http://www.gameskinny.com/txay1/first-images-of-alien-isolation-leaked-possible-trailer-during-vgx (http://www.gameskinny.com/txay1/first-images-of-alien-isolation-leaked-possible-trailer-during-vgx)
Quote from: Nightlord on Dec 07, 2013, 08:57:47 PM
http://www.gameskinny.com/txay1/first-images-of-alien-isolation-leaked-possible-trailer-during-vgx (http://www.gameskinny.com/txay1/first-images-of-alien-isolation-leaked-possible-trailer-during-vgx)
:o
QuoteThe game is supposed to be a first person shooter that draws on elements from Dishonored and Bioshock.
??? :-\
I've never heard that mentioned anywhere, sounds like something they just made up.
Yeah, I have no f**king clue where they got that from.
"This could mean Isolation is near completion already "
Well that is certainty interesting. hopefull we can get some more info in the next few days
f**k it.
Quote from: Nazrel on Dec 07, 2013, 10:12:07 PM
"This could mean Isolation is near completion already "
Well that is certainty interesting. hopefull we can get some more info in the next few days
Or today during VGX.
We are all probably going to laugh at it.
Higher res:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba5QO6ZCIAA5YxK.jpg:large)
Two promo pics look pretty cool. I like the idea of using the "A L I E N" label instead of Aliens.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 07, 2013, 10:24:25 PM
Higher res:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba5QO6ZCIAA5YxK.jpg:large)
That looks really good actually.
I think there's someone in a suit on the right, it's giving me a Dead Space 3 vibe.
Look, there's an Alien in this image:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg593%2F11%2Fwthq.jpg&hash=20921b5c85649e0e9c6b2b79a29259d2e97f9c16)
I never knew about this game until now.
space games have so much potential, not to mention space horrors....nothing since since....
Quote from: aliens13 on Dec 07, 2013, 10:54:36 PM
Look, there's an Alien in this image:
http://imageshack.us/a/img593/11/wthq.jpg
she looks like...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fia.media-imdb.com%2Fimages%2FM%2FMV5BMjIyMzE1NzYxNV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMTA1OTY2MDE%40._V1__SX640_SY720_.jpg&hash=8f8bd0efb2d96cc2612ca2c539ab3e5c8a702212)
would be cool if real actors would have been animated into the game :) and it would have a kind of a serious story telling
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 07, 2013, 10:24:25 PM
Higher res:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba5QO6ZCIAA5YxK.jpg:large)
This is giving me serious Dead Space vibes, in all the right ways.
Hopefully its at least creepy, knowing that all we're gonna be fighting is soldiers and clones.
Wait, is this the same one that has Ripley's daughter fighting hordes of soldiers and clones?
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 08, 2013, 01:50:38 AM
Wait, is this the same one that has Ripley's daughter fighting hordes of soldiers and clones?
yep
I missed the first hour of the vga's but i saw nothing on the game. maybe i missed something?
Quote from: Nazrel on Dec 08, 2013, 02:24:57 AM
I missed the first hour of the vga's but i saw nothing on the game. maybe i missed something?
Nope.
Is the person that posted this reliable for any information like this? or are we just getting our legs pulled?
The second image kinda looks like the cargo hauler, or whatever you want to call it, that the nostromo attaches too
WOW. I love the idea of an ALIEN game as opposed to an ALIENS one (even though I love those).
That second image is glorious 8)
I hope it's good.
That image gives off such a great, Dead Space vibe (also loving the green tint) that it's a shame the premise sounds so stupid.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 07, 2013, 10:24:25 PM
Higher res:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba5QO6ZCIAA5YxK.jpg:large)
Game still sounds completely stupid, but I like that a lot.
http://youtu.be/BGL1qpUR9Jo?t=2m53s (http://youtu.be/BGL1qpUR9Jo?t=2m53s)
Oh I love the good old green tune like the A1.
Oh great, another train wreak in the making.
I really like both images, but that first one of (presumably) Amanda really pops, for me. It suggests they're really concentrating on character and tension, as opposed to just the plain ol' pew pew.
I'll just have to imagine the character's name is 'Margie Berkowitz' or something while I play it. :P
Just got unofficial confirmation from someone at CA that these were made by them indeed.
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 08, 2013, 06:01:40 PM
Just got unofficial confirmation from someone at CA that these were made by them indeed.
Whaaaaa
After all of Gearbox's utter fumbling of canon, I'm quite happy to have a game that can't even HOPE to fit! So Amanda Ripley met the Aliens eh, chaps? Of COURSE she did. (Rubs chin)
As long as its a good game, I'll take any old rubbish in the story department at this juncture. Oh, and the film wasn't up to much, but I though Mary Winstead did a great Sigourney Weaver in The Thing, so if you wanna get her on board, that'd be just dandy.
The second image is of the Nostromo refinery.
That's pretty f'king cool.
Quote from: Xenoscream on Dec 08, 2013, 08:24:44 PM
The second image is of the Nostromo refinery.
That's pretty f'king cool.
I'm on the fence about that. How could
anything survive that explosion mostly intact?
Although as
robbriton says, as long as the game is good, it's not very important. It's not like this is Alien 5, or something...
Nope, definitely NOT the Nostromo refinery. Even Googling up the model for 10 seconds would be enough to tell that they're both different looking.
Apart from the dome on the underside, it looks nothing like the refinery.
"Reminiscent of, but not the same thing as" works for me. Gives me hope that they're going to nail the visual aesthetics at the very least.
I know this is still around 20 years after ALIEN, but I hope we get to see more of the Egyptian W/Y motif, and lots of winged sun logos. 8)
Quote from: SM on Dec 09, 2013, 12:24:48 AM
Apart from the dome on the underside, it looks nothing like the refinery.
Hell, that could be a moon for all we know.
If the game is good let it be Ripley's cousin's sister-in-law's god niece for all I care.
Promo art looks good, but then again some of A:CM's promo art looked good too.
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Dec 08, 2013, 04:15:00 PM
I really like both images, but that first one of (presumably) Amanda really pops, for me. It suggests they're really concentrating on character and tension, as opposed to just the plain ol' pew pew.
I'm afraid all it demonstrates is that the art department were told to evoke Ripley for promotional reasons.
I'd even go so far as to suspect the visual reference given was of when Ripley is slowly turning around, in fear, in the escape shuttle.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 09, 2013, 12:28:03 AM
I know this is still around 20 years after ALIEN, but I hope we get to see more of the Egyptian W/Y motif, and lots of winged sun logos. 8)
Quote from: SM on Dec 09, 2013, 12:24:48 AM
Apart from the dome on the underside, it looks nothing like the refinery.
Hell, that could be a moon for all we know.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F03%2Fstar-wars-637.png%3Fw%3D590&hash=12233ef4bdbb49bb54d210ad50b36e57b3cd5c51)
A moon, you say?
unfortunately the green reminds me of resurrection
yes, they should used brown color :)
http://www.platypuscomix.net/hollywood/ridleyvsjerry1.jpg (http://www.platypuscomix.net/hollywood/ridleyvsjerry1.jpg)
Honestly Alien probably has the most neutral color palettes out of all the films (while Aliens can obviously be associated with blue, Alien 3 with yellow/brown). The green's often associated with its promo material and even the iconic poster so that why it works for most here. Safe to say the game won't look have that tint.
Quote from: robbritton on Dec 08, 2013, 08:07:33 PM
As long as its a good game, I'll take any old rubbish in the story department at this juncture. Oh, and the film wasn't up to much, but I though Mary Winstead did a great Sigourney Weaver in The Thing, so if you wanna get her on board, that'd be just dandy.
Thanks! I've been wondering who that woman in the picture looks like, she looks a lot like Winstead.
Nice art but that doesn't mean much, the premise still sounds awful. :(
Nice art indeed. The premise might suck, but i can swallow it as a fanfiction. The game itself better be good or heads will roll.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 09, 2013, 02:55:12 AM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Dec 08, 2013, 04:15:00 PM
I really like both images, but that first one of (presumably) Amanda really pops, for me. It suggests they're really concentrating on character and tension, as opposed to just the plain ol' pew pew.
I'm afraid all it demonstrates is that the art department were told to evoke Ripley for promotional reasons.
I'd even go so far as to suspect the visual reference given was of when Ripley is slowly turning around, in fear, in the escape shuttle.
Very true, but they could have just as easily evoked an image of Ripley charging around with a flamethrower, which would have suggested a different mood and focus.
They should give up on making this game and turn it into a movie instead and cast Jenna Coleman as Amanda.
These images peaked my interest, but the whole fighting clones and soldiers thing, that part of where ACM went sour for me. I can settle for a single or a very few Xenos if it's done right, but since this games is a FPS I'm thinking the balance of humans and aliens will be highly way off balance.
Is this supposed to be an action or a survival horror game? I've never played a first person survival horror and thought it was scary.
I do like the look of that ship, really makes me think they're taking their ques off of the first film. Also, I think Amanda's face is perfect, plenty of Ripley there, can't wait to see the full character. The Alien reflecting in the visor though, I can count four fingers, didn't Kane's son have 6 (maybe just the way the hands are being held)? Not asking for a clone of the Giger alien, I'm actually hoping they don't do that, but I'd love to see plenty of the original alien design in this one. I'm also hoping it moves the way the first one did, slow and stalking, that whole rapist vibe they had in the first film.
Don't know if anyone else saw it, but that dome on the ship/space station looks damaged, maybe that's where the debris is coming from. From what little detail of the space suit I can see in that picture, It looks like the suits Kane, Lambert, and Dallas wore.
I noticed the wreckage yesterday but only just noticed the space suit.
I wonder if this'll be released on Xbox360/PS3 or XboxOne/PS4...?
Quote from: thewoozy on Dec 09, 2013, 11:11:45 PM
I wonder if this'll be released on Xbox360/PS3 or XboxOne/PS4...?
Next gen only most likely.
As someone not very well versed in gaming, is that how it usually works? How quickly do studios stop making games for the PS3 or X-box 360?
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 09, 2013, 11:24:31 PM
As someone not very well versed in gaming, is that how it usually works? How quickly do studios stop making games for the PS3 or X-box 360?
This is just a guess, but I'd say that the old gen will get a good supply of games for at least two more years, and then there will be a sudden drop off.
Quote from: Cal427eb on Dec 09, 2013, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 09, 2013, 11:24:31 PM
As someone not very well versed in gaming, is that how it usually works? How quickly do studios stop making games for the PS3 or X-box 360?
This is just a guess, but I'd say that the old gen will get a good supply of games for at least two more years, and then there will be a sudden drop off.
I read that it was being made for next gen consoles, and pc but they may make it for current gen. but i see that as highly unlikely
And where did you read that?
Quote from: Nazrel on Dec 10, 2013, 01:01:25 AM
Quote from: Cal427eb on Dec 09, 2013, 11:27:02 PM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 09, 2013, 11:24:31 PM
As someone not very well versed in gaming, is that how it usually works? How quickly do studios stop making games for the PS3 or X-box 360?
This is just a guess, but I'd say that the old gen will get a good supply of games for at least two more years, and then there will be a sudden drop off.
I read that it was being made for next gen consoles, and pc but they may make it for current gen. but i see that as highly unlikely
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Dec 10, 2013, 01:05:36 AM
And where did you read that?
Mentioned here at the very bottom. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/22/ripley-rumours-creative-assemblys-alien-isolation/ (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/22/ripley-rumours-creative-assemblys-alien-isolation/)
If it is true I won't be that happy, but I think that info might be outdated. At least it sounds like the re hauled the game since then and if it's a FPS why wouldn't they put it on PC?
I remember being told back in 2011 by someone at CA that there were things (in regards to lighting, shadowing, etc...) that other studios assumed the current gen of consoles cannot do that they were doing.
In short, they were putting a lot of effort into pushing the boundaries of current gen back then. Perhaps it will be a cross-gen title but there's nothing solid atm.
Don't know about how much more PS3 content there will be, but the 360 is supposedly going to have between 100-200 new titles (I'm sure most of these will not be AAA, since that would be bad for business). Considering what happened with ACM, i'm assuming Isolation will be on the newest generation, because it's a chance to separate itself from ACM. Due to the failure with ACM in technical aspects (Shadows, textures, ect), I'd imagine CA would want to nail this one down right, Fox or Sega will be looking over their shoulders so they won't take the kind of loses they did over ACM.
So I'm not concerned about the technical stuff, Alien being a big franchise I doubt they'll allow two terrible games in a row. I'm more concerned about the story aspect. It's called Alien, but we're being told there's more Clones and Soldiers to fight than actual aliens present in the game. I think this is a huge part of ACM's downfall, humans were everywhere.
Also still freaking about the FPS part of it. Like I said before, I've never played or have seen an FPS than was actually scary. I was hoping for more of a tomb raider, 3rd person kind of thing. Not just because the aesthetics were good, but the brutality that the protagonist went through was demonstrated on character (injuries, bandages, torn clothes) , and I've kind of hoped since that Alien would lean in that direction. I read somewhere that this was going to be puzzle centric, made me think about the early resident evil series, and that sounds great to me.
Quote from: reecebomb on Dec 09, 2013, 03:18:20 PM
Nice art indeed. The premise might suck, but i can swallow it as a fanfiction. The game itself better be good or heads will roll.
I dunno about that. Colonial Marines was pretty much a worst case scenario come true and no heads rolled with that one. I think the only way Isolation could garner a worse public response is if physical copies came irradiated with plutonium and literally gave consumers cancer.
You can see a tiny Amanda flying through space to the right in the picture. Gravity anyone? Maybe it's Sandra Bullock.
Quote from: TheTrekman on Dec 09, 2013, 07:15:20 PM
They should give up on making this game and turn it into a movie instead and cast Jenna Coleman as Amanda.
Why? ???
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 10, 2013, 06:47:08 AM
I dunno about that. Colonial Marines was pretty much a worst case scenario come true and no heads rolled with that one. I think the only way Isolation could garner a worse public response is if physical copies came irradiated with plutonium and literally gave consumers cancer.
Yeah, anyone who thinks the industry will somehow punish a company for putting out a shitty '
Alien'-related game, hasn't been paying attention for the last... Well... Few decades. :)
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 10, 2013, 11:02:19 PM
Quote from: TheTrekman on Dec 09, 2013, 07:15:20 PM
They should give up on making this game and turn it into a movie instead and cast Jenna Coleman as Amanda.
Why? ???
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 10, 2013, 06:47:08 AM
I dunno about that. Colonial Marines was pretty much a worst case scenario come true and no heads rolled with that one. I think the only way Isolation could garner a worse public response is if physical copies came irradiated with plutonium and literally gave consumers cancer.
Yeah, anyone who thinks the industry will somehow punish a company for putting out a shitty 'Alien'-related game, hasn't been paying attention for the last... Well... Few decades. :)
To be fair, Colonial Marines is the "worst" Aliens/AvP game that the media has really latched onto. AvP2010 wasn't for everybody, but the worst that reviewers had to say about it was "mediocre at best", and I think that's doing it a disservice. AvP Evolution is a hoot, Aliens Infestation is great and was received pretty well, AvP2 is a classic (its expansion, somewhat less so), AvP Extinction got decent reviews and was at least creative even if it was crippled by some poor design choices (no multiplayer, no skirmish mode), and AvP2000 got good reviews.
i wish we would get an alien game like outlast or amnesia especially amnesia with the single creature aspect
The wrecked station in the bigger picture looks an awful lot like "gateway" station from aliens. The station has four parts with domes underneath and the one in the picture upon expection does indeed look like the "gateway" station or a station build just like it.......!!!
I wonder if they're going to somehow say WY covered up what really happened to Ripley's daughter.
Quote from: newbeing on Dec 11, 2013, 08:04:12 PM
I wonder if they're going to somehow say WY covered up what really happened to Ripley's daughter.
I dont think they have to. This could be taking place while ripley is in cryosleep after alien but before the events of aliens....... were talking 57 years here plenty of time for more alien stuff to be going on.......
Quote from: AVP1974 on Dec 11, 2013, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: newbeing on Dec 11, 2013, 08:04:12 PM
I wonder if they're going to somehow say WY covered up what really happened to Ripley's daughter.
I dont think they have to. This could be taking place while ripley is in cryosleep after alien but before the events of aliens....... were talking 57 years here plenty of time for more alien stuff to be going on.......
That's about the only time it could happen. Amanda was pre-teen at the time of Alien, and dead by the time Aliens happened. Can't remember the exact age of death. I wonder if Amanda's crossing with the xeno is an accident or something to company set up.
Quote from: AVP1974 on Dec 11, 2013, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: newbeing on Dec 11, 2013, 08:04:12 PM
I wonder if they're going to somehow say WY covered up what really happened to Ripley's daughter.
I dont think they have to. This could be taking place while ripley is in cryosleep after alien but before the events of aliens....... were talking 57 years here plenty of time for more alien stuff to be going on.......
Well rather I mean will it seem that Burke's explanation of what happened to Ripley's daughter (living a long eventless life) was a cover story.
QuoteYou, as Amanda, spend most if not all of the game on a single space station, according to our source. There's only one alien for "most" of the game, our source said; you'll mostly be shooting through "clones and soldiers." Vents, lockers, and melee weapons are a big part of Isolation, our source said, and the game is heavily inspired by the first Alien movie.
Keep in mind much of this information is from six months ago; details may have changed over the course of development, as they sometimes do. However, our source re-confirmed many of these details today.
Okay, okay....so it'll equal
Dishonored plus a bit of
Outlast. Sounds awfully I-don't-much-care-for-this to me. But I didn't much care for the Riddick game even though I thought it was well done technically.
Quote...much of this information is from six months ago....re-confirmed many of these details today...
Well, they didn't say
which details did they? So that might mean that....Bah, there's no reason for me to be optimistic when it'll probably be shit.
I am digging the artwork on the other hand. Not that I didn't dig the Colonial Marines concept art...
It'll probably be just a shite as ACM, but hey, what the hell. I'll bite.
I hope for it to be full of Dead Space "jumps" and the unrelenting suspense of Carpenter's The THING.
I wrote about this in the other thread, so I won't repeat all that here, but basically I'm not sure the company was very aware of the xenomorphs prior to Ripley telling her story during the first part of the second film. The Nostromo was destroyed, so there wasn't any evidence of it ever existing. And if the company knew about the xenomorph prior to the second film, why in the world would they risk sending a bunch of space truckers? Why not get a specialized team and go check it out. Something doesn't sound right in the cannon.
If you consider Prometheus cannon, and somehow the company was eventually made aware of the Direlect before the Nostromo was even involved, it's only more reason to actually send professionals, instead of sending space truckers who might be more incline to find a way to destroy the craft, xenomorph, so on and so on. It's a huge risk on the companies part.
Something doesn't sit right.
I agree. Very much.
I would love this to be a dead space type game with optional co-op and multiplayer for next gen consoles.
I want to see them get a single player game right before they even attempt to tackle multiplayer.
Quote from: newbeing on Dec 12, 2013, 05:10:37 PM
I want to see them get a single player game right before they even attempt to tackle multiplayer.
I just want a really good scary singleplayer game........ There is more then enough Multiplayer games out there to satisfy anyones needs....... Let those of us who still care about singleplayer games get something special this time....... They can add Multiplayer later if its really nessecary.......
Well, the artwork has my hopes up. I really hope that this ends up being similar to Aliens Vs. Predator for the Atari Jaguar. I loved that game. I played the crap out of that game. Wonderful environments and sounds.
Here's to hope.
Quote from: UDA on Dec 12, 2013, 06:38:25 AM
I wrote about this in the other thread, so I won't repeat all that here, but basically I'm not sure the company was very aware of the xenomorphs prior to Ripley telling her story during the first part of the second film. The Nostromo was destroyed, so there wasn't any evidence of it ever existing. And if the company knew about the xenomorph prior to the second film, why in the world would they risk sending a bunch of space truckers? Why not get a specialized team and go check it out. Something doesn't sound right in the cannon.
If you consider Prometheus cannon, and somehow the company was eventually made aware of the Direlect before the Nostromo was even involved, it's only more reason to actually send professionals, instead of sending space truckers who might be more incline to find a way to destroy the craft, xenomorph, so on and so on. It's a huge risk on the companies part.
Something doesn't sit right.
We still have two more films in prometheus, im betting by the end we will know how the company finds out about the alien and how the ship on lv426 was discovered. Ash was the "professional" he was suppose to make sure it returned to the company.
And I dont think this is canon.
And i dont care about multiplayer i just want a strong solid, fun and scary single player. (and also to play first person alien)
We know how they found out about the ship on LV426.
I dont think ive ever heard of how they discovered the ship on 426
They detected a signal coming from the Derelict, as stated in 'Alien'.
Quote from: Nazrel on Dec 13, 2013, 04:53:05 AM
I dont think ive ever heard of how they discovered the ship on 426
Company picks up signal, translates, diverts next ship near that region of space to check it out.
The company knew about the ship or at least the alien before they got the signal. How they knew about it is what im hoping they explain.
There's no evidence they knew about the ship or the Alien before they got the signal.
Quote from: SM on Dec 13, 2013, 06:01:04 AM
There's no evidence they knew about the ship or the Alien before they got the signal.
Ash's instructions were awfully specific especially if the company had no idea what was there. I believe they kew what was there because of how specific Ash's instructions were from them.
Quote from: cloverfan98 on Dec 13, 2013, 06:19:48 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 13, 2013, 06:01:04 AM
There's no evidence they knew about the ship or the Alien before they got the signal.
Ash's instructions were awfully specific especially if the company had no idea what was there. I believe they kew what was there because of how specific Ash's instructions were from them.
I always got the impression that they knew there was *something* of extraterrestrial origin there, but didn't know exactly what.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 13, 2013, 06:23:21 AM
Quote from: cloverfan98 on Dec 13, 2013, 06:19:48 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 13, 2013, 06:01:04 AM
There's no evidence they knew about the ship or the Alien before they got the signal.
Ash's instructions were awfully specific especially if the company had no idea what was there. I believe they kew what was there because of how specific Ash's instructions were from them.
I always got the impression that they knew there was *something* of extraterrestrial origin there, but didn't know exactly what.
It's been awhile since I've seen it but doesn't Mother say Priority One is retrieval of life form? So they knew they wanted a biological life form as opposed to a piece of technology like the Derelict itself.
Well to be fair, a signal from an apparently intelligent source implies some sort of (biological) creator of said source.
Quote from: SM on Dec 13, 2013, 06:01:04 AM
There's no evidence they knew about the ship or the Alien before they got the signal.
Then why plant Ash on the ship? An Andriod that wouldn't be targeting to create more aliens. I mean, it could be lucky coincidence, and that's sort of how it struck me when I first watched the film. He's analyzing the thing, curious about it, because by default he's programmed to be, and the order that Ripley found out about was just a standard procedure thing, as harsh as it was.
But then why send an andriod on board a towing vessel for no good reason. Why not at least let the crew know about it?
It just doesn't add up very well in my mind.
And there's nothing to suggest that the company knew about the ship prior to Aliens. If they had, why wouldn't they go to it and figure out what was going on. It was Burk who sent the colonists out there, almost 60 years after Alien, only after learning about it from Ripley. Burk wanted the alien, not the company, at that time. It wasn't until Alien 3 that the company officially knew (or realized it wasn't a hoax) about it (excluding ACM as cannon), and they send a very Hazmat looking group to go get it.
It'd be more appropriate, if they knew about the alien, to send a specialized team in. If Aliens visited earth, I wouldn't want a stressed out trucker being the first guy he met...
Also, I'll point out, It was the Nostromo (Mother) than got the distress signal, not the company, at least that's not implied. And they were essentially lost in space, nowhere near the time that they were supposed to wake up from Cryo. Remember Ripley calling antartic control or whatever it was? If it was a serious issue, even after the alien appeared on board, why didn't they try to contact earth and get some advisement? I think it's because they don't have those communication methods at that point, or at least the ship isn't fitted with them. So they're acting alone, doing what they're doing because its in their contract. The order to retrieve specimen, Ash defending it, all of that seemed like a default way of doing things. 'Oh you found an creature from another world? bring it back, it's more important than you.' Thus, the lives of the crew being secondary. I can imagine why they'd do it that way too. Say it's a disease, and humans are now space-traveling, they happen across the disease, maybe it turns out it can affect humans. the company would have going to assume that if such is the case, there's no reason to assume that the crew can do anything about it anyway, so let them die. That way the company can learn from it, and figure out if it's present anywhere else.
Ash did refer to the Alien as the perfect organism. I don't think he meant compared to us or a lion, but against all organisms, even microbial ones. It's resilience, life cycle, acid for blood, it's a potential mass murdering machine. Virus's infect a host to recreate, the Alien does too, only it's not a single cell. That would be impressive to anyone. So think of the Alien as a Virus, the company would want a sample, so they can understand it, protect against, and potentially weaponize it.
UDA knows what i was talking about.
QuoteAsh's instructions were awfully specific especially if the company had no idea what was there. I believe they kew what was there because of how specific Ash's instructions were from them.
Words like "organism" and "specimen" aren't specific at all.
QuoteThen why plant Ash on the ship?
Because the Company picked up the signal and translated it and wanted whatever they were warning about. Or at the very least whoever sent the transmission.
Quoteand the order that Ripley found out about was just a standard procedure thing
No, it's not. It's a "Special Order" specific o the Nostromo.
QuoteIt'd be more appropriate, if they knew about the alien, to send a specialized team in. If Aliens visited earth, I wouldn't want a stressed out trucker being the first guy he met...
There you go then - they didn't know about it.
QuoteAlso, I'll point out, It was the Nostromo (Mother) than got the distress signal, not the company, at least that's not implied.
No. Quite the opposite. SO937 says the Nostromo was re-routed. They were in the vicinity of LV-426 because they'd been re-routed there and it was made to look like Mother picked up the signal by accident which would automatically activate the clause saying they're obliged to investigate.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 13, 2013, 06:23:21 AM
Quote from: cloverfan98 on Dec 13, 2013, 06:19:48 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 13, 2013, 06:01:04 AM
There's no evidence they knew about the ship or the Alien before they got the signal.
Ash's instructions were awfully specific especially if the company had no idea what was there. I believe they kew what was there because of how specific Ash's instructions were from them.
I always got the impression that they knew there was *something* of extraterrestrial origin there, but didn't know exactly what.
............Special Order 937....................
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Dec 08, 2013, 01:54:05 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Dec 08, 2013, 01:50:38 AM
Wait, is this the same one that has Ripley's daughter fighting hordes of soldiers and clones?
yep
Images look cool but fact that this game follows Ripley's daughter is just wrong. Why must we go back and milk the original movies (Alien & Aliens) to the point where it's not even funny? Creating new characters is the way to go. That said, I had high hopes for Winter's character in Aliens: CM but we all know how that went.
Quote from: AVP1974 on Dec 13, 2013, 11:14:55 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 13, 2013, 06:23:21 AM
Quote from: cloverfan98 on Dec 13, 2013, 06:19:48 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 13, 2013, 06:01:04 AM
There's no evidence they knew about the ship or the Alien before they got the signal.
Ash's instructions were awfully specific especially if the company had no idea what was there. I believe they kew what was there because of how specific Ash's instructions were from them.
I always got the impression that they knew there was *something* of extraterrestrial origin there, but didn't know exactly what.
............Special Order 937....................
Yeah, that jives pretty well with what I'd said.
Dig the aesthetic and mood of the art. Like that they're using the Alien title.
Still can't stand the premise we've been told.
Quote from: cloverfan98 on Dec 13, 2013, 06:19:48 AM
Ash's instructions were awfully specific especially if the company had no idea what was there. I believe they kew what was there because of how specific Ash's instructions were from them.
Like SM says, they're really not all that specific, beyond knowing an organism was involved. We don't even know if the company figured out it was a warning or not, but given Ripley's sit-back-and-let-it-happen ease with translation, it seems likely they did.
The bottom line is, if you think the company knew more than the very basics ahead of time, you have to come up with a reason for why they didn't at least just restaff and retrofit a commercial vessel, if not send in a specialised ship (the absence of doing so is even more glaring after '
Prometheus'). To this day, I've never seen anyone able to plausibly square that circle.
Quote from: szkoki on Dec 07, 2013, 11:33:37 PM
space games have so much potential, not to mention space horrors....nothing since since....
Quote from: aliens13 on Dec 07, 2013, 10:54:36 PM
Look, there's an Alien in this image:
http://imageshack.us/a/img593/11/wthq.jpg
she looks like...
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would be cool if real actors would have been animated into the game :) and it would have a kind of a serious story telling
The Mo-cap stuff has come a long way, I'm hoping they do the whole gambit, record their facial movements and put that into the game.
Recording facial movements well is a reasonably new technology - LA Noire completely nailed it, but they also had to base the entire game around that graphical "gimmick" to make it worth implementing.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 14, 2013, 02:55:36 AM
Recording facial movements well is a reasonably new technology - LA Noire completely nailed it, but they also had to base the entire game around that graphical "gimmick" to make it worth implementing.
I don't know enough about coding and making video games to know. You mean they have to kind of pick one thing and build everything else around it? Or you mean like the hardware resources (or maybe game development resources, money and time and people) just weren't there to add on more? I did see some of L.A. Nior, It was fascinating to watch the faces, I wouldn't mind seeing that again on the next gen, hopefully the tech to record and implement that stuff has progressed even further as well.
Well I mean the physical to record the faces for LA Noire was insanely comprehensive and cutting-edge, but also required having the actors sit in a special recording chair and speak all of their lines while being surrounded by a bunch of special cameras, independent of the motion-capture stuff they also did for the characters' movements.
Here's a video showing how the facial capture stuff in LA Noire was done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY7RYCsE9KQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY7RYCsE9KQ#ws)
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 14, 2013, 10:33:14 PM
Well I mean the physical to record the faces for LA Noire was insanely comprehensive and cutting-edge, but also required having the actors sit in a special recording chair and speak all of their lines while being surrounded by a bunch of special cameras, independent of the motion-capture stuff they also did for the characters' movements.
Here's a video showing how the facial capture stuff in LA Noire was done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY7RYCsE9KQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY7RYCsE9KQ#ws)
Wow, that's way more involved than I had thought it was. I've seen the stuff where they wear the suits and there's a small camera basically hanging off their head, but that's pretty crazy.
Yeah, that's what I mean by it being so intensive that they basically based the entire game around that technology/"gimmick". In time I hope it becomes more commonplace to see that level of realism in facial motion-capture, but I don't see it happening for a good few years at least.
Did Beyond: Two Souls use that level of motion capture, or just the actors' likenesses?
I have no idea, I'd have to do some research on it. I'm pretty sure the tech used in LA Noire was largely proprietary and might have been owned by the dev team who made LA Noire (Team Bondi or something like that?).
Edit-- the tech used in LA Noire was MotionScan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MotionScan) and was developed by a sister company of Team Bondi, and has only been used on LA Noire to date.
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Hard to make out but these actress could be or may have been the model of influence on the cover picture.
IMHO, all would play a great Amanda Ripley daughter of Ellen.
1. Marion- Cotillard
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2. Emily Blunt
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3. Rose Bryne
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The art for the game totally looks like Marion Cotillard. :P
This reminds me: when do I get my Rose Byrne video game? :laugh:
Whoa! Totally looks like Marion Cotillard! Uncanny!
New screen shoot!!!
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or Robin Tunney from End of Days
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but the promo artwork in the previous post looks similar to Ellen but not creepy much, great artwork imo
Quote from: Master on Jan 07, 2014, 05:05:16 PM
New screen shoot!!!
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I think the thing I like the most about this picture is she looks like a normal person.
3 other characters already on the website
http://www.alienisolation.com/en_us/media/art (http://www.alienisolation.com/en_us/media/art)
Is it just me, or does our alien have the AR 'doglegs'? I hope not.
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It doesn't look quite as excessive as it was on the AR aliens, but yeah it does appear he has digitigrade legs.
The legs look fine.
velociraptor!
The legs and feet are bad, the feet should be like they were In the first two movies like human feet and so should the legs hopefully they fix it these feet look funny.
Quote from: szkoki on Jan 08, 2014, 05:05:39 PM
3 other characters already on the website
http://www.alienisolation.com/en_us/media/art (http://www.alienisolation.com/en_us/media/art)
Samuels is the android! :D
That male render did kind of remind me a Bishop. But I'm hoping they avoid any android twists at all. Or any android characters even.
There are other differences on the alien, other than the feet and legs.... look how taller he is than the human character on that screenshot.. and he's bent forward. The chest is also different than the one on the Giger Alien. :P But still.. a very Giger-esque design and tons better than the stuff in A: Colonial marines. :P
maybe it's been born out of an engineer... They go down to LV426.. wake up an engineer from cryo with an alien inside him... Blam. :P
Quote from: Blacklabel on Jan 09, 2014, 01:02:02 AM
There are other differences on the alien, other than the feet and legs.... look how taller he is than the human character on that screenshot.. and he's bent forward. The chest is also different than the one on the Giger Alien. :P But still.. a very Giger-esque design and tons better than the stuff in A: Colonial marines. :P
maybe it's been born out of an engineer... They go down to LV426.. wake up an engineer from cryo with an alien inside him... Blam. :P
In one of the videos for the game the creators said that the alien is a little bigger than the one in the first movie. I also heard but I could have misheard it that when they go onto the ship the game takes place in the alien was already on board I'm not sure though. As for the design I really like it, I wish the legs and feet were more like the original alien and that the tail was a little thicker but other than that the alien looks great.
You're absolutely right Queen. It's like over 9 feet tall and they mention in the Game Republic magazines that there will be no facehuggers or anything - the alien is already on the station when Amanda arrives.
I like to emphasis on the alien being a towering beast, but I hope it's not overdone.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Jan 09, 2014, 03:31:12 AM
You're absolutely right Queen. It's like over 9 feet tall and they mention in the Game Republic magazines that there will be no facehuggers or anything - the alien is already on the station when Amanda arrives.
I like to emphasis on the alien being a towering beast, but I hope it's not overdone.
I hope they give us a little idea on how it got onto the station like little hints throughout the game but not a full blown explanation. As for the alien being big I don't think they will over do it, the Aliens size in the game play looks good. I like how they made it taller it's more menacing but not over the top, I'm really looking forward to the game and hope its good.
Found this buried in Google images...
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So the game takes place in the same class ship as Nostromo?
No, it's a space station. The name of it is kicking around in one of the interviews. Certainly reminiscent of the Nostromo's refinery, though.
Good find, Snark!
Ok, thanks!
It's apparently called the Sevastopol. Named after a Ukrainian city!
Quote from: Snark on Jan 10, 2014, 07:58:59 AM
Found this buried in Google images...
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It's from the Wallpaper section of the official website. You can find it there in all resolutions.
http://www.alienisolation.com/en_us/media/wallpapers (http://www.alienisolation.com/en_us/media/wallpapers)
Quote from: Snark on Jan 10, 2014, 07:58:59 AM
Found this buried in Google images...
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This game is really getting me hyped. It has the chance to be refreshingly horrifying.
Quote from: Snark on Jan 10, 2014, 07:58:59 AM
Found this buried in Google images...
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I'm really interested in what happened to the ship the graphics look awesome and I'm very excited.
Amanda is great with her big hips :)
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Do those come in any bigger sizes?
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Jul 18, 2014, 11:56:36 PM
Do those come in any bigger sizes?
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=50801.msg1955048#msg1955048 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=50801.msg1955048#msg1955048)
Damn I wonder if there are any reviews out yet.