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Title: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 12, 2023, 08:38:37 PM
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1613633058971783185

QuoteNoah Hawley's long awaited Alien series will finally begin shooting this year.

"Noah is currently in production on the fifth season of Fargo but he's in active preproduction on Alien, he's written scripts," said FX Boss John Landgraf providing an update at TCA on the long-in-the-works series.

"I think he's meeting with his production designer in Austin this weekend, gearing up for production this year after he completes the fifth season of Fargo."

At last year's virtual TCA winter tour, Landgraf specified that Hawley's Alien, "takes place before Ripley. It's the first story that takes place in the Alien franchise on Earth."

"It takes place on our planet. Right near the end of this century we're in — so 70-odd years from now," added Landgraf then.

"Ripley won't be a part of it or any of the other characters of Alien other than the alien itself," the exec said.

Hawley's Alien series was first announced during the pandemic at the Disney Investor Day in December 2020.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 12, 2023, 09:08:49 PM
It's about bloody time.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Jan 12, 2023, 09:24:10 PM
https://collider.com/alien-series-noah-hawley-fx-pre-production/

Similar article that says we will see it in 2023.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Gimitko on Jan 12, 2023, 09:32:12 PM
The supposed 2023 release was something Landgraf said before production was delayed by a year, im assuming Collider is getting that from there.
Fargo 5 wraps in April, Production Weekly says this series starts filming mid-2023, so the summer.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Jan 12, 2023, 09:45:19 PM
I'll be surprised if we see anything this year from the show or film. Mayyyybe the first or so episode of the series it at all, but I'm expecting it all to hit in 2024.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Gimitko on Jan 12, 2023, 10:05:18 PM
The composer of Fargo and Legion confirms, indicating he will be the one scoring it:

https://twitter.com/jeffersonrusso/status/1613639276880867328?s=20&t=ZldAY2ByrITEudUd97FLFA
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Tusky on Jan 12, 2023, 11:43:48 PM
 Its about time we had some ALIEN news.
Not familiar with either of these gentleman but who knows?
Not the ALIEN5 movie i was hoping for but i remain skeptical even though Sir Sir Ridley Scott is involved.

Please no AI crap in the forefront of the script.

And for godamn sake.

No stupid robot creates  the ALIEN as the space jokey already made them centuries ago.

Sgt Stevens
NZCM
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Leggs.obj on Jan 13, 2023, 12:52:41 AM
I hope they keep some of that concept art from last year!
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 13, 2023, 04:52:18 AM
Quote from: Gimitko on Jan 12, 2023, 10:05:18 PMThe composer of Fargo and Legion confirms, indicating he will be the one scoring it:

https://twitter.com/jeffersonrusso/status/1613639276880867328?s=20&t=ZldAY2ByrITEudUd97FLFA


Omg f**k yes



Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Local Trouble on Jan 13, 2023, 05:11:59 AM
Does he compose the music for all the dance numbers?
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 13, 2023, 05:16:01 AM

Generally, sometimes Noah Hawley even sings.

Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Local Trouble on Jan 13, 2023, 05:18:31 AM
Jeff Russo > Mark Griskey?
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 13, 2023, 05:24:10 AM
Do you actually care or are you just fishing? I think Mark Griskey hasn't had the chance to stretch like Jeff Russo has, he only started getting royalties recently.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Jan 13, 2023, 05:27:25 AM
Is it likely well see the Fede Alverez Alien Romulus film on Hulu in mid 2024 and perhaps the Noah Hawley Alien TV series premier on Hulu later that year perhaps, Wonder if they'll be any cross promotion between the two projects? But it's very likely there to be separate and stand alone.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Local Trouble on Jan 13, 2023, 05:28:45 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 13, 2023, 05:24:10 AMDo you actually care or are you just fishing? I think Mark Griskey hasn't had the chance to stretch like Jeff Russo has, he only started getting royalties recently.

I always care.

In fact, I think Mark Griskey would be far better suited to score modern Star Wars than the other composers they've been hiring lately.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Gimitko on Jan 17, 2023, 04:09:46 AM
Scott's Blade Runner show for Amazon starts filming on July 17 and wraps in Spring 2024, if anyone is interested. Production time frame for the Alien show likely to be very similar.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 17, 2023, 09:28:20 PM
Any source on this? By wrapping in Spring 2024 you mean post-production as well?
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Gimitko on Jan 18, 2023, 12:36:30 AM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 17, 2023, 09:28:20 PMAny source on this? By wrapping in Spring 2024 you mean post-production as well?
I am referring to filming itself:
https://moviesr.net/p-sci-fi-series-blade-runner-2099-begins-filming-in-summer-2023-at-amazon

It reportedly has 10 episodes and a high budget, the time frame makes sense.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 18, 2023, 07:02:53 PM
I've never heard of Midgard Times. How legit is this? If I'm not mistaken nobody else (including Irish websites) has reported this news.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: S.E.B. on Jan 19, 2023, 11:32:18 PM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Jan 13, 2023, 05:27:25 AMIs it likely well see the Fede Alverez Alien Romulus film on Hulu in mid 2024 and perhaps the Noah Hawley Alien TV series premier on Hulu later that year perhaps, Wonder if they'll be any cross promotion between the two projects? But it's very likely there to be separate and stand alone.

I think it would be pretty intriguing if they reference each other in one way or another. Maybe not in an overt kind way, but some subtle hints here and there would definitely be give these new additions some extra oomph.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Sabres21768 on Jan 28, 2023, 04:14:36 PM
Quote from: Tusky on Jan 12, 2023, 11:43:48 PMIts about time we had some ALIEN news.
Not familiar with either of these gentleman but who knows?
Not the ALIEN5 movie i was hoping for but i remain skeptical even though Sir Sir Ridley Scott is involved.

Please no AI crap in the forefront of the script.

And for godamn sake.

No stupid robot creates  the ALIEN as the space jokey already made them centuries ago.

Sgt Stevens
NZCM

100% this!
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Enjoy on Jan 31, 2023, 12:32:50 AM
Will the queen royal jelly as a drug be in the show?
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 03, 2023, 06:40:36 AM
I still stand by the accelerant being the franchise's live action version of the royal jelly - in terms of a story device - so I don't think we'll see the royal jelly.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Kane's other son on Feb 03, 2023, 08:54:21 AM
I wouldn't mind the facehugger injecting the host with a variant of the black goo that combines with the host's DNA, instead of impregnating them with an embryo.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 03, 2023, 11:12:56 AM
You mean Plagarius Praepotens?
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 03, 2023, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 03, 2023, 06:40:36 AMI still stand by the accelerant being the franchise's live action version of the royal jelly - in terms of a story device - so I don't think we'll see the royal jelly.

Well, any idea if the live action version of the royal jelly might appear? ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 04, 2023, 07:55:21 AM
As far as I'm aware, no. But that's not a certainty by any stretch.


Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 03, 2023, 11:12:56 AMYou mean Plagarius Praepotens?

I really do love PP. Loved it reintroducing this concept.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 07, 2023, 05:17:02 AM
Quote from: Enjoy on Jan 31, 2023, 12:32:50 AMWill the queen royal jelly as a drug be in the show?

I bet with the right dose you can party hard all night! 😅👉👈

(https://s3.gifyu.com/images/lv_0_20230207020152.gif)

Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2023, 02:56:59 PM
Nothing particularly much or new - https://www.cbr.com/noah-hawley-alien-series-update/

QuoteSpeaking to TVLine, FX chief John Landgraf shared that Hawley has finished the scripts and is in "active preproduction" on Season 1 of his Alien series. "That's gearing up for production this year," Landgraf added. According to the FX boss, Hawley has also met with his production designer and will begin shooting Alien after he completes Fargo Season 5.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Ingwar on Apr 08, 2023, 05:36:18 PM
Season 1? I thought it was limited series only, unless they just call it season 1 as it's technically first season.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 08, 2023, 07:26:59 PM
As far as I'm aware, I don't think it's been confirmed one way or the other.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 15, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
Hawley introduced a showing of Alien in Austin recently. Doesn't sound like he said too much, though.

Quotei remember him saying he'll write the show this summer and that it'll come out at the end of next year. he was interested in replicating the tone of the first movie specifically

https://twitter.com/EsPyramid/status/1647332105502838786
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 15, 2023, 11:54:06 PM
Fargo felt like a natural extension of that first film, hoping it will be the same for Alien.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 16, 2023, 12:22:18 AM
Yeah, I watched all the seasons and I can't wait for the fifth one 8)

Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Necronomicon II on Apr 16, 2023, 03:19:29 AM
CRT monitors and griping please.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: JDrums on Apr 16, 2023, 06:45:08 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 15, 2023, 08:31:30 PMHawley introduced a showing of Alien in Austin recently. Doesn't sound like he said too much, though.

Quotei remember him saying he'll write the show this summer and that it'll come out at the end of next year. he was interested in replicating the tone of the first movie specifically


https://twitter.com/EsPyramid/status/1647332105502838786

Mmm...But wasn't it mentioned that the writing of the scripts had already been completed?
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: skhellter on Apr 16, 2023, 10:26:55 AM
the only way the show comes out at the end of next year is if he'll "make" the show this summer and the guy on twitter misheard. (or maybe noah means he'll do another pass on the scripts)
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 17, 2023, 08:23:48 AM
I imagine that's what he meant. As far as has been reported, it's all written. Unless they're doing revisions.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Gimitko on May 08, 2023, 05:12:28 PM

Hawleys regular cinematographer turned director is currently in Thailand. It was mentioned the series will shoot in Thailand awhile back. Could be doing location scouting.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 08, 2023, 09:54:57 PM
Just a brief update. Latest Production Weekly has the series as shooting in September 2023.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Commander Blitz on May 08, 2023, 10:09:32 PM
Can't wait to see how this series turns out with it being the first alien TV show
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on May 09, 2023, 01:03:55 AM
It looks to be most likely Alien Romulus will premier on Hul u before this Alien TV show.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: ralfy on May 09, 2023, 02:55:01 AM
"Sydney Chandler Set As A Lead In Noah Hawley's 'Alien' At FX" (https://deadline.com/2023/05/alien-fx-series-sydney-chandler-noah-hawley-1235352488/)

Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 09, 2023, 05:16:29 AM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on May 09, 2023, 01:03:55 AMIt looks to be most likely Alien Romulus will premier on Hul u before this Alien TV show.

Yeah, I'm expecting that to be the case as well.


Quote from: Gimitko on May 08, 2023, 05:12:28 PMHawleys regular cinematographer turned director is currently in Thailand. It was mentioned the series will shoot in Thailand awhile back. Could be doing location scouting.


Production Weekly still has Thailand being the location too.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Drukathi on May 09, 2023, 06:22:08 AM
Strong Species vibes.

Also, I still wonder how this plot is combined with a broken ship and the xenomorph in the forest. It seems as if the synopsis and images belong to different projects.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: nanison on May 09, 2023, 12:04:57 PM
So this Wendy is nothing more than a superhero with incredible strength, speed and agility. Boring, I was hoping the influence of superheros would be starting to diminish by now.
It is not going to be about aliens at all, they're just there to add a thread but it is all about those super hybrids probably.
A good aliens show should centre around the thread of the aliens, a survival show.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Rattlehed on May 10, 2023, 07:00:41 AM
What nanison says . Survival / or marines show .
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Veita on May 10, 2023, 07:56:47 AM
Imo this sounds extremely shallow and boring. Again the focus seems (at least until now) to be set on synthetics (or hybrids) instead of Xenomorphs. Hopefully I am wrong and we have to wait how the show will turn out but I am not hyped and I am not entertained by reading that character description.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: nanison on May 10, 2023, 12:29:35 PM
We will see this Wendy beating aliens in hand to hand combat. I can already envision a parkour scene where she is being pursued by aliens as she jumps and runs and climbs her way out of their claws because she has the same agility and speed as the monster :o
First Cameron turned aliens into cannon fodder which was blasphemous but granted it also kicked ass, I love the film.  Now they will be out fought by a human hybrid, it is the next step in destroying an iconic monster.


Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: SiL on May 10, 2023, 12:32:52 PM
@Local Trouble  it's  giving Deadliest of the Species vibes.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Local Trouble on May 10, 2023, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: SiL on May 10, 2023, 12:32:52 PM@Local Trouble  it's  giving Deadliest of the Species vibes.

But I don't understand DotS!
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 10, 2023, 07:24:13 PM
Neither did the author.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Bojo on May 10, 2023, 09:51:16 PM
Getting slight Major from Ghost in the shell vibes.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: DangerStranger on May 11, 2023, 09:46:00 AM
Still clinging to the hope this series gets cancelled somehow together with that romulus thing.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: reecebomb on May 11, 2023, 10:39:47 AM
You know what would make Alien relatable and scary again - having a protagonist that has superhero characteristics.
Though this has been kinda done already with Ripley 8 (and perhaps David) - didn't work. Super strength, speed, and agility combined with the limitless courage of a young mind - f**king hell.

Amazing how clueless the current crop of writers/filmmakers are that have somehow managed to get their hands on Alien franchise. Should have let AI write it at this point. Only reason why I keep checking Alien related news is nothing but morbid curiosity.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: skhellter on May 11, 2023, 11:47:15 AM
Wendy is the co-lead. The other lead is just a random regular human medic.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on May 11, 2023, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: Bojo on May 10, 2023, 09:51:16 PMGetting slight Major from Ghost in the shell vibes.

Hopefully that's roughly what it turns out like.

Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: reecebomb on May 11, 2023, 12:21:48 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 11, 2023, 11:48:45 AMHopefully that's roughly what it turns out like.



Earth is a terrible setting for Alien story to take place but with the same attention to detail and gritty analog feel of GITS 1995 would be incredible and quite fitting for Alien (as is Blade Runner). But let's be real, this will have the same artificial and sterile world that most streaming era sci-fi/fantasy is plagued with.

Come to think of it, GITS 2017 was pretty decent visually. Of course it didn't exactly escape the digital sheen and somehow the anime looked more realistic, it was still decent.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: RIP77 on May 11, 2023, 09:15:17 PM
The context is important.

Focus is important.


Saying that because Wendy is superhuman it will be a superhero/action series is like saying that because in Prometheus  engineers two meters  came out with super strength, muscles the movie would be a superhero movie and not what it was.



This series will have various approaches and genres and Noah has described it as a cold war thriller as well as action, pure horror.

But just because there's a character like Wendy doesn't mean this is one of Alita-type superheroes or martial arts.

Ex-Machina has a female character as well and the movie is not ridiculous action or superheroes but a serious and terrifying thriller.


The character is as he is but the series will be as it will be and we still don't know.


District9 and Transformers have in common but it is radically different.
The Lord of the Rings has in common with The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power but is very different.
Batman and Robin has in common with The Batman but is very different.
Aliens has in common with Alien 4 (there are aliens...) but it is very different.


Yes, in this new Noah series it seems that Wendy is superhuman with super strength but then you have to see the execution, narrative, context In your head you imagine the worst scenario believing that it will be like Transformers  or Residents Evil movies ( Wendy like Alice) with a thousand exaggerated fights but that this element exists, Wendy does not mean that the series is like that in the examples that I gave, the key is the final result, not the premise and even less the premise of your imagination that is put in the worst scenario.

That there is a character like Wendy can be positive if they touch on themes like Blade Runner, Ghost in the shell, Ex-Machine too. More sober, elegant, adult than blockbuster Disney or Marvel.

In Blade Runner 2049 there were replicants with super strength, more budget, more fx than Blade Runner 82 but the movie is not an action movie, it is not a typical blockbusters and the combats are more minimalist and content putting the characters, narrative above the combats .

Before the premiere, it was doubtful ( the people in general )  whether Villeneuve would put in as much action  comercial as he seemed in the trailer with those characters with big force , but in the end it didn't happen, not as people imagined for the worse.


The president of Fx has said that it will be a reinvention, expansion in the Noah style but also pure Alien.

The actress hired on Instagram uploaded a story with those statements.


This series will anger and the movie in theory will be more faithful to the classic formula. Eso lo entiendo y ese es el plan con dos productos Alien tan diferentes el mismo año o cerca. Saga Alien is dead , never was perfect saga. Alien4, Prometheus ( love this movie) ,Covenant, AVP1,2...

Now i  want risk too. No only "remake" Alien of fede with similar style.


That is why in PREY the protagonist was criticized before seeing her and then  liked her character.

prejudices of old fans.

But the angry fan's imagination is overblown with a character like Wendy. In the Alien universe there may be such a character and the how is more important than the what.



My opinion. Comment optimist of course, i accept this.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 09:44:59 PM
On the other hand, our first look at the engineer in Prometheus wasn't it dual wielding katanas, facing off against a hissing Alien.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: reecebomb on May 11, 2023, 11:16:57 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 09:44:59 PMOn the other hand, our first look at the engineer in Prometheus wasn't it dual wielding katanas, facing off against a hissing Alien.

Excuse me, what dual wielding katanas, where?
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 11:35:01 PM
Concept art thread.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: skhellter on May 11, 2023, 11:49:52 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 09:44:59 PMOn the other hand, our first look at the engineer in Prometheus wasn't it dual wielding katanas, facing off against a hissing Alien.

i don't think Hawley knew that this would be our first look at Wendy.. via a leak in a forum.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: reecebomb on May 12, 2023, 12:03:16 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 11:35:01 PMConcept art thread.

Ok, thanks. Learned now also it will take place before Alien or even Prometheus.

Quote from: RIP77 on May 11, 2023, 09:15:17 PMThe context is important.

Focus is important.


Saying that because Wendy is superhuman it will be a superhero/action series is like saying that because in Prometheus  engineers two meters  came out with super strength, muscles the movie would be a superhero movie and not what it was.



This series will have various approaches and genres and Noah has described it as a cold war thriller as well as action, pure horror.

But just because there's a character like Wendy doesn't mean this is one of Alita-type superheroes or martial arts.

Ex-Machina has a female character as well and the movie is not ridiculous action or superheroes but a serious and terrifying thriller.


The character is as he is but the series will be as it will be and we still don't know.


District9 and Transformers have in common but it is radically different.
The Lord of the Rings has in common with The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power but is very different.
Batman and Robin has in common with The Batman but is very different.
Aliens has in common with Alien 4 (there are aliens...) but it is very different.


Yes, in this new Noah series it seems that Wendy is superhuman with super strength but then you have to see the execution, narrative, context In your head you imagine the worst scenario believing that it will be like Transformers  or Residents Evil movies ( Wendy like Alice) with a thousand exaggerated fights but that this element exists, Wendy does not mean that the series is like that in the examples that I gave, the key is the final result, not the premise and even less the premise of your imagination that is put in the worst scenario.

That there is a character like Wendy can be positive if they touch on themes like Blade Runner, Ghost in the shell, Ex-Machine too. More sober, elegant, adult than blockbuster Disney or Marvel.

In Blade Runner 2049 there were replicants with super strength, more budget, more fx than Blade Runner 82 but the movie is not an action movie, it is not a typical blockbusters and the combats are more minimalist and content putting the characters, narrative above the combats .

Before the premiere, it was doubtful ( the people in general )  whether Villeneuve would put in as much action  comercial as he seemed in the trailer with those characters with big force , but in the end it didn't happen, not as people imagined for the worse.


The president of Fx has said that it will be a reinvention, expansion in the Noah style but also pure Alien.

The actress hired on Instagram uploaded a story with those statements.


This series will anger and the movie in theory will be more faithful to the classic formula. Eso lo entiendo y ese es el plan con dos productos Alien tan diferentes el mismo año o cerca. Saga Alien is dead , never was perfect saga. Alien4, Prometheus ( love this movie) ,Covenant, AVP1,2...

Now i  want risk too. No only "remake" Alien of fede with similar style.


That is why in PREY the protagonist was criticized before seeing her and then  liked her character.

prejudices of old fans.

But the angry fan's imagination is overblown with a character like Wendy. In the Alien universe there may be such a character and the how is more important than the what.



My opinion. Comment optimist of course, i accept this.


I respectfully disagree, this will be worse than any Transformers or Transmorphers movie.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 12, 2023, 12:09:51 AM
Quote from: skhellter on May 11, 2023, 11:49:52 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 09:44:59 PMOn the other hand, our first look at the engineer in Prometheus wasn't it dual wielding katanas, facing off against a hissing Alien.

i don't think Hawley knew that this would be our first look at Wendy.. via a leak in a forum.

I can't say that that makes much difference.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: kwisatz on May 12, 2023, 12:49:29 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 11:35:01 PMConcept art thread.

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/248a60ccf3863a9226428a965ab64ed0/tumblr_inline_p6u4n34Hey1roe2gd_400.gif)
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on May 12, 2023, 08:55:15 AM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 11, 2023, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: Bojo on May 10, 2023, 09:51:16 PMGetting slight Major from Ghost in the shell vibes.

Hopefully that's roughly what it turns out like.



Sounds like they are still planning on filming in Thailand according to @Corporal Hicks. Can't imagine tropical beaches with palm trees in an Alien setting but Bangkok has some seriously cyberpunk/GITS looking areas.

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Quote from: skhellter on May 11, 2023, 11:49:52 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 09:44:59 PMOn the other hand, our first look at the engineer in Prometheus wasn't it dual wielding katanas, facing off against a hissing Alien.

i don't think Hawley knew that this would be our first look at Wendy.. via a leak in a forum.

Wasn't that concept art intentionally given to AVP Galaxy?
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 12, 2023, 08:58:09 AM
It was not.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on May 12, 2023, 09:08:08 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 12, 2023, 08:58:09 AMIt was not.

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Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: SiL on May 12, 2023, 09:39:51 AM
Quote from: RIP77 on May 11, 2023, 09:15:17 PMSaying that because Wendy is superhuman it will be a superhero/action series is like saying that because in Prometheus  engineers two meters  came out with super strength, muscles the movie would be a superhero movie and not what it was.
Except the Engineers are villains and bigger, badder bad guys in successive instalments is pretty normal. It's not the same at all.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: Simply_Kevin on May 12, 2023, 12:49:30 PM
I think knowing about the endgame for the main character has ruined any possibility of a slow paced balanced character arc. Everyone who read about it already knows where it leads to and everyone is jumping to conclusions. Chill out, guys! It's a series, not a movie. It has enough time to develop concepts. Conceptual art is not final product. It's not even vetted by the cinematographer! Many things change on set, lines and scenes can be re-written on the spot, then there's editing and soundtrack... And to be fair, giving synthetics more depth isn't something new. It wasn't Prometheus which pioneered that. It was Resurrection with Cal, who was a new type of synthetic made by other synthetics, that took part in a revolution (hello, Blade Runner). I know that movie isn't great, but it has many nice ideas.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: reecebomb on May 12, 2023, 01:52:36 PM
I'm willing to give this series a chance only if it manifestly states that the story doesn't take place in the same universe as Alien, Aliens, Alien 3.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on May 12, 2023, 01:58:12 PM
Quote from: Simply_Kevin on May 12, 2023, 12:49:30 PMIt was Resurrection with Cal, who was a new type of synthetic made by other synthetics,

The new asshole model they were putting out?


Quote from: RIP77 on May 11, 2023, 09:15:17 PMSaying that because Wendy is superhuman it will be a superhero/action series is like saying that because in Prometheus  engineers two meters  came out with super strength, muscles the movie would be a superhero movie and not what it was.

The engineers were supposed to be big because they are supposed to be the space jockeys from the first film.

The engineers were actually widely lambasted on here for being too small compared to the original space jockey.

Their strength also appears to be consistent with their size and therefore realistic.
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: TC on May 12, 2023, 04:12:12 PM
Quote from: reecebomb on May 12, 2023, 01:52:36 PMI'm willing to give this series a chance only if it manifestly states that the story doesn't take place in the same universe as Alien, Aliens, Alien 3.

If some new writer wants to riff on a well-known franchise because they think they have an interesting take on the material (and I have no problem with this), sometimes the respectful thing to do is make it plain that what they have is an alt-universe story, like a (hard) reboot. But the temptation is not to do so because the lore and canon of the original is usually the biggest selling point of any long-standing franchise, and they naturally want to lure in that ready-made audience.

The way I see it, Aliens was the result of Cameron riffing on Alien. It worked because (among other things) sci-fi action-horror is a close match to sci-fi suspense-horror. A big franchise is like a complete genre all on its own, and Aliens didn't jump outside the Alientm genre, whereas Ghost in the Shell-Alien probably does (just like I feel happened with Prometheus). With Aliens some of the tone changed, but the lore and canon remained intact. At least, it did until the Quadrilogy version of Alien showed us the egg-morphing. But by then it was too late, the fans had already given Aliens the nod of approval way back in 1986  :). Plus, Aliens was a good storytelling and that always helps. Maybe the same will apply with Hawley.

TC
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: RIP77 on May 12, 2023, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 12, 2023, 01:58:12 PM
Quote from: Simply_Kevin on May 12, 2023, 12:49:30 PMIt was Resurrection with Cal, who was a new type of synthetic made by other synthetics,

The new asshole model they were putting out?


Quote from: RIP77 on May 11, 2023, 09:15:17 PMSaying that because Wendy is superhuman it will be a superhero/action series is like saying that because in Prometheus  engineers two meters  came out with super strength, muscles the movie would be a superhero movie and not what it was.

The engineers were supposed to be big because they are supposed to be the space jockeys from the first film.

The engineers were actually widely lambasted on here for being too small compared to the original space jockey.

Their strength also appears to be consistent with their size and therefore realistic.




Yes. I don't criticize the engineers.

I'm just saying that they could put more commercial action for being the way they are.And  not have liked in one of Alien something like that

With Wendy they can put action  like to the RE movies for example style Alice or they can be more minimalist and contained even with super strength as with the Engineer.




Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: [cancerblack] on May 12, 2023, 05:56:50 PM
Quote from: RIP77 on May 12, 2023, 05:06:40 PMlike to the RE movies

Is that really where you want this to go?
Title: Re: Noah Hawley's Alien is gearing up for production
Post by: RIP77 on May 12, 2023, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 12, 2023, 05:56:50 PM
Quote from: RIP77 on May 12, 2023, 05:06:40 PMlike to the RE movies

Is that really where you want this to go?



No. On the contrary.


That's why I put the text defending that although Wendy has super strength, she doesn't have to be a RE type but more content and minimalist  like Ex-Machine or  BR2049 that I wouldn't have liked to see big action scenes with replicants because that's not Blade Runner.


I am open to changes in this series but I hope and that is why I say that I am optimistic that there are no exaggerated action scenes as other forum members said based storyboard and desing  Wendy.

That is why he said that the how matters more than the what.

 Which is that Wendy has super strength with katanas. The how is the key for me.  No Want a Wendy/Alice.