Okay, i think an obvious one for me would be for me
Would be an Alien 3 style Led Works campaign with the corridors and whatnot. (AVP2 Had a Map like this)
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Quote from: Inverse Effect on Sep 23, 2021, 01:28:54 AM
Okay, i think an obvious one for me would be for me
Would be an Alien 3 style Led Works campaign with the corridors and whatnot. (AVP2 Had a Map like this)
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This could work, but ....you know theey said no go for movie adapted content. But there are TONS of one shot rooms in campaign one and two that they could make as side missions or strands of the main mission that could be similar to it.
If they opened up the game to side quests/ multi-character loadouts, we could have similar mission based stuff that might have objectives similar to that of alien3 but we will not get movie based stuff because, you know, ....they made their own universe man. they got to make us live it out.
Definitely Pala station, maybe something involving a xeno-infested UPP cruiser, the jungle and hunting cabin from the book
Yeah I have a feeling we're going to get a Pala station campaign at some point. We better get to actually fight the queen this time though. Hopefully she'll still be on her egg sac. Would be a cool visual with these graphics.
Agreed. Need to see Pala Station.
*Fireteam Elite Spoiler*
Spoiler
End of the game seems to tease it.
*Infiltrator Spoiler*
Spoiler
Maybe the white alien from Infiltrator could have survived. I was hoping to fight that thing.
Infiltrator also teased the hunting lodge without paying it off in any way.
I just hope we see these things in some horde mode maps at the very least. The one Horde Mode map we have is called "Mission 1", so we're obviously going to get more of those.
Would be really cool to see Charybdis, but I know they're focused on their own narrative.
Although we got to see the underside of the engineer ruins, we never really got to see the ruins from far away. Its underside was huge! I wonder if it resembled anything like the dome in covenant or the pyramids in Prometheus.
I think i'm down for anything that takes place on the planet and if its a different location cool. Pala Station is talked about mostly, so if we go there i wonder what its like as i haven't read the Infiltrator book yet.
I'm still hoping they do cinematic introductions to all the missions. I mean you can not do an Aliens game without a dropship or somekind of landing sequence.
I'm personally okay with the lack of cinematics... except for the ending.
Spoiler
We blow up a huge refinery and you can't even give us a 5-second clip of the explosion? It's so anticlimactic. Tension builds & builds until you escape and then... load screen and back to the calm Endeavor.
It would indeed be really cool if Pala Station has regions that look like the Fury 161 prison facility and lead works. We also need more hostile outdoor environments, and I could easily see the rocky and stormy kind of coastal environment seen in A3 on LV-895. I also hope we get to see the dog-catcher commandos from A3, albeit slightly more hi-tech of course. Dog-Catchers are already mentioned, so why not? That would be a perfect opportunity to introduce more electro-shock based weapons and maybe some kind of cryo spray/jet gun (cryo "flame"thrower if you will).
How about something short on the Endevour? A Horde Mode map or something.
Pala station is a given.
I did find it odd that we didn't get a variation on the classic Aliens colony at any point in the game. As it stands, we have locations that are based on Alien and the two prequels, but none from the movie it actually takes its title from (unless you count the Endeavor). Hopefully a Pala station campaign would address that, and I'm all for some areas that are based on the look of the refinery in Alien 3 as well. Some parts of the Katanga replicate the style of Alien 3 and Resurrection, to an extent, particularly in 1-3.
I'm expecting that when we do get Pala Station - and I hope it's one of any content update we get - that it'll be the Hadley's Hope kind of aesthetic. I'm expecting that to be one of the first ones we get, if we get any.
I'd also like to see some more Engineer-based locations, but I'd really like to see a more stronger narrative involved.
Fighting an Engineer would be cool, but would probably piss off some people as well.
I thought we would get an engineer and a queen boss in this game... but there was neither.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Sep 28, 2021, 01:30:04 PM
I thought we would get an engineer and a queen boss in this game... but there was neither.
Aye!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 28, 2021, 08:17:25 AM
I'm expecting that when we do get Pala Station - and I hope it's one of any content update we get - that it'll be the Hadley's Hope kind of aesthetic. I'm expecting that to be one of the first ones we get, if we get any.
I hope so. Among my community I play with, never have I've seen friends quit playing so quickly after a game's launch. Actually, I say before all this, give us a random level generator Cold Iron! Drop everything and focus your team on it! It would make all the difference I think!
Level maker for Horde mode would be fun!
Indeed!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 28, 2021, 01:52:07 PM
Level maker for Horde mode would be fun!
It would! Even if they were just larger modules that you could join together with corridors at pre-set points. I'd take a random map generator that worked the same way as well though, or both.
I want my Alien Queen Boss fight.
Something like this?
(https://i.ibb.co/nnxycSy/alien-five-neill-blomkamp-sigourney-weaver-1272268-1280x0.jpg)
Huh maybe a fight with the powerloader.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 01, 2021, 12:46:23 PM
Huh maybe a fight with the powerloader.
I actually personally wanted a powerloader available in some of the defense points on several levels (it's an "Aliens" game, right?), that is too big to leave the dias. And when you equip it, it makes you slower, but it's tankier and has an independent health, and when it runs out of health, it breaks, and your back on your feet. Something good to strap on when a 'miniboss' is coming.
lol! The Power loader was a go to for anything in the USCM including fighting xenos....slowly.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 01, 2021, 01:04:52 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 01, 2021, 12:46:23 PM
Huh maybe a fight with the powerloader.
I actually personally wanted a powerloader available in some of the defense points on several levels (it's an "Aliens" game, right?), that is too big to leave the dias. And when you equip it, it makes you slower, but it's tankier and has an independent health, and when it runs out of health, it breaks, and your back on your feet. Something good to strap on when a 'miniboss' is coming.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Oct 01, 2021, 01:34:15 PM
lol! The Power loader was a go to for anything in the USCM including fighting xenos....slowly.
It's not something the Marines would bring on missions, but it would be found on some levels, where it was originally used for loading.
And come on, in an "Aliens" game about fun, not realism, it wouldn't be fun to strap in a Powerloader and tank, smacking hordes of Aliens with its arm... or grab a Crusher by the neck as everyone else blasts it?
Just bring in the military variation.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 01, 2021, 02:44:04 PM
Just bring in the military variation.
That will work! :)
When i saw the suit i thought "yes, it would work well in an anime style" but the realistic film approach would probably be cringe.
If it were in this game, ....it would be slightly more interesting as we would be the ones using it. Games are games though. Nobody thought they would get Solid Snake to shoot toy frogs but they did.
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 30, 2021, 11:35:43 PM
Something like this?
https://i.ibb.co/nnxycSy/alien-five-neill-blomkamp-sigourney-weaver-1272268-1280x0.jpg
Everyone who knows Hideo Kojima learns not to be surprised by anything after a while.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 01, 2021, 02:44:04 PM
Just bring in the military variation.
Give us Alice or Max.
1. Procedural generated horde maps.
2. Colony+atmosphere processor campaign on the planet were weyland experimented with the pathogen on humans, creating the airborn variant David made and having it be overrun with backbursting Neomorphs and Aliens. Endboss: Neomorph Queen. Just to make it super weird lol.
Bleh. Doubt we will see any of it. There is redundant code in the datamining regarding "Patrols" with proc. generated maps linked to it, but this might all be very old code.
This game is fun, but very basic in it's core. But we can dream right?
Some day they will create the perfect Aliens game. I don't think this will be it though. Maybe part 2, who knows.
Set a whole campaign on Earth, why not.
1. Custom Games
2. Additional Campaigns
3. Play as the Alien(s)
4. Additional types to fight (Neomorphs etcetera)
5. Forge/Theater
6. Real Cutscenes
It'd be fun to branch out and explore some other locations from expanded universe too. I'd love to see Charybdis.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 04, 2021, 09:51:34 AM
It'd be fun to branch out and explore some other locations from expanded universe too. I'd love to see Charybdis.
Now you've got me interested in an Ataegina campaign lol.
That' definitely be a very different aesthetic!
I would love to see a dense, very built up urban area in the middle of an infestation, with partially hived back alleys and office buildings
I think those kind of ideas would be more for the sequel.
Just let me fight the queen..
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 07, 2021, 01:44:53 AM
Just let me fight the queen..
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I've been currently playing and loving "Ghostbusters : The Video Game" Remastered 2019 and I just got through this great boss fight and I was thinking during it.... this needed to be in "Aliens: Fireteam" dammit!
Quote from: Kimarhi on Oct 07, 2021, 01:31:02 AM
I think those kind of ideas would be more for the sequel.
While I had a blast playing it the first three weeks (way too short Cold Iron!), I'd personally want something different for our next entry in Alien(s) IP video games.
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I want other types of Alien games for sure, especially a single player focused game. However I'll also be super excited if a sequel is ever announced for FTE.
After beating the game I've slowed down myself. At my peak I was lucky to hit 5 hours a week, probably back down to 2 hours a week currently.
I was doing 3-4 hours a day! :D
Slow and steady probably wins the race though. :)
I won't lie, I think I get more enjoyment from games now that I don't have time to binge them like I used to.
It would be cool if they reveal something ASAP to counter Back 4 Blood's release next week. I feel like that's gonna be a bit of a death knell for AFE whatever they have in store anyway...
I'm still experiencing issues with matchmaking with or without my mate in a lobby with me. This whole time we haven't been able to find a third rando to play with - and when I sometimes dip in solo I would say finding a whole lobby is 60/40 probably in favour of it being empty, and subsequently playing with Alpha and Beta.
A new campaign would be fun - but you're looking at another hour and half of content that way. What it really needs is an exciting new game mode and a bunch of maps to accompany it.
It's a fantastic value game but we're approaching 2 months into its life cycle and one horde mode map is pretty embarrassing. I'm not a game dev, obvs, but surely they could whip some more maps up quickly? At least Predator HG had the excuse of the environments being f**king huge!
The game really needs more Horde Mode maps, 1 is just not enough.
3 other horde maps would add variety but it won't necessarily revitalize the gameplay.
There ultimately needs to be an element of pure dynamic outcomes which is hard when this game is already so linear.
some one suggested the follow that I think is part of the solution but really i dont see it changing the gameplay much
1. sealing doors- this i think would add a sense of dynamic resolution to an incoming wave but this only just turns off the wave.
2. a complex set of bridges which is not for you to walk on but to block xenos from coming or change the direction of wave on the fly. preferable on top of a boil vat of chemicals. this mechanic would allow you to speed up the destruction of a large number of waves coming in quickly. If you don't attend to the bridge, you will ultimately have to face all of the horde.
3. a complex set of vats that can mechanicall pour itself into an incoming wave of xenos. again this is similar to 2. but is esthetically different and pleasing.
4. a complex set of airlocks.....that essentially does the same as 2 and 3 but in less then stellar esthetics and probably less satisfying. So maybe scale these airlocks down in size. One can say a set of wind tunnels, spinning fans will be the same scale.
To say the least, there are these mechanics present in the Alien film universe that really haven't been tapped yet. So im hoping one day it will be put to good use.
48 Horde maps with each map having achievements for what difficulty you play on. That's how the first Killing Floor got people to come back over and over again.
It really does not matter what kind of map either. Simple 1 way corridors to defend an Operations from getting overwhelmed with Aliens. And make it 6 players.
"Duh... That's boring"
It's not... believe me it's not. It worked with our mod, it will work with this game.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Is there a timeline for the upcoming DLC?
Quote from: acrediblesource on Oct 10, 2021, 11:51:06 PM
3 other horde maps would add variety but it won't necessarily revitalize the gameplay.
There ultimately needs to be an element of pure dynamic outcomes which is hard when this game is already so linear.
Yeah, I've been sounding that alarm from the beginning. This game shipped DOA as an online service game. Without some sort of pvp or randomization mechanic, after you get through the campaign, there's nothing for players to keep coming back. This game just feels like an incomplete mess to me, but a fun mess at least, and I had a blast while it lasted! :)
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 11, 2021, 01:25:36 PM
Is there a timeline for the upcoming DLC?
When you purchased the Deluxe Edition (I was one of those suckers :laugh:) you got the Endeavor Pass which gives you Seasons 1 through 4 of the paid cosmetic DLC bundles. Considering Season 1 dropped
September 8th and using that for a seasonal framework, this would be my hypothesis:
December 8th - Season 2
March 8th - Season 3
June 8th - Season 4
The true take away for this game will have to be unique. With PHG its the salty behavoir based off of your PvP ....and its delightful in PHG. In AFTE, we are going to need something special in the PvE. The Environments, although very authentic, so far has yet to offer anything replayable in dynamic ways. I'm thinking lego and its going to have to be 'build it yourself' kind of feel.
i would have suggested dynamic gun fire damage to xenos (like a blown off head shot, left side, right side, jaw, or other extremityies) but it looks like the developers have looked beyond this. Its not likely at this stage that they will make visual damage a priority as it has in the original AVP games.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Oct 11, 2021, 07:12:48 PM
The true take away for this game will have to be unique. With PHG its the salty behavoir based off of your PvP ....and its delightful in PHG. In AFTE, we are going to need something special in the PvE. The Environments, although very authentic, so far has yet to offer anything replayable in dynamic ways. I'm thinking lego and its going to have to be 'build it yourself' kind of feel.
It would be interesting to say the least, perhaps wonderful, but it might be a gameplay mechanic too difficult to implement at this point of release. And what do game developers always say, the last 10% of a game takes 90% of the time with all the crashes, bug testing, fixes and tweaks?
One perhaps easier way to accomplish a desire for repeatability is have a horde map with four different defense points in one map that has an ammo box that randomly moves between waves, creating a race to locate the box and setup camp at a new location with less time than the new horde allows . Another way is randomize the horde waves. Horde Wave 3 might be Xenos this time, Revenants & Bursters the next. Or maybe it's Synths? Who knows. You'll never know what's coming. It's not a complete fix, but it's definitely a start.
There are some memorable horde moments in the campaigns too. So taking from that you also have a dynamic of having to run from A to B to C to tend to hordes while still maintaining a position. Running between an Upper and lower deck is cool. I like the idea of having to also maintain a welding position that maybe a door is malfunctioning and is constantly opening.
Welp, the one issue we have that they should have attended to was the breaking of achievements and the inability to make multiple loadouts (like a personality 2) which would have a face different than the one previous. We really needed that and would have prolonged peoples stay if each loadout was a full reset (as in lvl 0).
Seriously dedicated players would be more inclined to fine tune their own squad of 3-5 playable characters. Possibly even give them names at some point.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 11, 2021, 07:46:01 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Oct 11, 2021, 07:12:48 PM
The true take away for this game will have to be unique. With PHG its the salty behavoir based off of your PvP ....and its delightful in PHG. In AFTE, we are going to need something special in the PvE. The Environments, although very authentic, so far has yet to offer anything replayable in dynamic ways. I'm thinking lego and its going to have to be 'build it yourself' kind of feel.
It would be interesting to say the least, perhaps wonderful, but it might be a gameplay mechanic too difficult to implement at this point of release. And what do game developers always say, the last 10% of a game takes 90% of the time with all the crashes, bug testing, fixes and tweaks?
One perhaps easier way to accomplish a desire for repeatability is have a horde map with four different defense points in one map that has an ammo box that randomly moves between waves, creating a race to locate the box and setup camp at a new location with less time than the new horde allows . Another way is randomize the horde waves. Horde Wave 3 might be Xenos this time, Revenants & Bursters the next. Or maybe it's Synths? Who knows. You'll never know what's coming. It's not a complete fix, but it's definitely a start.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/kotaku.com/seven-weeks-after-launch-less-than-800-people-are-play-1847881309/amp
But of a depressing article. The game really needs a substantial content update but I bet Cold Iron are working their nuts off as it is....
yep, there certainly a chance the entire playerbase could come back overnight or several nights if they release something enourmous or game changing. Classes won't help there are already plenty of classes to choose from.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Oct 18, 2021, 01:28:05 PM
yep, there certainly a chance the entire playerbase could come back overnight or several nights if they release something enourmous or game changing. Classes won't help there are already plenty of classes to choose from.
You're absolutely right!
I've played Back 4 Blood and I genuinely think AFE is a funner game, bias aside. Sure, B4B looks better and seems to have more going on - but it isn't half as fun to play when you put the games at their peak side-by-side.
I'd rather Cold Iron take their time and release a significant update - I think a lot of players would come back.
But they need to be more vocal. Fricking radio silence since late August. At least the PHG channel seemed alive with daily tweets and road maps.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Oct 18, 2021, 01:28:05 PM
yep, there certainly a chance the entire playerbase could come back overnight or several nights if they release something enourmous or game changing. Classes won't help there are already plenty of classes to choose from.
Definitely. Gaming trends can change in a moment, especially if new content is substantial. There have been games (even big budget AAA ones) that have been on life support for a while that have jolted back with a new batch of content. Even ones that have had really rocky launches like No Man's Sky or The Avengers.
I still think this game has a future ahead of it, but I do hope they get on the new content quite soon. My guess is we'll see a more major update before December to spur on Holiday sales.
Quote from: seattle24 on Oct 17, 2021, 08:20:28 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/kotaku.com/seven-weeks-after-launch-less-than-800-people-are-play-1847881309/amp
But of a depressing article. The game really needs a substantial content update but I bet Cold Iron are working their nuts off as it is....
Skill Up had a good response to this on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/SkillUpYT/status/1449849782571208705
Though we don't have all the numbers, there's enough evidence that the game did sell well initially. So even if a sizable portion of its player-base is taking a break, they'll likely return quickly with new content.
Back 4 Blood's launch has also likely put a dent in active players for the moment, I've been enjoying it myself.
Personally when it comes to new campaigns, I think Pala Station is a given, with how much it's set up in the story. And as someone who didn't entirely dislike the book as my podcast co-hosts did, I would like to be able to explore that environment.
For another campaign, I think it would be cool to have to board different starships, as the story also sets that up. Such as a Weyland Yutani vessel or UPP one. Perhaps we could even fight off an infection on the Endeavor herself.
I think two new campaigns would be sufficient. Beyond that a PvP mode and expanded Horde maps with new features such as map exploration would help a bunch. Cross-play really would help as well.
I know Skill is trying? to put a more positive spin on this, but he's doing so by comparing A:FTE to other AAA "boondoggles" which are games that he considers failures / wastes of time? And he saying at least A:FTE didn't cost as much as those boondoggles and has more players currently then those boondoggles (even though the boondoggle games he's comparing to are older?)
The problem is AFTE hasn't even reached two months yet, and it really started dipping badly only 5 weeks after release.
What's really weird for me is I'm not a game developer but I saw right out of the gate that this game had a major flaw in sustainability. So if I could see it, the peeps at Cold Iron had to easily see it. That's why this game feels like a scenario (to me) where they ran out of cash, time or both... stopped where they were, polished up what they could, and released what they had. The original planned MMO announcement rings so true to me here.
Very fun game, but (to me) Cold Iron should have just made it an awesome single player experience and focused on doubling or trippling the levels and add a few cut scenes, and cut away all the extra classes, and gun skins resulting in a fun but half-assed online service game.
This game has my love, but deserves the tough love!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 19, 2021, 12:13:16 PM
I know Skill is trying? to put a more positive spin on this, but he's doing so by comparing A:FTE to other AAA "boondoggles" which are games that he considers failures / wastes of time? And he saying at least A:FTE didn't cost as much as those boondoggles and has more players currently then those boondoggles (even though the boondoggle games he's comparing to are older?)
The problem is AFTE hasn't even reached two months yet, and it really started dipping badly only 5 weeks after release.
What's really weird for me is I'm not a game developer but I saw right out of the gate that this game had a major flaw in sustainability. So if I could see it, the peeps at Cold Iron had to easily see it. That's why this game feels like a scenario (to me) where they ran out of cash, time or both... stopped where they were, polished up what they could, and released what they had. The original planned MMO announcement rings so true to me here.
Very fun game, but (to me) Cold Iron should have just made it an awesome single player experience and focused on doubling or trippling the levels and add a few cut scenes, and cut away all the extra classes, and gun skins resulting in a fun but half-assed online service game.
This game has my love, but deserves the tough love!
CL put a lot of stock into the challenge cards for varying the gameplay experience, but it obviously hasn't worked out as they hoped it would, because fans were banging their door after a couple of weeks saying "where is the new content at?"
Even this sub-forum for AFE is too quiet, where you'd expect the hardened fans to be active.
Hard core gamers or hard core fans? lol . there is a big difference.
Quote from: seattle24 on Oct 19, 2021, 12:45:38 PM
Even this sub-forum for AFE is too quiet, where you'd expect the hardened fans to be active.
Indeed!
To be fair this sub forum has never been active. Even before the release of the game there was almost no discussion. After release I went to reddit to discuss things like builds and modifiers because this place was a ghost town.
But yeah this game's player base is dead, especially since B4B was released.
Actually yeah B4B did put a major dent in the A:FTE player base, even if A:FTE release new content, it is in B4B shadow because it is more popular
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Oct 19, 2021, 03:19:42 PM
Actually yeah B4B did put a major dent in the A:FTE player base, even if A:FTE release new content, it is in B4B shadow because it is more popular
To be honest, the drop in the "Aliens: Fireteam Elite" player base occurred before Back 4 Blood. When did Back 4 Blood release, October 12th?
Even at October 3rd, roughly 1 month & 1 week after "Aliens: Fireteam Elite" was released, Cold Iron saw their Steam player base peak drop from 15,550 to 1,969... an approximate 88% drop. And by time October 11th came around, it was at 1,070.
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What is Sopranos ?
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 19, 2021, 04:25:47 PM
What is Sopranos ?
The highest of the four standard singing voices.
A question to consider is if Aliens: Fireteam Elite is even trying to be a live-service title with a constantly active player-base. Not every game is going for that approach nor should it.
What is odd is that Game Informer reported that it is not a live service title:
https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/06/23/aliens-fireteam-elite-gets-august-launch-date
"Although developer Cold Iron Studios designing Fireteam Elite with replayability in mind, it is not a live service game."
And GameSpot reported that it is:
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/aliens-fireteam-elite-captures-the-1986-film-and-goes-beyond-it/1100-6494197/
"Fireteam Elite is already poised to draw the most from the Aliens franchise of any game before it, and it seems to be in a unique position to tell an expansive, evolving Aliens story through a live-service game approach."
This confusion here is something we're planning on asking the devs about.
Just looking at the game itself one can see there's not enough for a stand-alone game and not enough for a live-service one, but their game pushes toward both and excels at neither. Hence its core problem I think.
Yeah it's really strange
I think it works as a proof of concept for live service. Add p2p, random horde maps, alternating defend points, map builder, variety of mission objectives and more campaign and I think you could have had a popular AAA live service Aliens game with a long life.
Unfortunately as it is, it doesn't really work for more than just a fun run through of the campaign.
New missions and enemy types as well, like a Advanced mutated alien from the goo, I know that there were one in the game but I was sort of hoping like extra limbs rather than a simple reskin. Some new maps for the horde mission. And A model viewer I mean They are probably not going to add something like this in but I would like to see the enemy types up close
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 20, 2021, 01:49:21 PM
Yeah it's really strange
I think it works as a proof of concept for live service. Add p2p, random horde maps, alternating defend points, map builder, variety of mission objectives and more campaign and I think you could have had a popular AAA live service Aliens game with a long life.
Indeed! And that would be so awesome!!!
Only 1 horde map is a bit ridiculous, especially for replayability.
Would something with only Drones and Warriors work with the way the game actually plays? If not, could it work if you toned down their damage-sponge aspects, removed their grapples, but upped their other damage?
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 19, 2021, 02:02:13 PM
To be fair this sub forum has never been active. Even before the release of the game there was almost no discussion. After release I went to reddit to discuss things like builds and modifiers because this place was a ghost town.
But yeah this game's player base is dead, especially since B4B was released.
Now Im speaking for myself but I guess one explanation why players are dropping off is: there is nothing left to do in the game once you beat the campaign 2-3 times, after that its ust repetition, unless one is a completeionist and want to unlock every small decal or whatever flash hider upgrade there is which isnt needed as one already by then have the optimum one for the pulse rifle and no need to change it. Horde mode is fun for 10 minutes after that its the same thing over and over again.
So beaten the game and nothing more to do: next game.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 19, 2021, 05:42:45 PM
A question to consider is if Aliens: Fireteam Elite is even trying to be a live-service title with a constantly active player-base. Not every game is going for that approach nor should it.
What is odd is that Game Informer reported that it is not a live service title:
https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/06/23/aliens-fireteam-elite-gets-august-launch-date
"Although developer Cold Iron Studios designing Fireteam Elite with replayability in mind, it is not a live service game."
And GameSpot reported that it is:
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/aliens-fireteam-elite-captures-the-1986-film-and-goes-beyond-it/1100-6494197/
"Fireteam Elite is already poised to draw the most from the Aliens franchise of any game before it, and it seems to be in a unique position to tell an expansive, evolving Aliens story through a live-service game approach."
This confusion here is something we're planning on asking the devs about.
Any news, RidgeTop?
Why are the social media channels for this game fricking dead! They need to drop this roadmap yesterday!
There is no roadmap. The season pass is our roadmap. Shaders decals and head gear. Or if you'd like Head Gear shaders and decals. Sometimes with a slight palette change. Occasionally a new patch number with fixes for bugs we never encountered before.
Maybe if were lucky they might add an incadencent glow to the game's menu screen text and label it an Upgrade in Visuals.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Oct 27, 2021, 03:59:22 PM
There is no roadmap. The season pass is our roadmap. Shaders decals and head gear. Or if you'd like Head Gear shaders and decals. Sometimes with a slight palette change. Occasionally a new patch number with fixes for bugs we never encountered before.
Maybe if were lucky they might add an incadencent glow to the game's menu screen text and label it an Upgrade in Visuals.
They've been teasing a roadmap on Twitter for the past couple of weeks. They said it will be revealed "soon"
And the Road Map has dropped! Lol
https://www.aliensfireteamelite.com/en/community/afe-year-1-roadmap/?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Post&utm_campaign=Roadmap
Wish for some other things Seattle! Quick! :laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 27, 2021, 05:16:36 PM
Wish for some other things Seattle! Quick! :laugh:
Don't worry I have the mandibles in Skulls sorted ;)
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Quote from: seattle24 on Oct 27, 2021, 05:40:55 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 27, 2021, 05:16:36 PM
Wish for some other things Seattle! Quick! :laugh:
Don't worry I have the mandibles in Skulls sorted ;)
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https://twitter.com/aliensfireteame/status/1453406192311668744?s=21 (https://twitter.com/aliensfireteame/status/1453406192311668744?s=21)
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Great things are coming this way
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Oct 27, 2021, 06:05:23 PM
https://twitter.com/aliensfireteame/status/1453406192311668744?s=21 (https://twitter.com/aliensfireteame/status/1453406192311668744?s=21)
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Great things are coming this way
You missed it on the page before!
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Let's hope! 🤞
Question is when season 2 is supposed to start or if its like they say: year 2, quite a long wait then xD I fear its too little too late.
Quote from: judge death on Oct 27, 2021, 09:14:34 PM
Question is when season 2 is supposed to start or if its like they say: year 2, quite a long wait then xD I fear its too little too late.
Season 2 sometime before year's end. Year 2 isn't confirmed as of now.
Please more Campaigns with each DLC, they should use the World War Z model.
Quote from: worriors on Oct 28, 2021, 09:28:29 AM
Please more Campaigns with each DLC, they should use the World War Z model.
WWZ had you buy each of the additional campaigns. Cold Iron have explicitly stated that no substantial gameplay elements (read classes, missions, etc) will require additional purchases, only cosmetics.
Quote from: The Necronoir on Oct 28, 2021, 03:13:04 PM
Quote from: worriors on Oct 28, 2021, 09:28:29 AM
Please more Campaigns with each DLC, they should use the World War Z model.
WWZ had you buy each of the additional campaigns. Cold Iron have explicitly stated that no substantial gameplay elements (read classes, missions, etc) will require additional purchases, only cosmetics.
The first year of WWZ had free DLC (which at launch they said all DLC would be free), including campaigns, horde mode, classses, etc... It wasnt until the second year when they started to have paid DLC3 and 4 which they have continued year on year.
So lets hope that in 2022 the rest of FT's DLC will be free.
So looks like we shouldn't be ruling out future campaign content. From yesterday's Q&A.
QuoteAzuvector — Today at 11:12 AM
#myquestion The format of Aliens: Fireteam Elite is setup in such a way that a vast amount of stories could be told with the game. (Colonial Marines cruising around the galaxy, stomping bugs (Probably mixed up with with other problems too.) The core gameplay loop is wonderful. The graphics, environmental craftsmanship and integration of the very murky Aliens lore are top notch. What are your long term plans for AFE?
A: Thanks for the kind words! Like I mentioned, all of Cold Iron is still working on the game and we've got a lot more stories to tell about the Endeavor and LV-895. I'd love to fully explain our entire future roadmap... but marketing would have my head. : )
Corporal Hicks — Today at 11:15 AM
#myquestion Are you able to talk about when we'll be seeing more campaign content or Horde mode maps? Thanks 🙂
A: The roadmap gives a bit of a look into that - Season 2 and 4 will have new Game Modes, which if you enjoyed Horde Mode, you'll like these - with some twists on the strategies, length, and location. Season 2 is fast approaching!
Yay! ;D
It's a bit contrary for me to be confident. He never says yes or no to more campaign. "we've got a lot more stories to tell about the Endeavor and LV-895" kind of makes me think more campaigns, but then the answer to you asking when we'll be seeing more campaign or more Horde maps, you're told "The roadmap gives a bit of a look into that - Season 2 and 4 will have new Game Modes, which if you enjoyed Horde Mode, you'll like these, with some twists on the strategies, length, and location."
I guess what I'm saying is "more stories to tell" could be found in the new Game Modes. And we know new features doesn't mean new maps or campaigns now.
I guess we'll see! :)
They did also specifically reference campaign missions in a different question. Nothing explicit, but enough to make me not so fretful after the roadmap.
QuoteDezhnev — Today at 11:07 AM
#myquestion Are you planning on including the APC (armored vehicle from the movie) or the dropship on future missions? It would be awesome to see more events like in Mission 2-1.
A: I agree that was awesome! Those vehicle moments were great in the Aliens film, it's in my mind when thinking about future campaign missions.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2021, 07:40:06 PM
They did also specifically reference campaign missions in a different question. Nothing explicit, but enough to make me not so fretful after the roadmap.
QuoteDezhnev — Today at 11:07 AM
#myquestion Are you planning on including the APC (armored vehicle from the movie) or the dropship on future missions? It would be awesome to see more events like in Mission 2-1.
A: I agree that was awesome! Those vehicle moments were great in the Aliens film, it's in my mind when thinking about future campaign missions.
Ah, yep, there we go. Let's hope at this stage they're doing more than thinking! :)
I'd like to have mystery campaigns that involve investigating the Weyland-Yutani Corporation. One would be a reconnaissance campaign in which the mission would be done covertly. The player would discover a lot of hair-raising secrets. Another investigative campaign would be done more loudly.
I'd also like to have some exploration campaigns, some rescue campaigns, and some protecting or escorting VIP / scientist / civilian campaigns.
And I'd like to have more complex maps (but it doesn't have to be too complex). And I'd like to have AI teammates like in the old Rainbow Six games. You can assign where they can follow you or from where they can cover you or guard any important zones.
Id like a campaign where you save hostages or civis and they all pile up on board the Endeavor and then you can trade them like hockey cards with other players because they have stats and stuff. Then if you're ship is overloaded, you can jetison them into space!
Wish they made it possible like you say: more interactive campaign, chose where to go, different kind of missions to chose from and day to day changes that makes you want to play more and have proper rewards for it than: Oh you get another useless skin for weapon you never use or some weapon part that dont add anything to the pulse rifle I already maxed out and wont ever change for anything else.
Add movies to the campaign and a proper ending and intro FFS, feels uncomplete the game and its now 7 months old wtf.
-Add the classic pulse rifle, I want my grenade launcher.
-Single missions that gives you a challenge, and some story/movie as reward.
- A more tactical mode where as someone else said: you can order your troops around, tactical thinking and placement. My dream would be one player plays as commander and boss people around and make the plan and mission we will do, 1-2 smart gunners, bunch of normal marines and try to play tacticaly and smart and not f**k up: killing the civilians we want to save or worse.
-Brings me to my biggest hope but wont happen: while on campaign you can encounter lost marines that you can recruit and chose to have as companion on missions instead of Alpha and Beta, like in Aliens infestation. Please give us the charachter: Zoe, cutter, kennedy. Then I would play the game nonstop to find her, and the other marines :D Have them onboard the mothership and talk to them etc.
As its now: I dont see a single reason to play the game, done the campaign, have my weapons I like, all new classes and weapons they add dont interest me at all, or another horde mode that dont give me any fun experience, or immersion into the alien world.
I only asked for one campaign mission and they said campaign mission only have one of the things that I want from this game
A real boss battle, instead of mini bosses have yourself finding an alien queen and taking it down.
Yeah they can make her tough to kill but there are also some other ways to battle her