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Title: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 02:03:52 PM
Apparently, there's an article about AvPR (and some pictures) in this month's Empire Magazine. Anybody got any more details/scans?

Cover:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.empireonline.com%2Fimages%2Fcover%2Flarge%2F2222.jpg&hash=b26675cb9243833fbbdce172abf857aca0dd5753)
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: War Wager on Oct 27, 2007, 02:07:06 PM
I'm hitting the town later on, I'll see if I can find it and scan it.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 03:38:08 PM
Going down to the shops. I don't have a scanner but I write the text up here for you all too see it.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 03:40:44 PM
Here's some stuff from the Empire website about the Predalien:

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=21340 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=21340)
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: WisePredator on Oct 27, 2007, 03:45:24 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 03:40:44 PM
Here's some stuff from the Empire website about the Predalien:

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=21340 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=21340)
Not even Empire likes it :D
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Gates on Oct 27, 2007, 03:46:16 PM
"Really, he looks a bit rubbish, like a horrific version of the Play Doh Mop Top Hair Shop."

:D

Fu<king priceless...
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: Gates on Oct 27, 2007, 03:46:16 PM
"Really, he looks a bit rubbish, like a horrific version of the Play Doh Mop Top Hair Shop."

:D

Fu<king priceless...

Haha. Yeah.

If they got rid of those dreads alone, the design would be sooooo much better.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Gates on Oct 27, 2007, 03:50:27 PM
Just for that statement alone, Empire just scored a 1 year subscription from me...
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: brad873 on Oct 27, 2007, 04:03:59 PM
i think that spyro film it was talkin about is gonna be a better film
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Oct 27, 2007, 04:13:40 PM
Quote from: brad873 on Oct 27, 2007, 04:03:59 PM
i think that spyro film it was talkin about is gonna be a better film

Why is spyro geting his own movie? Spyro die after Insomniac Games sold the series.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: War Wager on Oct 27, 2007, 04:28:31 PM
Got it. Theres no new pics apart from two small ones of Kelly aiming a gun out the chopper door and Kelly and Molly running in the rain. They're too small to be scanned.
_________________________________________________

Once again, those Aliens and Predators are tearing up humanity's home turf. But this time, we're promised, they'll be turning Planet Earth into...

PLANET TERROR

"I've heard Ridley Scott in interviews that with Alien he took an A-movie approach to a B-movie monster film. Our take on this movie is to get back to the gritty, horror roots of Alien and the classic mission-movie aspects of Predator." So says Greg Strause, co-writer-director (with brother Colin) of Aliens Vs.Predator: Requiem, the, it must be said. less-than-eagerly awaited sequel to 2004's Alien Vs.Predator. That prequel/sequel/spin-off/video-game adaption contrived, in it's unconscionable silliness, to soil the legacy of two inconic movie monsters at once. In light of that singular acheivement, one might fancy a whiff of hubris in Strause's invocation of Ridley Scott and his unalloyed 1978 masterpiece. What can AVP2 possibly offer other than a futher instalment of the AVP dabacle, which featured the titular terrors getting there freak on in a pre-Aztec pyramid underneath the North Pole (you heard) as part of a Predator rights-of-passage-thrill-kill ritual while the D-list likes of Lance Henrickson (veteran of Aliens and Alien 3) got caught in the crossfire? Well, if Strause is to be beleived, quite a lot actually.

First of all, the Strause brothers' inter-species bust-up vert sensibly jettisons the Rider Haggard-meets-The-Crytal-Maze trappings of AVP for present-day smalltown USA. It also enlists the services of original Texas Chainsaw Massacre cinematographger Daniel Pearl and - even more sensibly - ramps up the chest-bursting, acid-blood-spurting carnage. "Yeah" grins Strause, "people aren't going to be expecting what they're going to see." And has the official sanction to back that up. "Tom Rothman (20th Centuary Fox co-chairman) announced in an interview recently that this is going to be an R-rated hardcore horror movie. I think that's rteally going to set it apart from the first one (which was a wussy PG-13). Daniel is bringing an incredible look and style to the film, an we have plenty more suprises up our sleeve..."

Of course, a few weeks into principal photography, when Empire speaks to Strause & Co. On location in Canada, no-one is at liberty to divulge what those suprises might be. All concerned - Strause in particular - is playing it very close to the vest. "I really can't comment on that" becomes something of a mantra for Strause when pressed for dtails of any kind. What can be gleaned is that the action takes place in an anonymous Colorado town that - for reasons connected or otherwise to the revelation in AVP that Predators are breeding Aliens to hunt - has become overrun with the acid-slobbering, insectoid killing machines. And, in this time-honoured fashion, the local residents must band together to survive. Whether or not a Predator enters the fray to rid the town of it's deadly infestations is open to question.

Certainly nobody here, freezing their metaphorical nuts off in a drab Vancouver mini-mall that's flooded with artificial rain, is giving the game away. "Sorry, I can't really comment on that," mutters Strause for the nth time when asked if he can confirm rumours of a Predator-Alien hybrid - despite the fact that we glimpsed the 'Predalien' at AVP's end. "I wouldn't bet on it," he says with a unusual candour when quizzed on the possibility of a Sigourney Weaver cameo. Steven Pasquale (Rescue Me, Six Feet Under) is rather more forthcoming. "I guess I play the reluctent hero," he says. "Dallas Howard; he's this ex-con returning to his home-town to keep an eye on his baby brother when all hell breaks loose. He's only been home for a few hours when the craziness ensues. By the time we get to the action, our gang is looking to him for some leadership. But it's all about getting out alive: he's pretty self-motivated."

Okay, so far, so formula. The cast is rounded out by Reiko Aylesworth (24, The West Wing) as the mother of six year-old daughter Molly (played by Ariel Gade): John Ortiz (Maimi Vice) as the beleagured local sheriff: and Johnny Lewis (The O.C.) as Dallas' wayward kid brother. It's not exactly a Fellin-esque ensemble of characters and, despite the solid talent, there is a notable lack of even lack of even Lance Henrickson calibre names.

Strause denies that the low star-wattage reflects the films slender budget. "We wanted to go with very good actors. If you look at our cast, a lot of them have very strong theatre backgrounds; the entire cast is made up of very strong actors. And opposite them are two of the greatest monsters in cinema history, so we're pretty happy about the entire cast."

And judging by 24 year-old Lewis' reaction at least, the cast themselves seem pretty happy too. "The Alien and Predator movies were so f**kin' cool," he enthuses. "There's a part of you that takes your craft very seriously, you study all the great filmmakers, the great actors. And there's a part of you that just wants to kill shit. "This is a movie that truly demands good acting," he continues, "but at the same time it's Alien Vs. Predator 2. The intent is awesomeness - not some deep existentialist statement about the human condition" These could quite possibly be the wisest words spoken on a movie set since Steven Speilberg said to Harrison Ford, "Okay, when the boulder starts rolling, run like f**k!" 

"We're all going to be upstaged, "laughs Pasquale. "But I cam in with that expectation. And it's fun. It's not all CG - we're acting with a lot of 'live' Aliens and Predators, which really help a performance. Like tonight, we're in icey rain so it's hard to act anything other than cold. It feels real, the way they light up the creatures and the way they slime them up. It's a throwback to my childhood when I pooped my pants at the second Alien movie." Literally? "Literally." "I did think about it long and hard before I signed on," says a shivering Aysleworth, edging closer to a space heater after repeating takes in the rain. "I wanted to make sure it was a good script before I commited. And as soon as I read it I went after it. I don't want to get too heavy because it's just fun, but I think the best sci-fi movies are metaphors for something. This movie has all the fun popcorn elements, but it also has a deeper metaphor." Which is? "I can't tell you that!" (Hmm, alien invaders = Al Qaeda/Iraq/Katrina?)

As far as the real stars of the show go, their credentials are impreccable. Amalgamated Dynamics is handling all the non-CG creatures effects. The company comprises Tom Woodruff and Alec Gillis, who have been performing as the Alien since James Cameron's Aliens in 1986. "Tom helped sculpt the Alien suit for Aliens," says Strause. "These guys have been involved with these creatures for a very long time; they're experts." Most of the special effects will be state-of-the-art man-in-a-suit rather than CG, a definite plus for purists. "Colin and I come from a visual effects background," says Strause. "We own a company that does CGI (Hyrdreaulx), but to get back to horror roots, nothing beats doing stuff in camera. We're making every effort to do all the effects in-camera where possible."

And told, despite the stoic tight-lippery and the fact that the only glimspe of an Alien or a Predator Empire is afforded is of Tom Woodruff wearing a slimeless and hence, unconvincing Alien head, AVP 2 could well be a tidy little creature-feature drawn along classically simple lines with two of fantasy-horror cinema's most enduring icons doing what they do best: killing shit, to borrow Johnny Lewis' eloquent phrase. Plus the added bonus of bathfuls of gore. "I'll refer you to Tom Rothman's use of the word 'hardcore'," says Strause...

Released
: January 18
Budget: $40 million (estimated)
Directors: Colin Strause, Greg Strause
The main selling point?: It's aimed at an adult audience.

HISTORY OF VIOLENCE
The AVP Timeline

2997 BC: Predators first arrive on Earth, where the natives build a pyramidal temple in their honour in Antartica. Aliens are introduced as prey for Predator coming-of-age rituals. AVP

1715: While hunting human prey, a Predator takes a souviner in the form of an old flintlock pistol, which will later find it's way to Danny Glover. PREDATOR 2

1987: A Predator begins a hunt in the jungles of Central America, only to be killed by a falling log courtsey of Major 'Dutch' Schaeffer of the US Special Forces. PREDATOR

1997: A Predator stalks downtown LA. After wiping out a drug gang, numerous police officers and half as train of cilivians, he's gutted by LAPD Lt. Mike Harrigan. PREDATOR 2

2004: An archeological team discovers the Antartic temple, filled with Alien eggs. The Predators return and a battle royale breaks out. One human and one Predator survive. AVP

2007: A Predator ship carrying Alien eggs crashes outside a small US town. Townsfolk are impreganted, chaos ensues and an elite Predator is sent to the clean up the mess. AVP REQUIEM

2122: Mining vessel Nostromo answers a distress call on planet LV-426. A ship containing Alien eggs is discovered and the outbreak leads to the deaths of the crew. Ellen Ripley is the sole survivor. ALIEN

2179: Contact is lost with a human colony on LV-426. A marine detachment and Ripley investigate, eliminating the Alien investation. Ripley, two other survivors and the mission synthetic survive. ALIENS

2179: The ship's EEV crash-lands on penal colony Fiorina 161, Ripley is the only survivor. A subsequent Alien outbreak causes numerous fatalitles. Ripley - now impreganted - commits suicide. ALIEN 3

2381 (approx): Ripley is cloned, allowing the repliaction of Alien DNA. An outbreak occurs on the USM Auriga. A small craft, The Betty, escapes with the surviving crew and the Ripley clone. ALIEN RESURRECTION
_________________________________________________
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: brad873 on Oct 27, 2007, 04:37:53 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Oct 27, 2007, 04:13:40 PM
Quote from: brad873 on Oct 27, 2007, 04:03:59 PM
i think that spyro film it was talkin about is gonna be a better film

Why is spyro geting his own movie? Spyro die after Insomniac Games sold the series.

i read somewere they think it is going to be very succesfull. i liked the spyro games, but im not sure if a movie is going to work
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: REYALS on Oct 27, 2007, 04:41:23 PM
 To hell with those damn people! I think the PREDALIEN looks cool. What, does it have to look like every other XENOMORPH ever designed?
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: pred_alien on Oct 27, 2007, 04:44:27 PM
predalien looks very good and very well put together
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 04:49:29 PM
The predalien looks awesome, they dont know anything about these franchises anyway.
Shitheads.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Xenomorphine on Oct 27, 2007, 04:55:14 PM
Quote from: Gates on Oct 27, 2007, 03:46:16 PM
"Really, he looks a bit rubbish, like a horrific version of the Play Doh Mop Top Hair Shop."

:D

Fu<king priceless...

Heh! Oh dear... Probably not the sort of media reaction the studio was looking for. :)

Quote from: REYALS REIGN on Oct 27, 2007, 04:41:23 PM
To hell with those damn people! I think the PREDALIEN looks cool. What, does it have to look like every other XENOMORPH ever designed?

Nobody's saying it should. There are, however, some very obvious problems with it, which should have been fixed in the pre-production stage. The thickness of the tendrils and, most especially, making the jaws look as if they're part of the actual mouth, instead of situated way off to each side. As frustratingly bizarre as the dreadlocked stuff was, the whole point of the Predalien was the mandibles. They should have looked superb, but instead they look superfluous.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 04:59:49 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 04:49:29 PM
The predalien looks awesome, they dont know anything about these franchises anyway.
Shitheads.

Yes. Yes they do.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 04:59:49 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 04:49:29 PM
The predalien looks awesome, they dont know anything about these franchises anyway.
Shitheads.

Yes. Yes they do.
I disagree.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 05:10:42 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 04:59:49 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 04:49:29 PM
The predalien looks awesome, they dont know anything about these franchises anyway.
Shitheads.

Yes. Yes they do.
I disagree.

They're probably one of the only respected movie reviewing magazine that gave Predator 2 a decent review. You know, Predator 2, the film which you worship.

I would have thought that alone would have you loving the mag.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 05:12:43 PM
QuoteThey're probably one of the only respected movie reviewing magazine that gave Predator 2 a decent review
Really, what did they say?
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 05:15:15 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 05:12:43 PM
QuoteThey're probably one of the only respected movie reviewing magazine that gave Predator 2 a decent review
Really, what did they say?

Gave it 4/5.

Said it wasn't as good as Predator, but it was good enough. They liked all the new aspects of the Predator's character and the new weapons, the ship etc etc.

Something around those lines.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 05:17:58 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 05:15:15 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 05:12:43 PM
QuoteThey're probably one of the only respected movie reviewing magazine that gave Predator 2 a decent review
Really, what did they say?

Gave it 4/5.

Said it wasn't as good as Predator, but it was good enough. They liked all the new aspects of the Predator's character and the new weapons, the ship etc etc.

Something around those lines.
Wow, i didnt knew that, i thought it was one of those magazines that hates everything besides Alien and Aliens.
I said nothing then, thx for the info.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 05:19:01 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 05:17:58 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 05:15:15 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 05:12:43 PM
QuoteThey're probably one of the only respected movie reviewing magazine that gave Predator 2 a decent review
Really, what did they say?

Gave it 4/5.

Said it wasn't as good as Predator, but it was good enough. They liked all the new aspects of the Predator's character and the new weapons, the ship etc etc.

Something around those lines.
Wow, i didnt knew that, i thought it was one of those magazines that hates everything besides Alien and Aliens.
I said nothing then, thx for the info.

Haha, no problem.  ;)
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 05:36:16 PM
Thank you for typing the article War Wager.
Im looking forward to the rest, but take some break first ;)
It was pretty long, good job.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: PRAETORIAN MONSTER on Oct 27, 2007, 06:53:06 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 03:40:44 PM
Here's some stuff from the Empire website about the Predalien:

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=21340 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=21340)

"And the name's never really struck fear into our hearts, sounding more like a rather pretty wild flower than an evil killing machine."
huh?   predalien is awesome and always has been awesome.  this guy's opinion means NOTHING to me.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: War Wager on Oct 27, 2007, 08:15:03 PM
Quote from: War Wager on Oct 27, 2007, 04:28:31 PM
Got it. Theres no new pics apart from two small ones of Kelly aiming a gun out the chopper door and Kelly and Molly running in the rain. They're too small to be scanned. Well, here I go theres a lot to type (be a few munites)

_________________________________________________

Once again, those Aliens and Predators are tearing up humanity's home turf. But this time, we're promised, they'll be turning Planet Earth into...

PLANET TERROR

"I've heard Ridley Scott in interviews that with Alien he took an A-movie approach to a B-movie monster film. Our take on this movie is to get back to the gritty, horror roots of Alien and the classic mission-movie aspects of Predator." So says Greg Strause, co-writer-director (with brother Colin) of Aliens Vs.Predator: Requiem, the, it must be said. less-than-eagerly awaited sequel to 2004's Alien Vs.Predator. That prequel/sequel/spin-off/video-game adaption contrived, in it's unconscionable silliness, to soil the legacy of two inconic movie monsters at once. In light of that singular acheivement, one might fancy a whiff of hubris in Strause's invocation of Ridley Scott and his unalloyed 1978 masterpiece. What can AVP2 possibly offer other than a futher instalment of the AVP dabacle, which featured the titular terrors getting there freak on in a pre-Aztec pyramid underneath the North Pole (you heard) as part of a Predator rights-of-passage-thrill-kill ritual while the D-list likes of Lance Henrickson (veteran of Aliens and Alien 3) got caught in the crossfire? Well, if Strause is to be beleived, quite a lot actually.

First of all, the Strause brothers' inter-species bust-up vert sensibly jettisons the Rider Haggard-meets-The-Crytal-Maze trappings of AVP for present-day smalltown USA. It also enlists the services of original Texas Chainsaw Massacre cinematographger Daniel Pearl and - even more sensibly - ramps up the chest-bursting, acid-blood-spurting carnage. "Yeah" grins Strause, "people aren't going to be expecting what they're going to see." And has the official sanction to back that up. "Tom Rothman (20th Centuary Fox co-chairman) announced in an interview recently that this is going to be an R-rated hardcore horror movie. I think that's rteally going to set it apart from the first one (which was a wussy PG-13). Daniel is bringing an incredible look and style to the film, an we have plenty more suprises up our sleeve..."

Of course, a few weeks into principal photography, when Empire speaks to Strause & Co. On location in Canada, no-one is at liberty to divulge what those suprises might be. All concerned - Strause in particular - is playing it very close to the vest. "I really can't comment on that" becomes something of a mantra for Strause when pressed for dtails of any kind. What can be gleaned is that the action takes place in an anonymous Colorado town that - for reasons connected or otherwise to the revelation in AVP that Predators are breeding Aliens to hunt - has become overrun with the acid-slobbering, insectoid killing machines. And, in this time-honoured fashion, the local residents must band together to survive. Whether or not a Predator enters the fray to rid the town of it's deadly infestations is open to question.

Certainly nobody here, freezing their metaphorical nuts off in a drab Vancouver mini-mall that's flooded with artificial rain, is giving the game away. "Sorry, I can't really comment on that," mutters Strause for the nth time when asked if he can confirm rumours of a Predator-Alien hybrid - despite the fact that we glimpsed the 'Predalien' at AVP's end. "I wouldn't bet on it," he says with a unusual candour when quizzed on the possibility of a Sigourney Weaver cameo. Steven Pasquale (Rescue Me, Six Feet Under) is rather more forthcoming. "I guess I play the reluctent hero," he says. "Dallas Howard; he's this ex-con returning to his home-town to keep an eye on his baby brother when all hell breaks loose. He's only been home for a few hours when the craziness ensues. By the time we get to the action, our gang is looking to him for some leadership. But it's all about getting out alive: he's pretty self-motivated."

Okay, so far, so formula. The cast is rounded out by Reiko Aylesworth (24, The West Wing) as the mother of six year-old daughter Molly (played by Ariel Gade): John Ortiz (Maimi Vice) as the beleagured local sheriff: and Johnny Lewis (The O.C.) as Dallas' wayward kid brother. It's not exactly a Fellin-esque ensemble of characters and, despite the solid talent, there is a notable lack of even lack of even Lance Henrickson calibre names.

Strause denies that the low star-wattage reflects the films slender budget. "We wanted to go with very good actors. If you look at our cast, a lot of them have very strong theatre backgrounds; the entire cast is made up of very strong actors. And opposite them are two of the greatest monsters in cinema history, so we're pretty happy about the entire cast."

And judging by 24 year-old Lewis' reaction at least, the cast themselves seem pretty happy too. "The Alien and Predator movies were so f**kin' cool," he enthuses. "There's a part of you that takes your craft very seriously, you study all the great filmmakers, the great actors. And there's a part of you that just wants to kill shit. "This is a movie that truly demands good acting," he continues, "but at the same time it's Alien Vs. Predator 2. The intent is awesomeness - not some deep existentialist statement about the human condition" These could quite possibly be the wisest words spoken on a movie set since Steven Speilberg said to Harrison Ford, "Okay, when the boulder starts rolling, run like f**k!" 

"We're all going to be upstaged, "laughs Pasquale. "But I cam in with that expectation. And it's fun. It's not all CG - we're acting with a lot of 'live' Aliens and Predators, which really help a performance. Like tonight, we're in icey rain so it's hard to act anything other than cold. It feels real, the way they light up the creatures and the way they slime them up. It's a throwback to my childhood when I pooped my pants at the second Alien movie." Literally? "Literally." "I did think about it long and hard before I signed on," says a shivering Aysleworth, edging closer to a space heater after repeating takes in the rain. "I wanted to make sure it was a good script before I commited. And as soon as I read it I went after it. I don't want to get too heavy because it's just fun, but I think the best sci-fi movies are metaphors for something. This movie has all the fun popcorn elements, but it also has a deeper metaphor." Which is? "I can't tell you that!" (Hmm, alien invaders = Al Qaeda/Iraq/Katrina?)

As far as the real stars of the show go, their credentials are impreccable. Amalgamated Dynamics is handling all the non-CG creatures effects. The company comprises Tom Woodruff and Alec Gillis, who have been performing as the Alien since James Cameron's Aliens in 1986. "Tom helped sculpt the Alien suit for Aliens," says Strause. "These guys have been involved with these creatures for a very long time; they're experts." Most of the special effects will be state-of-the-art man-in-a-suit rather than CG, a definite plus for purists. "Colin and I come from a visual effects background," says Strause. "We own a company that does CGI (Hyrdreaulx), but to get back to horror roots, nothing beats doing stuff in camera. We're making every effort to do all the effects in-camera where possible."

And told, despite the stoic tight-lippery and the fact that the only glimspe of an Alien or a Predator Empire is afforded is of Tom Woodruff wearing a slimeless and hence, unconvincing Alien head, AVP 2 could well be a tidy little creature-feature drawn along classically simple lines with two of fantasy-horror cinema's most enduring icons doing what they do best: killing shit, to borrow Johnny Lewis' eloquent phrase. Plus the added bonus of bathfuls of gore. "I'll refer you to Tom Rothman's use of the word 'hardcore'," says Strause...

Released
: January 18
Budget: $40 million (estimated)
Directors: Colin Strause, Greg Strause
The main selling point?: It's aimed at an adult audience.

HISTORY OF VIOLENCE
The AVP Timeline

2997 BC: Predators first arrive on Earth, where the natives build a pyramidal temple in their honour in Antartica. Aliens are introduced as prey for Predator coming-of-age rituals. AVP

1715: While hunting human prey, a Predator takes a souviner in the form of an old flintlock pistol, which will later find it's way to Danny Glover. PREDATOR 2

1987: A Predator begins a hunt in the jungles of Central America, only to be killed by a falling log courtsey of Major 'Dutch' Schaeffer of the US Special Forces. PREDATOR

1997: A Predator stalks downtown LA. After wiping out a drug gang, numerous police officers and half as train of cilivians, he's gutted by LAPD Lt. Mike Harrigan. PREDATOR 2

2004: An archeological team discovers the Antartic temple, filled with Alien eggs. The Predators return and a battle royale breaks out. One human and one Predator survive. AVP

2007: A Predator ship carrying Alien eggs crashes outside a small US town. Townsfolk are impreganted, chaos ensues and an elite Predator is sent to the clean up the mess. AVP REQUIEM

2122: Mining vessel Nostromo answers a distress call on planet LV-426. A ship containing Alien eggs is discovered and the outbreak leads to the deaths of the crew. Ellen Ripley is the sole survivor. ALIEN

2179: Contact is lost with a human colony on LV-426. A marine detachment and Ripley investigate, eliminating the Alien investation. Ripley, two other survivors and the mission synthetic survive. ALIENS

2179: The ship's EEV crash-lands on penal colony Fiorina 161, Ripley is the only survivor. A subsequent Alien outbreak causes numerous fatalitles. Ripley - now impreganted - commits suicide. ALIEN 3

2381 (approx): Ripley is cloned, allowing the repliaction of Alien DNA. An outbreak occurs on the USM Auriga. A small craft, The Betty, escapes with the surviving crew and the Ripley clone. ALIEN RESURRECTION

________________________________________________


So, the budgets around $40 million. Only $20 million less than AvP...
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 08:17:37 PM
QuoteSo, the budgets around $40 million. Only $20 million less than AvP...
Nope, avp´s budget was arround 35-40 million, and avp 2´s budget is not 40 million for sure.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Oct 27, 2007, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: War Wager on Oct 27, 2007, 04:28:31 PM

2007: A Predator ship carrying Alien eggs crashes outside a small US town. Townsfolk are impreganted, chaos ensues and an elite Predator is sent to the clean up the mess. AVP REQUIEM


So AVPR takes place in 2007, i remember heading that this movie takes place the same year as AVP.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: War Wager on Oct 27, 2007, 08:54:28 PM
It doesn't take place in 2007, it must be an error. The Predalien wouldn't survive on the ship for 3 years...
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 09:04:22 PM
Quote from: War Wager on Oct 27, 2007, 08:54:28 PM
It doesn't take place in 2007, it must be an error. The Predalien wouldn't survive on the ship for 3 years...

They don't live that long anyway. Aliens have a short lifespan.

But apart from that, I think a Predalien could easilly hide away somewhere.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Yautja161 on Oct 27, 2007, 09:08:59 PM
predalien hiding in a predship for 3 years? haha, makes me laugh thinking about it.
Hide and seek, keekaboo!
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 09:53:41 PM
Here's the scans, provided by War Wager:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg144.imageshack.us%2Fimg144%2F5219%2Fempire01dc3.jpg&hash=6f601da93492359b057218f1da1a0dc0d07d39bc)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg144.imageshack.us%2Fimg144%2F7451%2Fempire02of1.jpg&hash=569404387cb048705814b87591ee6e653d4367e5)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg144.imageshack.us%2Fimg144%2F1546%2Fempire03dr0.jpg&hash=15ec67256848cb0c7c7c942aeaf910482ad2ca3f)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg144.imageshack.us%2Fimg144%2F4517%2Fempire04xu5.jpg&hash=c4e91a2f27851019a8725c2717d4bcd1658ea0bc)
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Aeus on Oct 27, 2007, 09:55:28 PM
I bought the magazine a few hours ago. Have to say, I really love the extra detail you can see on that first picture. I love how detailed old Wolfy is.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Oct 27, 2007, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 09:53:41 PM
Here's the scans, provided by War Wager:

[Images]

Thanks for the scans, i love the detail in the scans/
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 10:09:57 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 08:17:37 PM
QuoteSo, the budgets around $40 million. Only $20 million less than AvP...
Nope, avp´s budget was arround 35-40 million, and avp 2´s budget is not 40 million for sure.

AVP had a budget of 60 million.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avp.htm
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: XenoVC on Oct 27, 2007, 10:12:18 PM
i see some new pictures there on the sides of the articles,could we get em close up?
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: nukem11 on Oct 27, 2007, 10:12:27 PM
I love how they use the predator writing on the article.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Rabbit2100 on Oct 27, 2007, 10:59:56 PM
oh wow what a fine way to awake from a nap.

thats an interesting article
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 11:02:59 PM
Quote from: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 10:09:57 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 08:17:37 PM
QuoteSo, the budgets around $40 million. Only $20 million less than AvP...
Nope, avp´s budget was arround 35-40 million, and avp 2´s budget is not 40 million for sure.

AVP had a budget of 60 million.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avp.htm
Nope it wasnt, anderson said tha he had less then alien 3, and that one didnt cost 60 million, i thing 35 million.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 11:14:27 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 11:02:59 PM
Quote from: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 10:09:57 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 08:17:37 PM
QuoteSo, the budgets around $40 million. Only $20 million less than AvP...
Nope, avp´s budget was arround 35-40 million, and avp 2´s budget is not 40 million for sure.

AVP had a budget of 60 million.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avp.htm
Nope it wasnt, anderson said tha he had less then alien 3, and that one didnt cost 60 million, i thing 35 million.

Box Office Mojo shows Alien 3 with a budget of $50 million. Check the link below.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=alien3.htm

AVP had a budget of $60 million. Check the link below.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avp.htm

Are you sure he didn't say Alien Resurrection. The film had a budget of $75 million.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 11:16:53 PM
Quote from: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 11:14:27 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 11:02:59 PM
Quote from: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 10:09:57 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 08:17:37 PM
QuoteSo, the budgets around $40 million. Only $20 million less than AvP...
Nope, avp´s budget was arround 35-40 million, and avp 2´s budget is not 40 million for sure.

AVP had a budget of 60 million.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avp.htm
Nope it wasnt, anderson said tha he had less then alien 3, and that one didnt cost 60 million, i thing 35 million.

Box Office Mojo shows Alien 3 with a budget of $50 million. Check the link below.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=alien3.htm

AVP had a budget of $60 million. Check the link below.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avp.htm

Are you sure he didn't say Alien Resurrection. The film had a budget of $75 million.
I dont care what they say, the budget was lower then alien 3´s, and anderson said alien 3´s was about 35 million.
And goddamn have you ever seen avp? 40 million at highest.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 11:20:30 PM
Box Office Mojo is an official site for box office numbers and production numbers. It's not oppinion. It's fact.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 11:24:45 PM
Quote from: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 11:20:30 PM
Box Office Mojo is an official site for box office numbers and production numbers. It's not oppinion. It's fact.
No its not, trust me, there are mayny budgets not accurate, i have seen other articles that say avp had a budget of 80 million dollars, now you say its 60.
I say it was lower then alien 3´s, which was about 35 million, as stated by a director of the movie. :)
Why would he even lower his budget? Trust me, 40 million at most.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 11:33:43 PM
AvP's budget was $45m. I know a lot of people say it's more but I don't think it was. And yeah I remember Anderson definitely said it was lower than A3's $50m budget. He wouldn't have taken inflation into account either.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Xenomorphine on Oct 27, 2007, 11:39:02 PM
"The intent is awesomeness."

Oy...

Thanks to the forum member who managed to scan these in.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 11:40:25 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 11:24:45 PM
Quote from: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 11:20:30 PM
Box Office Mojo is an official site for box office numbers and production numbers. It's not oppinion. It's fact.
No its not, trust me, there are mayny budgets not accurate, i have seen other articles that say avp had a budget of 80 million dollars, now you say its 60.
I say it was lower then alien 3´s, which was about 35 million, as stated by a director of the movie. :)
Why would he even lower his budget? Trust me, 40 million at most.

I am not going to keep posting links to back up what I am saying, yet you want me to trust what you are saying?
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 11:49:29 PM
Quote from: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 11:40:25 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 11:24:45 PM
Quote from: Invisible Darkness on Oct 27, 2007, 11:20:30 PM
Box Office Mojo is an official site for box office numbers and production numbers. It's not oppinion. It's fact.
No its not, trust me, there are mayny budgets not accurate, i have seen other articles that say avp had a budget of 80 million dollars, now you say its 60.
I say it was lower then alien 3´s, which was about 35 million, as stated by a director of the movie. :)
Why would he even lower his budget? Trust me, 40 million at most.

I am not going to keep posting links to back up what I am saying, yet you want me to trust what you are saying?
I dont want anything.
Either you belive me or not, if not, then im fine with it.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: SiL on Oct 27, 2007, 11:51:29 PM
Alien 3's budget was 55 million, not 35.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 27, 2007, 11:54:36 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 27, 2007, 11:51:29 PM
Alien 3's budget was 55 million, not 35.
So, avp´s budget is not 60 million for sure.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: SiL on Oct 27, 2007, 11:57:41 PM
It may well have been.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 28, 2007, 12:01:51 AM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 27, 2007, 11:57:41 PM
It may well have been.
Why would Anderson lower his own budget?
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Dachande on Oct 28, 2007, 12:02:55 AM
So he can say, 'my movie was bad, becuse i wasnt given enough funds! BLAME FOX! DAMN YOU TO HELL FOX! BTW Thanks for my hefty paycheck'  ^__^
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Oct 28, 2007, 12:05:22 AM
Quote from: Dachande on Oct 28, 2007, 12:02:55 AM
So he can say, 'my movie was bad, becuse i wasnt given enough funds! BLAME FOX! DAMN YOU TO HELL FOX! BTW Thanks for my hefty paycheck'  ^__^
I thought about that too, but i just dont buy it.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: SiL on Oct 28, 2007, 12:13:57 AM
Anderson works on the cheap. It's part of his appeal.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: ashion on Oct 28, 2007, 12:14:53 AM
Budget means nothing to mean. Its what they do with it that really counts in the end.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Don Dorris on Oct 28, 2007, 12:29:43 AM
One thing that I noticed in the Empire article is the in the synopsis of the film. It states that the predator ship that crashes is carrying aliens for training purposes. That could just be Empire assuming, or it could be an explanation for the facehuggers on the ship (or why they indeed let the Predalien grow - a theory I believe Xenomorphine supports).
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: BiggyMac04 on Oct 28, 2007, 12:53:50 AM
is it just me but in the breffing area it say's its being relesed Janurary 18
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Don Dorris on Oct 28, 2007, 01:13:03 AM
Quote from: BiggyMac04 on Oct 28, 2007, 12:53:50 AM
is it just me but in the breffing area it say's its being relesed Janurary 18
That's the UK release. British magazine and all.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Oct 28, 2007, 01:20:54 AM
I can take the comment on "awesomeness > existentialism", but the little girl skipping in the rain...a bit much.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: SiL on Oct 28, 2007, 01:22:03 AM
Know what would rule?

A movie that combined both awesomeness and existentialism.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Oct 28, 2007, 01:25:58 AM
I'm sure the kid brings gravity and innocence in the middle of a creature war within the movie, but it's a bit negating when the article talks abouit awesomeness and then shows us a still clip of something rather normal for any given film.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on Oct 28, 2007, 02:05:14 AM
She's holding onto Kelly's hand because they're RUNNING away you dunce.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: The Chibi Kiriyama on Oct 28, 2007, 03:01:10 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Oct 28, 2007, 02:05:14 AM
She's holding onto Kelly's hand because they're RUNNING away you dunce.

As per usual, your fervor forces you to Flame for Colin (tm). Don't you remember the post deletion you received after last time?

I'm not saying she shouldn't be running away. I'm asking why we get this still when just about everything up until now has been a credible creature shot.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Noir-Gojira on Oct 28, 2007, 03:04:33 AM
QuoteKnow what would rule?

A movie that combined both awesomeness and existentialism.

One step at a time, Sil.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: JordanLee on Oct 28, 2007, 07:05:38 AM
Are none of you considering that maybe Paul Anderson is just an idiot? ??? Besides, what other excuse could he make for making that abomination? :-\
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Xenomorphine on Oct 28, 2007, 07:16:26 AM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 28, 2007, 12:13:57 AM
Anderson works on the cheap. It's part of his appeal.

Yeah, but he points out in the commentries that they didn't even have enough money for more than one or two torches. They had to do some camera tricks to make it look like there were more than they could afford.

Quote from: Lovely Man on Oct 28, 2007, 12:29:43 AM
One thing that I noticed in the Empire article is the in the synopsis of the film. It states that the predator ship that crashes is carrying aliens for training purposes. That could just be Empire assuming, or it could be an explanation for the facehuggers on the ship (or why they indeed let the Predalien grow - a theory I believe Xenomorphine supports).

Training purposes? Interesting... That would seem to support what I came up with, yeah. I'll read the scans a bit more thoroughly.

Wonder what would cause the Predalien's three-year ship captivity to come to a sudden end, then. Predator sabotage?

Maybe Sean connery will come out of retirement to play the Predator Captain.

"Mosht thingsh in here don't react well to fashehuggersh, Comrade... Clickity-clackety, clickety-clackety, clickety-clackety."

Quote from: SiL on Oct 28, 2007, 01:22:03 AM
Know what would rule?

A movie that combined both awesomeness and existentialism.

Awesome existentialism?

Sounds like a fun course. I wanna' teach it. Or at least be signed up.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Xenomorphine on Oct 28, 2007, 07:24:48 AM
I just checked. It says only that the ship is meant to be carrying eggs, not that it's there for carrying out training.

Still, the apparent gap of three years would have to somehow be explained, if that's the case.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Sheriff Eddie Morales on Oct 28, 2007, 08:01:10 AM
Thanks for the scans. ;)
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Xenomorphine on Oct 28, 2007, 08:13:13 AM
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Oct 28, 2007, 01:25:58 AM
I'm sure the kid brings gravity and innocence in the middle of a creature war within the movie, but it's a bit negating when the article talks about awesomeness and then shows us a still clip of something rather normal for any given film.

You just aren't prepared for the sheer impact of its awesomeness, dude. This shall be awesomeness beyond your wildest, most awesome of awesomest dreams.

You know why?

Awesomeness, pure and simple.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: War Wager on Oct 28, 2007, 11:29:51 AM
On the subject of awesomeness, that is the Predalien summed up in one word. It doesn't look as it should, but it looks a heck of a lot more awesome than it would have.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Xerxész on Oct 28, 2007, 11:42:27 AM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Oct 27, 2007, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: War Wager on Oct 27, 2007, 04:28:31 PM

2007: A Predator ship carrying Alien eggs crashes outside a small US town. Townsfolk are impreganted, chaos ensues and an elite Predator is sent to the clean up the mess. AVP REQUIEM


So AVPR takes place in 2007, i remember heading that this movie takes place the same year as AVP.
Colin said onthe main site of AvP Galaxy that AvP-R takes place right after AvP. So it's 2004. And then AvP-R could be a real sequel to AvP (altar scene, you know guys). See:

Colin_Strause | 28 Oct 2007 03:2711
Um, this movie takes place right after AVP, so it ain't 2007.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: War Wager on Oct 28, 2007, 11:45:15 AM
It's not our fault ^. It was Empire that guessed that was the year.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Xenomorphine on Oct 28, 2007, 12:13:44 PM
At least that's confirmed, then. Thanks for catching the detail.

It's going to be weird maintaining that a Colorado town got wiped out in 2004, from our present standpoint, though. :)
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Don Dorris on Oct 28, 2007, 12:54:43 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 28, 2007, 07:24:48 AM
I just checked. It says only that the ship is meant to be carrying eggs, not that it's there for carrying out training.

Still, the apparent gap of three years would have to somehow be explained, if that's the case.
The bit I refer to is in the orange section entitled 'Briefing' where it states under plot: "A ship carrying Aliens - destined to be killed by Predators-in-training - crashes in a small US town."

Of course it does say some things we know are false, so it could just be empire assuming like I said: "A team of Predators is sent to clean up. Kelly O'Brien (Aylseworth) attempts to lead the townsfolk to safety."
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Aeus on Oct 28, 2007, 01:12:10 PM
Quote from: Lovely Man on Oct 28, 2007, 12:54:43 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 28, 2007, 07:24:48 AM
I just checked. It says only that the ship is meant to be carrying eggs, not that it's there for carrying out training.

Still, the apparent gap of three years would have to somehow be explained, if that's the case.
Of course it does say some things we know are false, so it could just be empire assuming like I said: "A team of Predators is sent to clean up."

I have the magazine. It says "An elite Predator is sent to clean up the mess" or something like that.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Don Dorris on Oct 28, 2007, 03:28:38 PM
Quote from: Aeus on Oct 28, 2007, 01:12:10 PM
Quote from: Lovely Man on Oct 28, 2007, 12:54:43 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 28, 2007, 07:24:48 AM
I just checked. It says only that the ship is meant to be carrying eggs, not that it's there for carrying out training.

Still, the apparent gap of three years would have to somehow be explained, if that's the case.
Of course it does say some things we know are false, so it could just be empire assuming like I said: "A team of Predators is sent to clean up."

I have the magazine. It says "An elite Predator is sent to clean up the mess" or something like that.
Yes it does say that on the timeline. But in the orange 'briefing' section it says exactly what I typed - I wrote it word for word. Not that it matters - it's possible that the sections were written at different times possibly even by different people.

QuoteFrom Empire under 'Briefing'
A ship carrying Aliens - destined to be killed by Predators-in-training - crashes in a small US town. A team of Predators is sent to clean up. Kelly O'Brien (Aylseworth) attempts to lead the townsfolk to safety.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: Anomaly on Oct 30, 2007, 02:18:36 AM
Quote from: War Wager on Oct 27, 2007, 04:28:31 PM
"This is a movie that truly demands good acting," he continues, "but at the same time it's Alien Vs. Predator 2. The intent is awesomeness - not some deep existentialist statement about the human condition"

Those very concerned about being self important somehow, usually shortchange a film like this. Ive heard this many times over, and this usually signals a miss of the Jim Cameron brand of story: interesting and strong.

Whos betting nobody feels a damn thing for the characters in this movie? I havent ever heard the Makers of batman begins say this or V for vendetta.
Title: Re: AvPR Article in Empire Magazine
Post by: darcevil on Oct 30, 2007, 02:21:27 AM
Quote from: Anomaly on Oct 30, 2007, 02:18:36 AM
Quote from: War Wager on Oct 27, 2007, 04:28:31 PM
"This is a movie that truly demands good acting," he continues, "but at the same time it's Alien Vs. Predator 2. The intent is awesomeness - not some deep existentialist statement about the human condition"

Those very concerned about being self important somehow, usually shortchange a film like this. Ive heard this many times over, and this usually signals a miss of the Jim Cameron brand of story: interesting and strong.

Whos betting nobody feels a damn thing for the characters in this movie? I havent ever heard the Makers of batman begins say this or V for vendetta.

Most people want to see the humans triumph or something in these movies. People are too addicted to their WB afternoon soaps. :-X