Ok guys, I been scanning the forum on http://www.blu-ray.com/ under http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=129438 and there appears to be a new edition of Predator blu ray popping up on foreign websites.http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/813127 , http://www.amazon.ca/Predator-Extended-Edition-Blu-ray/dp/B003HNNS0Q?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1271806301&sr=1-46&tag=bluraycom0c-20, http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20100420_362485.html What do guys think? Do you think the U.S. will get a re-release to coincide with the new movie. I sure hope so.
I'm surprised we haven't got news yet of a million P and P2 re-releases.
Of course there is a new one coming out. With the release of Predators they will do a new edition and probably a box set later this year.
"Extendet edition" mmmm... interesting.
Kick ass cover:
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EDIT: New edition also coming to the UK, due for release on 02/08/2010
http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/14918443/Predator-Fully-Loaded-Edition/Product.html
"Fully Loaded Edition"
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 22, 2010, 09:16:35 AM
Kick ass cover:
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/img/avw/docs/362/485/fox01.jpg
Seconded! :D
looks good but looks like ADI pred not original pred
Quote from: BISHOP 93 on Apr 22, 2010, 06:40:14 PM
looks good but looks like ADI pred not original pred
Methinks not. Look at the upper jaw. It has only two teeth, so Avp is discarded. It hasn't the overly big mandibles on the lower jaw aren't huge like in Wolf. It's definitely the original Predator.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 22, 2010, 09:16:35 AM
Of course there is a new one coming out. With the release of Predators they will do a new edition and probably a box set later this year.
"Extendet edition" mmmm... interesting.
Kick ass cover:
http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/img/avw/docs/362/485/fox01.jpg
EDIT: New edition also coming to the UK, due for release on 02/08/2010
http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/14918443/Predator-Fully-Loaded-Edition/Product.html
"Fully Loaded Edition"
Holy crap thats a badass cover!
Is it Anytime? Or could Fox be pulling what they did with Predator 2 with Wolf on the cover? A leaked Predators pred with no helmet?
QuoteKick ass cover
Oh yeah!
btw that is certainly Anytime: the textures around his eyes, the top of the inner mouth... there's only one of them who looks like that, I simply believe that they have completely redone the eyes and that's why it looks a bit different...
Haha!
I'm glad I waited. You didn't get me FOX you sneaky b**tards you.
But I must say, that artwork is really sweet! Hope the UK art is similar!
I like the artwork! I wonder what's up with this "Extended Edition" label the Canadian Amazon site are giving it? I didn't think there was any real extra footage they could use (judging by the deleted scenes on the DVD)?
Probably another FOX marketing gimmick.
I'm buying a blu ray just for the cover.
Agreed, I just got the normal Blu-Ray, but I need one with that cover. :)
n33dz moar icee bloo
Quote from: Shasvre on Apr 22, 2010, 08:34:21 PM
Agreed, I just got the normal Blu-Ray, but I need one with that cover. :)
I myself am buying the blu ray player, JUST for this.
It looks like a Predator 2 concept art... I think I have a picture in my Stan Winston book.
Meh, the cover sucks.
Will I still buy it?
Shit yes I will!
Don't really like the cover that much.
Waited out on buying Predator on blu-ray, saw this coming! Hopefully, it looks as good as Predator 2 does, with extras. New extras too, I hope.
Quote from: Dino21AvP on Apr 23, 2010, 05:29:00 AM
Don't really like the cover that much.
Personally I hope R2 get's a masked Predator.
I hope they try to restore the film or do something to make the picture better. The first blu had the best picture I've ever seen with predator, but there was a lot of grain. I heard it might be a MPEG-4 AVC. Of course it will have all the extras from the special edition, maybe a Predators trailer or better yet a scene from the new movie, that would be cool.
Thats
the best predator 1 cover ever... but well... it didnt had any real competitor. :D jajaja
Quote from: BISHOP 93 on Apr 22, 2010, 06:40:14 PM
looks good but looks like ADI pred not original pred
seriously???
adi predators have like 10000 upper teeth.
Dont forget the sad brows and jay leno chin!
Quote from: ShadowPred on Apr 22, 2010, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: Shasvre on Apr 22, 2010, 08:34:21 PM
Agreed, I just got the normal Blu-Ray, but I need one with that cover. :)
I myself am buying the blu ray player, JUST for this.
Dont waste your money. I have the SE DVD and the Blu Ray also, and I got a PS3. The dvd looks alot better than the Blu Ray, the way the PS3 upgrades the image of the dvd.
Quote from: Mutha_Brucka on Apr 23, 2010, 11:53:45 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Apr 22, 2010, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: Shasvre on Apr 22, 2010, 08:34:21 PM
Agreed, I just got the normal Blu-Ray, but I need one with that cover. :)
I myself am buying the blu ray player, JUST for this.
Dont waste your money. I have the SE DVD and the Blu Ray also, and I got a PS3. The dvd looks alot better than the Blu Ray, the way the PS3 upgrades the image of the dvd.
No dude. I got the same setup. I watch both on my ps3 and the blu is better. The dvd doesn't have as much grain, but the blu has better sharpness, and detail.
If they release a new blu ray with some special features i know im probably gonna pick it up, one can only hope so
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Apr 23, 2010, 10:46:25 PM
Dont forget the sad brows and jay leno chin!
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OMG!!
Nailed it! lol that pic makes me cry inside... They should NEVER EVER look scarred. I always believed their face was always automatically in the "mad" universal pose and will always believe it should be. So much scarier that way. This... This breaks my heart. Someones gotta come up with a good caption for that pic to make me happy again ;D
Oh Zilla, that picture is breaking my heart too... please make it go away... make it go away...
This is the exact reason, why PREDATORS has got a new Breed in it... that no one will confuse them with this... Thing...
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 24, 2010, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Apr 23, 2010, 10:46:25 PM
Dont forget the sad brows and jay leno chin!
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OMG!!
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Anytime ... is not amused by ADI effort.
The expressions on anytime with that picture and quote is hilarious.
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 24, 2010, 07:00:43 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 24, 2010, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Apr 23, 2010, 10:46:25 PM
Dont forget the sad brows and jay leno chin!
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OMG!!
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m191/Izzys88/predator_header.jpg
Anytime ... is not amused by ADI effort.
:D :D :D
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 24, 2010, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Apr 23, 2010, 10:46:25 PM
Dont forget the sad brows and jay leno chin!
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OMG!!
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Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 24, 2010, 07:00:43 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 24, 2010, 11:17:12 AM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Apr 23, 2010, 10:46:25 PM
Dont forget the sad brows and jay leno chin!
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OMG!!
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m191/Izzys88/predator_header.jpg
Anytime ... is not amused by ADI effort.
Coming... Back... Down... Thank u Valaquen. Ur right. He is NOT amused.
To this day, Anytime looks amazing and authentic.
I went to the Amazon.com Japan website where the Blu Ray has some details (in Japanese). I then went to a website where you can type in the URL of a Japanese web page and it can translate it to English for you (sort of). Here are the verbatim results it gave me about the Blu Ray:
Registration information
Performance: Arnold [shiyuwarutsuenetsuga], cirque [uezasu], [jieshi] [benchiyura] and building duke
Supervision: John [makuteianan]
Type: Color, Dolby, DTS Stereo, Dubbed, Subtitled and Widescreen
Picture size: 1.78:1
Disk quantity: 1
Selling agency: The 20th century fox foam/home entertainment Japan
DVD sale day: 2010/06/25
Time: 107 minutes
Explanation of commodity
Contents introduction
Theater up-to-date work '[puredetazu]' release commemoration!
It develops with the inner part of [shiyuwarutsuenetsuga] starring and the jungle, dead fighting of the meat diet alien and the command unit!
You recorded luxurious image benefit, upgraded < the special compilation > the blue ray, first appearance!
< Cast & staff >
Dutch Shafer...Arnold [shiyuwarutsuenetsuga] (玄 rice field Satoru Akira)
D remaining overnight...Cirque [uezasu] (Takayuki Sugo)
Blurring in...[jieshi] [benchiyura] (blue field military affairs)
Mack...Building duke (wheat person)
Supervision: John [makuteianan]
Production: Lawrence Gordon/[jiyoeru] silver/John [deibisu]
- Subtitle translation: Branch Shinji Oka - Blowing substitution translation: Katsushige Hirata
< Story >
The government VIP who becomes the captive in order to rescue, Shafer who is dispatched in the jungle of the South America the command unit which is led. Whether in them who succeed in captive capture sudden spurious article it attacks. As for the method being cruel inhuman, as for the body it went out, just the internal organs were left the bloodstain without. Natural shape of the enemy which Shafer saw was brutal meat diet animal = [puredeta] which comes from outer space!
< Point >
The super high picture quality hi-vision image of ★1080p HD.
* The [rosuresu] audio which embodies pure digital sound
* The popup menu where view operation can do main part
- Theater up-to-date work "[puredetazu]" 2010 summer nationwide load show.
- You record luxurious image benefit, it upgraded < the special compilation > sell with the blue ray!
Perfection complete gathering the benefit of new recording of up-to-date image and the like of the theater up-to-date work due to ●HD quality and the benefit which was recorded in DVD!
- Japanese blowing substitution audio meter approximately 103 minute recording.
* We record those of TV broadcast that time which exists. Original sound (subtitle super) with we have stopped attaching the part which does not have the sound source of part blowing substitution.
< Benefit >
- '[puredetazu]' up-to-date image *
- The ultimate hunter who evolves: '[puredetazu]' production staff interview *
- The audio explanation which is due to John [makuteianan] supervision
- Text explanation
- Making of '[puredeta]'
- Inside the [puredeta]
- Special effect scene
- Behind scene episode collection
- Not yet released scene & NG scene collection
- Original theater notice compilation
- Photo gallery
- [puredeta] profile
* Recording benefit only of blue ray disk
Contents (from "Oricon" database)
The hinterland of the jungle the masterpiece hard action which in the stage, drew the [komando] unit and the dead fighting of the life body of puzzle, sends with Arnold [shiyuwarutsuenetsuga] starring.
Quote from: Keith on Apr 24, 2010, 08:34:03 PM
Arnold [shiyuwarutsuenetsuga]
Supervision: John [makuteianan]
Explanation of commodity
dead fighting of the meat diet alien and the command unit!
< Cast & staff >
Mack...Building duke (wheat person)
Blowing substitution translation: Katsushige Hirata
< Story >
The government VIP who becomes the captive in order to rescue, Shafer who is dispatched in the jungle of the South America the command unit which is led. Whether in them who succeed in captive capture sudden spurious article it attacks. As for the method being cruel inhuman, as for the body it went out, just the internal organs were left the bloodstain without. Natural shape of the enemy which Shafer saw was brutal meat diet animal = [puredeta] which comes from outer space!
The hinterland of the jungle the masterpiece hard action which in the stage, drew the [komando] unit and the dead fighting of the life body of puzzle, sends with Arnold [shiyuwarutsuenetsuga] starring.
Lol at mis-translation. These are my highlights.
Predator - meat diet animal :P
PUREDETAAAAA!!!
QuoteArnold [shiyuwarutsuenetsuga] (玄 rice field Satoru Akira)
Now that sounds promising ;D
Rice Field... Oh oh yeah... that must be the extended scene: ;) ::) :D
Whether in them who succeed in captive capture sudden spurious article it attacks... Natural shape of the enemy which Shafer saw was brutal meat diet animal = [puredeta] which comes from outer space!!
!!! Beware the brutal meat diet animal!!! It's from outer space!
I just bought the most recent blu ray and I don't understand what all the fuss is about? The picture looks great!!!!! The jungle has never looked better.
Like I said earlier I don't really like the cover, I personally think it would look much better if the Predator had the mask on...
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Here's a quick photoshop with the mask, it looks so much better IMO.
Wow! Nice Job Dino. Yeah looks kinda cooler I agree.
Thanks. :D
Quote from: Dino21AvP on Apr 25, 2010, 05:52:28 AM
Like I said earlier I don't really like the cover, I personally think it would look much better if the Predator had the mask on...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/DINO21AvP/PredatorBluRay.png
Here's a quick photoshop with the mask, it looks so much better IMO.
That is a huge improvement.
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Predator-Blu-ray-Review/11375/ (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Predator-Blu-ray-Review/11375/)
You can now pre-order it, it's called Predator - Ultimate Hunter Edition
Release: June 29th.
EDIT: US will also get the Jap cover
http://www.dvd-store.it//DVD/Blu-Ray/ID-29232/Predator-Ultimate-Hunter-Edition.aspx (http://www.dvd-store.it//DVD/Blu-Ray/ID-29232/Predator-Ultimate-Hunter-Edition.aspx)
Nice find, thanks. Any news regarding the UK? I hope it comes in a slip-case!
It even comes with movie money. Here is some extras
2-disc set packed with over 5 hours of out-of-this-world extras, including an in-depth documentary, director's commentary, never-before-seen bonus footage, revealing featurettes and more"
I am curious about the never before seen footage.
They always say that^^
The extras will be the same as on the DVD, i bet they will.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 08, 2010, 01:29:40 PM
They always say that^^
The extras will be the same as on the DVD, i bet they will.
Yeah I looked on amazon and the same exact description is listed on the DVD, word for word. If there is no improvements on picture, then I will try to pass.
The cover is beyond epic. I've never seen that shot/art of Anytime. Could it be the fabled "Anytime-like" Pred from the upcoming Predators? I wonder...
Also, Pre-Ordered.
The issue I have with the cover in general is that it says "THIS IS FOR PREDATOR FANS AND NOT FOR THE GENERAL VIEWING PUBLIC". Believe it or not, not everyone knows what a Predator looks like. There's room for the reveal.
And that's a major part of the film as it leads up to the finale. Especially as the creature gets revealed slowly, and you only see it properly shortly before everything goes to hell and Dutch is the only one left. Then the bigger reveal happens -- the removal of the mask.
That cover really violates all that. Sure, it's cool from the perspective of someone familiar with it all, but I think it's an awful decision from a narrative perspective. The masked one is a fair bit better, but a better cover would just be Arnie, partially covered in darkness, with the three-dot laser painted on him.
The film is 23 years old, and has been released with zero spoilers on the cover for every major media platform since then the late 1980's.
Who f**king cares.
Someone who hasn't seen the film before, duh.
It being 23 years old really just supports my point; there's so little awareness of the Predator monster that the reveal is likely a surprise to many people. Having a spoilerific case might've been more appropriate five to ten years after release, but almost twenty-five years later, this film is as mysterious as it could ever be insofar as we're talking post-release.
There you go:
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The Hot Toy's figure?
Quote from: War Wager on May 11, 2010, 06:55:05 PM
The Hot Toy's figure?
Who cares?No one is going to notice that besides us,plus it looks teh awesome anyway.
Love it,Johnny.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 11, 2010, 05:51:12 PM
There you go:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61yeE1KkS3L._SS500_.jpg
I think I prefer the Japanese box art.
That's cool, but I would of still had Arnie on the cover like the Jap release.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 11, 2010, 05:51:12 PM
There you go:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61yeE1KkS3L._SS500_.jpg
Woah, wait, is this official?
I like that one better too. Is that legit, Johnny?
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on May 12, 2010, 09:24:31 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 11, 2010, 05:51:12 PM
There you go:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61yeE1KkS3L._SS500_.jpg
Woah, wait, is this official?
Yes, i think that's the UK cover, the US will get the Jap cover, I'm not sure though.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Predator-Ultimate-Hunter-Blu-ray-US/dp/B003L16FAE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1273684042&sr=8-1
No features on there. Says US import, however.
I think thats the US one, as it's also the cover for the release on Amazon.com.
Just found out the blu ray is getting a new transfer, http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/37514/update-new-predator-blu-ray-way-from-fox still no details about it. Will wait for first reviews before I buy.
Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment has sent us exclusive information about the upcoming Predator "Ultimate Hunter Edition" Blu-ray which hits stores on June 29th 2010. The new release will feature an all new digital restoration of the film, a new sneak peak at Predators, and an all-new retrospective documentary entitled "Evolution of the Species: Hunters of Extreme Perfection" that includes interviews with Predators producer Robert Rodriguez, director Nimród Antal and original Predator producer John Davis. Here's a quote from Rodriguez from the doc:
"What I loved about Predator is how it played against expectations. Everyone expected another Commando type movie, and it starts off that way but then switches gears and goes very horror, sci-fi and it was refreshing to see something take that turn and become something else and that's what I think give it it's cult classic status."
Also, the release will include one of those $10 Movie Money certificates for Predators, which hits theaters on July 9th. Read the full details now, after the jump.
Predator Ultimate Hunter Edition Blu-Ray
IT CAME FOR THE THRILL OF THE HUNT
PREDATOR
ULTIMATE HUNTER EDITION
Arnold Schwarzenegger Stars In The Original Sci-Fi Action Hit
Arriving On Blu-ray June 29 Featuring An All-New Digital Restoration Of The Film And Retrospective Documentary
Includes $10 Movie Money For Predators - In Theaters Everywhere July 9
"If it bleeds, we can kill it..." The ultimate warrior faces the ultimate enemy when Predator: Ultimate Hunter Edition arrives on Blu-ray with a stunning new restored transfer on June 29 from Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment. Available just in time for the theatrical debut of Predators on July 9, the Blu-ray includes $10 in Movie Money to see the latest film in theaters across the country.
Dutch (Arnold Schwarzenegger; The Terminator) wages an all-out war against an unseen enemy, a force more powerful and deadly than any on Earth-because the Predator is not of this Earth. As he leads an elite group of commandos on a rescue mission deep into the jungle, Dutch and his team quickly learn that their foe kills for pleasure and hunts for sport. However, this time....it picked the wrong man to hunt.
Directed by John McTiernan (Die Hard), Predator also stars Carl Weathers (Rocky), Michael Biehn (The Terminator) and Jesse Ventura (The Running Man). Along with a complete digital restoration of the film, the all-new Predator: Ultimate Hunter Edition Blu-ray is loaded with extras including a sneak-peek at the upcoming Predators, an all-new documentary entitled "Evolution of the Species: Hunters of Extreme Perfection" featuring interviews with Predators producer Robert Rodriguez, director Nimród Antal and original Predator producer John Davis, a feature-length commentary by John McTiernan, making-of documentaries, behind-the-scenes footage and much more. The Blu-ray will be available for a suggested retail price of $29.99 U.S./$37.99 Canada.
Predator: Ultimate Hunter Edition Blu-ray Special Features: (Catalog #2268509)
* ALL-NEW Digital Restoration of Predator
* ALL-NEW Sneak Peak at Predators
* ALL-NEW "Evolution of the Species: Hunters of Extreme Perfection" Featurette
* Feature-Length Audio Commentary by John McTiernan
* Text Commentary by Historian Eric Lichtensfeld
* "If It Bleeds, We Can Kill It" Making-Of Documentary
* "Inside The Predator" Documentary
* Special Effects Featurettes
* Deleted Scenes and Outtakes
* Short Takes
* Theatrical Trailers
* Photo Galleries
* Predator Profile
PREDATOR: ULTIMATE HUNTER EDITION BLU-RAY
Street Date: June 29, 2010
Prebook Date: June 2, 2010
Screen Format: Widescreen - 1.85:1
Audio: English 5.1 DTS HD Master Audio, English 4.0 Dolby Surround, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital and French 5.1 DTS
Subtitles: English/French/Spanish
U.S. Rating: R
Total Run Time: 108 minutes
Closed Captioned: Yes
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/05/21/exclusive-predator-ultimate-hunter-edition-blu-ray-details-revealed/
Quote from: DazAvP85 on May 21, 2010, 07:37:10 PM
Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment has sent us exclusive information about the upcoming Predator "Ultimate Hunter Edition" Blu-ray which hits stores on June 29th 2010. The new release will feature an all new digital restoration of the film, a new sneak peak at Predators, and an all-new retrospective documentary entitled "Evolution of the Species: Hunters of Extreme Perfection" that includes interviews with Predators producer Robert Rodriguez, director Nimród Antal and original Predator producer John Davis. Here's a quote from Rodriguez from the doc:
"What I loved about Predator is how it played against expectations. Everyone expected another Commando type movie, and it starts off that way but then switches gears and goes very horror, sci-fi and it was refreshing to see something take that turn and become something else and that's what I think give it it's cult classic status."
Also, the release will include one of those $10 Movie Money certificates for Predators, which hits theaters on July 9th. Read the full details now, after the jump.
Predator Ultimate Hunter Edition Blu-Ray
IT CAME FOR THE THRILL OF THE HUNT
PREDATOR
ULTIMATE HUNTER EDITION
Arnold Schwarzenegger Stars In The Original Sci-Fi Action Hit
Arriving On Blu-ray June 29 Featuring An All-New Digital Restoration Of The Film And Retrospective Documentary
Includes $10 Movie Money For Predators - In Theaters Everywhere July 9
"If it bleeds, we can kill it..." The ultimate warrior faces the ultimate enemy when Predator: Ultimate Hunter Edition arrives on Blu-ray with a stunning new restored transfer on June 29 from Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment. Available just in time for the theatrical debut of Predators on July 9, the Blu-ray includes $10 in Movie Money to see the latest film in theaters across the country.
Dutch (Arnold Schwarzenegger; The Terminator) wages an all-out war against an unseen enemy, a force more powerful and deadly than any on Earth-because the Predator is not of this Earth. As he leads an elite group of commandos on a rescue mission deep into the jungle, Dutch and his team quickly learn that their foe kills for pleasure and hunts for sport. However, this time....it picked the wrong man to hunt.
Directed by John McTiernan (Die Hard), Predator also stars Carl Weathers (Rocky), Michael Biehn (The Terminator) and Jesse Ventura (The Running Man). Along with a complete digital restoration of the film, the all-new Predator: Ultimate Hunter Edition Blu-ray is loaded with extras including a sneak-peek at the upcoming Predators, an all-new documentary entitled "Evolution of the Species: Hunters of Extreme Perfection" featuring interviews with Predators producer Robert Rodriguez, director Nimród Antal and original Predator producer John Davis, a feature-length commentary by John McTiernan, making-of documentaries, behind-the-scenes footage and much more. The Blu-ray will be available for a suggested retail price of $29.99 U.S./$37.99 Canada.
Predator: Ultimate Hunter Edition Blu-ray Special Features: (Catalog #2268509)
* ALL-NEW Digital Restoration of Predator
* ALL-NEW Sneak Peak at Predators
* ALL-NEW "Evolution of the Species: Hunters of Extreme Perfection" Featurette
* Feature-Length Audio Commentary by John McTiernan
* Text Commentary by Historian Eric Lichtensfeld
* "If It Bleeds, We Can Kill It" Making-Of Documentary
* "Inside The Predator" Documentary
* Special Effects Featurettes
* Deleted Scenes and Outtakes
* Short Takes
* Theatrical Trailers
* Photo Galleries
* Predator Profile
PREDATOR: ULTIMATE HUNTER EDITION BLU-RAY
Street Date: June 29, 2010
Prebook Date: June 2, 2010
Screen Format: Widescreen - 1.85:1
Audio: English 5.1 DTS HD Master Audio, English 4.0 Dolby Surround, Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital and French 5.1 DTS
Subtitles: English/French/Spanish
U.S. Rating: R
Total Run Time: 108 minutes
Closed Captioned: Yes
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/05/21/exclusive-predator-ultimate-hunter-edition-blu-ray-details-revealed/
NICE! Had a feeling was going to have something to do with PREDATORS! Will be picking it up for sure! Use that 10$ ticket for my second viewing of predators :D
Quote from: DazAvP85 on May 21, 2010, 07:37:10 PM
Directed by John McTiernan (Die Hard), Predator also stars Carl Weathers (Rocky), Michael Biehn (The Terminator) and Jesse Ventura (The Running Man).
Err...
Quote from: Valaquen on May 21, 2010, 09:08:37 PM
Quote from: DazAvP85 on May 21, 2010, 07:37:10 PM
Directed by John McTiernan (Die Hard), Predator also stars Carl Weathers (Rocky), Michael Biehn (The Terminator) and Jesse Ventura (The Running Man).
Err...
hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! :D wonder if they meant Arnold?
AH. I was just about to post this info, but somebody beat me to it. O-well, so a digital restoration should mean a better PQ. I will now pre-order this, plus for the extra features as well. Can't wait.
That's a picture of the Hot Toys Predator action figure. Great figure, one of my favorites. But still, that cover sucks. Why did they use the toy anyway?
Yeah it seems pretty silly to put the action figure on the front cover. I prefered the Japanese maskless-face/Arnie one.
Quote from: CEP on May 22, 2010, 10:42:44 AM
That's a picture of the Hot Toys Predator action figure. Great figure, one of my favorites. But still, that cover sucks. Why did they use the toy anyway?
FOX's ineptitude never ceases' to amaze!
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on May 22, 2010, 04:50:40 PM
Quote from: CEP on May 22, 2010, 10:42:44 AM
That's a picture of the Hot Toys Predator action figure. Great figure, one of my favorites. But still, that cover sucks. Why did they use the toy anyway?
FOX's ineptitude never ceases' to amaze!
I agree. I like the old one on the DVD special edition better. The new one does not look very good. I am such a huge fan I'll probably make my own cover and slip in the case. I will wait though till I get it, and if it bugs me enough then I will make my own cover. What do you guys think? Good idea or no?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whoblackpool.com%2Fbmz_cache%2F9%2F94fa43c6521aa2bfdfaa67de08781548.image.467x379.jpg&hash=f86a52adca3f73c5a940fbf16b4988dcd2535be1) Scar on predator blu ray
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Wolf on predator 2 box art
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Hot toys figure on new predator blu ray
Good job guys
I really like that one with scar. I mean it looks like anytime anyways plus I like the way it looks. That would be the cover I want.
Damn I hate this cover. Is this the UK cover or the US cover??
Quote from: Hybrid PM on May 23, 2010, 07:20:20 PM
Damn I hate this cover. Is this the UK cover or the US cover??
I know for sure it is for U.S. The UK I think is the same also, but not 100% sure. On http://www.amazon.co.uk/Predator-Ultimate-Hunter-Blu-ray-US/dp/B003L16FAE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1274655729&sr=1-1 it is the same as the U.S. one.
Like I said, I will probably just make my own cover or something, that one looks so childish looking to me, like a kid made it.
Quote from: Huol on May 22, 2010, 11:54:41 PM
http://www.whoblackpool.com/bmz_cache/9/94fa43c6521aa2bfdfaa67de08781548.image.467x379.jpg Scar on predator blu ray
Not entirely sure about this.
Yeah, I wasn't to sure about this either. It looks more like Pred 1 to me. Unless they photoshoped Scars smooth design and made it look more used and worn like Pred 1.
German cover in HD:
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I still prefer this one to the hot toys one, glad i will get this.
I do prefer that cover as well. Any news on it being on Italy as well?
I prefer the japanese/german cover too.
BTW: Was heisst das denn, vonwegen ungeschnittene Fassung? Gibts Szenen, die wir noch nict kennen?!
Quote from: Tangakkai on May 24, 2010, 07:54:23 PM
I prefer the japanese/german cover too.
BTW: Was heisst das denn, vonwegen ungeschnittene Fassung? Gibts Szenen, die wir noch nict kennen?!
That's because the movie was rated 18 in Germany, because of the new upcoming blu-ray Fox did give the movie back to the rating system, this time it got an 16! That's why they are writing it's the uncut version so people don't get confused with the new approved 16 rating.
Ah I see... didn't realise the PG 16 Rating at first :D
Nevertheless, I'm buyin' that thing!
Quote from: Tangakkai on May 24, 2010, 07:59:29 PM
Ah I see... didn't realise the PG 16 Rating at first :D
Nevertheless, I'm buyin' that thing!
I'm too, by default.
*sigh* That's a gorgeous cover. Why do different countries get different art anyways? I fail to see the point.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 24, 2010, 07:03:05 PM
German cover in HD:
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I still prefer this one to the hot toys one, glad i will get this.
You lucky bastard.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on May 24, 2010, 12:19:29 PM
Quote from: Huol on May 22, 2010, 11:54:41 PM
http://www.whoblackpool.com/bmz_cache/9/94fa43c6521aa2bfdfaa67de08781548.image.467x379.jpg Scar on predator blu ray
Not entirely sure about this.
Its scar.
Anytimes mask isnt as fat as that.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 24, 2010, 07:03:05 PM
German cover in HD:
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I still prefer this one to the hot toys one, glad i will get this.
Nice, the best one so far...
it'll be cool if that is just the slip cover and under it is the unmasked cover
The German cover is definitely the best one but why blue ? Green makes more sense.
bluray
Looks like the UK get this cover too...
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There's rumours coming from a German forum stating that the new release has been heavily DNR'd, with motion artifacts in certain scenes etc:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/141479-predator-ultimate-hunter-edition-june-29th-30.html
Can't wait has the release date announced for uk I haven't read threw all the pages so I am blissfully unaware.
As the Predators UK theatrical release has been brought forward to 8th July, will the Blu Ray be brought forward too??
Quote from: DazAvP85 on Jun 04, 2010, 12:46:59 PM
Looks like the UK get this cover too...
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There's rumours coming from a German forum stating that the new release has been heavily DNR'd, with motion artifacts in certain scenes etc:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/141479-predator-ultimate-hunter-edition-june-29th-30.html
Nice, thanks for the info!
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Jun 04, 2010, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: DazAvP85 on Jun 04, 2010, 12:46:59 PM
Looks like the UK get this cover too...
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There's rumours coming from a German forum stating that the new release has been heavily DNR'd, with motion artifacts in certain scenes etc:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/141479-predator-ultimate-hunter-edition-june-29th-30.html
Nice, thanks for the info!
I was reading that last night. I hope this is not true, Fox is calling it a digital restoration right? A digital restoration does not use DNR, that will kill the detail. As far as I know the new Alien Anthology had a complete digital restoration done by Lowry Digital. I am hoping the same has been done for predator. Lowry has done good work and are the best from what I have heard. I will wait for a review before I buy it.
If that pic is any indication on how this is going to look then wow.
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The first and third pics look a bit grainy, but the 2nd one looks great
Quote from: Dachande on Jun 09, 2010, 10:20:10 PM
The first and third pics look a bit grainy, but the 2nd one looks great
i think they are suppose to be like that as a effect for a main menu .
The menus are great.
:o Me likey!
... and yeah I think the grainy look is on purpose in the first and 3rd shot
On a side note, I love Johnny's New Signature. :D
Here is a review http://www.filmsactu.com/test-blu-ray-predator-ultimate-hunter-edition-10498.htm
Here is a screenshot comparison with the old blu and the remastered version.
Old blu ray http://www.imagebam.com/image/e3120984037007
Remastered version http://www.imagebam.com/image/0cc18084037004
The remastered looks sharper to me, also looks like a lot of grain has been removed.
Great image quality. Perfect for screencaps.
The review is good. They say it's like discover it for the first time. :D but this perfect image makes him lost his documentary style looking.
If you want me to translate more, tell me.
Here are some more that really show increased sharpness and detail and the removal of grain. I think I will be replacing my old Predator blu vary soon.
Old http://www.imagebam.com/image/d2a94184037017
Newhttp://www.imagebam.com/image/008fd184037009
Oldhttp://www.darkrealmfox.com/predator_MPEG2_2.png
Newhttp://www.darkrealmfox.com/predator1_New.jpg
Can we get comparisons with Predator pictures? Thanks. :)
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Jun 11, 2010, 10:34:03 AM
Great image quality. Perfect for screencaps.
The review is good. They say it's like discover it for the first time. :D but this perfect image makes him lost his documentary style looking.
If you want me to translate more, tell me.
It's all good for me man. I have translator programs and shit. but maybe for other people you know. But then again I am surprised this topic is not getting that many replies.
Over on http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/141479-predator-ultimate-hunter-edition-june-29th.html (http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-movies-north-america/141479-predator-ultimate-hunter-edition-june-29th.html) there is like a 45 page and growing discussion/ hardcore debating just on this new release. I have been so busy over there.
QuoteCan we get comparisons with Predator pictures? Thanks.
Unfortunately there is no screen caps of the predator just yet, but soon there will be.
The remastered version is very impressive
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Jun 14, 2010, 07:35:46 AM
The remastered version is very impressive
Check these comparisons out
http://www.imagebam.com/image/e23f5984389422
http://www.imagebam.com/image/8f5f0f84390995
That shot of Arnie's face looks like plastic but that is the only shot that looks like that from what I have heard.
Oh and the new remastered shots are on the left side.
The pic with the predator is also a second off, but you can still see there is a very slight difference. Plus a lot of grain is gone.
This one there is a lot of motion
http://www.imagebam.com/image/ede92584396457
It's really hard to tell but trust me the new one is a little better.
I'm watching it right now and the quality is incredible. its funny cause Dillion in the beginning looks so fake. Looks like he's been photoshoped.
Great to finally have good quality of this film with the tons of rereleases that happened. Should have been done long time ago.
Worth the pick up for sure.
any one know a more about the preview of predators ?
When Is this released. (Please excuse my noobyness haven't really been looking to think about purchasing this till now.)
It's released June 29th in the US and July 5th in the UK.
Oh thanks not to long to wait then.
Quote from: 369 on Jun 19, 2010, 01:44:02 AM
any one know a more about the preview of predators ?
It is the same as the behind the scenes feature we saw I believe. It is nothing new.
Really the quality of the picture is worth the pick up. Plus I think they give ticket to watch predators in theatre.
I watched half of it already and was waiting to see the helicopter part where then drop down in the jungle which is the worst quality of the film and I got to say this new Hunter edition looks perfect.
As a huge fan Im just as excited to re watch this movie right before I watch predators like I was planning to do long time ago. Im just glad I get to watch in great quality.
Quote from: bleau on Jun 19, 2010, 10:31:57 AM
Quote from: 369 on Jun 19, 2010, 01:44:02 AM
any one know a more about the preview of predators ?
It is the same as the behind the scenes feature we saw I believe. It is nothing new.
man .........what about the "Evolution of the Species: Hunters of Extreme Perfection" Featurette
Quote from: 369 on Jun 20, 2010, 01:11:42 AM
Quote from: bleau on Jun 19, 2010, 10:31:57 AM
Quote from: 369 on Jun 19, 2010, 01:44:02 AM
any one know a more about the preview of predators ?
It is the same as the behind the scenes feature we saw I believe. It is nothing new.
man .........what about the "Evolution of the Species: Hunters of Extreme Perfection" Featurette
That is a little over 11 minutes and it is Nimrod, RR, and I think John Davis interview. Mostly just talk.
But the picture looks great, I have the old blu and the new one looks a lot better so I am going to pre-order in a couple of days.
*sigh* I should get a Blu-Ray player. The comparison's look very noticeable.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 20, 2010, 09:28:30 AM
*sigh* I should get a Blu-Ray player. The comparison's look very noticeable.
Get one dude. Movies are a lot more immersive on Blu-Ray, that is if you got a good setup. If you got surround sound then all you need is the player. My dad does not have surround and the sound sucks, action scenes are extremely loud and dialog is hard to hear. If you got a center channel speaker you can adjust the volume on that channel to hear dialog real well, and still enjoy the surrounds. Plus the Alien Anthology comes out later this year too on Blu-Ray. Here is the dvd vs blu.
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Those Blu-ray captures are from the old Blu-ray, the new one looks even better.
Here's my little comparison (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/predator-blu-ray-comparison/) between the old bluray and the new version. It's a great release. Picture quality is fantastic.
That's awesome. I'll have to make sure I get one soon.
Quote from: Darkness on Jun 20, 2010, 03:16:46 PM
Here's my little comparison (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/predator-blu-ray-comparison/) between the old bluray and the new version. It's a great release. Picture quality is fantastic.
Thanks for the comparison, I'll have to put some cash aside for the 5th!
Kick-ass.
Surely will be one of my first blu-rays along with the Alien Tetralogy and some others.
Quote from: Darkness on Jun 20, 2010, 03:16:46 PM
Here's my little comparison (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/articles/predator-blu-ray-comparison/) between the old bluray and the new version. It's a great release. Picture quality is fantastic.
Thanks for that Darkness, very interesting. I wonder what John McTiernan thinks of this version? From what I gather, the director has to approve any new transfer of their film, but I wonder how he feels about certain scenes changing to a brighter contrast level. To me that is more significant than removing the grain, as it changes the "mood" of certain shots. Thoughts?
Quote from: DazAvP85 on Jun 21, 2010, 08:27:09 PM
From what I gather, the director has to approve any new transfer of their film, but I wonder how he feels about certain scenes changing to a brighter contrast level.
Really? I didn't know that they had to approve it. I don't think I've ever seen any interview with McTiernan talking about Predator since it came out.
Quote from: Darkness on Jun 21, 2010, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: DazAvP85 on Jun 21, 2010, 08:27:09 PM
From what I gather, the director has to approve any new transfer of their film, but I wonder how he feels about certain scenes changing to a brighter contrast level.
Really? I didn't know that they had to approve it. I don't think I've ever seen any interview with McTiernan talking about Predator since it came out.
Well, I'm only going on the basis they have to approve it because the producer of many of James Cameron's previous DVDs says that the reason The Abyss and True Lies haven't been released on Blu-ray yet is because he has to approve the HD transfers made of them, and that previously he hadn't had time because of his Avatar commitments. I presume the same approval process is true for everyone.
Also, there's "recent" interviews with McTiernan on the Predator Special Edition DVD remember ;)
That's different. I mean in written interviews. He never ever speaks about Predator.
Quote from: bleau on Jun 14, 2010, 10:20:44 AM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Jun 14, 2010, 07:35:46 AM
The remastered version is very impressive
Check these comparisons out
http://www.imagebam.com/image/e23f5984389422
http://www.imagebam.com/image/8f5f0f84390995
That shot of Arnie's face looks like plastic but that is the only shot that looks like that from what I have heard.
Oh and the new remastered shots are on the left side.
The pic with the predator is also a second off, but you can still see there is a very slight difference. Plus a lot of grain is gone.
This one there is a lot of motion
http://www.imagebam.com/image/ede92584396457
It's really hard to tell but trust me the new one is a little better.
Geez! That's so much better!!!!
I'm upgrading!
Could this be that I'm getting a blu - ray player only because of Predator? *sigh* It could be indeed.
QuoteWell, I'm only going on the basis they have to approve it because the producer of many of James Cameron's previous DVDs says that the reason The Abyss and True Lies haven't been released on Blu-ray yet is because he has to approve the HD transfers made of them, and that previously he hadn't had time because of his Avatar commitments. I presume the same approval process is true for everyone.
No as a matter of fact, only a few directors get complete control over everything, Nolan and Cameron are like the exception. I know that Cameron has it under contract. Most other directors don't have contracts like him.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Jun 22, 2010, 02:27:24 AM
Could this be that I'm getting a blu - ray player only because of Predator? *sigh* It could be indeed.
Discover da wurld of da haig definizions!
QuoteDiscover da wurld of da haig definizions!
Wurd, Dawg! ;D
Yeah I think the time has come *monumental music plays while I'm off to buy one*
Don't you mean Fox's Music? ;D
Anyway, even DvDs look gorgeus on my Blu-Ray Player.
Believe it, I have yet to buy a true Blu-Ray... :P
I will be without a doubt, printing out one of the foreign covers, if I got that ugly Hot Toys cover art.
Why not just import?
Just bought the ultimate hunter edition and i gotta say...stunning! The movie really looks fresh and new, almost no grain visible, some dirt and scratches are still visible but overall it looks really good. Nice colors also.
Good job Fox :)
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jun 25, 2010, 03:28:34 PM
Good job Fox :)
And about time too! Thanks for the heads up
Johnny Handsome.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jun 25, 2010, 03:28:34 PM
Just bought the ultimate hunter edition and i gotta say...stunning! The movie really looks fresh and new, almost no grain visible, some dirt and scratches are still visible but overall it looks really good. Nice colors also.
Good job Fox :)
I'll pick this up asap.
Word out on the interwebs is this new bluray is trash due to over application of DNR. Arnold supposedly isn't the only person who looks like a wax statue in this film. Sadly, it will probably be a while untill Fox gets their asses around to releasing it again. And thankfully, James Cameron has to approve the Aliens bluray, so that won't be getting DNR'ed to shit.
Hilariously, people on blu-ray.com have been referencing this thread talking trash about the people posting in it. XD
It doesn't look waxy at all, maybe 2 shots in the opening, and it also looks much better in motion. It's also that pretty much every professional review says that it looks quite good and definitially better than the old one. They not only removed the grain but all the dropouts, scratches etc. The whole print looks clean and fresh.
Yes, they used DNR, but why not? It looks clean and crisp without looking soft, better colors (Old one had a red touch and was pretty murky). It's an overall greater appearance. I'm a fan of this film since 15 years now, and this is definitially the best the movie has ever looked and will ever look, i wouldn't say it if i wouldn't mean it, I'm stunned by this release. Compare it with the old one, the opening shot is washed in grain and dropouts, the colors are lifeless...the new transfer, not a single scratch, not a single dropout, no grain.
People wanted a clean, remastered version of this movie on Blu? Here it is people. Do some scenes look a bit too soft? Yes they do, but that are the dark scenes that looked horrendous in the first place. This Blu_ray is a Win-Win situation.
Can't wait till Tuesday !!!!! :D
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jun 27, 2010, 03:08:22 AM
It doesn't look waxy at all, maybe 2 shots in the opening, and it also looks much better in motion. It's also that pretty much every professional review says that it looks quite good and definitially better than the old one. They not only removed the grain but all the dropouts, scratches etc. The whole print looks clean and fresh.
Yes, they used DNR, but why not? It looks clean and crisp without looking soft, better colors (Old one had a red touch and was pretty murky). It's an overall greater appearance. I'm a fan of this film since 15 years now, and this is definitially the best the movie has ever looked and will ever look, i wouldn't say it if i wouldn't mean it, I'm stunned by this release. Compare it with the old one, the opening shot is washed in grain and dropouts, the colors are lifeless...the new transfer, not a single scratch, not a single dropout, no grain.
People wanted a clean, remastered version of this movie on Blu? Here it is people. Do some scenes look a bit too soft? Yes they do, but that are the dark scenes that looked horrendous in the first place. This Blu_ray is a Win-Win situation.
I'm gonna wait for the official blu-ray.com review before I decide to buy this. Obviously, this release was a reaction to people complaining about the grain, but some grain on a film is fine. You should expect that in a cinematic experience. You can have better detail without people looking like wax statues.
Second point it looks like its been brightened up too much ala the old Halloween DVD and the Phantasm II DVD. Darkness is a big part of movies like this, so I want to see what the reviewer says about that. They should've done the smart thing and get the director of photography involved with the bluray, but Fox seems to think they can go cheap on the Predator franchise for whatever reason.
I'm so glad i waited for this edition and didn't buy the first Blu-Ray! Looks absolutely stunning.
Quote from: Maxwell on Jun 27, 2010, 03:37:14 PM
I'm so glad i waited for this edition and didn't buy the first Blu-Ray! Looks absolutely stunning.
This.
I wouldn't get excited. Something I read from someone else who has it:
QuoteIt IS worse. I've seen the disc and it's a total embarrassment. So much DNR has been heaped on the release the image looks totally filtered and completely unnatural. It's going to get absolutely slammed, and rightly so, by any critic who knows what they're talking about.
I realize the old disc wasn't anything to write home about either -- but this is worse. It's great for the supplements, and for $15 I can see fans still buying it, but for the movie itself...regrettably, the older BD is more satisfying
And this:
Quote"From the moment one's eyes spy the Twentieth Century Fox logo in all its soft, buttery ooze, it's obvious the film has been heavily scrubbed with massive amounts of DNR (there isn't a speck of grain in sight), and while edge enhancement hasn't been heavily applied, there's enough there for it to be unmistakable on several occasions. The shots that have always been soft now take on an added mushiness that's ugly and almost unwatchable"
Those guys are hardcore Blu-Ray fanboys who want nothing but perfection. For the average Joe Sixpack, they just want a good-looking movie and won't notice that stuff. I can see choosing the old version for nostalgia-sake. I mean I guess the grain adds to 80s feel of the movie but those guys are just complaining for the sake of it.
Quote from: Darkness on Jun 27, 2010, 06:53:40 PM
Those guys are hardcore Blu-Ray fanboys who want nothing but perfection. For the average Joe Sixpack, they just want a good-looking movie and won't notice that stuff. I can see choosing the old version for nostalgia-sake. I mean I guess the grain adds to 80s feel of the movie but those guys are just complaining for the sake of it.
Shouldn't the movie look like the director intended? What is with this bs about appeasing Joe Sixpack. Really, the general public shouldn't dictate how an old film looks. The movie is supposed to be gritty and dark. Dark lighting and some grain sets the tone of the film. It's not supposed to look like a f**king Paul W.S. Anderson videogame movie. F**k Joe Sixpack. Obviously, the old bluray was f**ked up for different reasons, but that doesn't mean we should be taking a trip to the wax museum with this bluray. Like I said, Fox should've gotten the director of photography involved. That's what Anchor Bay did for Halloween. It looks both amazing and true to the original intended feel of the film.
QuoteShouldn't the movie look like the director intended?
Yeah, I'm sure the director wants his movie to be
washed in grain, dropouts and errors and faces that are so red that they look burned. I mean why have a clean, even and colorful picture that looks fresh and new when you can have a bad print?
HD film grain, wow, that's a must have :P
Quotebut that doesn't mean we should be taking a trip to the wax museum with this bluray.
And that's the reason why i can't take any word of you seriously. You're going by one screenshot and start a rant here, i
own this blu-ray and i can tell you that it doesn't look waxy at all, one shot doesn't make a movie.
Stop talking BS. Also, no one forces you to buy it, if you like grain, dropouts and a generally bad print with an ancient mpeg 2 codec, go a head and buy the old one, it's
that simple. But until you have seen the new release and not a couple of compressed screenshots, please, stop complaining about it, because you're not in the position to do so. I had very mixed feelings when i bought it, but then i was blown away by it, so i'm talking out of experience.
QuoteIt's not supposed to look like a f**king Paul W.S. Anderson videogame movie.
I don't think anyone was talking about a video game?
Anyways I think this new version has more detail. I can tell easily. Not to mention the film is old. what do you expect it to look like? Go and take your little rant over to blu ray.com and you can argue with all the wannabe experts.
QuoteYeah, I'm sure the director wants his movie to be washed in grain, dropouts and errors and faces that are so red that they look burned. I mean why have a clean, even and colorful picture that looks fresh and new when you can have a bad print?
HD film grain, wow, that's a must have
Did you see this film in theaters? You sound like you have expert knowledge. The film used grainy film stock. It was the director's decision. The film should represent the intentions of the original film maker. If he didn't want it to look brightly lit and all smoothed out so some dorks would think their bluray player and HDTV was worth it, then it shouldn't look that way. Going back and changing a movie is stupid. It should appear like the original camera negative or as close as possible. And no this doesn't mean I prefer a shitty encoded Bluray. You're like saying it would be preferable to be hit in the nuts with a bat than a golf club. Both options aren't good.
QuoteAnyways I think this new version has more detail. I can tell easily. Not to mention the film is old. what do you expect it to look like? Go and take your little rant over to blu ray.com and you can argue with all the wannabe experts.
Yeah becuase predator nerds are superior to bluray nerds? The last Predator bluray was totally paned as one of the worst bluray releases ever, that's why they released this one as an over-reaction. Lets see how this plays out. I'm going to say this disc will get more hate than the last one.
QuoteYeah becuase predator nerds are superior to bluray nerds?
Did I say that? You need to read, understand my comment. Don't take it out of context and start putting in your own words. If you want to whine, argue and bitch, thats fine. But don't bring up all the technical details like experts would. No here really gives a shit!
The directors intent, the film stock used, whatever, most people do not care, they just want a film to look good on there TV's. You spend thousands of dollars for an HD setup, you want the picture of your favorite movie to look good right. I think most people will be happy with it. The biggest problem with the old one was the grain. I don't care that was the intention or because of film stock used, it was distracting in some scenes, Even people who like the old one complained about excessive grain.
did the old predator blu ray come with any features?
QuoteDid you see this film in theaters? You sound like you have expert knowledge. The film used grainy film stock. It was the director's decision. The film should represent the intentions of the original film maker. If he didn't want it to look brightly lit and all smoothed out so some dorks would think their bluray player and HDTV was worth it, then it shouldn't look that way. Going back and changing a movie is stupid. It should appear like the original camera negative or as close as possible. And no this doesn't mean I prefer a shitty encoded Bluray. You're like saying it would be preferable to be hit in the nuts with a bat than a golf club. Both options aren't good.
You're wrong on this. It's not like with todays movies where they choose to add grain as a stylistic choise, this movie is almost 25 years old now, it were technical
errors, errors that were now
fixed. You act like the whole movie looks different now, they didnt re-color correct it or anything, they removed the grain and dropouts, in some scenes that were murky they brightened it a bit, big deal! You act like the movie is totally different now and was destroyed without having seen it. So if anything, i'm more of an expert than you are on this.
I had 4 different VHS of this movie, 2 of them with very good picture quality, and never was the grain as excessive and never was the print as bad as on the DVD and first Blu-Ray. The opening shot with the helicopter looks like a 1940's movie with its errors and dropouts and scratches all over the place, it wasnt like that on VHS, why? Because the movie was fresh when they did the VHS prints and over the years the master was heavily attacked by dust and scratches, and you notice on the previously released masters. Now on the hunter edition it is the way it was intended to be. If anything, this Blu-Ray is the closest to the directors vision since 1988 when it was first released and was still fresh. The VHS was always brighter than the DVD too.
Buy it, rent it, do whatever you want,
but watch it first before you come here and talk a bunch of bullshit about it.
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did the old predator blu ray come with any features?
No.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jun 28, 2010, 07:14:59 PM
The opening shot with the helicopter looks like a 1940's movie with its errors and dropouts and scratches all over the place, it wasnt like that on VHS, why? Because the movie was fresh when they did the VHS prints and over the years the master was heavily attacked by dust and scratches, and you notice on the previously released masters. Now on the hunter edition it is the way it was intended to be. If anything, this Blu-Ray is the closest to the directors vision since 1988 when it was first released and was still fresh. The VHS was always brighter than the DVD too.
I agree with you. A few of the shots looked horrible on DVD. When I first bought it, not the two disc one, I was very surprised. Even Alien doesn't look bad, at least the quadrilogy version, and it's older. I am glad that they are going back and fixing the problems. It's not like they're doing a George Lucus with the original trilogy in my opinion. They're doing what the people did for the original Star Trek seasons for Blu-Ray, going back and cleaning things up to show what was originally intended. But anyways, I pre-ordered my copy from Amazon.com and will be getting it tomorrow. I only had the "basic" version on DVD and have never seen any bonus stuff before, so I know how I'll be spending my evening tomorrow. :)
Well, I just got the blu-ray and find it very good. Looks amazing! I don't get why people are making a big deal about it. 9/10 from me. :D
They didn't like the PQ that much. But, I am still buying it, I know I will like it.
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Predator-Blu-ray/11375/#Review
Just ordered it off amazon. One day shipping so should have it by tomorrow :) Looking forward to it.
Ekk might have to buy this. Any word on if they our going to do the same for predator 2.
im watching it right now outstanding picture quality and outstanding sound they did a great job with this blu ray !!!! :)
Quote from: MrBrokenTusks. on Jun 29, 2010, 10:53:05 AM
Ekk might have to buy this. Any word on if they our going to do the same for predator 2.
The P2 bluray already looks amazing. And it has plenty of extras. Don't see a re-release.
Oh. ;) Might get both together then, any word on if the alien one will have lost all grain. :)
Has anyone watched the sneak peak to Predators yet? How is it?
Quote from: MrBrokenTusks. on Jun 29, 2010, 10:57:36 AM
Oh. ;) Might get both together then, any word on if the alien one will have lost all grain. :)
The Predator 2 blu is a good buy. The only Alien that needs grain removed would be Aliens, I think. Alien looks good enough upscaled on my PS3. Considering how massive the Alien Anthology seems to be, I'd expect a good job.
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Jun 29, 2010, 11:00:27 AM
Has anyone watched the sneak peak to Predators yet? How is it?
thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb_gXARm730
NO WAY! omg, i was so excited for something new! Well thats lame :S
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Jun 29, 2010, 04:51:09 PM
NO WAY! omg, i was so excited for something new! Well thats lame :S
ya "
Predators: Sneak Peak (1080p, 1:44)
Director Robert Rodriguez talks about his vision for the upcoming film. "
and "
Predator: Evolution of a Species: Hunters of Extreme Perfection (1080p, 11:13)
Producer John Davis and filmmakers Robert Rodriguez and Nimrod Antal discuss Predator's lasting impact in this new featurette. (The rest of the bonus materials—with the exception of the Predators sneak peak—have been ported over from the 2-disc special edition DVD.)".
I don't know if this is a Best Buy exclusive, but I haven't seen it before.
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Quote from: Mikey on Jun 29, 2010, 09:16:03 PM
I don't know if this is a Best Buy exclusive, but I haven't seen it before.
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That... must be mines!
Quote from: Mikey on Jun 29, 2010, 09:16:03 PM
I don't know if this is a Best Buy exclusive, but I haven't seen it before.
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I am pissed now. I would have got that!
I doubt it is in the uk aswell but if it is I am cancelling my order and getting that bad boy. 8)
Definitely check Best Buy. I looked on their website for you guys, but it's not there. Even when I check their database. If I was still working there I would be more help.
But on a side note, the PQ on this disc is fantastic. That blu-ray.com review can suck it.
That collection looks awesome! Hopefully it will be available in several stores. Seems weird if a collection is exclusive to best buy.
Best Buy has a ton of exclusive little things like this box set. It's definitely not weird.
Quote from: Mikey on Jun 29, 2010, 09:50:52 PM
Best Buy has a ton of exclusive little things like this box set. It's definitely not weird.
I don't want to believe it. I need that box! :P (now that you mention it. It could be so... but still!)
I worked there for 4 years, they had plenty of little box sets for all kinds of franchises and such. I didn't see a BBY Exclusive sticker on this Predator Collection, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was exclusive.
oh well you can still buy the 2 DVDs separate. Still... would be cool to have the nice box also
I just got that 2 disc box set from Best Buy. There isn't any movie ticket inside. Am I the only one?
The ticket will be on the wrapping on the movie. It's behind the sticker that said $10.00 movie money inside. It's a code you have to redeem online.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xCzMtRkYX8
here is a review i found.
Quote from: Mikey on Jun 30, 2010, 04:17:57 AM
The ticket will be on the wrapping on the movie. It's behind the sticker that said $10.00 movie money inside. It's a code you have to redeem online.
Yeah that's not on the double pack. I feel a little cheated. Oh well.
God, all these covers suck so hard. They all used the Hot Toys figure...and while, it's a great figure...it doesnt look 100% like the Predator...plus you can see the damn joints on the cover. Good god....
WOW...this new disc looks FANTASTIC...very much worth the $14.99 I paid for it at Best Buy today. If the forthcoming Alien blu ray discs look anything like this one....WOW ;D
The new disc looks great for people who want their films to look artificial, plastic, and unnatural. I don't even have a blu ray player, but if I did, I'd stick with the 2008 release. Seriously, they totally destroyed the look of the original film, replacing the muted colors of the shady jungle with unnacceptably bright, vivid colors that look like shit. The nighttime shots are especially horrendous. This is even worse than the blue-green tinge Fox gave to Alien on the Quad release.
This disc is getting panned hard. Blu-ray.com gave it one star less for picture quality than the previous release. It's been DNR'ed to death like everyone has suspected:
QuoteWhen Predator debuted on Blu-ray in April 2008, on a 25 GB disc, it featured a relatively low bit-rate MPEG-2 transfer, prone to excessive noisiness and compression artifacts. While the film has never been a slick-looking production, and though the 2008 version was certainly the best the movie had looked on home video up until that time, there was an outcry from videophiles who felt it could look even better. The solution, really, was simple: do a remaster, use a less antiquated encode, a higher bit-rate, and put it on a 50 GB dual-layer disc. 20th Century Fox complied for this new Ultimate Hunter Edition, but unfortunately, they've must've taken complaints about the film's graininess/noisiness to heart, because they've also slathered this re-release with an ungodly amount of digital noise reduction. Now, this is bound to be controversial. The vocal minority of so- called "grain-haters" will praise this transfer because there's no longer any evidence that Predator was shot on film—it now has a bright, glossy, smeary, plasticized sheen that's as far from filmic as you can get. And, it should be said, about as far from how Predator is supposed to look as you can get. This is revisionist re-releasing at its worst, and most film collectors —who tend to want films to look as close to their original appearance as possible—are going to be severely disappointed. I know I'm going to get hate mail, but I can't conscionably give this transfer any higher than a 2/5.
The texture of the film's grain structure has been stripped entirely from the picture, obliterating the finest details in the process. Arnie's face looks like a candle wax stump, oily and smooth. Carl Weathers' mustache seems airbrushed onto his face. The jungle might as well be digitized. Even the 20th Century Fox logo that opens the film appears soft, under a thick coating of Gaussian blur. This is easily one of the worst abuses of DNR to hit Blu-ray yet. What's frustrating, then, is that in most other regards, this transfer could have been a massive improvement. What's the point of a higher bit-rate if you're just going to scrub away the film's texture? Yes, the transfer looks clean, ultra-colorful, and bright—a good deal brighter than the previous release—but it also looks unnatural, artificial, unnecessarily tampered with. The good news—if you want to call it that—is that black levels are solid, compression artifacts are absent this time around, and edge enhancement is nowhere near as prevalent or overzealous as it is in other DNR'ed-to-oblivion titles. None of this really matters, though, when you're watching an image that looks like it's been rubbed down with Vaseline. I suddenly feel the urge to pray for the fidelity of the Alien quadrilogy box-set being released later this year.
ive read alot of positive reviews on amazon.
But fair enough, that sucks.
It seems ill never get a nice looking 1080 predator.
I don't know, I'm OK with it. I don't know what parts they were talking about with Arnie's waxy face, was it the beginning? If so I don't see it being waxy, I just see a sweaty face that's dealing with the humidity. I treat it like a popcorn movie, which it originally was supposed to be, and I'm OK with it. Before it already had bad things in the DVD like the "special effect" rope or the weird 2d Arnie face that is clean but everything else had grain I think. I'll admit I would be more pissed off if they did this to something else like Alien. They should have done what the same people did for the Original Star Trek seasons, give you the OPTION to watch the "enhanced" or original versions. I think more people would have been happy if they went that route.
I just watched the Ultimate Blu-Ray and I gotta say, it is AWESOME! Gone are all the horrible, grainy shots, instead replaced by CRISP, CLEAR visuals. There is DEPTH to the picture now. A really nice upgrade to the 21st Century! If I want to watch the old, prehistoric looking version of Predator, I can just pop in the 2008 Blu-Ray. Will I ever again? Nope. THIS is the 1st prize version in my book.
Now lets hope Aliens gets the same treatmeant... although theres nothing they can do about Ripley's HAIRSTYLE! :D
Quote from: mattyc on Jul 04, 2010, 06:01:13 AM
Now lets hope Aliens gets the same treatmeant...
No, let's not. Grain is a natural part of film, it's what gives these movies their filmic quality. Remove the grain and it looks like a video game.
I've bought it this morning for the sake of having it in the collection, shall check it out and post some shots of it actually in action on my setup.
Just picked this up yesterday and loved every second of it. It was like watching the movie for the first time. I'm glad Fox did the upgrade because the film has never looked better. This the definitive print I think we'll ever get.
They need to release a version that respects the original look of the film. Not something to appease 12 year old AVP fans and jackoffs who only hate grain on their HDTVs but not in the movie theater.
I like it. There are things and people in the back ground I never even new were there and I've seen this film a lot! If you guys don't like it then watch the old one and quit telling us were stupid for liking to see sharp images. I laugh at you guys who put more stock in what some people say about it on bluray.com than checking out for yourselves. Your probably the same ones that liked the AVP movies until you read all the people complaining about them on here. Sounds a lot like sheep to me.
Quote from: PREDLLIT on Jul 06, 2010, 06:11:41 AM
I like it. There are things and people in the back ground I never even new were there and I've seen this film a lot! If you guys don't like it then watch the old one and quit telling us were stupid for liking to see sharp images. I laugh at you guys who put more stock in what some people say about it on bluray.com than checking out for yourselves. Your probably the same ones that liked the AVP movies until you read all the people complaining about them on here. Sounds a lot like sheep to me.
If they took the masters for Halloween and ran it through some stupid filter to brighten everything up a million times, you'd see a bunch of new crap you hadn't noticed before as well. But guess what? It wouldn't be Halloween anymore.
I trust other reviewers because they're going to be honest and not hype up something because they're fanboys. If they say it looks like Carl Weathers now looks like his mustache was painted on with a sharpie due to excessive DNR, I'm going to believe them. I'm not going to waste money on a shoddy product.
Quote from: J-Syxx on Jul 06, 2010, 03:42:03 AM
They need to release a version that respects the original look of the film. Not something to appease 12 year old AVP fans and jackoffs who only hate grain on their HDTVs but not in the movie theater.
Well you sound like a 10 year old jackoff, talking like that. Grow up!
Quote from: J-Syxx on Jul 06, 2010, 06:33:26 AM
Quote from: PREDLLIT on Jul 06, 2010, 06:11:41 AM
I like it. There are things and people in the back ground I never even new were there and I've seen this film a lot! If you guys don't like it then watch the old one and quit telling us were stupid for liking to see sharp images. I laugh at you guys who put more stock in what some people say about it on bluray.com than checking out for yourselves. Your probably the same ones that liked the AVP movies until you read all the people complaining about them on here. Sounds a lot like sheep to me.
If they took the masters for Halloween and ran it through some stupid filter to brighten everything up a million times, you'd see a bunch of new crap you hadn't noticed before as well. But guess what? It wouldn't be Halloween anymore.
I trust other reviewers because they're going to be honest and not hype up something because they're fanboys. If they say it looks like Carl Weathers now looks like his mustache was painted on with a sharpie due to excessive DNR, I'm going to believe them. I'm not going to waste money on a shoddy product.
Those reviewers blew a lot of it out of proportion. They took one scene, and said it was like that during the whole film.
This is what I said on AvPGalaxy's facebook page: "The scene where Dutch and Dillon are talking with the general at the beginning was a little iffy, but besides that I found the rest of the film looked great."
The rest of the film looks great. It really does, you should check it out for yourself before you judge what you haven't seen.
I get this one for my collection, and i love it really much. I gave my mum the dvd from P1 and P2 she loves that movies. I like the colors and the sound from that blue ray really much more! But thats my opinion
High Def Digest's Review is pretty negative. :(
"I'm sorry to say, the studio has actually made matters worse with this so-called "new" 1080p/AVC MPEG-4 transfer, retaining its original 1.85:1 aspect ratio."
"When that day finally comes — and hopefully, it will — we'll, of course, have yet another version of 'Predator.' But as long as it's done properly, we'll at last be given the film as it should've always looked rather than this presentation of wax figurines."
He gave the video quality a lower score this time around then on the first Blu-ray release.
Link: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/3429/predator_ultimatehunteredition.html
I bought it the last week, and the visual and sound quality were awesome! My girlfriend knows the movie but when she watched the blu-ray, she didn't know it was the first Predator, she though it was a new one (she didn't see Predator 2).
In some pics on the internet, looks like Scharzy is in wax lol, it's not that when you watch it. The picture is polished of all particules like if it was a modern movie.
I'm really happy of the change, knowing the old blu-ray version was more ugly than a dvd quality.
The bonus are the same of the dvd collector version + some documentary with Antal and Rodriguez.
I give it a 5+/5 ;D
Now I'm waiting the future bluray 3D version working with 3D Television :P
I found this combo pack that has The Ultimate Hunter Edition and Predator 2 on Blu-ray at Best Buy and I'm getting that for my birthday in September. It was only $30 so a pretty good deal.
Quote from: JediMasterGabe on Jul 15, 2010, 03:10:16 AM
I found this combo pack that has The Ultimate Hunter Edition and Predator 2 on Blu-ray at Best Buy and I'm getting that for my birthday in September. It was only $30 so a pretty good deal.
Could you link? I seached and no luck.
I got this 2 pack also. Love it! I only saw it in the store though not online. ;D
Quote from: Mikey on Jun 29, 2010, 09:16:03 PM
I don't know if this is a Best Buy exclusive, but I haven't seen it before.
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This is it, I took these when I was in the store, but I can't find them online as well.
I've been looking for this, but I guess I need to go to Best Buy lol I have the original Predator blu ray and Predator 2 blu ray...so if I can just get the Ultimate Hunter Edition on its own, cool.
Are you going to keep all your copies, or get rid of the original Predator Blu-Ray?
i bought the first predator bluray a few months back and 2 weeks ago, i bought the hunter edition with both. then, my stupid dog chewed up the predator 1 disc. so, a week later, my girlfriend felt bad so she went and bought the FIRST predator bluray. i told her i already have that one and that the dog chewed up the other one. she started crying and for some reason she took the wrapper off it too so i cant return it. this sucks.
Oh man. Well that sucks royally. But it seems she cares about u alot so just buy the new one urself or ask for it for ur b-day or whatever hehe
So is it worth it? I came close to buying it today but ended up going for Pred2 Blu-Ray instead. I'm kinda pissed because I just bought the vanilla Blu-Ray like a month ago and I already own the "definite edition" on DVD.
I bought it hell yes. I got the bluray boxset that included Predator 2 over at best buy on sale for $30. They also had the first AvP for only $15 (was never going to pay $30-35 for that crap.) And anyone who doesn't like the transfer is a overzealous tool, theirs nothing wrong with them removing the grain from the picture. So it looks new and not old who cares?? I know the movies is 23 years old. I don't need the grain to remind me.
Ok guys, I need help as I'm at work, it's payday, and I'm going to purchase Predator on blu-ray today. The problem is, I have a choice of 2, but I don't have time to read the whole thread and make up my mind which to get. I want the one with the best picture, and the best extras. Here are my choices:
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Or this one:
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Advices please :)
Second one.
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Or this one:
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Advices please :)
The Ultimate Hunter edition is the very definition of blu-ray. Marvelous quality. definitely go for it. Plus, it is filled with extras (the ones from the 2-disc set of the dvd release+something from rodriguez) , which the first release monstrously lacks.
Ok, jujt ordered that one. Hopefully it'll be here by tomorrow. Play.com are usually good like that though I guess :-\
What play.com take at least 5 days to deliver for me :( and yer the second one is the one that was released a couple of weeks ago so good choice.
Are you from the UK?
Yer.
Ah.
I've never used them before, but I'd heard they were very quick at delivering your stuff. Bollocks.
I've been using Play over 10 years. Since they were Play 357 (or something like that). I love 'em. Usually get the product within 3 working days.
That's a bit more reassuring then! :)
BTW: I'm thinking I may as well buy P2 while I'm at it. Any reccommendations on which version? Or is there just the one anyway?
It is probably because I usally order on a friday so the wait is longer because the don't deliver on weekends.
And there is only one version.
Quote from: Vulhala on Jul 28, 2010, 12:58:23 PM
That's a bit more reassuring then! :)
BTW: I'm thinking I may as well buy P2 while I'm at it. Any reccommendations on which version? Or is there just the one anyway?
Buy it, definitely. And there's only one version, but it has extras.
Quote from: Vulhala on Jul 28, 2010, 12:58:23 PM
BTW: I'm thinking I may as well buy P2 while I'm at it. Any reccommendations on which version? Or is there just the one anyway?
There is only one release so far, and I think it is pretty satisfying. The PQ is fantastic and a monstrous step over the DvD, plus there are interesting extras. Go for it, definitely. :)
any one wish they have waited for the "trilogy" pack? i am sure it will come out sooner or later.
*shrugs* it would have all 3 blu-rays imho
Quote from: DazAvP85 on Apr 22, 2010, 07:58:25 PM
I like the artwork! I wonder what's up with this "Extended Edition" label the Canadian Amazon site are giving it? I didn't think there was any real extra footage they could use (judging by the deleted scenes on the DVD)?
I got the Canadian edition and there was no new footage from what I saw. Same for P2.
I was in Asda yesterday and I noticed a new Predator DVD. It looks like a basic DVD with commentary and whatnot but with the new Blu-Ray cover. Was £3.
I finally managed to track down the Ultimate Hunter Blu ray today, I'm very happy about that. Can't wait to watch it & see the difference between this & the normal Blu ray version.
What differences did they say there were between the two?.
I finally had the chance to watch the Hunters Edition last night, and I have to say it look incredible. Aside from the one scene with Dillon at the beginning which everyone talks about (which wasn't even really that bad by the way) the transfer is superb. The film looked awesome.
And as much as I hate P2, I watched that aswell and the picture was really good. Could have been better in places, but it was definately much better than DVD. Sound was awesome.
The only bad thing about Blu-ray/HD is nitpicking DVD/Standard Def. afterwards lol.
OK does anyone know if it has a slipcase? Someone has just bought me this and I am getting this in a few hours? I am wanting Vulvuhla to answer though since we both have the same version (we are both in uk), and does predator 2 blu-ray have a slipcase? Cause if one does and the other doesn't my ocd will make me take of the slipcase. Unless they both have it.
Best Buy exclusive has slipcase, but it is a duo pack with P2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ5i78Ihmi4
harsh
Quote from: 85 on Jul 30, 2010, 02:28:53 AM
any one wish they have waited for the "trilogy" pack? i am sure it will come out sooner or later.
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TOLD YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:o
Quote from: 85 on Aug 17, 2010, 10:19:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ5i78Ihmi4
harsh
Is this guy high? They only looked waxy in two scenes out of the whole movie.
Finaly got around to watching the new Predator Hunter Edition Blu-ray.
Its well worth buying it again if you already have the previous version, Sell it on ebay or whatever.
The sound is MUCH better i had to turn my speakers down during gun fighting scenes. The picture is much better. Its not crystal clear as its still 23 years old but its still clear enough that Arnys 1 long right ear hair kept annoying me.
The title screen menu is decent too. Nice BGM and a slightly faded out compilation video in the background are good enough. Its not the easiest way to navigate in the special features but the fact there is alot of special features makes up for it.
One deleted scene that i think could of benefitted the movie was during the scene where Dutch is running through the forest shortly after being shot in the shoulder (after Billys death). Dutch is running away and hides in some forestry and he notices he is covered in spiders but he doesnt want to move to catch attention. Then we see Predators tri laser on the back of Dutch's head but because Dutch doesnt realise Pred decides to move the sights onto the tree in front of him and shoots the tree.
Id of loved that scene to of been in the movie to show some more of the "playing".
Those clips were badass, but putting them back in would screw up the pacing of Dutch's run and fall into the river. The pacing in that scene is perfect, anything more wouldn't work.
Not that those scenes weren't really interesting. I like to acknowledge them as peripheral events.
I agree the pacing is already perfect. But it just would of been a nice addition to the movie after 20 or so years.
But dont fix what isnt broken ect.
I kind of have in the back of my mind now when i watch the movie the scene thats missing
Yeah, I watch it the same way. I don't need to see it, but the meaning of the scenes, that the Predator is having fun screwing with Arnie, supports the rest of the movie.
Is the Lost Predator dance scene on any of the Blu-ray extras?.
Quote from: Forever Knight on Sep 11, 2010, 06:23:21 AM
Is the Lost Predator dance scene on any of the Blu-ray extras?.
From what I recall no, my P2 BR hasn't it.
I couldn't find it on mine either. Figured maybe it could have been an easter egg.
Quote from: 85 on Aug 17, 2010, 10:19:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ5i78Ihmi4
harsh
Quote from: 85 on Jul 30, 2010, 02:28:53 AM
any one wish they have waited for the "trilogy" pack? i am sure it will come out sooner or later.
http://images.play.com/covers/16057153x.jpg
TOLD YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry but what a tit!
He looks large enough to have his own, shakermakerman.
I love it when such a fat faggot makes a ranting video when he didnt even watched the movie and only based his opinion on one f**king screenshot.
Yes, one or two shots look a little waxy and they went over the top with the DNR, but 95% of the movie look crisp and clean, and there is still minimal grain left.
This is the version to buy if you want to see te movie in a tremendous quality.
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As you can see, they not only removed the grain, they also increased detail.
I really can't understand the massive criticism ths release is getting. It's an almost flawless restoration of the film, and it's one of the best blu-rays out there.
Haters.
Anyone be kind enough of sending me some screencaps, of the pred itself from this release,i would ask in the pred screen caps thread but I want some of the blu-ray. any ones of the pred would be good, I do own the blu-ray but my pc doesn't have a blu-ray drive.
I f**king loved the ultimate hunters edition! Thought it was great!
I might have to pick this version up this week....
The film looks great. The guy has no clue as to what he's talking about. As, Johnny said, it's waxy for like two shots.
to save starting a new thread, does the "trilogy" box set, definitely include the ultimate hunter ed of "Predator"
This Bluray is a disgrace to the film. Can't believe someone would praise something that has all the detail ripped out via heavy DNR just because of the fact you can't see any grain on the picture smeared with vasoline. Also the fact the movie has been brightened up a hell of a lot, destroying the lighting in this film that helps create mood and atmosphere. The fact there isn't any darkness anymore doesn't mean the picture is actualy better guys. The only place this Bluray hasn't gotten trashed is here, which isn't suprising honestly.
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 22, 2010, 07:38:49 PM
Can't believe someone would praise something that has all the detail ripped out via heavy DNR just because of the fact you can't see any grain on the picture smeared with vasoline.
The film
gained details, not the opposite. It is a godzilla-sized step-up from the DvD release.
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 22, 2010, 07:38:49 PM
Also the fact the movie has been brightened up a hell of a lot, destroying the lighting in this film that helps create mood and atmosphere.
...What?
The lighting is practically the same. Only some scenes are
slightly noticeably different in this department.
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 22, 2010, 07:38:49 PM
The fact there isn't any darkness anymore doesn't mean the picture is actualy better guys. The only place this Bluray hasn't gotten trashed is here, which isn't suprising honestly.
And where you base this assumption from...?
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 22, 2010, 07:38:49 PM
This Bluray is a disgrace to the film. Can't believe someone would praise something that has all the detail ripped out via heavy DNR just because of the fact you can't see any grain on the picture smeared with vasoline. Also the fact the movie has been brightened up a hell of a lot, destroying the lighting in this film that helps create mood and atmosphere. The fact there isn't any darkness anymore doesn't mean the picture is actualy better guys. The only place this Bluray hasn't gotten trashed is here, which isn't suprising honestly.
Look at these shots...
Before:
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The Blu-ray
added much more detail to the film. Look at Mac's face in the
Before, it's kinda hard to see. Now look at it the
After, you can even see the white in his eyes in the
After.
Plus those are scalled down to 720p and saved as a .jpg
Sums up what is wrong with this Bluray:
QuoteWhen Predator debuted on Blu-ray in April 2008, on a 25 GB disc, it featured a relatively low bit-rate MPEG-2 transfer, prone to excessive noisiness and compression artifacts. While the film has never been a slick-looking production, and though the 2008 version was certainly the best the movie had looked on home video up until that time, there was an outcry from videophiles who felt it could look even better. The solution, really, was simple: do a remaster, use a less antiquated encode, a higher bit-rate, and put it on a 50 GB dual-layer disc. 20th Century Fox complied for this new Ultimate Hunter Edition, but unfortunately, they've must've taken complaints about the film's graininess/noisiness to heart, because they've also slathered this re-release with an ungodly amount of digital noise reduction. Now, this is bound to be controversial. The vocal minority of so- called "grain-haters" will praise this transfer because there's no longer any evidence that Predator was shot on film—it now has a bright, glossy, smeary, plasticized sheen that's as far from filmic as you can get. And, it should be said, about as far from how Predator is supposed to look as you can get. This is revisionist re-releasing at its worst, and most film collectors —who tend to want films to look as close to their original appearance as possible—are going to be severely disappointed. I know I'm going to get hate mail, but I can't conscionably give this transfer any higher than a 2/5.
The texture of the film's grain structure has been stripped entirely from the picture, obliterating the finest details in the process. Arnie's face looks like a candle wax stump, oily and smooth. Carl Weathers' mustache seems airbrushed onto his face. The jungle might as well be digitized. Even the 20th Century Fox logo that opens the film appears soft, under a thick coating of Gaussian blur. This is easily one of the worst abuses of DNR to hit Blu-ray yet. What's frustrating, then, is that in most other regards, this transfer could have been a massive improvement. What's the point of a higher bit-rate if you're just going to scrub away the film's texture? Yes, the transfer looks clean, ultra-colorful, and bright—a good deal brighter than the previous release—but it also looks unnatural, artificial, unnecessarily tampered with. The good news—if you want to call it that—is that black levels are solid, compression artifacts are absent this time around, and edge enhancement is nowhere near as prevalent or overzealous as it is in other DNR'ed-to-oblivion titles. None of this really matters, though, when you're watching an image that looks like it's been rubbed down with Vaseline. I suddenly feel the urge to pray for the fidelity of the Alien quadrilogy box-set being released later this year.
No, it doesn't. The finest details haven't been obliterated - they were freaking improved; It isn't brighter by a long shot; It doesn't look artificial; it looks very natural instead.
Look at this (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=11375&position=1) shot. it is freakin' detailed and there isn't any kind of dirt, grain or blur.
If you're not happy with this blu-ray, no one forces you to buy it. Go back to the DvD version, if it is so much more detailed (?) and Carl Weathers' mustache doesn't look airbrushed (!).
The Blu-Ray.com reviewer, I'm sad to say this, relied too much on the original *flawed* look of the film, and the review misses the point of Blu-Ray itself - cleaning a film to make it the highest quality possible. Predator UHE is one of the best Blu-Rays I've ever seen.
That review is bullshit. The film looks incredible. No one has a gun to anyones head anyway. If you'd rather let someone else form your opinion without seeing it, then that's your choice. I'm more than happy with it.
Blu elites hate anything with the word 'de-grained' or 'DNR', so there are extremists on both sides. Predator UHE ain't no Gladiator debacle, which had objects disappearing onscreen. Fans be happy, others, let it go and move on, it's a frickin' disc, you will not be forced to purchase it.
Quote from: Valaquen on Sep 23, 2010, 12:20:11 PM
Predator UHE ain't no Gladiator debacle, which had objects disappearing onscreen.
What?
You mean the blu-ray erases elements from scenes?
EDIT: I'm reading the BR.com review, and it mentions disappearing objects.
Quote from: Valaquen on Sep 23, 2010, 12:20:11 PM
Blu elites hate anything with the word 'de-grained' or 'DNR', so there are extremists on both sides. Predator UHE ain't no Gladiator debacle, which had objects disappearing onscreen. Fans be happy, others, let it go and move on, it's a frickin' disc, you will not be forced to purchase it.
Actually, yes, Carl Weathers' moustache was removed. It then had to then be air-brushed back on.
QuoteThe Blu-Ray.com reviewer, I'm sad to say this, relied too much on the original *flawed* look of the film, and the review misses the point of Blu-Ray itself - cleaning a film to make it the highest quality possible. Predator UHE is one of the best Blu-Rays I've ever seen.
So the point of Bluray is removing grain to the point it makes the actors look like wax statues? Got it. Maybe they should just remake the entire film with CGI. I think you guys would be really impressed then.
QuoteThe film gained details, not the opposite. It is a godzilla-sized step-up from the DvD release.
You're using the wrong benchmark here. Blurays should be compared to VHS releases. Than the butter smeared picture will look even more "totally awe3some, I so hope they do this to Aliens in teh anthology guise! I love you Rupert Murdoch!"
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 25, 2010, 03:07:24 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Sep 23, 2010, 12:20:11 PM
Blu elites hate anything with the word 'de-grained' or 'DNR', so there are extremists on both sides. Predator UHE ain't no Gladiator debacle, which had objects disappearing onscreen. Fans be happy, others, let it go and move on, it's a frickin' disc, you will not be forced to purchase it.
Actually, yes, Carl Weathers' moustache was removed. It then had to then be air-brushed back on.
I don't see the connection between my post and your reply.
It's called sarcasm. We should put shields at full strength in case any more shit jokes come our way.
Quote from: Vulhala on Sep 25, 2010, 03:28:50 AM
It's called sarcasm. We should put shields at full strength in case any more shit jokes come our way.
Oh, just saw it. Damn, it's 4:30am, is what that is.
Got mah Stella shield up lol
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 25, 2010, 03:07:24 AM
Actually, yes, Carl Weathers' moustache was removed. It then had to then be air-brushed back on.
Source? Can't find a thing regarding this data.
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 25, 2010, 03:07:24 AM
So the point of Bluray is removing grain to the point it makes the actors look like wax statues? Got it.
Bah, the waxiness is a hatin', just like the A:R Aliens being turkeys.
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 25, 2010, 03:07:24 AM
Blurays should be compared to VHS releases.
They are always compared to dvds.
Than the butter semared picture will look even more "totally awe3some, I so hope they do this to Aliens in teh anthology guse! I love you Rupert Murdoch!"
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Quote from: OmegaZilla on Sep 25, 2010, 05:32:31 AM
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 25, 2010, 03:07:24 AM
Actually, yes, Carl Weathers' moustache was removed. It then had to then be air-brushed back on.
Source? Can't find a thing regarding this data.
Rupert Murdoch himself? In fact, he was so worried about the quality of this Bluray that he personally held the airbrush as it painted back on his stache. He's also the one who lathered Carl and Arnold's bodies with butter so they would look sexier for you guys.
Don't listen to him OmegaZilla. He's spewing bullshit faster than a cows' ass after laxatives.
I couldn't think of a reply to your post so I'm afraid a LOL will have to do. Fool.
At first, I couldn't find any data on Rupert Murdoch saying
anything about the Predator UHE. But at this statement
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 25, 2010, 03:44:24 PM
He's also the one who lathered Carl and Arnold's bodies with butter so they would look sexier for you guys.
I took on it was a load of bullshit... Didn't see BLAIN's post. Pal, yer' right.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Sep 26, 2010, 07:31:16 AM
At first, I couldn't find any data on Rupert Murdoch saying anything about the Predator UHE. But at this statement
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 25, 2010, 03:44:24 PM
He's also the one who lathered Carl and Arnold's bodies with butter so they would look sexier for you guys.
I took on it was a load of bullshit... Didn't see BLAIN's post. Pal, yer' right.
Good thing you did those hours of research to find out if Rupert Murdoch was personally involved with the remastering of this Bluray release including the air-brushing of Carl Weathers' mustache. I think you have to look harder though, because it is certainly true. By the way, can I have a chocolate from that box that's sitting next to you?
Because you good sir didn't give a shit about giving us a link.
If you did, we'd be done by now.
::)
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 26, 2010, 05:44:09 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Sep 26, 2010, 07:31:16 AM
At first, I couldn't find any data on Rupert Murdoch saying anything about the Predator UHE. But at this statement
Quote from: Biolante on Sep 25, 2010, 03:44:24 PM
He's also the one who lathered Carl and Arnold's bodies with butter so they would look sexier for you guys.
I took on it was a load of bullshit... Didn't see BLAIN's post. Pal, yer' right.
Good thing you did those hours of research to find out if Rupert Murdoch was personally involved with the remastering of this Bluray release including the air-brushing of Carl Weathers' mustache. I think you have to look harder though, because it is certainly true. By the way, can I have a chocolate from that box that's sitting next to you?
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Thank you, now I'll chuckle randomly for the next few days.
You must tell me where in the world you found that.
Too bad the Ultimate Hunter Edition doesn't retain the film grain. Only thing it has going for it are the extras and nothing else.
Hopefully I'll be banned too since I heavily prefer film grain over anything which looks like Avatar or Patton. Anyone ever watch the Blu-ray of DARK CITY or the USA release of Pan'S Labyrinth? Same thing happened with the Skynet Edition of Terminator 2.
http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/index.php?vergleich=predator_b1 (http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/index.php?vergleich=predator_b1)
For each image click on 1920x1080 Fullscreen Comparison. Yes i'm pro-film grain and anti-DNR.
This of course was shot on celluloid and not every movie should look the same to each other.
Original release for film grain retained image and UHE for extras.
Yep I expect a shitstorm. ;D
Last member was banned not because he expressed his opinion, but because he expressed it backing up his arguments with false data, and fundamentally, like an asshole.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Nov 28, 2010, 11:19:00 AM
Last member was banned not because he expressed his opinion, but because he expressed it backing up his arguments with false data, and fundamentally, like an asshole.
I can be an asshole too but I think in an entirely different way.
The UHE only has one new extra compared to the 2-Disc DVD. I'm just gonna go with the 2008 release. Maybe there'll be an exchange program where the image isn't plasticised and actually looks like film again. ;)
Quote from: AshleyJWilliamsIV on Nov 28, 2010, 04:49:48 AM
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For each image click on 1920x1080 Fullscreen Comparison.
I'd heard some horror stories about the close-ups during the opening scene, but I'd never actually realised how bad it would really look. Dillon looks like CGI, for chrissakes. :D
However, after looking at all the other image comparisons, the UH edition looks like a massive improvement. Details in the backgrounds are clearly ramped up, and it almost makes the older blu-ray appear to be of murky VHS-quality by comparison.
And I don't mind film grain in the slightest.
why is the last cap blue in the original BD and yellow in the UHE?
Quote from: AvatarIII on Dec 02, 2010, 10:38:31 AM
why is the last cap blue in the original BD and yellow in the UHE?
No idea but maybe different tinting processes?
I'm just gonna buy the 2008 release and stick it with the 2-Disc DVD. Already gonna do the same for RoboCop and some other films where I'm not going to get rid of the DVDs.
Especially goes for RONIN.
The UHE does have grain, it's just a very fine layer instead of the thick, blocky grain it was before, they not only removed that but also all the scratches and dirt on the master, with increasing detail. Watch it on your television and you'll see, it looks amazing. You can se all the sweat, pores on each actors face.
It looks like a brand new movie.
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QuoteI'm just gonna buy the 2008 release and stick it with the 2-Disc DVD.
That's cool, we heard you and your opinion on the new blu-ray, get over it.
^ That last comment wasn't really necessary. :-\
I generally like film grain to be retained, but some shots look better with the DNR. I picked up this version for $5 anyways so I ain't complaining too much. :D
What does this Blu-Ray version have that the DVD Collector's Edition didn't besides the better quality and the Predators movie preview?
The Predator UHE is the most overblown issue on the internet, at least in home media circles. Get past Carl Weather's 'tache and the rest of the movie looks very, very good.
I just watched this earlier on tonight, about half an hour ago I believe, and whilst the vast majority of the feature was absolutely astounding in picture quality some of the shots within some scenes didn't look as great as I expected them to. There were a few shots when the camera didn't look like it had focused in on anything, leaving the actors and scenery blurred, other times it appeared to focus on background rather than the character leaving it looking rather odd. Also, Dillon looked like CGI in the opening when the General is explaining the mission, both the General and Dutch looked crisp and clear but Dillon looked like a bad CGI effect. :D Fortunately these instances were only a few seconds long at least and probably about a minute at most.
Sound quality was fantastic and there were some small sounds that I have never noticed before when watching the movie, be it either a Predator click or a small jungle noise, it was a clear and great improvement over the DVD version. Some snippets of dialogue seemed noticeably more audible.
The movie looked absolutely brilliant and I have no other complaints, a fantastic transfer and highly recommended if you haven't already got it in your collection.
9.5/10
Quote from: predxeno on Dec 23, 2010, 04:54:14 AM
What does this Blu-Ray version have that the DVD Collector's Edition didn't besides the better quality and the Predators movie preview?
Nothing, to my knowledge.
Watched this for the first time a few days back. Yeah, it's not bad. At all. Only bits that stuck out at me as being plasticy was at the start during the briefing. Especially Dillion. But other than that I thought it looked great.
FYI everyone - I saw the Pred UHE BRD at wal-mart tonight for $10
Wow, that's cheap. :o
I've just check UHE and I must say it looks... AWFUL. Yes, there are some nice looking shots, but at the end of the day, it's waxy & plastic, whole cinematic feel of the movie was just killed. I will stay with my DVD.
The reason the characters look waxy is because of a number of reasons, other than the DNR. I believe make up, film location and directors shooting style are the culprit.
Arnold was smeared with Vasoline, including his face. R.G. Armstrong was covered with make up, because of his age.
"John McTiernan admitted that actor R.G. Armstrong was too old for his part, but kept Armstrong simply because he liked him. Added to this, the actor wore "too much" tanning makeup to hide his age somewhat."
It was filmed in the jungles of Palenque, Mexico. It was vary cold at night, and vary humid in the day. Running in a humid jungle = sweat. Sweat = oily skin.
I believe the opening sequence with Arnold, Weathers, and Armstrong were filmed from a far distance with the camera zoomed. Meaning a soft picture. I cant find the source for this, but will edit when I do later.
I heard the rumor that Carl Weathers mustache was airbrushed in. That is simply not true.
I think the UHE is a marvel in restoration. It's a shame the the Hi Def community blame DNR for the wax look of the actors. Maybe the film looks to new to some. But I assure that any doubts about loss of detail because of too much DNR is simply because there was not any detail to loose to begin with.
Reputable reviewers Gave poor rating on picture quality based on the use of DNR. I have seen DNR and know all about it. I don't know how the restoration was done, but fine detail is retained. If there is not enough detail in the actors faces, it was because of reasons above, which reviewers should have noted.
Film is altered all the time weather it be for removal of crew and equipment, or to fix effects. This film was altered simply because of heavy grain, and because the film looked dated. Does it look natural? No. Some scenes with the actors look unnatural but still has some nice scenes. The old disc looks natural because of the layer of grain. The old looks better in some scenes and the new one looks better in others.
QuoteI heard the rumor that Carl Weathers mustache was airbrushed in. That is simply not true.
It's not true because it wasn't airbrushed, it only looks like it was in UHE :P
Quote from: Gieferg on Mar 18, 2011, 06:58:10 PM
QuoteI heard the rumor that Carl Weathers mustache was airbrushed in. That is simply not true.
It's not true because it wasn't airbrushed, it only looks like it was in UHE :P
I know LOL ;D
There are a handful of shots, in one scene, that look terrible. But the rest of the movie is gorgeous. It's like the reviewers only watched the first three minutes before reaching a verdict.
A lot of HD nuts are surprisingly elitist. I'm over at the Blu forums and whilst the majority of people are great, there are some who like to be very vocal and antagonistic, but hey, dat's teh internets. And yeah, the actors were smeared in oils, vaseline, whatever, so ... but sometimes you read a review and think, "That's not right." What can you do, eh?
I know what I'm doing - waiting for Fox to take another stab at it (most likely alongside Predators 2), with a third transfer which will hopefully get it just right and please everyone in the process. I know there's a solid chance it won't happen, but this disc has received so much bad press that Fox have got to at least be thinking about it.
Until then I'm sticking with the DVD.
i just ordered UHE for £6.99 at play.com, i also found the original P1/P2 BD box set (i really liked the cover) preowned for £9 so i bought that too, and at some point i will compare the movies.
Quote from: AvatarIII on Apr 05, 2011, 12:32:55 PM
i just ordered UHE for £6.99 at play.com.
Score. I payed £16 for mine >:(
yeah i know, generally i consider a BD under about £8 a bargain, if it's a moie i actually want that is, so £6.99 was great
I just got this in the mail from Amazon today. Will report back with my thoughts on the new transfer.
MOD:
Really really unbalanced. The whole film needs to be rescanned like Alien and Aliens. There's no excuse for shots near the beginning looking like vaseline is smeared on the lens. Some shots really make the characters look waxy. No way that's the makeup because in most shots they look absolutely fine. There's a close up of Richard Chaves that looks like his makeup's been adjusted.
It just needs to be rescanned, simple as that, not digitally touched up to this extent. That's just lazy.
Well you also have to remember, they only put out this edition to cash in on 'Predators' when it first came out. I don't think they were thinking of the quality or of us except how much dough we would fork over for this.
picked this up at my local Walmart for $7.88. wasn't bad deal at all. now to track down P2 on Blu, maybe with Predators.
Quote from: steelio2006 on Feb 14, 2013, 04:53:02 PM
picked this up at my local Walmart for $7.88. wasn't bad deal at all. now to track down P2 on Blu, maybe with Predators.
Speaking of WalMart, I saw Predator 2 Blu-Ray in the $7 bin there about a week ago. Just keep digging to the bottom.
Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 12, 2013, 03:06:32 AM
Well you also have to remember, they only put out this edition to cash in on 'Predators' when it first came out. I don't think they were thinking of the quality or of us except how much dough we would fork over for this.
Great point. The name Ultimate Hunter Edition already sucks me in, I'm glad I read this forum because it sounds like there are some flaws, still skeptical on getting
lol didn't realize it was last discussed on feburary of 2013, my apologies, but still skeptical of buying!
Is there a Predator and Predator 2 Blu ray that has the digital copy to watch on any device available?