Prometheus Will Be A 15 In The UKQuote
Good news, UK horror / sci-fi fans! Word has emerged that Ridley Scott's Prometheus will be receiving a 15 certificate in the UK - and that's a 15 secured without any cuts or edits, so we're seeing it very much as the director intended.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=33910 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=33910)
15 certificate will do. The BBFC rating system is bizarre though. AVP received a 15 rating despite it being PG-13 in the States.
The BBFC works in mysterious ways... ;)
Aslong as it isnt tame, has hardcore violence (when necessary) and has truly terrifying space horror.... im content.
The original Alien is definite 15 material nowadays though. Off the top of my head, I think there is only one f-bomb? The violence is brief and sharp, not lingering and gratuitous. Its mainly its tone which is unsettling. The chestburster scene renders this all moot though. The most violent, disturbing, bloody scene cranks it right up to an 18.
I think Prometheus' apparent companion scene
Spoiler
The C-Sec scene
will not even come close in rivalling its intensity.
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
Spoiler
The C-Sec scene
Spoiler
Those damned turians get everywhere...
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 09, 2012, 01:36:52 PM
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
Spoiler
The C-Sec scene
Spoiler
Those damned turians get everywhere...
Last 8-Minutes of the movie -
Spoiler
The Engineer is piloting Sovereign, Shaw must choose Red, Blue or Green to save the universe
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 01:46:20 PM
Last 8-Minutes of the movie -
Spoiler
The Engineer is piloting Sovereign, Shaw must choose Red, Blue or Green to save the universe
First review just in...
Spoiler
Peter Weyland in Cerberus funding shocker - ILLUSIVE MAN REVEALED AS TRUE DESIGNER OF DAVID. :o
They keep saying no cuts, but in France, they are already advertising the Blu ray as having 20 mins of Deleted Scenes.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 09, 2012, 01:52:30 PM
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 01:46:20 PM
Last 8-Minutes of the movie -
Spoiler
The Engineer is piloting Sovereign, Shaw must choose Red, Blue or Green to save the universe
First review just in...
Spoiler
Peter Weyland in Cerberus funding shocker - ILLUSIVE MAN REVEALED AS TRUE DESIGNER OF DAVID. :o
ZOMG!!1! I want my DLC new ending in the theatre! Stat!!
Quote from: GreatKnower on May 09, 2012, 02:00:09 PM
They keep saying no cuts, but in France, they are already advertising the Blu ray as having 20 mins of Deleted Scenes.
Link?
I know that at the Paris press conference there was a misunderstanding that 17 minutes were cut. Ridley was in fact referring to Legend and not Prometheus.
Quote from: GreatKnower on May 09, 2012, 02:00:09 PM
They keep saying no cuts, but in France, they are already advertising the Blu ray as having 20 mins of Deleted Scenes.
I'll copy and paste what I said in another thread:
"No offence but it's a tad too early to be releasing information on Blu-Ray and DVD features for a film that hasn't even seen its theatrical release yet.
It also strikes me as a little odd that a random DVD company from France is the only one releasing this information.
It's highly likely that somebody that works for 'DVD en français' is a Prometheus fan absorbing false information OR a Prometheus fan contacted them with this "exclusive" information.
A lot of people are under the impression Ridley Scott mentioned 20 minutes being cut from Prometheus. He was referring to 17 minutes from another film.
To me, this is a case of broken telephone."
https://twitter.com/#!/dvdenfrancais/status/199301701893767168 (https://twitter.com/#!/dvdenfrancais/status/199301701893767168)
This guy has always been right in the past.
UK release in October and US release in November.
Quote from: GreatKnower on May 09, 2012, 02:29:05 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/dvdenfrancais/status/199301701893767168 (https://twitter.com/#!/dvdenfrancais/status/199301701893767168)
This guy has always been right in the past.
UK release in October and US release in November.
Even if this is true, this will refer to scenes that were cut by Ridley willingly as being superfluous to the plot.
No scenes have been cut for violent or adult content. Allegedly. ;)
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 01:46:20 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 09, 2012, 01:36:52 PM
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
Spoiler
The C-Sec scene
Spoiler
Those damned turians get everywhere...
Last 8-Minutes of the movie -
Spoiler
The Engineer is piloting Sovereign, Shaw must choose Red, Blue or Green to save the universe
Damn that ending was crap! Total failure.
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
The original Alien is definite 15 material nowadays though. Off the top of my head, I think there is only one f-bomb? The violence is brief and sharp, not lingering and gratuitous. Its mainly its tone which is unsettling. The chestburster scene renders this all moot though. The most violent, disturbing, bloody scene cranks it right up to an 18.
I think Prometheus' apparent companion scene Spoiler
The C-Sec scene
But Alien IS a 15, it was reclassified.
Quote from: Divpax on May 09, 2012, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
The original Alien is definite 15 material nowadays though. Off the top of my head, I think there is only one f-bomb? The violence is brief and sharp, not lingering and gratuitous. Its mainly its tone which is unsettling. The chestburster scene renders this all moot though. The most violent, disturbing, bloody scene cranks it right up to an 18.
I think Prometheus' apparent companion scene Spoiler
The C-Sec scene
But Alien IS a 15, it was reclassified.
Yeah, that's what I was inferring. It could have been a 15 back in '79 if not for the chestburster scene. The "Director's Cut" in 2003 dropped it down to 15.
My first post after reading for several months...thought I'd deliver this good official news.
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/recent/films/ (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/recent/films/)
excellent!
I think the reason this rubs some parts of the fandom the wrong way is because of the psychosexual components of Giger's stuff. The fact he's been reported for a good long while as having no more impact on the film than designing some murals, already gave people an impression that the hoped for return to those halcyon days of 'what if', might never come to be. If given the choice between Giger having major contributions to the designs and tone of a film and it being directed by Ridley Scott? I'd almost put money on at least two thirds of fans voting enthusiastically for the Giger option.
A 15 rating is a double-edged sword. You can imply a heck of a lot with ambiguity and I've always used Lambert's death scene as an example of this. It's probably the most disturbing of the entire series and much of that has to do with the audio heard over speakers, reminiscent of an agonising birth, immediately after that worrying implication of a tail slowly creeping up between her thighs. But... There are also a lot of films with a 15 rating which are awfully tame.
I know that Ridley Scott's repeatedly said he wants to scare the shit out of people, but we still don't know what his standard of 'scary' is, these days. He might have gone down the path of people like Moffat, in charge of today's 'Doctor Who', who maintain that the scariest possible things are often the most mundane. Hotel rooms, darkness and so on... It's totally plausible that we might get a version of 'Prometheus' which is very inferior, horror-wise, to the kind of subject matter implied with 'Alien'.
As always, time will tell. But I think we might be jinxing the thing by heralding this as the most awesome possible thing to happen for the project.
Quote from: deadlydanscott on May 10, 2012, 11:28:35 AM
My first post after reading for several months...thought I'd deliver this good official news.
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/recent/films/ (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/recent/films/)
excellent!
Excellent indeed. To quote the BBFC:
Contains strong violence, gore, threat and horrorThats everything I was looking for!
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 04:32:58 PM
Quote from: Divpax on May 09, 2012, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
The original Alien is definite 15 material nowadays though. Off the top of my head, I think there is only one f-bomb? The violence is brief and sharp, not lingering and gratuitous. Its mainly its tone which is unsettling. The chestburster scene renders this all moot though. The most violent, disturbing, bloody scene cranks it right up to an 18.
I think Prometheus' apparent companion scene Spoiler
The C-Sec scene
But Alien IS a 15, it was reclassified.
Yeah, that's what I was inferring. It could have been a 15 back in '79 if not for the chestburster scene. The "Director's Cut" in 2003 dropped it down to 15.
Yeah it must have been a 15 in 2003, because I had just turned 14, and managed to get in to a screening of it - back then I absolutely could not get in for 18's and I distinctly remember not even being ID'd.
Wonder why the Director's Cut was a 15, but the Theatrical Cut has remained an 18.
Note also the running time, 123 minutes 36 seconds.
2 hr 3 m 36 for those who thought 119 minutes was 1 hr 19 a while back...
Quote from: zoidy on May 10, 2012, 03:52:33 PM
Quote from: deadlydanscott on May 10, 2012, 11:28:35 AM
My first post after reading for several months...thought I'd deliver this good official news.
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/recent/films/ (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/recent/films/)
excellent!
Excellent indeed. To quote the BBFC:
Contains strong violence, gore, threat and horror
Thats everything I was looking for!
Threat, horror and violence all get a thumbs up, and I've always liked the way Ridley handles gore with very rapid edits that are suggestive more than needlessly graphic. Although I must admit that films like the Final Destination and Saw films and those that have followed in their wake like Piranha 3D with their 'gleefuly'(?) lingering gore have turned me right off of it. However I'll put that down to incompetence on their part for relying too much on showing every last detail.
Quote from: Stannis Baratheon on May 10, 2012, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 04:32:58 PM
Quote from: Divpax on May 09, 2012, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
The original Alien is definite 15 material nowadays though. Off the top of my head, I think there is only one f-bomb? The violence is brief and sharp, not lingering and gratuitous. Its mainly its tone which is unsettling. The chestburster scene renders this all moot though. The most violent, disturbing, bloody scene cranks it right up to an 18.
I think Prometheus' apparent companion scene Spoiler
The C-Sec scene
But Alien IS a 15, it was reclassified.
Yeah, that's what I was inferring. It could have been a 15 back in '79 if not for the chestburster scene. The "Director's Cut" in 2003 dropped it down to 15.
Yeah it must have been a 15 in 2003, because I had just turned 14, and managed to get in to a screening of it - back then I absolutely could not get in for 18's and I distinctly remember not even being ID'd.
Wonder why the Director's Cut was a 15, but the Theatrical Cut has remained an 18.
Just too much effort to appeal to lower it's classification, considering almost all alien dvd/blu ray sales are part of an 18 rated box set already.
Quote from: ucdom on May 10, 2012, 04:36:10 PM
Note also the running time, 123 minutes 36 seconds.
2 hr 3 m 36 for those who thought 119 minutes was 1 hr 19 a while back...
I suspect that extra 4 and 1/2 minutes are just the credits, 119 was without them.
Shame, I was hoping the extra 4 minutes would be bloopers
:laugh:
Quote from: Stannis Baratheon on May 10, 2012, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 04:32:58 PM
Quote from: Divpax on May 09, 2012, 04:19:49 PM
Quote from: Promethean Fire on May 09, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
The original Alien is definite 15 material nowadays though. Off the top of my head, I think there is only one f-bomb? The violence is brief and sharp, not lingering and gratuitous. Its mainly its tone which is unsettling. The chestburster scene renders this all moot though. The most violent, disturbing, bloody scene cranks it right up to an 18.
I think Prometheus' apparent companion scene Spoiler
The C-Sec scene
But Alien IS a 15, it was reclassified.
Yeah, that's what I was inferring. It could have been a 15 back in '79 if not for the chestburster scene. The "Director's Cut" in 2003 dropped it down to 15.
Yeah it must have been a 15 in 2003, because I had just turned 14, and managed to get in to a screening of it - back then I absolutely could not get in for 18's and I distinctly remember not even being ID'd.
Wonder why the Director's Cut was a 15, but the Theatrical Cut has remained an 18.
I've also wondered about this too, the original cut did feature the cocoon scene, but Ridley decided to remove it at the last minute. When Alien came out all those years ago no one had seen anything like it before, people were truly shocked by that chest burster scene, that's why the film was an 18 when it came out. People are much more tolerable these days, plus theres been so many Alien rip offs we just dont easily get scared any more. I'm happy with a 15 rating here i the UK anyway.
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The removal of the coccoon scene from Alien was all about pace and nothing to do with a rating. That scene, which appears in the special edition (and is not that good anyway) really slows down the movie at a point when it's builiding to a climax.
You can see the film's editor, Terry Rawlings, and Ridley, talking about it in various 'making-of' features.
Quote from: ucdom on May 11, 2012, 08:15:45 AM
The removal of the coccoon scene from Alien was all about pace and nothing to do with a rating. That scene, which appears in the special edition (and is not that good anyway) really slows down the movie at a point when it's builiding to a climax.
You can see the film's editor, Terry Rawlings, and Ridley, talking about it in various 'making-of' features.
On the other hand, I would love to see those dipping birds countdown shot edited into the end of the actual countdown sequence.