I hope I'm wrong but it seems this new Predator movie is not getting as much attention as previous predator movies, the filming has completed now well over a month and still no real news about the movie script or behind the scenes photos, this has me a little worried, it might also be a good sign :-\... I'm more of a Predator fan than Aliens and it just seems the Predator franchise does not get the same love/attention as Aliens.
Quote from: xenofeen on Oct 16, 2021, 12:08:36 AM
I hope I'm wrong but it seems this new Predator movie is not getting as much attention as previous predator movies, the filming has completed now well over a month and still no real news about the movie script or behind the scenes photos, this has me a little worried, it might also be a good sign :-\... I'm more of a Predator fan than Aliens and it just seems the Predator franchise does not get the same love/attention as Aliens.
With "The Predator", they went all out promoting it here in the U.S.
From the Predator appearing on one of the highest rated television broadcasts FOX NFL Sunday...
..to The Predator Christmas Special:
But "Skulls" appears to be an entirely different animal, not a theatrical film but a streaming release film on Hulu. And those type of films typically don't start promotion until a couple months before release.
They seem to still be at least somewhat into the idea of it being a stealth Predator movie in the same way Prometheus was a stealth Alien movie to anyone who hadn't followed the online stuff. Considering the much smaller scale and budget of a Pred flick, I think it's a viable tactic to get word of mouth and innanet hype around/after the release date, and we shouldn't agitate shit or rock the boat, let them do their thing.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 16, 2021, 09:21:48 AM
They seem to still be at least somewhat into the idea of it being a stealth Predator movie in the same way Prometheus was a stealth Alien movie to anyone who hadn't followed the online stuff. Considering the much smaller scale and budget of a Pred flick, I think it's a viable tactic to get word of mouth and innanet hype around/after the release date, and we shouldn't agitate shit or rock the boat, let them do their thing.
Man... I hope the "suprise" Predator movie and producer John Davis announcing the film is called "Skulls" was intended and will continue to hold throughout release. Nothing would excite me more than not seeing a Predator in the trailer, but rather Comanche Natives just being swiped away in the fog by a shadowy creature!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 16, 2021, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 16, 2021, 09:21:48 AM
They seem to still be at least somewhat into the idea of it being a stealth Predator movie in the same way Prometheus was a stealth Alien movie to anyone who hadn't followed the online stuff. Considering the much smaller scale and budget of a Pred flick, I think it's a viable tactic to get word of mouth and innanet hype around/after the release date, and we shouldn't agitate shit or rock the boat, let them do their thing.
Man... I hope the "suprise" Predator movie and producer John Davis announcing the film is called "Skulls" was intended and will continue to hold throughout release. Nothing would excite me more than not seeing a Predator in the trailer, but rather Comanche Natives just being swiped away in the fog by a shadowy creature!
That would be an EPIC trailer!!! I hope to god it's going to be available in Ireland since we don't have Hulu we have Disney+ Starz or Hulu equlivent and its a total joke compared to Hulu, just really want this franchise to do well, as I feel with the law suite happening and another movie flop will be the end of the end of the franchise, To be fair the last movie was total dog S*ite IMHO
The movie is probably still a ways off, and waist deep in post production. It's gonna be a while. We don't even have any idea when it will release. Next year? Maybe. 2023, also maybe. Who knows. Just wait it out.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 18, 2021, 08:21:34 PM
The movie is probably still a ways off, and waist deep in lost production. It's gonna be a while. We don't even have any idea when it will release. Next year? Maybe. 2023, also maybe. Who knows. Just wait it out.
Not certain what you mean by waist deep in lost production? but production was completed last month and now "Skulls" in post-production.
Also, from what we're hearing, we won't have to wait until 2023. :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 18, 2021, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 18, 2021, 08:21:34 PM
The movie is probably still a ways off, and waist deep in lost production. It's gonna be a while. We don't even have any idea when it will release. Next year? Maybe. 2023, also maybe. Who knows. Just wait it out.
Not certain what you mean by waist deep in lost production? but production was completed last month and now "Skulls" in post-production.
Also, from what we're hearing, we won't have to wait until 2023. :)
Typo
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 18, 2021, 10:40:16 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 18, 2021, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 18, 2021, 08:21:34 PM
The movie is probably still a ways off, and waist deep in lost production. It's gonna be a while. We don't even have any idea when it will release. Next year? Maybe. 2023, also maybe. Who knows. Just wait it out.
Not certain what you mean by waist deep in lost production? but production was completed last month and now "Skulls" in post-production.
Also, from what we're hearing, we won't have to wait until 2023. :)
Typo
Ahhhh, lost/post. I didn't even consider that.
Will we be able to buy this on blu Ray??
Maybe. Eventually. Maybe. But it'll be subscription service or flying the jolly roger for 6 months at least.
Unless it gets a cinema release, which it likely will, but that's still not physical home media either.
I doubt they won't release home media. There's still a market for it.
The Predator, despite poor reception, still managed to sell well home release wise (at least in the UK anyway) so there's at least some previous success for them to look back at too.
It also lets them sell all the previous films again in a new box set.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 21, 2021, 11:35:46 AM
The Predator, despite poor reception, still managed to sell well home release wise (at least in the UK anyway) so there's at least some previous success for them to look back at too.
Yeah, it at least seemed to be a bigger hit at home, so much so that at the time, I wondered if it had something to do with an aging core fanbase.
Well hardcore fans who skipped the theater would still probably buy the blu Ray. It's what I did, still feel dirty for buying it lol.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 21, 2021, 07:52:22 PM
It's what I did, still feel dirty for buying it lol.
Don't wash it away ! Rub and smear that dirt all over your body ! You're the dirt and the dirt is one with you
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Quote from: Kradan on Oct 21, 2021, 08:27:32 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 21, 2021, 07:52:22 PM
It's what I did, still feel dirty for buying it lol.
Don't wash it away ! Rub and smear that dirt all over your body ! You're the dirt and the dirt is one with you
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lol
Now AvP: Requiem on the other hand is a nice clean warm bubble bath!
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Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 21, 2021, 07:52:22 PM
Well hardcore fans who skipped the theater would still probably buy the blu Ray. It's what I did, still feel dirty for buying it lol.
Being a hardcore fan, you didn't feel compelled to still go to the theater to see it? I couldn't skip seeing "The Predator" in the theater myself, even if it held a 0% critical score on Rotten Tomatoes!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 21, 2021, 09:15:13 PM
Being a hardcore fan, you didn't feel compelled to still go to the theater to see it? I couldn't skip seeing "The Predator" in the theater myself, even if it held a 0% critical score on Rotten Tomatoes!
I read up on the spoilers and chose to not bother, even though I did have the opportunity to (rare given my geographic isolation).
I regret nothing.
The A Nightmare on Elm Street remake taught me that you can be a hardcore fan and be discerning. I regretted buying that movie after seeing it in theater and knowing I didn't like it, and I have not repeated the mistake for The Predator.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 21, 2021, 09:19:07 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 21, 2021, 09:15:13 PM
Being a hardcore fan, you didn't feel compelled to still go to the theater to see it? I couldn't skip seeing "The Predator" in the theater myself, even if it held a 0% critical score on Rotten Tomatoes!
I read up on the spoilers and chose to not bother, even though I did have the opportunity to (rare given my geographic isolation).
I regret nothing.
After my unfavorable theater experience with The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, I finally voted with my wallet and skipped The Rise of Skywalker.... but I just don't think I could do that with Predator, AvP or Alien. :)
I skipped AvP but watched AvPR in theater. After that experience I skipped Predators and The Predator in favor of home viewing.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 22, 2021, 01:18:11 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 21, 2021, 09:19:07 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 21, 2021, 09:15:13 PM
Being a hardcore fan, you didn't feel compelled to still go to the theater to see it? I couldn't skip seeing "The Predator" in the theater myself, even if it held a 0% critical score on Rotten Tomatoes!
I read up on the spoilers and chose to not bother, even though I did have the opportunity to (rare given my geographic isolation).
I regret nothing.
After my unfavorable theater experience with The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, I finally voted with my wallet and skipped The Rise of Skywalker.... but I just don't think I could do that with Predator, AvP or Alien. :)
A few of the details of The Predator made it an easy skip for me, but I feel that.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 22, 2021, 01:43:28 AM
I skipped AvP but watched AvPR in theater. After that experience I skipped Predators and The Predator in favor of home viewing.
I went to both, had an awful time with AvP because it wasn't what I wanted at all, AvPR I had zero expectations and it may have involved some herbal cigarettes and a pair of cute, easily spooked girls so was a much better experience.
:laugh:
Meanwhile I was not old enough to see either AVP or AVPR in theatres, I saw AVP about a year after I had seen all the other Alien and Predator films in probably 2005, AVPR I picked up in the bargain bin much later in 2009, the first entry I saw in the cinema was Predators I have not missed one since.
I saw AVP in theatres and haven't missed anything since, Prometheus and Covenant included. I totally want to go see Skulls too, if it gets a theater release of course.
Quote from: Trash Queen on Oct 22, 2021, 12:08:04 PM
Meanwhile I was not old enough to see either AVP or AVPR in theatres, I saw AVP about a year after I had seen all the other Alien and Predator films in probably 2005, AVPR I picked up in the bargain bin much later in 2009, the first entry I saw in the cinema was Predators I have not missed one since.
I had a similar experience, though I was old enough to see both AVP + R. I did see Predators in theatres (several times) and then saw The Predator as well. Both AVP and AVPR I bought used and saw before before Predators was announced. I think depending on how this one is released I may just wait until it either gets a theatre release (if it does) or if it gets available in some other way off of Hulu. Don't have any plans of subscribing just for one movie :-\
I didn't see AVP until it was at a video rental (I think). Regardless I completely missed that one in theatres. I did get the DVD soon after but I can't remember how I got it. The rental I might be mistaken on since we had a video rental we frequented at the time that had it. Requiem I also missed on account of its release schedule and I simply never got to see it in the theatre. I did get that one on DVD for a birthday though the blu-ray eluded me since I didn't have a player for it at the time.
A lot of that is on account of just being too young for it and naturally having a theatre nearby but no money and needing a ride there. Not a problem now but it was a problem at the time.
Prometheus and Covenant I missed, and saw later on digital home release. That also being a problem as I started driving fairly late than a lot of my peers and despite having some money, I just didn't have the money to spend on a trip to a theater. I did see Predators and The Predator in theatres. Predators I knew was coming and made an effort to save money for me and a buddy to see it and The Predator by that point I was working, driving, and made sure I had time to see it.
While I'd prefer to watch in a theatre, I'd also be completely fine with a home release since past experience isn't really for a theatre and it's way more convenient than a half hour drive. I'll just do like I did for Mortal Kombat or Godzilla, watch the thing and then cancel the sub if it goes to Hulu.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 22, 2021, 12:13:39 PM
I saw AVP in theatres and haven't missed anything since, Prometheus and Covenant included. I totally want to go see Skulls too, if it gets a theater release of course.
Here's hoping! 🤞
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 22, 2021, 12:13:39 PM
I saw AVP in theatres and haven't missed anything since, Prometheus and Covenant included. I totally want to go see Skulls too, if it gets a theater release of course.
Now see, Alien movies I'm still a religiously day 1 attender. Or a few days before release at a press screening, in the case of Prommy.
I watched prommy and covenant at the theater as well.
I was so hyped for Prometheus. When the credits rolled I can remember looking over at my brother with a confused look and saying "It was okay... I guess?"
First cinema experience I've had with any Alien movie was Alien Covenant. I didn't hate it but remember coming out of it feeling pretty underwhelmed. Movie faired much better for me after home re-watchings
First Predator cinema experience I've had was, well, The Predator. I couldn't really decide whether I liked it or not once the credits started rolling
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 22, 2021, 08:17:55 PM
I watched prommy and covenant at the theater as well.
I was so hyped for Prometheus. When the credits rolled I can remember looking over at my brother with a confused look and saying "It was okay... I guess?"
Try hearing "They should have had the people who made the first two movies make it." :laugh:
Oh God, I can't handle that much "normie"
TQ's face when:
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The stupidity of the guy who ended up getting throat-f***ed by the snake broke Prometheus for me. That and Charlize Theron not being able to run to the side.
Yawn.
Quote from: happypred on Jan 24, 2022, 02:47:36 PM
The stupidity of the guy who ended up getting throat-f***ed by the snake broke Prometheus for me. That and Charlize Theron not being able to run to the side.
Why are you talking about Prometheus here ?
EDIT: Nevermind
Regarding the promotion of the movie..
Most films that debut on a streaming service don't get promoted until closer to the release date. We know this is releasing on Hulu in the summer which means anywhere between July and September.
Netflix for example usually releases a trailer for one of their movies a month or so before the release. The past year has been different because a lot of high profile movies premiered on a streamer and the trailer release dates varied.
Hulu's promotion strategy isn't very clear because they are just now getting into this ''blockbuster'' business. I would imagine we get more information by March if we haven't seen a trailer. I think 20th Century Studios really wants to push their movies premiering on Hulu in order to drive up subscribers.
Normally for a theatrically released movie we get trailers around 3-4 months prior to release. A teaser may come earlier than that but I think once we have a better idea of the release it will be easier to see when the marketing may begin. Right now it could be anywhere from March-August.
I was more worried about The Predator based on the leak script which read like a bag of shit. People told the doubters we were overreacting, but The Predator turned out even worse than what I lot of us were expecting.
In contrast, Prey has a lot of potential, I think.
It's a solid premise if executed well with some thought put into it. The challenge is to make Native Americans from that time period a credible threat to a Predator. They could make the Pred go full primal...no invisibility, no metallic blades. The Pred only uses materials widely available to pre-colonial or early colonial Natives. The Pred could be a young individual going through a basic survival test.
Quote from: happypred on Jan 30, 2022, 05:01:05 AM
IThe challenge is to make Native Americans from that time period a credible threat to a Predator. They could make the Pred go full primal...no invisibility, no metallic blades. The Pred only uses materials widely available to pre-colonial or early colonial Natives. The Pred could be a young individual going through a basic survival test.
100% speculation, but I'm thinking the Natives will not be in the Predator's crosshair, but rather get caught up in the crossfire so to speak, at least at first.
I would be worried but I have learned to not get my hopes up for modern films. I just can't think of a realistic way for Indians to be a legit threat to predators.
Quote from: Bobby Buttnugget on Mar 27, 2022, 04:13:07 AM
I would be worried but I have learned to not get my hopes up for modern films. I just can't think of a realistic way for Indians to be a legit threat to predators.
Dutch or Harrigan could be shot by either hunters at any point. From what we know of Harrigan, for City Hunter it was about the chase and to a degree that's how it is with all of them. They revel in a fight even if it's one sided (remember, even for Dutch it was a one sided fight until the log), but they do want a fight when they have someone or something special in mind. So yeah they can kill just about anything, but if they got a particular target, they're gonna mess with them and beat the snot out of them before finally doing the deed. They'd probably live longer if they cut to the chase to be honest.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 27, 2022, 11:48:33 AM
They'd probably live longer if they cut to the chase to be honest.
I thought arrogance and hubris were always supposed to be their primary weaknesses.
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Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 27, 2022, 11:48:33 AM
Quote from: Bobby Buttnugget on Mar 27, 2022, 04:13:07 AM
I would be worried but I have learned to not get my hopes up for modern films. I just can't think of a realistic way for Indians to be a legit threat to predators.
Dutch or Harrigan could be shot by either hunters at any point. From what we know of Harrigan, for City Hunter it was about the chase and to a degree that's how it is with all of them. They revel in a fight even if it's one sided (remember, even for Dutch it was a one sided fight until the log), but they do want a fight when they have someone or something special in mind. So yeah they can kill just about anything, but if they got a particular target, they're gonna mess with them and beat the snot out of them before finally doing the deed. They'd probably live longer if they cut to the chase to be honest.
Someone tell me the Predators aren't f**king sadistic. :-X
The City Hunter was certainly sadistic with Harrigan. The question is...
...was he.....Dum, Dum Dum....!!!
A Bad Blood?https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=61579.0
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Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 27, 2022, 08:09:34 PM
I thought arrogance and hubris were always supposed to be their primary weaknesses.
I love hubris on crackers. Or perhaps that's hummus.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 27, 2022, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Mar 27, 2022, 11:48:33 AM
They'd probably live longer if they cut to the chase to be honest.
I thought arrogance and hubris were always supposed to be their primary weaknesses.
I thought it was their floppy mandibles. ???
Did you just say......
floppy mandibles?
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Mmm, crab meat :)
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Yautja, Yautja.
Taste like crab, talk like people.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 21, 2021, 11:47:08 AM
It also lets them sell all the previous films again in a new box set.
^^^This. So true.
My friend has just told me that the Alien films on Disney+ (Star in the UK) have been cut to remove some of the language and violence. How much has been removed from them?
That PG-13 rating is looking more likely for Prey.
Has anyone watched Predator on Disney yet? Has anything been cut from it?
I've not watched any of them the times I've had Disney+ since I've got them all on Blu-ray so I can't personally say either way, but a quick Google search seems to indicate that it's probably down to some people mistaking the theatrical cut of Aliens with the Special Edition, and thinking stuff has been cut out as a result.
I'm not immediately seeing anything about the films actually being edited for Disney+ in the UK, but maybe someone who's actually watched them on there can say for certain.
Either way it kinda links up with another minor controversy recently about Disney+ editing, when people noticed that one or two episodes of Falcon and the Winter Soldier had seemingly had a couple of scenes edited for violence, despite having been available on Disney+ for about a year now. Disney said that it was a mistake and apparently changed them back, but it's yet another reason why it's going to suck if this doesn't get a physical release. I don't particularly like the idea of a company/studio etc. potentially changing their minds about something at some point in the future and then just immediately altering it because it only exists in the digital space.
They should put up the 4K versions of Aliens and Alien³ that Fox developed.
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 01, 2022, 07:30:24 PM
Either way it kinda links up with another minor controversy recently about Disney+ editing, when people noticed that one or two episodes of Falcon and the Winter Soldier had seemingly had a couple of scenes edited for violence, despite having been available on Disney+ for about a year now. Disney said that it was a mistake and apparently changed them back, but it's yet another reason why it's going to suck if this doesn't get a physical release. I don't particularly like the idea of a company/studio etc. potentially changing their minds about something at some point in the future and then just immediately altering it because it only exists in the digital space.
I was watching some of Sin City for the umpteenth time several months ago on HBO and I couldn't believe it, but they cut out a seen where Benicio del Toro smacks Brittany Murphy to the floor. It was a jarring cut too. I get violence against women is wrong, but we all got it back then too. It wasn't glorified. Benicio was playing a villian, a bad cop, a bad dude and ultimately gets killed by a woman. Murder is fine, but they cut this smack out of a rated R movie on HBO for fragile audiences?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 28, 2022, 03:16:59 PM
The City Hunter was certainly sadistic with Harrigan. The question is...
...was he.....
Dum, Dum Dum....!!!
A Bad Blood?
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=61579.0
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Quote from: [cancerblack] on Mar 27, 2022, 08:09:34 PM
I thought arrogance and hubris were always supposed to be their primary weaknesses.
I love hubris on crackers. Or perhaps that's hummus.
I have wondered if City Hunter was a Bad Blood seeking redemption, and that is why the Tribe carries him off and acted as if his death was honorable.
Just a street punk
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2022, 10:51:01 PM
Just s street punk
Or he's the Elder Pred's delinquent nephew. :D
It would be a nightmare to encounter a Predator that was not arrogant and purely methodical. Although, I suppose there wouldn't be much of a movie with that. :P
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2022, 07:34:05 PM
They should put up the 4K versions of Aliens and Alien³ that Fox developed.
I want those on disc!
So do I tbh.
Especially since we got reliable reports that they had effects work done, specifically the black sheep, or had it regraded so the painful matte lines looked nowhere near as obvious.
Quote from: PsyKore on Apr 02, 2022, 01:48:24 AM
It would be a nightmare to encounter a Predator that was not arrogant and purely methodical. Although, I suppose there wouldn't be much of a movie with that. :P
City Hunter: "There is method to my madness." :D