Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Mar 16, 2021, 06:41:27 PM
What about focusing on having a good movie first and foremost ? Isn't that the priority ? Serious question.
We can have a good quality movie AND not make an ass out of Native American culture of which is the subject of said movie, but I guess its too much to ask?
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 16, 2021, 07:30:23 PM
Historically the film industry gives Native Americans a bad look. It can be well meaning but it doesn't always work on account of the fact that they're working with a culture most Americans (and frankly everybody else) have a superficial knowledge of largely on account of said industry as well as most Americans not being taught Native history beyond the establishment of the United States. It also doesn't help that a lot of that culture just doesn't exist anymore on account of the Americans simply being here. It's always going to be a touchy subject be it that things don't hold up under scrutiny or that it's simply Hollywood doing it in the first place. It really is that lacking and most Americans just can't tell you anything beyond Hollywood since they have no reason to learn it beyond deeper studies typically on their own. We can only hope the cultural advisor is up to the job.
Yeah, I mean thats why I would strongly urge for cultural advisors to help with the film. If you are going to portray a group of people for a film or other media, make sure to do plenty of research to help develop the story so that you don't come out as tone deaf of said people
you are using for the project. I mean look no further with The Predator on their dumb take on kids with autism......
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 16, 2021, 07:30:23 PM
It will be about as accurate to reality as the Alien Prequels dabbling in creationism. The best thing they could've done is not do it at all but at the end of the day the product needs to speak for itself and will be largely how its judged. Outside something like Renegade Cut I just don't see this film being judged on the depiction of Native Americans unless its genuinely egregious and even then it's not meant be 1:1 with reality.
Good movie comes first.
Well yeah, films will never be a 1:1 with reality, I mean look at videogames with the Assassin's Creed series where they use history and scifi together.
Assassin's Creed 3 had a Mohawk protagonist named Ratonhnhaké:ton that has interactions with his tribe and the 13 colonies that respectfully portray him and his people in a well positive represented light while telling of a fictional sc-fi conspiracy theory of two organizations fighting over peace through freedom vs control that spanned since the fall of Egypt during Roman times and humanity was also created by a slave race by a precursor race, which is taking behind the scenes during the American Revolution.
Additionally, as @DannyParty mentioned on twitter, if they did proper research, they could miss out on possibilities on enhancing the film's quality like having epic horseback fights chasing down a Predator through the trees seeing to how they had access to horses when the Europeans started to move in or seeing that the tribe is known for adopting other people, one can having a tie in with Dutch by having an ancestor coming across a Predator, perhaps an aid to Kee with her battle? Pull a Tremors where you had the actor of Burt Gummer be his own ancestor of a prequal film during the 19th century when he faced the big worms before his descendent did.
So, your take is just
Great representation will never subtract from a great film.