ALIEN: The Weyland-Yutani Report (S.D. Perry, 160 pages)

[RakaiThwei]

What's "our official stance"?

Stick with the films?

[Xenomrph]

What's "our official stance"?

Stick with the films?

He's asking what predxeno means by the phrase.

And we don't have an "official stance", because we're all individuals who can make up our own minds.

[SM]

What's "our official stance"?

Stick with the films?

Works for me - but I don't know what Predxeno is trying to say.

[FiorinaFury161]

I still don't get why fans never liked bringing Hicks back from the dead, then again no one ever told me.

Because he was quite clearly, obviously and irretrievably dead in Alien3, and the manner of his return was possibly the most incomprehensibly bad piece of writiing ever associated with an Alien license.  It not only paid no attention to the continuity of the souce material - it paid no attention to its own continuity.

^ THIS THIS THIS THIS!!! Also, didn't Andrews collect Hicks' military ID tags? I'm sure that the CM and/or WY had to have them for confirmation issues. Also, if you look below the names in the film (ie Lt. Ellen Ripley, unidentified female, etc) the numbers are below the name, SURELY that would have to confirm who the adults fn are.

[SM]

Considering Ripley was comatose, and Hicks' cryotube monitoring equipment was all smashed - that's the obvious and simplest conclusion.

[Corporal Hicks]

I still don't get why fans never liked bringing Hicks back from the dead, then again no one ever told me.

It really hurts me that people don't like me being back.  But I'll get used to it. *considers changing username again*

But yeah, it seems of late we're getting a lot of retcons. It seems that Fox is really adverse to trying new things again.

[Xenomrph]

What do you mean?

By definition, retcons are shoehorning "new things" into what has come before and then forcing them to fit by making changes.

[HuDaFuK]

Because he was quite clearly, obviously and irretrievably dead in Alien3, and the manner of his return was possibly the most incomprehensibly bad piece of writiing ever associated with an Alien license.  It not only paid no attention to the continuity of the souce material - it paid no attention to its own continuity.

Yep. It wasn't so much what they did (although the fact they even tried it reeks of lame fan-fiction), it was the hysterically improbable scenario they conjured up to achieve it.

It really hurts me that people don't like me being back.  But I'll get used to it. *considers changing username again*

"No offence" - Burke

[SM]

But yeah, it seems of late we're getting a lot of retcons. It seems that Fox is really adverse to trying new things again.

Possibly because all the new things they've tried in recent years haven't been overly successful?

[Corporal Hicks]

What do you mean?

By definition, retcons are shoehorning "new things" into what has come before and then forcing them to fit by making changes.

I mean - leaving Ripley alone and not tying everything into the older media.

Possibly because all the new things they've tried in recent years haven't been overly successful?

True enough. Just takes the right people though.

[gabgrave]

But yeah, it seems of late we're getting a lot of retcons. It seems that Fox is really adverse to trying new things again.

Fox is jumping in on the Prometheus hype to bring back more Aliens. With the new novels and comics, it's only a matter of time until Alien5.

It really hurts me that people don't like me being back.  But I'll get used to it. *considers changing username again*

Nothing personal. As long as you don't have CPL. HICKS L55321 stenciled on the back of your shorts.

[SM]

What do you mean?

By definition, retcons are shoehorning "new things" into what has come before and then forcing them to fit by making changes.

I mean - leaving Ripley alone and not tying everything into the older media.

Possibly because all the new things they've tried in recent years haven't been overly successful?

True enough. Just takes the right people though.

Out Of The Shadows was much better than it had a right to be.

[HuDaFuK]

Out Of The Shadows was much better than it had a right to be.

It was still hurt by them shoehorning Ripley into it though.

[Xenomrph]

But yeah, it seems of late we're getting a lot of retcons. It seems that Fox is really adverse to trying new things again.

Fox is jumping in on the Prometheus hype to bring back more Aliens. With the new novels and comics, it's only a matter of time until Alien5.

It's less to do with Prometheus and more to do with the 35th anniversary of 'Alien'.

[Corporal Hicks]

Out Of The Shadows was much better than it had a right to be.

It was still hurt by them shoehorning Ripley into it though.

Indeed - I wasn't saying the new stuff isn't good. I've enjoyed both new novels a lot but the Fox mandated Ripley inclusion hurt Out of the Shadows quite a lot.