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I've long wanted to see a story featuring the flintlock pistol from Predator 2. I mean, perhaps the artifact doesn't represent much of a mystery on its own, but it does suggest that there is a whole back story about Predators hunting in ancient times.

And I get to thinking about Alien's Space Jockey, which raises questions such as "Who is the big guy in the chair? Where did it come from? Where was he headed? What is his relationship with the Alien?"

Now I want to learn if there is something like that in the Predator franchise, either in movies or in the EU.

(https://s2.gifyu.com/images/45d1e4d1-7699-46a8-9553-352678d88a01.gif)

I think it's the Predator ship itself, the Predator culture itself, the technology of the Predator's seemingly incongruous with their behaviour and that's part of the magic.

Definitely. The Lost Tribe' spaceship is as intriguing and cool as the Derelict. The art in the interior, the design, its crew, the trophy room. It looks like a vehicle full of history.

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 13, 2021, 12:03:45 AM
I've long wanted to see a story featuring the flintlock pistol from Predator 2. I mean, perhaps the artifact doesn't represent much of a mystery on its own, but it does suggest that there is a whole back story about Predators hunting in ancient times.

There is a comic going into the backstory of the flintlock pistol; Predator: 1718. Excellent story!

There's also this weird hammer head thing in Predators.

(https://i.ibb.co/B6W8XBz/Alien-drill-Rig.jpg)

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Quote from: bendinglight on Feb 13, 2021, 12:32:27 AM
There is a comic going into the backstory of the flintlock pistol; Predator: 1718. Excellent story!

Wow that's sick! I'm so unaware of the EU that I feel ashamed of myself 😂

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 13, 2021, 01:11:30 AM
There's also this weird hammer head thing in Predators.

There's clearly a lot in Predators set up to make the audience ask questions after the film ends, but nothing elicits mystery in the way Predator 2 or Alien does, in my opinion anyway.

King Willie's Prophecy Bones.

Their age and origin are still unknown.

King Willie must have found a trophy room full of Arcturian bones.

Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 13, 2021, 01:16:25 AM

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 13, 2021, 01:11:30 AM
There's also this weird hammer head thing in Predators.

There's clearly a lot in Predators set up to make the audience ask questions after the film ends, but nothing elicits mystery in the way Predator 2 or Alien does, in my opinion anyway.

Yes, it doesn't have the same impact. Well nothing in the Game Preserve Planet actually.

Admittedly kinda cool though.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-57CGk6Tk8-o%2FURBs3LsuNPI%2FAAAAAAAAYJc%2F-dHxWCWmx5c%2Fs1600%2FAlex-Toader-Predators-0002-Drills_Concept_2_final.jpg&hash=a6723f0501f166670e234b5fb8ec5dd320e97b59)

I really dig the Terran vibe.

(https://i.ibb.co/m88H6PJ/STARCRAFT-TERRAN-BATTLECRUISER-SHIP-ENVBG2-FOOTER-1024x.png)

Just wish we saw something distinct within it.

(https://s4.gifyu.com/images/52fzkp.gif)

I'm sorry for not being clear, I mean inside the structures we previously discussed in Predators, wish they had a unique element of otherworldliness.

They should have tried harder for sure. Even Mortal Kombat X has a glimpse of something less generic.


It has a mollusk shell lighting, which in combination with artificial fog it is successful in executing an otherworldly atmosphere.

Lost Predator Ship for sure! No buttons, dials, or switches. Lighting that simulates breathing and a heartbeat. Imagining all the possibilities of its genesis is endless!  :)

I like to think that lighting is actually bioluminescence, as if there was something alive there.  :)

Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 13, 2021, 05:00:32 AM
Admittedly kinda cool though.
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Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 19, 2021, 08:29:56 PM
Just wish we saw something distinct within it.

I think that is it right there. It wasn't distinct. It wasn't wondrous enough to illicit a sense of mystery that would linger inside you far beyond its seconds on screen.

If it had more of a unique design, or a piece of the derelict drill's inhabitants or culture. A petrified deformed helmet. A strange face carved in the wall like the one seen on the surface of Mars, perhaps with some sort of weapon smashed into its demolished forehead. Strange writing on the wall. A fossilized amputated hand with six fingers hanging on to a chain. Something...

I always say with Predators it's concept versus execution. It had so many wonderful concepts, and if they executed things better in that film, it had potential to be one of the sci-fi greats. I truly believe that. (However, to be fair, budget and limitations on time deserves some of the blame.)

the ship in predators where mr fishburn s character stayed in might have been  a ship that carried prisoners and all kinds of strange creatures. maybe some came free and attacked the pilots. perhaps the ship had to crash land on that planet which wasnt initially to be a game reserve but eventually became one.  the predators amongst others mutated and became super predators. so the location of the planet became a closely guarded secret. which eventually leaked and all out war ensued between super amd normal predators.

so the pilots of that "crashed" ship could be seen as SJ s of the pred galaxy

Reminds me how generic the pred ships were in The Predator... One more disappointment to add to this movie...

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2021, 12:30:30 PM
If it had more of a unique design, or a piece of the derelict drill's inhabitants or culture. A petrified deformed helmet. A strange face carved in the wall like the one seen on the surface of Mars, perhaps with some sort of weapon smashed into its demolished forehead. Strange writing on the wall. A fossilized amputated hand with six fingers hanging on to a chain. Something...

One of these please! lol

(https://i.ibb.co/rGJhPRS/pred.jpg)

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 01, 2021, 06:13:40 PM

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2021, 12:30:30 PM
If it had more of a unique design, or a piece of the derelict drill's inhabitants or culture. A petrified deformed helmet. A strange face carved in the wall like the one seen on the surface of Mars, perhaps with some sort of weapon smashed into its demolished forehead. Strange writing on the wall. A fossilized amputated hand with six fingers hanging on to a chain. Something...

One of these please! lol

https://i.ibb.co/rGJhPRS/pred.jpg

Wow, how mind blowing would that have been? Brilliant Jonesy! If they created a fossilized Boss Studios Predator in that ship, not only would it have been mind-blowing for fans, we'd still be pondering the implications to this day!

Although I love them currently in the Alpha Predator lore, that would have been amazing! Well done! 👏

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2021, 10:28:42 PM

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 01, 2021, 06:13:40 PM

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2021, 12:30:30 PM
If it had more of a unique design, or a piece of the derelict drill's inhabitants or culture. A petrified deformed helmet. A strange face carved in the wall like the one seen on the surface of Mars, perhaps with some sort of weapon smashed into its demolished forehead. Strange writing on the wall. A fossilized amputated hand with six fingers hanging on to a chain. Something...

One of these please! lol

https://i.ibb.co/rGJhPRS/pred.jpg

Wow, how mind blowing would that have been? Brilliant Jonesy! If they created a fossilized Boss Studios Predator in that ship, not only would it have been mind-blowing for fans, we'd still be pondering the implications to this day!

Although I love them currently in the Alpha Predator lore, that would have been amazing! Well done! 👏

Yaaay! Finally!!! we agree on something.  :laugh:  :)

sorry  for my mistake. i thought the  thing mr fishburne's chatacter stayed on  was a crashed ship. apparently  its not. apologies. what is it then?

Quote from: oduodu on Apr 02, 2021, 08:57:23 PMsorry  for my mistake. i thought the  thing mr fishburne's chatacter stayed on  was a crashed ship. apparently  its not. apologies. what is it then?

This article doesn't say much about it, nor does it cite sources (maybe there aren't?), but in Xenopedia they nickname it the thing as alien drill. They still refer to the structure as a vessel though.

▶Abandoned Alien Drill (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Abandoned_Alien_Drill)

If I remember in the Predators commentary, Nimrod commented on the drill bit and called the whole installation some sort of derelict drilling machinery. So if it was flown there as a part of a larger spacecraft from another planet, or just indigenous, I think was left ambiguous.

Fascinating. I've never seen behind-the-scenes footage

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 03, 2021, 12:42:28 AM
If I remember in the Predators commentary, Nimrod commented on the drill bit and called the whole installation some sort of derelict drilling machinery. So if it was flown there as a part of a larger spacecraft from another planet, or just indigenous, I think was left ambiguous.

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 03, 2021, 12:25:28 AM

Quote from: oduodu on Apr 02, 2021, 08:57:23 PM
sorry  for my mistake. i thought the  thing mr fishburne's chatacter stayed on  was a crashed ship. apparently  its not. apologies. what is it then?

This article doesn't say much about it, nor does it cite sources (maybe there aren't?), but in Xenopedia they nickname it the thing as alien drill. They still refer to the structure as a vessel though.

▶Abandoned Alien Drill (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Abandoned_Alien_Drill)

thanks both of you gents - fascinating indeed

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 01, 2021, 06:13:40 PM

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2021, 12:30:30 PM
If it had more of a unique design, or a piece of the derelict drill's inhabitants or culture. A petrified deformed helmet. A strange face carved in the wall like the one seen on the surface of Mars, perhaps with some sort of weapon smashed into its demolished forehead. Strange writing on the wall. A fossilized amputated hand with six fingers hanging on to a chain. Something...

One of these please! lol

https://i.ibb.co/rGJhPRS/pred.jpg

That B&W shot always reminds me of these goofy f**kers:

(https://www.kaijubattle.net/uploads/2/9/5/7/29570123/940619623_orig.jpg)

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Apr 03, 2021, 09:04:27 PM

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 01, 2021, 06:13:40 PM

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2021, 12:30:30 PMIf it had more of a unique design, or a piece of the derelict drill's inhabitants or culture. A petrified deformed helmet. A strange face carved in the wall like the one seen on the surface of Mars, perhaps with some sort of weapon smashed into its demolished forehead. Strange writing on the wall. A fossilized amputated hand with six fingers hanging on to a chain. Something...

One of these please! lol

https://i.ibb.co/rGJhPRS/pred.jpg

That B&W shot always reminds me of these goofy f**kers:

https://www.kaijubattle.net/uploads/2/9/5/7/29570123/940619623_orig.jpg

I think you can get the best bug out there with the right references.  8)

It certainly looks terrific worn, imo!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71C1jX0dpDL._AC_SL1394_.jpg)

Calcified Amengi...

Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 13, 2021, 12:06:34 AM
I think it's the Predator ship itself, the Predator culture itself, the technology of the Predator's seemingly incongruous with their behaviour and that's part of the magic.

Exactly what I've thought. Predators are an enigma in on themselves

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 31, 2021, 12:30:30 PM

Quote from: Trash Queen on Feb 13, 2021, 05:00:32 AM
Admittedly kinda cool though.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-57CGk6Tk8-o%2FURBs3LsuNPI%2FAAAAAAAAYJc%2F-dHxWCWmx5c%2Fs1600%2FAlex-Toader-Predators-0002-Drills_Concept_2_final.jpg&hash=a6723f0501f166670e234b5fb8ec5dd320e97b59)

Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 19, 2021, 08:29:56 PM
Just wish we saw something distinct within it.

I think that is it right there. It wasn't distinct. It wasn't wondrous enough to illicit a sense of mystery that would linger inside you far beyond its seconds on screen.

If it had more of a unique design, or a piece of the derelict drill's inhabitants or culture. A petrified deformed helmet. A strange face carved in the wall like the one seen on the surface of Mars, perhaps with some sort of weapon smashed into its demolished forehead. Strange writing on the wall. A fossilized amputated hand with six fingers hanging on to a chain. Something...

I always say with Predators it's concept versus execution. It had so many wonderful concepts, and if they executed things better in that film, it had potential to be one of the sci-fi greats. I truly believe that. (However, to be fair, budget and limitations on time deserves some of the blame.)

God damn... that would've been something! 

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 03, 2021, 12:25:28 AM

Quote from: oduodu on Apr 02, 2021, 08:57:23 PM
sorry  for my mistake. i thought the  thing mr fishburne's chatacter stayed on  was a crashed ship. apparently  its not. apologies. what is it then?

This article doesn't say much about it, nor does it cite sources (maybe there aren't?), but in Xenopedia they nickname it the thing as alien drill. They still refer to the structure as a vessel though.

▶Abandoned Alien Drill (https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Abandoned_Alien_Drill)

Both could be right though. If there is deep space vessel in the furure, all of it will have second or even third perpous after landing. It is entirely possible it was spacecraft repurposed into drilling equipment.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/11082022_01.jpg)

What's the mask from?