https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1613633058971783185
QuoteNoah Hawley's long awaited Alien series will finally begin shooting this year.
"Noah is currently in production on the fifth season of Fargo but he's in active preproduction on Alien, he's written scripts," said FX Boss John Landgraf providing an update at TCA on the long-in-the-works series.
"I think he's meeting with his production designer in Austin this weekend, gearing up for production this year after he completes the fifth season of Fargo."
At last year's virtual TCA winter tour, Landgraf specified that Hawley's Alien, "takes place before Ripley. It's the first story that takes place in the Alien franchise on Earth."
"It takes place on our planet. Right near the end of this century we're in — so 70-odd years from now," added Landgraf then.
"Ripley won't be a part of it or any of the other characters of Alien other than the alien itself," the exec said.
Hawley's Alien series was first announced during the pandemic at the Disney Investor Day in December 2020.
It's about bloody time.
https://collider.com/alien-series-noah-hawley-fx-pre-production/
Similar article that says we will see it in 2023.
The supposed 2023 release was something Landgraf said before production was delayed by a year, im assuming Collider is getting that from there.
Fargo 5 wraps in April, Production Weekly says this series starts filming mid-2023, so the summer.
I'll be surprised if we see anything this year from the show or film. Mayyyybe the first or so episode of the series it at all, but I'm expecting it all to hit in 2024.
The composer of Fargo and Legion confirms, indicating he will be the one scoring it:
https://twitter.com/jeffersonrusso/status/1613639276880867328?s=20&t=ZldAY2ByrITEudUd97FLFA
Its about time we had some ALIEN news.
Not familiar with either of these gentleman but who knows?
Not the ALIEN5 movie i was hoping for but i remain skeptical even though Sir Sir Ridley Scott is involved.
Please no AI crap in the forefront of the script.
And for godamn sake.
No stupid robot creates the ALIEN as the space jokey already made them centuries ago.
Sgt Stevens
NZCM
I hope they keep some of that concept art from last year!
Quote from: Gimitko on Jan 12, 2023, 10:05:18 PMThe composer of Fargo and Legion confirms, indicating he will be the one scoring it:
https://twitter.com/jeffersonrusso/status/1613639276880867328?s=20&t=ZldAY2ByrITEudUd97FLFA
Omg f**k yes
Does he compose the music for all the dance numbers?
Generally, sometimes Noah Hawley even sings.
Jeff Russo > Mark Griskey?
Do you actually care or are you just fishing? I think Mark Griskey hasn't had the chance to stretch like Jeff Russo has, he only started getting royalties recently.
Is it likely well see the Fede Alverez Alien Romulus film on Hulu in mid 2024 and perhaps the Noah Hawley Alien TV series premier on Hulu later that year perhaps, Wonder if they'll be any cross promotion between the two projects? But it's very likely there to be separate and stand alone.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 13, 2023, 05:24:10 AMDo you actually care or are you just fishing? I think Mark Griskey hasn't had the chance to stretch like Jeff Russo has, he only started getting royalties recently.
I always care.
In fact, I think Mark Griskey would be far better suited to score modern Star Wars than the other composers they've been hiring lately.
Scott's Blade Runner show for Amazon starts filming on July 17 and wraps in Spring 2024, if anyone is interested. Production time frame for the Alien show likely to be very similar.
Any source on this? By wrapping in Spring 2024 you mean post-production as well?
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 17, 2023, 09:28:20 PMAny source on this? By wrapping in Spring 2024 you mean post-production as well?
I am referring to filming itself:
https://moviesr.net/p-sci-fi-series-blade-runner-2099-begins-filming-in-summer-2023-at-amazon
It reportedly has 10 episodes and a high budget, the time frame makes sense.
I've never heard of Midgard Times. How legit is this? If I'm not mistaken nobody else (including Irish websites) has reported this news.
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Jan 13, 2023, 05:27:25 AMIs it likely well see the Fede Alverez Alien Romulus film on Hulu in mid 2024 and perhaps the Noah Hawley Alien TV series premier on Hulu later that year perhaps, Wonder if they'll be any cross promotion between the two projects? But it's very likely there to be separate and stand alone.
I think it would be pretty intriguing if they reference each other in one way or another. Maybe not in an overt kind way, but some subtle hints here and there would definitely be give these new additions some extra oomph.
Quote from: Tusky on Jan 12, 2023, 11:43:48 PMIts about time we had some ALIEN news.
Not familiar with either of these gentleman but who knows?
Not the ALIEN5 movie i was hoping for but i remain skeptical even though Sir Sir Ridley Scott is involved.
Please no AI crap in the forefront of the script.
And for godamn sake.
No stupid robot creates the ALIEN as the space jokey already made them centuries ago.
Sgt Stevens
NZCM
100% this!
Will the queen royal jelly as a drug be in the show?
I still stand by the accelerant being the franchise's live action version of the royal jelly - in terms of a story device - so I don't think we'll see the royal jelly.
I wouldn't mind the facehugger injecting the host with a variant of the black goo that combines with the host's DNA, instead of impregnating them with an embryo.
You mean Plagarius Praepotens?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 03, 2023, 06:40:36 AMI still stand by the accelerant being the franchise's live action version of the royal jelly - in terms of a story device - so I don't think we'll see the royal jelly.
Well, any idea if the
live action version of the royal jelly might appear? ;) ;)
As far as I'm aware, no. But that's not a certainty by any stretch.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Feb 03, 2023, 11:12:56 AMYou mean Plagarius Praepotens?
I really do love PP. Loved it reintroducing this concept.
Quote from: Enjoy on Jan 31, 2023, 12:32:50 AMWill the queen royal jelly as a drug be in the show?
I bet with the right dose you can party hard all night! 😅👉👈
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Nothing particularly much or new - https://www.cbr.com/noah-hawley-alien-series-update/
QuoteSpeaking to TVLine, FX chief John Landgraf shared that Hawley has finished the scripts and is in "active preproduction" on Season 1 of his Alien series. "That's gearing up for production this year," Landgraf added. According to the FX boss, Hawley has also met with his production designer and will begin shooting Alien after he completes Fargo Season 5.
Season 1? I thought it was limited series only, unless they just call it season 1 as it's technically first season.
As far as I'm aware, I don't think it's been confirmed one way or the other.
Hawley introduced a showing of Alien in Austin recently. Doesn't sound like he said too much, though.
Quotei remember him saying he'll write the show this summer and that it'll come out at the end of next year. he was interested in replicating the tone of the first movie specifically
https://twitter.com/EsPyramid/status/1647332105502838786
Fargo felt like a natural extension of that first film, hoping it will be the same for Alien.
Yeah, I watched all the seasons and I can't wait for the fifth one 8)
CRT monitors and griping please.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 15, 2023, 08:31:30 PMHawley introduced a showing of Alien in Austin recently. Doesn't sound like he said too much, though.
Quotei remember him saying he'll write the show this summer and that it'll come out at the end of next year. he was interested in replicating the tone of the first movie specifically
https://twitter.com/EsPyramid/status/1647332105502838786
Mmm...But wasn't it mentioned that the writing of the scripts had already been completed?
the only way the show comes out at the end of next year is if he'll "make" the show this summer and the guy on twitter misheard. (or maybe noah means he'll do another pass on the scripts)
I imagine that's what he meant. As far as has been reported, it's all written. Unless they're doing revisions.
Hawleys regular cinematographer turned director is currently in Thailand. It was mentioned the series will shoot in Thailand awhile back. Could be doing location scouting.
Just a brief update. Latest Production Weekly has the series as shooting in September 2023.
Can't wait to see how this series turns out with it being the first alien TV show
It looks to be most likely Alien Romulus will premier on Hul u before this Alien TV show.
"Sydney Chandler Set As A Lead In Noah Hawley's 'Alien' At FX" (https://deadline.com/2023/05/alien-fx-series-sydney-chandler-noah-hawley-1235352488/)
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on May 09, 2023, 01:03:55 AMIt looks to be most likely Alien Romulus will premier on Hul u before this Alien TV show.
Yeah, I'm expecting that to be the case as well.
Quote from: Gimitko on May 08, 2023, 05:12:28 PMHawleys regular cinematographer turned director is currently in Thailand. It was mentioned the series will shoot in Thailand awhile back. Could be doing location scouting.
Production Weekly still has Thailand being the location too.
Strong Species vibes.
Also, I still wonder how this plot is combined with a broken ship and the xenomorph in the forest. It seems as if the synopsis and images belong to different projects.
So this Wendy is nothing more than a superhero with incredible strength, speed and agility. Boring, I was hoping the influence of superheros would be starting to diminish by now.
It is not going to be about aliens at all, they're just there to add a thread but it is all about those super hybrids probably.
A good aliens show should centre around the thread of the aliens, a survival show.
What nanison says . Survival / or marines show .
Imo this sounds extremely shallow and boring. Again the focus seems (at least until now) to be set on synthetics (or hybrids) instead of Xenomorphs. Hopefully I am wrong and we have to wait how the show will turn out but I am not hyped and I am not entertained by reading that character description.
We will see this Wendy beating aliens in hand to hand combat. I can already envision a parkour scene where she is being pursued by aliens as she jumps and runs and climbs her way out of their claws because she has the same agility and speed as the monster :o
First Cameron turned aliens into cannon fodder which was blasphemous but granted it also kicked ass, I love the film. Now they will be out fought by a human hybrid, it is the next step in destroying an iconic monster.
@Local Trouble it's giving
Deadliest of the Species vibes.
Quote from: SiL on May 10, 2023, 12:32:52 PM@Local Trouble it's giving Deadliest of the Species vibes.
But I don't understand DotS!
Neither did the author.
Getting slight Major from Ghost in the shell vibes.
Still clinging to the hope this series gets cancelled somehow together with that romulus thing.
You know what would make Alien relatable and scary again - having a protagonist that has superhero characteristics.
Though this has been kinda done already with Ripley 8 (and perhaps David) - didn't work. Super strength, speed, and agility combined with the limitless courage of a young mind - f**king hell.
Amazing how clueless the current crop of writers/filmmakers are that have somehow managed to get their hands on Alien franchise. Should have let AI write it at this point. Only reason why I keep checking Alien related news is nothing but morbid curiosity.
Wendy is the co-lead. The other lead is just a random regular human medic.
Quote from: Bojo on May 10, 2023, 09:51:16 PMGetting slight Major from Ghost in the shell vibes.
Hopefully that's roughly what it turns out like.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 11, 2023, 11:48:45 AMHopefully that's roughly what it turns out like.
Earth is a terrible setting for Alien story to take place but with the same attention to detail and gritty analog feel of GITS 1995 would be incredible and quite fitting for Alien (as is Blade Runner). But let's be real, this will have the same artificial and sterile world that most streaming era sci-fi/fantasy is plagued with.
Come to think of it, GITS 2017 was pretty decent visually. Of course it didn't exactly escape the digital sheen and somehow the anime looked more realistic, it was still decent.
The context is important.
Focus is important.
Saying that because Wendy is superhuman it will be a superhero/action series is like saying that because in Prometheus engineers two meters came out with super strength, muscles the movie would be a superhero movie and not what it was.
This series will have various approaches and genres and Noah has described it as a cold war thriller as well as action, pure horror.
But just because there's a character like Wendy doesn't mean this is one of Alita-type superheroes or martial arts.
Ex-Machina has a female character as well and the movie is not ridiculous action or superheroes but a serious and terrifying thriller.
The character is as he is but the series will be as it will be and we still don't know.
District9 and Transformers have in common but it is radically different.
The Lord of the Rings has in common with The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power but is very different.
Batman and Robin has in common with The Batman but is very different.
Aliens has in common with Alien 4 (there are aliens...) but it is very different.
Yes, in this new Noah series it seems that Wendy is superhuman with super strength but then you have to see the execution, narrative, context In your head you imagine the worst scenario believing that it will be like Transformers or Residents Evil movies ( Wendy like Alice) with a thousand exaggerated fights but that this element exists, Wendy does not mean that the series is like that in the examples that I gave, the key is the final result, not the premise and even less the premise of your imagination that is put in the worst scenario.
That there is a character like Wendy can be positive if they touch on themes like Blade Runner, Ghost in the shell, Ex-Machine too. More sober, elegant, adult than blockbuster Disney or Marvel.
In Blade Runner 2049 there were replicants with super strength, more budget, more fx than Blade Runner 82 but the movie is not an action movie, it is not a typical blockbusters and the combats are more minimalist and content putting the characters, narrative above the combats .
Before the premiere, it was doubtful ( the people in general ) whether Villeneuve would put in as much action comercial as he seemed in the trailer with those characters with big force , but in the end it didn't happen, not as people imagined for the worse.
The president of Fx has said that it will be a reinvention, expansion in the Noah style but also pure Alien.
The actress hired on Instagram uploaded a story with those statements.
This series will anger and the movie in theory will be more faithful to the classic formula. Eso lo entiendo y ese es el plan con dos productos Alien tan diferentes el mismo año o cerca. Saga Alien is dead , never was perfect saga. Alien4, Prometheus ( love this movie) ,Covenant, AVP1,2...
Now i want risk too. No only "remake" Alien of fede with similar style.
That is why in PREY the protagonist was criticized before seeing her and then liked her character.
prejudices of old fans.
But the angry fan's imagination is overblown with a character like Wendy. In the Alien universe there may be such a character and the how is more important than the what.
My opinion. Comment optimist of course, i accept this.
On the other hand, our first look at the engineer in Prometheus wasn't it dual wielding katanas, facing off against a hissing Alien.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 09:44:59 PMOn the other hand, our first look at the engineer in Prometheus wasn't it dual wielding katanas, facing off against a hissing Alien.
Excuse me, what dual wielding katanas, where?
Concept art thread.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 09:44:59 PMOn the other hand, our first look at the engineer in Prometheus wasn't it dual wielding katanas, facing off against a hissing Alien.
i don't think Hawley knew that this would be our first look at Wendy.. via a leak in a forum.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 11:35:01 PMConcept art thread.
Ok, thanks. Learned now also it will take place before Alien or even Prometheus.
Quote from: RIP77 on May 11, 2023, 09:15:17 PMThe context is important.
Focus is important.
Saying that because Wendy is superhuman it will be a superhero/action series is like saying that because in Prometheus engineers two meters came out with super strength, muscles the movie would be a superhero movie and not what it was.
This series will have various approaches and genres and Noah has described it as a cold war thriller as well as action, pure horror.
But just because there's a character like Wendy doesn't mean this is one of Alita-type superheroes or martial arts.
Ex-Machina has a female character as well and the movie is not ridiculous action or superheroes but a serious and terrifying thriller.
The character is as he is but the series will be as it will be and we still don't know.
District9 and Transformers have in common but it is radically different.
The Lord of the Rings has in common with The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power but is very different.
Batman and Robin has in common with The Batman but is very different.
Aliens has in common with Alien 4 (there are aliens...) but it is very different.
Yes, in this new Noah series it seems that Wendy is superhuman with super strength but then you have to see the execution, narrative, context In your head you imagine the worst scenario believing that it will be like Transformers or Residents Evil movies ( Wendy like Alice) with a thousand exaggerated fights but that this element exists, Wendy does not mean that the series is like that in the examples that I gave, the key is the final result, not the premise and even less the premise of your imagination that is put in the worst scenario.
That there is a character like Wendy can be positive if they touch on themes like Blade Runner, Ghost in the shell, Ex-Machine too. More sober, elegant, adult than blockbuster Disney or Marvel.
In Blade Runner 2049 there were replicants with super strength, more budget, more fx than Blade Runner 82 but the movie is not an action movie, it is not a typical blockbusters and the combats are more minimalist and content putting the characters, narrative above the combats .
Before the premiere, it was doubtful ( the people in general ) whether Villeneuve would put in as much action comercial as he seemed in the trailer with those characters with big force , but in the end it didn't happen, not as people imagined for the worse.
The president of Fx has said that it will be a reinvention, expansion in the Noah style but also pure Alien.
The actress hired on Instagram uploaded a story with those statements.
This series will anger and the movie in theory will be more faithful to the classic formula. Eso lo entiendo y ese es el plan con dos productos Alien tan diferentes el mismo año o cerca. Saga Alien is dead , never was perfect saga. Alien4, Prometheus ( love this movie) ,Covenant, AVP1,2...
Now i want risk too. No only "remake" Alien of fede with similar style.
That is why in PREY the protagonist was criticized before seeing her and then liked her character.
prejudices of old fans.
But the angry fan's imagination is overblown with a character like Wendy. In the Alien universe there may be such a character and the how is more important than the what.
My opinion. Comment optimist of course, i accept this.
I respectfully disagree, this will be worse than any Transformers or Transmorphers movie.
Quote from: skhellter on May 11, 2023, 11:49:52 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 09:44:59 PMOn the other hand, our first look at the engineer in Prometheus wasn't it dual wielding katanas, facing off against a hissing Alien.
i don't think Hawley knew that this would be our first look at Wendy.. via a leak in a forum.
I can't say that that makes much difference.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 11:35:01 PMConcept art thread.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/248a60ccf3863a9226428a965ab64ed0/tumblr_inline_p6u4n34Hey1roe2gd_400.gif)
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on May 11, 2023, 11:48:45 AMQuote from: Bojo on May 10, 2023, 09:51:16 PMGetting slight Major from Ghost in the shell vibes.
Hopefully that's roughly what it turns out like.
Sounds like they are still planning on filming in Thailand according to
@Corporal Hicks. Can't imagine tropical beaches with palm trees in an Alien setting but Bangkok has some seriously cyberpunk/GITS looking areas.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDzLMW6VQAIs1eL?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDzLJs_VUAATSxp?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAbFapJVQAEEOjq?format=jpg&name=large)
Quote from: skhellter on May 11, 2023, 11:49:52 PMQuote from: [cancerblack] on May 11, 2023, 09:44:59 PMOn the other hand, our first look at the engineer in Prometheus wasn't it dual wielding katanas, facing off against a hissing Alien.
i don't think Hawley knew that this would be our first look at Wendy.. via a leak in a forum.
Wasn't that concept art intentionally given to AVP Galaxy?
It was not.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 12, 2023, 08:58:09 AMIt was not.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTExLiIZQrcrfihE_tMi50tFMIEfJE05Llo9A&usqp=CAU)
Quote from: RIP77 on May 11, 2023, 09:15:17 PMSaying that because Wendy is superhuman it will be a superhero/action series is like saying that because in Prometheus engineers two meters came out with super strength, muscles the movie would be a superhero movie and not what it was.
Except the Engineers are villains and bigger, badder bad guys in successive instalments is pretty normal. It's not the same at all.
I think knowing about the endgame for the main character has ruined any possibility of a slow paced balanced character arc. Everyone who read about it already knows where it leads to and everyone is jumping to conclusions. Chill out, guys! It's a series, not a movie. It has enough time to develop concepts. Conceptual art is not final product. It's not even vetted by the cinematographer! Many things change on set, lines and scenes can be re-written on the spot, then there's editing and soundtrack... And to be fair, giving synthetics more depth isn't something new. It wasn't Prometheus which pioneered that. It was Resurrection with Cal, who was a new type of synthetic made by other synthetics, that took part in a revolution (hello, Blade Runner). I know that movie isn't great, but it has many nice ideas.
I'm willing to give this series a chance only if it manifestly states that the story doesn't take place in the same universe as Alien, Aliens, Alien 3.
Quote from: Simply_Kevin on May 12, 2023, 12:49:30 PMIt was Resurrection with Cal, who was a new type of synthetic made by other synthetics,
The new asshole model they were putting out?
Quote from: RIP77 on May 11, 2023, 09:15:17 PMSaying that because Wendy is superhuman it will be a superhero/action series is like saying that because in Prometheus engineers two meters came out with super strength, muscles the movie would be a superhero movie and not what it was.
The engineers were supposed to be big because they are supposed to be the space jockeys from the first film.
The engineers were actually widely lambasted on here for being too small compared to the original space jockey.
Their strength also appears to be consistent with their size and therefore realistic.
Quote from: reecebomb on May 12, 2023, 01:52:36 PMI'm willing to give this series a chance only if it manifestly states that the story doesn't take place in the same universe as Alien, Aliens, Alien 3.
If some new writer wants to riff on a well-known franchise because they think they have an interesting take on the material (and I have no problem with this), sometimes the respectful thing to do is make it plain that what they have is an alt-universe story, like a (hard) reboot. But the temptation is not to do so because the lore and canon of the original is usually the biggest selling point of any long-standing franchise, and they naturally want to lure in that ready-made audience.
The way I see it,
Aliens was the result of Cameron riffing on
Alien. It worked because (among other things) sci-fi action-horror is a close match to sci-fi suspense-horror. A big franchise is like a complete genre all on its own, and
Aliens didn't jump outside the Alien
tm genre, whereas
Ghost in the Shell-Alien probably does (just like I feel happened with
Prometheus). With
Aliens some of the tone changed, but the lore and canon remained intact. At least, it did until the Quadrilogy version of
Alien showed us the egg-morphing. But by then it was too late, the fans had already given
Aliens the nod of approval way back in 1986 :). Plus,
Aliens was a good storytelling and that always helps. Maybe the same will apply with Hawley.
TC
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 12, 2023, 01:58:12 PMQuote from: Simply_Kevin on May 12, 2023, 12:49:30 PMIt was Resurrection with Cal, who was a new type of synthetic made by other synthetics,
The new asshole model they were putting out?
Quote from: RIP77 on May 11, 2023, 09:15:17 PMSaying that because Wendy is superhuman it will be a superhero/action series is like saying that because in Prometheus engineers two meters came out with super strength, muscles the movie would be a superhero movie and not what it was.
The engineers were supposed to be big because they are supposed to be the space jockeys from the first film.
The engineers were actually widely lambasted on here for being too small compared to the original space jockey.
Their strength also appears to be consistent with their size and therefore realistic.
Yes. I don't criticize the engineers.
I'm just saying that they could put more commercial action for being the way they are.And not have liked in one of Alien something like that
With Wendy they can put action like to the RE movies for example style Alice or they can be more minimalist and contained even with super strength as with the Engineer.
Quote from: RIP77 on May 12, 2023, 05:06:40 PMlike to the RE movies
Is that really where you want this to go?
Quote from: [cancerblack] on May 12, 2023, 05:56:50 PMQuote from: RIP77 on May 12, 2023, 05:06:40 PMlike to the RE movies
Is that really where you want this to go?
No. On the contrary.
That's why I put the text defending that although Wendy has super strength, she doesn't have to be a RE type but more content and minimalist like Ex-Machine or BR2049 that I wouldn't have liked to see big action scenes with replicants because that's not Blade Runner.
I am open to changes in this series but I hope and that is why I say that I am optimistic that there are no exaggerated action scenes as other forum members said based storyboard and desing Wendy.
That is why he said that the how matters more than the what.
Which is that Wendy has super strength with katanas. The how is the key for me. No Want a Wendy/Alice.