Any else getting annoyed with the homage's? I really thought that this would be a movie in its own right but every time i saw/heard a homage i really started to cringe, and a lot of camara shots seemed to mimic Predator too, there was even a shot of a plant that looked like the one in predator that had the pred blood on it. Oh and when one of the soldier's was doing his Billy impression good lord.
just make 1 or 2 then make your own god dam movie.. rant over lol
They were too noticeable, to be honest.
But I'm still confused, according to my Dad, the Hanzo/Falconer fight itself is a homage?
Quote from: RazorSlash on Jul 09, 2010, 10:19:19 PM
They were too noticeable, to be honest.
But I'm still confused, according to my Dad, the Hanzo/Falconer fight itself is a homage?
It is. The Billy vs Predator fight from the first film. At least the set up that is and they used the same musical cue from the first film's score.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Jul 09, 2010, 10:21:24 PM
Quote from: RazorSlash on Jul 09, 2010, 10:19:19 PM
They were too noticeable, to be honest.
But I'm still confused, according to my Dad, the Hanzo/Falconer fight itself is a homage?
It is. The Billy vs Predator fight from the first film. At least the set up that is and they used the same musical cue from the first film's score.
Exactly. I didn't mind these homages they were good and not as lame as avp-r!! But Royce yelling "come on I'm here kill me come on do it now!!" that was dumb. Predator 2 didn't do that besides the ugly mother f*cker line.
i didnt think the homages were any worse than other films. it isnt anything new. all four terminator films include both "come with me if you want to live" and 2ill be back". A few sentences out of an entire movie doesnt spoil my enjoyment of it.
yhea i don't see the problem with this either, it are just some lines so what!
JB
I like that the Ugly Mother F***er line was said in Russian. it was a nice touch.
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Jul 09, 2010, 10:39:51 PM
I like that the Ugly Mother F***er line was said in Russian. it was a nice touch.
Whoa, was that right before he blew himself up? I don't remember seeing any subtitles. :-\
Quote from: First Blood on Jul 09, 2010, 11:03:39 PM
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Jul 09, 2010, 10:39:51 PM
I like that the Ugly Mother F***er line was said in Russian. it was a nice touch.
Whoa, was that right before he blew himself up? I don't remember seeing any subtitles. :-\
Yeah, that scene. And yeah, there weren't.
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Jul 09, 2010, 11:06:28 PM
Quote from: First Blood on Jul 09, 2010, 11:03:39 PM
Quote from: HybridNewborn on Jul 09, 2010, 10:39:51 PM
I like that the Ugly Mother F***er line was said in Russian. it was a nice touch.
Whoa, was that right before he blew himself up? I don't remember seeing any subtitles. :-\
Yeah, that scene. And yeah, there weren't.
Ah, thanks. :)
putting subtitles in would have been even cornier than just saying it in english so they wisely left them out. that scene in itself felt like an homage to Aliens when Vasquez and Gorman are in the tunnel.
The references and everything may have been noticeable, but at least they weren't so in your face.
Oh the homages annoyed the living hell out of me, half of the damn movie was a homage!
In my opinion, I think anyone who knows the difference between a good sequel and a bad knows that the maximum number of homages that you might be able to get away with in a sequel is one. I thought Rodriguez knew this, especially after AvP:R which was a horrible homage trainwreck disaster.
I will list the things that I remember:
- Music, almost entire soundtrack (not a big deal, but not really new either.)
- Nikolai using the minigun.
- "What the hell are you?" Royce
- Hanzo/Falconer fight (the beginning, Billy all day)
- "Kill me, I'm here!" Royce
- "If it comes to that, I'll do us both." Isabelle. From Aliens, WTF?
- Backstory of Dutch's team and Predator 1 + Royce in mud (homage, but also a genuine addition to the story, kind of cool I think.)
+ Forgot "The enemy of my enemy..." Royce, AvP homage for the fail!
Another thing that had me cringing was the falling into the water scene, it just looked so much like Arnold's falling scene in Predator.
That's all I can remember, but holy cow. Dear screenplay writers, if you would like your movie to be taken seriously, do not use more than one homage to a previous film. Please, for the love of god. I feel that removing all of this crap and replacing with original things would have done nothing but help the movie. I really enjoyed the "I'm alive" saying that Noland and Royce used, very fitting to the film and the Predator theme in general.
Funny.
As flawed as AvP was, it did quite a few things right. The way it referenced previous films was one of those things.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Jul 10, 2010, 12:33:42 AM
Funny.
As flawed as AvP was, it did quite a few things right. The way it referenced previous films was one of those things.
Are you serious?
Quote from: RagingDragon on Jul 10, 2010, 12:36:18 AM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Jul 10, 2010, 12:33:42 AM
Funny.
As flawed as AvP was, it did quite a few things right. The way it referenced previous films was one of those things.
Are you serious?
The first AVP had some nice subtle homage's.
The Enemy of my enemy was not an AvP homage. That's saying has been around for years. Way before AvP grabbed it.
What the F**K are you was not a homage. There were a few. Some were in your face, others were subtle...but it was not that bad. You guys are exaggerating if you think it was that bad.
"Enemy of my enemy" has implications associated with AvP amongst the fanbase now.
If they didn't want to make the association, that line wouldn't have been there.
Yeah no. I guess Winston Churchill ripped off of AvP too huh?
Not all of them bother me, but dude, to be honest some of them really annoyed me.
the log traps
Quote from: RagingDragon on Jul 10, 2010, 12:22:45 AM
Oh the homages annoyed the living hell out of me, half of the damn movie was a homage!
In my opinion, I think anyone who knows the difference between a good sequel and a bad knows that the maximum number of homages that you might be able to get away with in a sequel is one. I thought Rodriguez knew this, especially after AvP:R which was a horrible homage trainwreck disaster.
I will list the things that I remember:
- Music, almost entire soundtrack (not a big deal, but not really new either.)
- Nikolai using the minigun.
- "What the hell are you?" Royce
- Hanzo/Falconer fight (the beginning, Billy all day)
- "Kill me, I'm here!" Royce
- "If it comes to that, I'll do us both." Isabelle. From Aliens, WTF?
- Backstory of Dutch's team and Predator 1 + Royce in mud (homage, but also a genuine addition to the story, kind of cool I think.)
+ Forgot "The enemy of my enemy..." Royce, AvP homage for the fail!
Another thing that had me cringing was the falling into the water scene, it just looked so much like Arnold's falling scene in Predator.
That's all I can remember, but holy cow. Dear screenplay writers, if you would like your movie to be taken seriously, do not use more than one homage to a previous film. Please, for the love of god. I feel that removing all of this crap and replacing with original things would have done nothing but help the movie. I really enjoyed the "I'm alive" saying that Noland and Royce used, very fitting to the film and the Predator theme in general.
The music was great!!!!! It was different enough but still had the same theme. If avp had done that it would of been a bit better
Quote from: CEP on Jul 10, 2010, 12:47:57 AM
Yeah no. I guess Winston Churchill ripped off of AvP too huh?
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that the line was played up so heavily in the first film that there's a level of audience association with it, especially within the fanbase.
If you've seen AvP, you're gonna think of it when you hear the line in this movie.
Any director worth their salt knows this.
The line was a nod in the direction of AvP 2004.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Jul 10, 2010, 01:13:39 AM
Quote from: CEP on Jul 10, 2010, 12:47:57 AM
Yeah no. I guess Winston Churchill ripped off of AvP too huh?
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that the line was played up so heavily in the first film that there's a level of audience association with it, especially within the fanbase.
If you've seen AvP, you're gonna think of it when you hear the line in this movie.
Any director worth their salt knows this.
The line was a nod in the direction of AvP 2004.
As much as I hate to I gotta agree with him here. I thought of AvP as soon as heard that line uttered and chuckled, but I doubt they did that on purpose though.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Jul 10, 2010, 01:13:39 AM
Quote from: CEP on Jul 10, 2010, 12:47:57 AM
Yeah no. I guess Winston Churchill ripped off of AvP too huh?
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that the line was played up so heavily in the first film that there's a level of audience association with it, especially within the fanbase.
If you've seen AvP, you're gonna think of it when you hear the line in this movie.
Any director worth their salt knows this.
The line was a nod in the direction of AvP 2004.
Actually when I heard that line I didn't really think of AvP at all, but that's just me.
MadassAlex is right, in my opinion. I thought of AvP instantly. Facepalm.
And I disagree that "What the f*** are you" wasn't a homage. Huh? That was the closing, climactic line in the first Predator, which was HUGE since the Predator himself said it with his mouth. Also used in AvP:R by the general, to homage the first film.
Homage city.
they were not that big of a deal for me. I enjoyed them.
There's a lot of talk about the music in other threads. I wanted to say that if it was just the music, maybe with 1 other homage line from a previous movie, I think I would have enjoyed it more.
It was the music + half of the first movie stuck into the new one. Come on, make up your own material, it seems like you're desperate to keep the fans and too afraid to try new things. Why do movie executives think that if they throw in a bunch of one-liners from the old movie, somehow it will excite the fans? A fantastic movie with zero reference to the older films would excite everyone more than that. Just my thoughts.
"Over here, over here. Turn around."
I thought the Over Here scene was crazy as hell! Loved it.
I was REALLY surprised at the Aliens references. "I'll do us both" and the score had the same cues from Aliens that Avatar took too.
The "over here" bit annoyed the shit out of me.
They literally could've had him say anything. Anything. But no, it has to be "over here".
I don't understand you guys. The homages were great! If you're not a fan of the original movies, you're not going to know that they're there anyway. Like having Long Tall Sally play for the end credits; Only a Predator fan is going to recognize that.
As a HUGE fan of Predator in general, I thought that this movie was incredibly well done. I had the biggest grin on my face through the whole movie.
If I wanted a creepy scene with someone saying "Over here", I'd watch Predator.
Sequels are for doing new things. Not just literally taking from the previous film and slapping it wherever it may fit.
I really don't see how someone can bitch about these. they're just fun little things the writers threw in. And the "enemy of my enemy" AVP mentality was destroyed with the response "doesn't make it your friend"
Because they're cheap fixes for not being able to think of anything new.
And it was "destroyed" right up until the end of the movie proved it right.
I think Rodriguez wanted to make this movie enjoyable for the old crowd as well as introduce new people into the audience. Remember, this movie isn't a Sequel, or a remake. It's simply a reboot tied to the original movie.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 10, 2010, 04:32:27 AM
Because they're cheap fixes for not being able to think of anything new.
And it was "destroyed" right up until the end of the movie proved it right.
I would call that a team up though. Just a mutual agreement. Classic had more important things on his hands then dealing with Royce. At least they didn't hang out for the last half of the movie and have a slow motion running shot together.
Quote from: HellsAngel on Jul 10, 2010, 04:39:38 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jul 10, 2010, 04:32:27 AM
Because they're cheap fixes for not being able to think of anything new.
And it was "destroyed" right up until the end of the movie proved it right.
I would call that a team up though. Just a mutual agreement. Classic had more important things on his hands then dealing with Royce. At least they didn't hang out for the last half of the movie and have a slow motion running shot together.
and if I recall from AvP, Scar didn't
Spoiler
grab Lex by her neck to examine her, as Anytime 2 did Royce, as Anytime did Dutch
It was all bound to the normal Predators honor system.
Quote from: Lumine on Jul 10, 2010, 04:40:52 AM
and if I recall from AvP, Scar didn't
Spoiler
grab Lex by her neck to examine her, as Anytime 2 did Royce, as Anytime did Dutch
Another homage that gave me the shits.
Quote from: Lumine on Jul 10, 2010, 04:35:28 AMRemember, this movie isn't a Sequel, or a remake. It's simply a reboot tied to the original movie.
It's a sequel. No amount of semantics can change that.
It's a sequel but it certainly doesn't block out predator 2
It's like Predator branched out into two "simultaneous" sequels, not simultaneous releases but simultaneous in the sense that Predators and Predator 2 are both sequels to Predator, but Predators is not a sequel to Predator 2. It's like a mother having a second child 20 years after her first. As opposed to the first child having a child.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 10, 2010, 04:43:43 AM
Quote from: Lumine on Jul 10, 2010, 04:40:52 AM
and if I recall from AvP, Scar didn't
Spoiler
grab Lex by her neck to examine her, as Anytime 2 did Royce, as Anytime did Dutch
Another homage that gave me the shits.
I don't see why. The predator has done that several times. its a part of the character, just like its fighting stance.
Predators grab plenty of people by the neck, but Dutch was the only one examined like that.
The Alien skull (I thought Rodriguez wanted this movie nothing to do with AvP or Alien)
Isabelle and Edwin being caught by the net trap-- Either it was me, or it was a shot for shot scene of the Predator being caught by Dutch's net in the first film?
-Rakai'Thwei
Wait a minute, wait a minute, Say WHAT?
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2010, 05:06:53 AM
The Alien skull
There's a long, black, vaguely Alien-looking skull burning in the camp.
I never saw the alien skull but that's a Predator 2 homage right there, but it could also be a homage to the AVP movies.
Quote from: Lumine on Jul 10, 2010, 05:10:33 AM
Wait a minute, wait a minute, Say WHAT?
You read right.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 10, 2010, 05:12:01 AM
There's a long, black, vaguely Alien-looking skull burning in the camp.
Oh it's there. Thing is, I thought Rodriguez HATED the AvP films, which we all know he did and wanted PREDATORS nothing to do with AvP or Alien.
Apparently, that was bull. If you ask me.
-Rakai'Thwei
Another homage, when the Russian lifts anytime head and he wakes up just like the chick in aliens that had the chest burster in her.
Quote from: SiL on Jul 10, 2010, 05:12:01 AM
There's a long, black, vaguely Alien-looking skull burning in the camp.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi887.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac71%2Fqwertyuiopasdfhjkl%2Fi_am_dissapoint.jpg&hash=ce212e70113c8816d31fb9f9bb849694758ad153)
Well, it looks like Fox sabotaged this movie.
Quote from: Lumine on Jul 10, 2010, 05:20:39 AM
Well, it looks like Fox sabotaged this movie.
Fox apparently had little input.
Rodriguez and co are to blame for any problems you have.
WHAT?!
How?
How can you blame Fox in the least?!
Quote from: Lumine on Jul 10, 2010, 05:20:39 AM
Well, it looks like Fox sabotaged this movie.
This was Rodriguez's movie, not Fox's.. Rodriguez's.
-Rakai'Thwei
Well now we have reason to believe why they mirrored Vazquez's death.
Quote from: Lumine on Jul 10, 2010, 05:24:20 AM
Well now we have reason to believe why they mirrored Vazquez's death.
What?
Where? Which scene?
I saw the movie last night, and I don't remember such a scene!
-Rakai'Thwei
That skull didn't look at all like an alien skull. Personally, i thought it looked like a dog skull.
And I guess this is an Homage, the Stickman looked like it was based off of the original design for the Predator. This, I actually liked.
QuoteAnd I guess this is an Homage, the Stickman looked like it was based off of the original design for the Predator. This, I actually liked.
I did notice that as well. It was more like pray-mantis/insect alien though. lol.
Quote from: Lumine on Jul 10, 2010, 04:35:28 AM
I think Rodriguez wanted to make this movie enjoyable for the old crowd as well as introduce new people into the audience. Remember, this movie isn't a Sequel, or a remake. It's simply a reboot tied to the original movie.
you could say that about predator 2. nether are realy squeals there just separate storios conected with the first.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jul 10, 2010, 05:25:17 AM
Quote from: Lumine on Jul 10, 2010, 05:24:20 AM
Well now we have reason to believe why they mirrored Vazquez's death.
What?
Where? Which scene?
I saw the movie last night, and I don't remember such a scene!
-Rakai'Thwei
Nikolai's death
Sacrificing yourself =/= automatic homage to previous related films, in this case "Vasquez's". It wasn't even executed in the same fashion.
Some of you are reaching. Hard.
It's topics like these that remind me why I usually leave whenever a new movie comes out.
Quote from: Noir-Gojira on Jul 10, 2010, 06:58:22 AM
It's topics like these that remind me why I usually leave whenever a new movie comes out.
Win.
Win what? If he was smart, he would have followed his gut. :)
There is no goddamn Alien skull....that thing looked nothing like an Alien. It looked like a jaw to some dinosaur. Good lord.
I found some homages/references/similarities to the following movies:
Apocalypse Now - Noland's character
The Crow - the mechanical bird thing
Jurassic Park III - Cuchillo being used as bait
28 Days Later - Royce going all primal at the end reminded me more of Cillian Murphy at the end for some reason.
Leon aka The Professional - Tusk's death was like Stansfield's death
Bullshit.
Now you're grasping at things.
Quote from: Wristblades on Jul 10, 2010, 09:44:39 AM
The Crow - the mechanical bird thing
Yeah, who can forget the scene in The Crow where he uses a mechanical surveillance device. :D
:o
You know the scene in the jungle when they walked? Thats JUST LIKE THE SCENE IN CONGO! When they were in a jungle...they were all walking. Holy shit. Nimrod, why are you so unoriginal!
ouch i is hurtin
Wow CEP I'm totally with you!!! The even used the words "and", "come", "these" and so on... I can't even begin to list all the movies where they stole that from...
Jeezz... And I am outta hereee!!
ooooohhh ahhhhh stop gang-raping me!! lol
If you even read the content of my post. f**ktards.
Sorry about raping you...but it IS 5:00....you see...so....
Quote from: SiL on Jul 10, 2010, 04:32:27 AM
Because they're cheap fixes for not being able to think of anything new.
And it was "destroyed" right up until the end of the movie proved it right.
Hit the Nail right on the head there sil.
There are no new ideas. All ideas are now variations on other ideas.
Lets just say that this is one hell of a cliched movie...
Quote from: CEP on Jul 10, 2010, 10:24:16 AM
There are no new ideas. All ideas are now variations on other ideas.
Goddamned postmodernists.
lol. I dont mind it. It's not the idea that needs to be worked on...it's the execution.
Which is more original? District 9? or Avatar? Both movies arent all that new in terms of story...but the way they handled their story really showed in the final film.
Quote from: CEP on Jul 10, 2010, 10:08:43 AM
Sorry about raping you...but it IS 5:00....you see...so....
You just won the Internets. :D
But come on! For Christ's sake, did the homages really ruin the movie!? I thought they were nice touches that were nods to previous films, why do you all hate them so much!
Saying that the entire film was a rip-off because of a few homages and was un-original is completely over-exaggerating.
Because of course, we've ALWAYS seen Pred dogs or Black predators before all the time, so they're completely un-original!
Samurai vs Predator? Ha! Unoriginal.
Predator v Predators fight in film? Unoriginal.
Pred UAV Falcon? Unoriginal.
Yeah...those was sarcasm.
Now lighten up and enjoy the damn movie.
Quote from: CEP on Jul 10, 2010, 10:08:43 AM
Sorry about raping you...but it IS 5:00....you see...so....
Bitch raping time?
Yes indeed. The best time ever.
Quote from: Xenodog on Jul 10, 2010, 11:16:05 AM
Quote from: CEP on Jul 10, 2010, 10:08:43 AM
Sorry about raping you...but it IS 5:00....you see...so....
You just won the Internets. :D
But come on! For Christ's sake, did the homages really ruin the movie!? I thought they were nice touches that were nods to previous films, why do you all hate them so much!
Saying that the entire film was a rip-off because of a few homages and was un-original is completely over-exaggerating.
Because of course, we've ALWAYS seen Pred dogs or Black predators before all the time, so they're completely un-original!
Samurai vs Predator? Ha! Unoriginal.
Predator v Predators fight in film? Unoriginal.
Pred UAV Falcon? Unoriginal.
Yeah...those was sarcasm.
Now lighten up and enjoy the damn movie.
Samurai vs Predator- that fight scene has been done in countless movies, they way it started to they way it ended, a true facepalm moment.
Predator v Predators fight- didnt see a fight, i saw a classic Predator get owned.
Pred UAV Falcon- was only in the movie for ooh about 30 seconds? but yes original.
The only homage i didn't like was when Royce said 'come on kill me' the mud thing i didn't mind it cos it didn't work, he had to cover his heat by using fire in the end. I also don't get why people are saying the score was a homage as many people on here said they wanted the OG music back before the films release, as for the Billy homage i liked that idea, the one problem i had with the OG pred film was that you didn't see Billy fight Anytime, they just didn't get the choreography right in this one.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Jul 10, 2010, 12:45:38 AM
"Enemy of my enemy" has implications associated with AvP amongst the fanbase now.
If they didn't want to make the association, that line wouldn't have been there.
I don't think Rodriquez gives two shits about AvP or it's fanbase.
One homage which i thought was really sneaking under the border was tango man, repeating the 'come on' over and over before being ripped open. I did stop and think, hey...that's dutch in the ditch!
I didn't catch the Alien head at the camp...but i did wonder about the alien when they discovered the first cage. Anyone remember in the Alien film when the chest-buster shed it's skin...well i was thinking about the alien when we saw all skin-like material all over the cage...
Quote from: shakermakerman on Jul 09, 2010, 10:01:21 PM
Any else getting annoyed with the homage's? I really thought that this would be a movie in its own right but every time i saw/heard a homage i really started to cringe, and a lot of camara shots seemed to mimic Predator too, there was even a shot of a plant that looked like the one in predator that had the pred blood on it. Oh and when one of the soldier's was doing his Billy impression good lord.
just make 1 or 2 then make your own god dam movie.. rant over lol
Yeah, the entire movie was one long, uninspired homage. No originality whatsoever...
Quote from: Mutha_Brucka on Jul 10, 2010, 01:58:31 PM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Jul 10, 2010, 12:45:38 AM
"Enemy of my enemy" has implications associated with AvP amongst the fanbase now.
If they didn't want to make the association, that line wouldn't have been there.
I don't think Rodriquez gives two shits about AvP or it's fanbase.
then why was there a burning Alien skull at the predator camp?
Burning Alien Skull :o I Didn't Notice That. I Seen The Pred Skull Alright In The Ground
Quote from: Cloak_Dagger on Jul 10, 2010, 02:17:29 PM
One homage which i thought was really sneaking under the border was tango man, repeating the 'come on' over and over before being ripped open. I did stop and think, hey...that's dutch in the ditch!
I didn't catch the Alien head at the camp...but i did wonder about the alien when they discovered the first cage. Anyone remember in the Alien film when the chest-buster shed it's skin...well i was thinking about the alien when we saw all skin-like material all over the cage...
I was thinking the same thing with the the skin in the cage it looked like shedded alien skin.
The burning skull never came off as an alien skull to me. Looked more like the top jaw of a crocodilian.
Didn't mind any of the homages really. In fact the Hanzo duel music made me grin in the theater.
Quote from: shakermakerman on Jul 10, 2010, 11:54:08 AM
Quote from: Xenodog on Jul 10, 2010, 11:16:05 AM
Quote from: CEP on Jul 10, 2010, 10:08:43 AM
Sorry about raping you...but it IS 5:00....you see...so....
You just won the Internets. :D
But come on! For Christ's sake, did the homages really ruin the movie!? I thought they were nice touches that were nods to previous films, why do you all hate them so much!
Saying that the entire film was a rip-off because of a few homages and was un-original is completely over-exaggerating.
Because of course, we've ALWAYS seen Pred dogs or Black predators before all the time, so they're completely un-original!
Samurai vs Predator? Ha! Unoriginal.
Predator v Predators fight in film? Unoriginal.
Pred UAV Falcon? Unoriginal.
Yeah...those was sarcasm.
Now lighten up and enjoy the damn movie.
Samurai vs Predator- that fight scene has been done in countless movies, they way it started to they way it ended, a true facepalm moment.
Predator v Predators fight- didnt see a fight, i saw a classic Predator get owned.
Pred UAV Falcon- was only in the movie for ooh about 30 seconds? but yes original.
Funny, because I've never seen a Samurai vs Predator
ever. Plus everyone else seemed to enjoy it.
And you must be blind then, because Classic still put up a decent resistance, even if he did lose.
To me, the homages stood out more than they did in either AVP film.
Doesn't make it worse than the AVP films.
I don't mind homages as long as they are kept minimal and aren't blatant rip-offs. In Predators, it took me out of the Movie a couple times, because I was like "Seen that." "Yup, seen that too." "Oh, come on, enough already."
Am I the only one who liked the "Aliens" soundtrack hints? I really loved those it brought a great deal of atmosphere with it.
Quote from: Xenodog on Jul 10, 2010, 06:39:50 PM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Jul 10, 2010, 11:54:08 AM
Quote from: Xenodog on Jul 10, 2010, 11:16:05 AM
Quote from: CEP on Jul 10, 2010, 10:08:43 AM
Sorry about raping you...but it IS 5:00....you see...so....
You just won the Internets. :D
But come on! For Christ's sake, did the homages really ruin the movie!? I thought they were nice touches that were nods to previous films, why do you all hate them so much!
Saying that the entire film was a rip-off because of a few homages and was un-original is completely over-exaggerating.
Because of course, we've ALWAYS seen Pred dogs or Black predators before all the time, so they're completely un-original!
Samurai vs Predator? Ha! Unoriginal.
Predator v Predators fight in film? Unoriginal.
Pred UAV Falcon? Unoriginal.
Yeah...those was sarcasm.
Now lighten up and enjoy the damn movie.
Samurai vs Predator- that fight scene has been done in countless movies, they way it started to they way it ended, a true facepalm moment.
Predator v Predators fight- didnt see a fight, i saw a classic Predator get owned.
Pred UAV Falcon- was only in the movie for ooh about 30 seconds? but yes original.
Funny, because I've never seen a Samurai vs Predator ever. Plus everyone else seemed to enjoy it.
The way the fight started, played out, and ended, is something that has been done so many f**king times.
The homages didn't quite 'ruin' the movie for me, I mean I really enjoyed all of the new stuff and the creative efforts as much as everybody else, but in a movie that I'm sitting on the fence about, throw in TOO MANY homages (especially after a movie like AvP:R) and they will shove the movie from A-B grade to a C-D grade.
It seemed like a great movie with awesome performances, so why the homages? Homages are the weakest sort of plot device you can use to appeal to fans, it just makes you seem desperate or that you, being the director or producer or whatever, are a fanboy yourself, more concerned with throwing in every reference you can to the other films to ensure loyalty then in having confidence in your own creative new work.
They are always cheesy, if you use more than one or so a movie. Terminator 2, 1 homage, also done well and steeped in emotion. Terminator: Salvation? More than one, and they made people cringe. That's my comparison, and I just think a movie like Predators should have more self-respect than to use so many homages.