Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Feb 26, 2015, 08:18:19 PM
QuoteIf PROMETHEUS is canon - why can't A:R be canon?
Because Prometheus is a film by Ridley Scott, and despite past mistakes, some people (maybe even FOX) still see him as a legend.
So are the directors of the last two films.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Feb 26, 2015, 07:06:27 PM
Just because they will retcon Alien3 and Resurrection doesn't guarantee that Blomkamp's film will be better than the films it's disregarding. In my opinion, Alien3 is, overall, a better film than Prometheus....and the current plan for Blomkamp's Alien film is that will tie into the Prometheus sequel. I'm not too comfortable with that.
Ridley Scott wasn't entirely successful at executing his "big ideas" into his last sci-fi epic and I was glad when he admitted that it was a separate story that only shared the same universe as Alien. Now that seems to be changing. Blomkamp said he already imagined this film as a "genetic sequel" to Alien and Aliens. He may have to defend his vision for that film against the likes of Scott that is still looking for a way to make Prometheus more accepted. If that happens, I hope that Blomkamp has it in him to fight Scott in a more effective way than Fincher took on Fox. :-/
^^^THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING PEOPLE ARE NEGLECTING TO REALIZE.
Those in favor of the retcon are ASSUMING this will produce a film that is AS GOOD AS ALIENS or at least ON PAR with ALIEN and ALIENS.
Lets think about this:
We have a good director. Neil Blomkamp.
Alien 3 had David Fincher and fantastic screenwriters. Like 15 of them.
A:R had Jean Piere Jeunet and Josh Whedon!!! Both fantastic directors/writer.
PROMETHEUS had Ridley Scott return and fans hate that film. Many of you are the ones in favor of this Retcon.
So - the mistake you are making is assuming that because Neil Blomkamp may want to ignore A3 and A:R that this will guarantee a better film than A3.
Not how it works. You just don't get a continuation of Aliens that simply makes a great film because they don't kill Hicks.
A3 is evidence as to why a retcon isn't a good idea. Because you can have the greatest people attached and still people will not like the soup they make.
But you want to take that risk, just to see Hicks?
Alien 5 as a retcon does not in any way guarantee a better film than A3. If you hate ALIEN3 and love Prometheus (unlikely in my experience) then maybe I can see why you think so...
For me I'd rate it like this:
Alien - 10
Aliens - 10
Alien 3 - 8
Prometheus - 7
A:R - 6.5
AVP - 4.5
AVP-R - 2.