-raimi-produce-last-us-movie-screen-gems/)
I always feel awkward when I hear about Last Of Us because I wrote a zombie movie with a similar premise before this game came out called The Last Ones Out.
Don't know how to feel about this. :-\
The fact the game's creative director is writing the script is a more important piece of news.
Think they should do a TV show and play it when the Walking Dead is in hiatus.
365 days of Zombie/esque!
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 06, 2014, 07:35:30 PM
'Spider-Man' Director Sam Raimi to Produce 'The Last of Us' Movie for Screen Gems
http://www.thewrap.com/spider-man-director-sam-raimi-produce-last-us-movie-screen-gems/ (http://www.thewrap.com/spider-man-director-sam-raimi-produce-last-us-movie-screen-gems/)
no ty
Have you even played the Last of Us, Aspie?
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 06, 2014, 09:26:53 PM
Think they should do a TV show and play it when the Walking Dead is in hiatus.
365 days of Zombie/esque!
Nah, I think just one movie would be fine.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Mar 06, 2014, 09:31:59 PM
Have you even played the Last of Us, Aspie?
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 06, 2014, 09:26:53 PM
Think they should do a TV show and play it when the Walking Dead is in hiatus.
365 days of Zombie/esque!
Nah, I think just one movie would be fine.
yep yep yep.
Quote from: SiL on Mar 06, 2014, 09:32:40 PM
Quote from: Aspie on Mar 06, 2014, 09:30:52 PM
no ty
Produce, not direct.
raimi doesn't bother me, I just rather not see this come out during-right after the market is saturated with zombie entertainment
They ain't zombies doe
whatever those things are. :P
Infected
Quote from: Cal427eb on Mar 06, 2014, 09:39:35 PM
Infected
Like how that one movie called it's zombies "The Crazies" :P
Except the Last of Us is good.
no argument there...
But I've lost faith in movie adaptations of games :P
Quote from: Aspie on Mar 06, 2014, 09:40:38 PM
Like how that one movie called it's zombies "The Crazies" :P
They weren't zombies either, they really were just crazy. And they didn't exactly act like zombies, either.
They need to get Anson Mount from Hell on Wheels to play Joel!!!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.pictures.zimbio.com%2Fgi%2FAnson%2BMount%2BPremiere%2BAMC%2BHell%2BWheels%2BArrivals%2B8St_0Ojxmzkl.jpg&hash=a3eb066e713a92af1610f183ed39eab1fb499e18)
No they shouldn't. Leave the game's story alone and do something new.
That's what I'm expecting.
Even though Joel did survive the infection for twenty years so...
Quote from: Cal427eb on Mar 07, 2014, 12:20:16 AM
No they shouldn't. Leave the game's story alone and do something new.
Then what would be the point of making a
Last of Us movie? This is the same logic that people apply to the AssCreed movie, and I don't f**king get it there, either.
Spoiler
Besides, Jim Caviezel should play Joel. :P
Mainly because the creators of the game have already said that other than the world of Last of Us that the next games wouldn't feature the original protagonist. Making a movie of the game with the same progression is pointless imo. Just do what you were originally going to do with the series for the movie but give it a kickass story.
Like they've done with the original and the dlc.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 07, 2014, 05:38:13 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Mar 07, 2014, 12:20:16 AM
No they shouldn't. Leave the game's story alone and do something new.
Then what would be the point of making a Last of Us movie? This is the same logic that people apply to the AssCreed movie, and I don't f**king get it there, either.
lolwut
and I made the original thread as well, can someone merge the 2.
should be an hbo series to get away from AMC's walking dead show. Which fluctuates from almost great to pure cheese soap opera camp.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 26, 2014, 03:01:58 AM
should be an hbo series to get away from AMC's walking dead show. Which fluctuates from almost great to pure cheese soap opera camp.
wut, how would changing it from a movie to an HBO series prevent it from being like the Walking Dead?
HBO has better writers and a license to chase those more mature themes that AMC can't, even if AMC can show the zombie gore in equitable levels.
This isn't going to be an AMC series... it's a movie...
Cal I think you are arguing with yourself.
I said it should be an HBO series. I didn't say it was an AMC series or not a movie.
You cray cray.
You said that it should be an HBO series to get away from the Walking Dead... and I said why does it need to be on HBO when it's already a movie? Then, you responded with
Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 26, 2014, 03:07:14 AM
HBO has better writers and a license to chase those more mature themes that AMC can't, even if AMC can show the zombie gore in equitable levels.
like this was going to be on AMC, but it's not. It's going to be a movie. It doesn't need to be on HBO.
nigga u cray
It just comes down to the feels that TLOU fits episodic series moreso than a movie series because there is so much to tell.
Yeah it needs to be on Showtime
any paid cable better than free cable
Dude was going to rape and eat fourteen year old ellie. not something you can put on AMC.
It's being penned by the same writer from the game. I'm not that worried.
again we are talking about two different things.
Considering what f**king NBC allows on Hannibal... no cable is better than free cable.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 26, 2014, 03:58:58 AM
again we are talking about two different things.
I was replying to this.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 26, 2014, 03:25:13 AM
nigga u cray
It just comes down to the feels that TLOU fits episodic series moreso than a movie series because there is so much to tell.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 26, 2014, 04:11:59 AM
Considering what f**king NBC allows on Hannibal... no cable is better than free cable.
INCORRECT.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jul 26, 2014, 04:15:58 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 26, 2014, 03:58:58 AM
again we are talking about two different things.
I was replying to this.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 26, 2014, 03:25:13 AM
nigga u cray
It just comes down to the feels that TLOU fits episodic series moreso than a movie series because there is so much to tell.
He's going to fit four seasons, each of which could be a movie in itself in one movie and maintain the same emotional impact as the game? NO SIR.
Never said it would be as good as the game.
THAT'S WHY IT NEEDS TO BE A SERIES.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Jul 26, 2014, 03:32:33 AM
It's being penned by the same writer from the game. I'm not that worried.
Sony can step in and f**k things up. Hollywood has screw over so many writers before.
True, but if that happens, who cares? We still have the game.
Who says they have to include everything from the game? I'm not all bothered by, say, the Mortal Kombat movie not telling every single character's story.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 27, 2014, 03:37:39 AM
Who says they have to include everything from the game? I'm not all bothered by, say, the Mortal Kombat movie not telling every single character's story.
Well, Mortal Kombat has never been known for it's groundbreaking story anyways. :laugh:
'The Last of Us' Series in Development at HBO From 'Chernobyl' Creator
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/the-last-of-us-series-hbo-craig-mazin-neil-druckmann-1203524989/
Holy crap this has potential to be epic. HBO and the creator of Chernobyl. Dam this has me excited.
HBO has the budget and Chernobyl was fantastic one of the best gritty shows I've ever seen the mood and tone of Chernobyl is perfect for Last of Us. Only concern i have? Is the better get the cast right if they following the games characters Joel and Ellie. Joel I'm not to concerned about, cos the is plenty of good actors out there who could do Joel justice. I just hope they can cast Ellie right. That's if the follow the games story. Hope they keep it minimal like what the did with Chernobyl, rather then having shit load of episodes and series that turn to crap like The Walking Dead has.
And no f**king Maisie Williams as Ellie.
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1269660658007711746
https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1276205087673561088
https://twitter.com/Collider/status/1276204955083431937
Josh Brolin is too famous now for Joel
Anson Mount
https://images.app.goo.gl/6o9nE5f2HFDBwh5NA
https://twitter.com/The_Illuminerdi/status/1359612920636661760
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 10, 2021, 09:30:38 PM
https://twitter.com/The_Illuminerdi/status/1359612920636661760
Great actor and love him in everything he has been in but not feeling him for this role :/
https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/status/1359662856292155392
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1359709482968748034
I can feel Pedro a little bit more than Bella.
And will give them the benefit of the doubt. But at the moment, both strike me as somewhat peculiar castings.
I think someone got the GoT casting book mixed with The Last of Us, lol
I think Bella casting makes sense. She is like 17 in real life, she will probably be around 18 when shooting. but even at 18 she has one of them young looking faces that can easily pull off playing an 14yo. If Last of Us does well, and they do a part 2 she will have had an extra year or 2 to get more inshape and mature a little to play a 19yo Ellie even known she will probably be the same age as Ellie in part 2 or just a little older is part 2 happens. Also I think the role may of went in her favour, because she can play the guitar just like Ellie. As for looks she don't really look like Ellie because of her dark features like her hair and eyes. Were Ellie is a redhead with greeny blue eyes ect, but that can be sorted with hair dye and contacts or even CGI ect. But to tell you the truth i don't really care if the make her look like Ellie from the games or not. She just has to capture Ellie's spirit and emotions which is going to be one of the biggest challenges for Bella. I liked her in GOT but ain't seen her in anything else.
As for Pedro same as Bella both never came on my radar to play Joel and Ellie but I'm happy the cast him cos he was great in Narcos and GOT and as the mandalorian. So not worried about him playing Joel I'm sure he will do Joel justice.
Now the rest of the cast will be interesting to see who gets cast to play the others characters in the first game and maybe 2nd if the follow part 2 which I'm also a fan of. So be interesting to see if the ever cast Abby.
Meant to post this a few days ago, more casting news
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1383080755044098050
casting news
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1398044992996790274
Pedro Pascal (Joel), Gabriel Luna (Tommy) and Niko Parker ( Sarah) on set.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQ1B531rynI/?utm_medium=copy_link
I'm getting on board with it more and more.
Last of Us might be my all time favorite game.
Casting news
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1415738044293033984
more casting
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1418286467026231296
First look
https://twitter.com/Neil_Druckmann/status/1442292909798166528
casting news
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1468742207691800582
https://twitter.com/totalfilm/status/1506946016750227463
Yeah I've got a really good feeling about this.
Some snippets in this preview
**starts at 1:43 mark
Yup, this looking real good.
https://twitter.com/verge/status/1587432252648062978
https://mobile.twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1598004707250753536
https://mobile.twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1598005657797394432
Play the guitar 🎸 please
https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1607531879057473537
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1610703028314685445
Reviews are out. They're calling it the best video-game adaptation ever.
https://www.ign.com/articles/the-last-of-us-season-1-review
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-reviews/the-last-of-us-hbo-1235292687/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2023/01/10/last-us-review-dystopian-thriller-greatest-video-game-adaptation/
Haven't played the game :)
So the videogame adaptation curse's officially broken then, good, now can I get a good adaptation of something that didn't already ape cinema so closely in the original form?
The Last of Us already desperately wanted to be a film in most respects, which no doubt makes this transition across mediums much easier than most other adaptations.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 10, 2023, 12:21:32 PMSo the videogame adaptation curse's officially broken then, good, now can I get a good adaptation of something that didn't already ape cinema so closely in the original form?
The Last of Us already desperately wanted to be a film in most respects, which no doubt makes this transition across mediums much easier than most other adaptations.
Although much of the game's premise reminds me of
Logan (the Wolverine story). I know I'm not alone in this: when news of the show first broke numerous fanboy commentators were nominating Hugh Jackman for the role of Joel.
Not that the similarity bothers me in the slightest. In fact,
Logan reminds me of
The Road starring Viggo Mortensen (based on Cormac McCarthy's novel).
All great stories.
TC
Never got past the hotel in the original game, and won't touch the sequel with a bargepole, but I'm pretty stoked for this. Just wish they'd gotten someone who looked a bit more like Ellie, not that it's a huge issue. Obviously there will be differences between the game and the show, but there's a few great set pieces that I hope are in there.
What did everyone think of the first episode?
I never played the game, so I was a little thrown off by Ellie's personality to start off the show. Did they get that right?
Quote from: ace3g on Jan 16, 2023, 02:14:52 PMWhat did everyone think of the first episode?
I quite liked it.
QuoteI never played the game, so I was a little thrown off by Ellie's personality to start off the show. Did they get that right?
Spoiler
Neither, but when it's revealed she's been raised in a military school, being an absolute hostile brat to insurgent kidnappers running potentially deadly experiments on her starts to fit.
Thought it was a very good first episode tbh. Characters seem very close to their game counterparts, even if wrong looking Ellie is still a bit distracting. :) Glad they kept the opening scene pretty much the same, also liked the way they tied into it later in the episode.
I've seen some criticism of them changing the way the infection is spread, but it's really not a big deal for me and just seems like petty nitpicking.
I still wonder why they didn't at least part Bella's hair like Ellie's is in the game?
Love the first episode! Went beyond my expectations. 9/10 I can not wait to watch next week episode.
Very much enjoyed the first episode.
I just saw it. That was excelent, and as with the case of 'Chernobyl', Craig Mazin has done a high-quality work in this one. With that in mind, the success of this adaptation from game to small screen is also crowned by the high level of production while performing the worldbuilding of this snenario of total quarantine, where not only mutants represent a growing danger, but also uninfected humans themselves. Each setting in this first episode looks first class, while photography is key in creating an atmosphere that is far above what has been done in any project of this kind. Bella Ramsey & Pedro Pascal made a superb job in their respective roles.
Oh boy, I wish Craig Mazin could be hired for some future Alien project 😅👉👈
https://twitter.com/mashable/status/1615016658376052736
But I have never played that game! >:(
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 17, 2023, 05:48:09 AMBut I have never played that game! >:(
I only got about half way through the first one, but I don't think you need to have played them to be able to enjoy this.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 17, 2023, 05:48:09 AMBut I have never played that game! >:(
Neither have I. Stop being difficult.
Fine, I'm going to watch the first episode.
I may have questions. >:(
Caught the first episode today. Never played the game, so the story was fresh for me.
It was okay, and I'll probably tune in for the rest of the season to see how it pans out, but it kinda makes me want to play the game as I like a good zombie shoot-em-up anyway.
(I did get pulled out of it briefly due to an annoyingly careless continuity error during a tense scene, but it happens sometimes)
Brendan Fletcher didn't get a huge part here, but it's a big step up from headlining three Uwe Boll films.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 17, 2023, 08:22:43 PMFine, I'm going to watch the first episode.
I may have questions. >:(
@Local Trouble (https://s3.gifyu.com/images/giphy-3c729d91ee5b9a55d.gif)
Is the game like this? I have never played it.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 20, 2023, 02:44:53 AMIs the game like this? I have never played it.
[Dislike]
Here is a dislike button for people to push on Local.
I saw it. Now give me my likes! >:(
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 20, 2023, 10:23:46 PMI saw it. Now give me my likes! >:(
Here
you go (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=64186.msg2593403#msg2593403)😉
Haven't played the game, so I'm coming into this fresh, but I just watched the premiere. Quite liked it, will be following week-to-week now.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 22, 2023, 02:14:37 AMHaven't played the game
That's what I said! And now everyone hates me! >:(
Now I know how persecuted Randy must feel.
Man, I feel so sorry for you I can almost give Randy an apology
Spoiler
Almost
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 22, 2023, 05:40:11 AMNow I know how persecuted Randy must feel.
Simply offer an opinion and there will be an end to the horror.
I'll stick to mindless nonsensical maggot filled 70s/early 80s zombie films
I'm sure it is well made though but you know everything has to be so serious these days, I just wanna have a good time.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Jan 22, 2023, 07:52:27 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Jan 22, 2023, 05:40:11 AMNow I know how persecuted Randy must feel.
Simply offer an opinion and there will be an end to the horror.
I liked it. In fact, I liked it a lot and I'm going to keep watching it. Damn you for making me admit that! >:(
Quote from: nanison on Jan 22, 2023, 08:59:23 PMI'll stick to mindless nonsensical maggot filled 70s/early 80s zombie films
I'm sure it is well made though but you know everything has to be so serious these days, I just wanna have a good time.
I can enjoy campy horror, but the truth is I've never been a big fan of zombies. However, the horrors of
'The Last of Us' are far superior to the classic concept imo, and while in real life people can't be turned into monsters by a fungal infection, I like the sci-fi elements, which take nature as a reference...
(https://s3.gifyu.com/images/gif-10.gif)
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/28781hK/Picsart-23-01-22-21-38-24-842.jpg)
The in-universe fungal infection is presented as something that is both beautiful and terrifying; the infection look alien and fractal, like an eldritch net that expands as it consumes its hosts. It reminds me of the imagery from
Annihilation plus the eggmorphing from
Alien.
(https://i.ibb.co/gD3BSQb/Picsart-23-01-22-21-39-37-938.jpg)
Not to mention, the monsters look way better than your regular zombies.
(https://i.ibb.co/LR7BySg/last-of-us-infected.jpg)
I can't wait to see the creatures in the series 8)
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 23, 2023, 01:28:07 AMQuote from: nanison on Jan 22, 2023, 08:59:23 PMI'll stick to mindless nonsensical maggot filled 70s/early 80s zombie films
I'm sure it is well made though but you know everything has to be so serious these days, I just wanna have a good time.
I can enjoy campy horror, but the truth is I've never been a big fan of zombies. However, the horrors of 'The Last of Us' are far superior to the classic concept imo, and while in real life people can't be turned into monsters by a fungal infection, I like the sci-fi elements, which take nature as a reference...
(https://s3.gifyu.com/images/gif-10.gif)
Spoiler
(https://i.ibb.co/28781hK/Picsart-23-01-22-21-38-24-842.jpg)
The in-universe fungal infection is presented as something that is both beautiful and terrifying; the infection look alien and fractal, like an eldritch net that expands as it consumes its hosts. It reminds me of the imagery from
Annihilation plus the eggmorphing from
Alien.
(https://i.ibb.co/gD3BSQb/Picsart-23-01-22-21-39-37-938.jpg)
Not to mention, the monsters look way better than your regular zombies.
(https://i.ibb.co/LR7BySg/last-of-us-infected.jpg)
I can't wait to see the creatures in the series 8)
Spoiler
Oh good, I'm not the only one that's been thinking a lot of Annihilation.
@Immortan Jonesy I will probably end up watching it anyway as I am very susceptible for hype
Second episode was great, loved the
Spoiler
clicker attack.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 22, 2023, 09:34:20 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on Jan 22, 2023, 07:52:27 PMQuote from: Local Trouble on Jan 22, 2023, 05:40:11 AMNow I know how persecuted Randy must feel.
Simply offer an opinion and there will be an end to the horror.
I liked it. In fact, I liked it a lot and I'm going to keep watching it. Damn you for making me admit that! >:(
Was that really so hard? I agree btw, and I was expecting it to be trash.
Just finished episode 2 and cannot wait for next Monday to come. What a show!
Worth listening to.
Spoiler
Ugh, Clickers. I hate Clickers...
Another strong episode. I'm sure some of the changes they've made from the games so far will divide opinions, but I'm fully behind at least most of them.
I'm in an interesting place fan-wise, as I played the game when it came out and loved it, but haven't gone back since, so a lot of the changes aren't registering with me.
I've played the game multiple times and it is one of my favorite pieces of media of all time.
I was pretty much down with everything they did in the first episode except for one thing.
Spoiler
The Robert massacre needed to happen, without it you don't get why Tess and Joel are feared/respected by everybody that knows who they are.
The second episode I was okay with most of the changes except two:
Spoiler
Tess lack of screentime and the stalker kiss. Which was f**king stupid. But the lack of Tess in the episode is the major crime here.
In the game you were with her longer and got a much better sense on why Tess/Joel partnership was a thing that had survived for years in the apocalypse. Here not only do both not feel as dangerous as they did in the game, Tess was essentially neutered. It seems like they are going for a more Han Solo type of smuggler vs smugglers who are entirely capable of taking out two armed soldiers who get the drop on them in seconds in the game. It isn't terrible change that ruins the story for me or anything, but it isn't one I would've done. Tess wasn't with you anywhere but Boston, and you hardly go any distance with her (even though there are several encounters here), but it just feels like a swing and a miss for her character the way they did her here.
Because they are actually further ahead than I expected them to be in this point in the story, I'm actually wandering how they are going to fill the next 7 episodes.
Spoiler
bill's town, pittsburgh/henry and sam (where some elements were already used in boston), tommy, university of eastern colorado/david, SLC. I'm guessing they one off most of the game areas with single episodes and give a two piece for episodes for what was david and the ending sections.
https://twitter.com/eurogamer/status/1617916473233604611
It's been good so far, great production values. But yeah, I didn't expect them to be so far ahead in the story on episode 2. Thought Tess could have had more screentime.
I'm hoping there's going to be more story stuff in the show that's not in the game.
They absolutely nailed the Clickers in this. Holy shit.
I thought they showed them too soon honestly.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Jan 26, 2023, 07:09:23 AMI thought they showed them too soon honestly.
In what godforsaken hellhole did you first play the game?
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1619021154483847169
So now that we know Season 2 is happening I wonder what it's going to be.
The Last of Us Part 2 definitely seems like it could be made into two seasons of television. So the question in my mind is if seasons 2 and 3 of the show will be Part 2, or if they will create original content for a season 2 before moving onto the story of Part 2.
My only wish with this show is that they don't end up in a Game of Thrones situation where the show outpaces the games and ends up spoiling what will potentially be The Last of Us Part 3.
I think they will have full seasons in between what is the first and second game. Fill out the flashbacks.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 26, 2023, 11:34:53 PMQuote from: Kimarhi on Jan 26, 2023, 07:09:23 AMI thought they showed them too soon honestly.
In what godforsaken hellhole did you first play the game?
In Lexington KY.
My main gripe was that even though they do jump infection stages in the game, you had more encounters with runners before you ever encounter clickers. Clickers force you to change tactics in the game because the infection uparmors the infected body. You can shoot them to death, but it takes a whole lot more rounds to do so.
Going right to clickers without having runners after you first just isn't a step I would've taken. Again doesn't kill the show, but now runners being after you just doesn't feel as big of a threat when you downgrade from clickers.
Bruh, I grew up watching UK's sports teams but I actually hate lexington. It is full of well off kids from all over the state and ohio transplants who think they are better than Kentuckians.
So it does kind of suck. I was actually disappointed that I chose to go to school there vs WKU or Murray State. I just went thinking it would be awesome. It ended up being crackertown USA. I once walked by a pair of snobby white girls talking in front of their spanish class and were complaining that the instructor was spanish. I am also a white guy, but that kind of logic would be like me complaining that my japanese instructor was in fact japanese. What did you expect?
I came from a much poorer and much more racially diverse part of the state, so that was a big surprise to me when I got there. Also northern people are dicks. /end rant
https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1617869883584221184
https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/status/1619021684752748565
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GivingBoilingEmperorshrimp-max-1mb.gif)
Pass on that shit...
RIP
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1619789230221164546
https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1619784483343040512
Oh no, that's horrible news... :( Remember her as Renee Walker in 24, didn't know she voiced Tess too. F**k cancer.
Holly hell episode 3 was amazing in every way! Yes they deviated from the game but damn that was a great choice to do so! This show just keeps getting better! This episode was one of them few episodes in tv history that is a 10 of 10!
That ending montage music reminded me of this
Quote from: ace3g on Jan 30, 2023, 04:24:26 AMThat ending montage music reminded me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h10sJv3IacQ
Yeah, that music is in everything.
Great f**king episode, though.
Episode 3 is going to piss off a lot of people. :laugh:
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1619897053311799296
I've only ever played a small portion of the game (and watched my best friend play bits and pieces of it) but I watched the 3 episodes that are out last night and I'm enjoying the show a lot so far!
Absolutely love how the clickers and post-apocalyptic setting are handled.
The angle of them all being interconnected by a fungus hivemind is terrifying.
Yeah, episode 3 certainly broke me. :'(
That's a good show; I could not find any problems with it except for minor issues about some products they were using in the QZ that are still working fine after two decades.
The third episode is remarkable, especially the ending.
https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1620214380360089600
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 30, 2023, 06:25:35 AMEpisode 3 is going to piss off a lot of people. :laugh:
Apparently not so, and this is a good example of how to do quality and smart retcon, something that often ends in disaster and pales in comparison to the original lore. On the other hand, and regarding the sexuality of the characters on which the episode focuses, no one can question it as something 'woke', given the source material itself.
Wasn't a massive fan of Episode 3, but not because of "woke shit". Bill and Frank were gay in the game, so it seems a bit of a weird thing to be up in arms about.
I just found it brought the momentum built up in the previous two episodes to a grinding halt, personally. It'll be their "Emmy Episode", but having virtually a whole episode centred around those characters seemed unnecessary to me.
Still, it was all really well acted again and reviews have been near universally positive for it, which is a very good thing for the show going forward.
I know the characters are gay in the game. I mentioned the word 'woke' as it's something people keep saying on the internet when criticizing entertainment pieces. Clearly they can't do it here, so they were forced to judge the product on its own merits. But I bet you, if the characters weren't originally gay, the reactions would be quite different... 👎:laugh:
Now regarding the changes that make the differences with the game, I think they were executed in a good way and that's why it worked.
This dipshit and his audience are who I was referring to:
Fair enough.
The flamethrowers were cool.
Quote from: Rankles75 on Jan 31, 2023, 03:34:52 PMWasn't a massive fan of Episode 3, but not because of "woke shit". Bill and Frank were gay in the game, so it seems a bit of a weird thing to be up in arms about.
I just found it brought the momentum built up in the previous two episodes to a grinding halt, personally. It'll be their "Emmy Episode", but having virtually a whole episode centred around those characters seemed unnecessary to me.
Still, it was all really well acted again and reviews have been near universally positive for it, which is a very good thing for the show going forward.
I thought the episode was ok.
Spoiler
Was a weird choice to set the vast majority of an episode around two characters who then die at the end of the episode and presumably won't be a part of the story going forward. In the last two episode a likeable side character has died so that Joel can learn a lesson; this time the lesson was "we were put here to protect others", which is fine but I didn't think it necessary to spend around 50 minutes to make that point when those characters aren't the focus of the show.
Standalone episodes are fine, but that is kind of following TWD path. You could have a well thought and put together episode when you do this, but you could also have a rushed 50 minute piece of dog shit like TWD frequently pumped out on their standalones with characters put into such hairbrained situations and having such goofy and silly responses that it kills the mojo of the show overall.
Just knowing TWD history on such things makes me wary of TLOU taking this direction.
Spoiler
I can guess another standalone episode will be Ellie and Riley however this actually sets up nicely as a standalone
Ultimately I still like the game's story over the shows. Again adaptations are having to adapt to the medium they are being told in, so changes themselves aren't bad. But I miss the banter that Bill, Ellie, and Joel had in the town.
As for season 2 of TLOU, I really hope they don't jump ahead again. The MAIN problem with the second game is
Spoiler
the lack of time you get with both characters from the first game. Actually having seasons between shows to fill in that time would help alleviate the feelings of the second game AS WELL as make you feel more attached when it does happen.
I personally don't think they will jump ahead because that will put them too far ahead of the third game (which hasn't even been announced yet) and they will run into the GOT problem.
E3 was heart-breaking. Beautifully painful. I'm loving this series. Cannot wait for next Monday.
I would love to see a full episode (or even a full series) based around the initial Jakarta outbreak scenes from
Ep. 2.
That bit was intense.
Maybe the weakest episode so far, but still good.
I'm gonna be honest. I don't think the show is as good as the game. It isn't terrible, it just isn't AS good. My main problem so far is that Joel (and to a lesser degree Tess) just isn't the heads up situationally aware beast he was in the original game. TV joel just feels like Joel lite. He literally feels like they could've picked any down on their luck hardass in boston to play his role, as opposed to THE most badass smuggler in a QZ zone.
And I realize it would be impossible for the action to be the same as the game because that would be an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, but some semblance of original Joel would've been nice. This Joel feels like the kind of Joel that OG Joel killed by the dozens.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Feb 06, 2023, 06:13:31 AMThis Joel feels like the kind of Joel that OG Joel killed by the dozens.
Is it like the difference between UK in real life and UK in one of your typical Dynasty Mode playthroughs?
Exactly.
Dynasty UK wouldn't let people sneak up on him sleeping.
Can't believe I didn't recognise "Kathleen" as Rose from Two and a Half Men... ::)
Good episode, picked up the pace after last week's diversion. Got a feeling that the thing under the floor took several attempts and all of my ammo to kill in the game.
I couldn't tell if that was going to be one of the tendrils letting them know the infection was in the city or a
Spoiler
bloater.
.
I also think having them stop in Kansas City instead of Pittsburgh actually makes more sense narratively. Going from KC to Wyoming is a whole lot easier losing a truck vs going from PITTSBURGH to Wyoming. Pitt to Wyoming with no vehicle would essentially be a f**k this shit I'm out meme.
I also made that trip earlier in the year. Except I went into SD (badlands) and then into Wyoming (devils tower) from Kansas City. That is lots of land to cover.
I did knock off about eight states in that road trip though.
The fourth episode reminds me of Walking Dead, but the first season or so. The pacing's also much better.
Next episode will air this Friday because of the Super Bowl.
I'm only up to episode 3, but show is awesome. I really like number 3, it's probably an essential (might not feel like it now) otherwise just following Ellie and Joel around will get repetitive. Gave you a look into a life during the chaos.
Will smash number 4 tonight!
Quote from: Highland on Feb 09, 2023, 11:15:36 PMI'm only up to episode 3, but show is awesome.
I was expecting you to say something else.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 10, 2023, 01:42:55 AMQuote from: Highland on Feb 09, 2023, 11:15:36 PMI'm only up to episode 3, but show is awesome.
I was expecting you to say something else.
I finished the game back in the day so I knew it would be good. I'm not sure how you could screw this show up if you just follow the game, since it's one of the best story's out there.
Still time though... :laugh:
I just finished the game. If the show follows it as closely as it has so far, I think it might piss a lot of people off. I do think it's better as a TV show, though, since it seemed to me that a lot of times the gameplay was getting in the way of the story they wanted to tell.
I actually prefer the game story to the show. But it has more to do with needless character tweaks than anything.
I haven't seen any more episodes. I'll see if I catch up later!!!🙈🙊😅👉👈
Edit: Sometimes I don't feel like watching at things, even if it's good or acceptable.😔👉👈
Episode 5 is fantastic.
Is Joel still acting like the 2013 UK Wildcats?
Well, that was a devastating and extremely intense hour of TV...
Great episode. The ending was brutally bleak.
Love Episode 5! Is crazy how this show keeps getting better and better.
Joel was closer to OG Joel in this episode. But here is my most noticed difference between the game and the show.
Everybody knows that action is half of every relationship. Talking and communicating are the other half. Games do a better job at mimicking action than films or shows do. So repeated encounters and story moments in the game (that aren't even focused on action but just telling backstory usually through exploration) you cannot do in limited run time in the show. There are no throwing darts, or talking about ice cream trucks or talking about taking Harley Davidsons across country moments in the show.
I still think that even though the show has been good, and that it is a good adaptation of the game, that it IS a lesser version of the story than what the game was.
To me the game was much more impactful than what happened in episode 5.
MAJOR SPOILERS Below.
Spoiler
https://youtu.be/kPMkD3YLrHY
"That's just the way he sounds. He has an asshole-voice." :laugh:
Episode 6 was ... emotional.
Spoiler
Is Joel gonna die?
No. I just watched episode 7 preview.
Another excellent episode.
It mostly follows the game, which I didn't play, but there are some movie versions in YT that use the cut scenes and some gameplay.
The first game's OK. About the second game, they should have ended with the first.
6th episode is my favorite so far. It actually addresses in a fair manner what I thought was the weakest part of the show, and actually uses said weakness to give the shows story some extra depth and nuance that this part in the game was lacking. The writers were totally aware that this Joel wasnt game Joel. Something I thought they hadn't been and had just been using Joel's lack of teeth in this version of the story as a way to hide not having an infinite budget for an opening season of a series with its lack of enemy encounters.
The first time you play TLOU game, Joels reaction here feels somewhat out of left field, and only after playing through the full game, or on replays does it seem normalized. You can figure it out in the game of course, why he is doing what he does in said scene, but it wasn't set up near as well as the show.
https://twitter.com/TheLastofUsHBO/status/1628801862764752899
Yet another good episode. They did a good job of
Spoiler
meshing the flashback with the aftermath of episode six so we didn't spend an entire two weeks in suspense over the cliffhanger.
Also, I haven't played the DLC this is based on, but I got some beginning of Uncharted 4 vibes from the sneaking out thing.
TLOU Left Behind DLC is one of the best story dlcs of all time. I'm not even sure WHY I love it, it just reminds me so much of being a kid that it brings back huge nostalgia factors.
It also lays the groundwork for Ellie to become beast Ellie.
(https://i.ibb.co/r4QdTVV/Picsart-23-03-02-21-53-06-430.jpg)
https://twitter.com/BritishVogue/status/1630941002075611136
Show continues to be awesome, the only worry is there's only two episodes left and they've still got a fair amount to get through.
They'll just go longer than usual episodes I suspect.
They are also rearranging the order of events to help condense what would be longer sections of the game.
There will just be one episode per section I guess. Thinking about it, if you take the gameplay elements out, there's not actually a lot of story to get through.
That was great, and tense as hell.
Spoiler
Kind of funny how Ellie killed Joel with a meat cleaver. Troy Baker still got a better part than Nolan North did in the Uncharted movie. :laugh:
I was fairly crap at the game, and never reached this point as a result, but I knew pretty much what to expect. Fantastic episode, and arguably Bella Ramsey's best performance in the show to date.
Hope the finale is significantly longer though, as it feels like we haven't had enough of a buildup to it. Will be intrigued to see how closely they stick to the game (or not).
There are multiple things I dislike about the series over the game, but for the most part they are miniscule and feel overall this was one of the most faithful adaptations from vidya to screen I've ever seen. I say that because I've not seen every adaptation. Especially when they made my MAJOR potentially character breaking plot point a focal part of an episode in the best episode of the season.
I wonder if they would deviate more with the second season, considering how mixed the responses were for the second game.
Or maybe fit in another season before the events of the second game.
Apparently the finale is 45 minutes long, I was hoping it'd be twice that... :(
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 07, 2023, 11:44:22 AMI wonder if they would deviate more with the second season, considering how mixed the responses were for the second game.
Or maybe fit in another season before the events of the second game.
I have no idea what they are gonna do but I think TLOU 2 could be two seasons of television.
I don't think they will follow exactly with the way the second game went. I can see the story told in Ellie and Abbie's flashbacks as being part of the story, vs the "present day" portions being maybe a third season.
The money making part of the show, just like the first game is the interaction between Joel and Ellie.
Spoiler
To sever that as early as they did in the second game would go over even WORSE with a TV crowd imo than even did with gamers.
43 minutes is kinda disappointing. I'm betting the final confrontation is gonna be weaksauce.
God of War director likes the series
https://twitter.com/corybarlog/status/1631005845327843328
https://twitter.com/corybarlog/status/1631020560825356289
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 07, 2023, 10:26:19 PMI don't think they will follow exactly with the way the second game went. I can see the story told in Ellie and Abbie's flashbacks as being part of the story, vs the "present day" portions being maybe a third season.
The money making part of the show, just like the first game is the interaction between Joel and Ellie.
Spoiler
To sever that as early as they did in the second game would go over even WORSE with a TV crowd imo than even did with gamers.
43 minutes is kinda disappointing. I'm betting the final confrontation is gonna be weaksauce.
In regards what's in your spoiler tags;
Spoiler
I like TV Joel a lot more than Game Joel and feel like it'll be quite jarring to kill him off so soon.
That is why I don't think the 2nd season will necessarily correlate entirely with the game.
Troy got a little emotional talking at the end of the vid. It helps as a creator of a work if you have people legitimately passionate about the creative project.
https://twitter.com/TheLastofUsHBO/status/1633890393971408898
Overall a pretty good run.
It could have used a little more time, but overall an effective finale.
Way too short, could've used a little bit more beef, as it didn't feel as impactful as the game.
Spoiler
Marlene was about to lose control of the fireflies in the game, and was struggling with her decision. It is implied had she not been about to lose control, that she might've went against it. It gave her a little bit more depth than what the show gave her. The intro flashback wasn't good enough for Ashley Johnson either. Their should've been a little more time given to OG Ellie. This was closer to VG Joel in his John Wick mode in the hospital, but I felt that most of the action sequences could've used a more gritty fight choreography than what we got. I suspect it will be improved in the sequel with the known eyes that will watch it and the budget upgrades. The final battle in the hospital in the game was like forcing you to be peak Joel against automatic weapons with barricaded and patrolling enemies. This was somewhat the same but it needed more of a slow burn imo.
Still, it is easily the best VG adaptation I've ever watched.
6th episode was the Apex episode and was what was best with the TV show adaptation. If I give the game a 10/10, then I'd give this adaptation an 8/10 (nothing bad, it just isn't as well explored and realized as the game was and there are a few aesthetic and artistic directions they went I liked better originally). I'd give Pedro a 10/10 in his version of Joel and Bella a 9. Not because she isn't killing it as Ellie, but just because she sometimes has that young actor thing going on. I've never seen a hundred percent believable young/inexperienced actor, so she is definitely well above the grade.
All in all I think it was pretty solid, and has potential to be really good. If they DO follow the second game, I wonder if they can write it better than it was for the show? I'm still betting they do a season between where they are in the game and where they are in the show.
Ok, I was wrong to be worried about the run time for the finale. Like the majority of the season, they absolutely nailed it! Shame I'm probably going to hate the second season for fairy obvious reasons, but this was the perfect example of how to translate a game to a TV series.
What a disappointment. Nine episodes that went absolutely nowhere. Terrible script, paper thin characters, leaden pacing and some very poor writing. Given the premise, where was the tension or sense of dread???
Quote from: Rudiger on Mar 14, 2023, 09:44:57 AMWhat a disappointment. Nine episodes that went absolutely nowhere. Terrible script, paper thin characters, leaden pacing and some very poor writing. Given the premise, where was the tension or sense of dread???
You have to look at it this way. They're adapting a 40 hour game into a 9 hour tv series. There's gonna be chunks of stuff cut from the source material. It's just the way it is.
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 14, 2023, 04:30:35 PMYou have to look at it this way. They're adapting a 40 hour game into a 9 hour tv series. There's gonna be chunks of stuff cut from the source material. It's just the way it is.
That doesn't excuse the poor quality of the writing. If there's that much good content in a 40 hour game, then a 9 hour tv show should have been sensational.
This sounds just like a hot take to stir the pot if you don't give examples of what you mean. Especially since you are going against the grain of what TLOU series is known for. Complicated characters and a good story.
I don't think the show is as good as the game, but it wasn't dog water either.
I think overall I'm disappointed with it. Could have easily done this over 25 episodes. Hardly any infected even appear after the brilliant fifth episode. I was expecting a big action packed finale. Even the sewer stuff and the bus wasn't there.
By the way Blu-Ray has been announced.
https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=32284
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 14, 2023, 05:22:54 PMThis sounds just like a hot take to stir the pot if you don't give examples of what you mean. Especially since you are going against the grain of what TLOU series is known for. Complicated characters and a good story.
I don't think the show is as good as the game, but it wasn't dog water either.
As I mentioned previously, the script was terrible, the characters were paper thin, the pacing was slow. I expected some scares or some thrills but there were none. And the two main characters were just so dumb. The world they live in is supposed to be full of danger, but they just wander about in the open - or drive about in noisy cars - as if they didn't have a care in the world. They shouldn't have lasted five minutes.
Only one third of the population is alive in TLOU times, so the fact that there are huge portions of the US uninhabited before infection only means it is more unihabited after it. The US isn't some great city spanning from New York City to Los Angeles. There are huge swaths of land in the US where nobody lives.
The infected also stay around the meat, and eventually die off themselves. They aren't technically undead.
So driving around in a truck COULD be risky, if you were in a place like Kansas City.......where they were immediately attacked after venturing inside. Other places, where there weren't quarantine zones, or former quarantine zones wouldn't have had people just hanging around roads for days on end where people MIGHT come by.
Cutting through the forested and uninhabited areas of the US is smart, since cordyceps isn't cross species, and in a place like Wyoming, that only has 500,000 plus people in it before hand, despite being 3% bigger than the UK, means that almost NO human enemies were around and infected would be in the townships where they once were.
Of course, you do you. I do agree that there should've been more and better action sequences. The lack of infected after the fifth episode and being regulated to flashbacks when there were ones was a definite L. The short battle sequences with human enemies were also very cable ish. It reminded me a little bit of the opening seasons of GOT, where there was money spent on the production, but it didn't seem to go where it needed to. Neither production looked or felt terrible, but it was like they didn't spend the money fully on effects and choreography.
The final test I have of you: Do you like Prometheus?
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 15, 2023, 05:55:25 PMThe final test I have of you: Do you like Prometheus?
f**k no. It's beautifully shot though; that's its one saving grace.
Well, I don't agree with your overall assessment of TLOU, but you are an okay individual in my book.
Quote from: Rudiger on Mar 14, 2023, 09:44:57 AMWhat a disappointment. Nine episodes that went absolutely nowhere. Terrible script, paper thin characters, leaden pacing and some very poor writing. Given the premise, where was the tension or sense of dread???
I did not play the first game but was able to watch the cut scenes and some gameplay to put them together, and noticed that the TV show follows the game except for some changes and additions which weren't drastic. I also read what others in other fora said about the plot, and they concluded that it's fairly regular. For some events, the game does better, and for other, the show.
That said, I think the show writers could not have done much because they mostly repeated the game, and game developers focus more on gaming, such as exploration, combat, puzzles, and C and C, rather than on dialogue and characterization. That should be the case as games are by default interactive. If so, then perhaps they could have done better had they just based the show on the game and come up with more material. One of those I found intriguing was the episode about Indonesia.
Finally, I've seen part of the second game, and if they plan to do the same for the second season, then I think you'll find the season season worse. It's like a teen drama mixed with combat and set in a post-apocalyptic world but with more conveniences.
Well I mean the fact Ellie acts like a teen in the second game is in fact because she is a teen.
I know some people might not LIKE media focused on teens, but as somebody who has commanded that age group in the military, teens don't stop acting like teens just because you want them to. Teenage like behavior continues on into a persons early twenties at the earliest for like 90% of people I've known, with some people not making the right adjustments (still living like teens) in their life until WAY later.
There is another major plot point that people are going to have a WAY bigger problem with imo. Though I think they will restructure the story so this doesn't happen so early in the plot.
But can they fight an Alien?
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 17, 2023, 05:39:10 PMThere is another major plot point that people are going to have a WAY bigger problem with imo. Though I think they will restructure the story so this doesn't happen so early in the plot.
I hope season two shows us more of Dynasty Mode Joel.
It will be more like Dynasty mode Ellie. She's like a human buzzsaw.
Spoiler
What is interesting is how they made Ellie believable as a man killer in the game. She's only dangerous with weapons, like most people, but when she has them she is uber lethal because she is ruthless. However, Abbie beats the shit out of her without them. The fact that she isn't invulnerable (and is even more f**ked up emotionally in the sequel) is why I don't consider her a mary sue. Still I suspect there will be plenty of problems with her character in season 2 because people won't think a woman should be able to hack to death somebody with a machete.
It's not so much that she's a teen but that the second game essentially becomes melodrama, with revenge, various affairs, betrayal, etc. Not that story writers could have done better as the context is already slim in terms of content, and there's not much to do in a post-apocalyptic world except tie that melodrama with adventure and encountering more weird groups. Also, with a TV show, melodrama is inevitable. And because she and the rest are mostly young, then it becomes like a teen drama, which makes it even goofier in light of its post-apocalyptic content, e.g., need to include dances and parties, gossip, boyfriends and girlfriends, etc. The implication is that that world has become normalized, with intrusions via various cults, fears of shortages, forced labor, etc., getting in the way.
Given that, I would have allowed that to a point, and then show things falling apart, until we have something like the ending of On the Beach. That'd probably shock the dickens out of viewers expecting redemption.
Wow is this gaming these days?
In my time all you had to do was go from A to B, bypass or beat a number of obstacles and save the princess. I don't think I would enjoy soap opera games with 6 hours of dialogue in between small stretches of gameplay.
Sounds like Karateka. Games became more sophisticated than that during the same period, e.g., Ultima, Below the Root, etc.
Quote from: ralfy on Mar 18, 2023, 02:08:52 AMIt's not so much that she's a teen but that the second game essentially becomes melodrama, with revenge, various affairs, betrayal, etc. Not that story writers could have done better as the context is already slim in terms of content, and there's not much to do in a post-apocalyptic world except tie that melodrama with adventure and encountering more weird groups. Also, with a TV show, melodrama is inevitable. And because she and the rest are mostly young, then it becomes like a teen drama, which makes it even goofier in light of its post-apocalyptic content, e.g., need to include dances and parties, gossip, boyfriends and girlfriends, etc. The implication is that that world has become normalized, with intrusions via various cults, fears of shortages, forced labor, etc., getting in the way.
Given that, I would have allowed that to a point, and then show things falling apart, until we have something like the ending of On the Beach. That'd probably shock the dickens out of viewers expecting redemption.
Melodrama's not always guaranteed, otherwise I would agree.
Quote from: nanison on Mar 18, 2023, 01:26:46 PMWow is this gaming these days?
In my time all you had to do was go from A to B, bypass or beat a number of obstacles and save the princess. I don't think I would enjoy soap opera games with 6 hours of dialogue in between small stretches of gameplay.
Videogames can explore Shandification in ways no other medium can, it is what makes them special.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ3GDcMXBFI
I finished watching the ninth episode the other night and thought it was alright. As far as video game adaptations go, this is the best one yet... but I think we all know the bar is set pretty low at this point.
The 5th episode had me fully hyped to see how they would handle the rest of the game's story but the remaining episodes lacked some good tension and buildup... and cordyceps.
I think they will certainly have issues adapting TLOU II's story as the game already has its own storytelling and pacing issues.
How quickly people forget the impeccable Castlevania and Cyberpunk Edgerunners.
Had high hopes for this series but what a waste of 9 episodes. Where were the infected? barely made an appearance, atleast 2 episodes were just wasting time with filler nonsense, maybe even 3. Just awful.
5/10 wont be expecting much from season 2.
Considering the fact that they were limiting the first game's story to one season and only 9 episodes, I agree that they wasted time on flashback episodes when they should have focused more on Joel and Ellie's journey together and who they meet along the way.
I think there is truth in the conspiracy that Druckerman deliberately pandered to the Emmys with some of the episodes being the way they are. Especially the third one. I felt some of the run time should've went to Tess in the earlier episodes, and more interaction with Joel and Ellie in others, Henry and Sam, David's group, and the Fireflies. More tense action sequences in general. I initially was extremely disappointed that OG Joel was absent, but after the sixth episode, which I consider to be the best episode of the series, I accepted that this was both a mentally and physically broken Joel and enjoyed the series better afterwards. I also hated the mouth tendril things that the runners had. That was cheezy. I think Druckerman was hoping that the flashbacks with the infected in the 8th and 9th would count to us as infected making an appearance. But if you played the game, both infected sequences were crazy in comparison to what we got, and weren't flashbacks (well I guess Left Behind depending on when you play it COULD be considered a FB).
I didn't mind the lack of infected tbh because in both the game and in zombie narratives in particular it is almost always the other humans you have to worry about. In the game I found them to be more of a nuisance than a challenge. Usually I would get them to chase me and have them run right into a bomb or hit em with the molotov. In OG grounded when you literally had nothing I hated having to sneak past all of them or choke them all out. Though sneaking past bloaters was pretty tense, the constant bricking/bottling or choking them was boring. The human enemies were much more interesting to encounter.
Still maintain that it was a pretty solid narrative for a live action adaptation. I think it is EASIER to make more faithful adaptations in animation like Edgerunners and Castlevania because there is way less overhead. If you miss the mark on those shows you don't lose your ass to the tunes of millions like you do with film or a mini series.
Druckerman pandered a little bit, which to me hurt the narrative, but it didn't hurt their production any because it is one of the most popular shows that HBO has had that isn't GOT related.
Quote from: ralfy on Mar 18, 2023, 02:08:52 AMIt's not so much that she's a teen but that the second game essentially becomes melodrama, with revenge, various affairs, betrayal, etc. Not that story writers could have done better as the context is already slim in terms of content, and there's not much to do in a post-apocalyptic world except tie that melodrama with adventure and encountering more weird groups. Also, with a TV show, melodrama is inevitable. And because she and the rest are mostly young, then it becomes like a teen drama, which makes it even goofier in light of its post-apocalyptic content, e.g., need to include dances and parties, gossip, boyfriends and girlfriends, etc. The implication is that that world has become normalized, with intrusions via various cults, fears of shortages, forced labor, etc., getting in the way.
Given that, I would have allowed that to a point, and then show things falling apart, until we have something like the ending of On the Beach. That'd probably shock the dickens out of viewers expecting redemption.
Abby and Dina are the only ones about the same age. The WLF members all vary in age,
Spoiler
but the fireflies that the WLF took in are older than Ellie and not part of the same group
. The age gamut runs from kids to old adults in both Jackson and the WLF camps, but all characters you meet in the periphery are inconsequential. Aside from that, when you see parties at Jackson and people eating in a cafeteria at the WLF compound.........I don't think that is very atypical behavior. Humans will try to normalize just about every situation they are in. If you had a secure compound would you not eat in it? Just because everywhere else was struggling would you run past the secure perimeter and become a caveman to? I hate it when media STOPS portraying humans as human. Just because the world is miserable and barely holding on doesn't mean that all hope and sense of security dies with it. Even demons dream of getting out of hell.
TLOU2 had hella pacing issues, and was an unstructured mess, that ruined a greatly improved combat system over the first game with a story that was almost unplayable because of what they did to characters of the first game. It wasn't because there was a teenage melodrama happening.
I think you can argue the ellie being a mary sue part more convincingly than you can that point.
8/10 from me. Cannot wait for season 2.
Overall it was solid and decent watch (obviously not as good as the game)
My initial thoughts about Episode 3 being good because "following Joel and Ellie around might become stale" kinda came to fruition unfortunately. They played it very safe and there's at least 2 episodes that are wasted on such a short series.
Think they definitely needed a 10th episode or better pacing. We got there way too fast.
https://twitter.com/DomTheBombYT/status/1645883751069614086
https://twitter.com/DomTheBombYT/status/1652315550343913472
https://twitter.com/StreamOnMax/status/1744765981065654576
Is she gonna be the swole chick with the golf club?
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1745530975000650240
https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/status/1763601960194728069
She's just going to be in every Naughty Dog adaptation. :laugh:
First season was good but not that good. I thought the unanimous praise was too much. I'm not sure I'll watch season 2.