Quote from: The Old One on Aug 15, 2018, 04:16:38 PMTime and time again, Disney has shown reluctance to allow that.
And has 20th Century Fox tried to do something "artistic" and "innovative" with the Alien franchise that's been?
Covenant was nothing but a braindead rehash of the first Alien movies, trying to pander to the gore-hungry audience, IMO. And everything else about that movie were awful ideas.
It might be Scott's product, but it was bad. Bad as a movie, bad for the business and bad for the franchise.
For me, quality is more important that "vision" or "innovation", and the last Alien entries haven't been actually good. There are a couple salvagable things here and there, but overall they were a mess. Movies shouldn't be a mess.
That's why they need supervision, of someone that knows better than Scott. It just looks like they gave all the money to Scott and then disappeared, they closed their eyes and just expected him to do masterpieces or something. They weren't.
If you're going to produce "creative freedom" movies, at least the producers should be people who recognize when a product is a good idea or a bad idea. The prequels were bad ideas and bad movies.
Disney usually produces quality movies. That's already something better than going out there like a blind man trying to hit something with a stick, which is what Fox seems to do. Sometimes they hit gold (Matt Reeve's
Planet of the Apes trilogy), but twice the times, they not only hit crap but they keep hitting it (Simon Kinberg, with many bad
X-Men movies; and they would be crazy if they give more money and power to Scott after
Covenant), unapologeticly, and keep throwing money at it.
To be fair,
some of the stuff Kinberg and Scott have done are pretty good, but some others are simply awful, sometimes again and again, and they keep giving them all the chances. That just creates inconsistent movie franchises that can end up dead at any point, and that makes hard to invest on that.
At least you should not contradict yourself with the "creative freedom" and "uncompromised innovation" thing and don't insist hiring Scott again. Having him back after TWO movie prequels, which both made the same mistakes, and asking for a third one we all know how's going to and... that's NOT innovation; it's the opposite to innovation. Give the franchise to someone else with new ideas.
Maybe Scott shouldn't have come back after the original
Alien with his rancid ideas for the Jockeys and the xenos; I think everything would have been better that way.
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 15, 2018, 04:16:38 PMAttempting to popularize the series by removing elements that have been present from 1979 is creatively bankrupt, the worst thing they could do.
Isn't an Alien PG-13 movie an "uncompromised" vision? Having to include gore, sex allegories and swearing in the Alien movies is kind of a pretty "established, standard" idea... wouldn't the idea of an Alien PG-13 movie be "innovative", then?
This new approach could actually revitalize the franchise. Sadly, Covenant was all the opposite to that; it felt only like the hundredth rehash of the Alien franchise, hitting all the clichés and made worse by the braindead characters from
Prometheus. It's clear the franchise needs something NEW, not more Ridley Scott.