Poll
Question:
Agree
Option 1: YES
votes: 3
Option 2: NO
votes: 45
Option 3: MIXED FEELINGS
votes: 3
Watch this video i know what they are saying most of it is funny but i have mixed feelings what do you think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOrphBFlDsg
Would disagree about it failing, because the presentation style is beautifully done. I would, however, agree, that it was stretched out far too long for what it is. It's not so much a scary experience as an immensely frustrating one, IMO. It's mostly a question of whether the individual player feels the presentation outweighs that.
The Alien AI is more difficult than they make it out to be, however. Not sure if that's because they were apparently on a console-based experience. Even on the easiest level on PC, permanently stealthing around, the thing still somehow knows where to find me.
Is there someone willing to just summarize the video for me because I cannot listen to them after three minutes into the video. Their attitudes are just too off putting and they failed to get me even remotely invested in their content so I really have desire of watching the full 20 MINUTE long video.
They do make many good points.
Quote from: Hennex on Aug 01, 2015, 12:33:00 AM
Quote from: Vermillion on Aug 01, 2015, 12:15:54 AM
They do make many good points.
Such as?
The door opening e.g the door montage they were right there was to much push this and turn that and if you think about near the end when Amanda tries to stop the explosion they make some kind of sense i had mixed feelings they had good points but they made it look like shit.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 31, 2015, 11:59:31 PM
Would disagree about it failing, because the presentation style is beautifully done. I would, however, agree, that it was stretched out far too long for what it is. It's not so much a scary experience as an immensely frustrating one, IMO. It's mostly a question of whether the individual player feels the presentation outweighs that.
The Alien AI is more difficult than they make it out to be, however. Not sure if that's because they were apparently on a console-based experience. Even on the easiest level on PC, permanently stealthing around, the thing still somehow knows where to find me.
The AI did glitch out and eventually you could make sense of it but it has great performance and great look better then ACM if the game was say 10 hours i think that would be enough.
Wasn't this that troll vid that was being posted on every A:I forum back when the game was lauched? The one where they said if you're looking for an Alien game better than A:CM, A:I wasn't it?
Shit? That's a laugh.
A:I not a perfect game. But when it works, it works extremely well. The audio-visual presentation alone merits it a rank much higher than merely "shit." Shit is reserved for a majority of the games you might find on an Angry Video Game Nerd episode, like Karate Kid, or Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Those are legitimately shitty games. But with Alien: Isolation, even if you don't like the kind of game that it is, it has a boatload of merits to lift it out the category and into something else. You can make the the argument for flawed masterpiece (my opinion) or overambitious-but-failed-experiment. Either would be more accurate.
Quote from: gabgrave on Aug 01, 2015, 12:30:49 PM
Wasn't this that troll vid that was being posted on every A:I forum back when the game was lauched? The one where they said if you're looking for an Alien game better than A:CM, A:I wasn't it?
I never heard of it.
Quote from: NickisSmart on Aug 01, 2015, 01:19:44 PM
Shit? That's a laugh.
A:I not a perfect game. But when it works, it works extremely well. The audio-visual presentation alone merits it a rank much higher than merely "shit." Shit is reserved for a majority of the games you might find on an Angry Video Game Nerd episode, like Karate Kid, or Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Those are legitimately shitty games. But with Alien: Isolation, even if you don't like the kind of game that it is, it has a boatload of merits to lift it out the category and into something else. You can make the the argument for flawed masterpiece (my opinion) or overambitious-but-failed-experiment. Either would be more accurate.
Do you think they were serious or were they were joking it was like they talked to each other and said hey everyone like AI likes found out the faults and take the shit out of it but i have to agree with the door montage.
I haven't watched the video but I can honestly say that in my opinion Isolation is the best Alien gaming experience I've ever had. What I look for in Alien games is to be scared and challenged as all my memories of the franchise revolve around my fear of the films and the early games.
I found the game to be such an immersive experience that I simply didn't want it to end. Having already played it a few times I was fully aware of how challenging it would be and so I went into the game with the correct mentality and knew how to play it and not get frustrated. Plus I appreciated the challenge and interpretation of the Alien.
There are obviously a few issues (I always thought Ripley was too loud when she got into the lockers) but it all trumped the actual experience for me.
The game had my heart pounding out of my chest <-- almost literally. But not quite. At times my heart was beating pretty hard.
The game set out to scare people and it scared the crap out of me. A+ in my book.
Quote from: NickisSmart on Aug 01, 2015, 01:19:44 PM
Shit? That's a laugh.
Weren't you the guy who made a 40 minute review on a review? :laugh:
I liked A:I as an alien game. I also think that the artifical intelligence of the xenomorph should stand as a blueprint for what xenomorphs should be like in potential future installments. It isn't shit; but for a casual gamer, it isn't anything above mediocre. I think one predominant factor that weighs the game down is probably CA's misconception that investing more time equals difficulty which mostly leads to accomplishing mechanical errands merely to progress. This type of approach to creating a challenge has been practiced since the 4th generation of gaming and has always been seen as a desperate resort to provide content in keeping the audience occupied. Hence this was probably why that aspect of the game was critically recieved.
Someone watched that? Yeah, that was me. It was IGN's low score of the game. It felt wrong to me, then. Feels wrong to me, now.
Corporal Hick's post mirrors my feelings about Alien: Isolation. It's the best Alien gaming experience. Though for me, I like to focus on it as Alien, not Aliens. It's the Ridley Scott love temple.
I agree with pretty much all of it. Annoying to watch those guys talk, but their points are valid. I still liked the game for the good qualities it has, however.
I watched about 90 seconds of this when it first debuted, and couldn't take any more. Didn't even get into their opinions. I just hated them so much.
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 04, 2015, 11:05:53 PM
I watched about 90 seconds of this when it first debuted, and couldn't take any more. Didn't even get into their opinions. I just hated them so much.
Quote from: PsyKore on Aug 04, 2015, 10:11:50 PM
I agree with pretty much all of it. Annoying to watch those guys talk, but their points are valid. I still liked the game for the good qualities it has, however.
They're not that bad. You could see them put effort in their production and try to entertain their audience.
Quote from: System Apollo on Aug 05, 2015, 01:53:04 AM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 04, 2015, 11:05:53 PM
I watched about 90 seconds of this when it first debuted, and couldn't take any more. Didn't even get into their opinions. I just hated them so much.
They're not that bad. You could see them put effort in their production and try to entertain their audience.
They're not that bad
to you. I found them profoundly annoying, and kind of sad in their attempt to look 'cool'.
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 05, 2015, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: System Apollo on Aug 05, 2015, 01:53:04 AM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 04, 2015, 11:05:53 PM
I watched about 90 seconds of this when it first debuted, and couldn't take any more. Didn't even get into their opinions. I just hated them so much.
They're not that bad. You could see them put effort in their production and try to entertain their audience.
They're not that bad to you. I found them profoundly annoying, and kind of sad in their attempt to look 'cool'.
They're too old to be doing what they're doing now that you mention it. :laugh:
I never got an impression they're trying to look cool to the audience. It's just a couple of friends sharing an opinion. It's no different to watch a Skype conversation.
That was really painful to watch. Sure, they have some points, but A:I being shit is pure drivel.
I haven't finished A:I yet because it is so hard, I don't have enough time to waste on video games, and the game is very frustrating and nerve wrecking. Despite all of that A:I is BY FAR THE _BEST_ ALIEN(S) GAME EVER. P E R I O D .
I would say Alien Resurrection on PS1 and Alien Isolation are both the best Alien games made. Interestingly, both games share a lot in common. But these games are proof that survival-horror can work very well for this series, despite them being flawed in many regards, it just needs to be refined and mastered.
The audio visual angle was perfect. It really was. They absolutely nailed the look and feel of Alien, while subtly marrying it to various elements from Aliens without sacrificing the Alien feel. It felt like the sequel to Alien that never happened in our universe, but some other one.
The gameplay is amazing up to a point -- right up until you have to go outside and repair the comms dish. Then, it becomes scripted event after scripted event, with long drawn out-sequences that involve a lot of slow walking and no actual gameplay of any kind. Up to a point, I wouldn't have minded, except the final sequence contains almost nothing else. Then there's the level design. It's linear and the alien creature(s) are much harder to avoid, forcing you to rely on your materials that you've stockpiled. In a nutshell, the stealth elements felt extremely lacking towards the end, and there isn't much to warn you that you need to save up. If you haven't, you're in big trouble. It's beatable, but a lot more frustrating because surviving the way you did, earlier on isn't really an option. You're thrust into a part of the ship you've never been in, before, and it doesn't support the same type of play that the earlier portions of the game did. As a short, section, it would have been alright, but it's longer than it needs to be.
The vent opening and closing sound is ridiculously eerie and creepy.
Speaking of the vents, my scariest deaths have been in them, just like Dallas. Nearly gave me a heart attack the first time around.
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 04, 2015, 11:05:53 PM
I watched about 90 seconds of this when it first debuted, and couldn't take any more. Didn't even get into their opinions. I just hated them so much.
You should still watch it to be open minded
Ha, I was just about to make a topic similar to this including this very same video but you beat me to the punch. Personally, I love RedLetterMedia and all the stuff they do. They are usually pretty straight up & genuine about how they feel about games, movies, whatever. Sometimes their views are harsh yea but "the truth hurts" as they say right? While I don't agree with everything they say about Isolation because I do like the game's story/atmosphere, I do have to agree with them about the gameplay. I do find it's comprised of way too much, "find this thing to open that door to find another item to open a door you previously couldn't & then repeat process for majority of the game & I find that extremely boring. I'm really bad at stealth type games so I've never been able to beat this game to find out the whole story. So while, I don't think the game is shit, I think I would have preferred it to just be a CGI movie kinda in the vain of those Resident Evil CGI movies which are good. Because of the game being more story driven than about gameplay, I'd rather watch it as a movie but that's me.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jul 31, 2015, 09:16:23 PM
Watch this video i know what they are saying most of it is funny but i have mixed feelings what do you think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOrphBFlDsg
Oh god, I watched this video around release day. I cringed soooo hard at them, I couldn't watch that much of it. All they did was play on easy mode and try their hardest to bash the alien AI. Either they were trying to big themselves up by bashing it, or they were trying to make the game look like another ACM disaster as click bait for their dumbass video. If I knew where those two lived, i'd personally go to their houses, knock on the door and punch them in the face then walk away.
Why not just show up with a chainsaw and a squirrel instead?
Alien isolation is the best thing to happen to this series since the 80's.
The game is excellent.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 01, 2016, 02:06:49 PM
Alien isolation is the best thing to happen to this series since the 80's.
The game is excellent.
Exactly that.^ I would also like to add the single player campaigns of Avp2 and every map even the player made ones.
I understand peoples love for avp2 but my heart forever belongs to avp99. ;)
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 01, 2016, 02:40:21 PM
I understand peoples love for avp2 but my heart forever belongs to avp99. ;)
me and you in a lonely world
Quote from: Nostromo on Oct 01, 2016, 09:52:00 AM
Why not just show up with a chainsaw and a squirrel instead?
They don't deserve the privilege of seeing that actually happen.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 01, 2016, 02:06:49 PM
Alien isolation is the best thing to happen to this series since the 80's.
The game is excellent.
I'm agreeing the atmosphere and story to the game are good but I hate the gameplay itself. I still feel uncomfortable with the whole "hold L2 to bring out your weapon, R2 to fire". I'm so used to games that do it the other way around with the 1's instead so I find myself fumbling the controls very often constantly trying to do it the way I'm used to. I know I'm in the minority that doesn't dig the game much though.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Oct 01, 2016, 02:55:11 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 01, 2016, 02:40:21 PM
I understand peoples love for avp2 but my heart forever belongs to avp99. ;)
me and you in a lonely world
I'm thinking one of the reasons is because AvP Classic 2000 shared similarities with the movies whereas AvP2 strayed in a completely different direction. Not sure if true but just sayin'.
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Quote from: Nostromo on Oct 01, 2016, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 01, 2016, 02:06:49 PM
Alien isolation is the best thing to happen to this series since the 80's.
The game is excellent.
Exactly that.^ I would also like to add the single player campaigns of Avp2 and every map even the player made ones.
:-*
I disagree that the alien wasn't modeled or animated well. I think it looks great.
I disagree that it isn't scary anymore because you can see it. The game makes the alien's presence nerve-wracking and I think they're ruining the game for themselves by being A.I. snobs.
I agree that the whole game becomes a tedious door opening, button-pushing fest.
I'm annoyed that I feel like I spend the majority of my time playing the game just sitting and waiting in lockers.
I love the atmosphere and nostalgia, and SO FAR, I like the story, but I'm only about a third of the way through and I stopped their review at the spoiler section.
They're very different games. 'AvP' was a great game for it's day and still very playable. 'AvP2' was moddable in ways that no other game in this series has ever come close to. 'ALIEN: Isolation' fully put the player into a situation where it was you vs the Alien in a cat mouse oriented game. When it was at it best not only was it as nerve wracking as f**k but did so better than any other game - 'ALIEN' or otherwise. All these games have their moments.
I felt 'AvP 2010' was a little bland and lacked inspiration. I haven't finished it.
'A:CM' was a terrible, terrible game. It lacked all the strengths of every 'ALIEN' game before or since.
-Windebieste.
I haven't watched the video, but Alien Isolation probably was the best Alien game for this time. I agree with Windebieste that AvP 2010 looked bland and ACM was terrible, especially the AI which made the Xenomorphs as idiot zombies replacement. Alien Isolation changed our perspective about the Alien. At the first time for non Alien fans or Aliens fans, you though that you could kill it, but you were wrong. It was unkillable and it was very clever. This game always give me terror at the first time, especially the Alien always learn from its encounter with you.
God... Rich Evans is the worst. He's best viewed when he's surrounded by the rest of the Red Letter Media crew and being mocked.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Oct 01, 2016, 02:55:11 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 01, 2016, 02:40:21 PM
I understand peoples love for avp2 but my heart forever belongs to avp99. ;)
me and you in a lonely world
I am with you guys.
I also preferred '99. 2 was great n' all, but the look was just a little too cartoony for my taste.
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 08, 2017, 08:44:16 PM
I also preferred '99. 2 was great n' all, but the look was just a little too cartoony for my taste.
I love them both for different reasons. I loved the gritty realism of the first. It is just dripping with the atmosphere of the two movies, and no game yet has made you really feel like you're the alien like AvP 99 did. I love the second because it has a great singleplayer, and because of it's more stylized graphics holds up really well years later. They're both so great.
As for previously recorded I agree with them most of the time, but here I just think it's more a matter of taste. They don't seem to interested in horror games that are very slowly paced, which to be fair A:I is. Can't say I agree with their feelings on the game, but I'm also a fan of slow burn horror and stealth games where you can just shoot all your problems away.
Quote from: newbeing on Aug 20, 2017, 12:05:22 AM
and no game yet has made you really feel like you're the alien like AvP 99 did.
This ten-thousand times. I remember playing it for the first time as Alien; clinging to the dark unseen while marines panicked as you picked them off. Man, it was so great. Such a shame AvP2 stripped the Alien of its gameplay.
AVP2010 and Alien Isolation are the best two Licence games we've gotten for the series in some 6 years lol
I think Rich's description of the game being a three hour game stretched out to ludicrous levels is pretty much spot on. The game is woefully full of filler, and the gameplay is pretty static. That's why they bash the game, because it's only real positive trait is the amazing work that was put into building the tense atmosphere and making the setting feel like the original movie.
I love the game. I enjoyed playing it on my first playthough. Though I haven't played it again ever since because... it was too damn long and tedious. I have, however, played the Survivor mode numerous times whenever I had a hankerin' for some good Alien gameplay.
Honestly, I wish it was longer. I love exploring the Sevastopol, even when it was just running around empty corridors. Gave me the feeling of ALIEN. I've played that game about 6 times.
I've only played it through twice (normal and hard) and I felt like I wanted more each time. The only reason I've not played it through again is because I believe they need doing in proper sittings so you can get absorbed in the game properly.
I liked the game however I didn't finish it, it's not a bad game however there are glitches that can mess with you such as the alien killing you where it can't reach you and androids that clip into walls don't get me wrong it's a pretty good game and heck scary at times but I stopped playing because of some glitches and sometimes it gets boring.
What platform are you playing on?
Xbox one
Completed it on PS4 first. Re-bought it on PC to play it at higher Graphics and at 60 fps. Great game. One of those games where its better on PC.