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Title: First Prometheus Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Jul 04, 2012, 05:13:59 AM
http://www.amazon.fr/Evolution-De-Alien-Prometheus-Blu-ray/dp/B008F8G5AI/ (http://www.amazon.fr/Evolution-De-Alien-Prometheus-Blu-ray/dp/B008F8G5AI/)

http://www.amazon.fr/Prometheus-Blu-ray-Charlize-Theron/dp/B002L6UMF4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_d_1 (http://www.amazon.fr/Prometheus-Blu-ray-Charlize-Theron/dp/B002L6UMF4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_d_1)


Thanks to seeasea for the link.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gash on Jul 04, 2012, 05:17:39 AM
No extended cut yet then, but alternate takes as bonus material.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Jul 04, 2012, 05:18:12 AM
My French is rusty, but doesn't that say 150 with extras?

Cuz right below that, it says the commentary runs 120, which is the length of the theatrical cut. Looks like the 15 minutes of deleted scenes will only be "in the menu" after all.

f**k.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ShadowPred on Jul 04, 2012, 05:27:17 AM
Hell, before that it says that the duration is 124 minutes. So yes, the extra "EXTENDED" stuff is going to be just as you said.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: JaaayDee on Jul 04, 2012, 05:30:12 AM
QuoteDuration: 124 minutes

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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Face Jockey on Jul 04, 2012, 05:31:44 AM
They wouldn't give up the long cut in initial release. They have to be able sell it to us at least twice and then a maybe a third time as part of a boxed set.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Jul 04, 2012, 05:32:16 AM
lolz guys, but just think--if the Extended Cut DOES come out later, it'll just be another $30 double dip! Everybody wins! Thanks Fox! Thanks Ridley!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ShadowPred on Jul 04, 2012, 05:37:27 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Jul 04, 2012, 05:32:16 AM
lolz guys, but just think--if the Extended Cut DOES come out later, it'll just be another $30 double dip! Everybody wins! Thanks Fox! Thanks Ridley!


*High fives for everyone!*
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: JaaayDee on Jul 04, 2012, 05:46:02 AM
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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ShadowPred on Jul 04, 2012, 05:52:26 AM
Quote from: JaaayDee on Jul 04, 2012, 05:46:02 AM
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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 06:13:46 AM
There'll be an extended cut, I'm sure. Not really surprised it's not on the first release. The first is always the most basic.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Anonymous User on Jul 04, 2012, 06:36:09 AM
Honestly I felt a little bit ripped off already by the movie. I went the first time because it has Scott signature in it. A new Scott's scifi after Alien and Blade Runner. After that, I refused to go for a second viewing because I don't want to give anymore of my money to Fox/Scott.

If they sell an extended cut after this DVD release, I'll feel completely sick.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 06:38:05 AM
Quote from: Anonymous User on Jul 04, 2012, 06:36:09 AM
If they sell an extended cut after this DVD release, I'll feel completely sick.

Well, that's what Blade Runner did.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Jul 04, 2012, 07:17:21 AM
f**k this shit.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: dave1978 on Jul 04, 2012, 07:22:00 AM
Suck me Fox,  im not buying this rubbish.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 07:25:09 AM
Good Christ, I've never seen so much anger over a Bluray...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Prime113 on Jul 04, 2012, 07:31:25 AM
This shit, it is weak.  :(  >:(
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: im here for the xenos on Jul 04, 2012, 07:36:27 AM
what i think is that there will be 26 extra minutes of the movie (150-124) plus 15 minutes of deleted footage
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ShadowPred on Jul 04, 2012, 07:37:53 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 07:25:09 AM
Good Christ, I've never seen so much anger over a Bluray...

Prometheus, it was bound to happen.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Jul 04, 2012, 07:49:10 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 06:13:46 AM
There'll be an extended cut, I'm sure. Not really surprised it's not on the first release. The first is always the most basic.

There was a 1-disc and a 2-disc version of Hancock upon its release.  The 2-disc included the extended unrated cut.  They didn't do any releases after that.  That's just one example of many but I used Hancock because it was so successful and it wasn't like they were trying to squeeze more money out of everyone.  Of course the same can't be said for Avatar.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: dave1978 on Jul 04, 2012, 07:59:58 AM
I have already been pocket raped twice watching this unfinished pile, im not prepared to part with any more hard earned cash until they put everything they hacked out back in.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 08:01:00 AM
Why did you go twice if you disliked it so much?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: zoidy on Jul 04, 2012, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 07:25:09 AM
Good Christ, I've never seen so much anger over a Bluray...
Ha ha ha, you are so right, this thread is funny. Face it people - most of you ARE going to buy it, and then you'll buy an extended cut, and you'll be grateful!

LOL
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: hardcorps54 on Jul 04, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
Quote from: zoidy on Jul 04, 2012, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 07:25:09 AM
Good Christ, I've never seen so much anger over a Bluray...
Ha ha ha, you are so right, this thread is funny. Face it people - most of you ARE going to buy it, and then you'll buy an extended cut, and you'll be grateful!

LOL

haha he is right , i dont know how many different copies of the original saga i have bought , we are those kids in horror movies that think we should split up to cover more ground , we moan like f*ck but still are reeled in by a new better copy lol
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: PsyKore on Jul 04, 2012, 09:47:27 AM
Disappointing there's no proper extended version, but it doesn't surprise me - that's just how business works. You're damn right I'll buy this movie 2 or 3 times down the line. :laugh:
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Blacklabel on Jul 04, 2012, 09:56:15 AM
It's probably too soon to announce an extended version.... the film's still in theaters... it would probably send the wrong message to filmgoers.. (that the version in theaters isnt the intended, definite version of the film.)

That's what i "want to believe" at least :P

We'll find out more in time...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Jul 04, 2012, 10:11:24 AM
Could be an Avatar job. Get some cash in then release the bigger version.

Slightly shitty that they do this but I guess it's a business. I'll hang off.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Jango1201 on Jul 04, 2012, 10:16:17 AM
Of course it's a cash thing ::) What else would it be? A fan pleaser? Hahaha!!!

Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Jul 04, 2012, 10:17:32 AM
Quote from: Jango1201 on Jul 04, 2012, 10:16:17 AM
Of course it's a cash thing ::) What else would it be? A fan pleaser? Hahaha!!!

The point is now we've got to wait longer when they could just release the two versions at the same time.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Jango1201 on Jul 04, 2012, 10:21:11 AM
Which is what they bank on. They figure the longer we drool the faster we'll pounce on a better version. Like tempting a drug recovering addict...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Jul 04, 2012, 10:29:57 AM
Wow, seriously? My latest post in this thread got removed? :-\ Apparently jokes aren't welcome here if they involve Ridley Scott.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ShadowPred on Jul 04, 2012, 10:32:54 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Jul 04, 2012, 10:29:57 AM
Wow, seriously? My latest post in this thread got removed? :-\ Apparently jokes aren't welcome here if they involve Ridley Scott.

He's watching!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Jul 04, 2012, 10:33:50 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jul 04, 2012, 10:32:54 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Jul 04, 2012, 10:29:57 AM
Wow, seriously? My latest post in this thread got removed? :-\ Apparently jokes aren't welcome here if they involve Ridley Scott.

He's watching!

In that case, Sir, I am disappoint.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ShadowPred on Jul 04, 2012, 10:34:56 AM
Yes, exactly how I feel with this Blu Ray not being an extended cut, but what the hell was I expecting, really?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Jango1201 on Jul 04, 2012, 10:35:22 AM
Dont worry I welcome jokes  ;D
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Jul 04, 2012, 10:35:56 AM
Apparently someone wasn't happy about it. ::)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gazz on Jul 04, 2012, 10:37:13 AM
To be honest it's not really clear. For instance it's listed as being 150 minutes long but doesn't clarify if that's with the bonus features. But if that was the case why do the bonus features add up to beyond 150 minutes when combined with the film's run time. I'll wait for the official release announcement before I judge.

That said, I can see Fox doing the exact same thing they did with Avatar here and it wouldn't surprise me if this version is bare bones. It certainly looks like it pales in comparison to Charles De Lauzirika usual dvd/blu-ray packages.

EDIT: The 3 disc version packaged up with the Alien Anthology looks more like it, especially with the 120 minutes worth of extras on a bonus disc.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Darth Vile on Jul 04, 2012, 12:03:37 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Jul 04, 2012, 10:37:13 AM
To be honest it's not really clear. For instance it's listed as being 150 minutes long but doesn't clarify if that's with the bonus features. But if that was the case why do the bonus features add up to beyond 150 minutes when combined with the film's run time. I'll wait for the official release announcement before I judge.

That said, I can see Fox doing the exact same thing they did with Avatar here and it wouldn't surprise me if this version is bare bones. It certainly looks like it pales in comparison to Charles De Lauzirika usual dvd/blu-ray packages.

EDIT: The 3 disc version packaged up with the Alien Anthology looks more like it, especially with the 120 minutes worth of extras on a bonus disc.

Agreed. Although what Fox have to weigh up (if we assume there is an extended version in the vaults) is the market for a bare bones blu-ray release versus the market (and will) for a double-dip 6 months later with an extended cut. My gut feel is that an initial release of an extended cut will sell more than a bare bones and re-release combined (they'd really have to spend a lot on marketing a re-release IMHO). I think that if this version isn't extended, we won't see another version for years i.e. a re-release prior to Prometheus 2.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Jango1201 on Jul 04, 2012, 12:11:42 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Jul 04, 2012, 10:35:56 AM
Apparently someone wasn't happy about it. ::)

Meh, humor is dead.

By the way, love your poem  ;D
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: episodenone on Jul 04, 2012, 12:32:27 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 07:25:09 AM
Good Christ, I've never seen so much anger over a Bluray...

i know! seriously - you guys need to freakin relax!  this is a totally over-reaction like few i have ever seen in my entire life.

calm the f down.

just dvr it on hbo until the extended edition is released.  hate less -- live longer
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: TJ Doc on Jul 04, 2012, 12:34:49 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 07:25:09 AM
Good Christ, I've never seen so much anger over a Bluray...

*cough*predatorultimatehunteredition*cough*
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: OmegaZilla on Jul 04, 2012, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Jul 04, 2012, 12:34:49 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 07:25:09 AM
Good Christ, I've never seen so much anger over a Bluray...

*cough*predatorultimatehunteredition*cough*
Ha, touchè.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: LarsVader on Jul 04, 2012, 01:19:52 PM
And I guess most of the sketches, artworks and bts pics will end up in the second screen app, which probably will only be online as long Fox wants it to be.
I don't have an I-pad, like most I guess.
Can't await that someone uploads the app and I can rip it apart.
The Tron app had literally hundreds of pieces of artwork in it.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Divpax on Jul 04, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Jul 04, 2012, 12:34:49 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 07:25:09 AM
Good Christ, I've never seen so much anger over a Bluray...

*cough*predatorultimatehunteredition*cough*
It deserved every word of the hate.

Dat waxy Dillon... Eew...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: NGR01 on Jul 04, 2012, 02:18:14 PM
Looks fully loaded Bonus wise.
Probably get an extended cut later but this is already very decent.


Quote from: LarsVader on Jul 04, 2012, 01:19:52 PM
And I guess most of the sketches, artworks and bts pics will end up in the second screen app, which probably will only be online as long Fox wants it to be.
I don't have an I-pad, like most I guess.
Can't await that someone uploads the app and I can rip it apart.
The Tron app had literally hundreds of pieces of artwork in it.

What this app thing never heard about it?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Jul 04, 2012, 02:28:33 PM
I don't know, I think an extended cut may still be on there.

So, maybe what we've got here is the option to watch either version through seamless branching, and Ridley only recorded a commentary for the theatrical cut?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Jul 04, 2012, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Jul 04, 2012, 02:28:33 PM
I don't know, I think an extended cut may still be on there.

  • the runtime is listed as 150
  • the commentary is listed as 120

So, maybe what we've got here is the option to watch either version through seamless branching, and Ridley only recorded a commentary for the theatrical cut?

That would make sense I guess. I'm sure clearer details will come out soon enough. It's still on run at the cinema.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: JKS1 on Jul 04, 2012, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: Anonymous User on Jul 04, 2012, 06:36:09 AM
Honestly I felt a little bit ripped off already by the movie. I went the first time because it has Scott signature in it. A new Scott's scifi after Alien and Blade Runner. After that, I refused to go for a second viewing because I don't want to give anymore of my money to Fox/Scott.

If they sell an extended cut after this DVD release, I'll feel completely sick.

Im not giving these wankers another penny

Free torrents here I come
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: BANE on Jul 04, 2012, 02:59:24 PM
Knock knock.

Oh, who's that? The cyber division of your local police force come to lay down the law?

Yay for justice!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gazz on Jul 04, 2012, 03:09:19 PM
Actually the bonus features on the first disc add up to 148 minutes.

I guess they just rounded it off to 150 in the description.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: zoidy on Jul 04, 2012, 03:11:22 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Jul 04, 2012, 03:09:19 PM
Actually the bonus features on the first disc add up to 148 minutes.

I guess they just rounded it off to 150 in the description.
Yeah, I suspect the 150 is running time plus additional footage from the extras menu. I'm sure I've seen them totalled like that on the specs for dvds before.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gazz on Jul 04, 2012, 03:21:52 PM
I actually think it's just how much bonus material the disc has.

If you add up the bonus material that has been given a runtime on disc 1 it amounts to 148 minutes overall. I think they've just rounded up to 150 minutes worth of bonus material for the press release.

I'm not sweating it though. I'll wait for the official UK press release before I judge. And if fox are deciding to pull an Avatar like shameless double dip stunt, I'll just wait it out.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: FUBAR1945 on Jul 04, 2012, 04:02:12 PM
Come on guy's don't worry that much, really, we only have to wait for a few year's (30+) and we will get the Director's Cut, or Extended movie.

EDIT: Yeah it comes with ALIEN, ALIENS, Alien³, but again Prometheus is not a prequel, sequel whatever...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Ash 937 on Jul 04, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
I saw the movie for the second time last night.  It's a pretty terrible film. The dialogue and premise are atrocious.  The "fatih" motif that runs throughout is also pretty poorly conceived (and it was done much better in Alien3 btw).  I just can't believe how so many of the right elements came together to make a film that ended up being this bad.

I won't buy any Blu-Ray version of this film unless it comes with a Director's Cut that addresses the shortcomings of the film and at least attempts to fix them.  You can't do that with 15 minutes of deleted scenes, imo.  How Scott was able to accept the theatrical version of this film for mainstream release is beyond my belief. 


Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Dorian Gray on Jul 04, 2012, 04:17:13 PM
One things for sure - I'm going to fanedit the shit out of this.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: robertmartin on Jul 04, 2012, 04:31:36 PM
OMG - i so wanna buy this already.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Jul 04, 2012, 12:34:49 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 07:25:09 AM
Good Christ, I've never seen so much anger over a Bluray...

*cough*predatorultimatehunteredition*cough*

I seem to have missed that bit of controversy.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jul 04, 2012, 04:55:15 PM
DID I Q'S DROP SHARPLY WHILE I WAS AWAY....

Listen up EVERYONE.....

Scott already said in an interview that there will be 20 or so minutes put back into the movie...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Jul 04, 2012, 04:59:29 PM
No he didn't. He said it would be put "in the menu", meaning in the extras. Which it seems is exactly what happened.

So we're still stuck with this steaming pile of a theatrical cut.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Darth Vile on Jul 04, 2012, 05:10:39 PM
I'm really surprised that anyone who out and out dislikes the movie will think it will improve for them with an extended cut. An extended cut won't show Fifield to have aspergers, or expose Milburn as a fake biologist. It won't show Vickers being decapitated or blown up instead of crushed... and we'll still see the proto xeno at the end... I sense those who don't like the movie are preparing themselves to dislike the blu-ray by expecting it to be a different movie - simply with an extended 20/30 mins...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Jul 04, 2012, 05:13:56 PM
No one in this thread is complaining about those things. We're complaining about the edit, which was abysmal. That would at least (hopefully) be fixed somewhat in an extended cut.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: LIG on Jul 04, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
Did anyone seriously think that an extended cut would be put out on the first DVD release?!

Fox will try and cream as much out of this as possible!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 05:33:40 PM
Yeah. I'm just thinking of LotR and King Kong right now. Both had fairly massive extended cuts, and neither of those were the first home video release.

Remember, no one's asking you to buy it as soon as possible. Hell, I loved the movie, but I'm still gonna hold back from purchasing a copy until there's a longer cut.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Jul 04, 2012, 05:53:39 PM
Prepare to wait a loooooong time.

This isn't a barebones "lulz wait for the REAL release later" deal, this thing is a full-blown De Lauzirika special. Fox won't be planning on double dipping this for a while yet. >:(
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: robertmartin on Jul 04, 2012, 05:54:31 PM
Oh no, i am so gonna put this on the christmas list.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: The Hyena on Jul 04, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
I don't see anything wrong with this? Extended Cuts come later anyway.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Jul 04, 2012, 06:03:44 PM
Quote from: JKS1 on Jul 04, 2012, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: Anonymous User on Jul 04, 2012, 06:36:09 AM
Honestly I felt a little bit ripped off already by the movie. I went the first time because it has Scott signature in it. A new Scott's scifi after Alien and Blade Runner. After that, I refused to go for a second viewing because I don't want to give anymore of my money to Fox/Scott.

If they sell an extended cut after this DVD release, I'll feel completely sick.

Im not giving these wankers another penny

Free torrents here I come

There's a certain satisfaction in seeing you hang yourself in every thread.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: TJ Doc on Jul 04, 2012, 06:11:26 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
I seem to have missed that bit of controversy.

CGI Carl Weathers.

That's the gist of it, anway.

Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 04, 2012, 05:10:39 PM
It won't show Vickers being decapitated or blown up instead of crushed...

I would like a post-credits scene of her flattened corpse peeling off the overturned ship and hitting the ground with a tremendous SPLAT.

*smash to black*
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: robertmartin on Jul 04, 2012, 06:28:01 PM
Id love Vickers to remain alive - i just dont see it. Reminds me of that scene in Who Frames Roger Rabbit/Judge Doom. 
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Jul 04, 2012, 06:40:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 04, 2012, 05:10:39 PM
I'm really surprised that anyone who out and out dislikes the movie will think it will improve for them with an extended cut. An extended cut won't show Fifield to have aspergers, or expose Milburn as a fake biologist. It won't show Vickers being decapitated or blown up instead of crushed... and we'll still see the proto xeno at the end... I sense those who don't like the movie are preparing themselves to dislike the blu-ray by expecting it to be a different movie - simply with an extended 20/30 mins...

I do have issues with a few of those things you've mentioned but one of the major issues for me was the terrible editing.  The shots flew by as if I was watching a 2 hour long trailer for what could have been.  I was never given time to appreciate the grand visuals and I didn't get a strong sense of atmosphere.  I really feel like this film wasn't made for the original fans.  It was made for teenagers who get bored with films that take their time and unravel at a beautiful pace.  This was a cut for people who are unfamiliar with the franchise, in the hopes they will end up buying this film and all the others on DVD/Blu-Ray.

You know when people say they could do a better job with something and it's not entirely true?  I've seen novice editing on Youtube better than this.

Too many scenes and shots were cut.  And as for everything else that did actually make it into the film, even those shots were cut down in length.

I'm not spending any money if the initial release is confirmed to have no extended cut.  But I'm not holding my breath.  It seems as if they felt that having a decent amount of extras would suffice for the film itself.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 04, 2012, 06:50:40 PM
I need to know about the behind the scenes documentary, or if there will even be on there aside from the ridiculous 'featurettes.' Anyone know by way of the French Amazon link?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: BANE on Jul 04, 2012, 07:01:28 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Jul 04, 2012, 06:40:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 04, 2012, 05:10:39 PM
I'm really surprised that anyone who out and out dislikes the movie will think it will improve for them with an extended cut. An extended cut won't show Fifield to have aspergers, or expose Milburn as a fake biologist. It won't show Vickers being decapitated or blown up instead of crushed... and we'll still see the proto xeno at the end... I sense those who don't like the movie are preparing themselves to dislike the blu-ray by expecting it to be a different movie - simply with an extended 20/30 mins...

I do have issues with a few of those things you've mentioned but one of the major issues for me was the terrible editing.  The shots flew by as if I was watching a 2 hour long trailer for what could have been.  I was never given time to appreciate the grand visuals and I didn't get a strong sense of atmosphere.  I really feel like this film wasn't made for the original fans.  It was made for teenagers who get bored with films that take their time and unravel at a beautiful pace.  This was a cut for people who are unfamiliar with the franchise, in the hopes they will end up buying this film and all the others on DVD/Blu-Ray.

You know when people say they could do a better job with something and it's not entirely true?  I've seen novice editing on Youtube better than this.

Too many scenes and shots were cut.  And as for everything else that did actually make it into the film, even those shots were cut down in length.

I'm not spending any money if the initial release is confirmed to have no extended cut.  But I'm not holding my breath.  It seems as if they felt that having a decent amount of extras would suffice for the film itself.
That's a wee harsh...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 07:01:41 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Jul 04, 2012, 06:11:26 PM
Quote from: SpaceMarines on Jul 04, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
I seem to have missed that bit of controversy.

CGI Carl Weathers.

That's the gist of it, anway.

I must find this.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Jul 04, 2012, 07:09:26 PM
It's not really a CGI Carl Weathers :laugh:

Though with the amount of hideous DNR slathered all over that transfer, it may as well be.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Alien³ on Jul 04, 2012, 07:12:54 PM
If every member of AVPGalaxy signed a petition for an extended cut release... ;)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Jul 04, 2012, 07:19:01 PM
Quote from: BLAIN on Jul 04, 2012, 07:01:28 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Jul 04, 2012, 06:40:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Jul 04, 2012, 05:10:39 PM
I'm really surprised that anyone who out and out dislikes the movie will think it will improve for them with an extended cut. An extended cut won't show Fifield to have aspergers, or expose Milburn as a fake biologist. It won't show Vickers being decapitated or blown up instead of crushed... and we'll still see the proto xeno at the end... I sense those who don't like the movie are preparing themselves to dislike the blu-ray by expecting it to be a different movie - simply with an extended 20/30 mins...

I do have issues with a few of those things you've mentioned but one of the major issues for me was the terrible editing.  The shots flew by as if I was watching a 2 hour long trailer for what could have been.  I was never given time to appreciate the grand visuals and I didn't get a strong sense of atmosphere.  I really feel like this film wasn't made for the original fans.  It was made for teenagers who get bored with films that take their time and unravel at a beautiful pace.  This was a cut for people who are unfamiliar with the franchise, in the hopes they will end up buying this film and all the others on DVD/Blu-Ray.

You know when people say they could do a better job with something and it's not entirely true?  I've seen novice editing on Youtube better than this.

Too many scenes and shots were cut.  And as for everything else that did actually make it into the film, even those shots were cut down in length.

I'm not spending any money if the initial release is confirmed to have no extended cut.  But I'm not holding my breath.  It seems as if they felt that having a decent amount of extras would suffice for the film itself.
That's a wee harsh...

Maybe my Youtube comment was a little harsh but it's not entirely untrue.  What did you find harsh about my post?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Jul 04, 2012, 07:19:23 PM
They need to at least reincorporate the missing scene or dialogue piece between Shaw's c-section and her subsequent meet up with Weyland.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: BANE on Jul 04, 2012, 07:35:43 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Jul 04, 2012, 07:19:01 PM

Maybe my Youtube comment was a little harsh but it's not entirely untrue.  What did you find harsh about my post?
The YouTube comment was the main qualm I had. But I do think there are several instances in which you could stop and appreciate the visuals, and in which the fast pacing worked very well for tension.

I do, however, share the general sentiment that the movie felt like it was short, what with all that happened in essentially two hours. 2.5 -3 hours would probably have been better, but then again, do you think FOX would have allowed that, what with the R-rating already guaranteeing less money than a PG-13?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: fiveways on Jul 04, 2012, 07:39:34 PM
Quote from: robertmartin on Jul 04, 2012, 06:28:01 PM
Id love Vickers to remain alive - i just dont see it. Reminds me of that scene in Who Frames Roger Rabbit/Judge Doom.

They kinda hinted she might not be dead in an interview.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gazz on Jul 04, 2012, 07:39:47 PM
There will be an extended edition and I imagine it will be with this release. I just don't think Fox are at a point of announcing it just yet and it may be just the thing they are waiting to announce via Comic-con. After all every Alien film has had an extended edition, even if they had to force it like they did Alien Resurrection. Since they're pairing Prometheus with the Alien Anthology I don't see why they wont include a longer version of the film.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: robertmartin on Jul 04, 2012, 07:41:54 PM
Oh no, i wanna have it under my christmas tree (even if it doesnt come with tons of goodies)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Ash 937 on Jul 04, 2012, 07:56:11 PM
Nobody can be sure that an extended cut will be any better than the theatrical cut.  There is no way to qualify whether or not 20 more minutes will improve the film or just be 20 minutes of more garbage like the other 2 hours.

I'm going to wait for some critical reviews of the extended cut to come out before I even consider buying this at all. 
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gazz on Jul 04, 2012, 08:10:59 PM
Considering that I already quite like the theatrical cut I'm not really expecting anything revolutionary, just something that'll give the 3rd act more breathing space and a better pace thus making up for some poor editing decisions. But anyone expecting a different film altogether is surely going to be disappointed.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: fiveways on Jul 04, 2012, 08:18:27 PM
Quote from: Alien³ on Jul 04, 2012, 07:12:54 PM
If every member of AVPGalaxy signed a petition for an extended cut release... ;)

If every member of the forum didn't buy it, they would only be out about $500k USD [averaging it to $30 a bluray] at a retail level.  No idea how much of that Fox would actually see, but I am assume it is pretty small in comparison to the sheer amount of people who will buy it.

In the end fox knows eventually they will get some of our money. 

Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gash on Jul 04, 2012, 10:27:12 PM
I'd have no qualms about buying it as for all it's flaws it's still (potentially) the best film I've seen in a long time, however, if it includes a deleted scenes package then that is something I really don't want to see if it's stuff that would be better placed within the film.

I mean, if a Director's cut came out six months later, I don't want to have seen all the new stuff already, but out of context. Made that mistake with the spoiler heavy trailers.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: FUBAR1945 on Jul 05, 2012, 01:17:14 AM
Quote from: Ash 937 on Jul 04, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
I saw the movie for the second time last night.  It's a pretty terrible film. The dialogue and premise are atrocious.  The "fatih" motif that runs throughout is also pretty poorly conceived (and it was done much better in Alien3 btw).  I just can't believe how so many of the right elements came together to make a film that ended up being this bad.

I won't buy any Blu-Ray version of this film unless it comes with a Director's Cut that addresses the shortcomings of the film and at least attempts to fix them.  You can't do that with 15 minutes of deleted scenes, imo.  How Scott was able to accept the theatrical version of this film for mainstream release is beyond my belief.

money dude, money.

ridleyscootcigar.jpg
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Jul 05, 2012, 02:07:06 AM
Quote from: Gash on Jul 04, 2012, 10:27:12 PM
I'd have no qualms about buying it as for all it's flaws it's still (potentially) the best film I've seen in a long time, however, if it includes a deleted scenes package then that is something I really don't want to see if it's stuff that would be better placed within the film.

I mean, if a Director's cut come out six months later, I don't want to have seen all the new stuff already, but out of context. Made that mistake with the spoiler heavy trailers.

Interesting points there, Gash.

Looking back, the only Alien film who's deleted scenes we'd already seen prior to its Director's Cut/Special Edition/Assembly Cut was Alien itself... but in that case, the Director's Cut was a pretty major theatrical event.

Now, I like Prometheus too, but I don't think the film will warrant that kind of hoopla years down the road. So, based on the logic established so far, I suspect we'll either get our 'Special Edition' on this first disc via seamless branching (with the scenes also on the disc as deleted scenes), or we'll just get the scenes by themselves in the Special Features menu, as described. I don't think Fox will try to sell people a second blu-ray of the film with the deleted scenes we've already seen cut back in.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: departedhero20 on Jul 05, 2012, 05:56:32 PM
 :o no extended cut  :'(ugh not buying the movie then. i left the theaters disappointed because the movie felt rushed and incomplete to me so not buying till an extended edition is announced and if not than >:( f**k prometheus i think the movie could have been a lot better than what we got. Personally i dont like lindelof i think he f**ked up this movie along with fox.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: eyeballkid on Jul 06, 2012, 01:42:59 AM
I'm not buying this. I'm not mad, I'll just wait for the "REAL" version. I waited for the Lord of the Rings extended version, and Avatar. Fool me once...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: NGR01 on Jul 06, 2012, 02:12:06 AM
Quote from: Gash on Jul 04, 2012, 10:27:12 PM
for all it's flaws it's still (potentially) the best film I've seen in a long time

Seriously?
Whats was the one before that?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: LarsVader on Jul 06, 2012, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: NGR01 on Jul 04, 2012, 02:18:14 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Jul 04, 2012, 01:19:52 PM
And I guess most of the sketches, artworks and bts pics will end up in the second screen app, which probably will only be online as long Fox wants it to be.
I don't have an I-pad, like most I guess.
Can't await that someone uploads the app and I can rip it apart.
The Tron app had literally hundreds of pieces of artwork in it.

What this app thing never heard about it?

The idea is that the app syncs up with the movie and gives you background infos about what's happening on screen;
infos, concepts, storyboards, interviews, 3D-turnarounds, featurettes etc...
Lots of cool stuff, but who wants to watch that while watching the movie?
And I'd rather have that stuff on my DVD/BluRay then on a downloadable app.

With Tron it was awfull that the artbook was pure shit and when I ripped the app I suddenly understood where all the cool content went that should have been in the book.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: departedhero20 on Jul 06, 2012, 11:27:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3BV2u8YWps# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3BV2u8YWps#) lol take a look of this ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsCspJFaCMs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsCspJFaCMs#ws) :laugh:
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: psychonaut25 on Jul 06, 2012, 12:12:13 PM
Quote from: departedhero20 on Jul 06, 2012, 11:27:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3BV2u8YWps# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3BV2u8YWps#) lol take a look of this ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsCspJFaCMs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsCspJFaCMs#ws) :laugh:

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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: BonesawT101 on Jul 07, 2012, 10:11:24 AM
On the first disc it says Prometheus 2D (150 bonus) what does 150 bonus mean? 150 minutes worth of special features? or 150 minutes extended version of the film?
Plus it also says Prometheus transmission extended version. what is this? I'd be extremely surprised if there is no extended version of the film released
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Jul 07, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
Via TheDigitalBits.com:
QuoteIn news today, we've heard from our industry sources that yesterday's list of features from Fox's Prometheus Blu-ray (street date TBA) is only partially accurate. The list came from unofficial/early marketing materials seen by Amazon's French online store, and of course was loosely translated into English. So while the general parameters are probably loosely accurate, it's by no means final or official. We're still waiting to see if Fox is going to be ready to officially announce the title's features and street date for next week's Comic-Con, but in any case we would expect more official and accurate details soon. So just consider the list for what it is and salt accordingly.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: TJ Doc on Jul 13, 2012, 07:04:08 PM
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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: psychonaut25 on Jul 13, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
Quote from: TJ Doc on Jul 13, 2012, 07:04:08 PM
Play.com SteelBook (http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/20933547/0/Prometheus-3D/ListingDetails.html) for a somewhat scary £24.

http://p.playserver1.com/ProductImages/7/4/5/3/3/9/0/2/20933547_500x500_3.jpg
http://p.playserver1.com/ProductImages/7/4/5/3/3/9/0/2/20933547_500x500_4.jpg

Quite a good price for a BluRay.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gash on Jul 13, 2012, 07:28:42 PM
Quote from: NGR01 on Jul 06, 2012, 02:12:06 AM
Quote from: Gash on Jul 04, 2012, 10:27:12 PM
for all it's flaws it's still (potentially) the best film I've seen in a long time

Seriously?
Whats was the one before that?

Genre film? Moon probably.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Zenzucht on Aug 07, 2012, 07:01:46 PM
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/search/?searchwhere=db&q=Prometheus (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/search/?searchwhere=db&q=Prometheus)

Commentary by Ridley.

Commentary by Spaihts and Lindelof. I can already see the haters spitting on that commentary..
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Keyes on Aug 07, 2012, 07:23:18 PM
Keep an eye on the thread I started here, I'll be updating when new items appear on the BBFC list :)

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45062.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45062.0)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Zenzucht on Aug 07, 2012, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: Daz85 on Aug 07, 2012, 07:23:18 PM
Keep an eye on the thread I started here, I'll be updating when new items appear on the BBFC list :)

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45062.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45062.0)

I am really sorry, I somehow missed the thread.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Keyes on Aug 07, 2012, 08:49:20 PM
Quote from: Zenzucht on Aug 07, 2012, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: Daz85 on Aug 07, 2012, 07:23:18 PM
Keep an eye on the thread I started here, I'll be updating when new items appear on the BBFC list :)

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45062.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45062.0)

I am really sorry, I somehow missed the thread.

No need to appologise :) Just thought I'd point people in the right direction if they want to see more of what's been revealed lately.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: DaddyYautja on Aug 07, 2012, 09:05:30 PM
Quote from: Zenzucht on Aug 07, 2012, 07:01:46 PM
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/search/?searchwhere=db&q=Prometheus (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/search/?searchwhere=db&q=Prometheus)

Commentary by Ridley.

Commentary by Spaihts and Lindelof. I can already see the haters spitting on that commentary..

Commentary with Spaihts AND Lindelof together?
What is that going to be like? Spaihts saying what he wrote down then Lindelof saying how he made that vage?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 07, 2012, 09:10:30 PM
the ambiguity and vagueness was Ridley's idea, for the most part. I'm assuming that the two writers will talk about how they conveyed Ridley ideas on paper, be it with the original Alien Prequel script or the updated Prometheus script.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Ooze on First on Aug 09, 2012, 06:06:32 PM
Well...4+ hours of behind-the-scenes footage sounds good to me.
The Lindelof commentary should be entertaining.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: psychonaut25 on Aug 09, 2012, 06:23:29 PM
That sounds quite nice,but what I really want to see on BluRay are extra scenes that doesn't made it in the movie.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Keyes on Aug 14, 2012, 06:38:41 PM
Added a big update... including the list of ALTERNATE & DELETED scenes!

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45062.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45062.0)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: zuzuki on Aug 16, 2012, 12:31:33 AM
Why the hell aren't they including all the deleted stuff in the movie? Why keep it separate? Is Ridley headstrong or arrogant and won't admit that the theatrical cut is flawed?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Aug 16, 2012, 12:33:58 AM
Quote from: zuzuki on Aug 16, 2012, 12:31:33 AM
Why the hell aren't they including all the deleted stuff in the movie? Why keep it separate? Is Ridley headstrong or arrogant and won't admit that the theatrical cut is flawed?
Yes.

That or dementia.

Also, the inevitable double-dip a few years from now. Gotta keep milking that fan teet.

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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Face Jockey on Aug 16, 2012, 12:35:19 AM
35 minutes more of Prometheus!!!!!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 16, 2012, 12:38:32 AM
Quote from: zuzuki on Aug 16, 2012, 12:31:33 AM
Why the hell aren't they including all the deleted stuff in the movie? Why keep it separate? Is Ridley headstrong or arrogant and won't admit that the theatrical cut is flawed?

RARRRR!!!  YOU SUCK, SUCCESSFUL PERSON!!!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SiL on Aug 16, 2012, 12:46:01 AM
HOW DARE HE BE HAPPY WITH HIS LABOURS! AAARGH!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Aug 16, 2012, 02:37:37 AM
I really don't think this is a double-dip situation. Of all four prior films, the only one that might be called a double-dip is Alien - because we'd already seen the deleted scenes on their own before the Director's Cut came out... and even then, they threw in some alternate takes and additional shots that we hadn't seen before. So, that's brand-new material.

Scott has the clout to call his own cut. And you can bet he watched Prometheus with everything in and said, "err... some of this has to go". I'm gonna trust his judgement (though for the record, I liked the film).
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 16, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
They were all double-dip.  They released The Alien Legacy 5 disk box set, then four years later released the 9 disk Quad box.

I forgave them 'cos the Quad box was so exhaustively awesome.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Aug 16, 2012, 03:24:00 AM
But the quad, in terms of the films alone, gave us things we didn't already have - Alien DC's (previously unseen) alternate takes of the deleted scenes cut into the film, the Alien3 assembly cut, the special edition of AR... that's new material. And when you're getting a new cut of the film, with footage you've never seen before, I wouldn't call that a double-dip.

So Fox can give us Prometheus's deleted scenes now, and that's cool. But if they simply re-integrate the deleted scenes we've already bought into the film for a later release, that's a double-dip... because we've seen everything. You can bet that a week after this blu-ray is released there will be a fan edit on the internet. Fox isn't going to try to sell us their version of that fan edit. But they might incorporate scenes we've never seen before, so that people might buy it. And that's not a double-dip, in my view... that's new material.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: PsyKore on Aug 16, 2012, 03:25:19 AM
Someone will probably reinsert the deleted material into the film themselves and release a torrent of it. Would make more sense if Fox just released a proper extended version.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 16, 2012, 03:32:16 AM
QuoteI wouldn't call that a double-dip.


I'd call 2 major box set releases in 4 years double dipping.  It's just fortunate that the second release had shit tonne of extras.

QuoteBut if they simply re-integrate the deleted scenes we've already bought into the film for a later release, that's a double-dip... because we've seen everything.

I'd agree.  But I don't believe that'd ever happen.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: echobbase79 on Aug 16, 2012, 03:37:13 AM

How long did it take for Fox to release the AvP Extended Cut? Was it a couple of years? Anyway, I'm sure a extended cut will show up within the next few years or so.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 16, 2012, 03:42:26 AM
Apparently Fox was going to do a special edition of Alien with all the deleted stuff plonked back in and Riddles said he preferred to tweak it himself, actually making the film shorter in the process.  If such a thing were to happen to Prometheus I would assume he'd do the same thing.  It wouldn't be a "let's shove everything back in" job.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: echobbase79 on Aug 16, 2012, 03:44:57 AM

He might not even use all the deleted. I doubt he would use the extended fight since it makes the Engineer look foolish as he stated.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Aug 16, 2012, 03:55:31 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 16, 2012, 03:32:16 AM
QuoteI wouldn't call that a double-dip.


I'd call 2 major box set releases in 4 years double dipping.  It's just fortunate that the second release had shit tonne of extras.

Not trying to be combative, but I wouldn't call it that. If they'd just released the Legacy cuts of the films with those extras added in the Quad, I'd call that double-dipping - because it's all about the movies themselves, for me. I guess it's all about what we call 'extras' - do you call the Assembly Cut of Alien3 an extra? I call it a new, unseen cut of the film, and that's a big deal to me.

Now, the new '30th Anniversary Edition' of Blade Runner: the same film(s), with an added art gallery... that's a double-dip, as far as I'm concerned!  ;D
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 16, 2012, 05:51:47 AM
QuoteI guess it's all about what we call 'extras' - do you call the Assembly Cut of Alien3 an extra?

Anything that's not the main feature is an extra.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Darth Vile on Aug 16, 2012, 09:32:06 AM
I think any re-release of a movie, in any given format, can be considered a double dip - regardless of whether one feels it has merit or not. There is very little real merit in any re-release unless it's to cater for a substantial change in technology or to restore a previous bad print of a film.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: mn2movies on Aug 16, 2012, 07:22:17 PM
they said on facebook today that the dvd will have 35 mins of deleted scenes, they also had a list of scenes, paradise was one of them
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: zuzuki on Aug 16, 2012, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: mn2movies on Aug 16, 2012, 07:22:17 PM
they said on facebook today that the dvd will have 35 mins of deleted scenes, they also had a list of scenes, paradise was one of them
I wonder what this Paradise part will be. Wouldn't it be cool to have the juggernaut reach the destination? Like we see the jockey home world, but only from space, or the ship landing on the planet.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: LarsVader on Aug 17, 2012, 03:29:10 PM
Giant cover images under the spoiler tags, because of their giantness.

Spoiler
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Thanks to seeasea!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 17, 2012, 05:48:51 PM
Well, since I didn't buy the Alien Anthology, I may just buy that :o

Its probably not as nice a set (I'm thinking it'll be along the lines of the Alien/Predator Total Destruction Pack, meaning just repackaging of the old releases), but it'll be cool to have everything in one package.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: LarsVader on Aug 17, 2012, 08:07:07 PM
Another one:
Spoiler
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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 17, 2012, 08:27:44 PM
Can't seem to find it on the American Amazon...I hope we get the same box set.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: zuzuki on Aug 18, 2012, 02:37:42 AM
What's with the old jockey design in the new room and chair design. and notice how he reaches with his hand to those giant handles while in the movie the engineer only reached to the buttons that come before the handles. you can see them in the pictures with the empty chair. I wished they stopped with these mind games. I understand that it's just done by some artist, and has no relation to the universe of the film, but stuff like this give birth to another round of debates and guessing

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F81fnIMSNlOL.jpg&hash=ed2f798988c163b3cafe8c5e085cccdd68c44e44)
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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 18, 2012, 06:51:53 AM
QuoteWhat's with the old jockey design in the new room and chair design.

I think there's a hint in the title plastered across the top of the box.

No need for debates or guessing.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 18, 2012, 06:54:53 AM
I assumed that as well. Evolution being the key word of course.

For once a mismatched box actually makes sense. Or at least, more sense than AVP aliens on the Aliens box, or AR aliens on the Alien 3 box :D
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: LarsVader on Aug 18, 2012, 07:36:32 AM
Isn't that image of the jockey lifted from some fan-kit or something?

*edit*
got it:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.martinocatalano.com%2FSpace_Jockey__painted__full_right.jpg&hash=bf46954f696a4c0e2733399e7f9d336a193f43a0)
http://www.martinocatalano.com/Space-Jockey.html (http://www.martinocatalano.com/Space-Jockey.html)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: xii22loop on Aug 19, 2012, 01:39:21 AM
i wonder if that guy can sue
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Aug 19, 2012, 03:29:11 AM
Quote from: xii22loop on Aug 19, 2012, 01:39:21 AM
i wonder if that guy can sue

Hmm, probably not since his work is based on a design somebody else holds the rights to and he can't claim it as his own.  Is the Jockey on the cover the exact same?


I forgot to ask... just how many versions of the Prometheus DVD/Blu-Ray are there at this moment?  I haven't been keeping up.

Will the Evolution set contain the same features for Prometheus as that on the individual Blu-Ray/DVD set?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: LarsVader on Aug 19, 2012, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Aug 19, 2012, 03:29:11 AM
Quote from: xii22loop on Aug 19, 2012, 01:39:21 AM
i wonder if that guy can sue

Hmm, probably not since his work is based on a design somebody else holds the rights to and he can't claim it as his own.  Is the Jockey on the cover the exact same?


I forgot to ask... just how many versions of the Prometheus DVD/Blu-Ray are there at this moment?  I haven't been keeping up.

Will the Evolution set contain the same features for Prometheus as that on the individual Blu-Ray/DVD set?
German amazon has seven versions at the moment.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Wernest on Aug 19, 2012, 05:11:18 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Aug 19, 2012, 03:29:11 AM
Is the Jockey on the cover the exact same?

Same thing:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOhJOG.jpg&hash=fcc03aecb716a718422a200bb615385905ecec17)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gash on Aug 19, 2012, 06:06:07 PM
The artist was on the hive forum so I'd be surprised if he wasn't here on AVPG somewhere. I'd also be surprised if he doesn't have some claim over his work/photograph being used if he doesn't already know about it.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Aug 19, 2012, 08:05:37 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Aug 19, 2012, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Aug 19, 2012, 03:29:11 AM
Quote from: xii22loop on Aug 19, 2012, 01:39:21 AM
i wonder if that guy can sue

Hmm, probably not since his work is based on a design somebody else holds the rights to and he can't claim it as his own.  Is the Jockey on the cover the exact same?


I forgot to ask... just how many versions of the Prometheus DVD/Blu-Ray are there at this moment?  I haven't been keeping up.

Will the Evolution set contain the same features for Prometheus as that on the individual Blu-Ray/DVD set?
German amazon has seven versions at the moment.

Crikey! I'm going to have trouble deciding.  Also, my cash flow is going to hate me - 3 big DVD/Blu-Ray collector's sets coming up that I'm looking to buy. :'(

Quote from: Wernest on Aug 19, 2012, 05:11:18 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Aug 19, 2012, 03:29:11 AM
Is the Jockey on the cover the exact same?

Same thing:
http://i.imgur.com/OhJOG.jpg

Wow!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 19, 2012, 11:02:41 PM
Quote from: Gash on Aug 19, 2012, 06:06:07 PM
The artist was on the hive forum so I'd be surprised if he wasn't here on AVPG somewhere. I'd also be surprised if he doesn't have some claim over his work/photograph being used if he doesn't already know about it.

Fox lifted chunks of my Alien Timeline website for the blu-ray menus, without so much as a credit.  It's all Fox's IP, as is this.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Sabres21768 on Aug 20, 2012, 03:21:55 AM
Yep, if he decides he wants to complain that Fox is using his sculpt on their cover, Fox will just hit him with a Cease and Desist order for selling those SJ sculpts and, if they feel froggy, sue him for the profits he made off of it.

He should just be flattered that they felt it was good enough to use on the cover.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Wernest on Aug 20, 2012, 10:20:52 AM
The thing is, that it's the fault of the guy that was making the cover. He got the money for making it, but he is just a thief.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 20, 2012, 11:23:11 PM
No, the guy who made the sculpture and is seemingly selling it without a license is the actual 'thief'.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Aug 20, 2012, 11:33:59 PM
Quote from: SM on Aug 20, 2012, 11:23:11 PM
No, the guy who made the sculpture and is seemingly selling it without a license is the actual 'thief'.

I have to agree with this.

Create as much fan art as you want... but to sell custom-made posters/sculptures/artwork etc. for existing properties that you don't hold any rights to is not exactly legal.

They don't owe that artist anything.  His work is merely a product of his own talent and the genius creativity of Giger.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Blacklabel on Aug 20, 2012, 11:57:48 PM
If anything the guy should be proud they used his work on the cover.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gash on Aug 22, 2012, 03:45:11 AM
I can't recall whether he was selling sculpts or if it was a one off for himself. I remember his posting images of it in development and the painting. I still find the use of it on an official DVD a bit dodgy, if only because it is recognisable as a fan sculpt and not the real thing, there are after all a stack of photos of Giger's original from exactly the same angle. Including clean versions minus the latex 'decaying' coat and more cinema-graphic lighting.

I think the issue here is more why wasn't the designer more clued up? If you assume he thought that sculpt was the real thing.

Ultimately it doesn't really matter, most people aren't going to notice. It just knocks my faith in graphic designers.

Actually, what faith in graphic designers? Most of them churn out hideous work thanks to an over-reliance on Photoshop anyway.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 22, 2012, 03:56:52 AM
QuoteI can't recall whether he was selling sculpts or if it was a one off for himself.

A link posted earlier had them for sale.

QuoteI still find the use of it on an official DVD a bit dodgy, if only because it is recognisable as a fan sculpt and not the real thing, there are after all a stack of photos of Giger's original from exactly the same angle.

It's only recognisable to a miniscule handful of fans.  Everyone knows it as Giger's design.  Which of course it is.

QuoteI think the issue here is more why wasn't the designer more clued up?

Maybe he was and didn't care, since it's all Fox's IP still.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Aug 22, 2012, 06:16:14 AM
Quote from: Gash on Aug 22, 2012, 03:45:11 AM
I can't recall whether he was selling sculpts or if it was a one off for himself. I remember his posting images of it in development and the painting. I still find the use of it on an official DVD a bit dodgy, if only because it is recognisable as a fan sculpt and not the real thing, there are after all a stack of photos of Giger's original from exactly the same angle. Including clean versions minus the latex 'decaying' coat and more cinema-graphic lighting.

I think the issue here is more why wasn't the designer more clued up? If you assume he thought that sculpt was the real thing.

Ultimately it doesn't really matter, most people aren't going to notice. It just knocks my faith in graphic designers.

Actually, what faith in graphic designers? Most of them churn out hideous work thanks to an over-reliance on Photoshop anyway.

Graphic designers use Photoshop (and, at times, traditional mediums for plotting out their work).  Painters use canvases.  etc.  There is great design and horrible design - regardless of Photoshop or not.  Just saying.

And I agree with you, the designer should have known and done proper research.  One designer's wrongdoing shouldn't reflect poorly on other designers.

Take a look at some movie posters for instance.  Some are brilliant.  Some look like cheap generic crap created by somebody new to Photoshop.  There will always be that group of people who don't seem to have a clue.  The same way there are horrible actors and actresses in the film industry and then actors and actresses who look and act completely different from film to film.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Squidlovez on Aug 22, 2012, 07:27:47 AM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/NerdyGeek/news/?a=66100 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/NerdyGeek/news/?a=66100)

Possible final artwork, maybe not?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQjF54.jpg&hash=1e15fdd81c42cb7053b87afedc61380f220781db)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Snowdog on Aug 22, 2012, 10:17:09 AM
Quote from: Squidlovez on Aug 22, 2012, 07:27:47 AM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/NerdyGeek/news/?a=66100 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/NerdyGeek/news/?a=66100)

Possible final artwork, maybe not?
http://i.imgur.com/QjF54.jpg

looks ok, but it feels way to scifi-ish. and with that i mean like start trek or something
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: OmegaZilla on Aug 22, 2012, 10:18:03 AM
Not in case.  ;D
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Space Sweeper on Aug 22, 2012, 10:42:26 AM
Quote from: Squidlovez on Aug 22, 2012, 07:27:47 AM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/NerdyGeek/news/?a=66100 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/NerdyGeek/news/?a=66100)

Possible final artwork, maybe not?
http://i.imgur.com/QjF54.jpg
Haven't seen that image anywhere else.

Looks cool though, just not sure if I want that as the front cover... a bit too bright for the movie's overall tone.

[Edit] Nevermind, confirmed legit on the Weyland Investors Twitter feed. It actually looks very cool next to the Alien Blu-Ray cover.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gazz on Aug 22, 2012, 10:45:14 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv107%2Felric300%2FMisc%2FRobocop-ILikeIt.jpg&hash=f2c93d57c4c43c0c33d92a5a72a0e42b5e371154)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: RoaryUK on Aug 22, 2012, 10:49:28 AM
Michael Fassbender also tweeted link to the new Prometheus Blu-Ray/DVD cover designs, which are pretty much identical, yet there's nothing about them on Amazon yet... still, I think they're pretty neat!

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/NerdyGeek/news/?a=66100 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/NerdyGeek/news/?a=66100)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gash on Aug 22, 2012, 12:16:42 PM
Ironically, given what I've just said, I like that. It's enigmatic and makes the engineer look like a godlike statue.

Of film posters generally, seen too many with awful phony shadows across faces that leave me perplexed as to how they get passed fit for public display. Whilst I have no interest in Batman films I recall thinking The Dark Knight poster was pretty good, even if it did reflect the boring trend of teal and orange saturation, but gone are the days of great film posters as art in their own right. It's extremely rare now at least for a poster to reflect the film rather than who is in it.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Darth Vile on Aug 22, 2012, 02:51:59 PM
Quote from: Gash on Aug 22, 2012, 12:16:42 PM
Ironically, given what I've just said, I like that. It's enigmatic and makes the engineer look like a godlike statue.

Of film posters generally, seen too many with awful phony shadows across faces that leave me perplexed as to how they get passed fit for public display. Whilst I have no interest in Batman films I recall thinking The Dark Knight poster was pretty good, even if it did reflect the boring trend of teal and orange saturation, but gone are the days of great film posters as art in their own right. It's extremely rare now at least for a poster to reflect the film rather than who is in it.

I'm trying to think of the last really good movie poster (that I liked anyways)... it would probably be Prometheus (for its minimalism), the last Harry Potter movie and The Dark Knight.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Michael Harper on Aug 22, 2012, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Aug 22, 2012, 02:51:59 PM
Quote from: Gash on Aug 22, 2012, 12:16:42 PM
Ironically, given what I've just said, I like that. It's enigmatic and makes the engineer look like a godlike statue.

Of film posters generally, seen too many with awful phony shadows across faces that leave me perplexed as to how they get passed fit for public display. Whilst I have no interest in Batman films I recall thinking The Dark Knight poster was pretty good, even if it did reflect the boring trend of teal and orange saturation, but gone are the days of great film posters as art in their own right. It's extremely rare now at least for a poster to reflect the film rather than who is in it.

I'm trying to think of the last really good movie poster (that I liked anyways)... it would probably be Prometheus (for its minimalism), the last Harry Potter movie and The Dark Knight.

Take Shelter has a pretty awesome poster, I think.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: BAD_ASS_MOFO on Aug 23, 2012, 02:52:15 PM
looks cool. love the engineers face
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Zenzucht on Aug 23, 2012, 06:12:06 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Aug 22, 2012, 10:45:14 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/elric300/Misc/Robocop-ILikeIt.jpg

That's from the Robocop, right? The guy then turned into soup, right?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Magegg on Aug 23, 2012, 08:32:05 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81wu8tmKLGL.jpg (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81wu8tmKLGL.jpg)

I would buy something like that if it left Alien 3 and 4 out of it  :-\
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: eyeballkid on Aug 24, 2012, 01:31:23 AM
I like it, but I'll wait for the extended edition.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Aug 24, 2012, 01:32:45 PM
http://www.discshop.se/filmer/bluray/prometheus_to_alien_collectors_edition_9_disc_blu_ray/P101697 (http://www.discshop.se/filmer/bluray/prometheus_to_alien_collectors_edition_9_disc_blu_ray/P101697)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.discshop.se%2Fimg%2Ffilmer_foton%2Fmini_101697_15.jpg&hash=621910aac58bc4db307f0e8394c7e55cf91056fc)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Keyes on Aug 24, 2012, 01:54:03 PM
We're getting it in the UK too: http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/35601967/0/Prometheus-To-Alien-The-Evolution-Boxset/ListingDetails.html (http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/35601967/0/Prometheus-To-Alien-The-Evolution-Boxset/ListingDetails.html)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fp.playserver1.com%2FProductImages%2F7%2F6%2F9%2F1%2F0%2F6%2F5%2F3%2F35601967_500x500_1.jpg&hash=3b575f8abeea4e14445d7afcaf73a9e91f0aafad)

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- Prometheus Collectors Edition 3D (includes both 2D and 3D BD)
- Weyland Corporation T-Shirt
- 'Art of Prometheus' Exclusive Book Extract
- Art-Cards
- Poster
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 24, 2012, 01:57:00 PM
Wow, that set looks amazing. I'm seriously considering shelling out the cash for it (assuming it gets an America release, that is. Can't find anything on the American Amazon).
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Snowdog on Aug 24, 2012, 02:01:41 PM
I want just a Prometheus collectors edition, without the alien movies cuz i already have them in a collectors edition
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Aug 24, 2012, 02:23:56 PM
Quote from: Daz85 on Aug 24, 2012, 01:54:03 PM
We're getting it in the UK too: http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/35601967/0/Prometheus-To-Alien-The-Evolution-Boxset/ListingDetails.html (http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/35601967/0/Prometheus-To-Alien-The-Evolution-Boxset/ListingDetails.html)

http://p.playserver1.com/ProductImages/7/6/9/1/0/6/5/3/35601967_500x500_1.jpg

http://p.playserver1.com/ProductImages/7/6/9/1/0/6/5/3/35601967_500x500_2.jpg

- Prometheus Collectors Edition 3D (includes both 2D and 3D BD)
- Weyland Corporation T-Shirt
- 'Art of Prometheus' Exclusive Book Extract
- Art-Cards
- Poster
Wow, look at those magic double-dip doo-dads! What, no vial of Martian piss?

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 24, 2012, 01:57:00 PM
Wow, that set looks amazing. I'm seriously considering shelling out the cash for it (assuming it gets an America release, that is. Can't find anything on the American Amazon).
Likely won't get an American release, just like the Anthology slim packs, etc. Do you not already have the Anthology set?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 24, 2012, 02:29:32 PM
Nah, never got around to getting the Anthology, so I figured that would be an adequate substitute. Guess I'll have to get the Anthology and Prometheus separately then, since its seeming unlikely I'll be able to get this.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Space Sweeper on Aug 24, 2012, 02:32:03 PM
I don't have the Anthology set either. And I don't think I'll be getting this, because if there's a sequel to Prometheus, it won't fit with the rest of the set.

Yeah, that's buyer OCD.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Aug 24, 2012, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 24, 2012, 02:29:32 PM
Nah, never got around to getting the Anthology
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Aug 24, 2012, 02:32:03 PM
I don't have the Anthology set either.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lguhpnRbSQ1qzbl7f.gif&hash=fd1b23facb6c4fe8a4921937bab47be744ff6e6f)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: boostedlsj on Aug 24, 2012, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: SM on Aug 19, 2012, 11:02:41 PM
Quote from: Gash on Aug 19, 2012, 06:06:07 PM
The artist was on the hive forum so I'd be surprised if he wasn't here on AVPG somewhere. I'd also be surprised if he doesn't have some claim over his work/photograph being used if he doesn't already know about it.

Fox lifted chunks of my Alien Timeline website for the blu-ray menus, without so much as a credit.  It's all Fox's IP, as is this.
\

Really? What Alien Timeline are you speaking of. That's very interesting
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Magegg on Aug 24, 2012, 04:56:56 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Aug 24, 2012, 02:32:03 PM
I don't have the Anthology set either. And I don't think I'll be getting this, because if there's a sequel to Prometheus, it won't fit with the rest of the set.

Yep. For example, I wonder who was stupid enough to buy that 2003 DVD box set that included Star Wars episodes I, II, IV, V and VI.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: LarsVader on Aug 24, 2012, 06:20:01 PM
The artbook thingy is redundant to me,
I have all the artcards in hi-res on my computer,
and the shirt definitive won't fit me.

Not that excited anymore.

The only cool thing is the poster. 




I just took a much closer look at the poster...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fp.playserver1.com%2FProductImages%2F7%2F6%2F9%2F1%2F0%2F6%2F5%2F3%2F35601967_700x700min_2.jpg&hash=b2b1c5982023ea90484eb5325a20a9074a689062)

it says:
QuoteFROM DIRECTOR RIDLEY SCOTT
PROMETHEUS
DIRECTOR'S SPECIAL EDITION

DIRECTOR'S SPECIAL EDITION

D I R E C T O R ' S   S P E C I A L   E D I T I O N

D  I  R  E  C  T  O  R  '  S     S  P  E  C  I  A  L     E  D  I  T  I  O  N

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: JaaayDee on Aug 24, 2012, 07:26:58 PM
QuoteThey say the devil's water

It ain't so sweet

Don't have to drink it right now

But you can go ahead and dip your feet

Every once in a while, hey

Every once in a while

Woo
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Aug 24, 2012, 07:36:29 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Aug 24, 2012, 06:20:01 PM
I just took a much closer look at the poster...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fp.playserver1.com%2FProductImages%2F7%2F6%2F9%2F1%2F0%2F6%2F5%2F3%2F35601967_700x700min_2.jpg&hash=b2b1c5982023ea90484eb5325a20a9074a689062)

it says:
QuoteFROM DIRECTOR RIDLEY SCOTT
PROMETHEUS
DIRECTOR'S SPECIAL EDITION

DIRECTOR'S SPECIAL EDITION

D I R E C T O R ' S   S P E C I A L   E D I T I O N

D  I  R  E  C  T  O  R  '  S     S  P  E  C  I  A  L     E  D  I  T  I  O  N

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
You missed the tiny line underneath it in fine print that read "LOL, just kidding suckers!"
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Blacklabel on Aug 24, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
will it feature ALL the deleted footage?

O.o.

Must watch!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gazz on Aug 24, 2012, 07:48:18 PM
NOW I'm happy. Didn't think they would be releasing it anymore to be honest.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Aug 24, 2012, 08:30:34 PM
QuoteHOW FAR WOULD YOU GO TO GET ANSWERS?
Prometheus Experience Blu-ray 3D with this Director's Special Edition and be amazed by the spectacular
effects with over 3 hours of extras, including an alternate beginning and end.

http://www.bol.com/nl/p/prometheus/1002004012518613/ (http://www.bol.com/nl/p/prometheus/1002004012518613/)

To me it sounds like the Director's Special Edition refers to the whole package itself, not a potential director's cut per se.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 24, 2012, 08:36:42 PM
Ehhh, that's a terrible way of advertising the set...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: OmegaZilla on Aug 24, 2012, 08:47:04 PM
Should've called it director's special assembly edition cut.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: LarsVader on Aug 24, 2012, 10:13:20 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Aug 24, 2012, 08:30:34 PM
QuoteHOW FAR WOULD YOU GO TO GET ANSWERS?
Prometheus Experience Blu-ray 3D with this Director's Special Edition and be amazed by the spectacular
effects with over 3 hours of extras, including an alternate beginning and end.

http://www.bol.com/nl/p/prometheus/1002004012518613/ (http://www.bol.com/nl/p/prometheus/1002004012518613/)

To me it sounds like the Director's Special Edition refers to the whole package itself, not a potential director's cut per se.
But why not put that on the packaging (I know, *artwork subject to change) but just on the poster inside?



And do you see the rating on the package?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F916CCRjKB%252BL._AA500_.jpg&hash=5346120f9969ce868ddf1d7fd3c04eae71ffed64)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Magegg on Aug 24, 2012, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Aug 24, 2012, 08:30:34 PM
QuoteHOW FAR WOULD YOU GO TO GET ANSWERS?
Prometheus Experience Blu-ray 3D with this Director's Special Edition and be amazed by the spectacular
effects with over 3 hours of extras, including an alternate beginning and end.

http://www.bol.com/nl/p/prometheus/1002004012518613/ (http://www.bol.com/nl/p/prometheus/1002004012518613/)

To me it sounds like the Director's Special Edition refers to the whole package itself, not a potential director's cut per se.

No
http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/prometheus-alien-box-set/ (http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/prometheus-alien-box-set/)

It says 15 mins. of cut and alternative scenes in the Prometheus disc. And if you look to details, it will contain pretty much EVERYTHING about Prometheus.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Aug 24, 2012, 10:43:55 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Aug 24, 2012, 10:13:20 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Aug 24, 2012, 08:30:34 PM
QuoteHOW FAR WOULD YOU GO TO GET ANSWERS?
Prometheus Experience Blu-ray 3D with this Director's Special Edition and be amazed by the spectacular
effects with over 3 hours of extras, including an alternate beginning and end.

http://www.bol.com/nl/p/prometheus/1002004012518613/ (http://www.bol.com/nl/p/prometheus/1002004012518613/)

To me it sounds like the Director's Special Edition refers to the whole package itself, not a potential director's cut per se.
But why not put that on the packaging (I know, *artwork subject to change) but just on the poster inside?

No idea but if anything that would indicate that there's indeed no director's cut included? They usually make sure to advertise that stuff in the cover art. I'm just guessing tho.

Maybe they simply put the "Director's" in there to distinguish this blu-ray set from the other Prometheus Special Edition?

Quote from: Magegg on Aug 24, 2012, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Aug 24, 2012, 08:30:34 PM
QuoteHOW FAR WOULD YOU GO TO GET ANSWERS?
Prometheus Experience Blu-ray 3D with this Director's Special Edition and be amazed by the spectacular
effects with over 3 hours of extras, including an alternate beginning and end.

http://www.bol.com/nl/p/prometheus/1002004012518613/ (http://www.bol.com/nl/p/prometheus/1002004012518613/)

To me it sounds like the Director's Special Edition refers to the whole package itself, not a potential director's cut per se.

No
http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/prometheus-alien-box-set/ (http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/prometheus-alien-box-set/)

It says 15 mins. of cut and alternative scenes in the Prometheus disc. And if you look to details, it will contain pretty much EVERYTHING about Prometheus.

That says nothing about a Director's Cut I'm afraid. Just the alternate/deleted scenes that we already heard about weeks ago.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: antovolk on Aug 24, 2012, 10:56:24 PM
UPDATE re: US covers/ combo releases

http://weylandinvestors.com/post/30129503343/update-regarding-the-prometheus-bd-dvd-covers (http://weylandinvestors.com/post/30129503343/update-regarding-the-prometheus-bd-dvd-covers)

in short, Hungarian DVD cover is standard US BD/DVD/Digital release, Engineer BD art is US Collector's edition. May differ in other countries.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m9a7hvdfGu1rrn3x9o1_400.jpg&hash=2b7d0facf2447de9bc5c41cd50f64c4b45fee514)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m9a7hvdfGu1rrn3x9o2_400.jpg&hash=0266c8b67304fccf88a2ca839fee47e1d990afc4)

Thanks to Weyland Chronicles (http://www.weylandchronicles.com/2012/08/check-out-the-full-packaging-for-the-prometheus-to-alien-evolution-blu-ray-boxset/ (http://www.weylandchronicles.com/2012/08/check-out-the-full-packaging-for-the-prometheus-to-alien-evolution-blu-ray-boxset/)) and seeasea for info
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Aug 24, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
What would those 4 discs be for? Unless it's been answered already.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Sabres21768 on Aug 24, 2012, 11:09:49 PM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Aug 24, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
What would those 4 discs be for? Unless it's been answered already.

3D Blu-ray...Blu-ray...DVD...Extras
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: antovolk on Aug 24, 2012, 11:19:58 PM
And if you caught the update on the post, the deleted scenes/Spaihts' script/extended virals (in case of the TEDtalk and the new unreleased 'Transmission') are on the 2D Blu ray disc in the 'Evolution' set and NOT on the bonus disc which is only with 'Evolution' (Prometheus disc 3) and the Collector's (disc 4 extras), therefore it should be with the normal Blu-ray releases internationally.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Aug 24, 2012, 11:43:47 PM
Quote from: SM on Aug 19, 2012, 11:02:41 PM
Quote from: Gash on Aug 19, 2012, 06:06:07 PM
The artist was on the hive forum so I'd be surprised if he wasn't here on AVPG somewhere. I'd also be surprised if he doesn't have some claim over his work/photograph being used if he doesn't already know about it.

Fox lifted chunks of my Alien Timeline website for the blu-ray menus, without so much as a credit.  It's all Fox's IP, as is this.

You have a website? Got a link?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Aug 25, 2012, 12:49:51 AM
I can't find his timeline without it linking to something else (http://time.absoluteavp (http://time.absoluteavp).).

Here's SM's encyclopedia though: http://enc.absoluteavp.com/ (http://enc.absoluteavp.com/)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 25, 2012, 01:10:38 AM
After several failed attempts to contact the admins at AbsoluteAvP, I'm in the process of moving the Timeline and Encyclopedia to another host.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Aug 25, 2012, 02:26:56 AM
That host should be right here.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Aug 25, 2012, 03:09:26 AM
Very cool. The other link does not work for me although I think I have found it via google.

Nice work SM.

Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ChrisPachi on Aug 25, 2012, 11:43:41 AM
I am totally jazzed about this new box set. My last Alien box-set was pretty awesome, but it only had one shit movie in it. This new Alien box-set has two shit movies in it! It's a must buy.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Aug 25, 2012, 11:53:02 AM
I'm a little confused... is it 15 minutes of deleted scenes or 30+ minutes of deleted scenes?  When I added up the deleted scenes information that was released, it came to over 30 minutes of footage.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gazz on Aug 25, 2012, 11:58:37 AM
Sounds to me that Fox may decide to hold back the remaining deleted scenes for use in a later special edition or something. Afterall, if they provide ALL the additional material with this package it'll provide consumers with the material to construct their own cuts, thus pipping Fox to the post.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: T Dog on Aug 25, 2012, 12:02:16 PM
Spaihts' script, now that's what I want. Hopefully someone will be kind enough to upload it because I doubt I'll be able to but this DVD.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Aug 25, 2012, 12:04:48 PM
Quote from: Gazz on Aug 25, 2012, 11:58:37 AM
Sounds to me that Fox may decide to hold back the remaining deleted scenes for use in a later special edition or something. Afterall, if they provide ALL the additional material with this package it'll provide consumers with the material to construct their own cuts, thus pipping Fox to the post.

If that is the case, f**k 'em. I'm not interested in buying something with only half of the missing footage available.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: departedhero20 on Aug 25, 2012, 12:57:31 PM
im extremely dissapointed with this release of prometheus i like many of u wished for and wanted and extended cut not some half ass movie i hate fox sometimes this is a no buy for me i rather wait if an extended cut is announced or released some time next yeay.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 25, 2012, 03:00:29 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Aug 25, 2012, 11:53:02 AM
I'm a little confused... is it 15 minutes of deleted scenes or 30+ minutes of deleted scenes?  When I added up the deleted scenes information that was released, it came to over 30 minutes of footage.

It could be that the deleted scenes list has about 30 minutes of footage, but only 15+ minutes is new footage. I'm sure a lot of it is extended versions of scenes that are in the movie, with some original bits staying in to give it context.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Darth Vile on Aug 25, 2012, 06:15:24 PM
I'm perplexed as to why some are disappointed by this release. Surely you should be buying it for the movie in the first instance. If you don't like the movie, why would you buy it for extras/deleted scenes??? It would be like me complaining about Howard the Duck not having a Director's Cut.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 25, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
I guess mainly because a lot of people who were disappointed recognized that the film wasn't all bad, and that it had a lot of unrealized potential that could be potentially fixed in an extended cut.

Personally, I liked the film, but it did suffer from a few problems that could be fixed and touched up a bit in an extended version.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Darth Vile on Aug 25, 2012, 09:48:54 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 25, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
I guess mainly because a lot of people who were disappointed recognized that the film wasn't all bad, and that it had a lot of unrealized potential that could be potentially fixed in an extended cut.

Personally, I liked the film, but it did suffer from a few problems that could be fixed and touched up a bit in an extended version.
I suppose... but that sounds like a classic case of setting yourself up to be disappointed.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 25, 2012, 10:05:33 PM
Quote from: departedhero20 on Aug 25, 2012, 12:57:31 PM
im extremely dissapointed with this release of prometheus i like many of u wished for and wanted and extended cut not some half ass movie i hate fox sometimes this is a no buy for me i rather wait if an extended cut is announced or released some time next yeay.

If you go by Alien or Blade Runner, you might be waiting a while.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Aug 25, 2012, 11:48:22 PM
I'll be buying the single disc because this will look and sound amazing on Blu Ray.

I have the Alien set on Blu already. I can't see many people buying the super dooper wooper set.

Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Magegg on Aug 26, 2012, 12:05:46 AM
It says it contains the deleted scenes!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Darth Vile on Aug 26, 2012, 06:18:09 AM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 25, 2012, 11:48:22 PM
I'll be buying the single disc because this will look and sound amazing on Blu Ray.

I have the Alien set on Blu already. I can't see many people buying the super dooper wooper set.
Same as... The only way I'd be interested is if it was a streamlined boxset which took less space on my shelf (but that's from a purely practical perspective).
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: PsyKore on Aug 26, 2012, 09:48:07 AM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 25, 2012, 11:48:22 PM
I'll be buying the single disc because this will look and sound amazing on Blu Ray.

I have the Alien set on Blu already. I can't see many people buying the super dooper wooper set.

Yeah, and I don't think most fans would bother with this full box set because there's still Prometheus 2 to come yet..
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: bobkind3 on Aug 26, 2012, 10:27:30 AM
If you look at the source of the "15 minutes of deleted scenes" it come from an Amazon.fr page that no longer lists the boxset nor these details. I would therefore discount that as a reliable source and would go with the BBFC listing 30+ minutes as these are extra submitted by the company expressly to be included on this  home video release. If this material was withheld for a later director's cut it would still need to be resubmitted so I can't see them paying to have it classified here only to withhold it to pay for a reclassification as part of a longer cut. Therefore I'm going with the long trailed promise of 30 minutes + of deleted footage.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: departedhero20 on Aug 26, 2012, 02:08:21 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 25, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
I guess mainly because a lot of people who were disappointed recognized that the film wasn't all bad, and that it had a lot of unrealized potential that could be potentially fixed in an extended cut.

Personally, I liked the film, but it did suffer from a few problems that could be fixed and touched up a bit in an extended version.

Exactly my point. those were my thoughts exactly at least someone understands my point it isnt the fact that the movie is bad or crap is just that it feels rushed incomplete and it times sort of dumbed down.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: fiveways on Aug 26, 2012, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: departedhero20 on Aug 26, 2012, 02:08:21 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 25, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
I guess mainly because a lot of people who were disappointed recognized that the film wasn't all bad, and that it had a lot of unrealized potential that could be potentially fixed in an extended cut.

Personally, I liked the film, but it did suffer from a few problems that could be fixed and touched up a bit in an extended version.

Exactly my point. those were my thoughts exactly at least someone understands my point it isnt the fact that the movie is bad or crap is just that it feels rushed incomplete and it times sort of dumbed down.

The dumbed down feeling is I think Ridley trying to appeal to a wider market.  The mainstream film market is so used to being fed pablum that is has pretty much forced everyone to dumb their films down to drool cup levels in hopes of making a huge amount of money.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 26, 2012, 10:28:12 PM
Yeah 'cos Alien was so incredibly cerebral...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 27, 2012, 03:02:03 AM
To me, I felt let down by promethues because I wanted Promethues 1 ,2 and 3 in Prometheus.
I don't care if they made it 6hours. I wanted everything. For 19.99.
NOw i got to wait 4 or 6 years for the next one :(


Quote from: fiveways on Aug 26, 2012, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: departedhero20 on Aug 26, 2012, 02:08:21 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 25, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
I guess mainly because a lot of people who were disappointed recognized that the film wasn't all bad, and that it had a lot of unrealized potential that could be potentially fixed in an extended cut.

Personally, I liked the film, but it did suffer from a few problems that could be fixed and touched up a bit in an extended version.

Exactly my point. those were my thoughts exactly at least someone understands my point it isnt the fact that the movie is bad or crap is just that it feels rushed incomplete and it times sort of dumbed down.

The dumbed down feeling is I think Ridley trying to appeal to a wider market.  The mainstream film market is so used to being fed pablum that is has pretty much forced everyone to dumb their films down to drool cup levels in hopes of making a huge amount of money.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Aug 27, 2012, 06:07:23 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 27, 2012, 03:02:03 AM
To me, I felt let down by promethues because I wanted Promethues 1 ,2 and 3 in Prometheus.
I don't care if they made it 6hours. I wanted everything. For 19.99.
NOw i got to wait 4 or 6 years for the next one :(


Not very demanding are you?  :o
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: echobbase79 on Aug 28, 2012, 12:28:25 AM

So I just want to get this straight the 4-disc set will be the only one to have all the special features?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 28, 2012, 12:34:31 AM
I hope they put everything on the 3 disc one. If I had to guess, the fourth disc would just be the 3D disc; I would hope they don't relegate certain bonus features to that set.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: echobbase79 on Aug 28, 2012, 12:40:02 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 28, 2012, 12:34:31 AM
I hope they put everything on the 3 disc one. If I had to guess, the fourth disc would just be the 3D disc; I would hope they don't relegate certain bonus features to that set.

I know. I don't want the 3D version of the movie since I don't have a 3D TV.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 28, 2012, 12:41:18 AM
Same. I honestly wish that they would just do a one disc Blu Ray. I mean, having the DVD and Digital Copy is nice, sure, but I'd be more than happy with just the Blu.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Aug 28, 2012, 07:04:10 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 28, 2012, 12:41:18 AM
Same. I honestly wish that they would just do a one disc Blu Ray. I mean, having the DVD and Digital Copy is nice, sure, but I'd be more than happy with just the Blu.

They will, either that or the price will plummet if you wait. In Australia you can get the combo packs a lot cheaper in discount supermarkets like Big W or K mart (our version of Walmart).

These DVD/Combo/Digital packs are a dead set rip off if you ask me. Especially in this day and age of torrent abuse.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 28, 2012, 07:14:18 AM
I'd likely get the DVD/BR/Digital Copy.  Not fussed about the digital copy, but the BR is good for the big telly with the surround and all that, and the DVD is handy for watching in other rooms.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Space Sweeper on Aug 28, 2012, 07:17:44 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 27, 2012, 03:02:03 AM
To me, I felt let down by promethues because I wanted Promethues 1 ,2 and 3 in Prometheus.
1/3 ain't bad.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 28, 2012, 07:21:44 AM
 :D
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Master on Aug 28, 2012, 08:54:11 AM
I have Alien anthology so i won`t but this big boxset. I`m very interested in cut material though, but don`t think FOX will let it in first relese of the film. Not re-inserted at least.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Aug 29, 2012, 01:30:39 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 28, 2012, 07:14:18 AM
I'd likely get the DVD/BR/Digital Copy.  Not fussed about the digital copy, but the BR is good for the big telly with the surround and all that, and the DVD is handy for watching in other rooms.

Depends the price though. JB hi fi tried to flog Captain America combo pack for $45  :o

I'd imagine this will be much the same since it's 3D.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 29, 2012, 01:51:56 AM
Sod that!

I'll just wait and see what they come out with and work it out then.  Can't imagine I'll go for 3D either.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: LarsVader on Aug 29, 2012, 07:41:48 AM
I don't have a bluray player nor do I have a flat-screen TV,
but I am considering to buy the anthology/3D combo because these movies are of somewhat importance to me and the day will come probably sooner then later when we will all have a 3D-TV standing in our living rooms.
And I don't wanna buy it all over again then.
So maybe I will not able be able to watch it in 3D in the next few years but on that day I that get a 3D screen I'll be happy to already have Prometheus in 3D standing on my shelve.

That string of thought does not go for every movie I am going to buy,
I am happy with cheap secondhand DVDs from amazon marketplace,
but in case of Prometheus or the Alien movies it's different.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Aug 29, 2012, 02:13:29 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Aug 29, 2012, 07:41:48 AM
So maybe I will not able be able to watch it in 3D in the next few years but on that day I that get a 3D screen I'll be happy to already have Prometheus in 3D standing on my shelve.

That's a good way to go, Lars. The 3D combo isn't that much more expensive. When Tron: Legacy came out, I bought the 3D combo 'cause I knew I'd upgrade eventually. And now next week, in advance of Prometheus, I'm gonna be buying my first 3Dtv... and I'll have Tron to watch immediately and make sure everything is calibrated correctly!  :)

[EDIT: I should say I'm not talking necessarily about the 'Prom to Alien' box, here... anybody who already has the Alien Anthology set and buys that box is MENTAL!  :D]
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Michael Harper on Aug 29, 2012, 05:18:38 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 29, 2012, 02:13:29 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Aug 29, 2012, 07:41:48 AM
So maybe I will not able be able to watch it in 3D in the next few years but on that day I that get a 3D screen I'll be happy to already have Prometheus in 3D standing on my shelve.

That's a good way to go, Lars. The 3D combo isn't that much more expensive. When Tron: Legacy came out, I bought the 3D combo 'cause I knew I'd upgrade eventually. And now next week, in advance of Prometheus, I'm gonna be buying my first 3Dtv... and I'll have Tron to watch immediately and make sure everything is calibrated correctly!  :)

[EDIT: I should say I'm not talking necessarily about the 'Prom to Alien' box, here... anybody who already has the Alien Anthology set and buys that box is MENTAL!  :D]

My sadly lost my Alien Anthology set around February. Me and a couple of friends had planned on sitting and pulling an all-nighter and watching the four films. We decided on the way to get out of the taxi and order take-away - a nice big munch of burgers, and fries, and all over kinds of fatty goodness! When we were being served a gang came in and started shit; we were forced to run, leaving behind our food and the box set. We were in a bad area, so there was no waiting around to get our food and make sure I had all my belongings - it was basically just run and hope you're faster than the gang.

Sadly, we never were able to watch the 4 Alien films on Blu-Ray that night - we had to resort to the DVD's.

So...I will be buying this Prometheus to Alien set... but otherwise, I wouldn't have been coughing up another chunk of money for something I already own just because it has awesome artwork. It would be extremely pointless.

On another note, I hope we get a few clips for the Deleted Scenes released online soon - sort of like what they've been doing with The Avengers.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Virgil on Aug 29, 2012, 06:30:14 PM
Good point. I'd imagine in the next couple of weeks we'll be seeing some kind of Viral/Advertisement regarding the DVD/Blu ray/3D super spectacular youalreadyownthesefilmsbutyoullnodoubtbuythemagainLOLyouownalienresurrectionfourtimesnow box set.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Gash on Aug 29, 2012, 10:10:58 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Aug 24, 2012, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 24, 2012, 02:29:32 PM
Nah, never got around to getting the Anthology
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Aug 24, 2012, 02:32:03 PM
I don't have the Anthology set either.
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It's a shame the extras for Alien aren't on it's standalone Bluray, cos I never wanted the sequels.


Quote from: ChrisPachi on Aug 25, 2012, 11:43:41 AM
I am totally jazzed about this new box set. My last Alien box-set was pretty awesome, but it only had one shit movie in it. This new Alien box-set has two shit movies in it! It's a must buy.

Aliens and Alien Resurrection. Yeah.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Aug 29, 2012, 10:22:15 PM
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Quote from: Gash on Aug 29, 2012, 10:10:58 PM
It's a shame the extras for Alien aren't on it's standalone Bluray, cos I never wanted the sequels.
Quote from: Gash on Aug 29, 2012, 10:10:58 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Aug 25, 2012, 11:43:41 AM
I am totally jazzed about this new box set. My last Alien box-set was pretty awesome, but it only had one shit movie in it. This new Alien box-set has two shit movies in it! It's a must buy.

Aliens and Alien Resurrection. Yeah.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 29, 2012, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Aug 24, 2012, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 24, 2012, 02:29:32 PM
Nah, never got around to getting the Anthology
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Aug 24, 2012, 02:32:03 PM
I don't have the Anthology set either.
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I own NONE of the Alien films.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Aug 29, 2012, 10:29:04 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 29, 2012, 10:28:05 PM
I own NONE of the Alien films.
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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Aug 30, 2012, 02:11:58 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Aug 29, 2012, 07:41:48 AM
I don't have a bluray player nor do I have a flat-screen TV,
but I am considering to buy the anthology/3D combo because these movies are of somewhat importance to me and the day will come probably sooner then later when we will all have a 3D-TV standing in our living rooms.
And I don't wanna buy it all over again then.
So maybe I will not able be able to watch it in 3D in the next few years but on that day I that get a 3D screen I'll be happy to already have Prometheus in 3D standing on my shelve.

That string of thought does not go for every movie I am going to buy,
I am happy with cheap secondhand DVDs from amazon marketplace,
but in case of Prometheus or the Alien movies it's different.

Seriously, as a bit of a techno geek, I'd spend the extra money from a 3D TV to just get a better quality regular Plasma/LED. Catalog wise, 3D movie's only occupy about 1% of releases and it'll probably stay like that forever. 

Clunky glasses, viewing angels and distances, overpriced disks. Plus regular TV will for the most part remain in 2D.

3D is ok as a gimmick to sell some extra tickets.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Aug 30, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
I was pretty ambivalent about 3D until I saw Prometheus, which was impressive enough, technically, to get me on board. Plus, 3D gaming appeals to me.

3D definitely is the future, but you're right in other regards - the conservative buyer should wait until we have no-glasses 3D (it's definitely coming). But in the meantime, I'm going downtown to buy a 3Dtv today!  ;D
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Zenzucht on Aug 30, 2012, 11:30:28 AM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 30, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
I was pretty ambivalent about 3D until I saw Prometheus, which was impressive enough, technically, to get me on board. Plus, 3D gaming appeals to me.

3D definitely is the future, but you're right in other regards - the conservative buyer should wait until we have no-glasses 3D (it's definitely coming). But in the meantime, I'm going downtown to buy a 3Dtv today!  ;D

Coincidentally, I saw Avatar in local, newly digitalised cinema few days before Prometheus.. Prometheus thus set a 3D standard for me. Beautiful, plastic visuals.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Aug 30, 2012, 12:50:54 PM
Meh, I've never been impressed by 3D.  The "3D" in Avatar was subtle and "cool" but not long after I left the cinema, I had already forgotten what was in "3D" and what wasn't.

3D adds nothing of value to a film, at least for me.  I've been mesmerised by 2D films for years.

If a film is bad, it's bad - regardless of being in 3D or not.  The same goes for a film which is brilliant.

Look around you, that's 3D.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Aug 30, 2012, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Aug 30, 2012, 12:50:54 PMIf a film is bad, it's bad - regardless of being in 3D or not.  The same goes for a film which is brilliant.

Did anybody say that this is not so?

Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Aug 30, 2012, 12:50:54 PMLook around you, that's 3D.

Wow.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Aug 30, 2012, 01:35:46 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 30, 2012, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Aug 30, 2012, 12:50:54 PMIf a film is bad, it's bad - regardless of being in 3D or not.  The same goes for a film which is brilliant.

Did anybody say that this is not so?

Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Aug 30, 2012, 12:50:54 PMLook around you, that's 3D.

Wow.

It was more of a general statement since the topic of 3D was brought up.  It wasn't directed specifically at you.  And, yes, there are people who believe that 3D adds to a film.

I'm not attacking anyone.  Relax.  Just merely commenting on a topic that was brought up.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Aug 30, 2012, 05:42:12 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 30, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
I was pretty ambivalent about 3D until I saw Prometheus, which was impressive enough, technically, to get me on board. Plus, 3D gaming appeals to me.

3D definitely is the future, but you're right in other regards - the conservative buyer should wait until we have no-glasses 3D (it's definitely coming). But in the meantime, I'm going downtown to buy a 3Dtv today!  ;D

I'd agree that 3D when it fills your field of vision on a 50 foot screen is impressive. When it's on a 50 inch TV that your sitting 8 feet away from, it's gimmicky as hell. Surround sound is a better way to immerse yourself into a movie.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Aug 30, 2012, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 30, 2012, 05:42:12 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 30, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
I was pretty ambivalent about 3D until I saw Prometheus, which was impressive enough, technically, to get me on board. Plus, 3D gaming appeals to me.

3D definitely is the future, but you're right in other regards - the conservative buyer should wait until we have no-glasses 3D (it's definitely coming). But in the meantime, I'm going downtown to buy a 3Dtv today!  ;D

I'd agree that 3D when it fills your field of vision on a 50 foot screen is impressive. When it's on a 50 inch TV that your sitting 8 feet away from, it's gimmicky as hell. Surround sound is a better way to immerse yourself into a movie.

You know Highland, that's a very effective reality-check right there. I'll confess straight away that I've not yet seen 3D on a television screen. Of course I'll be scrutinizing all the models very closely before I buy (I didn't go out today after all - last day of vacation and I want to sit on my ass), but I've been assuming all along that since Prometheus was great in 3D in the cinema, it would therefore be great in 3D in the home. Your post has encouraged me to throw that assumption aside until I see the goods for myself.

However, with Creature from the Black Lagoon and (the original) House of Wax coming out soon (not to mention 3D gaming), I'm still on the 'gonna buy it' side of the fence, unless my showroom experience completely sucks...  :)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SM on Aug 30, 2012, 11:37:48 PM
There simply isn't the content for me to even remotely consider a 3DTV.  You show the demo reels they have in showrooms, and they look nice all hi def, with stuff actually coming out of the screen.  But most of the recent 3D films don't have that, and beyond the odd bit of 3D sports coverage, what else is there?  When there's no glasses and content, I might begin to consider it.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Aug 31, 2012, 12:07:30 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 30, 2012, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 30, 2012, 05:42:12 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 30, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
I was pretty ambivalent about 3D until I saw Prometheus, which was impressive enough, technically, to get me on board. Plus, 3D gaming appeals to me.

3D definitely is the future, but you're right in other regards - the conservative buyer should wait until we have no-glasses 3D (it's definitely coming). But in the meantime, I'm going downtown to buy a 3Dtv today!  ;D

I'd agree that 3D when it fills your field of vision on a 50 foot screen is impressive. When it's on a 50 inch TV that your sitting 8 feet away from, it's gimmicky as hell. Surround sound is a better way to immerse yourself into a movie.

You know Highland, that's a very effective reality-check right there. I'll confess straight away that I've not yet seen 3D on a television screen. Of course I'll be scrutinizing all the models very closely before I buy (I didn't go out today after all - last day of vacation and I want to sit on my ass), but I've been assuming all along that since Prometheus was great in 3D in the cinema, it would therefore be great in 3D in the home. Your post has encouraged me to throw that assumption aside until I see the goods for myself.

However, with Creature from the Black Lagoon and (the original) House of Wax coming out soon (not to mention 3D gaming), I'm still on the 'gonna buy it' side of the fence, unless my showroom experience completely sucks...  :)

A very good idea.  ;)

Make sure YOU pick the movie. Even high end shops will play the Pixar card which is just not a good example. It's a good idea to watch a movie before hand then ask for it to be played. For sound and picture quality.

Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Aug 31, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
Yes, I'm thinking of bringing Tron: Legacy with me, since I know what that film is supposed to look like!  ;D
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Space Sweeper on Aug 31, 2012, 03:07:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 31, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
Yes, I'm thinking of bringing Tron: Legacy with me, since I know what that film is supposed to look like!  ;D
Excellent choice, sir.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Aug 31, 2012, 11:36:24 PM
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 31, 2012, 02:09:07 PM
Yes, I'm thinking of bringing Tron: Legacy with me, since I know what that film is supposed to look like!  ;D

Love that movie  ;)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 06, 2012, 05:09:58 PM
Futureshop Canada just posted up this cover art:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.futureshop.ca%2Fmultimedia%2FProducts%2F500x500%2Fm21%2Fm2195%2Fm2195198.jpg&hash=5cdead825edb6461708f08dd6780f0e80c12289e)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: BANE on Sep 06, 2012, 05:15:04 PM
Gorgeous
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 06, 2012, 05:17:28 PM
I prefer the hologram Engineer head design myself. Looks like it fits with the beautiful individual Alien Anthology release slipcovers.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Sep 06, 2012, 05:18:16 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 06, 2012, 05:09:58 PM
Futureshop Canada just posted up this cover art:

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/Products/500x500/m21/m2195/m2195198.jpg

Okay, now I don't mind paying a little extra. ;D That's the most beautiful cover art yet.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Space Sweeper on Sep 07, 2012, 09:28:59 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 06, 2012, 05:09:58 PM
Futureshop Canada just posted up this cover art:

http://www.futureshop.ca/multimedia/Products/500x500/m21/m2195/m2195198.jpg
Hey, I live in Canada... and I was going to get mine at FutureShop...

...Take my money.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: T Dog on Sep 08, 2012, 03:10:57 PM
Random thoughts:

1) I'm looking forward to reading Spaights' version. I have a suspicious that he probably wrote a far superior screenplay but in the interest of trying to be "more original" they just shat on everything for the sake of it. I read there that Weyland was supposed to be hanging out on a space station near Mars and his true obsession was Terraforming. Sounds much more interesting. I think the God V God angle and search for more life is an interesting idea that simply wasn't used.

2) In terms of imagery I don't think the Alien series was broke, we'd only been inside the derelict once, so why fix it and make it all shiny and post minority report looking. What happened to Giger's nightmarish quality, and why pussy out and make a ten foot Bio-mechanical creature a literal man in a suit? My only hope is that somewhere along the lines things become properly Bio-mechanical again in the sequel movies. Just smear some black goo on the ship walls. Done!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:10:33 PM
Watching some of the deleted scenes right now.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:10:33 PM
Watching some of the deleted scenes right now.
How? Where? Share! :o
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 09, 2012, 05:13:31 PM
What? What?

Spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU
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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:14:16 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:10:33 PM
Watching some of the deleted scenes right now.

Huh? Are they any good? Anything substantial?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:14:33 PM
I will uploading them soon. So far I've seen some Vickers/Janek dialogue. Shaw telling an story to the crew. Fifield and Milburn finding some skin in the pyramid. More dialogue between Shaw and Holloway (bed scene).
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 09, 2012, 05:14:53 PM
Good stuff? :P
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:15:47 PM
Yeah I like it. CGI looks finalized in all of them.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:16:39 PM
Are they in HD quality?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:17:49 PM
1024x576.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:18:29 PM
And no time codes? Do you think they could be reintegrated into the theatrical cut of the film seamlessly?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:18:40 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:14:33 PM
I will uploading them soon. So far I've seen some Vickers/Janek dialogue. Shaw telling an story to the crew. Fifield and Milburn finding some skin in the pyramid. More dialogue between Shaw and Holloway (bed scene).

Awesome! Can't wait to see them!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Sep 09, 2012, 05:20:01 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:17:49 PM
1024x576.

Do you have all of the deleted scenes? :o

This is awesome.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:21:27 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:18:29 PM
And no time codes? Do you think they could be reintegrated into the theatrical cut of the film seamlessly?

Some look out a bit of place. The one I'm watching right now is Shaw and Hollowing talking in their room. Shaw slaps Holloway twice because he makes some remarks about her dead parents, then they start making out. I guess they could be reintegrated but not sure where.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 09, 2012, 05:22:00 PM
Lol is there anything that improves on Milburn's incredibly poor decision making regarding a certain hammerpede? :laugh:


Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:21:27 PM
Shaw slaps Holloway twice because he makes some remarks about her dead parents.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi3.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F001%2F624%2Fmy_parents_are_deeaaaaaad.jpg&hash=edf23633b252e51a7ad91fbb688f33dcb34f25a6)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Sep 09, 2012, 05:23:02 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:21:27 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:18:29 PM
And no time codes? Do you think they could be reintegrated into the theatrical cut of the film seamlessly?

Some look out a bit of place. The one I'm watching right now is Shaw and Hollowing talking in their room. Shaw slaps Holloway twice because he makes some remarks about her dead parents, then they start making out. I guess they could be reintegrated but not sure where.

They should have left Shaw slapping Holloway in. >:(
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:23:39 PM
Nah, would be better if it was David slapping him :P
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:24:01 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 09, 2012, 05:23:02 PM
They should have left Shaw slapping Holloway in. >:(
I have a feeling I know what my new set is going to be screencapped from.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Sep 09, 2012, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:24:01 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 09, 2012, 05:23:02 PM
They should have left Shaw slapping Holloway in. >:(
I have a feeling I know what my new set is going to be screencapped from.

:laugh:
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 09, 2012, 05:25:33 PM
Gifs shall be made. There will be lol's.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:25:58 PM
Vickers is telling Weyland that she's sorry. It looks like an alternate version of the Weyland/Vickers scene we saw on cinemas.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:26:43 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:25:58 PM
Vickers is telling Weyland that she's sorry. It looks like an alternate version of the Weyland/Vickers scene we saw on cinemas.

The "father" scene, you mean? Interesting..."Father" did sound a bit forced in the theatrical cut...
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Sep 09, 2012, 05:28:05 PM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 09, 2012, 05:25:33 PM
Gifs shall be made. There will be lol's.

We need a GIF that is a montage of Shaw slapping Holloway, Holloway in pain, Holloway getting toasted by Vickers.  And then at the end a static frame of David smiling menacingly saying, "You mad?"
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:29:06 PM
Spoiler
Holloway wasn't that bad...
[close]
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:30:11 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:29:06 PM
Spoiler
Holloway wasn't that bad...
[close]
Spoiler
If you like douches.
[close]
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:30:42 PM
Vickers mentions that Weyland is her father in this new scene too.

And that's it I think. There's no more scenes in there for now.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:31:32 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:30:11 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:29:06 PM
Spoiler
Holloway wasn't that bad...
[close]
Spoiler
If you like douches.
[close]
Spoiler
He was a dick to David, yeah, but the way everyone was talking before I saw the film, I was expecting him to be a lot worse.
[close]
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 09, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
No expanded fight scene with the engineer?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:38:10 PM
I think this is just part of deleted scenes.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 09, 2012, 05:39:23 PM
okidokes :) thanks for the info :)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Sep 09, 2012, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:31:32 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:30:11 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:29:06 PM
Spoiler
Holloway wasn't that bad...
[close]
Spoiler
If you like douches.
[close]
Spoiler
He was a dick to David, yeah, but the way everyone was talking before I saw the film, I was expecting him to be a lot worse.
[close]

"Guys, I'm going to take my helmet off. Look how badass I am! I'm not going to listen to Vickers. I mean what could possibly go wrong - we're only on a strange planet, lulz. Oh no, I've got something wriggling around in my eye, better not tell anyone, especially after I've just screwed Ellie. Woo! This is like Vegas all over again baby!"

His attitude in general sucks but he wasn't as bad as I was thinking he was going to be - so there's that, at least. :P

Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:38:10 PM
I think this is just part of deleted scenes.

So we'll probably only see the Engineer related stuff and some of the other scenes later.  Well, this is better than nothing. 8)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:43:28 PM
Some pics until I figure things out:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg715.imageshack.us%2Fimg715%2F8384%2Fvlcsnap2012090919h40m38.png&hash=42854844b2e5fa1bb38cead03bbb3f94f3b2785a)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg534.imageshack.us%2Fimg534%2F5485%2Fvlcsnap2012090919h40m48.png&hash=439d92c2dc1ef291ed41f2aa3716887f21723a30)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg846.imageshack.us%2Fimg846%2F9945%2Fvlcsnap2012090919h41m22.png&hash=e4d72841609e1b0c08c9d9cc4c9b466db9878663)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg820.imageshack.us%2Fimg820%2F2731%2Fvlcsnap2012090919h42m02.png&hash=18395cab0f1a9f8e9b0594e2ee7df8e3dfc92e41)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:44:19 PM
Really cool looking.

The skin wasn't featured in the film, was it? Is it Hammerpede skin, or something else?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:47:59 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:44:19 PM
The skin wasn't featured in the film, was it? Is it Hammerpede skin, or something else?
Probably Deacon skin.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
Looks like Hammerpede skin when Milburn picks it up. He even smells it.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Blacklabel on Sep 09, 2012, 05:51:58 PM
"noice".  :)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
Looks like Hammerpede skin when Milburn picks it up. He even smells it.

In that case, could you tell where it was supposed to take place?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Virgil on Sep 09, 2012, 05:53:30 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
Looks like Hammerpede skin when Milburn picks it up. He even smells it.

Oh Milburn, you silly, silly man  ::)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
Looks like Hammerpede skin when Milburn picks it up. He even smells it.

In that case, could you tell where it was supposed to take place?

It takes place inside the pyramid. I think I mentioned it earlier.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:54:35 PM
...so he takes his helmet off and puts it back on again? Is this like the ten second rule, but for alien atmospheres?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:56:29 PM
No. They don't have their helmets on for some reason.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:56:56 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
Looks like Hammerpede skin when Milburn picks it up. He even smells it.

In that case, could you tell where it was supposed to take place?

It takes place inside the pyramid. I think I mentioned it earlier.

Sorry, phrased that wrong. I meant where in the film, not where as in location.

It'd have to be before the Hammerpede attack scene, but then, that would mean its before there were any Hammerpedes around. Could the skin imply that they were not the first ones?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 05:59:54 PM
Did any of these scenes feature score, ikarop?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 06:01:54 PM
Yeah, most do.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: T Dog on Sep 09, 2012, 06:36:30 PM
Where you get the deleted scenes from|?
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 07:04:32 PM
DVD. These are the scenes listed on the menu:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg228.imageshack.us%2Fimg228%2F2459%2Fvlcsnap2012090921h02m44.png&hash=75b21de5b299dfcc7d759998ad9d14ef7dfc7c9c)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 07:08:02 PM
Aha! So this is the commercial DVD release?
So Fox is screwing fans out of the good deleted scenes unless they have a blu-ray player and go for the 3D combo pack?

How nice of them.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Sep 09, 2012, 07:09:14 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 07:04:32 PM
DVD. These are the scenes listed on the menu:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg228.imageshack.us%2Fimg228%2F2459%2Fvlcsnap2012090921h02m44.png&hash=75b21de5b299dfcc7d759998ad9d14ef7dfc7c9c)

Wow, false advertising ftw.  So the poor fans who get only the DVD get a barebones release.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 07:10:01 PM
I don't wanna get the 3D combo pack... :'(

Honestly, I'm probably gonna hold off a bit before I even get the Blu Ray, just in case they decide to slip an announcement not too long later for a potential extended version once everybody already bought the first one.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Virgil on Sep 09, 2012, 07:10:53 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 07:08:02 PM
Aha! So this is the commercial DVD release?
So Fox is screwing fans out of the good deleted scenes unless they have a blu-ray player and go for the 3D combo pack?

How nice of them.

Seems to be that way.   :-[
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: T Dog on Sep 09, 2012, 07:19:28 PM
I guess somebody is going to have to make that fan edit for sure now. Put all those deleted scenes back in.

20th Century Fox: You f**k us in the theatres, you f**k us on the DVD, but alas, you shall f**k us no more because you are not getting any more of my money you greedy pricks.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SpaceMarines on Sep 09, 2012, 07:24:39 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 07:10:01 PM
Honestly, I'm probably gonna hold off a bit before I even get the Blu Ray, just in case they decide to slip an announcement not too long later for a potential extended version once everybody already bought the first one.

Same. It's not like anyone's holding a gun to our heads, forcing us to buy this release.

I'm not too bothered by waiting a bit, anyways. There's plenty of other things to keep me occupied in the meantime.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: echobbase79 on Sep 09, 2012, 07:36:44 PM

I'm getting confused. Which release will have all the features? It looks like the dvd version is getting the shaft but I'm not surprised. Studios are really pushing for people to get bluray players.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 07:37:36 PM
If I'm understand things correctly, the Blu Ray has some features, but the only way to get them all is the 3D Blu Ray. :-\
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 07:37:36 PM
If I'm understand things correctly, the Blu Ray has some features, but the only way to get them all is the 3D Blu Ray. :-\
Yup.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Sep 09, 2012, 09:05:20 PM
I'm going to wait for an extended edition that has the extra scenes put into the movie itself.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: departedhero20 on Sep 09, 2012, 09:26:48 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Sep 09, 2012, 07:19:28 PM
I guess somebody is going to have to make that fan edit for sure now. Put all those deleted scenes back in.

20th Century Fox: You f**k us in the theatres, you f**k us on the DVD, but alas, you shall f**k us no more because you are not getting any more of my money you greedy pricks.

lets buy a drink for this guy i f**king agree with you on all of what you just said. ill wait till anended cut is released instead of buying this half ass made movie.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Magegg on Sep 09, 2012, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 09, 2012, 07:09:14 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Sep 09, 2012, 07:04:32 PM
DVD. These are the scenes listed on the menu:

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Wow, false advertising ftw.  So the poor fans who get only the DVD get a barebones release.

I will wait for the 15 Anniversary ZenD release. What is ZenD? It's the new format that will be used from 2027 onwards, you loosers are gonna buy the poor man's version from Blu-Ray that contains only 30 minutes of deleted scene while I will enjoy the ZenD digital release of 9,500 GB containing six different documentals and the complete Prometheus Trilogy with 2 and a half hours of deleted scenes!!

Spoiler
Yeah, I simply think we don't have to worry about what version is better, since there will always be a later release on the future that will exceed the previous ones limitations
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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Sep 09, 2012, 10:45:05 PM
I love it when everyone get's all crazy about being ripped off when your talking differences in the region of 10 bucks.

As for the DVD, who the hell buy's new single Dvd's anyway? Only really people with Itunes probably. You get them in the combo packs now. 

Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Sep 09, 2012, 11:21:12 PM
Quote from: Highland on Sep 09, 2012, 10:45:05 PM
I love it when everyone get's all crazy about being ripped off when your talking differences in the region of 10 bucks.

As for the DVD, who the hell buy's new single Dvd's anyway?

Seriously. I understand everyone's in a different financial situation, but dvd is over.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Snowdog on Sep 09, 2012, 11:30:57 PM
I find it outrageous they won't release Prometheus on Betamax !!! >:( >:(

Spoiler
But yeah DvD is history, actually i'm quite surprised the DvD release even get some extra's
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Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: echobbase79 on Sep 10, 2012, 12:26:27 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Sep 09, 2012, 07:40:22 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 09, 2012, 07:37:36 PM
If I'm understand things correctly, the Blu Ray has some features, but the only way to get them all is the 3D Blu Ray. :-\
Yup.

What a steal!  ::)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Vickers on Sep 10, 2012, 01:16:30 AM
Quote from: Snowdog on Sep 09, 2012, 11:30:57 PM
I find it outrageous they won't release Prometheus on Betamax !!! >:( >:(

Spoiler
But yeah DvD is history, actually i'm quite surprised the DvD release even get some extra's
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I wouldn't say DVD is history.  DVDs are still excellent quality despite not being in HD.  And DVDs aren't far off from Blu-Rays the way VHS tapes are vastly different to DVDs.

Then there's also the price difference.  While there are some Blu-Rays that have dropped in price, not everyone can afford to buy new Blu Rays on a regular basis.  Once Blu-Rays become as cheap as DVDs (and DVDs become cheaper), then it would only make sense to upgrade to Blu-Ray.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SpaceMarines on Sep 10, 2012, 01:21:51 AM
I still try and get DVD whenever possible, simply because they can be watched more places. The combo packs are ideal, but there aren't many of those for older films.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 10, 2012, 01:30:28 AM
For me, when buying used or older movies, I almost always get DVD simply because of the price difference. Most of my Blu Ray buys are new films that I've been anticipating.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Sep 10, 2012, 02:08:40 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 10, 2012, 01:16:30 AM

Then there's also the price difference.  While there are some Blu-Rays that have dropped in price, not everyone can afford to buy new Blu Rays on a regular basis.  Once Blu-Rays become as cheap as DVDs (and DVDs become cheaper), then it would only make sense to upgrade to Blu-Ray.

I'm not sure what part of the world your from but most country's now (and have for a long time) offer bargain basement and re-issue's of most movie's nowadays's for dirt cheap. You can pick up Blu Ray players for very reasonably prices now and possibly even have one through PS3.

There is no "when it's time to upgrade". That time's long past. Blu Ray has been leading the charge for years now. With the bigger disk space and improved sound codecs the studio's have given us a reason to buy again as opposed to piracy.

Of course if you don't have good equipment or don't care for better quality/extra's then DVD's are still fine.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Sabres21768 on Sep 10, 2012, 02:54:37 AM
Quote from: Highland on Sep 10, 2012, 02:08:40 AM
Quote from: RiddleMeTheus on Sep 10, 2012, 01:16:30 AM

Then there's also the price difference.  While there are some Blu-Rays that have dropped in price, not everyone can afford to buy new Blu Rays on a regular basis.  Once Blu-Rays become as cheap as DVDs (and DVDs become cheaper), then it would only make sense to upgrade to Blu-Ray.

I'm not sure what part of the world your from but most country's now (and have for a long time) offer bargain basement and re-issue's of most movie's nowadays's for dirt cheap. You can pick up Blu Ray players for very reasonably prices now and possibly even have one through PS3.

There is no "when it's time to upgrade". That time's long past. Blu Ray has been leading the charge for years now. With the bigger disk space and improved sound codecs the studio's have given us a reason to buy again as opposed to piracy.

Of course if you don't have good equipment or don't care for better quality/extra's then DVD's are still fine.

I think that is where the problem is for most people who haven't upgraded to blu-ray...the extra cost of getting everything that is required to get the full hd experience.

If you don't have a 1080p tv, and the right sound system...it's no better than just getting the dvd.

While the prices of hd tv's have dropped, a decent one is still fairly expensive.

I switched over a long time ago, and haven't regretted it...but that's just no feasible for some, given the current economy.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Highland on Sep 10, 2012, 04:42:38 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 10, 2012, 02:54:37 AM


While the prices of hd tv's have dropped, a decent one is still fairly expensive.


Not if you know what your looking for. I guess that's the whole sales trick though. There becomes a point in home cinema where it gets into diminishing returns and really you get the micky taken. Samsung and Panasonic throw out some great screens these day's if you can put aside all the "3D" , "internet connectivity", "HDMI version 5.9" "built in hardrive" bull crap that you will NEVER use.

My plasma is nearly 4 years old and would struggle to fetch a $1000 now at the time I paid $3500. I know it's still as close to a top notch home cinema experience you can get. Same with sound systems. Some guy's still have receivers and speakers from 10 years ago that do a mint job. 

The trick is buying it right the first time. Besides, a man sized TV should be on any blokes list!!!  ;) 

I agree that you have to have the gear to see the benefit though.

Going a bit off topic now. Gimme the Blu Ray for Prometheus!!
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: LarsVader on Sep 10, 2012, 08:15:55 AM
Since I have not made the "upgrade" yet I'd be happy with a DVD combo package,
but it looks like the deluxe/3D version doesn't come with a DVD in the UK instead it does with a stupid digital copy.
So I have to get things twice?

And I am majorly annoyed about that the french DVD is barebones, I hope the UK version will be different.
I don't want thai/arab/huttish audio tracks, I want commentaries and all of the deleted scenes!

I hope we'll get full details on all the versions soon, becouse I want to know EXACTLY what to get.
And then I've got a few amazon pre-orders to cancel  :laugh:


Finish cover thingys:

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(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs0.discshop.fi%2Fimg%2Fback_max%2F89375%2Fprometheus_blu_ray_3d_bd_dvd.jpg&hash=980bdddc5f310ce8541793af9b7ce1468e14dd50)
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: ikarop on Sep 11, 2012, 05:20:09 PM
http://www.fangoria.com/index.php/home/all-news/1-latest-news/7767-exclusive-prometheus-discs-are-going-to-be-epic (http://www.fangoria.com/index.php/home/all-news/1-latest-news/7767-exclusive-prometheus-discs-are-going-to-be-epic)

Quote"I'm intensely proud of the PROMETHEUS disc," Lauzirika tells Fango. "It's probably one of the most, if not the most, comprehensive discs I've ever done. I'm shocked that we were able to achieve the depth and scope of what we were able to do in the time that we had, which was fraction of what we had on a catalog title like, say, BLADE RUNNER, which goes on for years and years and years. PROMETHEUS we had a few months to get out, but it's epic."

While he can't go into specifics just yet, Lauzirika suggests that there will be some pretty extensive documentary features, the result of a good deal of time spent on PROMETHEUS' sets and locations. "I was out there for several weeks," he says. "I'd go for like two weeks at a time, and I would shoot interviews and behind-the-scenes footage. I shot all of preproduction, which was about a year, and I also shot postproduction. Most of the camerawork is mine on that, but I also had another camera operator, Vanessa White, in the UK who shot when I wasn't there, so we had the whole thing covered, soup to nuts. I didn't get to go to Iceland [where some of PROMETHEUS' most remarkable moments were lensed] for that shoot, but Vanessa covered that, and we have amazing footage of Iceland as well."
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Sep 11, 2012, 10:22:34 PM
Considering all the other ALIEN documentaries, I cannot wait for the Prometheus one.
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: Morgoth on Sep 29, 2012, 04:43:32 AM
Just per ordered my 3d copy :laugh:
Title: Re: First Bluray Details
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Sep 29, 2012, 06:49:54 AM
In terms of consumer shopping: I'd just like to point out I just got a Samsung 40" 3-D TV at Best Buy for just under $800.  So far it's lovely.