Stephen Hopkins Talks Predator 2 For 30th Anniversary, Arnie's Involvement & Cancelled Anniversary Re-Release

Started by Corporal Hicks, Nov 25, 2020, 12:37:32 PM

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Stephen Hopkins Talks Predator 2 For 30th Anniversary, Arnie's Involvement & Cancelled Anniversary Re-Release (Read 6,341 times)

Whiskeybrewer

When studios could use 2020 to recoup some money with re-releases and they bottle it

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: SiL on Nov 26, 2020, 07:33:47 AM
It wasn't uncut. Same film, new print.

I think Sil's over the target.

Quote from: Mike on Nov 26, 2020, 02:05:36 AM
But I thought someone on here said there was no abc-17 cut after all

Quote from: Mike on Nov 26, 2020, 02:06:11 AM
Nc-17 cut I mean

No, I don't believe there was a working NC-17 cut with completed Special Effects and Silvestri's score and I personally still don't based on everything I've been able to find out.

This is what I posted in April: :)

"Hopkins said it was literally his first working cut that premiered. That's all he had time for!

Production for Predator 2 started February 1990. Director Stephen Hopkins was expecting a Spring 1991 release but Fox moved it up to a November 1990 which gave him an incredibly small amount of time to finish the movie. 10 Months!  It's ridiculous, right? Because of that ridiculous small amount of time, Hopkins said pubically that it was his first working cut that premiered and he would have edited differently if he had more time. It was so rushed, optical effects were added 3 times between batches of film prints. So technically, depending where you lived, the optical special effects could have been better, more robust, or less.

I think Hopkins caused all this darn confusion when he said in the commentary many years later that Predator 2 was their first NC-17 case and had to go back with cuts over 20 times. I think it's important to differentiate a cut from cuts. Hopkins had to make cuts to gore to avoid an NC-17 rating, but that's done in house during editing. Directors have access to lawyers, producers and ex-MPAA review board members paid by Fox to review target scenes, rating score them based on current MPAA guidelines, plus make recommendation cuts to make a target rating... all during the editing process against a high pressure deadline.  Hopkins didn't actually have time to make over 20 versions of the movie, time to make over 20 working cuts and send them each off, one at a time, to a MPAA board for review, each with a musical score in place. There was just no time for that.

I guess what I'm trying to say is it would appear there is no working gore unrated cut, with extra gorey scenes, complete with score in place, on the shelf waiting for release."


https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=63538.0

Now there were leaked copies of a rough workprint without FX and music that got out before the film's release and was found for sale on the blackmarket though, and that had all the scenes filmed patched in order. I'd love to see that!

More on everything in a couple weeks!  :)

Mike

I understand that whole thing you wrote but before that you commented that Stephen said in the commentary that gore had to be cut out and also in this interview he mentions gore that was cut, now your latest comment is implying that there was no extra gore scenes that were cut?

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Mike on Nov 26, 2020, 04:16:49 PM
I understand that whole thing you wrote but before that you commented that Stephen said in the commentary that gore had to be cut out and also in this interview he mentions gore that was cut, now your latest comment is implying that there was no extra gore scenes that were cut?

Huh? From above:

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 26, 2020, 03:25:00 PM
Hopkins had to make cuts to gore to avoid an NC-17 rating,


Enjoy

I wanna see the NC17 version of P 2.

PVC

Hi. What a pleasure to See you again Mr hopkins     Predator 2 was a great movie. It's still a great movie. Perfect directing.  Perfect casting. Great music again from the great mr silvestri    Perfect predator costume ( Winston was the best ).  Perfect everything.   Thanks mr Hopkins.  Hope to see the uncut version. If not ... Shame on Shane
Ah !mr Gorman ... Terrible " boobs " T- shirt ....     

Hey

Is Stephen talking about that fox was going to release a new 70 mm version this year of predator 2 or they were suppose to release the uncut more gory version

Corporal Hicks


Mike’s Monsters

I wonder if there's anyone out there who saw the unfinished cuts that got released into theaters that remembers the alternate version. That was a fun little bit of information. Maybe they weren't all destroyed?  ;)

Enjoy

News is out that disney wants to team up dutch with royce in a new predator movie.

Corporal Hicks

Quote from: Enjoy on Nov 28, 2020, 06:23:33 PM
News is out that disney wants to team up dutch with royce in a new predator movie.

It's just fabricated clickbait from WeGotThisCovered.

Enjoy

Wtf. Who has the time to make that. Banksy of trolls.

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