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Title: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 07, 2020, 09:03:03 PM
New Plasma Caster models, with some edits to the loadout configs you can equip them on other classes
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/729245079746641940/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/729247366099501076/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/729246284451676181/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)
City Hunter's head, also added to the Elder like the Plasma Casters
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/729821782659563660/zeui1n8z7b951.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/729966279997259836/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)
Lone Wolf mode, previously implied to be the tutorial on the forums, has additional scenarios to it, possible new Single Player mode
(https://scontent.fccm1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106561740_607920766805442_4151220939815838089_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=b9115d&_nc_eui2=AeFc1750DlU8cH6UE-VDvOXak4S_JjvqnR6ThL8mO-qdHrh__al9oVtgKnHwn3dYb3DA-j1v6fJIefHY8V-HmF-u&_nc_ohc=0iUQV5g4mXAAX8Z0hEn&_nc_ht=scontent.fccm1-1.fna&oh=30119764f07deda1f7c6fe8d8486ef43&oe=5F2946C1)

All found by multiple people, both on Discord and Reddit
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Veteran Warrior on Jul 08, 2020, 12:16:52 AM
🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗 I love it!!! This is exciting news!!!!!!! More stuff the better!!!!!!!

The more predator options/skins/weapons we get, the happier I am! I really REALLY want City Hunter (P2) and Wolf (AVP-R)
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 08, 2020, 09:14:46 AM
I think we all suspected them coming, but it's still reassuring. I'm sure we'll get them all eventually! One month at a time! They're a small team.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: The Shuriken on Jul 08, 2020, 01:18:36 PM
A possible single player mode? Dear Lord let it be so! Fingers crossed. For the Predator I mean. I suppose it is possible as well it could be a mode where one fire team player goes against a Predator.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Stitch on Jul 09, 2020, 06:01:49 AM
Possible single player mode? Interesting.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 09, 2020, 03:46:38 PM
New datamined skins and facepaint
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601568857894813707/730745235998769202/SPOILER_unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601568857894813707/730744294092308530/SPOILER_unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601568857894813707/730742983955185694/SPOILER_unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601568857894813707/730741992799207485/SPOILER_unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601568857894813707/730740854507044994/SPOILER_unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601568857894813707/730738379125293106/SPOILER_unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601568857894813707/730736761667584020/SPOILER_unknown.png)
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: BlazinBlueReview on Jul 09, 2020, 03:54:01 PM
The Blood skin looks awesome. Definitely perfect for a Bad Blood Predator.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 09, 2020, 04:07:12 PM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/730816387064266822/SPOILER_unknown.png)
City Hunter's hair
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 09, 2020, 08:44:54 PM
It's funny. Until now, it seems everything that has actually been released... Dutch, Elder, Alpha, Samurai... all of them I believe never has had a discovered datamine for.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 09, 2020, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 09, 2020, 08:44:54 PM
It's funny. Until now, it seems everything that has actually been released... Dutch, Elder, Alpha, Samurai... all of them I believe never has had a discovered datamine for.
Funnily enough, we only found files for them now lol, tho Dutch has unused orange and black Halloween skin too, we also found the name listening for 87 Dutch in the files
(https://preview.redd.it/bnscct7r8w951.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d6c5a4c03c0670286b8921c9a30db9b6ffeebcd7)
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Jul 09, 2020, 11:52:37 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 09, 2020, 08:44:54 PM
It's funny. Until now, it seems everything that has actually been released... Dutch, Elder, Alpha, Samurai... all of them I believe never has had a discovered datamine for.

Datamines aren't always going to be things that are publicly available, sometimes you gotta dig for it. An explanation for this is that City Hunter might be easily found where Dutch or Elder just aren't. It really is just looking through the game's files to see what's there and some items are just more readily available than others. It's how people found the trophies during the trial, it's just in the files. Some things could just be buried or are included in later patches and could be removed. It's also possible that Dutch and Elder could've been in the files and people just missed them as while people looked through the files it's not really something people have been looking into until as of late.

I look at it kind of like how Sean Keyes remarks about the various Predator incursions, either we're finding more or Ilfonic is putting more into the game. They did also just go on vacation for a week so it's possible that they dumped a bunch of stuff in the files to get ready for the DLC drop.

Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 10, 2020, 12:03:21 AM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jul 09, 2020, 11:52:37 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 09, 2020, 08:44:54 PM
It's funny. Until now, it seems everything that has actually been released... Dutch, Elder, Alpha, Samurai... all of them I believe never has had a discovered datamine for.

Datamines aren't always going to be things that are publicly available, sometimes you gotta dig for it. An explanation for this is that City Hunter might be easily found where Dutch or Elder just aren't. It really is just looking through the game's files to see what's there and some items are just more readily available than others. It's how people found the trophies during the trial, it's just in the files. Some things could just be buried or are included in later patches and could be removed. It's also possible that Dutch and Elder could've been in the files and people just missed them as while people looked through the files it's not really something people have been looking into until as of late.

I look at it kind of like how Sean Keyes remarks about the various Predator incursions, either we're finding more or Ilfonic is putting more into the game. They did also just go on vacation for a week so it's possible that they dumped a bunch of stuff in the files to get ready for the DLC drop.
I recall people finding General Grievous in BF2's files at least one year before he got added, and before that it had a bunch of Solo updates and stuff
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 10, 2020, 08:20:28 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jul 09, 2020, 11:52:37 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 09, 2020, 08:44:54 PM
It's funny. Until now, it seems everything that has actually been released... Dutch, Elder, Alpha, Samurai... all of them I believe never has had a discovered datamine for.

Datamines aren't always going to be things that are publicly available, sometimes you gotta dig for it.

Yes, that's what mine.... means....

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/1824de98dfc23f9ee9f121b39c852751/tenor.gif)

;D

QuoteAn explanation for this is that City Hunter might be easily found where Dutch or Elder just aren't. It really is just looking through the game's files to see what's there and some items are just more readily available than others. It's how people found the trophies during the trial, it's just in the files. Some things could just be buried or are included in later patches and could be removed. It's also possible that Dutch and Elder could've been in the files and people just missed them as while people looked through the files it's not really something people have been looking into until as of late.

People have been looking for Dutch since the beginning, especially after Arnold dropped that bomb of being involved with a Predator video game.

I just found the situation funny. No riddle solving necessary for my sake my good friend.  :)
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Mr.Turok on Jul 11, 2020, 09:32:08 PM
For Fireteam, I wonder if there is something for new Fireteam hero classes like Dutch besides a young 87 skin.  I'm looking at you Harrigan, Isabelle, and Royce. Seems like these new stuff favors Pred for now and it got me a little worried.

Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: The Shuriken on Jul 12, 2020, 06:29:28 PM
Is that really Scar's plasma caster? It looks a lot different from the movie.


(https://i.etsystatic.com/17822383/r/il/c13f21/1565483071/il_570xN.1565483071_76p2.jpg)
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Jul 12, 2020, 06:57:07 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 12, 2020, 06:29:28 PM
Is that really Scar's plasma caster? It looks a lot different from the movie.


https://i.etsystatic.com/17822383/r/il/c13f21/1565483071/il_570xN.1565483071_76p2.jpg

We could assume it's some sort of skeleton so the model isn't going to look like that.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 12, 2020, 07:27:32 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 12, 2020, 06:29:28 PM
Is that really Scar's plasma caster? It looks a lot different from the movie.


https://i.etsystatic.com/17822383/r/il/c13f21/1565483071/il_570xN.1565483071_76p2.jpg
Yeah that one looks really different, while the Berserker and City Hunter look accurate but unfinished (with the City Hunter having quite literally a butt on his PC) this one looks small and different, the files call it of Scar Plasma Caster tho
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601568857894813707/729241418752720936/SPOILER_unknown.png)
Also, Berserker's Plasma Caster seem to be the most finished atm, but CH is the only one with a mask listing and a face model in the files
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: RidgeTop on Jul 13, 2020, 06:01:28 PM
Yeah I think that's just a skeleton for the model, but the laser being on the gun itself makes it unmistakably Scar's, which also makes me wonder if he'll have the class ability to be able to aim the plasma caster even after having his bio-mask destroyed.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 13, 2020, 08:20:56 PM
Hmm. While not a precise match either, isn't Scarface's plasma caster pretty similar to that design too?
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: RidgeTop on Jul 13, 2020, 10:17:01 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 13, 2020, 08:20:56 PM
Hmm. While not a precise match either, isn't Scarface's plasma caster pretty similar to that design too?

Yep, Scarface's default plasma caster is exactly that of Scar's, except when it's upgraded: one of the upgrades has some bone ornaments, and the other one is more flat with red lights. Concrete Jungle came out almost a year after AVP so there were definitely some design elements taken from the film.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Jul 13, 2020, 11:28:45 PM
I think Scarface was supposed to have Jungle Hunter's gun but AVP likely had the design change. Though I want to think the JH model they had did end up being the one they use in-game. The weapon showcase trailer does depict what is likely near final and it still had the JH gun so it was probably a last minute change.
(https://ps2media.gamespy.com/ps2/image/article/605/605170/predator-concrete-jungle-20050418015843181.jpg)

The only problem I see with Scarface is that we don't know what his armament really even looks like. His weapons and gear can change depending on what the player finds and not only isn't it commented on but the player can replay levels with it as if he had it the whole time. The only references I can come up with is the Neca figure and it's really only one reference which I imagine is probably based on the promo renders (they can be found in the manual) which differ from the designs seen in-game. Said renders also have different weapons and variants of weapons so who knows what he's actually supposed to be carrying. He doesn't have it in the flashbacks and he can have any of the three once he returns in 2030.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 14, 2020, 01:22:19 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 13, 2020, 08:20:56 PM
Hmm. While not a precise match either, isn't Scarface's plasma caster pretty similar to that design too?
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/Qy2VKY3xlI1QyR6Ix5/200.gif)
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2020, 12:57:21 PM
 :D

It would be cool though wouldn't it.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/a3/6c/08a36cdc0fe8207a464c5bf284d3e648.jpg)
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Kailem on Jul 14, 2020, 01:38:15 PM
The glaive would definitely be a pretty awesome addition to the weapons, so long as it wasn't, y'know, poo.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 14, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
Honestly, I'm hoping the Shuriken, the Glaive and the like are added as upgrades you can apply to weapons like the FT guns, and much like some FT upgrades(mostly the silencer), offer some pros and cons
For example, Shuriken upgrade for Smartdisc, generally faster and has a wider hitbox, but deals less damage and has a limit to how many people it can pierce
Glaive upgrade for Combistick, deals a bit more damage and applys the bleeding effect, but can't be thrown and has a slight smaller hitbox
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and mor...
Post by: Veteran Warrior on Jul 14, 2020, 04:09:43 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 14, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
For example, Shuriken upgrade for Smartdisc, generally faster and has a wider hitbox, but deals less damage and has a limit to how many people it can pierce
Glaive upgrade for Combistick, deals a bit more damage and applys the bleeding effect, but can't be thrown and has a slight smaller hitbox

Well put, my good sir
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: shadowedge on Jul 14, 2020, 09:21:39 PM
It would be cool if each new plasma caster is different based on the movies.

City Hunter: the blast is yellow instead of blue.

Berserker/Mr. Black: rapid fire gatling gun but less accurate.

Scar: bigger blast. He was full on exploding xenomorphs, with them in AVP.

It would be nice if they tweeked Elder's to be used without a mask. In Predator 2 his targeting laser was on the plasma caster itself so he doesn't need a mask to fire it accurately.

Also maybe add a speargun for an upgrade to the bow.

An energy flechette from AVP 2/Predator 2 as an upgrade to the hand held plasma caster? Much quicker and but much weaker damage.

For the shurikin, maybe throw it and it comes back like a boomerang but it can not be auto piloted? That or Pas Spinelli's idea of the same as a smart disk but weaker and can't pierce the whole team.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2020, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 14, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
Honestly, I'm hoping the Shuriken, the Glaive and the like are added as upgrades you can apply to weapons like the FT guns, and much like some FT upgrades(mostly the silencer), offer some pros and cons
For example, Shuriken upgrade for Smartdisc, generally faster and has a wider hitbox, but deals less damage and has a limit to how many people it can pierce
Glaive upgrade for Combistick, deals a bit more damage and applys the bleeding effect, but can't be thrown and has a slight smaller hitbox

The Shuriken will never be an "upgrade" to the Smart Disc in my dojo.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/sdLSQGV9BQRKU/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 14, 2020, 11:15:04 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2020, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 14, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
Honestly, I'm hoping the Shuriken, the Glaive and the like are added as upgrades you can apply to weapons like the FT guns, and much like some FT upgrades(mostly the silencer), offer some pros and cons
For example, Shuriken upgrade for Smartdisc, generally faster and has a wider hitbox, but deals less damage and has a limit to how many people it can pierce
Glaive upgrade for Combistick, deals a bit more damage and applys the bleeding effect, but can't be thrown and has a slight smaller hitbox

The Shuriken will never be an "upgrade" to the Smart Disc in my dojo.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/sdLSQGV9BQRKU/giphy.gif

apparently, the Shuriken model has the same rig as the disc :/
really wished it wold be like the AvP2 2001 Smartdisc, but oh well
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: shadowedge on Jul 15, 2020, 12:38:51 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 14, 2020, 11:15:04 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2020, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 14, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
Honestly, I'm hoping the Shuriken, the Glaive and the like are added as upgrades you can apply to weapons like the FT guns, and much like some FT upgrades(mostly the silencer), offer some pros and cons
For example, Shuriken upgrade for Smartdisc, generally faster and has a wider hitbox, but deals less damage and has a limit to how many people it can pierce
Glaive upgrade for Combistick, deals a bit more damage and applys the bleeding effect, but can't be thrown and has a slight smaller hitbox

The Shuriken will never be an "upgrade" to the Smart Disc in my dojo.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/sdLSQGV9BQRKU/giphy.gif

apparently, the Shuriken model has the same rig as the disc :/
really wished it wold be like the AvP2 2001 Smartdisc, but oh well

The AVP 2001 version that auto targets and tracks the other player? That was cool.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: The Shuriken on Jul 15, 2020, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2020, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 14, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
Honestly, I'm hoping the Shuriken, the Glaive and the like are added as upgrades you can apply to weapons like the FT guns, and much like some FT upgrades(mostly the silencer), offer some pros and cons
For example, Shuriken upgrade for Smartdisc, generally faster and has a wider hitbox, but deals less damage and has a limit to how many people it can pierce
Glaive upgrade for Combistick, deals a bit more damage and applys the bleeding effect, but can't be thrown and has a slight smaller hitbox

The Shuriken will never be an "upgrade" to the Smart Disc in my dojo.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/sdLSQGV9BQRKU/giphy.gif

Those are fighting words.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 15, 2020, 04:28:58 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 15, 2020, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2020, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 14, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
Honestly, I'm hoping the Shuriken, the Glaive and the like are added as upgrades you can apply to weapons like the FT guns, and much like some FT upgrades(mostly the silencer), offer some pros and cons
For example, Shuriken upgrade for Smartdisc, generally faster and has a wider hitbox, but deals less damage and has a limit to how many people it can pierce
Glaive upgrade for Combistick, deals a bit more damage and applys the bleeding effect, but can't be thrown and has a slight smaller hitbox

The Shuriken will never be an "upgrade" to the Smart Disc in my dojo.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/sdLSQGV9BQRKU/giphy.gif

Those are fighting words.

:D

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/Dea0leKapJzJC/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Tichinde on Jul 22, 2020, 12:13:57 AM
I look forward to killing that bastardization of yautja's from predators personally. I hope the fireteam can cut off the berserker's arm like in the film and see that thing scream it's last breath like a coward  ;D
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 05:14:13 PM
New listening in the files for customization mentions stuff that isn't ingame.
Eyes, emotes and armor(FT has outfit style ingame, so this is probs for Pred) style.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/737263524316971068/unknown.png)
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: RidgeTop on Jul 27, 2020, 06:54:04 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 05:14:13 PM
New listening in the files for customization mentions stuff that isn't ingame.
Eyes, emotes and armor(FT has outfit style ingame, so this is probs for Pred) style.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/737263524316971068/unknown.png)

We better get the Predator 2 dance routine emote.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 27, 2020, 06:56:46 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 27, 2020, 06:54:04 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 05:14:13 PM
New listening in the files for customization mentions stuff that isn't ingame.
Eyes, emotes and armor(FT has outfit style ingame, so this is probs for Pred) style.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/737263524316971068/unknown.png)

We better get the Predator 2 dance routine emote.

:laugh:

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/6Nqhy8jStXirS/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 07:27:00 PM
We might be getting some iconic lines too, like "want some candy"
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: BlazinBlueReview on Jul 27, 2020, 07:47:13 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 27, 2020, 06:56:46 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 27, 2020, 06:54:04 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 05:14:13 PM
New listening in the files for customization mentions stuff that isn't ingame.
Eyes, emotes and armor(FT has outfit style ingame, so this is probs for Pred) style.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/737263524316971068/unknown.png)

We better get the Predator 2 dance routine emote.

:laugh:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/6Nqhy8jStXirS/giphy.gif

Seeing this and immediately first song popped in my head is "Never Gonna Give You Up".
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Jul 27, 2020, 07:51:48 PM
If we ever got a game mode with multiple Predators we need a win cinematic for the Predators doing the dance.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 27, 2020, 08:03:59 PM
Alright, update
Eye section refers to FT eyewear accessories
Emote refers to the Pred roar but the seems like it can be changed, we may get more emotes for him soon
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: acrediblesource on Jul 27, 2020, 09:18:52 PM
If there is ever 2 predators in a match at once, it makes sense to compare your PRedator loadout with another Predator in the lobby. Allowing for uniqueness especially with voices to differentiate them two. Now i'm not sure what emotes means, but this is what it could mean. Voice. It could mean something else entirely.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Tichinde on Jul 27, 2020, 10:43:27 PM
How cool would it be if they added a pred v pred game mode like badblood vs enforcer.

Might sound like a pipe dream but I think they could and might actually do that.

One can dream
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: acrediblesource on Jul 27, 2020, 11:34:23 PM
 Would be really interesting to see how cool a pred vs pred match would be. It would be entirely up to your customization prior to a match.
You can have a samurai with samurai or City Hunter vs Elder!
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: The Shuriken on Jul 28, 2020, 04:19:02 AM
Does anyone suspect the lone wolf mode could be 1 fire team player vs a Predator all themselves or would that basically be impossible?
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Jul 28, 2020, 03:01:44 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 28, 2020, 04:19:02 AM
Does a fine suspect the lone wolf mode could be 1 fire team player vs a Predator all themselves or would that basically be impossible?

It's not impossible to take down the Predator on your own, I've done it a couple of times. That being said it's not particularly easy and I don't know if that's going to make for a fairly good game mode since Predators can be wildly overpowered.
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 30, 2020, 12:44:25 PM
More future DLC hints from the Illfonic boards...

(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8c8d9764d43544f145d1580b5f74589fe141ef22.png)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Jul 30, 2020, 05:38:21 PM
From Reddit:

(https://external-preview.redd.it/eZEii2rxIy9CAUQs_TG9E58NJHvb3eovmqtGBy2pDz8.png?auto=webp&s=cce05371070def396e47cbd33a74e57c8d652654)

Looks like 'Last Man Standing' perks. Maybe something that kicks in when you're the last FT member left to give you something of a chance?

Also from Reddit, 87' Dutch via Artist's Instagram:

(https://preview.redd.it/6uq2sr2782e51.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=db79f9f6a4e6bc635b2bd67afef99f0767702784)

Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 31, 2020, 02:05:37 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 30, 2020, 05:38:21 PM
From Reddit:

https://external-preview.redd.it/eZEii2rxIy9CAUQs_TG9E58NJHvb3eovmqtGBy2pDz8.png?auto=webp&s=cce05371070def396e47cbd33a74e57c8d652654

Looks like 'Last Man Standing' perks. Maybe something that kicks in when you're the last FT member left to give you something of a chance?

Also from Reddit, 87' Dutch via Artist's Instagram:

(https://preview.redd.it/6uq2sr2782e51.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=db79f9f6a4e6bc635b2bd67afef99f0767702784)

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDRyO_lgZU4/
Dutch posts are getting taken down, told y'all he was on the files
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 31, 2020, 08:00:05 AM
Looks f**king good in that render!
Title: Re: New datamines: Mr Black, Scar, City Hunter and more
Post by: bendinglight on Jul 31, 2020, 10:26:26 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 30, 2020, 12:44:25 PM
More future DLC hints from the Illfonic boards...

(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8c8d9764d43544f145d1580b5f74589fe141ef22.png)

Ohhhh, nice! Looks like the car crash items could be alluding to a city map, maybe? Would also be a treat if Harrigan popped up in some of the leaks or was part of the next DLC.

As for LMS, that would be great if there was something to mimic the end fight with Jungle Hunter and Dutch...I know this topic has been touched upon in a number of threads in the Illfonic forum and the certain perks (or lack thereof) that would be part of that showdown.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Aug 01, 2020, 05:22:50 PM
That '87 Dutch looks great! Perhaps a little sunken around the eyes, but great!

Wonder if this means we'll be seeing him sooner rather than later?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Aug 01, 2020, 09:12:24 PM
Not exactly a datamine but a while ago somebody on the Reddit posted about this "Alien" blood being found on Overgrowth. I decided to see for myself if that's the case and I'll be damned since that actually shows up. Weirdly the sniper will bleed normal and leave an "acid corrosion" texture on the metal. The blood will still be red and fade away but the corroded section will remain. After leading a bunch of enemies up there to see if it's something about that spot it seems its only the sniper but this seems kind of big.

I assumed the Predator autopsy was just the OWLF or Stargazer dissecting them but now the thing makes me wonder if the body is an objective item for some sort of AVP mode. Perhaps a Predalien? Maybe even a spawn point for a Predalien? If anyone can dig into those files they probably should to see if that texture has any sort of name.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Aug 02, 2020, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 01, 2020, 09:12:24 PM
Not exactly a datamine but a while ago somebody on the Reddit posted about this "Alien" blood being found on Overgrowth. I decided to see for myself if that's the case and I'll be damned since that actually shows up. Weirdly the sniper will bleed normal and leave an "acid corrosion" texture on the metal. The blood will still be red and fade away but the corroded section will remain. After leading a bunch of enemies up there to see if it's something about that spot it seems its only the sniper but this seems kind of big.

I assumed the Predator autopsy was just the OWLF or Stargazer dissecting them but now the thing makes me wonder if the body is an objective item for some sort of AVP mode. Perhaps a Predalien? Maybe even a spawn point for a Predalien? If anyone can dig into those files they probably should to see if that texture has any sort of name.

(https://i.redd.it/m02emmjfdge51.jpg)

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/i1zfx4/decided_to_investigate_the_alien_blood_it_really/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Aug 02, 2020, 06:14:48 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 02, 2020, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 01, 2020, 09:12:24 PM
Not exactly a datamine but a while ago somebody on the Reddit posted about this "Alien" blood being found on Overgrowth. I decided to see for myself if that's the case and I'll be damned since that actually shows up. Weirdly the sniper will bleed normal and leave an "acid corrosion" texture on the metal. The blood will still be red and fade away but the corroded section will remain. After leading a bunch of enemies up there to see if it's something about that spot it seems its only the sniper but this seems kind of big.

I assumed the Predator autopsy was just the OWLF or Stargazer dissecting them but now the thing makes me wonder if the body is an objective item for some sort of AVP mode. Perhaps a Predalien? Maybe even a spawn point for a Predalien? If anyone can dig into those files they probably should to see if that texture has any sort of name.

(https://i.redd.it/m02emmjfdge51.jpg)

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/i1zfx4/decided_to_investigate_the_alien_blood_it_really/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
Just a bug, nothing more, nothing less
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Aug 02, 2020, 10:43:40 PM
What a curious bug though
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 03, 2020, 04:20:24 AM
I would totally be down for a pred v 4 xenos mode. Not gonna happen though, would change the game too much, all melee, no combat system? Can't work
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 03, 2020, 07:58:42 AM
No Aliens in my Predator game please.  >:(
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Aug 03, 2020, 09:27:47 AM
OK, geez
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: bendinglight on Aug 03, 2020, 12:06:01 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 03, 2020, 07:58:42 AM
No Aliens in my Predator game please.  >:(

Agreed :)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 03, 2020, 04:38:41 PM
Quote from: bendinglight on Aug 03, 2020, 12:06:01 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 03, 2020, 07:58:42 AM
No Aliens in my Predator game please.  >:(

Agreed :)

Thirded.

Predator gets so few Predator only games and titles. Alternate game modes and maps yes, but this game doesn't need a Xenomorph in the jungle.

You want alien creatures? Add the hell-hounds, river ghosts or some of those other creatures on or off that trophy wall. Expand the Predator lore. That's what you do!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 03, 2020, 08:18:52 PM
I agree. Really hoping for Hell Hounds in this one.! I mean, dogs would be dumb AI anyway, so kind of disguises itself!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Aug 04, 2020, 12:43:22 AM
Nah, let's get some Aliens in this jungle.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Aug 04, 2020, 05:30:19 AM
Yay  :D !

I mean, it's AVPGalaxy, right ? Idea existed since 90s, just embrace it !
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 04, 2020, 07:29:31 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 04, 2020, 12:43:22 AM
Nah, let's get some Aliens in this jungle.

In an Alien vs. Predator game, sure! We kind of got a taste of that in 2010 but I think it lost something when it got to the Jungle maps. I'd still love to see it in a film, though. A hived up jungle.

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 03, 2020, 04:38:41 PM
You want alien creatures? Add the hell-hounds, river ghosts or some of those other creatures on or off that trophy wall. Expand the Predator lore. That's what you do!

Yes please! Give me the River Ghosts!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Aug 04, 2020, 07:52:51 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 04, 2020, 07:29:31 AM
I'd still love to see it in a film, though. A hived up jungle.

How woud you imagine that looking though ? Gluing hosts to the trees ?  I've hard time picturing it in my head. I think, xenos would prefer more closed, claustrophobic spaces like caves or mines or something like that where it's easier to ambush potential hosts
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 05, 2020, 01:57:20 AM
I gotta be honest though I can't seperate aliens and predators lol, like they are so intertwined in a harmonious balance i don't even consider it a crossover series at this point, just purely cohesive. Now for Alien fans exclusively im sure you will throw a shit fit, but for me every predator in the history of predators is tied to the hard meat in some way. Predators can't even hunt sentient species alone before being blooded which means somewhere along the line the Jungle Hunter killed an Alien to become a man. Its all tied together, its not seperate, be like me and embrace the connection, don't go throwing a bitch fit over every incongruity, just accept your favorite sci fi monsters are bred to be hunted and killed by teenage predators as a rite of passage. They are insects to the almighty Yautja amen 🙏
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Aug 05, 2020, 07:05:20 AM
I liked where it was going but then oof
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 05, 2020, 07:39:38 AM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 05, 2020, 01:57:20 AM
Predators can't even hunt sentient species alone before being blooded which means somewhere along the line the Jungle Hunter killed an Alien to become a man.

Considering that outside of the AvP film's (actually, does Wolf even have one? I know he's scarred up to f**k, but I can't remember seeing one on his actual face?), none of the Predators are shown to have blooding marks, that doesn't work.


Quote from: Kradan on Aug 04, 2020, 07:52:51 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 04, 2020, 07:29:31 AM
I'd still love to see it in a film, though. A hived up jungle.

How woud you imagine that looking though ? Gluing hosts to the trees ?  I've hard time picturing it in my head. I think, xenos would prefer more closed, claustrophobic spaces like caves or mines or something like that where it's easier to ambush potential hosts

I imagine like those scary ass jungle images with spider-webs all over the place. I just see them creating their own kind of grottos.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 05, 2020, 10:42:58 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 05, 2020, 07:05:20 AM
I liked where it was going but then oof

I kinda felt like it was too preachy it started out serious but then I made it a joke at the end  :P


"Considering that outside of the AvP film's (actually, does Wolf even have one? I know he's scarred up to f**k, but I can't remember seeing one on his actual face?), none of the Predators are shown to have blooding marks, that doesn't work."

I think that's a relatively small compliant. Firstly, Wolf had half his face burned off, so I severely doubt if he did have a mark we would see it. Secondly, the lost tribe, the JH are all pre AVP, so complaining about them not having scarring is unfair, in lore I assume they would nowadays
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 05, 2020, 10:57:13 AM
It's not unfair. It just doesn't fit with the established lore from then. You can head canon it and say they have different practices better than you can just saying it was made before AvP. It's got to fit.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Aug 05, 2020, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 05, 2020, 07:39:38 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 04, 2020, 07:52:51 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 04, 2020, 07:29:31 AM
I'd still love to see it in a film, though. A hived up jungle.

How woud you imagine that looking though ? Gluing hosts to the trees ?  I've hard time picturing it in my head. I think, xenos would prefer more closed, claustrophobic spaces like caves or mines or something like that where it's easier to ambush potential hosts

I imagine like those scary ass jungle images with spider-webs all over the place. I just see them creating their own kind of grottos.

Hm, I can see that. I still think they would choose less-open enviroment, but at least now I can picture it in my head. Yeah, it would be cool visual for sure
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 05, 2020, 11:14:14 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 05, 2020, 10:57:13 AM
It's not unfair. It just doesn't fit with the established lore from then. You can head canon it and say they have different practices better than you can just saying it was made before AvP. It's got to fit.

I mean sure, but like there's a distinct difference here. The pre-req to being a clan leader is to at least be blooded, Greyback is confirmed to be the leader of the LA hunting party and as we see they've got a xeno skull. Yet Greyback doesn't have the mark on his head. Where is it? Well I don't know, maybe it's hidden under all that sexy body armor, but either way we know he's blooded, so maybe some clans marks the blood of the kill and others don't? I guess that would make sense, because we know from Neca Berserker has killed his first Xeno and he isn't blooded. The guy hive wars predator wasn't blooded visually and we know he killed a shit ton of xenos.

It's not headcanon, I'm trying to straddle the inconsistencies just like you are, though I think it comes out like Fandom because some of the theories I propose aren't that good and are based on a singular clans rules rather than the entire species *shrug*

If you have a better explanation feel free.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Aug 05, 2020, 11:30:40 AM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 05, 2020, 11:14:14 AM
Yet Greyback doesn't have the mark on his head. Where is it? Well I don't know, maybe it's hidden under all that sexy body armor,



Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 05, 2020, 12:15:11 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 05, 2020, 11:14:14 AM
If you have a better explanation feel free.

You wont like the explanation. In the real world, it's quite simply that they aren't all connected the way you want them to be. They aren't a Cinematic Universe the way that Marvel is. That isn't how they were constructed and trying to fit them together requires some degree of mental gymnastics. Or more accurately, head-canon. That's all it is. Head canon. And there's nothing wrong with that. Just don't expect everyone else to be onboard with your interpretation, because that is all it is. And again, there's nothing wrong with that in the slightest.

Personally, I just go back to what I said earlier. It's just the easiest way for me to interpret all the different Predator films, all the different Predator appearances. Different Predator clans. Different clans have different practices. Different clans are made up of different Predator ethnicity. That's my take on it.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Aug 05, 2020, 11:22:08 PM
AvP is not canon, never was and hopefully never will be
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Aug 06, 2020, 05:46:26 AM
*said the man on the site known as AVPGalaxy*
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Galactus123 on Aug 06, 2020, 06:28:19 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 05, 2020, 11:22:08 PM
AvP is not canon, never was and hopefully never will be
I'm pretty sure they are canon to Predator movies. Alien skull was seen in Predator 2. Alien movies don't think them as canon though.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 06, 2020, 07:58:51 AM
Word of God seems to be that yes, the AvPs are canon to the Predator series as of The Predator.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Aug 06, 2020, 08:27:41 AM
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PointedThickGlassfrog-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 12:26:13 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 06, 2020, 07:58:51 AM
Word of God seems to be that yes, the AvPs are canon to the Predator series as of The Predator.

Which makes my much maligned homegirl canonical!

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/alien/images/7/7e/Predalien1.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20121012192644&path-prefix=pl)
;D
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 06, 2020, 01:27:39 PM
To Predator, sure.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: TheBATMAN on Aug 06, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
I'm still not accepting of Yautja as a canonical aspect never mind a shared AVP universe.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Aug 06, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
I'm still not accepting of Yautja as a canonical aspect never mind a shared AVP universe.

You will accept it!!

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-05-2015/s3Bx59.gif)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Aug 06, 2020, 04:40:00 PM
Quote from: Galactus123 on Aug 06, 2020, 06:28:19 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 05, 2020, 11:22:08 PM
AvP is not canon, never was and hopefully never will be
I'm pretty sure they are canon to Predator movies. Alien skull was seen in Predator 2. Alien movies don't think them as canon though.
The skull was a easter egg because SW studios had worked on Aliens prior to Predator 2, the only piece of Predator media that acknowledges AvP is The Predator but that movie also tries to say autism is a power that allows you to translate anything and that Predators get our spines for our DNA and not for sport. And much like all retcons made in The Predator, current canon lore ignores AvP

Again, if AVP is canon, where is the mark on all the Predators we've seen so far? Why did Greyback not have the mark? Jungle Hunter is basically a confirmed blooded Warrior as he was hunting by himself and not being overseen by his Clan, where was his mark? All of the Lost Clan lacked the Mark yet, as of PHG, they are all confirmed older than City Hunter, so where is their mark?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Xiggz456 on Aug 06, 2020, 05:14:54 PM
As Hicks so poignantly put it: Different clans different practices

It's hands down the easiest explanation for any inconsistencies amongst Predators.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 05:54:17 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 06, 2020, 04:40:00 PM
The skull was a easter egg because SW studios had worked on Aliens prior to Predator 2, the only piece of Predator media that acknowledges AvP is The Predator but that movie also tries to say autism is a power that allows you to translate anything and that Predators get our spines for our DNA and not for sport. And much like all retcons made in The Predator, current canon lore ignores AvP

Errrrrr, ummm, bzzzz, wrong answer!! Stargazer will hunt you down now.

Stargazer is in the new Predator: Hunting Grounds game which has been confirmed as canon. Along with Stargazer, the mandible Pred-dogs are in the current Titan Prequel novel to said game titled Predator: Stalking Shadows.

But fortunately for us, not all Predators harvest DNA!

(https://i.ibb.co/gP7FD4M/Screenshot-20181012-104812.jpg)

So just remember...

(https://i.ibb.co/G51XyF4/IMG-20150810-163538-2.png)


Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Aug 06, 2020, 06:03:14 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 05:54:17 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 06, 2020, 04:40:00 PM
The skull was a easter egg because SW studios had worked on Aliens prior to Predator 2, the only piece of Predator media that acknowledges AvP is The Predator but that movie also tries to say autism is a power that allows you to translate anything and that Predators get our spines for our DNA and not for sport. And much like all retcons made in The Predator, current canon lore ignores AvP

Errrrrr, ummm, bzzzz, wrong answer!! Stargazer will hunt you down now.

Stargazer is in the new Predator: Hunting Grounds game which has been confirmed as canon. Along with Stargazer, the mandible Pred-dogs are in the current Titan Prequel novel Predator: Stalking Shadows.

But fortunately for us, not all Predators harvest DNA!

(https://i.ibb.co/gP7FD4M/Screenshot-20181012-104812.jpg)

So just remember...

(https://i.ibb.co/G51XyF4/IMG-20150810-163538-2.png)
I said current lore ignores the retcons, as in, the retcon that the Predators hunt for DNA to mutate themselves and they are hunting humans for our DNA and, sigh, autism.
Also, Shane said one thing outside the movie, but in the movie, the characters specifically reference the ENTIRE species as hybridizing themselves, we should judge the movie based on what it offers, not with outside info not referenced in it
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 06:34:14 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 06, 2020, 06:03:14 PM
I said current lore ignores the retcons, as in, the retcon that the Predators hunt for DNA to mutate themselves and they are hunting humans for our DNA and, sigh, autism.

Uh, so The Predator isn't canon? Or Stargazer is, Sean Keyes is, hybrid Pred-Dogs are canon, but the movie itself isn't including AvP connections? When did this happen? Can you show us?

QuoteAlso, Shane said one thing outside the movie, but in the movie, the characters specifically reference the ENTIRE species as hybridizing themselves,

First, even when you say ENTIRE in all caps, it still doesn't make it true. ;)  Second, when did they declare "entire species" in the movie? I must have missed that. I heard Traeger theorize, within 24 hours of Traeger wanting Casey to investigate if a human f*cked a Predator. It sounds like these hypothesis are still hypothesis, works in progress. Even Nimród won't deny the Super Predators dabble in hybridization.

Quotewe should judge the movie based on what it offers, not with outside info not referenced in it

Yet at the same time suggest something outside retconned certain moments inside the film including AvP?  :P
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Aug 06, 2020, 07:04:27 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 06, 2020, 06:03:14 PM
I said current lore ignores the retcons, as in, the retcon that the Predators hunt for DNA to mutate themselves and they are hunting humans for our DNA and, sigh, autism.
Also, Shane said one thing outside the movie, but in the movie, the characters specifically reference the ENTIRE species as hybridizing themselves, we should judge the movie based on what it offers, not with outside info not referenced in it

That logic seems like picking and choosing to me. Creators absolutely have the ability to lay more insight on what occurred in a novel, movie, ect. Sure there are outliners against this notion, aka J. K. Rowling, but mostly it had always given clarity to lore in where viewers get confused.

Secondly, if we are talking about canon and how the AVP series shares timeline with Predator, we can take a look at Hunting Grounds. HG is canon to the series and had proven that Predators still hunt for sport. Sean Keyes and Dutch tapes have shown that throughout the years Predators are hunting for sport and also visiting more frequently due to the increasing global temperatures and human conflict that attracts them. Predator Hunting Grounds even has hints thanks to the DATAmining, that if the Super Predators are going to make an appearance than that should mean that the introduction of Bad Bloods is a possibility and so far its been shown that bad bloods are the ones who are DNA splicing.

Lastly, if AVP is canon to the timeline in The Predator, the Isolated Clan (I believe that is the canon name for Scar/Celtic/Chopper's clan) would have shown signs of taken Alien DNA and attempt hybridization. Not to mention taken Lex's spine since she shown great intelligence and resourcefulness. Again not all clans do DNA splicing and not all clans use Aliens to brand themselves in ritual hunts. 

So all in all, don't take the as me accepting the idea of weaponized autism cuz I still think this is incredibly stupid. However the idea of a clan of Predators practicing hybridization isn't far fetched either. Nothing is monolithic and Predators being a race of sapient beings will have their own diverse ideas on how to practice the common sacred ritual of The Hunt, some hunt Aliens and brand themselves with them with their blood, others do hybridization. After all look as us humans who have seven continents, hosting just under two hundred sovereign states, with an estimated five thousand ethnicities and 7,000 living languages. There is no reason to suspect that alien life forms would be any different.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Aug 06, 2020, 07:27:16 PM
Oh boy here we go again with the Canon...
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 07:28:41 PM
Join the Darkside....

Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 06, 2020, 07:04:27 PM
That logic seems like picking and choosing to me. Creators absolutely have the ability to lay more insight on what occurred in a novel, movie, ect. Sure there are outliners against this notion, aka J. K. Rowling, but mostly it had always given clarity to lore in where viewers get confused.

Illfonic and Titan have been doing exactly that. Not retconning the lore, but fixing it. Adding elements to make bad elements enjoyable.  I actually like Stargazer now!!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Aug 06, 2020, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 06:34:14 PM
Uh, so The Predator isn't canon? Or Stargazer is, Sean Keyes is, hybrid Pred-Dogs are canon, but the movie itself isn't including AvP connections? When did this happen? Can you show us?
That's not what I'm saying at all, I'm specifically talking about the retcons, not the movie itself, again, the movie says something through exposition, this exposition talks about the predators as a species/society, implying it's the entire species and not a specific group. Again, I'm referring to the retcons and what the movie implies via dialogue, not the events in the movie itself.

QuoteFirst, even when you say ENTIRE in all caps, it still doesn't make it true. ;)  Second, when did they declare "entire species" in the movie? I must have missed that. I heard Traeger theorize, within 24 hours of Traeger wanting Casey to investigate if a human f*cked a Predator. It sounds like these hypothesis are still hypothesis, works in progress. Even Nimród won't deny the Super Predators dabble in hybridization.
Sure, they don't outright say "all the Predators are mutating themselves via DNA tampering", but the wording of the exposition still implies the entire species. The dialogue is there to inform the audience, just like the part where they say autism is the next step in evolution.
There's the possibly that this is a mistake, and the movie was planned to differentiate the Predators, but that could have been lost btw the cuts.

QuoteYet at the same time suggest something outside retconned certain moments inside the film including AvP?  :P
That's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is that the movie implies something while Shane says something else, and like with any piece of media, the movie has to be criticized with what it offers. Just like we judge a book based on what is in the book instead of what the author says about the book. Information like this only matters when presented within the franchise, not outside it.

With that said, AvP is being ignored by both Stalking Shadows and the tapes in PHG, while yes, the canon of the game can be questionable as we have already dead individuals Preds in 2025 and even 4 Dutches in one match, the tapes in question are canon and they record OWLF findings, and both book and game ignore the events in 2004. If we are to believe they are in the same Universe, isn't it weird that the nuking of a town would go unnoticed by the OWLF? What about the artifacts from AvP, why are the tapes not covering them too? Unless the AvP easter eggs in The Predator are meant to be Stargazer findings from before they took over (Which tbf, could be really cool), their canon status is questionable.

It's worth noting how the description for Stalking Shadows says it's meant to link the continuity, from Predator 2 to Hunting Grounds, but it doesn't make any reference to AvP, which again, if they were canon, for sure Stalking Shadows or the tapes would mention the military nuking a town because of an otherworldly infestation, it was something within the OWLF's area afterall.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Aug 06, 2020, 09:05:23 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 06, 2020, 07:27:16 PM
Oh boy here we go again with the Canon...

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Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 09:10:26 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 06, 2020, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 06:34:14 PM
Uh, so The Predator isn't canon? Or Stargazer is, Sean Keyes is, hybrid Pred-Dogs are canon, but the movie itself isn't including AvP connections? When did this happen? Can you show us?
That's not what I'm saying at all, I'm specifically talking about the retcons, not the movie itself, again, the movie says something through exposition, this exposition talks about the predators as a species/society, implying it's the entire species and not a specific group. Again, I'm referring to the retcons and what the movie implies via dialogue, not the events in the movie itself.

QuoteFirst, even when you say ENTIRE in all caps, it still doesn't make it true. ;)  Second, when did they declare "entire species" in the movie? I must have missed that. I heard Traeger theorize, within 24 hours of Traeger wanting Casey to investigate if a human f*cked a Predator. It sounds like these hypothesis are still hypothesis, works in progress. Even Nimród won't deny the Super Predators dabble in hybridization.
Sure, they don't outright say "all the Predators are mutating themselves via DNA tampering", but the wording of the exposition still implies the entire species. The dialogue is there to inform the audience, just like the part where they say autism is the next step in evolution.
There's the possibly that this is a mistake, and the movie was planned to differentiate the Predators, but that could have been lost btw the cuts.

QuoteYet at the same time suggest something outside retconned certain moments inside the film including AvP?  :P
That's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is that the movie implies something while Shane says something else, and like with any piece of media, the movie has to be criticized with what it offers. Just like we judge a book based on what is in the book instead of what the author says about the book. Information like this only matters when presented within the franchise, not outside it.

With that said, AvP is being ignored by both Stalking Shadows and the tapes in PHG, while yes, the canon of the game can be questionable as we have already dead individuals Preds in 2025 and even 4 Dutches in one match, the tapes in question are canon and they record OWLF findings, and both book and game ignore the events in 2004. If we are to believe they are in the same Universe, isn't it weird that the nuking of a town would go unnoticed by the OWLF? What about the artifacts from AvP, why are the tapes not covering them too? Unless the AvP easter eggs in The Predator are meant to be Stargazer findings from before they took over (Which tbf, could be really cool), their canon status is questionable.

It's worth noting how the description for Stalking Shadows says it's meant to link the continuity, from Predator 2 to Hunting Grounds, but it doesn't make any reference to AvP, which again, if they were canon, for sure Stalking Shadows or the tapes would mention the military nuking a town because of an otherworldly infestation, it was something within the OWLF's area afterall.

Your original position was this "AvP is not canon, never was and hopefully never will be".

Now you've morphed into AvP was Predator canon, but PHG not mentioning AvP in either Peter Keyes OWLF Recordings or Dutch's tapes means it was retconned, all while Scar and the Shuriken has been found in the datamines? Where does your position go once these have been released?

If you need an explanation, OWLF Peter Keyes and Dutch may not been aware of what went down with the nuke and subsequent military and Yutani cover up. Nor Weyland's activities or how Stargazer obtained a spear and when. But the movies set the canon playground. The EU just simply plays within and around it depending on what licenses (Predator, AvP or both) the licensee has. Cheers! :)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Aug 06, 2020, 09:11:01 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 07:28:41 PM
I actually like Stargazer now!!

Then what - you gonna tell me you don't mind Crabators? Sheesh
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 09:42:36 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 06, 2020, 09:11:01 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 07:28:41 PM
I actually like Stargazer now!!

Then what - you gonna tell me you don't mind Crabators? Sheesh

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Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Aug 06, 2020, 10:46:55 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 09:10:26 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 06, 2020, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 06:34:14 PM
Uh, so The Predator isn't canon? Or Stargazer is, Sean Keyes is, hybrid Pred-Dogs are canon, but the movie itself isn't including AvP connections? When did this happen? Can you show us?
That's not what I'm saying at all, I'm specifically talking about the retcons, not the movie itself, again, the movie says something through exposition, this exposition talks about the predators as a species/society, implying it's the entire species and not a specific group. Again, I'm referring to the retcons and what the movie implies via dialogue, not the events in the movie itself.

QuoteFirst, even when you say ENTIRE in all caps, it still doesn't make it true. ;)  Second, when did they declare "entire species" in the movie? I must have missed that. I heard Traeger theorize, within 24 hours of Traeger wanting Casey to investigate if a human f*cked a Predator. It sounds like these hypothesis are still hypothesis, works in progress. Even Nimród won't deny the Super Predators dabble in hybridization.
Sure, they don't outright say "all the Predators are mutating themselves via DNA tampering", but the wording of the exposition still implies the entire species. The dialogue is there to inform the audience, just like the part where they say autism is the next step in evolution.
There's the possibly that this is a mistake, and the movie was planned to differentiate the Predators, but that could have been lost btw the cuts.

QuoteYet at the same time suggest something outside retconned certain moments inside the film including AvP?  :P
That's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is that the movie implies something while Shane says something else, and like with any piece of media, the movie has to be criticized with what it offers. Just like we judge a book based on what is in the book instead of what the author says about the book. Information like this only matters when presented within the franchise, not outside it.

With that said, AvP is being ignored by both Stalking Shadows and the tapes in PHG, while yes, the canon of the game can be questionable as we have already dead individuals Preds in 2025 and even 4 Dutches in one match, the tapes in question are canon and they record OWLF findings, and both book and game ignore the events in 2004. If we are to believe they are in the same Universe, isn't it weird that the nuking of a town would go unnoticed by the OWLF? What about the artifacts from AvP, why are the tapes not covering them too? Unless the AvP easter eggs in The Predator are meant to be Stargazer findings from before they took over (Which tbf, could be really cool), their canon status is questionable.

It's worth noting how the description for Stalking Shadows says it's meant to link the continuity, from Predator 2 to Hunting Grounds, but it doesn't make any reference to AvP, which again, if they were canon, for sure Stalking Shadows or the tapes would mention the military nuking a town because of an otherworldly infestation, it was something within the OWLF's area afterall.

Your original position was this "AvP is not canon, never was and hopefully never will be".

Now you've morphed into AvP was Predator canon, but PHG not mentioning AvP in either Peter Keyes OWLF Recordings or Dutch's tapes means it was retconned, all while Scar and the Shuriken has been found in the datamines? Where does your position go once these have been released?

If you need an explanation, OWLF Peter Keyes and Dutch may not been aware of what went down with the nuke and subsequent military and Yutani cover up. Nor Weyland's activities or how Stargazer obtained a spear and when. But the movies set the canon playground. The EU just simply plays within and around it depending on what licenses (Predator, AvP or both) the licensee has. Cheers! :)
My original comment was a bit fallacious yes, AvP was canon during The Predator and is now being ignored by other confirmed canon media
Scar could be considered very much like City Hunter, he is there as non-canon DLC, City Hunter didn't come back from the dead did he? And the Shuriken was in The Predator too
If the military were to cover it up, wouldn't the OWLF still been made aware of it? Rn not only does the book and game ignore it, but including AvP in the current Predator lore only opens up more holes that would need to be fixed by even more stuff



Quote from: Kradan on Aug 06, 2020, 09:11:01 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 07:28:41 PM
I actually like Stargazer now!!

Then what - you gonna tell me you don't mind Crabators? Sheesh
God I hate the AvP pred's faces so much
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Aug 07, 2020, 12:56:22 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 06, 2020, 07:27:16 PM
Oh boy here we go again with the Canon...

As I have foreseen.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Aug 07, 2020, 02:07:04 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 06, 2020, 07:27:16 PM
Oh boy here we go again with the Canon...

To be fair, stories/series/franchise that have no core lore to anchor itself will soon loose at sea, its identity gone and become in-name-only brands. It can be anything but also nothing at all. Granted there are some like Godzilla, who can be a hero, anti-hero, anti-villein, and pure villein cuz it works with how Godzilla evolved over the years. An allegory for nuclear weapons and/or a monster that protects his territory.

Aliens and Predator can't work like that due to their brutal and bloody nature. You can bend the rules a bit for making a Predator in a more heroic light due to the fact they are brutal but also honorable sapient  race. Something similar was done when there was a Pred that killed Nazis but freed a child hostage. He didn't need to do that as the tied up human child has nothing to do with him, but he did it anyway. Seems like Preds do have a sense of altruism, interesting!  Can't do that with an Alien, a dangerous parasitic organism that kills anything and reproduce in a horrific manner which is an allegory for rape, that's not their nature.

But this is the data mine thread so maybe we should just quit while we're ahead.   
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 07, 2020, 06:35:19 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 06, 2020, 04:34:27 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Aug 06, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
I'm still not accepting of Yautja as a canonical aspect never mind a shared AVP universe.

You will accept it!!

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The more I see it the more I can tolerate it, and it fills my thoughts and I'm at the point now where it doesn't bother me
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Aug 07, 2020, 01:06:59 PM
So are xenomorphs going to be in this game or not? ???
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 07, 2020, 01:34:56 PM
No-one knows either way at the minute. But I doubt it.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 07, 2020, 01:54:43 PM
If they were I would wager it would just be an Easter egg. Maybe like they did in Friday the 13th there would be a virtual cabin style thing with a xeno
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Stitch on Aug 07, 2020, 10:32:57 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Aug 07, 2020, 01:06:59 PM
So are xenomorphs going to be in this game or not? ???
I hope not
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Galactus123 on Aug 07, 2020, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Aug 07, 2020, 01:06:59 PM
So are xenomorphs going to be in this game or not? ???
I hope not. This should stay as a Predator game.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 01:10:02 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Aug 07, 2020, 01:06:59 PM
So are xenomorphs going to be in this game or not? ???

I hope not. This should stay as a Predator game. Build the Predator lore.



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Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Aug 08, 2020, 07:17:13 PM
Predator Hunting Grounds should stay as Predator.

I know people such as myself crave a good AVP game, as the last one was......mediocre. Why can't devs nail down a great AVP game? AVP 2010 had so much potential. Rebellion couldn't even nail it down and they made the first great AVP game that we all come to know and love.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Aug 08, 2020, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 08, 2020, 07:17:13 PM
Predator Hunting Grounds should stay as Predator.

I know people such as myself crave a good AVP game, as the last one was......mediocre. Why can't devs nail down a great AVP game? AVP 2010 had so much potential. Rebellion couldn't even nail it down and they made the first great AVP game that we all come to know and love.
Imagine an AVP game like DOOM 2016, fast paced gory combat with cool finishers that don't take 15 seconds
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 08, 2020, 09:37:04 PM
but the new AVP would have to at least outbeat Creative Assembly's Alien Isolation in terms of realism....otherwise it would be like  seeing the AVP game from 2010.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Aug 09, 2020, 02:04:04 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 08, 2020, 09:37:04 PM
but the new AVP would have to at least outbeat Creative Assembly's Alien Isolation in terms of realism....otherwise it would be like  seeing the AVP game from 2010.

In realism, gameplay, and story! Like have it take place in a space station or full on colony city or some kind of alien planet like Avatar. Something new and refreshing. Have the human character be a scrappy survivor using gear from a wiped out colonial marine rescue to save his/her fellow survivors and escape the planet, play as a Predator elder on a mission to stop some invading super predators interfering with a Engineer ship, an ancient alien awakened from slumber to wipe out all intruders. 

Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Aug 27, 2020, 09:30:31 PM
Datamined by good old Blu on Discord, these are his findings

Dutch
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748621636814635126/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)
The new weapons
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748625819957723156/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601568857894813707/748651866480443552/SPOILER_unknown.png)

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748650405935710269/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748633634482815136/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748632352262979735/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)
New cosmetics
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748627997589766304/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748628526936358963/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748634675924434974/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)
New skins for Elder, Classic and City hunter
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748634875195555913/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=364&height=680)


The new Predator classes and their Plasma Casters have been unmodified, the name of the new map is Excavation

Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 27, 2020, 10:45:04 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 27, 2020, 09:30:31 PM
Datamined by good old Blu on Discord, these are his findings

Dutch
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748621636814635126/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)
The new weapons
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748625819957723156/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601568857894813707/748651866480443552/SPOILER_unknown.png)

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748650405935710269/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748633634482815136/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748632352262979735/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)
New cosmetics
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748627997589766304/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748628526936358963/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748634675924434974/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=1211&height=681)
New skins for Elder, Classic and City hunter
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/601568857894813707/748634875195555913/SPOILER_unknown.png?width=364&height=680


The new Predator classes and their Plasma Casters have been unmodified, the name of the new map is Excavation

Thanks for sharing PAS!!!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Aug 27, 2020, 10:58:20 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 27, 2020, 10:45:04 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 27, 2020, 09:30:31 PM
Datamined by good old Blu on Discord, these are his findings

The new Predator classes and their Plasma Casters have been unmodified, the name of the new map is Excavation

Thanks for sharing PAS!!!
Np, unfortunately, Blu couldn't port the new masks into the game, but seens like they are brand new masks and not the DLC ones


2 new modes in the files: Clash, max of 8 players ; Gauntlet, max of 15 players.
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Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Rabbit2100 on Aug 28, 2020, 03:54:34 PM
Looks like we'll be getting some new Predator masks as well. Possibly in the 2.0? Really apprecaite what Illfonix has done with mask 11, definitely feels inspired by the Elite Predator artwork for Soldiers Inc.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Aug 28, 2020, 04:00:23 PM
Quote from: Rabbit2100 on Aug 28, 2020, 03:54:34 PM
Looks like we'll be getting some new Predator masks as well. Possibly in the 2.0? Really apprecaite what Illfonix has done with mask 11, definitely feels inspired by the Elite Predator artwork for Soldiers Inc.
These are already in the game, just added alongside the new weapons!
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Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 28, 2020, 07:18:01 PM
Still no city hunter combistick  ???
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Aug 28, 2020, 08:06:25 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 28, 2020, 07:18:01 PM
Still no city hunter combistick  ???
hm? it's in the game and I've been using it for a while now
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 28, 2020, 09:12:03 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 28, 2020, 08:06:25 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 28, 2020, 07:18:01 PM
Still no city hunter combistick  ???
hm? it's in the game and I've been using it for a while now

It says "unlocks at level 100" I'm 150 and it's locked
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 31, 2020, 08:52:17 PM
This was in the forums.  The new mode may be a Gauntlet 15 player battle. One of the players listed in the private match also discovered the Alpha Predator, so we'll see.

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Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Sep 01, 2020, 02:32:32 AM
15 player battle? What like several fire team members and Predators?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 01, 2020, 11:51:17 AM
Yeah, it seems pretty crazy at face-value. :)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Sep 02, 2020, 02:55:28 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 01, 2020, 11:51:17 AM
Yeah, it seems pretty crazy at face-value. :)

I imagine that would be utter chaos. A good Predator player can take out a whole fire time team. Let alone 2 or 3 more. I see that being a balancing problem.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Tichinde on Sep 02, 2020, 04:23:24 AM
sounds awesome. I would love to play with my buddy and maybe one of you guys and coordinate strategies together to take down FTs. imo, teamwork would be a must, since like 8 guys would basically oneshot any lone predator.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Sep 02, 2020, 05:26:02 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Sep 02, 2020, 02:55:28 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 01, 2020, 11:51:17 AM
Yeah, it seems pretty crazy at face-value. :)

I imagine that would be utter chaos. A good Predator player can take out a whole fire time team. Let alone 2 or 3 more. I see that being a balancing problem.

With this recent patch, I think it will give Preds a better fighting chance now. I just seen the new mercenary gun with Yautja Bane take down a hunter class Pred in just 30 shots



And yes it was standing there but it shows that damage output can melt a Pred super easily. Even a loosely teamed Fireteam can heavily send a Pred into Second Wind.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 02, 2020, 01:36:49 PM
Thanks for sharing Turok. While I'm not a big fan of the Dutch 87 class, I did love using that weapon last night!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Sep 30, 2020, 10:28:52 PM
It's already been posted on the Illfonic forums as well as the sub-reddit but we have new masks incoming. To me they look like things we've seen before but in the Hunting Grounds art style. The first one reminds me of Scar's concept art from AVP. The second looks to me like a modern version of Boar as well as the third may have taken influence from what I think is the Homeworld Predator. I like the first one TBH since I do like the Predator having some of it's physical features shown on the mask kind of like Gort.

(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/b/b524ea7812de63db76c6a340e9e0385cfa14d89f.jpeg)

(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/0ad38f0b9785d957b257b42fc2554fddede723fa.jpeg)

(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/4f12c7cb19d7161837ab2976d01cf90f91e69508.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Sep 30, 2020, 11:28:10 PM
New backpack gear:

(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/64b46b6547e94038df0b81b5269f051b82948971.jpeg)

New FT Member:

(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/0bea82cc3bd74e77547b46488a23d87168c46b9e.jpeg)

UPDATE

New class is OWLF Operative:

(https://i.redd.it/rqrhefua8pq51.jpg)

Notice the melee weapon?

(https://external-preview.redd.it/UZYsaqeVL9znDxcfBA9sD23bAg_S1GlvUb7GMUSMoV8.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f445220a40d9261f4b41d71f22de843ec26b825a)

Finished versions of these masks look a bit better.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 02, 2020, 09:41:09 PM
I love the Thermal Suit. It should be interesting how they balance this. I wonder if the OWLF Operative will be paid DLC.

But dammit if that Smart Disc wasn't supposed to be Mike Harrigan's weapon... but that great ship seems sailed. :(
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Santoslive19 on Oct 03, 2020, 03:59:16 AM
I hope,  free update! Probably by oct 16
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Oct 03, 2020, 04:43:11 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 02, 2020, 09:41:09 PM
I love the Thermal Suit. It should be interesting how they balance this. I wonder if the OWLF Operative will be paid DLC.

But dammit if that Smart Disc wasn't supposed to be Mike Harrigan's weapon... but that great ship seems sailed. :(

Who's to say? Maybe we can have Mike the exclusive ability of throwing it? Not to mention the menu is notorious for having weapon/item icons in sections that don't belong and this could be a glitch that they could be fixing up. Yeah, one thing for sure, I want Mike Harrigan in this game now too.

And I dig the new Vapor mask a whole lot, reminds me of a high tech version of Ancient's mask from AVP, especially with that trinket on the mask. 
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Oct 03, 2020, 10:16:11 AM
Interesting that the OWLF operative is going to be an actual class. Any time his name cropped up in datamines before I always just assumed it was the file name for the guy who appears in the chopper to collect the Predator body at the end of some missions.

The idea and the sui are cool, but I do wonder how they're going to balance him if he's basically always going to be the equivalent of being mudded. A full team of four of those guys would make the Predator's thermal vision virtually useless unless they had some sort of downside to compensate.

And looking at it again, I quite like that second mask. The first one is really similar to one of the new ones we just got, with the mandibles. Not a big fan of the third one though, but I guess at least it's different. And I assume the new backpack is just going to be a cosmetic thing too.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Oct 03, 2020, 03:00:15 PM
The OWLF class looks like it'll have very low health meaning that while it'll move fast and carry a lot of gear it's going to be very weak. Assuming thermal suit means it'll look as if it's constantly mudded or even like that one perk that makes you appear a bit colder then it probably should still ping on the isolation scan.

A team of these guys are going to have to be vigilant to avoid Predator since at range I'd imagine they'd get picked off pretty easy.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 06, 2020, 01:12:03 AM
Looks cool but they need to watch out for the balancing, the fireteam is already strong enough.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Oct 07, 2020, 06:42:23 AM
Updated Shuriken. Likely will be a weapon released with the Scar Predator DLC.

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Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 07, 2020, 12:10:11 PM
The Smart Disc laughs at your Shuriken! It laughs from its mountain!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: molasar on Oct 07, 2020, 02:23:56 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 07, 2020, 12:10:11 PM
The Smart Disc laughs at your Shuriken! It laughs from its mountain!

For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts. This you can trust.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGsKH8cW4AEY8UD.jpg)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Oct 07, 2020, 10:18:10 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 07, 2020, 12:10:11 PM
The Smart Disc laughs at your Shuriken! It laughs from its mountain!

I'll take Shuriken over frigging frisbee any day
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Oct 08, 2020, 12:53:32 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 07, 2020, 10:18:10 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 07, 2020, 12:10:11 PM
The Smart Disc laughs at your Shuriken! It laughs from its mountain!

I'll take Shuriken over frigging frisbee any day

Brother, join me.

(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/546384678275410542/C8F8C43FD870C601153927F819BCCF7E2605A1F8/)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 08, 2020, 07:38:08 AM
I'm just not sure how functionally different it could be. Faster rate of fire and faster fly rate? That said, I love 'em both!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Oct 08, 2020, 12:35:01 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 08, 2020, 12:53:32 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 07, 2020, 10:18:10 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 07, 2020, 12:10:11 PM
The Smart Disc laughs at your Shuriken! It laughs from its mountain!

I'll take Shuriken over frigging frisbee any day

Brother, join me.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/546384678275410542/C8F8C43FD870C601153927F819BCCF7E2605A1F8/

OK
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 08, 2020, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: molasar on Oct 07, 2020, 02:23:56 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 07, 2020, 12:10:11 PM
The Smart Disc laughs at your Shuriken! It laughs from its mountain!

For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts. This you can trust.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGsKH8cW4AEY8UD.jpg)

Bravo...

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/57/fa/88/57fa883dead8c7363abf4cb315b587d8.gif)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 08, 2020, 12:35:54 PM
I still haven't learned how to use the disk properly, maybe the shuriken will be easier.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 08, 2020, 12:38:00 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 08, 2020, 12:35:54 PM
I still haven't learned how to use the disk properly, maybe the shuriken will be easier.

Practice with it Samgains. It's so worth it, especially now that they've sped it up! :o
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 08, 2020, 01:23:36 PM
That does seems like the weapon it takes the most skill to master, I will get there. :D
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Oct 08, 2020, 04:22:47 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 08, 2020, 07:38:08 AM
I'm just not sure how functionally different it could be. Faster rate of fire and faster fly rate? That said, I love 'em both!

Maybe it'll be ammo based instead of energy based?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Oct 27, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
Alright fellas, this is not a drill, we have both snow and a new map in the files.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770674965321613342/SPOILER_unknown.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770674483916832798/unknown.png?width=1341&height=677)


Even more new stuff, Lone Wolf, the mode used for the Tutorial, got FOURTEEN new scenarios. We might be getting single player soon!
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770681313799569438/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)


New masks as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/sXbb4U7.png)


And last but not least, the new class
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770684439436853279/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 27, 2020, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Oct 27, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
Alright fellas, this is not a drill, we have both snow and a new map in the files.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770674965321613342/SPOILER_unknown.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770674483916832798/unknown.png?width=1341&height=677)


Even more new stuff, Lone Wolf, the mode used for the Tutorial, got FOURTEEN new scenarios. We might be getting single player soon!
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770681313799569438/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)


New masks as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/sXbb4U7.png)


And last but not least, the new class
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770684439436853279/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)

Nice post Spinelli!

(https://media.tenor.com/images/efa21fa9140db3dd78df6a8983bae693/tenor.gif)

More than that really welcomed new map that has something other than lush green that sadly will never randomly allow me to play (yes I'm still bitter over Excavation), what really gets me stoked is that single player campaign. Bring it on baby!  I need a campaign where you can play as a soldier or a Predator.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Oct 27, 2020, 06:42:09 PM
Am I nuts or do those masks have blue tri-lasers?! That'd definitely shake things up for FT.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Oct 27, 2020, 08:02:43 PM
Would love to imagine the new map will be here any time soon, but the image for that other map was datamined months ago and there's still no sign of that one in the game yet. And given how long it took to get excavation in here it might not be until well into next year that we actually get to play it.

But at least it looks like it could be cool!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 27, 2020, 09:50:51 PM
Honestly I think a major map dump is really needed. Like 3 maps at one go.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: acrediblesource on Oct 27, 2020, 10:04:37 PM
x,y,z lines......they are RGB in most 3d applications lmfao!.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Oct 28, 2020, 12:05:05 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Oct 27, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
Alright fellas, this is not a drill, we have both snow and a new map in the files.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770674965321613342/SPOILER_unknown.png)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770674483916832798/unknown.png?width=1341&height=677)


Even more new stuff, Lone Wolf, the mode used for the Tutorial, got FOURTEEN new scenarios. We might be getting single player soon!
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770681313799569438/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)


New masks as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/sXbb4U7.png)


And last but not least, the new class
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770684439436853279/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)

* probability of single player mode increasing *

(https://external-preview.redd.it/VckSa1cp7xln9X016hFcNe_0TQUQOgpCv1Bu3W1NiV8.png?auto=webp&s=41375fa7b0e3699f528b82bc91351272b0565835)

Please please please PLEASE!!!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Oct 28, 2020, 02:51:26 AM
Honestly I prefer how the OWLF Operative class looked in the previous datamine.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Oct 29, 2020, 12:10:22 AM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/wDyuxHWSd5wzXcy4C9n66JwgKFQKt3hhqygQd7LiHwI.jpg?auto=webp&s=a040fab326ccda200d5d3eced2a575d6e6e37571)

Better look at the new Predator masks.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 29, 2020, 08:35:34 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 28, 2020, 02:51:26 AM
Honestly I prefer how the OWLF Operative class looked in the previous datamine.

It looks like it's just that visor that's different? Maybe that's optional?

Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 29, 2020, 12:10:22 AM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/wDyuxHWSd5wzXcy4C9n66JwgKFQKt3hhqygQd7LiHwI.jpg?auto=webp&s=a040fab326ccda200d5d3eced2a575d6e6e37571)

Better look at the new Predator masks.

Digging the top-right, otherwise not massively keen on the rest of them.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Oct 29, 2020, 12:55:33 PM
They should really add new armor sets for the Predators to go along with the new masks.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Oct 29, 2020, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 29, 2020, 12:55:33 PM
They should really add new armor sets for the Predators to go along with the new masks.

^ This
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 29, 2020, 03:56:27 PM
Would love that!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Oct 29, 2020, 08:10:16 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 29, 2020, 08:35:34 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 28, 2020, 02:51:26 AM
Honestly I prefer how the OWLF Operative class looked in the previous datamine.

It looks like it's just that visor that's different? Maybe that's optional?

Quote from: RidgeTop on Oct 29, 2020, 12:10:22 AM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/wDyuxHWSd5wzXcy4C9n66JwgKFQKt3hhqygQd7LiHwI.jpg?auto=webp&s=a040fab326ccda200d5d3eced2a575d6e6e37571)

Better look at the new Predator masks.

Digging the top-right, otherwise not massively keen on the rest of them.

I like wrinkly golden one
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Oct 30, 2020, 01:46:31 AM
So what exactly does it mean that the Lone Wolf mode has 14 new scenarios? What are the scenarios supposed to be, missions?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2020, 12:33:43 PM
That's the theory.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 12:50:18 PM
Based on this image alone...

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770681313799569438/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)

...it would seem there are 14 different Lone Woof scenarios only on the Overgrow map, that perhaps you're dropped in the same way as every other mission via the chopper to accomplish. They might even be randomly generated like the fireteam missions.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Oct 30, 2020, 12:56:58 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 12:50:18 PM
Based on this image alone...

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/770681313799569438/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677)

...it would seem there are 14 different Lone Woof scenarios only on the Overgrow map, that perhaps you're dropped in the same way as every other mission via the chopper to accomplish. They might even be randomly generated like the fireteam missions.

So this is looking like a Fire Team single player campaign, and not Predator?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 01:00:53 PM
With scenarios like "datapull" and "powerhouseinvestigation", it seems like single player human Fireteam-like missions to me.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Oct 30, 2020, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 01:00:53 PM
With scenarios like "datapull" and "powerhouseinvestigation", it seems like single player human Fireteam-like missions to me.

Well that would be unfortunate. Surely though if they intend to give the Fireteam single player missions, the Predator would receive due process no?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 30, 2020, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 01:00:53 PM
With scenarios like "datapull" and "powerhouseinvestigation", it seems like single player human Fireteam-like missions to me.

Well that would be unfortunate. Surely though if they intend to give the Fireteam single player missions, the Predator would receive due process no?

One would hope!  Just give us one at least.  Up the AI damage, automatically have the alarms pulled and the Predator mission is to retrieve tech from every hotspot! :)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 01:08:53 PM
Fireteam single player missions? Are they crazy? In all these months I have never seen anyone asking for this shit. Besides doing a private match alone is pretty much that already, you vs AI and the mission. Did they forgot this is a Predator game ?

Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 01:10:57 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 01:08:53 PM
Did they forgot this is a Predator game ?

Fireteam: Hunting Grounds?  ;)

This is just me speculating from the datamine. I assume they are working on a Predator AI to appear in said missions, if that helps!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 01:10:57 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 01:08:53 PM
Did they forgot this is a Predator game ?

Fireteam: Hunting Grounds?  ;)


I'm calling it Fireteam: Crashing Grounds since now I can make players crash just by parrying them, as if the knife wasn't op enough before.



Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Oct 30, 2020, 01:29:35 PM
Geez, feels good being Alien fan  ;D
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 01:34:13 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 30, 2020, 01:29:35 PM
Geez, feels good being Alien fan  ;D

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcShmFSBpQrB3wUscKG4IoPUc5lXfmrFNj-tzA&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 01:36:02 PM
:D

Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 01:10:57 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 01:08:53 PM
Did they forgot this is a Predator game ?

Fireteam: Hunting Grounds?  ;)


I'm calling it Fireteam: Crashing Grounds since now I can make players crash just by parrying them, as if the knife wasn't op enough before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yohl0Ikvsfw

Wow Samhain. Were these crashes in close proximity to each other? And is this PC or PS4?

I play this at least 3 times a week on the PS4, been playing as the Viking lately, and haven't experienced Predator crashing like this at all. Sorry it's going down like that for you, brother.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 02:01:08 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 01:36:02 PM
Wow Samhain. Were these crashes in close proximity to each other? And is this PC or PS4?

I play this at least 3 times a week on the PS4, been playing as the Viking lately, and haven't experienced Predator crashing like this at all. Sorry it's going down like that for you, brother.

Literally 3 matches in a row from wednesday. I'm on PC, but all other players on those matches were on PS4. My first 2 matches as Viking the game crashed too.

It was really easy to complete the daily challenge of securing 3 predator bodies like this lol

Also this happened:



Decided to finally learn how to use the disk but got the bugs of Auto wristblade attack, Auto Healing, Auto slamming then crashing in just 1 match. Things go downhill on 2:39.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Oct 30, 2020, 02:41:16 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 01:34:13 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Oct 30, 2020, 01:29:35 PM
Geez, feels good being Alien fan  ;D

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcShmFSBpQrB3wUscKG4IoPUc5lXfmrFNj-tzA&usqp=CAU

Eh, that was what ? 7 years ago ?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 02:44:03 PM
The scars still remain.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Oct 30, 2020, 05:34:43 PM
Well, we have a great cure for scars left by ACM:

Spoiler
(https://image.api.playstation.com/cdn/EP0177/CUSA00362_00/1lwdD7WmmXt4D9e1r3agI9ExeG7k4nZO.png)
[close]

Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Oct 30, 2020, 08:41:17 PM
Hunting Grounds lore wise could be like Isolation but quality of update wise it's almost like ACM, let's hope that once Covid dies over it all gets better, imo I wouldn't mind them taking more times with updates like they did for the fireteam mega update
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Oct 31, 2020, 12:01:36 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 01:08:53 PM
Fireteam single player missions? Are they crazy? In all these months I have never seen anyone asking for this shit. Besides doing a private match alone is pretty much that already, you vs AI and the mission. Did they forgot this is a Predator game ?

To be fair, datamining did not predict a few of the new features we had from this patch like the coming of Viking Predator. Everyone expected OWLF and the leaked masks, instead we got this interesting surprise with Fireteam specializations. At this point, this means that we can't depend on datamining completely for what will be ahead, rather good guesses of things to come but when and how is the real unknown.  Its very possible that we also have Predator lone wolf missions, but they are yet to be uncovered, worked on as we speak, or well hidden away where people have not yet looked.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Oct 31, 2020, 03:03:11 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 31, 2020, 12:01:36 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 01:08:53 PM
Fireteam single player missions? Are they crazy? In all these months I have never seen anyone asking for this shit. Besides doing a private match alone is pretty much that already, you vs AI and the mission. Did they forgot this is a Predator game ?

To be fair, datamining did not predict a few of the new features we had from this patch like the coming of Viking Predator. Everyone expected OWLF and the leaked masks, instead we got this interesting surprise with Fireteam specializations. At this point, this means that we can't depend on datamining completely for what will be ahead, rather good guesses of things to come but when and how is the real unknown.  Its very possible that we also have Predator lone wolf missions, but they are yet to be uncovered, worked on as we speak, or well hidden away where people have not yet looked.

Why is it that files from data mining are loaded into the game so far ahead of their eventual release?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Oct 31, 2020, 12:43:51 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 31, 2020, 03:03:11 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 31, 2020, 12:01:36 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 30, 2020, 01:08:53 PM
Fireteam single player missions? Are they crazy? In all these months I have never seen anyone asking for this shit. Besides doing a private match alone is pretty much that already, you vs AI and the mission. Did they forgot this is a Predator game ?

To be fair, datamining did not predict a few of the new features we had from this patch like the coming of Viking Predator. Everyone expected OWLF and the leaked masks, instead we got this interesting surprise with Fireteam specializations. At this point, this means that we can't depend on datamining completely for what will be ahead, rather good guesses of things to come but when and how is the real unknown.  Its very possible that we also have Predator lone wolf missions, but they are yet to be uncovered, worked on as we speak, or well hidden away where people have not yet looked.

Why is it that files from data mining are loaded into the game so far ahead of their eventual release?
So that future updates don't take as much space as they could take, and also for testing
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 07, 2020, 06:20:22 PM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/mRXkE5I_UN5OWLWQHBNjZs1KZODwAYxXgMLlaJ1o3dk.jpg?auto=webp&s=3433719fb90fae038b68f1b7d7ce8bde7f874557)

I'm still wondering about this datamined map from earlier this year. Maybe it's the one we're getting after 'Airstrip'? So perhaps 'Headquarters.' Looks bigger than all of them.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Dec 07, 2020, 08:28:33 PM
Yeah it's got to be headquarters, since that other more recent datamined map had a literal airstrip and plane visible on it.

Either way at this point we hopefully get some official news about it sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 07, 2020, 09:57:48 PM
They really need to start dropping new content soon.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 07, 2020, 10:05:21 PM
Hope that holiday update is a big one!

And sheesh, give us a new level 200 cap and maybe an exclusive Predator trophy only available by accumulating clash points.  It shouldn't be rocket science. Players need motivation. Give them goals to achieve!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 08, 2020, 08:41:47 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 07, 2020, 10:05:21 PM
Hope that holiday update is a big one!

And sheesh, give us a new level 200 cap and maybe an exclusive Predator trophy only available by accumulating clash points.  It shouldn't be rocket science. Players need motivation. Give them goals to achieve!

All this please.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 08, 2020, 09:39:33 PM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/l2KTJxh0thata-18wdC6wtVEV1iGm-0zlC_KscMbmY0.png?auto=webp&s=f5d4a1846505ad82006f56fe9317253967a82f70)

New Predator classes found in the files. One that caught my eye is 'Valkyrie.' Female Viking perhaps?

'Cleo' could also be in reference to Cleopatra. I guess they could be going Egyptian for a new class. Our group was chatting about that idea before while we were playing, maybe using the 'Nightstorm Predator' for inspiration.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 09, 2020, 10:21:18 AM
I have vague memories of an Ancient Egyptian aesthetic being mentioned regarding the Predators somewhere? Or am I imagining that? Is that not something already in the lore?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Xiggz456 on Dec 09, 2020, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 09, 2020, 10:21:18 AM
I have vague memories of an Ancient Egyptian aesthetic being mentioned regarding the Predators somewhere? Or am I imaging that? Is that not something already in the lore?

I think it may be the Predator royalty that net gunned Dutch and slaughtered his whole team.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 09, 2020, 12:04:49 PM
Correct!!!

Quote16 – Dutch's Run In: "March 10th, 2008. The team is pretty shaken. On our last mission, Dutch's crew was killed. We dispatched his team to a hunting ground near a small village, but the entire village was empty. Investigating the scene revealed a fresh human skull and spine, impaled and dangling on a Predator spear at the centre of the village. that's when all hell broke loose. The team could find no target, as, one by one, they were picked off.. Dutch got the survivors into cover and offered himself up as a challenge as he drew his own spear. Within seconds, he stood face to face with a very unique Predator. He described its armour as far more ornate, almost Egyptian in its regal design.

Physically, it was slimmer, yet far more deadly than any previously encountered Predator. Based on this description, I'm confident that what he encountered was the female of the species Our assumption has been that all known Predators have been male, though up until now it was mostly an informed guess. Dutch was ambushed, pinned to a wall by the female's net-launcher. And he observed the Predator walk toward him and then activate her shoulder cannon, which quickly shot every member of his team with astonishing precision. And as the razor-netting cut into his face, blood, apparently, ran into his eyes and Dutch says he only barely saw the Predator cloak and disappear into the jungle. Given the heavy casualties and Dutch's severe injuries, it's unlikely we'll be sending teams out for some time. I fear we've kicked the hornet's nest one this one and, well, now the queen is pissed."
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Dec 09, 2020, 02:44:43 PM
Cleo, Tiki and Valkyre, 3 new Predator characters, 2 of which are confirmed female, this will be interesting
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 09, 2020, 03:04:46 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 09, 2020, 12:04:49 PM
Correct!!!

Quote16 – Dutch's Run In: "March 10th, 2008. The team is pretty shaken. On our last mission, Dutch's crew was killed. We dispatched his team to a hunting ground near a small village, but the entire village was empty. Investigating the scene revealed a fresh human skull and spine, impaled and dangling on a Predator spear at the centre of the village. that's when all hell broke loose. The team could find no target, as, one by one, they were picked off.. Dutch got the survivors into cover and offered himself up as a challenge as he drew his own spear. Within seconds, he stood face to face with a very unique Predator. He described its armour as far more ornate, almost Egyptian in its regal design.

Physically, it was slimmer, yet far more deadly than any previously encountered Predator. Based on this description, I'm confident that what he encountered was the female of the species Our assumption has been that all known Predators have been male, though up until now it was mostly an informed guess. Dutch was ambushed, pinned to a wall by the female's net-launcher. And he observed the Predator walk toward him and then activate her shoulder cannon, which quickly shot every member of his team with astonishing precision. And as the razor-netting cut into his face, blood, apparently, ran into his eyes and Dutch says he only barely saw the Predator cloak and disappear into the jungle. Given the heavy casualties and Dutch's severe injuries, it's unlikely we'll be sending teams out for some time. I fear we've kicked the hornet's nest one this one and, well, now the queen is pissed."

The only one that bested Dutch!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 09, 2020, 05:53:54 PM
I wonder if Tiki will be reminiscent of the more primitive looking Preds of Kehua.

(https://comichub.blob.core.windows.net/high/7d37bc4c-3a85-489a-b090-8ff343118e58.jpg)

What I still want to know is... Where is Scar and Mr. Black!?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Dec 09, 2020, 07:19:38 PM
I'd love it if they included a Predator that looked like that. One of the reasons I like the Alpha so much is the idea of a "primitive" Predator with no actual tech (even though they've had to fudge that a bit in the game), so those guys or ones that looked like them would be a welcome addition.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 10, 2020, 08:35:26 AM
I'm surprised we haven't seen more classes directly taken from the comics yet. They have the license for it.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: bendinglight on Dec 10, 2020, 07:41:09 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 10, 2020, 08:35:26 AM
I'm surprised we haven't seen more classes directly taken from the comics yet. They have the license for it.

This! Would love to see the two from Bad Blood.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 12, 2020, 10:38:00 AM
New Plasmacaster animations for Scar and Mr. Black

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/kbdam5/new_shoulder_cannon_animations/
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Dec 12, 2020, 02:28:08 PM
Quote from: bendinglight on Dec 10, 2020, 07:41:09 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 10, 2020, 08:35:26 AM
I'm surprised we haven't seen more classes directly taken from the comics yet. They have the license for it.

This! Would love to see the two from Bad Blood.

I don't think we'd get the Enforcer from Bad Blood simply on the grounds that it's too close to Jungle Hunter. We could definitely get the helmet but the class wouldn't work unless they altered it given Illfonic's stance on not releasing Jungle Hunter again. I could see the helmet paired with the Bad Blood or as free DLC alongside it.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Dec 12, 2020, 08:23:37 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 12, 2020, 10:38:00 AM
New Plasmacaster animations for Scar and Mr. Black

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/kbdam5/new_shoulder_cannon_animations/

That's awesome to see they've got the spinning animation for Mr Black's plasmacaster. I was really hoping they'd have that but expected they wouldn't, so that'll be a nice little touch whenever he comes out.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 12, 2020, 10:59:09 PM
Here are some better quality vids of the animations:

https://i.imgur.com/NOaPLjY.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/AIXKKQV.mp4

I'm definitely digging the big robot arm on Scar's gun, and hopefully they include the appropriate sound effects!

https://youtu.be/LyoBu9DHCF8?t=61
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Dec 12, 2020, 11:05:35 PM
I assume that Mr. Black will be released after Isabella, so March then?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Dec 13, 2020, 12:24:47 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Dec 12, 2020, 11:05:35 PM
I assume that Mr. Black will be released after Isabella, so March then?

March sounds about right. Spring update at the earliest would be March. We know swept back dreadlocks leaked which could be the supers.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 13, 2020, 12:52:20 AM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Dec 13, 2020, 12:24:47 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Dec 12, 2020, 11:05:35 PM
I assume that Mr. Black will be released after Isabella, so March then?

March sounds about right. Spring update at the earliest would be March. We know swept back dreadlocks leaked which could be the supers.

They did? I don't remember seeing those.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Dec 13, 2020, 09:17:19 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 13, 2020, 12:52:20 AM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Dec 13, 2020, 12:24:47 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Dec 12, 2020, 11:05:35 PM
I assume that Mr. Black will be released after Isabella, so March then?

March sounds about right. Spring update at the earliest would be March. We know swept back dreadlocks leaked which could be the supers.

They did? I don't remember seeing those.

(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/96fbb1ac7a99fff9a842079b4f5732988ff03bae.png)

It was in the leak archive thread on the Illfonic forum. It could be another Predator's but it doesn't look like Viking's, Scar has a few dreads in front and the supers have them swept back. I'm assuming it's the supers. They're apparently called "long tail" and given we got the Falcon gadget coming I'm half wondering if it's not named for a specific Predator if somehow they'd release all three through the Berserker.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 13, 2020, 10:02:15 PM
That doesn't look quite like the Berserker Pred dreadlocks, I'm wondering if that will be on what was found in the files as "Cleo," the Egyptian looking female Pred that killed Dutch's team from the tapes? Or perhaps with "Tiki."
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 14, 2020, 01:55:05 AM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Dec 13, 2020, 12:24:47 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Dec 12, 2020, 11:05:35 PM
I assume that Mr. Black will be released after Isabella, so March then?

March sounds about right. Spring update at the earliest would be March. We know swept back dreadlocks leaked which could be the supers.

Damn that's too long to wait.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 14, 2020, 04:40:57 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Dec 13, 2020, 12:24:47 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Dec 12, 2020, 11:05:35 PM
I assume that Mr. Black will be released after Isabella, so March then?

March sounds about right. Spring update at the earliest would be March. We know swept back dreadlocks leaked which could be the supers.

I remember thinking Mr. Black would be out this past Summer...  :-\
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Dec 17, 2020, 07:48:22 AM
(https://i.redd.it/n17fagptpi561.jpg)

If the information is correct, it seems like we might get Isabelle tapes after all!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 17, 2020, 09:40:06 AM
I was expecting it. And I'm still expecting it. And I wanna see the official announcement!  ;D
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: TheBATMAN on Dec 17, 2020, 04:38:24 PM
This game seems so promising. I wonder how much more sales they'd get if there was a single player story campaign. Not all of us are online gamers.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 17, 2020, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 17, 2020, 07:48:22 AM
(https://i.redd.it/n17fagptpi561.jpg)

If the information is correct, it seems like we might get Isabelle tapes after all!

That was the hope! But what is it I'm missing in that screenshot as evidence?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Xiggz456 on Dec 17, 2020, 10:06:26 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 17, 2020, 04:38:24 PM
This game seems so promising. I wonder how much more sales they'd get if there was a single player story campaign. Not all of us are online gamers.

One day we hopefully will get the single player campaign. At least according to these data mines we should be seeing one. Super excited to see what they're bringing to the table with the Isabelle audio tapes!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Dec 18, 2020, 12:39:44 AM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Dec 17, 2020, 10:06:26 PM
Quote from: TheBATMAN on Dec 17, 2020, 04:38:24 PM
This game seems so promising. I wonder how much more sales they'd get if there was a single player story campaign. Not all of us are online gamers.

One day we hopefully will get the single player campaign. At least according to these data mines we should be seeing one. Super excited to see what they're bringing to the table with the Isabelle audio tapes!

The data mines are strongly hinting at a fire team single player campaign. No sign of single player Predator campaign yet. But I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Dec 18, 2020, 03:01:43 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 17, 2020, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 17, 2020, 07:48:22 AM
(https://i.redd.it/n17fagptpi561.jpg)

If the information is correct, it seems like we might get Isabelle tapes after all!

That was the hope! But what is it I'm missing in that screenshot as evidence?
If my guess is correct, as I'm waiting back for a response from the miners, its the dates of the files that was added in is very recent, with the name "boombox" was also tagged the OWLF and Dutch tapes. Combine that with the reveal of February's new character, its a strong indicator that it could be Isabelle's tapes. 
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 18, 2020, 04:09:47 AM
((Fingers crossed))
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Dec 28, 2020, 08:36:43 PM
A more recent update of the Headquarters map, which may have been renamed to "Peru":

(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/7ec9ef1fc887219f687ab51c4c679d913d663697.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 28, 2020, 08:50:16 PM
More ruins?  :-\
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2020, 09:29:02 AM
Looks on the deserty side too. Be interesting to see how that works.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2020, 01:56:40 PM
Hmm. Too much water for a desert I think.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 29, 2020, 02:53:40 PM
Just more beige scrubbery?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Dec 29, 2020, 02:59:29 PM
The Knights of Ni shall be pleased!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 29, 2020, 06:38:45 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 28, 2020, 08:50:16 PM
More ruins?  :-\

Don't forget another downed plane and chopper :p

Quote from: Kailem on Dec 28, 2020, 08:36:43 PM
A more recent update of the Headquarters map, which may have been renamed to "Peru":

https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/7ec9ef1fc887219f687ab51c4c679d913d663697.jpeg

For comparison with the map we saw already, looks mostly the same but a little different. The body of water in the middle which I assume is another fishing village (really hope these asset reuses doesn't become a trend), looks bigger in the original leak.

Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 07, 2020, 06:20:22 PM
(https://external-preview.redd.it/mRXkE5I_UN5OWLWQHBNjZs1KZODwAYxXgMLlaJ1o3dk.jpg?auto=webp&s=3433719fb90fae038b68f1b7d7ce8bde7f874557)

I'm still wondering about this datamined map from earlier this year. Maybe it's the one we're getting after 'Airstrip'? So perhaps 'Headquarters.' Looks bigger than all of them.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 29, 2020, 06:51:08 PM
January needs to be the month for the update of all updates, we really need more maps. I like the skins they keep adding but the more important stuff that will help keep this game has taken too long.

I already lost hope in a new game mode with multiple predators vs more fireteam members so as those datemine maps come it would be nice.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2020, 12:53:16 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Dec 29, 2020, 06:38:45 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 28, 2020, 08:50:16 PM
More ruins?  :-\

Don't forget another downed plane and chopper :p

Weeeeeee!!

Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 29, 2020, 06:51:08 PM
January needs to be the month for the update of all updates, we really need more maps. I like the skins they keep adding but the more important stuff that will help keep this game has taken too long.

I already lost hope in a new game mode with multiple predators vs more fireteam members so as those datemine maps come it would be nice.

I'm not certain if Illfonic is capable of releasing the update of all updates, but if we're going there... BAM!!!! January gives us Isabelle with lore tapes, Mr. Black & The Falconer, a game preserve planet map, and Predators vs Super Predator mode.
WOOT!!!!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Dec 30, 2020, 03:54:36 AM
What also needs to be included in this upcoming patch is fixes to bugs and balancing.

.

and much more. 
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Dec 30, 2020, 05:41:04 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 30, 2020, 03:54:36 AM

  • Grimlock and 1911 pistols are hand canons against Predators but weak as hell against Stargazer (seriously what gives with that?)

That sounds familiar ...

(https://i.imgur.com/GP5DCrKl.jpg)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Dec 30, 2020, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2020, 12:53:16 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 29, 2020, 06:51:08 PM
January needs to be the month for the update of all updates, we really need more maps. I like the skins they keep adding but the more important stuff that will help keep this game has taken too long.

I already lost hope in a new game mode with multiple predators vs more fireteam members so as those datemine maps come it would be nice.

I'm not certain if Illfonic is capable of releasing the update of all updates, but if we're going there... BAM!!!! January gives us Isabelle with lore tapes, Mr. Black & The Falconer, a game preserve planet map, and Predators vs Super Predator mode.
WOOT!!!!

Alas January is going to be the month of no updates since Illfonic's latest DLC roadmap showed that we won't be getting a new content drop until Isabelle in February. And just like with Dutch, given that it looks like new lore tapes have already been datamined I'm guessing those will be the free DLC for that month rather than any new maps or modes or anything like that.

Sadly I feel like it's going to be a minimum of three more months before there's even a chance of us getting another new map, and those are what the game needs more than anything as far as new content goes.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2020, 03:03:36 PM
Ah. Damn. You're right. It said February didn't it. Which means February 28th, or the 29th if it's leap year.  :P
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2020, 03:24:05 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Dec 30, 2020, 02:33:28 PM
Sadly I feel like it's going to be a minimum of three more months before there's even a chance of us getting another new map, and those are what the game needs more than anything as far as new content goes.

At the risk of being a broken record, agreed.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 30, 2020, 04:10:02 PM
Let's hope the game isn't dead by then.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 30, 2020, 09:46:18 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 30, 2020, 04:10:02 PM
Let's hope the game isn't dead by then.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/8LBDXIEHsVUiI/200.gif)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Dec 31, 2020, 12:17:48 AM
If the balance and glitches aren't addressed, it will be. Many people are mostly upset with the current balance and amount of glitches that stop gameplay from being enjoyable. I mean if something basic like the Predator Bow not being usable at all is something damming for the game, as thats just one weapon less to use for players.

Problem is with all of this is that Illfonic is notorious of not taking community feedback. No one knows if they don't want to listen, they don't have a system in place to have better communications, or even outright not know about these issues. I recall one of the devs even saying that they never played as Predator in matches so they possibly have no idea how bad the balance is right now.  This needs to be addressed before adding more things to be honest.

That and I wish players weren't so toxic, the Illfonic forums is a meme farm for toxicity. I get the frustration behind the lack of communication and bug fixing but it also turns off devs who even try to connect back with players.

Quote from: Kradan on Dec 30, 2020, 05:41:04 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 30, 2020, 03:54:36 AM

  • Grimlock and 1911 pistols are hand canons against Predators but weak as hell against Stargazer (seriously what gives with that?)

That sounds familiar ...

(https://i.imgur.com/GP5DCrKl.jpg)

Oh god please no, I had enough of those damm androids......
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Dec 31, 2020, 02:32:41 AM
Yeah all of that.

Buffing the Predator health in the last update was not enough, the fireteam can still melt the Predator hp away fast. If the skill level of the fireteam and the Predator are around the same the Predator is gonna lose. Sure its easy for an experienced Predator to kill the whole fireteam in 2 minutes if they are new players but if they at least know how to play a fps the Predator can get to second wind fast.

Hell I had many occassions where I'm busy with 1 guy doing the mission and the other 2 premades end up killing the Predator on their own before I even saw the creature. Sometimes they get lucky and trap the Predator behind a door and knife it to death or they just snipe it so hard the Predator has no idea of whats happening to its hp, they know the tricks.

Heck I hunted and sniped Predators into second wind on my own, OWLF Operative + Ice cold + Mud > Predator cloak. Sure they were probably new players but still if you got a 1x4 assymetrical multiplayer and a 1x1 is possible there is something wrong there. The Predator can barely stealth on PC premades, its too easy to listen and see where the Predator is at or coming from, while you can snipe a Predator using stealth, so yeah even at stealth the fireteam can be better.

On the bugs, you got arrows and sniper shots going through the target or hitting objects instead what it should still happens, there are some rare occasions where lag can make you as Predator stand still for the fireteam when in your screen you are moving, your hp melts away, combistick teleporting after a throw, once in a while I still get the not being able to run as Predator bug.

The devs don't play as Predator, on the forums people said 5 devs did a livestream match and the guy had no idea at all how to he should play as Predator, the devs playing as fireteam pretty much tried their best to not kill the Predator right away. They cater to new casual players, so the fireteam potatos, meaning the only way to help those guys that wander alone having no idea where to go in the match is to give the fireteam enough damage to push a Predator back without having to work together.

And don't even get me started on the Field Medic OP spec, that crap is beyond broken.

Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Dec 31, 2020, 11:32:41 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 31, 2020, 12:17:48 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 30, 2020, 05:41:04 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 30, 2020, 03:54:36 AM

  • Grimlock and 1911 pistols are hand canons against Predators but weak as hell against Stargazer (seriously what gives with that?)

That sounds familiar ...

(https://i.imgur.com/GP5DCrKl.jpg)

Oh god please no, I had enough of those damm androids......

Dammit, wrong picture  :D I've meant these jerks from ACM

(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/7/7f/SidePMCM39ACMSI.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/893?cb=20130919031313)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Dec 31, 2020, 08:48:58 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 31, 2020, 11:32:41 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 31, 2020, 12:17:48 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 30, 2020, 05:41:04 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 30, 2020, 03:54:36 AM

  • Grimlock and 1911 pistols are hand canons against Predators but weak as hell against Stargazer (seriously what gives with that?)

That sounds familiar ...

(https://i.imgur.com/GP5DCrKl.jpg)

Oh god please no, I had enough of those damm androids......

Dammit, wrong picture  :D I've meant these jerks from ACM

(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/7/7f/SidePMCM39ACMSI.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/893?cb=20130919031313)

It doesn't show up on my end but my guess is that its the WY mercenaries right? God who said that it would be fun to have half the game all about them?

Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 31, 2020, 02:32:41 AM
Yeah all of that.

Buffing the Predator health in the last update was not enough, the fireteam can still melt the Predator hp away fast. If the skill level of the fireteam and the Predator are around the same the Predator is gonna lose. Sure its easy for an experienced Predator to kill the whole fireteam in 2 minutes if they are new players but if they at least know how to play a fps the Predator can get to second wind fast.

Hell I had many occassions where I'm busy with 1 guy doing the mission and the other 2 premades end up killing the Predator on their own before I even saw the creature. Sometimes they get lucky and trap the Predator behind a door and knife it to death or they just snipe it so hard the Predator has no idea of whats happening to its hp, they know the tricks.

A tackle to break blocking Fireteam and dash option to escape explosions would be great for Predator players to escape such traps. It helps solidify that these are agile and durable beings that you cannot contain that easily. Of course some kind of cool down to omit abuse but it would be very helpful.

A dash option for Fireteam would also be fair, plasma spaming and bow hoppers can be a bitch sometimes. Also would have a cooldown limit for fairness too.

Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 31, 2020, 02:32:41 AM
Heck I hunted and sniped Predators into second wind on my own, OWLF Operative + Ice cold + Mud > Predator cloak. Sure they were probably new players but still if you got a 1x4 assymetrical multiplayer and a 1x1 is possible there is something wrong there. The Predator can barely stealth on PC premades, its too easy to listen and see where the Predator is at or coming from, while you can snipe a Predator using stealth, so yeah even at stealth the fireteam can be better.

On the bugs, you got arrows and sniper shots going through the target or hitting objects instead what it should still happens, there are some rare occasions where lag can make you as Predator stand still for the fireteam when in your screen you are moving, your hp melts away, combistick teleporting after a throw, once in a while I still get the not being able to run as Predator bug.

I'm sort of mixed on that. I dealt with premades and its a 50/50 on my end, which is the real fun for me begins since its always potatoes or decent players.  For Predator stealth, it would be helpful to have longer pauses of clicking during cloaking. Helps make things harder to pin down. I even would say master getting in without cloaking, it never fails to surprise people with a quiet attack. I can get two charged plasma bolts in before they can turn towards my direction. A few swipes in and I leave cloaked.

The bugs though really needs a fix, it sucks super hard when Pred players can't even get a hit in on crouching players due to it going through. As if the cards weren't stacked against them enough as it is.


Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 31, 2020, 02:32:41 AM
The devs don't play as Predator, on the forums people said 5 devs did a livestream match and the guy had no idea at all how to he should play as Predator, the devs playing as fireteam pretty much tried their best to not kill the Predator right away. They cater to new casual players, so the fireteam potatos, meaning the only way to help those guys that wander alone having no idea where to go in the match is to give the fireteam enough damage to push a Predator back without having to work together.

And don't even get me started on the Field Medic OP spec, that crap is beyond broken.

This is my greatest frustration. If they can't be bothered with it, why not take the player feed back and implement such changes? You literally have an army of free workers who will find the bugs for you in return of a better gaming experience. If that can't be done due to legal reasons, than hire them! People want this to be a good game and obviously Illfonic doesn't want a poor product so why not actually get on with the program and look into these bugs already.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Dec 31, 2020, 11:59:03 PM
Yep, I was talking about W-Y mercs
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Feb 14, 2021, 12:35:49 AM
Lone Wolf is coming...

Thanks to 'bendinglight' for the heads up in the main thread.

(https://i.imgur.com/XJhFwKP.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uPmx2h6.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Feb 14, 2021, 02:01:24 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 14, 2021, 12:35:49 AM
Lone Wolf is coming...

Thanks to 'bendinglight' for the heads up in the main thread.

(https://i.imgur.com/XJhFwKP.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uPmx2h6.jpeg)
Yep, Blu found em once again, and according to him, these scenarios only support Predator loadouts
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Feb 14, 2021, 02:53:43 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 14, 2021, 02:01:24 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 14, 2021, 12:35:49 AM
Lone Wolf is coming...

Thanks to 'bendinglight' for the heads up in the main thread.

(https://i.imgur.com/XJhFwKP.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uPmx2h6.jpeg)
Yep, Blu found em once again, and according to him, these scenarios only support Predator loadouts

I thought FT Lone Wolf missions were also spotter earlier?

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/770681313799569438/unknown.png)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Feb 14, 2021, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 14, 2021, 02:53:43 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 14, 2021, 02:01:24 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 14, 2021, 12:35:49 AM
Lone Wolf is coming...

Thanks to 'bendinglight' for the heads up in the main thread.

(https://i.imgur.com/XJhFwKP.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uPmx2h6.jpeg)
Yep, Blu found em once again, and according to him, these scenarios only support Predator loadouts

I thought FT Lone Wolf missions were also spotter earlier?

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/770681313799569438/unknown.png)
According to Blu, every LW scenario only has support for Character.Class.Predator
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Feb 15, 2021, 10:24:30 PM
Does this finally confirm singleplayer Predator missions?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Feb 16, 2021, 03:26:20 AM
Hope for the best, expect the worse.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Feb 16, 2021, 01:58:58 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 16, 2021, 03:26:20 AM
Hope for the best, expect the worse.

I took a quick glance at the Illfonic forums and someone said it could be some sort of time attack mission or something. I'm already not feeling that. :(
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 16, 2021, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 15, 2021, 10:24:30 PM
Does this finally confirm singleplayer Predator missions?

To me for this game, if it was datamined, it means that odds are... we won't get it.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Feb 16, 2021, 07:40:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9HBHVno--4&feature=emb_title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9HBHVno--4&feature=emb_title)

Looks like we've got our Lone Wolf intro!
Looks to be a series of Predator objectives and what is basically an extended tutorial of game mechanics. Not a bad idea.

No idea if this is only on Overgrowth but a poster on the Illfonic forums says Airstrip (new map) comes next month.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Feb 17, 2021, 01:19:57 AM
The source of everything is Blu on the Discord again, he is the only good leaker around (And only one you should trust.)
Anyway, imma provide yall with all his new findings

We are getting 2 new maps in the following 3 months, and Lone Wolf seems to be almost done.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/811278116697014333/unknown.png)
Update schedule in the files, maps will be center of the following updates, and now for Lone Wolf.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/811302869310636032/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/811302793524150342/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/811308410145603594/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/811308917837004800/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/811334147485597696/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/811343420404662322/unknown.png)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Feb 17, 2021, 02:42:00 AM
So....a single player Predator campaign afterall? They're talking my language now. But still a while off, June or July at best I guess. How many levels is it supposed to have?

God bless dataminers. They do God's work.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Feb 17, 2021, 02:52:44 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 17, 2021, 02:42:00 AM
So....a single player Predator campaign afterall? They're talking my language now. But still a while off, June or July at best I guess. How many levels is it supposed to have?

God bless dataminers. They do God's work.
These are 14 scenarios, but this mode that blu got working seems to have random missions
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 17, 2021, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 17, 2021, 02:42:00 AM
God bless dataminers. They do God's work.

:laugh:
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Feb 17, 2021, 04:34:12 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 17, 2021, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 17, 2021, 02:42:00 AM
God bless dataminers. They do God's work.

:laugh:

Well they are.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Feb 17, 2021, 05:51:31 PM
It looks far enough along that hopefully we might be seeing it sooner rather than later (though that still means next month at the very earliest).

I prefer to take my time as much as possible when playing Predator so the "time attack" aspect doesn't appeal to me too much, but I'm sure you can just say to hell with that and take as long as you like.

It looks like it's going to be a little more detailed than I was expecting too. Stargazer drones?! Actual new models created for this mode! That's more than I ever thought we'd get. And there look to be a fair few objectives too that could be fun to do in a more sneaky, less intense manner than you can usually get playing multiplayer.

And good to see that ship model back again too!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Feb 17, 2021, 07:45:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Ym0gwSlaM&feature=youtu.be

Oh boy here we goo
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Feb 17, 2021, 09:27:45 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 17, 2021, 07:45:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Ym0gwSlaM&feature=youtu.be

Oh boy here we goo

I didn't see any timer for the mission, so I'm not sure why it's being referred to as a time attack. Overall it looked cool. Pretty short however. But with 14 different scenarios it should add up to a decent amount of time. I wonder how much this mode will have in the long run. Will it have it's own trophies and unlockables? Will more content be made for it? I'm very intrigued.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Feb 17, 2021, 11:05:54 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 17, 2021, 09:27:45 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 17, 2021, 07:45:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Ym0gwSlaM&feature=youtu.be

Oh boy here we goo

I didn't see any timer for the mission, so I'm not sure why it's being referred to as a time attack. Overall it looked cool. Pretty short however. But with 14 different scenarios it should add up to a decent amount of time. I wonder how much this mode will have in the long run. Will it have it's own trophies and unlockables? Will more content be made for it? I'm very intrigued.
The only thing we do is that there is a test backwater map compatible with it, but it has no missions in it, it's possible we'll be getting more and more LW scenarios as the game goes on
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Feb 19, 2021, 06:56:09 PM
Another stuff that Blu found, the Predator have support for outifits like the FT(The lvl 100 unlocks for the base game classes)
And it's possible that we are getting these type of unlocks for the base game Preds on the next big patch (Free update 8), it's called of Master Armor in the files, more specifically, this:
/Game/DLC_Release/FU_08/Character/Predator/Armor/MI_P_MasterArmor_var19.MI_P_MasterArmor_var19
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: bendinglight on Feb 19, 2021, 07:00:55 PM
While that is great to have some offline Predator objectives, it has the probability to get boring pretty fast...unless I am being too picky? Don't get me wrong, it is great that there seems to be more content coming but it doesn't seem to be a full-fledged SP experience, imo.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Feb 19, 2021, 07:55:36 PM
Quote from: bendinglight on Feb 19, 2021, 07:00:55 PM
While that is great to have some offline Predator objectives, it has the probability to get boring pretty fast...unless I am being too picky? Don't get me wrong, it is great that there seems to be more content coming but it doesn't seem to be a full-fledged SP experience, imo.
it won't be, this is kinda of the opposite of what happens to most games, in most the SP is the main focus, here it's the contrary
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Feb 21, 2021, 01:01:56 AM
Via Blu on the HG Discord

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/812801737659777024/unknown.png)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Feb 21, 2021, 01:32:15 AM
Y'know, I see you guys talking about the SP but not about the fact we got a roadmap for 2 new maps lol
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Feb 21, 2021, 04:38:21 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Feb 21, 2021, 01:01:56 AM
Via Blu on the HG Discord

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/812801737659777024/unknown.png)

For self-defence.

For real though, that looks like it's probably just a placeholder, because that would be a weird-ass trophy if it really was one.

And huzzah, the ottoman dagger has been unlocked! My trophy collection is complete at last! So I mean hey, if they did want to add more trophies into the game, now would certainly be the time!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Feb 21, 2021, 02:28:32 PM
I wouldn't mind it if fireteam weapons could be trophies and it'd be an easy kind of trophy to add. The implication that past teams have tried and failed is a good way to intimidate the enemy. It also works in-universe since we know a few Predators are operating in the same jungle meaning it should be reasonable one of them picks up a modern pistol as a trophy. No more weirder than a Predator taking a flintlock or revolver or even a knife. It's like the Human skull, just an obvious and easy thing to add.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Feb 22, 2021, 02:14:30 PM
That's what I was thinking S.I.  It's not strange when you realize the Predators are collecting modern weapons of its time.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Apr 11, 2021, 02:49:31 PM
Isabelle's sniper rifle has allegedly been found:

(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/3X/0/9/09ccac0c0202372f10950631c20a1c346b8a7212.jpeg)(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/4/f4fbd25e5a9178787f1f42e574ee16321066dbab.jpeg)

Thread from the Ilfonic boards:

https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/isabelle-weapon-found-on-pak-files/20503

The scopes are different, but that could just be the result of this being datamined rather than officially revealed. I remember the OWLF operative didn't have his goggles when people found him early, so this might just be an unfinished/placeholder one.

Either way, fingers crossed we might actually get here this time!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Apr 11, 2021, 10:36:42 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 11, 2021, 02:49:31 PM
Isabelle's sniper rifle has allegedly been found:

(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/3X/0/9/09ccac0c0202372f10950631c20a1c346b8a7212.jpeg)(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/4/f4fbd25e5a9178787f1f42e574ee16321066dbab.jpeg)

Thread from the Ilfonic boards:

https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/isabelle-weapon-found-on-pak-files/20503

The scopes are different, but that could just be the result of this being datamined rather than officially revealed. I remember the OWLF operative didn't have his goggles when people found him early, so this might just be an unfinished/placeholder one.

Either way, fingers crossed we might actually get here this time!
extremely fake lol


https://www.stlfinder.com/model/blaser-r93-lrs2-free-3d-model-WEw4zxSr/1026018/
here is the png used
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Apr 11, 2021, 11:35:19 PM
Booo. BOOOO!!

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed, but boo!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Apr 12, 2021, 12:11:42 AM
Haha sorry for being a party pooper ;D
But yeah, I hope we actually do get her soon
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 12, 2021, 02:38:34 PM
(https://i2.wp.com/66.media.tumblr.com/564e100dbaea29a8579e68e97d670a47/tumblr_pvmgpc4rzW1qciixfo7_540.gif)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kradan on Apr 12, 2021, 05:27:22 PM
Go watch AVPR. It should cheer you up
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Apr 12, 2021, 09:09:57 PM
Anyway, here is a real datamine
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/831262780261793812/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Apr 13, 2021, 01:39:03 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 12, 2021, 09:09:57 PM
Anyway, here is a real datamine
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/831262780261793812/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676)

I wonder if what we're seeing there is Predator tattoos.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Apr 13, 2021, 05:13:32 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 12, 2021, 09:09:57 PM
Anyway, here is a real datamine
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/748816896316538881/831262780261793812/unknown.png?width=1202&height=676)

Well I need more customization, already had matches using all skins by now.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Jun 05, 2021, 11:32:43 AM
Another finding by Blu, an alt sniper class in the files. This could be Isabelle.

(https://i.imgur.com/3IV6Cen.png)

Also looks like the next DLC is being prepped for Steam.

(https://i.imgur.com/fItpIyt.png)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 05, 2021, 12:00:45 PM
Isabelle....

(https://media.tenor.com/images/37365ce7ce504b79cf4ebbcccb4da6e5/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Jun 05, 2021, 01:21:27 PM
At this rate she could have walked back to Earth in the amount of time it's taking her to get here. :P
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 05, 2021, 01:30:48 PM
She just entered Earth's atmosphere. She's almost here!

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlusteredMessyKillerwhale-max-1mb.gif)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Jun 05, 2021, 11:08:07 PM
But where is Lone Wolf mode? >:(
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Jun 05, 2021, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 05, 2021, 11:08:07 PM
But where is Lone Wolf mode? >:(

I'm thinking that'll be the free update for this month, hopefully paired with night mode.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jun 05, 2021, 11:40:16 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jun 05, 2021, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 05, 2021, 11:08:07 PM
But where is Lone Wolf mode? >:(

I'm thinking that'll be the free update for this month, hopefully paired with night mode.
Seeing how they are doing the big update "breaks" now, I think every DLC will drop alongside a real update from now on
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Necronoir on Jun 07, 2021, 06:53:01 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 05, 2021, 11:08:07 PM
But where is Lone Wolf mode? >:(

Wasn't it confirmed a while ago that "Lone Wolf" is just the in-engine title for the tutorial?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 07, 2021, 12:59:11 PM
Quote from: The Necronoir on Jun 07, 2021, 06:53:01 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 05, 2021, 11:08:07 PM
But where is Lone Wolf mode? >:(

Wasn't it confirmed a while ago that "Lone Wolf" is just the in-engine title for the tutorial?

I have heard that stated before in the Illfonic forums a couple times, but I'm not certain how that was confirmed.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Necronoir on Jun 07, 2021, 02:07:23 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 07, 2021, 12:59:11 PM
Quote from: The Necronoir on Jun 07, 2021, 06:53:01 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 05, 2021, 11:08:07 PM
But where is Lone Wolf mode? >:(

Wasn't it confirmed a while ago that "Lone Wolf" is just the in-engine title for the tutorial?

I have heard that stated before in the Illfonic forums a couple times, but I'm not certain how that was confirmed.

I'm no expert on that kind of thing, but I guess someone noticed the "Lone Wolf" appellation applied to resources (maybe on-screen text or certain unique game assets) that are used in the tutorial? I'm hoping we get some kind of singleplayer or co-op addition somewhere down the line regardless.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 07, 2021, 02:34:23 PM
I hope so too.🤞
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Jun 07, 2021, 02:38:06 PM
Quote from: The Necronoir on Jun 07, 2021, 06:53:01 AM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 05, 2021, 11:08:07 PM
But where is Lone Wolf mode? >:(

Wasn't it confirmed a while ago that "Lone Wolf" is just the in-engine title for the tutorial?

I'm sure that dataminers found whole missions and objectives for it, more detailed than tutorial. Few pages back I think.


Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Feb 16, 2021, 07:40:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9HBHVno--4&feature=emb_title (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9HBHVno--4&feature=emb_title)

Looks like we've got our Lone Wolf intro!
Looks to be a series of Predator objectives and what is basically an extended tutorial of game mechanics. Not a bad idea.

No idea if this is only on Overgrowth but a poster on the Illfonic forums says Airstrip (new map) comes next month.

Here it is. This implied lone wolf mode to be more than a tutorial.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Jun 07, 2021, 03:43:21 PM
Blu found Lone Wolf and played it. Here's the gameplay video.





Still being worked on I would imagine
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 07, 2021, 07:06:04 PM
I'm not certain one way or another myself, but even after these videos were posted, there were some still asserting it was an extended discarded tutorial.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Jun 07, 2021, 08:31:13 PM
Lone Wolf was either meant to be the tutorial or was repurposed into one.

The original trophy description was apparently to complete all of the lone wolf missions whereas now it's something akin to completing the tutorial. So they did intend to have more but for whatever reason couldn't do it. We could assume they will be making more if the framework is present.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jun 07, 2021, 10:43:31 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jun 07, 2021, 08:31:13 PM
Lone Wolf was either meant to be the tutorial or was repurposed into one.

The original trophy description was apparently to complete all of the lone wolf missions whereas now it's something akin to completing the tutorial. So they did intend to have more but for whatever reason couldn't do it. We could assume they will be making more if the framework is present.

Interesting!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Jun 29, 2021, 08:51:28 PM
More datamines courtesy of 'Blu' after today's update.

New Predator trophies:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/859471951835168778/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/859471985482399804/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/859472027144552468/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/859472128020971560/unknown.png)

Flashlights, probably for the rumored night mode:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/859505687637524501/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/859505693190258688/unknown.png)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jun 30, 2021, 04:52:19 AM
guys look is the backpack from fortnite!!!!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Sep 02, 2021, 07:49:57 PM
New masks datamined by 'Blu':

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/882290860547534888/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/882290890738126888/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/882290927421493298/unknown.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/882290974754213908/unknown.png)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Sep 03, 2021, 02:03:43 AM
Damn that first one is absolutely pug fugly.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 03, 2021, 12:48:27 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Sep 03, 2021, 02:03:43 AM
Damn that first one is absolutely pug fugly.

'tis a bit goofy looking  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Sep 03, 2021, 01:45:11 PM
Some interesting designs. And the second one is basically Scar's mask. I wonder if they've given up on releasing him as his own character too like I suspect they have with Mr Black and they're just releasing his mask? I hope I'm wrong on both counts, but this doesn't give me much hope.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Sep 04, 2021, 03:26:11 AM
I have a theory that Scar is locked up in the AVP license but like Universal could with Halloween Horror nights Illfonic can release an AVP style Predator, it just can't be a film character. This would explain the naming as Scar would be under the AVP license but the marking wouldn't because it's still Predator iconography. You can't use Scar but you can use something that kind of looks like him essentially.

So at best it's someone we already know who uses the same style of gear (clan leader for example), or it's an approximation perhaps of all the AVP Predators to hit as many of those beats as possible due to licensing constraints. Likely not the same issue as fitting masks to a Super Predator noggin.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Necronoir on Sep 04, 2021, 05:24:25 AM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Sep 04, 2021, 03:26:11 AM
I have a theory that Scar is locked up in the AVP license but like Universal could with Halloween Horror nights Illfonic can release an AVP style Predator, it just can't be a film character. This would explain the naming as Scar would be under the AVP license but the marking wouldn't because it's still Predator iconography. You can't use Scar but you can use something that kind of looks like him essentially.

So at best it's someone we already know who uses the same style of gear (clan leader for example), or it's an approximation perhaps of all the AVP Predators to hit as many of those beats as possible due to licensing constraints. Likely not the same issue as fitting masks to a Super Predator noggin.

I doubt it, as 20th Century / Disney owns both Alien and Predator. If there's a split in royalties I think the overlap would be greater between Predator and AVP anyway, as Davis was the lead producer on both.

That first mask reminds me of the pathogen-infected predator in one of the prequel crossover comics. I think it's the dead eyes and "fang"-lined maw.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 06, 2021, 01:38:15 PM
With Predator and AvP being separate revenue license streams, I wouldn't be surprised if the Scar biomask is released just as a mask, and they call it something like "blooded".
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Santoslive19 on Sep 06, 2021, 06:47:51 PM
what is the blue discord by the way?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Sep 08, 2021, 04:32:44 PM
'Blu' is a user active on the one of the Hunting Grounds Discord fan channels, they have been responsible for the vast majority of the datamines.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 15, 2021, 08:21:08 PM
Looks like we may see Wolf! Datamine courtesy of Blu:

(https://i.imgur.com/gpMRzfs.png)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Dec 15, 2021, 08:22:55 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/kcIwkVR6mUsAAAAC/give-me-give-it-to-me-now.gif)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on Dec 16, 2021, 10:33:43 PM
Since the Tracker Predator was not in this round up, I assume he could be in another DLC pack that includes:

Scar
Tracker
Wolf
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Dec 18, 2021, 02:02:48 PM
Tracker ✓

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/921764175385084004/Predator_Hunting_Grounds_Screenshot_2021.png)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/748816896316538881/921788254401990716/unknown.png)
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Dec 18, 2021, 06:28:21 PM
I definitely feel it was weird they left Tracker out of the line up last DLC drop. And frankly having to wait until February for him kind of blows something fierce given they half assed Captured.

I hope he comes with the dogs. But given we got all of nothing out of that drop I'm worried he's just going to be a mask. And given they had a battle axe, a spear, the falcon, and a some sort of bear trap I'm surprised it was as bare bones as it was. Like not even a weapon variant or a gadget that's been sitting in the files since near launch.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 19, 2021, 03:36:33 PM
The need to introduce a Hell-Hound with Tracker.

How would I do it?

As a weapon, similar to a smart-disc. You unleash it taking control of the Hellhound for a limited time, attack a Fireteam, and eventually it comes back to the Tracker. And the Hell-Hound like the smart-disc can be destroyed.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: acrediblesource on Dec 19, 2021, 11:52:15 PM
I imagined it would be a siren call (like the UAV drone of the FTs). Floating in a caged hell-hound in a parachute (like in the film) would take some time to do, so these need to be executed during times you really want them or that you some how can lure (with traps or audio decoys) to your area.
Once they land on the ground they open up and you auto lasso the beast and they just follow you around.

Let it loose with a button and they attack FT or SG in the vicinity. They would have to have their own health bar too.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Dec 20, 2021, 12:10:05 AM
I have a feeling if they did the dogs it would be fairly simple like they spawn in like any other character.  What I'm expecting if they did them is that they're going to be a specialization. That way there's no question as to how the Predator calls them in, they're just present at the start of the match once the intro completes.

However I think a cool way to expand on this is the cages. So Predators with the specialization like Tracker can have them by default but if a cage spawns you can go to a cage and activate the dog. So kind of like how Fireteam calls for reinforcements, this would be how Predator calls in more dogs.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Dec 20, 2021, 03:42:34 PM
While I like the ideas above, it probably will become quite the balancing nightmare once the massive programming obstacles are overcome.

That's why I say use the hound like a smart disc weapon. As with the disc, you leave your Predator body exposed as you control the hound, and when the Fireteam sees it, they know the Predator is on the ground because the Hell-Hound weapon can't be executed from the trees. And if the hound isn't killed, it comes back to you on a timer.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Jan 16, 2022, 09:29:37 AM
Via u/Metalbass5

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/s4avni/upcoming_content_or_just_something_ive_never_seen/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

(https://preview.redd.it/1tjxtqgqurb81.png?width=1910&format=png&auto=webp&s=ea457657a0ea8a40ede5e0a847dd213cb394ff5f)

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Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Mar 03, 2022, 11:05:04 PM
Well maybe we are getting a bit more than I expected...

Some exciting things in the latest datamine here, courtesy of Blu:

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    "Name": "DLC_Preds",
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      "TableNamespace": "DLC_Preds",
      "KeysToMetaData": {
        "Crucified_Name": "Captured",
        "Crucified_Desciption": "This unknown Predator of the Jungle Hunter clan wears the mask of the Captured Predator, who was saved by Royce, but ultimately killed by a Super Predator on the Game Preserve Planet.",
        "Comm_Skin": "Aurora",
        "Bawater_n": "Backwater (Night)",
        "Mr_Black": "Mr. Black",
        "Falconer": "Falconer",
        "Wolf": "Wolf",
        "Wolf_des": "A veteran and master xenomorph hunter, he met his end attempting to contain an infestation in Colorado. He brought down several xenomorphs, including a predalien, but his hunt would end in thermonuclear fire.",
        "Celtic": "Celtic",
        "Celtic_des": "An aggressive, but honorable young blood. Celtic's initiation hunt was on Earth, within the pyramid beneath Antarctica. Though he fought with strength and cunning, his hunt was ended by his prey.",
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"": "Pirate",
        "Pirate_des": "A rare, perhaps unique, Predator, she eschews the protection of the jungle for the challenge of the open sea. A scourge of great ocean hunters, she's inspired more than one seafarer's tale of monsters from the deep.",
        "Amazon": "Amazon",
        "Amazon_des": "An incredibly prolific hunter first observed operating deep in the jungles of Brazil. She's notable for her number of confirmed non-human kills, indicating she has either a resolute hunting code or is easily bored.",
        "Cyborg": "Bionic",
        "Cyborg_des": "Most Predator biotech is non-invasive, as most perish from serious injuries during a hunt. Only those with the greatest will to live return from the field requiring cybernetic prosthesis.",
        "Tank": "Tank",
        "Tank_des": "Often the vanguard of Predator invasions, the Tanks are large, resilient hunters known for their ability to endure injuries and fight through pain until the hunt is concluded.",
        "Nolan": "Nolan",
        "Emissary": "Emissary",
        "Emissary_des": "This Yautja chose to remain hidden and watch the modern human warriors, studying their tech and practices over the years. Gradually, this predator stole and constructed armor and gear similar to that of a modern military combatant. With a slight resemblance, this predator found he was able to elicit additional confusion and fear from human warriors perplexed with his unique but familiar armor.",
        "Scars1": "Scar 1",
        "Scars2": "Scar 2",
        "Scars3": "Scar 3",
        "Scars4": "Scar 4",
        "Scars5": "Scar 5",
        "Scars6": "Scar 6"
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Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Mar 04, 2022, 06:04:11 PM
Not gonna lie, that's a hell of a lot more characters than I was expecting we'd get.

I figured we'd get some sort of AVP three-pack similar to the Predators DLC a couple of months ago, and indeed it looks like we're getting Celtic at least (hopefully with cosmetic options for the rest), but six more, at two month intervals, would keep us going for another year. So that at least is good!

I like the sounds of some of those Preds. Cyborg is going to be interesting to see. I wonder if they're going to take any inspiration for the NECA and Kenner figures that had some very tech-based appearances. And it sounds like they'll be doing with "Emissary" what they did with "Exiled", in that while it's not technically supposed to be one of The Predator's Emissaries, it's very clearly inspired by them. And it looks like Noland might even be a possible fireteam member, seeing as his name shows up in that list too (or maybe it could just be because of the mask they just added).

So yeah, very cool to see they're still (hopefully) planning on supporting the game with more content for a while yet!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Mr.Turok on Mar 04, 2022, 07:04:41 PM
An Pirate Predator? Oh man, why is that such a jump the shark moment?  :laugh: Like seeing a Predator hunting out in the open ocean feels so out of place. I never liked the idea of Hell and Hot Water comic, and I don't think they can make it work here as well.

Tank Predator? I don't know how to feel about them. Seems like a military ranked Predator, if they really are Vanguards of Predator invasion. Does this mean that Earth will be invaded sometime in the lore? Hhhhmmm, The Predator film failed in putting that idea on the table so I don't have much faith on this one.

I can't wait for the others though, glad to see more Predators coming in, now I just wish the gameplay was actually up to par to make playing these upcoming Predators worth while.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on Mar 04, 2022, 07:18:45 PM
Amazon Predator, a brazillian Predator, I feel so represented now. Better be very stereotyped, I want a Anaconda skull on its belt.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Mar 04, 2022, 11:48:53 PM
And weirdly still no Fugitive despite the new ranged weapons he'd bring.

I am interested in Tank, Cyborg, and Emissary.
Personally I hope Cyborg is either Lasershot or the Borg Lost Hunter.

(https://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/09/Armored-Lost-Predator-Ultimate-Figure-026.jpg)

And all they'd really have to do is have a variant for the katana and maybe have this place be the pack for the shuriken since he carries it at least on the Neca re-release. They can even re-release the City Hunter body with some slight armor adjustments. Maybe a wristblade since he lacks it even on the toy or maybe it's a laser thing idk. Point is that while Lasershot would be cool, Borg would be the easiest foot forward for them while still using a movie character (since we bizarrely have so few of them).

Though really I want single player content. I don't need new characters at this point especially after Wolf.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on Mar 23, 2022, 04:13:30 PM
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Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on Mar 23, 2022, 04:30:59 PM
*ignores text at the top*

WEASEL!! Weasel confirmed!!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Mar 23, 2022, 09:10:39 PM
Out on a limb, they're probably gonna use that for a Prey tie-in. New map in the middle of nowhere but out of the jungle, bear instead of boar (I'd love wild life that fights back TBH), the Predator from Prey.

Wonder if that's why we haven't gotten a roadmap. We might know something before the film comes out and they had to withhold the roadmap. Even a big gap might be too much of an indicator.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 24, 2022, 12:00:04 PM
Well I'm stoked!!!
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Santoslive19 on May 09, 2022, 05:55:29 PM
NO NEW LEAKS? thats so sad
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Kailem on May 09, 2022, 08:17:32 PM
At this point I don't think there's much more left to leak.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on May 09, 2022, 11:09:19 PM
Quote from: Kailem on May 09, 2022, 08:17:32 PMAt this point I don't think there's much more left to leak.

Indeed. I'd be thrilled if we get what has been leaked already.

I would hope for some kind of crossover event with Prey featuring a new snow map. I can't imagine they'd have bears running around the jungle...
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: Samhain13 on May 10, 2022, 01:13:53 AM
They barely make accurate Predator skins without texture issues at this point, imagine a whole new snow map. No way.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: RidgeTop on May 10, 2022, 01:59:03 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 10, 2022, 01:13:53 AMThey barely make accurate Predator skins without texture issues at this point, imagine a whole new snow map. No way.

Said I was hoping... not expecting.
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: The Shuriken on May 11, 2022, 12:15:32 AM
Usually after a new update drops, someone datamines excess files that come with it. That didn't happen with the Emissary Predator right?
Title: Re: The Datamine Thread
Post by: SuperiorIronman on May 11, 2022, 02:34:43 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on May 11, 2022, 12:15:32 AMUsually after a new update drops, someone datamines excess files that come with it. That didn't happen with the Emissary Predator right?

Sort of. A whole list of Predators got leaked with the Emissary being on the list. That would be one thing but as far as I could tell the bios leaked as well and it lined up.