http://www.foxextras.com
Code: 47PTJU37F8VG83V5
Amended title and video added. Hicks.
Good stuff... a couple of new clips... young Weyland (or middle aged).
Too late, I guess. What was it?
Quote from: Protozoid on Apr 12, 2017, 06:25:13 AM
Too late, I guess. What was it?
Small featurette "The Next Chapter" linking Prometheus to A:C - Young Weyland, a few unseen shots... Oh, and that Juggernaut re-entry through the clouds ;)
Please tell me one of you saved these?
how to get that code?
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 12, 2017, 07:36:22 AM
how to get that code?
Possibly in a flyer in your Fox blu ray or dvd.
Ah.......off to the record store it is :D lol
LoL
Code seems to be working just fine. Location should probably be set to US
Quote from: puscyfer on Apr 12, 2017, 08:11:09 AM
Code seems to be working just fine. Location should probably be set to US
No, maybe post some pics?
Actually...working fine only from a mobile device for now... don't know why
QuoteThis redemption code has already been used the maximum number of times allowable. Please check the code on your insert and try again.
I get the same using my PC. Have you tried on your phone, Sil? I don't have mine to hand.
Quote from: puscyfer on Apr 12, 2017, 08:17:32 AM
Actually...working fine only from a mobile device for now... don't know why
Good, maybe post some pics?
Quote"This redemption code has already been used the maximum number of times allowable. Please check the code on your insert and try again"
...is the message I get on laptop and mobile from the UK :(
Troll thread obvious.
Considering Darth_Vile got in, I don't think puscyfer is being a troll.
FFS he is a Darth, its his job and way of life to throw us off.
I get the same 'maximum number' reached message. Oh, no bother.
I'll get out of bed tomorrow and it will be all over YouTube.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: Infected on Apr 12, 2017, 08:32:30 AM
Troll thread obvious.
No, not at all. The code only had a limited useage. I've got a few screenshots, but I can't save the video as I was watching on an iPad.
I'll post the pics ASAP
Quote from: SenseOfDoubt on Apr 12, 2017, 08:40:08 AM
Quote from: Infected on Apr 12, 2017, 08:32:30 AM
Troll thread obvious.
No, not at all. The code only had a limited useage. I've got a few screenshots, but I can't save the video as I was watching on an iPad.
I'll post the pics ASAP
Ok nice, thanks.
I screen (video) grabbed it on my mobile phone...saving it to google drive... youtube upload fails for some reason
Enjoy ^_^
Download it for better quality... 720p only though...
Thanks, i take my kind words back.
My apologises (or how you write it)
Awesome. Thanks for sharing! Some cool new footage in there.
Thank you for the effort! Quite a bit a new stuff in there.
This new footage is amazing. This movie looks a lot better than Prometheus, and I liked Prometheus.
Quote from: NickisSmart on Apr 12, 2017, 09:18:03 AM
This new footage is amazing. This movie looks a lot better than Prometheus, and I liked Prometheus.
Agreed. All the shots are absolutely beautiful. That said, I hope we get to see the movie in theatres before we've seen it all online! For a second I really thought they were going to show the backburster... glad they didn't.
Quote from: puscyfer on Apr 12, 2017, 08:45:47 AM
Enjoy ^_^
You're a top lad. Thank you. The new footage looks absolutely amazing.
Look at Walter in the end of the sneak, a scar (a bandage on his face)
This is awesome, love the way Walter talks. The Weyland scene should be a great setup
That Neomorph is fast... :o
That was awesome, thanks.
Oh and
Spoiler
WHY DOES STUFF COME OUT WHILE I AM SLEEPING!! >:( :) :laugh:
Any idea what the French says?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 12, 2017, 10:07:24 AM
Any idea what the French says?
It´s like in spain, to win a facehugger replica.
Spoilerish featurette?
Quote from: Stolen on Apr 12, 2017, 10:18:58 AM
Spoilerish featurette?
I wouldn't say so.
Also, SiL pointed out to me earlier that Muthur's voice sounds like a certain someone who was rumored to be involved.
At 1:04:
Spoiler
David and Shaw's ship it seems.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 12, 2017, 10:26:26 AM
Also, SiL pointed out to me earlier that Muthur's voice sounds like a certain someone who was rumored to be involved.
There are similarities in the voice for sure, even though it wasn't obvious to me until you pointed it out. Obviously they would have filtered her voice, enough for it not to be too distracting but not so much that you'd miss the Easter egg entirely ( mwahaha )... Do you think it's actually her?
EDIT : Actually, not even sure it's been filtered much at all. The "Walter" sounds exactly like her. It's awesome if she agreed to do it.
It's funny how FOX leaves little hidden things for us to stumble upon. :)
Spoiler
Interesting that the ship seems to come out of "lightspeed" in the atmosphere of the planet. Am I the only one that doesn't like that the ship flies backwards?
Quote from: Xenoscream on Apr 12, 2017, 11:03:31 AM
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Interesting that the ship seems to come out of "lightspeed" in the atmosphere of the planet. Am I the only one that doesn't like that the ship flies backwards?
Who's to say it's backwards? If the Derelict from Alien was a crashed ship, 99 times out a 100 an aircraft crashes nose first.
So that MUTHUR voice is who we think it is, right?
Well this new video kind confirms that the derelict ships can indeed travel through hyperspace, as the green pre-route traced to Earth seen in the hologram before the engineer takes off clearly implied to me.
This means that if Janek and their two officials hadn't committed martyrdom, the juggernaut would've arrived on Earth in just a matter of hours, probably minutes, and throw some epic LoLz upon us all in the form of black goo
Same for Shaw and Dadiv reaching paradise. Maybe they arrived over there in just one hour.
Let's see what the film tells us about all these points, and If Paradise is so far
Good featurette, some interesting new footage. I can't say I'm a fan of how the Juggernaut "popped" out of light speed though, looked a bit "Star Wars-y"compared to how it accelerated at the end of Prometheus.
Well, well. A decent amount to sift through there. Very cool to finally see Guy Pearce. I presume the Michael Fassbender interview footage is our first clear peak at David's look in the film, post-opening. Also, you guys are right on about MUTHUR's voice, the way she says "Walter" alone makes it clear.
Not bad but some worrying signs, 3:06 Ridley "will scare the living Shi{ out of people", word for word what he said about Promehteus in a featurette and that was about as scary as a Simpsons Haloween special.
Quote from: dave1978 on Apr 12, 2017, 12:13:33 PM
Not bad but some worrying signs, 3:06 Ridley "will scare the living Shi{ out of people", word for word what he said about Promehteus in a featurette and that was about as scary as a Simpsons Haloween special.
That's true, but promotion is promotion, you're not going to hear anybody involved say it's shit.
I think Covenant is, by all accounts, very much a reaction piece to the Prometheus criticism. People complained that it wasn't scary enough and that they wanted Aliens, so that's what he's done.
I had the same reaction when I heard him say "it will scare the living shit out of people", but in this case Covenant has been billed as a hard R, straight up horror movie for a while and the footage released so far supports the notion of the movie being intense. So in this case I don't think his comments are total bull ;D
Yeah, and considering those that witnessed footage recently tweeted about either changing their underwear once (figuratively, of course lol) or remarked at how scary the footage was, given those reactions it seems Covenant has a better chance at succeeding in the scares department.
Anyone notice the workshop...?
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Yep! I'm looking forward to seeing more of the workshop.
yes.
noticed a couple of things.
the ship's voice clearly is indeed Weaver's.
the Juggernaut indeed jumps out of hyperspace, cool. Also like that it's flying with the points backwards. Does explain how it hits the soil.
"Walter, location of unidientified lifeform"
- I didn't expect walter to be back aboard the ship when the Alien gets on. After all, Daniels asks Walter to check where the alien lifeform is.
that means walter too got off the planet and back up aboard the ship. It's probably David though, disguised as walter. Which is really interesting.
I didn't expect that to happen. that's great.
He also has clear facial scars. very cool.
"distant world on the far side of the galaxy'.
-Ten thousands of lightyears away it is.
"the crew discovers something that leads to serious cataclysmic events"
- planet will turn into lv-426 lol. yeah, i know this has been discussed. har har
Quote from: Bad Replicant on Apr 12, 2017, 11:55:20 AM
Also, you guys are right on about MUTHUR's voice, the way she says "Walter" alone makes it clear.
What's with the voice? I feel like i'm missing out on something here, please tell me guys!
Am I being silly or do Walter's neck scars clearly indicate...
Spoiler
...that he is David? The scars being where his head has been reattached?
Quote from: Bonus Situation on Apr 12, 2017, 12:53:39 PM
Am I being silly or does 'Walter's' neck scars clearly indicate...
Spoiler
...that he is David? The scars being where his head has been reattached?
Well Sagardoa said that:
Spoiler
David takes his place so it may be David your seeing.
Quote from: Bonus Situation on Apr 12, 2017, 12:53:39 PM
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...that he is David? The scars being where his head has been reattached?
If I remember correctly, David was "beheaded" below the neck, so no, the scars wouldn't be across his face.
Spoiler
But Walter is probably really David in that scene. I suspect Walter is injured at some point by a creature and the crew witness that, so David would have to cut himself in the exact same way in order to take Walter's place.
David and walter fight, perhaps.
Spoiler
Yeah the idea of David smuggling out in disguise after dealing with Walter sounds okish to me
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Yep! I'm looking forward to seeing more of the workshop.
That Neomorph head! Batshit crazy. :D
Hi Guys.
Can you make out more details than that ? I tried to edit and enhance the image @ work, maybe if i turn it negative the text would be more visible ?
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Quote from: Beardomorph on Apr 12, 2017, 12:58:10 PM
Quote from: Bonus Situation on Apr 12, 2017, 12:53:39 PM
Spoiler
...that he is David? The scars being where his head has been reattached?
If I remember correctly, David was "beheaded" below the neck, so no, the scars wouldn't be across his face.
Spoiler
But Walter is probably really David in that scene. I suspect Walter is injured at some point by a creature and the crew witness that, so David would have to cut himself in the exact same way in order to take Walter's place.
Yup, you're totally right its one scar on his cheek. I am being silly :P
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 12, 2017, 12:48:27 PM
yes.
noticed a couple of things.
the ship's voice clearly is indeed Weaver's.
It doesn't sound like her to me.
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 12, 2017, 01:26:28 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 12, 2017, 12:48:27 PM
yes.
noticed a couple of things.
the ship's voice clearly is indeed Weaver's.
It doesn't sound like her to me.
Half of it does, the other half doesn't. Which is pretty distracting for now.
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 12, 2017, 01:28:24 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 12, 2017, 01:26:28 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 12, 2017, 12:48:27 PM
yes.
noticed a couple of things.
the ship's voice clearly is indeed Weaver's.
It doesn't sound like her to me.
Half of it does, the other half doesn't. Which is pretty distracting for now.
Maybe it was intentional. Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's not her.
The one thing that still bugs me is David's hair (minimal, I know and probably nit-picky, but details are my thing). I get it that he dyes his hair in Prometheus, but everything we have seen thus far has him looking like Walter. I guess we haven't seen enough of David yet to make an honest determination, so maybe typing t his out has helped me temper my unrealistic expectations.
I remember, a few months back, when rumors of Weaver's involvement surfaced that (and this has been debunked already so no spoiler tags are needed) Daniels is Ripley's mother. Could it have been then that the rumor could have been that Ripley/Weaver's voice is the MUTHUR of Daniels' ship (a stretch I'm sure)?
Edit: Thank you to The Alien Predator for catching my mistake; post has been amended.
We first heard of it in mid-Feb on here. There's the link : http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=56354.0
Quote from: lv_226 on Apr 12, 2017, 01:56:47 PM
The one thing that still bugs me is David's hair (minimal, I know and probably nit-picky, but details are my thing). I get it that he dyes his hair in Prometheus, but everything we have seen thus far has him looking like Walter. I guess we haven't seen enough of David yet to make an honest determination, so maybe typing t his out has helped me temper my unrealistic expectations.
I remember, a few months back, when rumors of Weaver's involvement surfaced that (and this has been debunked already so no spoiler tags are needed) Ripley is Daniels' mother. Could it have been then that the rumor could have been that Ripley/Weaver's voice is the MUTHUR of Daniels' ship (a stretch I'm sure)?
I thought it was the other way round.
Time travel in Alien: Covenant confirmed.
Doesn't sound like Sigourney to me.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 12, 2017, 08:34:55 AM
Considering Darth_Vile got in, I don't think puscyfer is being a troll.
It was definitely live when I took a look. The main take away was David asking Weyland "if you made me, then who made you?".
Edit - good. Looks like everyone has seen it now.
I'm still wondering where David found paper, pencils, and those fancy failed experiment display pedestals. :-P
Is it me or is the story the same as Prometheus?
Structurally, from what we know so far, it sounds more like Alien than Prometheus. But it does feel like a re-try of Prometheus with reusing a lot of Jon Spaihts' elements.
Awesome!
Seems as a 'stitch' of Prometheus and A:C trailers, although Prometheus looks visually brilliant and A:C, quite raw. At the end, it makes Prometheus look like a classic, which it is.
Perhaps
Spoiler
David got that scar from fighting with Walter.
Or perhaps it's from a facehugger?! #WaltermorphAlsoConfirmed :laugh:
Quote from: shawsbaby on Apr 12, 2017, 02:30:14 PM
I'm still wondering where David found paper, pencils, and those fancy failed experiment display pedestals. :-P
via the resources of a newly deceased civilization. :P
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 12, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
Perhaps Spoiler
David got that scar from fighting with Walter.
Possibly.
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 12, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 12, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
Perhaps Spoiler
David got that scar from fighting with Walter.
Possibly.
Spoiler
That would make no sense as that would mean the final switcheroo twist isn't a twist. If David gets a scar from fighting Walter, then the audience would know it's David in the last part of the movie, and I'm fairly sure from the leaks that we're not supposed to know this is David.
The more probable outcome is that Walter gets cut at some point and that David must cut himself to look like him.
Unless it happens off screen, and the audience has no way to tell whether David or Walter gets cut in the face... then yes, David could get that scar from an off screen confrontation with Walter.
My money is on the first option ;D
Quote from: Beardomorph on Apr 12, 2017, 03:18:21 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 12, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 12, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
Perhaps Spoiler
David got that scar from fighting with Walter.
Possibly.
Spoiler
That would make no sense as that would mean the final switcheroo twist isn't a twist. If David gets a scar from fighting Walter, then the audience would know it's David in the last part of the movie, and I'm fairly sure from the leaks that we're not supposed to know this is David.
The more probable outcome is that Walter gets cut at some point and that David must cut himself to look like him.
Unless it happens off screen, and the audience has no way to tell whether David or Walter gets cut in the face... then yes, David could get that scar from an off screen confrontation with Walter.
My money is on the first option ;D
Spoiler
Yeah, you're right. Unless we don't see the fight.
Quote from: Beardomorph on Apr 12, 2017, 03:18:21 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 12, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 12, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
Perhaps Spoiler
David got that scar from fighting with Walter.
Possibly.
Spoiler
That would make no sense as that would mean the final switcheroo twist isn't a twist. If David gets a scar from fighting Walter, then the audience would know it's David in the last part of the movie, and I'm fairly sure from the leaks that we're not supposed to know this is David.
The more probable outcome is that Walter gets cut at some point and that David must cut himself to look like him.
Unless it happens off screen, and the audience has no way to tell whether David or Walter gets cut in the face... then yes, David could get that scar from an off screen confrontation with Walter.
My money is on the first option ;D
Spoiler
According to leaks Walter is killed off-screen
This just continues to get better and better! I don't remember being even this amped for Prometheus. The visuals look exquisite. 8)
Do Androids Dream of Electric Death?
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 12, 2017, 03:25:04 PM
Quote from: Beardomorph on Apr 12, 2017, 03:18:21 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 12, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 12, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
Perhaps Spoiler
David got that scar from fighting with Walter.
Possibly.
Spoiler
That would make no sense as that would mean the final switcheroo twist isn't a twist. If David gets a scar from fighting Walter, then the audience would know it's David in the last part of the movie, and I'm fairly sure from the leaks that we're not supposed to know this is David.
The more probable outcome is that Walter gets cut at some point and that David must cut himself to look like him.
Unless it happens off screen, and the audience has no way to tell whether David or Walter gets cut in the face... then yes, David could get that scar from an off screen confrontation with Walter.
My money is on the first option ;D
Spoiler
According to leaks Walter is killed off-screen
Yes, but
Spoiler
the cut right on the face seems too obvious to be something that happens off screen. If I was writing that thing - I know, I'm not ;D - it would make sense to give the cut to Walter so that the audience can't even suspect that it might be David later on. Quite a few people on here have commented that the switcheroo was a bit "on the nose" as a concept, plus I remember the guy from the original leak not understanding that it was David at the end... so my point is that for the switcheroo to be really effective it would have to be Walter who gets the cut on screen and David who does it to himself off screen.
Fine, I just want David to be enough of a crazy villain that they'd throw in some evil self-mutilation for good measure. Is that too much to ask? ;D
Quote from: dave1978 on Apr 12, 2017, 12:13:33 PM
Not bad but some worrying signs, 3:06 Ridley "will scare the living Shi{ out of people", word for word what he said about Promehteus in a featurette and that was about as scary as a Simpsons Haloween special.
Knew someone would say this again. I mean obviously Covenant is a proper Alien film. Obviously it is horror. It's very obvious.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Apr 12, 2017, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: dave1978 on Apr 12, 2017, 12:13:33 PM
Not bad but some worrying signs, 3:06 Ridley "will scare the living Shi{ out of people", word for word what he said about Promehteus in a featurette and that was about as scary as a Simpsons Haloween special.
Knew someone would say this again. I mean obviously Covenant is a proper Alien film. Obviously it is horror. It's very obvious.
Plus, Ridley has been around the game for a while, he is merely helping sell/hype up the film.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 12, 2017, 03:00:57 PM
Or perhaps it's from a facehugger?! #WaltermorphAlsoConfirmed :laugh:
Oh my! :laugh:
Quote from: The_Foxcatcher on Apr 12, 2017, 02:58:23 PM
Awesome!
Seems as a 'stitch' of Prometheus and A:C trailers, although Prometheus looks visually brilliant and A:C, quite raw. At the end, it makes Prometheus look like a classic, which it is.
If one can take a step back from analyzing Prometheus to death I think that there is a really intriguing film underneath. However, some of the edits made near the end of the 2nd/beginning of the 3rd act, always bother me upon re-watch—to which I should add some of the camera work during the introduction of Fifield and Milburn in the ampule room (its the shot of them looking up at the head, it just.... doesn't sit well with me—the rest of the scene is shot extremely well). That being said, the film feels really huge, and the set design....
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Claiming that 'Prometheus' supposedly remains "very scary" is not an optimistic sign. Seems to be further confirmation he still doesn't seem to acknowledge it had any real flaws.
It's not like he's ever going to publicly say "it was deeply flawed" or "pure shit"* just to satisfy a corner of the Internet. That's not what most filmmakers at that level do.
(* - not necessarily characterizations I agree with on either count, though I do think the film is flawed)
Wow, every look at A:C gets more amazing, the visuals looks incredible.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 12, 2017, 03:00:57 PM
Or perhaps it's from a facehugger?! #WaltermorphAlsoConfirmed :laugh:
Haha...
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 12, 2017, 04:41:46 PM
Claiming that 'Prometheus' supposedly remains "very scary" is not an optimistic sign. Seems to be further confirmation he still doesn't seem to acknowledge it had any real flaws.
Yeah,
Prometheus was about as scary as a old school
Scooby Doo episode.
But I have to admit that
A:C looks pretty menacing.
I wouldn't expect him to disparage Prometheus while promoting the sequel. :P
I think there's fair indication that he felt there were course corrections to be made in Covenant, whether he'd explicitly admit that or not.
I'd have to disagree to some extent about Prometheus not being scary. In retrospect the situations presented to the characters in Prometheus, I think were just as frightening as the situations the characters dealt with in Alien. We as an audience have definitely become desnsitized to a degree and I think that's partially to blame. It takes a lot more to scare us when watching a film. I guarantee that if I had a giant worm alien wrapped around my arm attempting to break it, I sure as hell won't be reminded of that time Scooby Doo was being chased by the mummy!
That being said, there's a whole lot of elements that need to seemlessly mesh to make you truly fear what is happening on screen.
The only "frightening" part about Prometheus was the scene where Shaw aborts the trilobite. That was creepy.
Could Prometheus have hit the head of the nail a tad better when it came to being genuinely frightening? Sure, it could have. The tonal atmosphere created by sound, music, and dialogue could've made what was happening on screen all the more frightening.
I think it's scarier than Aliens and probably about as scary as Alien 3.
The first is simply a materspiece in how it plays with your psyche.
Quote from: Coalesced Chaos on Apr 12, 2017, 05:32:37 PM
I think it's scarier than Aliens and probably about as scary as Alien 3.
Aliens is an extremely intense film. I think it's almost too exciting to be genuinely scary. But it's head and shoulders above Prometheus in every regard. The premise of Prometheus is creepy, but whereas Aliens is too exciting to be frightening I personally feel Prometheus is too dull.
Aint read most of this thread. But is this clip(s) spoiler heavy? I've only watched the first 2 trailers and the TV spots and seen the leaked alien creatures from late last year, of the facehugger and the Neomorphs head with the rip in its lip. I'm now trying to keep away from anymore spoilers ect ect. So can i watch this clip or should i avoid? I don't mind if it's nothing spoiler heavy and just other shots of things we already know about.
Is the audio awful on this or is it just my system ?
Quote from: JCDenton on Apr 12, 2017, 01:16:34 PM
Hi Guys.
Can you make out more details than that ? I tried to edit and enhance the image @ work, maybe if i turn it negative the text would be more visible ?
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Sorry for the bump, but i think this is the Paradise planet, and if someone can enhance these letters it would be very good :)
Quote from: Tyler HC on Apr 12, 2017, 05:50:57 PM
Is the audio awful on this or is it just my system ?
I think it's the way it was recorded.
Quote from: JCDenton on Apr 12, 2017, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: JCDenton on Apr 12, 2017, 01:16:34 PM
Hi Guys.
Can you make out more details than that ? I tried to edit and enhance the image @ work, maybe if i turn it negative the text would be more visible ?
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Sorry for the bump, but i think this is the Paradise planet, and if someone can enhance these letters it would be very good :)
Surface g-force.
Surface temperature.
02 Level.
Nitrogen Level.
Moons- 02.
Argon.
Rotation Speed.
Axis Angle.
Mass 7.22 x 10
Diameter 2350 or 2250
Mean Density 5520
Quote from: Beardomorph on Apr 12, 2017, 03:38:18 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 12, 2017, 03:25:04 PM
Quote from: Beardomorph on Apr 12, 2017, 03:18:21 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Apr 12, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Apr 12, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
Perhaps Spoiler
David got that scar from fighting with Walter.
Possibly.
Spoiler
That would make no sense as that would mean the final switcheroo twist isn't a twist. If David gets a scar from fighting Walter, then the audience would know it's David in the last part of the movie, and I'm fairly sure from the leaks that we're not supposed to know this is David.
The more probable outcome is that Walter gets cut at some point and that David must cut himself to look like him.
Unless it happens off screen, and the audience has no way to tell whether David or Walter gets cut in the face... then yes, David could get that scar from an off screen confrontation with Walter.
My money is on the first option ;D
Spoiler
According to leaks Walter is killed off-screen
Yes, but Spoiler
the cut right on the face seems too obvious to be something that happens off screen. If I was writing that thing - I know, I'm not ;D - it would make sense to give the cut to Walter so that the audience can't even suspect that it might be David later on. Quite a few people on here have commented that the switcheroo was a bit "on the nose" as a concept, plus I remember the guy from the original leak not understanding that it was David at the end... so my point is that for the switcheroo to be really effective it would have to be Walter who gets the cut on screen and David who does it to himself off screen.
Fine, I just want David to be enough of a crazy villain that they'd throw in some evil self-mutilation for good measure. Is that too much to ask? ;D
Yeah I get your point and agree.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 12, 2017, 04:41:46 PM
Claiming that 'Prometheus' supposedly remains "very scary" is not an optimistic sign. Seems to be further confirmation he still doesn't seem to acknowledge it had any real flaws.
It's a promo material. What do you want him to say? Prometheus wasn't scary and it's flawed? Come on :) He has to say those things but I wouldn't mind him using different words. It's always the same.
I think Prometheus pulled a few too many punches (possibly due to the studio's concern about a hard R) and could've gone all in on the body horror and scarier monsters. I think it was a mistake going with Ape Fifield over CG Alien Fifield; I think the scene with Milburn and the snake was far too short. Any time (other than the medpod sequence) where something creepy or gross popped up - Mutant Holloway, etc. - it was dead or gone in seconds. (The Fifield sequence also feels like it's on fast-forward, and I don't think we've ever seen the original sequence where Shaw runs him down.) That was a mistake IMO and so was the cheesy stinger with the Deacon. If a giant alien is going to show up Shaw should've fought it.
I think the medpod scene stands up to Alien and is one of the most viscerally gutwrenching sequences in the franchise. I like the film a lot for its new ambition and new ideas, though not all of them are properly realized. I think the leads are great. Flaws aside I thought it was the right direction to take the franchise - further outward, beyond just that one alien, going somewhere new.
As others have said I think Covenant is a very clear course correction based on feedback to Prometheus. The question is in what ways. Certainly in terms of horror and violence, it seems to have a lot more stuff that I'd wanted in Prometheus in that respect. But what I know of the actual plot and storyline feels extremely derivative of the previous entries in the franchise, much more safe and generically crowdpleasing. I also feel the direct prequelization with the alien and potential developments with David cheapen both that character and Alien as a film. I think that is totally unneeded and I feel the likelihood that they're dumping virtually everything new from Prometheus save Fassbender is a copout.
You can have gruesome space horror and still go in a new direction. The last film did. I don't feel this one, from what I've seen thus far, does. But it was a good business decision for Ridley and for the studio, and I'm sure it will be a fun time. It looks fantastic style-wise and the horror is all there. I expect to enjoy it, but I also expect to be disappointed creatively.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 12, 2017, 07:28:43 PM
I think Prometheus pulled a few too many punches (possibly due to the studio's concern about a hard R) and could've gone all in on the body horror and scarier monsters. I think it was a mistake going with Ape Fifield over CG Alien Fifield; I think the scene with Milburn and the snake was far too short. Any time (other than the medpod sequence) where something creepy or gross popped up - Mutant Holloway, etc. - it was dead or gone in seconds. (The Fifield sequence also feels like it's on fast-forward, and I don't think we've ever seen the original sequence where Shaw runs him down.) That was a mistake IMO and so was the cheesy stinger with the Deacon. If a giant alien is going to show up Shaw should've fought it.
I think the medpod scene stands up to Alien and is one of the most viscerally gutwrenching sequences in the franchise. I like the film a lot for its new ambition and new ideas, though not all of them are properly realized. I think the leads are great. Flaws aside I thought it was the right direction to take the franchise - further outward, beyond just that one alien, going somewhere new.
As others have said I think Covenant is a very clear course correction based on feedback to Prometheus. The question is in what ways. Certainly in terms of horror and violence, it seems to have a lot more stuff that I'd wanted in Prometheus in that respect. But what I know of the actual plot and storyline feels extremely derivative of the previous entries in the franchise, much more safe and generically crowdpleasing. I also feel the direct prequelization with the alien and potential developments with David cheapen both that character and Alien as a film. I think that is totally unneeded and I feel the likelihood that they're dumping virtually everything new from Prometheus save Fassbender is a copout.
You can have gruesome space horror and still go in a new direction. The last film did. I don't feel this one, from what I've seen thus far, does. But it was a good business decision for Ridley and for the studio, and I'm sure it will be a fun time. It looks fantastic style-wise and the horror is all there. I expect to enjoy it, but I also expect to be disappointed creatively.
Yeah, I agree with you 1000%. Just..
this.
That was a good video. It's gave me some hope for this movie. Did anyone else notice the scare down the left side of Walters face? It seems like they are focused on ONE alien as some of the scenes we saw.
It would be great to have more of these types of features leading up to the movie.
Bri :o
I have a hunch that the scene with young Peter Weyland and David will be phenomenal
Quote from: salomonj on Apr 12, 2017, 08:45:38 PM
I have a hunch that the scene with young Peter Weyland and David will be phenomenal
Agree. I think It's going to give alot of context to david's actions in Covenant
When Ridley says that Prometheus is scary I don't think he's referring to immediate danger but rather the implications of genocidal creation. The themes are scarier than the scenes. I don't know if that makes any sense, but I think in a purely visceral way that Covenant will be terrifying in ways Prometheus was never meant to be.
What is scary is highly subjective, it's almost not worth debating.
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Quote from: salomonj on Apr 12, 2017, 08:45:38 PM
I have a hunch that the scene with young Peter Weyland and David will be phenomenal
Agree. I think It's going to give alot of context to david's actions in Covenant
For sure. The dialogue is gonna be really, really good. I'm also so happy they casted Guy Pearce for Weyland. I've been a fan of him since Memento and I think he's as good a actor as Fassbender.
I didn't know that the crew of the Covenant was going down on the planet to investigate a distress signal. I thought the planet they land on was their final destination.
It's always great to see new footage :) But at this point, I think I'm going to play it safe, and just read the plot summary on Wikipedia when the movie premieres. I'd rather know what I'm paying for. Prometheus was a film that was wonderfully shot, and looks absolutely beautiful. As a purely Science Fiction Piece, it's a well done. All due respect to Ridley, but the only thing scary about it was the bad script. No matter how excited I get to see covenant, I can't shake the feeling that this film is an attempt to make-up for Prometheus. Prometheus with Aliens, is still Prometheus. I sincerely hope Fox decides to move the franchise forward; I' It's time to let them have the Alien.
Don't you hate it when you're re-writing something and accidentally post it. The last sentence was suppose to read, "it's time to let someone have a go at Alien 5". ;D
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 12, 2017, 10:20:28 PM
I didn't know that the crew of the Covenant was going down on the planet to investigate a distress signal. I thought the planet they land on was their final destination.
Are you serious??
Based on what the featurette tells us, I suspect the crew does give real thought to colonizing the planet despite it not being their original destination. That seems to be what the conversation between Oram and Daniels is about.
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Correction it actually is 7 moons!! :o
cool, about time they talk about it being a sequel, but i wont watch it, i will rather watch Prometheus sometime between today and the release of Covenant
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Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 12, 2017, 10:20:28 PM
I didn't know that the crew of the Covenant was going down on the planet to investigate a distress signal. I thought the planet they land on was their final destination.
Are you serious??
Yeah, I haven't been keeping up with any spoilers or leaks.
C'mon FOX upload the official already!!! Every news outlet in the world has the nasty audio version. On the plus side avpgalaxy is being pimped out!
Love the
Spoiler
shots of David's failed creations!
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Correction it actually is 7 moons!! :o
Where are you seeing seven? There looks to be a Moons entry on the planet profile but it's very blurred. Does it say '07'?
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Correction it actually is 7 moons!! :o
Where are you seeing seven? There looks to be a Moons entry on the planet profile but it's very blurred. Does it say '07'?
It looks like 07.
I like how Ridley shows a Peter Weyland older than how he looked on Ted Talk.
Quote from: John Doe on Apr 12, 2017, 11:56:32 PM
I like how Ridley shows a Peter Weyland older than how he looked on Ted Talk.
Well, the AI stuff did happen after the TED talk.
That running neo tho
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on Apr 13, 2017, 01:49:39 AM
That running neo tho
Would someone be willing to get a screenshot of it? I just don't want to watch the whole video.
It's like 3 minutes long.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 12, 2017, 04:49:45 PM
It's not like he's ever going to publicly say "it was deeply flawed" or "pure shit"* just to satisfy a corner of the Internet. That's not what most filmmakers at that level do.
(* - not necessarily characterizations I agree with on either count, though I do think the film is flawed)
There's a difference between not bad-mouthing something and actively upholding it as an example of what he considers to be scary. This potentially has direct consequences for the direction of this new film. The concern has always been that this sequel might simply give us more of the same, rather than acknowledging the predecessor's flaws and trying to correct/improve upon them.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Apr 12, 2017, 05:02:03 PM
But I have to admit that A:C looks pretty menacing.
In fairness, so did the first '
Prometheus' trailer, which ultimately sold us a
very different atmosphere to what we actually got.
Is it supposed to be choppy? its like watching a webcam.
I maybe wrong, but it looked more like the Juggernaut just drastically slowed down from some sort of hyper speed mode.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 13, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
There's a difference between not bad-mouthing something and actively upholding it as an example of what he considers to be scary. This potentially has direct consequences for the direction of this new film. The concern has always been that this sequel might simply give us more of the same, rather than acknowledging the predecessor's flaws and trying to correct/improve upon them.
That's just not what 90% of major studio filmmakers do with films like this.
Prometheus was flawed but it wasn't
Plan 9.
I personally am skeptical about the film on some levels and don't think
Covenant is likely to be the greatest thing since sliced bread myself, but I can recognize when you're putting an undue and unrealistic expectation on a commercial filmmaker in their PR blitz. It's simply not realistic to expect a major filmmaker to go out there on the press junket when he did the last one as well and say 'I want angry nerds to know I have heard them and I apologize.' He's not a politician caught in a sex scandal. A studio wouldn't allow that. What you're talking about does not generally happen except in select cases.
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 13, 2017, 04:20:05 AM
It's like 3 minutes long.
Guess I just meant I didn't want to watch it in case of any spoilers beside the Neomorph.
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Yeah, I nag now. Don´t wanna spoil the show, but me not so happy with the little Neomorph CGI here. At least in these snippets it looks terrible obvious digital. :/
Well, might be not the final material we see here. Let´s hope.
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Correction it actually is 7 moons!! :o
Where are you seeing seven? There looks to be a Moons entry on the planet profile but it's very blurred. Does it say '07'?
It looks like 07.
Thank you. I wanted this to end once and for all the idea that Paradise could be LV-426. That`d be the dumbest thing ever - even beyond AvP:R.
The planet parameters are all different from LV-426, so THIS IS NOT the same planet/moon ;)
. .i have watched it like 4 times and it's great. .my anticipation is sky high!. .yet their is one thing i keep missing. .were do you c the running neo?. .i have seen the sceenshots. .but were exactly is it in the featurette?
Quote from: juxtapose on Apr 13, 2017, 11:37:14 AM
. .i have watched it like 4 times and it's great. .my anticipation is sky high!. .yet their is one thing i keep missing. .were do you c the running neo?. .i have seen the sceenshots. .but were exactly is it in the featurette?
At the 30 second mark ;)
okaaay. .actually it's around 25 seconds. .i slowed it down dramaticly to get a proper look. .but yeah it's fast. .almost too fast. . .i hope we get a proper look in the film itself. .
Like what I'm seeing, but I'm still not sold on this after Prometheus.
Looking forward to seeing how it turns out, though.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 13, 2017, 12:37:50 PM
Like what I'm seeing, but I'm still not sold on this after Prometheus.
Looking forward to seeing how it turns out, though.
Now you tell us. :laugh:
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 13, 2017, 12:55:32 PMNow you tell us. :laugh:
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:P
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 13, 2017, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 13, 2017, 12:55:32 PMNow you tell us. :laugh:
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:P
:laugh:
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Yeah, I nag now. Don´t wanna spoil the show, but me not so happy with the little Neomorph CGI here. At least in these snippets it looks terrible obvious digital. :/
Well, might be not the final material we see here. Let´s hope.
I have to disagree. The effects are blending in really well with the backgrounds and characters. Given the budget, it seems like they are really trying to make a top-notch product (Prometheus also LOOKED great—nay fantastic!).
Can anyone decipher what Ridley says after dread?
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Yeah, I nag now. Don´t wanna spoil the show, but me not so happy with the little Neomorph CGI here. At least in these snippets it looks terrible obvious digital. :/
Well, might be not the final material we see here. Let´s hope.
You must be nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking. How is it obvious cgi? Because you know neomorphs dont actually exist? Obvious cgi would be Malabolgia from the Spawn movie. The cgi in this, even if unfinished during these clips, will be top of the line
"dread ... you know something just terrible is about to happen".
Quote from: zoidy on Apr 13, 2017, 04:24:15 PM
"dread ... you know something just terrible is about to happen".
Ah, thank you
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Is that when the ship explodes? Feel bad for the guy next to it if that's the case.
I need to listen to this with better speakers, but I think it's just a Weaver sound-alike.
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Is that when the ship explodes? Feel bad for the guy next to it if that's the case.
Spoiler
Probably the aftermath. The images are set in the wheat field.
I want to watch this but the audio is so poor. I presume an official video will be posted with working audio shortly?
Quote from: Ultramorph on Apr 13, 2017, 05:03:34 PM
I need to listen to this with better speakers, but I think it's just a Weaver sound-alike.
it's 100% Sigourney Weaver. Which i like, and then at the same time, don't like for obvious reasons.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Apr 13, 2017, 05:03:34 PMI need to listen to this with better speakers, but I think it's just a Weaver sound-alike.
Maybe what's her-face who played Ripley in the
Out of the Shadows audio drama? She sounded scarily like Weaver.
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 13, 2017, 05:44:27 PM
Quote from: Ultramorph on Apr 13, 2017, 05:03:34 PM
I need to listen to this with better speakers, but I think it's just a Weaver sound-alike.
it's 100% Sigourney Weaver. Which i like, and then at the same time, don't like for obvious reasons.
Is it too much?
If it is Weaver it's different enough that it shouldn't be a distraction.
Still don't think it's her. I'd know that voice anywhere (or not).
It's good to see Walter appears to be a good guy, judging by him helping Daniels and Tennessee search for the xeno back on the Covenant.
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I need to listen to this with better speakers, but I think it's just a Weaver sound-alike.
it's 100% Sigourney Weaver. Which i like, and then at the same time, don't like for obvious reasons.
Is it too much?
I like Weaver voicing, as the character has so much legacy in the movie, and she somewhat 'belongs' in the series, and it's above awesome she is able to work with Ridley. Nostalgic-wise, it's off the charts.
but if we step aside from that 'weaverfanboism', then it's not so great at all.
First of all, her voice is too recognisable. Even if she's older and trying to sound a tad different, and a bit computerized, i can distinctly hear her voice being 'muther'. That's strike A > Muther had a different voice, and then, Weaver actually communicated as Ripley with Muther in Alien. So that somehow makes her communicate to her own voice. which is just lunatic. B > The same 'huge' character from a total of 4 movies also has to voice in and be part of prologues to Alien, when the reality is she is already born in the Covenant movie.
There has been talk and rumour of Weaver getting somehow involved with the movie, then there were some more mentions of that and there were some rumours that she would be voicing muthur, and now all of a sudden we actually hear 'muther' aboard the covenant calling for david in a clear distinguishable Weaver voice. It's Weaver 100%.
also, mentioned in the other thread, and possibly posted in the wrong thread;
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3432056/new-featurette-reveals-ripleys-connection-alien-covenant/
i don't like the idea of ripley voicing 'muthur' in this mention. it's dumb beyond words. but again, it's too obvious that it's weaver.
My thoughts on the matter:
QuoteMuther had a different voice, and then, Weaver actually communicated as Ripley with Muther in Alien. So that somehow makes her communicate to her own voice. which is just lunatic.
What?
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 13, 2017, 04:42:43 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 13, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
There's a difference between not bad-mouthing something and actively upholding it as an example of what he considers to be scary. This potentially has direct consequences for the direction of this new film. The concern has always been that this sequel might simply give us more of the same, rather than acknowledging the predecessor's flaws and trying to correct/improve upon them.
That's just not what 90% of major studio filmmakers do with films like this. Prometheus was flawed but it wasn't Plan 9.
I personally am skeptical about the film on some levels and don't think Covenant is likely to be the greatest thing since sliced bread myself, but I can recognize when you're putting an undue and unrealistic expectation on a commercial filmmaker in their PR blitz. It's simply not realistic to expect a major filmmaker to go out there on the press junket when he did the last one as well and say 'I want angry nerds to know I have heard them and I apologize.' He's not a politician caught in a sex scandal. A studio wouldn't allow that. What you're talking about does not generally happen except in select cases.
Again, nobody's saying he needs to publically apologise. There's a difference between that and effectively saying, 'I still regard this earlier thing as a
superb example of how to scare audiences.'
This has direct consequences for how this newer film will come across, considering he's repeatedly claiming he'll "scare the shit out of" us quote as before.
It's relatively trivial, but is no less concerning. We know he said on set something like, "They wanted Aliens? I'll give them f**king Aliens..." It came across as spiteful, rather than doing it because he has a passion for them.
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on Apr 13, 2017, 03:44:05 PM
You must be nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking. How is it obvious cgi? Because you know neomorphs dont actually exist? Obvious cgi would be Malabolgia from the Spawn movie. The cgi in this, even if unfinished during these clips, will be top of the line
Locusta knows what he's talking about. He's not only a professional CGI artist, but was responsible for the creature art in the recent '
Weyland-Yutani Report' book.
And, going by those still images, I'd have to agree. It won't necessarily matter if their split-second fleeting glimpses, but if it's an indication of how they'll look in all scenes, they could very easily cause an 'uncanny valley' effect. It all depends on if there has been much post-production work on them.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 13, 2017, 10:21:31 PM
Again, nobody's saying he needs to publically apologise. There's a difference between that and effectively saying, "I still regard this earlier thiing as a superb example of how to scare audiences."
I don't think he's saying that. I think you're reading into it your own issues with
Prometheus. Which are valid enough to have, but I don't think they have much to do with Ridley Scott daring to say he thinks his previous space horror movie was scary. Of course he's going to say that.
QuoteIt's relatively trivial, but is no less concerning. We know he said on set something like, "They wanted Aliens? I'll give them f**king Aliens..." It came across as spiteful, rather than doing it because he has a passion for them.
What was the context?
Am I the only one who thinks this trailer (splicing prometheus and covenant together) was the leaked description of a trailer from last year?
I think the guy who leaked it had a buddy who worked as an editor or something. I mean, minus the shower/nudity scene, this pretty much is exactly what was described then before any trailer was ever available.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 13, 2017, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Apr 13, 2017, 04:42:43 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 13, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
There's a difference between not bad-mouthing something and actively upholding it as an example of what he considers to be scary. This potentially has direct consequences for the direction of this new film. The concern has always been that this sequel might simply give us more of the same, rather than acknowledging the predecessor's flaws and trying to correct/improve upon them.
That's just not what 90% of major studio filmmakers do with films like this. Prometheus was flawed but it wasn't Plan 9.
I personally am skeptical about the film on some levels and don't think Covenant is likely to be the greatest thing since sliced bread myself, but I can recognize when you're putting an undue and unrealistic expectation on a commercial filmmaker in their PR blitz. It's simply not realistic to expect a major filmmaker to go out there on the press junket when he did the last one as well and say 'I want angry nerds to know I have heard them and I apologize.' He's not a politician caught in a sex scandal. A studio wouldn't allow that. What you're talking about does not generally happen except in select cases.
Again, nobody's saying he needs to publically apologise. There's a difference between that and effectively saying, 'I still regard this earlier thing as a superb example of how to scare audiences.'
This has direct consequences for how this newer film will come across, considering he's repeatedly claiming he'll "scare the shit out of" us quote as before.
It's relatively trivial, but is no less concerning. We know he said on set something like, "They wanted Aliens? I'll give them f**king Aliens..." It came across as spiteful, rather than doing it because he has a passion for them.
Quote from: Ragonk_Force on Apr 13, 2017, 03:44:05 PM
You must be nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking. How is it obvious cgi? Because you know neomorphs dont actually exist? Obvious cgi would be Malabolgia from the Spawn movie. The cgi in this, even if unfinished during these clips, will be top of the line
Locusta knows what he's talking about. He's not only a professional CGI artist, but was responsible for the creature art in the recent 'Weyland-Yutani Report' book.
And, going by those still images, I'd have to agree. It won't necessarily matter if their split-second fleeting glimpses, but if it's an indication of how they'll look in all scenes, they could very easily cause an 'uncanny valley' effect. It all depends on if there has been much post-production work on them.
So do I. Keep in mind those stills are of the creature moving very fast and through dark areas, you can hardly tell by those stills if the cgi isnt up to snuff. Im pretty confident the finished film will make everyone happy, at as far as the cgi goes
Quote from: SM on Apr 13, 2017, 09:49:07 PM
QuoteMuther had a different voice, and then, Weaver actually communicated as Ripley with Muther in Alien. So that somehow makes her communicate to her own voice. which is just lunatic.
What?
did you read the entire sentance? IF ripley=weaver voiced MUTHER, then she talks to her own voice in alien. After all, MUTHUR in Covenant, MUTHUR in ALIEN. David communicates with MUTHER (Ripley's Voice), Ripley communicates with MUTHUR. thus, if MUTHUR = ripley, she's essentially talking to her own voice in ALIEN.
what i'm saying is it is stupid that weaver voices muthur.
Each ship could have its own muthur though. :-*
Also different model numbers may have different voices. Wasn't it MUTHUR 3000 or something.
6000.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 13, 2017, 10:21:31 PM
It's relatively trivial, but is no less concerning. We know he said on set something like, "They wanted Aliens? I'll give them f**king Aliens..." It came across as spiteful, rather than doing it because he has a passion for them.
Spiteful? How do you know? You weren't there. You didn't see him saying that. Therefore you didn't see his facial expression and didn't hear tone of his voice. Maybe he was joking and having fun. Only because he said
They wanted Aliens? I'll give them f**king Aliens doesn't mean he's wasn't passionate about making
Covenant.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 13, 2017, 10:21:31 PM
It's relatively trivial, but is no less concerning. We know he said on set something like, "They wanted Aliens? I'll give them f**king Aliens..." It came across as spiteful, rather than doing it because he has a passion for them.
You can be passionate about filmmaking and have disdain for the general audience. You can see in every shot released so far how beautiful the movie looks. There are plenty of shots that made me go "wow, this is very well done" or "wow, he framed that amazingly" so clearly passion for the film isn't an issue for Scott. He does come across as having quite a lot of disdain for audiences who don't "get" his movies, which is sort of understandable for an artist whose work keep being spat on only for it to be reassessed to great acclaim down the line.
Having the Aliens in the movie apparently wasn't his idea, but once he accepted the idea I think he embraced it. I personally found that the footage we saw from Covenant so far is a lot "prettier", colourful and inventive than anything from Prometheus, so it looks like Scott had a better time doing his thing on Covenant than he did on Prometheus. The way he plays with the ship's design in this movie to make beautiful creative shots... he did that in Prometheus, but a lot less ( as far as I remember anyway ). 2001 inspiration seems to have really ignited something in him for this movie.
Quotedid you read the entire sentance? IF ripley=weaver voiced MUTHER, then she talks to her own voice in alien. After all, MUTHUR in Covenant, MUTHUR in ALIEN. David communicates with MUTHER (Ripley's Voice), Ripley communicates with MUTHUR. thus, if MUTHUR = ripley, she's essentially talking to her own voice in ALIEN.
what i'm saying is it is stupid that weaver voices muthur.
I read the entire sentence and your clarification just indicates it had little merit in the first place.
The two MUTHUR models are 20 years apart. So what if they have a different voice?
The Ripley of Alien has aged 38 years and is acting anyway and doesn't sound the same. GPSs have different voices and I can't imagine SIRI will sound the same in 20 years time. What a non-issue.
No one makes an issue out of William Hope having an acting role in 'ALIENS' and a voice acting role in 'ALIEN: Isolation' and they were completely different characters in different time frames as well. Well, actually now that I think of it, he's done a ton of voice acting within this property. 5 different times, maybe?
So what if Weaver has a voice acting role of muthur in 'ALIEN: Covenant'. I don't see what the big deal is here.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: SM on Apr 14, 2017, 09:43:22 AM
Quotedid you read the entire sentance? IF ripley=weaver voiced MUTHER, then she talks to her own voice in alien. After all, MUTHUR in Covenant, MUTHUR in ALIEN. David communicates with MUTHER (Ripley's Voice), Ripley communicates with MUTHUR. thus, if MUTHUR = ripley, she's essentially talking to her own voice in ALIEN.
what i'm saying is it is stupid that weaver voices muthur.
I read the entire sentence and your clarification just indicates it had little merit in the first place.
The two MUTHUR models are 20 years apart. So what if they have a different voice?
The Ripley of Alien has aged 38 years and is acting anyway and doesn't sound the same. GPSs have different voices and I can't imagine SIRI will sound the same in 20 years time. What a non-issue.
it's a non-issue to you, but it isn't to me.
Let's compare it to the Terminator universe.
Imagine James Cameron will make a prequel to all the Terminator films that we have. Let's take that 20 years 'in between' negates everything nonsense and say, the movie takes place 20 years before the original, so it's in the 60's. Let's say there is a narrator or a radiostation on, and the person narrating/doing a talkshow IS Arnold Schwarzenegger and you can CLEARLY hear his accent and hear it's Arnold; the effin terminator.
it makes ZERO sense to put him in that role, it only confuses and downgrades.
Would you call it a non-issue? 90% of the population wouldn't call it a non-issue. you could defend it all you want "more people have an austrain accent, i don't see the issue" but that's really total bs,
It's the same with weaver voicing the computer. it's just odd and feels weird. But hey, if it's not an issue for you, good for you.
Although it's your issue and that's fine, it seems like something rather trivial to be 'actually' bothered about.
Out-of-Universe, yeah it's Weaver voicing the computer, in-Universe it's just a female automated voice.
i'm not really 'that' bothered about it actually.
I don't think one has to theoretically 'lose sleep about it' just to discuss something, and that's exactly what we're doing here.
It doesn't disturb my viewing pleasure, i just find it logically not defendable.
I understand Ridley giving Ripley a part, also from a commercial eye (weaver's in it!!!zomg!!), and i understand Weaver enjoying being part of it,
but it's just utterly 'confusing' in my opinion.
Yeah, I don't really get the fuss. I don't mind Weaver voicing the computer. It's a neat touch.
Quote from: windebieste on Apr 14, 2017, 10:13:49 AMNo one makes an issue out of William Hope having an acting role in 'ALIENS' and a voice acting role in 'ALIEN: Isolation' and they were completely different characters in different time frames as well.
Also this.
Different model, different voice.
Heck, in a single film you can have one actor/actress adorn multiple different roles, there'd be no relation among them in-universe.
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 14, 2017, 10:38:19 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 14, 2017, 09:43:22 AM
Quotedid you read the entire sentance? IF ripley=weaver voiced MUTHER, then she talks to her own voice in alien. After all, MUTHUR in Covenant, MUTHUR in ALIEN. David communicates with MUTHER (Ripley's Voice), Ripley communicates with MUTHUR. thus, if MUTHUR = ripley, she's essentially talking to her own voice in ALIEN.
what i'm saying is it is stupid that weaver voices muthur.
I read the entire sentence and your clarification just indicates it had little merit in the first place.
The two MUTHUR models are 20 years apart. So what if they have a different voice?
The Ripley of Alien has aged 38 years and is acting anyway and doesn't sound the same. GPSs have different voices and I can't imagine SIRI will sound the same in 20 years time. What a non-issue.
it's a non-issue to you, but it isn't to me.
Let's compare it to the Terminator universe.
Imagine James Cameron will make a prequel to all the Terminator films that we have. Let's take that 20 years 'in between' negates everything nonsense and say, the movie takes place 20 years before the original, so it's in the 60's. Let's say there is a narrator or a radiostation on, and the person narrating/doing a talkshow IS Arnold Schwarzenegger and you can CLEARLY hear his accent and hear it's Arnold; the effin terminator.
it makes ZERO sense to put him in that role, it only confuses and downgrades.
Would you call it a non-issue? 90% of the population wouldn't call it a non-issue. you could defend it all you want "more people have an austrain accent, i don't see the issue" but that's really total bs,
It's the same with weaver voicing the computer. it's just odd and feels weird. But hey, if it's not an issue for you, good for you.
Several things. First of all, regarding your Terminator comparison, no it wouldn't bother me, depending on how it's done. For example if they have MUTHUR say "get away from her you Bitch" with Weaver's voice in Covenant, yes, that would be completely ridiculous because it will go from a nice nod to obviously referencing Ripley and things that have not yet happened within the Alien universe, which would then be really problematic.
As for your original "equations", two things : Ripley ≠ Weaver, and MUTHUR Covenant ≠ MUTHUR Nostromo. So the rest of your logic makes no sense.
Weaver's voice at 67 isn't Weaver's voice at 30, and Ripley died way before she could hope to reach her late 60s ( Rest in Peace ;D), so this could not possibly be Ripley's voice. It sounds like a similar voice and
if it's Weaver then it will serve as pure fan service, and an homage to her contribution to the series, which I think is really cool. Some people here say it doesn't sound like Weaver, so it's unlikely to turn into a confusing aspect for audiences.
And MUTHUR Covenant's voice doesn't retroactively change MUTHUR's voice in Alien, I don't even see where that idea of yours comes from ???
SIRI has a lot of different voices already and it's not been around for twenty years, so to think the voice would be the same because the operating system has the same name is not a legit leap.
^ This guy right here. :-*
Just wait until the movie comes out, and the ship's engine sounds are done by Yaphet Kotto and Harry Dean Stanton. Then things really get weird.
Quote from: Bad Replicant on Apr 14, 2017, 11:31:36 AM
Just wait until the movie comes out, and the ship's engine sounds are done by Yaphet Kotto and Harry Dean Stanton. Then things really get weird.
:D :D :D :D :D :D
Well done.
Quote from: Bad Replicant on Apr 14, 2017, 11:31:36 AM
Just wait until the movie comes out, and the ship's engine sounds are done by Yaphet Kotto and Harry Dean Stanton. Then things really get weird.
That actually sounds kind of awesome. XD
What's odd is this hasn't been officially released by the studio all these sites are saying it came from here, i mean they must know this leaked out by now so why the radio silence??
Maybe this wasn't supposed to come out yet. Maybe this was supposed to be a Blu exclusive featurette??
The 'Weaver' thing is a little bit like in Goldeneye in 1995. Bond's Hawaiian shirt wearing mate is the same actor, Joe Don Baker who played a full blown Bond villain in 'The Living Daylights' a few years earlier.
Crikey, imagine the tongue lash they'd get if the Internet was around then - a villain recast as an ally!
I imagine the reaction was the same then as it should be now - no-one is fussed.
Quote from: Pvt. Himmel on Apr 14, 2017, 01:33:09 PM
What's odd is this hasn't been officially released by the studio all these sites are saying it came from here, i mean they must know this leaked out by now so why the radio silence??
Maybe this wasn't supposed to come out yet. Maybe this was supposed to be a Blu exclusive featurette??
I don't think Blu-Ray exclusive. Prometheus had featurettes like this one released
several months before the film was in theaters.
This Youtube channel started uploading them in December 2011: https://www.youtube.com/user/PrometheusNews
Quote from: SM on Apr 13, 2017, 10:24:15 PM
QuoteIt's relatively trivial, but is no less concerning. We know he said on set something like, "They wanted Aliens? I'll give them f**king Aliens..." It came across as spiteful, rather than doing it because he has a passion for them.
What was the context?
We don't know because it was a quote from a set report. I personally didn't perceive it as spiteful whatsoever but rather playful injected with a bit of his Geordie humour.
He's had a change of heart with the Alien over the last two years though, that's extremely evident in a lot of the stuff he's been saying (especially recently).
It's understandable how one can perceive it that way, he said all the time that the beast was cooked.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Apr 14, 2017, 07:55:29 PM
It's understandable how one can perceive it that way, he said all the time that the beast was cooked.
Not saying it's not. But he's quite clearly changed his mind. I perceive it as back stage banter.
Quote from: Beardomorph on Apr 14, 2017, 11:18:37 AM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Apr 14, 2017, 10:38:19 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 14, 2017, 09:43:22 AM
Quotedid you read the entire sentance? IF ripley=weaver voiced MUTHER, then she talks to her own voice in alien. After all, MUTHUR in Covenant, MUTHUR in ALIEN. David communicates with MUTHER (Ripley's Voice), Ripley communicates with MUTHUR. thus, if MUTHUR = ripley, she's essentially talking to her own voice in ALIEN.
what i'm saying is it is stupid that weaver voices muthur.
I read the entire sentence and your clarification just indicates it had little merit in the first place.
The two MUTHUR models are 20 years apart. So what if they have a different voice?
The Ripley of Alien has aged 38 years and is acting anyway and doesn't sound the same. GPSs have different voices and I can't imagine SIRI will sound the same in 20 years time. What a non-issue.
it's a non-issue to you, but it isn't to me.
Let's compare it to the Terminator universe.
Imagine James Cameron will make a prequel to all the Terminator films that we have. Let's take that 20 years 'in between' negates everything nonsense and say, the movie takes place 20 years before the original, so it's in the 60's. Let's say there is a narrator or a radiostation on, and the person narrating/doing a talkshow IS Arnold Schwarzenegger and you can CLEARLY hear his accent and hear it's Arnold; the effin terminator.
it makes ZERO sense to put him in that role, it only confuses and downgrades.
Would you call it a non-issue? 90% of the population wouldn't call it a non-issue. you could defend it all you want "more people have an austrain accent, i don't see the issue" but that's really total bs,
It's the same with weaver voicing the computer. it's just odd and feels weird. But hey, if it's not an issue for you, good for you.
Several things. First of all, regarding your Terminator comparison, no it wouldn't bother me, depending on how it's done. For example if they have MUTHUR say "get away from her you Bitch" with Weaver's voice in Covenant, yes, that would be completely ridiculous because it will go from a nice nod to obviously referencing Ripley and things that have not yet happened within the Alien universe, which would then be really problematic.
As for your original "equations", two things : Ripley ≠ Weaver, and MUTHUR Covenant ≠ MUTHUR Nostromo. So the rest of your logic makes no sense.
Weaver's voice at 67 isn't Weaver's voice at 30, and Ripley died way before she could hope to reach her late 60s ( Rest in Peace ;D), so this could not possibly be Ripley's voice. It sounds like a similar voice and if it's Weaver then it will serve as pure fan service, and an homage to her contribution to the series, which I think is really cool. Some people here say it doesn't sound like Weaver, so it's unlikely to turn into a confusing aspect for audiences.
And MUTHUR Covenant's voice doesn't retroactively change MUTHUR's voice in Alien, I don't even see where that idea of yours comes from ???
SIRI has a lot of different voices already and it's not been around for twenty years, so to think the voice would be the same because the operating system has the same name is not a legit leap.
good points.
Personally, i read MUTHUR being simply MUTHUR the same overall, but i failed to take in to the equasion as mentioned above too that there are different MUTHUR versions.
Sigourneyweaver does not exist in the Alien universe .......
it won't be Ripley voice ......
you might aswell be arguing that baby stuff and Peter Griffin can't exist in the same cartoon.....
like , really ?
Quotebut it's just utterly 'confusing' in my opinion.
What bit is confusing?
It sounds like a re-modulated Weaver voice to me. And I'm fine with that - it's kind of what I predicted a Weaver involvement would look like anyway.
From Weaver's perspective (nearing 70 years old) its cash in the bank and an easy gig. As a fan, I'm rapt if its her.
It could definitely be re-modulated. That might account for me not thinking it's her.
Lol i don't understand how all you guys aren't affected by this. It's just weird! I like it for Sigourney, that's not the point. But i still think it's just weird and confusing of having the biggest (human) character ALSO voice - quite recognisable - a computer. I don't know, it doesnt fully bother me, but it just feels like a weird bump in a otherwise smooth and well executed plan.
but hey, i'm bringing way too much attention to this rather minor detail. let's just forget it.
I don't think it's so recognisable. "Walter" is the only word that seemed obvious to me. The rest of it, including the bit where MUTHUR says it has found the origin of the distress signal's transmission, is hardly recognisable as Weaver's voice...
Yeah I can barely tell its her and im not even sure it is, I Dont think it will be distracting at all.
"Why are we even talking about this for?!"
I agree with 426Buddy and others, it doesn't really sound like her—except for the Walter bit.
Turns out this featurette was a streamable extra included in the new releases of the Alien Anthology boxset.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-QIB9hXYAAu65j.jpg)
https://twitter.com/20thCFoxSp/status/856940373012250624
I found this interesting cause it seems to indicate we'll see the chestburster in its original form,and maybe the Empire shot is indeed a juvenile.
but then why would that shot with the semi-transparant arm and the rest of the body be covered in human blood and stuff, indicating it actually escaped from a body?
Maybe it's a scene where it's feeding? :P
Personally, I would love to see the chestburster shed its skin and molt.