Very interesting interview.
*Embedded video. Hicks.
So, the film will be around 1 hour 40 minutes...
Could have been a little longer, but we'll see.
Often times films, even good ones drag on too long- so I'm glad to hear that.
BR2049 I think is a good example of an excellent film that drags.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 31, 2018, 05:21:59 PM
So, the film will be around 1 hour 40 minutes...
Could have been a little longer, but we'll see.
Yeah a bit disappointed by that to be honest, but not surprised. They had to cut two Predators, a whole military character and a swarm of monsters. Going by the leaked script the movie, in it's original intend, would have been well over two hours long.
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I don't really care how long it is as long as the runtime suits the film. I also don't think we'll be seeing any alternate cut with those missing Predators either. Shane is such a cool dude, though. I can't get enough of listening to him and the cast talking about this film. Interesting to hear him talk about his emphasis on how the Predator behaves too.
Very informative. Enjoyed it. I'm actually so glad n relieved that he mentioned about the tribal nature of predators in contrast with their advanced technology, suggesting different factions and a society! Explains the the choice of a non-tribal yet modern look n feel of Fugitive's armor
A lot of the stuff that came out of comic con was kind of fluffy, but this interview was pretty interesting. I like that he seemed to clarify that it is just one faction of predators "roiding out" and "cheating" (and I appreciate that he uses the word cheating because that's how I feel about the DNA upgrading thing!) and I hope that's made clear in the movie.
I really love Shane Black. He's a swell guy. Really, really looking forward to this movie.
I don't care how cool and nice he comes across... Colin Trevorrow is a great guy too yet Jurassic World 1 and 2 were mediocre.
Quote from: Xan21 on Jul 31, 2018, 07:29:04 PM
I don't care how cool and nice he comes across... Colin Trevorrow is a great guy too yet Jurassic World 1 and 2 were mediocre.
Black is more skilled though
And here I was hoping we might get an alternate cut of the movie. I was actually interested in some of the weird stuff the movie offered in the first place. Anyway I need me some anxiety pills till The Predator gets released.
From where I sat a few months ago on this movie I honestly think Shane Black managed to save this film from being the Alien Resurrection of the Predator franchise.
Thank you, Mr. Black.
Everything sounds good so far so lets see how this all translates to film. Off topic but Thomas Jane looks sick. Is this the result of him getting into character?
City Hunter was a "champion"?
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 31, 2018, 10:36:35 PM
City Hunter was a "champion"?
Eh, maybe there was another we didn't see get merked- back in 1715 or something.
We'll probably get to experience the alternate cut via the novel. The final manuscript would have been at the printers way before the reshoots took place.
The same thing basically happened when they reshot the ending to Star Trek Generations after poor test screenings. The original death of Kirk is still in the book.
This was an awesome interview. Shane seems like such a cool guy, loved his take on the Predators and all around attitude and perspective on life.
Quote from: Jango1201 on Jul 31, 2018, 10:08:11 PMOff topic but Thomas Jane looks sick. Is this the result of him getting into character?
I was kind of wondering the same thing. He looks pretty skinny now.
Quote from: Xan21 on Jul 31, 2018, 07:29:04 PM
I don't care how cool and nice he comes across... Colin Trevorrow is a great guy too yet Jurassic World 1 and 2 were mediocre.
Mediocre is being way too nice. Those movies are total garbage...
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Quote from: Xan21 on Jul 31, 2018, 07:29:04 PM
I don't care how cool and nice he comes across... Colin Trevorrow is a great guy too yet Jurassic World 1 and 2 were mediocre.
Mediocre is being way too nice. Those movies are total garbage...
Pretty much. I don't know how it's possible to fudge up a movie about an open dinosaur park, but they did it. The biggest frustration about Fallen Kingdom is that there were so many good things that were canceled out by all the stupid things. The opening scene for instance actually felt like the original two movies. Pretty disappointing overall though.
I doubt they will manage to top my own predator culture, clan hierarchies, history and technology that i developed lol. not to sound like a bigot or anything but i know what i got is good
So they ran out of money to finish effects for the movie... that really sucks. I guess an hour and forty minutes is minus the 20 minutes of unable to complete footage.
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 31, 2018, 10:36:35 PM
City Hunter was a "champion"?
That's what I was thinking :-\
The runtime sounds close to the previous movies.
Quote from: The Old One on Jul 31, 2018, 05:31:49 PM
Often times films, even good ones drag on too long- so I'm glad to hear that.
BR2049 I think is a good example of an excellent film that drags.
Drags? Man, I experienced that film as meditation and was entertained the whole sitting...
After watching BR2049 for like 4th time, at home (three times in theaters) there are definitely minutes that could have been shaved off, but it is my favorite movie since Mad Max Fury Road (also saw in theatres like three times, I just never do that)
Back on topic, really hope the cut creatures and Pred designs get immortalized in some way, I mean it's not like there's tons of movies, these suit/prop builds are probably pretty neat
Sorry, I agree with R.S on this one, and it doesn't help that the soundtrack is subpar and overbearing.
The film is far too long and in your face in places as a result of that, there are multiple times we flashback to sequences that are unnecessary, even as flavour. The whole rebellion angle should have been minimised, not said but suggested, as it is, it's obnoxious and takes me out of the film everytime.
There's little stuff too like the exploration of the junk area going on for far too long, specifically everything with the child workers and K taking his sweet time on walkways. The dancing hologram girl should have stayed in the background. Every scene with Jared Leto was a snooze and should have been minimised.
Focus more on just Luv's reaction in the first and Deckard's in the second, there's tons of dead air.
Shorten the exploration/fight of the casino just a bit.
All this being said, I do really like 2049.
Luv, Joi, Sapper, Robin Wright, every moment with any of them is fantastic and there's excellent mood and worldbuilding. I wish there was a shorter, leaner cut- in addition to the one we already have.
I guarantee I'd watch it more if there were.
The Final Cut still tops it by miles for me.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 31, 2018, 11:23:46 PM
This was an awesome interview. Shane seems like such a cool guy, loved his take on the Predators and all around attitude and perspective on life.
Quote from: Jango1201 on Jul 31, 2018, 10:08:11 PMOff topic but Thomas Jane looks sick. Is this the result of him getting into character?
I was kind of wondering the same thing. He looks pretty skinny now.
Maybe he's just not one of the few that age gracefully but something just seems off. I didn't recognize him until I saw his name plate at the CC panel.
Quote from: Jango1201 on Aug 01, 2018, 03:23:14 AM
Maybe he's just not one of the few that age gracefully but something just seems off. I didn't recognize him until I saw his name plate at the CC panel.
Maybe he's still coming off 1922. I remember Mathew McConaughey was really sickly lookin' for several movies after he did that one movie. Wasn't it dallas buyers club or Mud or somethin?
Anyone else annoyed with the collider dude?
Hire someone with more experience in personal interaction. Not a web developer
Comingsoon.net is equally atrocious in interviews
I thought he did fine, enthusiastic and asked questions with tact. There's far worse out there.
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Quote from: Huggs on Jul 31, 2018, 10:36:35 PM
City Hunter was a "champion"?
That's what I was thinking :-\
Well, he did kill a ton of people. :D
Hopefully it doesn't directly refer to CH as a champion.
Yeah, he wasn't a champion. He was a new guy out to prove himself to become one of the group.
Or, just going strictly by the film without the Thomas Brothers say, he was just another Predator on another hunt. Nothing special.
I can imagine City Hunter being a champion. He killed a shitload of armed to the teeth guys in close combat, eliminated Keys team with ease. He was also pretty smart, tracking Harrigan and the others in a big town, purposefully killing specific people to unsettle Harrigan even more and only ever got scratched by Harrigan himself.
Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.
There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.
Shane could have referred to Wolf as well... Wolf was already a champion when coming to Earth to take down the Predalien. And given that AvP and AvPR is now accepted by The Predator, we can not leave them out of sight.
Of course (and I'm at this side also) Shane referred to P1 and P2 when talking about 'champions'.
1:40 runtime - this is with credits?
Wolf was cool looking but he was no champion. He messed up more then what he accomplished.
Quote from: Alienon on Aug 01, 2018, 08:17:10 AM
1:40 runtime - this is with credits?
Most likely yes.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Aug 01, 2018, 06:00:09 AM
Yeah, he wasn't a champion. He was a new guy out to prove himself to become one of the group.
Or, just going strictly by the film without the Thomas Brothers say, he was just another Predator on another hunt. Nothing special.
I don't see no problem with CH being the Champion )))) Even so I am bias, he still could be a champion, like the Golden Glove level champion and not the WBC champion ;)
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 01, 2018, 06:59:31 AM
I can imagine City Hunter being a champion. He killed a shitload of armed to the teeth guys in close combat, eliminated Keys team with ease. He was also pretty smart, tracking Harrigan and the others in a big town, purposefully killing specific people to unsettle Harrigan even more and only ever got scratched by Harrigan himself.
Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.
There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.
Totally agree with you sir!
"Wolf was cool looking but he was no champion. He messed up more then what he accomplished."
Ahhh :) . How?. Pls explain.
He didn't stop Aliens, he didn't stop Predalien, he lost his weapons and humans acquired Predator tech because of him.
Wolf was the best predator champion out of all the friggin movies, what are you talking about Master?
His feats way surpassed all others, I mean just look at the rich history on his weapon/biomask display case, as well as his face (yes I suppose by virtue of the acid scar one could count that as he f'ed up...but he SURVIVED to tell the tale)
Quote from: Raoh76 on Aug 01, 2018, 12:49:57 PM
Wolf was the best predator champion out of all the friggin movies, what are you talking about Master?
His feats way surpassed all others, I mean just look at the rich history on his weapon/biomask display case, as well as his face (yes I suppose by virtue of the acid scar one could count that as he f'ed up...but he SURVIVED to tell the tale)
Well the props may insinuate one thing, but the story itself - way in which Wolf behaved i.e. his countless mess-ups - indicates otherwise. He may have been an ass kicker in his golden years, but AVPR suggests those days are gone. Still, he as a character is visually
very cool 8)
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 01, 2018, 06:59:31 AM
I can imagine City Hunter being a champion. He killed a shitload of armed to the teeth guys in close combat, eliminated Keys team with ease. He was also pretty smart, tracking Harrigan and the others in a big town, purposefully killing specific people to unsettle Harrigan even more and only ever got scratched by Harrigan himself.
Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.
There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.
True. I think this is good evidence that his tribe/clan/brethren held him in some positive regard.
Quote from: Raoh76 on Aug 01, 2018, 12:49:57 PM
Wolf was the best predator champion out of all the friggin movies, what are you talking about Master?
His feats way surpassed all others, I mean just look at the rich history on his weapon/biomask display case, as well as his face (yes I suppose by virtue of the acid scar one could count that as he f'ed up...but he SURVIVED to tell the tale)
I`m talking about facts.
Predators deciding to cheat and roid up. Wow they're like hackers on online games who make themselves invincible and then pretend they accomplished a hard fought victory.
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 01, 2018, 03:17:36 AM
Sorry, I agree with R.S on this one, and it doesn't help that the soundtrack is subpar and overbearing.
Also whoa whoa whoa somebody thinks the BR2049 soundtrack is subpar? To each their own but I thought it was one of the best soundtracks I have heard in a long time.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 01, 2018, 06:59:31 AM
I can imagine City Hunter being a champion. He killed a shitload of armed to the teeth guys in close combat, eliminated Keys team with ease. He was also pretty smart, tracking Harrigan and the others in a big town, purposefully killing specific people to unsettle Harrigan even more and only ever got scratched by Harrigan himself.
Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.
There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.
I agree with you, he just got too cocky in the end, like jungle hunter
Quote from: ChanceVance on Aug 01, 2018, 01:21:51 PM
Predators deciding to cheat and roid up. Wow they're like hackers on online games who make themselves invincible and then pretend they accomplished a hard fought victory.
They all cheat anyway. Invisibility, weaponry far in advanced of anything their prey has, specific vision modes to more easily identify prey...It's not inconceivable to me that others would take it even further. When we have the ability to safely do things like "upgrade" ourselves, you can be certain people will take that opportunity.
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Quote from: ChanceVance on Aug 01, 2018, 01:21:51 PM
Predators deciding to cheat and roid up. Wow they're like hackers on online games who make themselves invincible and then pretend they accomplished a hard fought victory.
They all cheat anyway. Invisibility, weaponry far in advanced of anything their prey has, specific vision modes to more easily identify prey...It's not inconceivable to me that others would take it even further. When we have the ability to safely do things like "upgrade" ourselves, you can be certain people will take that opportunity.
Yeah i agree, why some of them wouldn't ? Like humans, they can take things further indeed.
Slightly off topic, but predator style advert from Brownells guns inc.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj9bxGg9pvA
Quote from: ChanceVance on Aug 01, 2018, 01:21:51 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 01, 2018, 03:17:36 AM
Sorry, I agree with R.S on this one, and it doesn't help that the soundtrack is subpar and overbearing.
Also whoa whoa whoa somebody thinks the BR2049 soundtrack is subpar? To each their own but I thought it was one of the best soundtracks I have heard in a long time.
I don't think Hans Zimmer has composed anything worthwhile in his life, it's just an inferior version of Vangelis score that sounds like it was mixed in with a motorbike engine.
I think it's extremely disappointing that not only an excellent film like BR2049 has that score but also that we'll never get what Johann Johannsson would have composed for the picture.
May he rest in peace.
Quote from: ChanceVance on Aug 01, 2018, 01:21:51 PM
Predators deciding to cheat and roid up. Wow they're like hackers on online games who make themselves invincible and then pretend they accomplished a hard fought victory.
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 01, 2018, 03:17:36 AM
Sorry, I agree with R.S on this one, and it doesn't help that the soundtrack is subpar and overbearing.
Also whoa whoa whoa somebody thinks the BR2049 soundtrack is subpar? To each their own but I thought it was one of the best soundtracks I have heard in a long time.
I enjoyed BR2049, though it wasn't a patch on the original, but thought the soundtrack was very disappointing...
Whole BR2049 was dissapointing. Tried 3 times before I finally managed to get through it.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 01, 2018, 06:59:31 AM
Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.
That's because one of their own had died.
Greyback didn't look particularly pissed off at Harrigan for the killing. He gave Harrigan an Atta Boy and left.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 01, 2018, 06:59:31 AM
There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.
He slaughters a number of gang bangers, cops, and group of government agents, yes. But he's also incredibly sloppy. He leaves behind equipment, even when he doesn't have to (the spear tip) he openly engages these groups, showing no sign of stealth or concern, an dhe led Harrigan back to the tribes ship.
Not particularly pro.
Quote from: Raoh76 on Aug 01, 2018, 12:49:57 PM
Wolf was the best predator champion out of all the friggin movies, what are you talking about Master?
His feats way surpassed all others, I mean just look at the rich history on his weapon/biomask display case, as well as his face (yes I suppose by virtue of the acid scar one could count that as he f'ed up...but he SURVIVED to tell the tale)
What feats? The aliens in AVPR were weak pathetic pussies who couldn't even get out of the grip of his hand. A 10 year old predator could beat the shit out of those pathetic bugs. Yet despite that, and the predalien inexplicably not killing him whenever he had the chance, he still failed at his mission and left his tech all over town and just openly announced his presence to the world whenever he got the chance. Wolf's not a champion, he's the mentally handicapped kid on the short bus. At least city hunter used some stealth and skill.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Aug 01, 2018, 05:22:14 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 01, 2018, 06:59:31 AM
Also, the others seemed sad and acting pretty respectful when he got killed.
That's because one of their own had died.
Greyback didn't look particularly pissed off at Harrigan for the killing. He gave Harrigan an Atta Boy and left.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 01, 2018, 06:59:31 AM
There is never, ever an idication that he's a young Predator or anything, i go by what is actually shown in the movies, and this guy is an A-Class killing machine.
He slaughters a number of gang bangers, cops, and group of government agents, yes. But he's also incredibly sloppy. He leaves behind equipment, even when he doesn't have to (the spear tip) he openly engages these groups, showing no sign of stealth or concern, an dhe led Harrigan back to the tribes ship.
Not particularly pro.
In this case they are all not very professional, I mean first predator got killed by the tree, when he had so many chances, also left a lot of tech too. Second one did the same mistake (talking about his aggressive style is a little bit different. I mean Joe Frazier was famous for his more brawling style of fighting then Mohammed Ali's more slick style of fighting, but no body would say that Joe wasn't an amazing boxer) so talking about the style is a little bit off. And in the end it's all tools of the writing, they separated these two predators by different hunting styles. I don't see no new blood idea in these movies.
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 01, 2018, 04:03:59 PM
Quote from: ChanceVance on Aug 01, 2018, 01:21:51 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 01, 2018, 03:17:36 AM
Sorry, I agree with R.S on this one, and it doesn't help that the soundtrack is subpar and overbearing.
Also whoa whoa whoa somebody thinks the BR2049 soundtrack is subpar? To each their own but I thought it was one of the best soundtracks I have heard in a long time.
I don't think Hans Zimmer has composed anything worthwhile in his life, it's just an inferior version of Vangelis score that sounds like it was mixed in with a motorbike engine.
I think it's extremely disappointing that not only an excellent film like BR2049 has that score but also that we'll never get what Johann Johannsson would have composed for the picture.
May he rest in peace.
If you dislike Zimmer, I'm curious what composers you do enjoy? Aside from Johannsson, obviously, since you mentioned him!
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"So without getting into that, I think it's important to understand that maybe there are factions, and that we can choose one faction, let's say there's a particularly irritable group of Predators on Predator world and let's say that having bested their champions, not once but twice in the past, that they're not really happy with Earth, and so in that event it would make sense for them to strike back. And it might not be all Predators, but it is in particular a group of very angry Predators who aren't above maybe even cheating a little bit."
Not happy with Earth due to the deaths of 2 of them... really sounds like the upgrade got a big insecure predator ego, in the Predator 2 novel Pussyface was excited due to Anytime's death and that was what motivated him to come to Earth in the first place.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 01, 2018, 01:28:47 PM
They all cheat anyway. Invisibility, weaponry far in advanced of anything their prey has, specific vision modes to more easily identify prey...It's not inconceivable to me that others would take it even further.
For me it's the opposite now that you mention that, they are already so overpowered next to most prey due to all their assets so roiding just seem like it will end up taking all the fun of the challenge. I could see the Hish from the novels doing this, as they were space slavers, but hunters who enjoy challeging themselves... doesn't fit in for me.
Quote from: yautjapet on Aug 01, 2018, 05:59:24 PM
If you dislike Zimmer, I'm curious what composers you do enjoy?
Aside from Johannsson, obviously, since you mentioned him!
Jed Kurzel, Mica Levi, Elliott Goldenthal, Mark Griskey, Jack Wall, Sam Hullick, Clint Mansell, Michael McCann, Michael Kamen, John Ottoman, Marco Beltrami & Howard Shore.
There's going to be absolute reams and reams of additional, cut footage on the DVD release! It'll be the Alien 3 of Predator movies. Excellent!
*Wrote that before listening to the full interview, perhaps not hours of extras then... Interesting to hear him discuss the wider Predator culture, coincidentally been thinking about this a lot recently myself!
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 01, 2018, 06:51:00 PM
Quote from: yautjapet on Aug 01, 2018, 05:59:24 PM
If you dislike Zimmer, I'm curious what composers you do enjoy?
Aside from Johannsson, obviously, since you mentioned him!
Jed Kurzel, Mica Levi, Elliott Goldenthal, Mark Griskey, Jack Wall, Sam Hullick, Clint Mansell, Michael McCann, Michael Kamen, John Ottoman, Marco Beltrami & Howard Shore.
McCann and Hullick huh ? Mass effect and Deus Ex fan maybe ?
Quote from: Samhain13 on Aug 01, 2018, 06:48:35 PM
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"So without getting into that, I think it's important to understand that maybe there are factions, and that we can choose one faction, let's say there's a particularly irritable group of Predators on Predator world and let's say that having bested their champions, not once but twice in the past, that they're not really happy with Earth, and so in that event it would make sense for them to strike back. And it might not be all Predators, but it is in particular a group of very angry Predators who aren't above maybe even cheating a little bit."
Not happy with Earth due to the deaths of 2 of them... really sounds like the upgrade got a big insecure predator ego, in the Predator 2 novel Pussyface was excited due to Anytime's death and that was what motivated him to come to Earth in the first place.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 01, 2018, 01:28:47 PM
They all cheat anyway. Invisibility, weaponry far in advanced of anything their prey has, specific vision modes to more easily identify prey...It's not inconceivable to me that others would take it even further.
For me it's the opposite now that you mention that, they are already so overpowered next to most prey due to all their assets so roiding just seem like it will end up taking all the fun of the challenge. I could see the Hish from the novels doing this, as they were space slavers, but hunters who enjoy challeging themselves... doesn't fit in for me.
Nor with me. First they started out as hunting for sport, but now with the overpowered tech
and genetic upgrading, it certainly makes me question their angle in all this hunting business. Is it not for sport anymore? It makes them seem like big bullies in the schoolyard getting mad when some shrimp makes a snide remark. Sort of a disproportionate response to what has happened in the previous movies.
I wonder how much oversight Black had on the prequel novel Hunters and Hunted, because the pred in that is very enthusiastic about the danger of a hunt against challenging prey, and accepts that death is a possibility and that's just the nature of it. Which is much more in line with what I'd expect, not this "revenge" concept. Must not be from the same faction as Upgrade! I hope Upgrade and his ilk are the minority among predators.
Quote from: Wysps on Aug 01, 2018, 08:56:29 PM
Nor with me. First they started out as hunting for sport, but now with the overpowered tech and genetic upgrading, it certainly makes me question their angle in all this hunting business. Is it not for sport anymore? It makes them seem like big bullies in the schoolyard getting mad when some shrimp makes a snide remark. Sort of a disproportionate response to what has happened in the previous movies.
Yep and if the ones that are into upgrading don't want more predators dying to humans, maybe their main focus should be on improving how cocky they are :P.
If they are that good at dna and genes maybe they can remove whatever makes them so arrogant. That's what made the previous 2 lose, the issue wasn't their physical capacity, they are focusing on the wrong area.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 01, 2018, 08:46:27 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 01, 2018, 06:51:00 PM
Quote from: yautjapet on Aug 01, 2018, 05:59:24 PM
If you dislike Zimmer, I'm curious what composers you do enjoy?
Aside from Johannsson, obviously, since you mentioned him!
Jed Kurzel, Mica Levi, Elliott Goldenthal, Mark Griskey, Jack Wall, Sam Hullick, Clint Mansell, Michael McCann, Michael Kamen, John Ottoman, Marco Beltrami & Howard Shore.
McCann and Hullick huh ? Mass effect and Deus Ex fan maybe ?
I like Michael McCann best under his work as his alias as Behaviour actually. Double Agent has a great soundtrack. Though Deus Ex-HR is nothing to scoff at.
The original Mass Effect soundtrack still has the best of the three.
Hmm quite liked Human Revolution, but i totally agree on ME 1.
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 01, 2018, 10:14:19 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 01, 2018, 08:46:27 PM
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 01, 2018, 06:51:00 PM
Quote from: yautjapet on Aug 01, 2018, 05:59:24 PM
If you dislike Zimmer, I'm curious what composers you do enjoy?
Aside from Johannsson, obviously, since you mentioned him!
Jed Kurzel, Mica Levi, Elliott Goldenthal, Mark Griskey, Jack Wall, Sam Hullick, Clint Mansell, Michael McCann, Michael Kamen, John Ottoman, Marco Beltrami & Howard Shore.
McCann and Hullick huh ? Mass effect and Deus Ex fan maybe ?
I like Michael McCann best under his work as his alias as Behaviour actually. Double Agent has a great soundtrack. Though Deus Ex-HR is nothing to scoff at.
The original Mass Effect soundtrack still has the best of the three.
Jack Walls work for "Jade Empire" is Amazing!
That first paragraph is the first information about this movie since the whole time there have been news about this movie that is actually interesting and sounds good. We might even be getting a decent movie after all.
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 01, 2018, 10:14:19 PM
& Howard Shore.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 01, 2018, 08:46:27 PM
The original Mass Effect soundtrack still has the best of the three.
Yes indeed! I love ME's score...
I just thinking a few days ago about the AM/PM comment by Black. I wonder if they ever considered using color grading software in post production for the day scenes especially involving the APCs? Plenty of TV/Movies use this technique. I believe in season 2 of The Walking Dead in an episode where Shane goes with another guy to gather supplies at a school was all shot during the day but in the show it was presented as a night time scene using color grading.
Yes, day for night. Color grading like that often looks obvious and terrible.
Obvious and terrible wouldn't be new for TWD.
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 04, 2018, 06:54:19 PM
Obvious and terrible wouldn't be new for TWD.
TWD is a bad example. Anybody remember the cgi deer at the carnival area where Michonne thought Rick had been killed?
I'm surprised at how terrible it looks considering the series popularity I thought it would have a higher budget, or at least more professional work.
Perhaps they ran out of time.
Contrast that with this, a show cancelled due to its lack of popularity;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqZUbNcMekU&index=1&list=LLbkcXx-RwMKNuLWdWnGOE_A
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 04, 2018, 05:52:04 PM
I just thinking a few days ago about the AM/PM comment by Black. I wonder if they ever considered using color grading software in post production for the day scenes especially involving the APCs? Plenty of TV/Movies use this technique. I believe in season 2 of The Walking Dead in an episode where Shane goes with another guy to gather supplies at a school was all shot during the day but in the show it was presented as a night time scene using color grading.
When done properly, Day for Night works very well, but it still looks different from actual nocturnal lighting... I guess they didn't do that because the film already has so many scenes shot at night that applying Day for Night only on the third act would just make it look obvious side-by-side with the rest of the film.
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 04, 2018, 07:21:14 PM
I'm surprised at how terrible it looks considering the series popularity I thought it would have a higher budget, or at least more professional work.
Perhaps they ran out of time.
Contrast that with this, a show cancelled due to its lack of popularity;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqZUbNcMekU&index=1&list=LLbkcXx-RwMKNuLWdWnGOE_A
Oh god what a f**king great show ! Visually stunning ! Such a shame it was cancelled, when shit shows keep getting renewed... There's no justice in this world sometimes...
There's no justice in this world, constantly, that's no surprise. Bryan Fuller could do something excellent with Alien IMO, he's great at writing compelling characters with depth but can also do blood, monsters and tension exceptionally.
He's incorporated characters of various ethnicities, gender and sexuality genuinely.
No token characters.
Quote from: Xerxész on Aug 01, 2018, 07:11:45 AM
Shane could have referred to Wolf as well... Wolf was already a champion when coming to Earth to take down the Predalien. And given that AvP and AvPR is now accepted by The Predator, we can not leave them out of sight.
Of course (and I'm at this side also) Shane referred to P1 and P2 when talking about 'champions'.
AVP is non-canon (as far as I am aware), the only thing this new film has done as far as I know is simply reused some of the weapons, the shurikins.
Also Wolf is no champion, at least in terms of feats.
Quote from: Master on Aug 01, 2018, 08:25:40 AM
Wolf was cool looking but he was no champion. He messed up more then what he accomplished.
He definitely made things worse, not to mention he went off course a few times.
Quote from: Raoh76 on Aug 01, 2018, 12:49:57 PM
Wolf was the best predator champion out of all the friggin movies, what are you talking about Master?
His feats way surpassed all others, I mean just look at the rich history on his weapon/biomask display case, as well as his face (yes I suppose by virtue of the acid scar one could count that as he f'ed up...but he SURVIVED to tell the tale)
If by feats you mean releasing Xenomorphs, losing his technology, causing blackouts, then you're right, he argubly far surpasses the other Predators in terms of incompetence. He is supposed to be a cleaner, yet only makes things more messy. They really should have sent another Predator. :laugh:
He may look cool, have cool toys but Wolf was terrible at his job. I won't deny that in that crappy movie, he was one of the only entertaining things there, which I think is why some fans like him, simply because everything else was worse but when something is only good because everything else is worse then that should tell you something.
Quote from: The Cruentus on Aug 05, 2018, 08:22:29 PM
If by feats you mean releasing Xenomorphs, losing his technology, causing blackouts, then you're right, he argubly far surpasses the other Predators in terms of incompetence
Barring Wolf running straight for the nearest National News Reporter and taking a selfie with him live and on camera for the whole world to see, none will ever be as incompetent as City Hunter. Wolf was successfully tracking down and holding off several xenomorphs at once and even held his own against a predalien for as long as the fight lasted. As opposed to CH, who was getting his booty handed to him by an aging police officer, and losing equipment like it was last years fashions.
Wolf might not have been the ultimate predator, but at least he was the one doing the hunting, and not the one being hunted.
I did say arguably. CH was certainly reckless.
Wolf never successfully fended off Xenomorphs, they were were silly incompetent weak head bobbing things that only looked like Xenomorphs. :P
Also said creatures would not have needed to be tracked down if Wolf didn't release them in the first place. Hunting means tracking something that is trying not to be seen or at least someting not easily found, the "Xenomorphs" were not hiding, they were in plain sight to the point they were caught on camera and nearly every civilian was seeing them and was shooting at them. It would not require any effort to find them. So wolf successfully tracking them down is no feat.
I said before about how one can be defined by the quality of their enemies, look at Wolf's enemies.
Idk, if I had to choose between bobble-head xenomorphs and an aging cop, I'd probably choose the xenomorphs as the more hazardous and robust foe.
I'd be more afraid of an angry Danny Glover than big rubber ants.
They only looked like big rubber ants cuz my boy Wolf dominated them so thoroughly
In all seriousness, the one highly questionable thing Wolf did was hang up the skinned cop
Quote from: happypred on Aug 07, 2018, 04:58:39 AM
In all seriousness, the one highly questionable thing Wolf did was hang up the skinned cop
He's still a Predator though. He's got the urge. It's like sending John Wick after people and not expecting someone to get shot in the leg. It's bound to happen at some point.