Emissary Predator is out now, check your storefronts.
- No new weapons
- 15 gear points
- 9 Perk points
- Enraged, Savage, Wrathful
Download took longer than usual. ANYWAYS. Yeah he's half assed. Whoever is in charge of modelling these guys seriously needs to be fired at this point because you can't convince me they give a shit.
In the customization menu they remembered he doesn't have more than one gauntlet, the bad news is they forgot to actually model it. So instead they took the top half of Jungle Hunter's and slapped it on his wrist. Like all suit Predators in The Predator, he had one of Fugitive's. The face model does not resemble either film counterpart either. It is the same default head as before, this time with the super Predator textures resized to fit the head. Which also doesn't match the skin texture on the body. So not only are they wrong, they also couldn't commit to being wrong. So the head can be gray, but the body remains the default color. There was no backpack either. They literally just had to put the gun on his shoulder like Wolf, and since he lacked a gun in the movie they literally could've reused the asset. In addition, it's a reused asset from Cleopatra. No it doesn't look right mounted on his shoulder. It's big, bulky, and goes against the entire aesthetic of the 4th film.
The helmet looks looks fine, but its only because seemingly nobody can replicate that thing's proportions so I'm used to it by now. But whoever was modelling once again used Halloween/Cosplay gear as a base because it's clearly based on the rubies mask.
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As the last few releases the wrist launcher if selected will be visible on Emissary and unlike a lot of the prior releases given the lack of extra gauntlet, it looks alright though you still can't color the damn thing.
No new weapons either. This time its even more glaring given The Predator has its main Predator using a rifle, and the Emissary packaged with an LMG by Neca. Not saying they need the LMG, but they couldn't be bothered to reuse an asset they already use with the fireteam. We've been asking for new ranged weapons and the one time where the Predator comes from a film filled with them, we don't get any.
In-game the lighting issue from Wolf is once again back. No, he does use the 87 roar. They committed so much to being different but didn't bother to change that again.
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Other than that it looks like Exile's dreadlocks are "Tank's" which is a reward for reaching level 500.
Gotta be honest, I really wasn't expecting this update for another week or two. And my money was on Celtic to be released rather than Emissary, so that's surprising.
Also just going by the bio, even though he's very clearly based on the Emissaries from The Predator, I'm kinda taking this as an "original" character in the same way that Exiled is, even though he's clearly based on the Preds from the first arc of the Hunters comic. That way I can easily get over any inconsistencies between this one and either of the ones we (didn't) see in the movie.
Unless it's a case of more technical issues though, on which case those would continue to suck.
Well this is surprising...
Take that, The Predator haters !
This might be an indicator of what they're gonna do with Celtic. Since no head was ever shown for him outside merchandise which was just Scar, we're likely going to get the default head.
Anyone else find it weird the Shuriken still isn't released though? Like what is it going to be released with then, if not Wolf or here, then Celtic maybe?
He is a Berserker variant aka the worse class on the game, very similar stats. Just as bad of an update as the last one. No new wearpons, gear or any passive abilites that would make this class more unique or anything, would have been better to have the Fugitive instead of this.
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Honestly, this is the anniversary update.....bruh.
Well as I quote one person from the PHG Fourms:
QuoteMadisyn_Skye:
No sound bug fix, check.
No axe bug fix, check.
No Fanatic/Leader bug fix, check.
No new gear or weapons, not even a skin, check.
No balance issues fixed, check.
No nerfing the SAWZ and 1011 and increasing Pred health, check.
No increasing Wolf's gear capacity, check.
Some night levels still super dark, check.
Yep, sounds about right.
Cool beans, broski! Thanks for the Pred and shaders!
In all honesty though, maybe just...stop. Just stop. Stop releasing DLC with half-assed updates and seriously rework the game. Pay attention to the requests that your community manager passes down and actually do some real work. Or just drop the game altogether, really, we wouldn't mind. Its better than having any kind of hope for a better experience.
They are doing absolutely nothing innovative at all. THATS a goddamm shame. What is
f**king appalling is that the dreadlocks of Exiled is behind a
damm level up reward of 500. I'm sorry, but we paid for the DLC, we expect the ENTIRE MODEL to be included, not waiting for 6 months of the dreadlocks to be dropped in separated by a goddamm leveling system. If someone PAYS for the damm PRODUCT, WE EXPECT ALL OF THE PRODUCT to be INCLUDED ONCE WE DOWNLOAD IT.
SERIOUSLY WTF?!
I'm a just leave a link here to the fourms for people here who are out of touch of the community's feelings of the games current state, like no one is meming here, we just want the game to be better: https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/patch-notes-2-39/27316
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Apr 19, 2022, 08:22:00 PM
Anyone else find it weird the Shuriken still isn't released though? Like what is it going to be released with then, if not Wolf or here, then Celtic maybe?
Or perhaps it's just abandoned like Falconer's drone. It's all been very weird since Exiled if you ask me. And Exiled's dreads unlockable at level 500 even when you purchased the DLC? Unacceptable. It all seems sorely mismanaged.
Yeah this is going to be the normal from here on out, just bugged DLC characters and very little bug fixes. No real worthwhile content....
Well at least Aliens Fireteam Elite is doing the good shit, Cold Iron is showing up Illfonic on how its done.
Oh lord no, Cold Iron has their own problems.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 20, 2022, 08:56:05 PM
Oh lord no, Cold Iron has their own problems.
Oh for sure, I seen how there need to have more campaigns, multiplayer options, and the like, but at least the game's performance and balance is being consistently worked on, compared to Illfonic fixing 3 bugs and having 10 new ones, no nerfing of overpowered weaponry, or improving the frame rate that still causes crashes even in strong computer gaming builds. I'm looking at the recent update they drop and its way nicer and fatter then what Illfonic has dropped, its insane to me that one has more going on then the other. I mean look at em:
The recent drop:
https://www.aliensfireteamelite.com/en/releasenotes/
And the one above with PHG, like I'm seeing actual changes being made compared to just a few new skins, a half baked DLC, and locking dreadlocks to a character we paid for 6 months ago only to work for what we paid for through a 500 level up wall. Cold Iron ain't perfect, but at least they are working hard on their forge.
AFTE is still in its first year. PHG starts its third year in 4 days. Compare AFTE to PHG's first year.. or wait a few years and see where AFTE is 2+ years in, and then you have a fair comparison.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 20, 2022, 02:38:09 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Apr 19, 2022, 08:22:00 PM
Anyone else find it weird the Shuriken still isn't released though? Like what is it going to be released with then, if not Wolf or here, then Celtic maybe?
Or perhaps it's just abandoned like Falconer's drone. It's all been very weird since Exiled if you ask me. And Exiled's dreads unlockable at level 500 even when you purchased the DLC? Unacceptable. It all seems sorely mismanaged.
It is probably scrapped though I wouldn't actually know why. The Falcon could reuse the tech for the Smart-disk where it deploys and probably wouldn't require an animation just have the Predator look at the gauntlet, probably lasts a bit longer as well like a way to ping targets given the scanning specialization. Or they could be lazy and do it like the UAV. We even have precedent for the Falcon slamming into people from the mobile games so they barely have to change anything.
Hell, the shuriken much as I don't want it to be that could've been a variant of smart-disk.
I really don't know what Illfonic's aversion to ranged content is. But given this release should be Fugitive, they actually could've reused the Wrist launcher animation and did that disk launcher from the film. So bleed instead of burn damage but they probably could've even left the damage numbers the same. It'd still have usage since your target's not on fire to give yourself away you just shot a guy.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Apr 21, 2022, 01:00:18 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 20, 2022, 02:38:09 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Apr 19, 2022, 08:22:00 PM
Anyone else find it weird the Shuriken still isn't released though? Like what is it going to be released with then, if not Wolf or here, then Celtic maybe?
Or perhaps it's just abandoned like Falconer's drone. It's all been very weird since Exiled if you ask me. And Exiled's dreads unlockable at level 500 even when you purchased the DLC? Unacceptable. It all seems sorely mismanaged.
It is probably scrapped though I wouldn't actually know why. The Falcon could reuse the tech for the Smart-disk where it deploys and probably wouldn't require an animation just have the Predator look at the gauntlet, probably lasts a bit longer as well like a way to ping targets given the scanning specialization. Or they could be lazy and do it like the UAV. We even have precedent for the Falcon slamming into people from the mobile games so they barely have to change anything.
All true. And while I had applied the same concept for a Hell-Hound to be applied to a Smart Disc model (timed release - Predator can only be on the ground to release it) the Falcon drone in place of the Smart Disc in third person indeed doesn't require any animation and can get stuck in trees just the same and just tag enemies in the area. It feels so simple in programming terms, and lord yes, a UAV style would be even so much simpler. Yet we didn't get either with the Falconer? So weird.
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I really don't know what Illfonic's aversion to ranged content is. But given this release should be Fugitive, they actually could've reused the Wrist launcher animation and did that disk launcher from the film. So bleed instead of burn damage but they probably could've even left the damage numbers the same. It'd still have usage since your target's not on fire to give yourself away you just shot a guy.
Yeah, it seems so simple that I wonder, am I missing something?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 21, 2022, 03:35:29 PM
Yeah, it seems so simple that I wonder, am I missing something?
Welcome to two years, turning three, of the community wondering what in the hell is Illfonic doing with PHG. I mean I know you mentioned that comparing the years of PHG and AFTE isn't that fair, but at least they are pumping out new weapons, classes, and balance changes within each patch. I have no idea why is it difficult for Illfonic to add a Speargun and lower the damage number in some of the weapons coding. What is worse is that for the past years, they claim that they are listening in to feedback from the community but in fact do very little to nothing with it, which in turn bitters the community as by that point it seems like they take nothing serious with the actual concerns about the game's quality.
One small example is the one already brought up, the Exiled dreadlocks. It appeared in promotional screenshots so they must already have it in their systems right? So why did it take 6 months to make the drop, but then have the great idea of making people work for the dreadlocks they bought alongside the DLC? What next, they drop a Scar DLC but the dreadlocks and unique mask of his must be bought via level progression? So then what would be the point of buying the DLC if I only get 3/4ths of it? It's so weird and I don't blame the angry backlash they have gotten from the recent drop due to this and the lack of content.
All the community knows is that Illfonic claims they cannot talk about what is up and coming due to red tape reasons but things are coming. But if the last 4 patches proved anything, is that this isn't looking good at all, and no one in the community is believing this "red tape reason" anymore.
Would have preferred Fugitive, maybe they will add it later.
The Lore looks off though, the Emissaries joined up with the humans and were provided the human gear.
Yeah in this case it's more of the same. Just a Predator in a themed outfit.
For me if I had to redo the backstory I would've had him be a representative of Cleopatra. Essentially that this is the Predator equivalent to what Dutch is doing. If Dutch is adopting Predator weapons and technique, then the Emissary is operating under a similar idea. The Emissary is adopting human style body armor, camouflaged gear, maybe some weapons. It's inferior to what he'd normally carry, but the technique and the ability to go under unnoticed and especially at a distance gives a surprising edge for him. He'd be here to soften Dutch up or outright kill him. Cleo didn't spare him in their first encounter, she thought she was too good for him. And now that Dutch has survived, he's become an even greater a threat than before. So Cleo assembles her own team to soften Dutch up for her, or outright kill him. And it'd be hard to convince them not to, it's Dutch, any Predator would be willing to fight him.
You could even retain the allied backstory. Maybe this guy joins the OWLF to a degree. Dutch is too much so he surrenders Cleo's location explaining how Sean got it. Or if they made a new enemy type from this guy he could be working with Stargazer to take Dutch on.
Had they planned ahead, suddenly you've got a new enemy type to get some sort of Predator A.I
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Apr 21, 2022, 05:41:48 PM
I mean I know you mentioned that comparing the years of PHG and AFTE isn't that fair, but at least they are pumping out new weapons, classes, and balance changes within each patch.
That is exactly what was Illfonic was doing their first year. And Illfonic's updates were monthly, not quarterly.
We're 9 months in on AFTE right now. Let's go back and check 9 months in on PHG:
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 08, 2020, 03:37:11 PM
QuotePaid DLC
New playable Fireteam character - Dante "Beast Mode" Jefferson
Early Access to new Fireteam weapon - B34S-T Rocket Launcher
Free Update
[FREE] Predator's Battle Axe is now available at Level 85
[FREE] OWLF Operative is a new playable Fireteam character available at Level 40
[FREE] Plasma Rifle Prototype is a new unlockable Fireteam weapon available at Level 135
[FREE] PDL (Proximity Detector Launcher) is a new unlockable Fireteam weapon available at Level 43
[FREE] EMP Mine is a new unlockable Fireteam gear item available at Level 80
General
Fixed an issue where CrossPlay Linked Accounts that were searching for coming out of a Quickplay match would sometimes become stuck in the "Connecting" state
Fixed an issue where match can become desynced when host pauses during cinematic
Fixed an issue where the AI would sometimes have their full head covering display incorrectly
Fixed a crash that would sometimes occur when using the Field Syrette and another item in a specific way
Clash
Fixed an issue where the Predator selection countdown would sometimes display an incorrect timer
Fireteam
General
Fixed an issue where the Fireteam weapons and perks may sometimes reset after round cycling
Fixed an issue where the minimap icons would sometimes appear to be inconsistent between teammates
Fixed an issue where firing an impact grenade from the Hammerhead would cause the ammo functionality to change when playing as the support class
Gear
Grenade
Fixed an issue where the grenade projectile would not deal direct damage
Fixed an issue where the animation would not play correctly when throwing a grenade while crouched
Weapons
General
Significantly increased max range of all shotguns
CS-12
Increased damage of close ranged shots
Increased ammo pickups
Significantly increased max ammo
XDB-12
Reduced damage
Hammerhead
Reduced magazine size for grenade launcher attachment
Mercenary ('87)
Reduced magazine size for grenade launcher attachment
Grimtech 19
Increased damage
Increased ammo pickups
1011-12
Increased ammo pickups
D34-D
Increased damage
Reduced splash damage range
Reduced ammo pickups
Predator
General
Increased armor of all Predators
Fixed an issue where the "Want some candy?" VO could be heard from anywhere on the map
Fixed an issue where the dead boar icons were smaller than intended on the minimap
Fixed an issue where the Predator was not holding weapons correctly in the loadout screen
Perks
[NEW] Ironside (Level 80)
Take reduced damage from behind while moving, healing, claiming, or performing a stealth kill
Dithered Lens
Increased cost from 2 to 5
Modified Reserves
Significantly increased energy regeneration gained from Modified Reserves
Impenetrable Resistance
Significantly increased the amount of damage resistance gained from Impenetrable Resistance
Increased cost from 5 to 6
Gear
Audio Decoy
Added Predator healing sounds
Added Predator eating sounds
Removed Predator pouncing sounds
Weapons
Plasma Caster
Reduced energy cost of fully charged Plasma Caster shots
The Emissary Predator...why? Literally why?
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 21, 2022, 01:42:31 AM
AFTE is still in its first year. PHG starts its third year in 4 days. Compare AFTE to PHG's first year.. or wait a few years and see where AFTE is 2+ years in, and then you have a fair comparison.
Let's compare!
This is what we got for the 2 games 8 months after launch!
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This is also not mentioning how PHG had massive issues relating to optimization, bugs, balancing and crossplay during these 8 months, something that AFTE doesn't really suffer since they actually tackle these head on, please let's not pretend even for a second that PHG had better support than AFTE, it didn't, PHG had more classes added and that's it, and all of them just had different stats cuz Pred specs would only be added way later.
PHG's classes are the definition of quantity over quality.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 23, 2022, 02:09:36 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 21, 2022, 01:42:31 AM
AFTE is still in its first year. PHG starts its third year in 4 days. Compare AFTE to PHG's first year.. or wait a few years and see where AFTE is 2+ years in, and then you have a fair comparison.
Let's compare!
This is what we got for the 2 games 8 months after launch!
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/603438127314632704/967245482516680724/unknown.png?width=1367&height=676)
This is also not mentioning how PHG had massive issues relating to optimization, bugs, balancing and crossplay during these 8 months, something that AFTE doesn't really suffer since they actually tackle these head on, please let's not pretend even for a second that PHG had better support than AFTE, it didn't, PHG had more classes added and that's it, and all of them just had different stats cuz Pred specs would only be added way later.
PHG's classes are the definition of quantity over quality.
Interesting slant your graphic has, the way you present things. And 19 modifier cards! Wowzers! :D
And you can revisit threads to see AFTE had complaints of an incomplete game, massive bugs (one alone being matchmaking was broken for so many, where they couldn't play with other live players / just bots for a couple months, even after hotfixes.) And it's easy not to have many balancing issues when all your opponents are AI.
My personal point is, if someone starts comparing game updates 9 months in with 24 months in, I'm always with intellectual honesty going to say it's an unfair comparison no matter what the game. Also, if someone says "Cold Iron is showing up Illfonic on how its done" I am again, with intellectual honesty going to say "Oh lord no, Cold Iron has their own problems." And the same goes for vice-versa, because Illfonic has not won any awards here either with their product or support problems. Not at all.
Think one is doing better than the other? That's cool, but I see neither to be a bastion of good game management.
What's with all the modelling on Hunting Grounds recent content being horrific?
With their main focus clearlyon Ghostbusters , Illfonic's C-team or interns seem to be doing the modeling now. :laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 23, 2022, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 23, 2022, 02:09:36 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 21, 2022, 01:42:31 AM
AFTE is still in its first year. PHG starts its third year in 4 days. Compare AFTE to PHG's first year.. or wait a few years and see where AFTE is 2+ years in, and then you have a fair comparison.
Let's compare!
This is what we got for the 2 games 8 months after launch!
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/603438127314632704/967245482516680724/unknown.png?width=1367&height=676)
This is also not mentioning how PHG had massive issues relating to optimization, bugs, balancing and crossplay during these 8 months, something that AFTE doesn't really suffer since they actually tackle these head on, please let's not pretend even for a second that PHG had better support than AFTE, it didn't, PHG had more classes added and that's it, and all of them just had different stats cuz Pred specs would only be added way later.
PHG's classes are the definition of quantity over quality.
Interesting slant your graphic has, the way you present things. And 19 modifier cards! Wowzers! :D
And you can revisit threads to see AFTE had complaints of an incomplete game, massive bugs (one alone being matchmaking was broken for so many, where they couldn't play with other live players / just bots for a couple months, even after hotfixes.) And it's easy not to have many balancing issues when all your opponents are AI.
My personal point is, if someone starts comparing game updates 9 months in with 24 months in, I'm always with intellectual honesty going to say it's an unfair comparison no matter what the game. Also, if someone says "Cold Iron is showing up Illfonic on how its done" I am again, with intellectual honesty going to say "Oh lord no, Cold Iron has their own problems." And the same goes for vice-versa, because Illfonic has not won any awards here either with their product or support problems. Not at all.
Think one is doing better than the other? That's cool, but I see neither to be a bastion of good game management.
Cold Iron's own problems are not even close to being as bad as Illfonic's.
PHG's matchmaking issues are far worse than AFTE's, I played AFTE today with a friend that just got the game and found someone else instantly, PHG? Good luck finding a match in less than 5 minutes with Predator, or even finding a match at all seeing as empty lobbies were never fixed.
Also, PHG was an incomplete game at launch, it felt like an Alpha of a game and not a finished product. And the quality control just got worse after that, say what you want about AFTE, but it launched with a full campaign, full arsenal and full enemy list, with the one lacking factor being an endgame cutscene. PHG? A MP only game with ONE MODE, THREE MAPS and only 3 classes on each side! And don't try to say this was a small indie team, I've seen small indie teams do better with other asym games, Primal Carnage had 5 playable classes that are completely different from one another and 7 maps at launch! Don't even get me started on DBD.
I'm sorry, but to say those 2 are even comparable in quality in their first year is just lying to yourself, AFTE has been consistent in quality while PHG just got worse and worse, Clash feels like a mod made in the 2000's for Quake for God's sake!
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 23, 2022, 07:19:36 PM
What's with all the modelling on Hunting Grounds recent content being horrific?
Everything after Dutch 87 was noticeably worse in quality, since it's when they started running out of assets they already had made before launch, you could already see signs of their poor planning with Clash
Can someone post photos of Emissary in this thread please?
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 23, 2022, 08:42:35 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 23, 2022, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 23, 2022, 02:09:36 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 21, 2022, 01:42:31 AM
AFTE is still in its first year. PHG starts its third year in 4 days. Compare AFTE to PHG's first year.. or wait a few years and see where AFTE is 2+ years in, and then you have a fair comparison.
Let's compare!
This is what we got for the 2 games 8 months after launch!
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/603438127314632704/967245482516680724/unknown.png?width=1367&height=676)
This is also not mentioning how PHG had massive issues relating to optimization, bugs, balancing and crossplay during these 8 months, something that AFTE doesn't really suffer since they actually tackle these head on, please let's not pretend even for a second that PHG had better support than AFTE, it didn't, PHG had more classes added and that's it, and all of them just had different stats cuz Pred specs would only be added way later.
PHG's classes are the definition of quantity over quality.
Interesting slant your graphic has, the way you present things. And 19 modifier cards! Wowzers! :D
And you can revisit threads to see AFTE had complaints of an incomplete game, massive bugs (one alone being matchmaking was broken for so many, where they couldn't play with other live players / just bots for a couple months, even after hotfixes.) And it's easy not to have many balancing issues when all your opponents are AI.
My personal point is, if someone starts comparing game updates 9 months in with 24 months in, I'm always with intellectual honesty going to say it's an unfair comparison no matter what the game. Also, if someone says "Cold Iron is showing up Illfonic on how its done" I am again, with intellectual honesty going to say "Oh lord no, Cold Iron has their own problems." And the same goes for vice-versa, because Illfonic has not won any awards here either with their product or support problems. Not at all.
Think one is doing better than the other? That's cool, but I see neither to be a bastion of good game management.
Cold Iron's own problems are not even close to being as bad as Illfonic's.
PHG's matchmaking issues are far worse than AFTE's, I played AFTE today with a friend that just got the game and found someone else instantly, PHG? Good luck finding a match in less than 5 minutes with Predator, or even finding a match at all seeing as empty lobbies were never fixed.
What you're mostly talking about is available playerbase and wait times, which is sparse on PC, but very robust still on PS for PHG.
What I'm talking about was matchmaking was completely broken for players at launch for AFTE. Completely broken. There were people including me which was forced to play only with bots.
QuoteDude
Dude? Dude!
QuoteAlso, PHG was an incomplete game at launch, it felt like an Alpha of a game and not a finished product.
Same I felt about AFTE, all which I said on the podcast while still giving it an 8/10 for fun. I said it felt like an incomplete game. Levels just stopped. Matchmaking was broken. Aliens fell through floors. AI at hub wouldn't unlock further missions correctly, nor advancement doors would open making one re-start the game. And environments would go completely black, only showing the models.
QuoteI'm sorry, but to say those 2 are even comparable in quality in their first year is just lying to yourself
You can knock it off with the 'lying to yourself' comments. We can agree to disagree, but no need for all that. Cheers.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 23, 2022, 08:55:28 PM
Can someone post photos of Emissary in this thread please?
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All from the discord
Voodoo, there is a huge difference between a game having bugs at launch and a game lacking massive loads of content at launch and having bugs
PHG was a PVP only asym game at launch, with barely any class variety aside from looks and stats that didn't offer much play style variety, few weapons and equipment, only three maps and missions that don't give any of those maps any sort of variety. It lacked in many regions that many other Asym games didn't at launch. Let's compare that to the game that essentially birthed this genre, Evolve. Evolve had 4 character types at launch, each type had 3 different characters, all significantly different from one another, and had 3 extremely different Monster classes, Evolve had 12 different maps and 4 different modes at launch, now, Evolve had a big budget, so if we compare this to other asym games like DBD or even Primal Carnage, both of which had 5 or more maps at launch and had all their monster roles be significantly varied, well, it also doesn't look too good on PHG.
AFTE is a PVE only horde shooter, it had 5 classes at launch but all offered something different with how they functioned, it had lots of content, 13 playable levels but a very noticeable lack of story telling connecting them aside from easy to miss cringy dialogue. When compared to old PVE horde shooters, AFTE has a passable amounts of content, with it's 13 maps, 32 weapons and 5 unique classes, comparing it to a notable example in the PVE horde shooter scene, L4D had 20 maps, 10 weapons and no unique classes, so I'd say it holds up pretty okay to that, trading off more maps for more unique character gameplay.
Content wise, I showed the progress both games made within 8 months after launch, which I'll reiterate in here
AFTE released 2 completely unique classes, one new mode/map that feels in line with what we already had ingame, 12 weapons, various weapon mods and mission modifiers, as well as many QoL minor features. All of this for free
PHG released a total of 9 classes, 4 for Fireteam, 5 for Predator. Three of the Fireteam ones are paid, and 2 of the paid ones are the same character, both feature the same weapon but with different mods. The one free class was a movie character, which was pretty cool, but aside from the thermal vision passive, it was another reskin of the base classes. 3 of the Predator ones were paid, one is a movie character that had an ugly mask but aside from that was a very welcome additon, the other two are original creations made to coincide with the release of popular games at the time. The other 2 free classes were the Elder, a movie character, and the Alpha, a Neca character, the Alpha was which at the time, was a simple Hunter reskin, which could also be said for the City Hunter, which didn't have many different stats and instead had a permanent gear spot taken by his wrist launcher.
Weapons wise, AFTE released a weapon for each of it's 4 types in all of it's updates, making sure everyone got something.
PHG, released 6 weapons for the Fireteam and 3 for the Predator, I'll ignore gear items
Out of the 6 weapons for the Fireteam, 2 are the exact same rifle with different mods, one is a rocket launcher, one quite literally a reused Predator asset and the other 2 being 2 laser weapons made out of Predator technology. All Predator weapons were melee weapons, and all of them were original and not any of the missing gear seen in the movies. Over half of these weapons were locked behind DLC at their time of their launch. Illfonic really neglected Predator AND different playstyles, with no new shotguns and handguns for the Fireteam and no new ranged weapons for the Predator.
There's more but at this point, you can see how one was struggling and the other wasn't, Alien has also been very transparent with us with their roadmap, while Predator kept us guessing and even tricked us one time :/
Someone pointed it out on the Illfonic forums, they did it to us again with the dreadlocks. He does have textured dreads.., in the store photo. I noticed he didn't have it in the pack, what I didn't count on was it being in the store photo. Is nobody checking the DLC packs?
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Apr 24, 2022, 08:00:43 PM
Someone pointed it out on the Illfonic forums, they did it to us again with the dreadlocks. He does have textured dreads.., in the store photo. I noticed he didn't have it in the pack, what I didn't count on was it being in the store photo. Is nobody checking the DLC packs?
I think it's just the longer dreads actually, the initial female ones. Not sure why they used two different ones for the marketing though.
(https://image.api.playstation.com/vulcan/ap/rnd/202203/2918/81JTlwviOrsMThgx2wxaNnGF.png?w=780&thumb=false)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQtaUw6XEAsusEL?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
I've been away on some travel and just got back, but yeah another super disappointing update with this one after Wolf. Not how I was hoping they'd ring in the game's 2nd Anniversary.
Was hoping he'd have at least some kind of ranged weapon, but nope.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 24, 2022, 09:35:31 PM
I've been away on some travel and just got back, but yeah another super disappointing update with this one after Wolf. Not how I was hoping they'd ring in the game's 2nd Anniversary.
If the bear datamine is legit and there is an assumed Prey-themed expansion, I really hope they have some quality talent working on it.
They don't.
Yeah no, the last bit of talent working on this game went on the last map
so, u telling me that this game is DONE? they just quit on it ?
with all this potential men, it cant be
Quote from: Santoslive19 on Apr 26, 2022, 05:05:21 PM
so, u telling me that this game is DONE? they just quit on it ?
with all this potential men, it cant be
Its just the way they've been handling the game. It seems like they are just chucking in color shaders and one DLC for the sake of content for the past few months and not something of real gameplay changing substance. Better stealth options, tactics, new gear, new long range predator weaponry, balance issues, new modes, new maps, but we get nothing at all. There was some Falconer drones that we thought was going to drop long ago but never made the cut for some reason, even though its in the game and the Predator itself was dropped in sometime ago.
There is also the fact that Illfonic claims they will respond to the feedback that the community gives in the past few years, but they have responded in very little to nothing at all, which frustrates the community constantly. Like one of the biggest grips of the game is currently Fireteam being too overpowered in its weaponry and the Predator's lack of long range weaponry and new gear to properly respond to the unfair high damage numbers. There is tons of issues to talk about, but again I invite anyone to look over at the forums to understand the issues as I would need to make like what 6 posts to cover all of this, or better yet, some people who can explain it better than I can.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 24, 2022, 09:35:31 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Apr 24, 2022, 08:00:43 PM
Someone pointed it out on the Illfonic forums, they did it to us again with the dreadlocks. He does have textured dreads.., in the store photo. I noticed he didn't have it in the pack, what I didn't count on was it being in the store photo. Is nobody checking the DLC packs?
I think it's just the longer dreads actually, the initial female ones. Not sure why they used two different ones for the marketing though.
(https://image.api.playstation.com/vulcan/ap/rnd/202203/2918/81JTlwviOrsMThgx2wxaNnGF.png?w=780&thumb=false)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQtaUw6XEAsusEL?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
I've been away on some travel and just got back, but yeah another super disappointing update with this one after Wolf. Not how I was hoping they'd ring in the game's 2nd Anniversary.
Ok so I was wrong here, there are no beads like that on either the Viking nor the Thicker dreads. So yeah looks like this is the same situation as Exiled with missing new dreads featured in the marketing picture.
Quote from: Santoslive19 on Apr 26, 2022, 05:05:21 PM
so, u telling me that this game is DONE? they just quit on it ?
with all this potential men, it cant be
It
appears we'll be getting a Prey themed update or expansion in the next several months that includes bears, based on someone's datamine that RT shared...
(https://i.ibb.co/R0sdqF6/IMG-20220427-083753.jpg)
...but I guess we'll see!