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Title: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 06, 2008, 11:47:26 PM

MTV Movies has been talking to Mrs Weaver and as usual she reveals that her and Ridley Scott have been talking about an Alien 5. Again. But this time it’s a little different:

“"What we're interested in is taking the character of Ripley and seeing what other science fiction story we can tell about someone who has lived several lives."

An Alien film without Aliens? I know it’s always been about Ripley but…Well, I’ll let you make your own minds up about it. Read the whole thing here. Thanks to Xenomorphine for the news.

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Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Dec 07, 2008, 12:27:12 AM
You say with in the title.   Its been too often she says I want to do it, I don't want to do it, doesn't count as news for me anymore.
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Andrew127 on Dec 07, 2008, 02:01:38 AM
I think what she is trying to say is that if they do A5 it will ignore most of the other films, Hence the "science fiction story we can tell about someone who has lived several lives.”  Seems to me thats a cop out way of saying "We want to start a new Ripley story".
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: shakermakerman on Dec 07, 2008, 02:23:57 AM
How about an alien movie with out ripley, seeing she died in Alien 3.
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Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 07, 2008, 03:14:11 AM
I've always been interested in seeing the alien and predator universe expanding, seeing new areas besides the alien and predators, but only if its done right    :P  
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: spinner7478 on Dec 07, 2008, 03:21:52 AM
Wow, that just ruined my weekend.  Thanks Sigourney Weaver.
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Post by: spinner7478 on Dec 07, 2008, 03:37:48 AM
I just don't get it.  Why are there still people who think this franchise lives and dies around Ellen Ripley?  Don't get me wrong, "Alien" and "Aliens" are, in my opinion, 2 of the greatest sci-fi movies of our generation...but LET'S GIVE IT A REST.  Bringing her back for "Alien: Resurrection" was the worst mistake this franchise could have ever made.  Can we just let this character die already (especially considering that, um...SHE'S ALREADY DEAD)?  Here's my suggestion:  back off for a few years, let the stink of the AVP movies wear off, pray that the Aliens: Coloniel Marines game is a hit, and then try to reboot the franchise based on Steve Perry's trilogy (just find a way to write out Ripley for part 3).
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: War Wager on Dec 07, 2008, 04:16:29 AM
If they put Ripley in a movie without Aliens, I won't be seeing it. Simple as.
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Ash 937 on Dec 07, 2008, 05:30:43 AM
It's a dangerous gamble.  It could work and it could not.  It all depends of whether or not Ridley still has some of that Blade Runner magic left in him.
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Dallas 224 on Dec 07, 2008, 05:58:32 AM
She's just toying with us. Maybe means nothing is decided yet for an A5, but let's us talk about that.
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Post by: MrFacehug on Dec 07, 2008, 08:43:42 AM
That's gotta be the worst idea ever! If they make a movie with Ripley and without aliens, I'll kill myself...    :'(  
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Post by: kcirtap33 on Dec 07, 2008, 09:17:59 AM
she just wants another payday seeing as she is nearly 60 years old.
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Post by: Xenomorphine on Dec 07, 2008, 09:27:08 AM
That wasn't Perry's trilogy. He just adapted the pre-existing graphic novels into stuff. :)
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Space Disc Jockey on Dec 07, 2008, 09:48:14 AM
-------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ Well, I really do think they should just go to the Alien planet and also reveal the Space Jockey species. I mean, if they want Ripley to go a "chronicles" route and tell other stories that don't involve the Alien species, then put to rest the Aliens and their mystery. Tell us their origins and everything and move on. I totally agree now that the Alien creature just isnt scary anymore...too much of it has been overexposed. The mystery of it is gone, really. I can understand they want to do something new and different, but I think first...end the "Alien" chapter of Ripley's life for good. Go to the source, end it and go a different direction. Ridley is *ucking brilliant, we know that...Im sure that whatever he decides to do, he wont *uck things up (I hope).  I would ONLY be happy if they totally close the Alien chapter and THEN tell stories of other adventures, following Ripley. Hopefully, it wont be like what they did to Riddick. I really liked Pitch Black, but man did they screw up with "Chroinciles of Riddick" = /
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Chris P on Dec 07, 2008, 09:58:51 AM
What?  An ALIEN 5 with no ALIEN?  A "chronicals of Ripley"?  Let me say NO!  This would suck!  I believe the main reason for Riply existing is the ALIEN organism.  If you took that away, it would be more like a fictional documentary, rather than a Sci Fi film expansion.  I vote against this plan of action.  They stated that they would have to go "back to the drawing board".  Well, with what?  The creature design? Origination?    You knwo what I am getting out of this..... a PREqual to A L I EN(1979), not a sequal to Alien Resurrection.  As long as it goes into depth regarding the ALIEN organism, I am fine with this.  The Ripley character definately needs to be exposed more, but WITH the ALIEN, NOT without.
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Dec 07, 2008, 10:22:55 AM
Ridley has always wanted to create a completely new alen monster. I think though that Ripley's situation where she's lived on and off over a few hundred years in one state or another reminds me a bit of the scenario of The Forever War which Ridley has attached himself to to make into a movie
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Rudy M Alapag Jr on Dec 07, 2008, 11:14:24 AM
How about this: A Alien 5 prequel?  Like how the company knew about the Aliens, and why they want those creatures so badly, why the Aliens were taken out."HOW" the company started. One more thing: The Queen Alien made herself? From a woman somehow into a queen? Well, to me those questions or ideas is from the ALIENS: ORIGINAL SIN explains all. But should we really see a 5th Alien film?
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: predalien-hybrid on Dec 07, 2008, 01:34:44 PM
Alien 5 does need the alien. It is in the title after all and if Ridley Scott doesn't want to use the same creature design, he should adleast consult Giger for some monster ideas.
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: blackhawk on Dec 07, 2008, 02:43:38 PM
All i gotta say is: here we go again!!!
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: nchurch81 on Dec 07, 2008, 03:19:56 PM
I think it's the best idea we've had for the aliens series in a long time.
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Jango1201 on Dec 07, 2008, 03:46:48 PM
Ummmm... Then the movie shouldn't be called Alien 5, It should be called Ellen Ripley. Jesus this franchise is headed for the toilet...
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Post by: Axlotl on Dec 07, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
I'd be thrilled for this if it was done well, i'd much rather the universe mythology expanded well, so the franchise could expand into greater things than just aliens or predators. I want some info rich universe to nerd out about, like the star wars/trek nerds have.
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: xor_ew on Dec 07, 2008, 11:33:11 PM
It would be the most stupid thing I've ever heard! Adventures of Ellen Ripley without Aliens? It would be look like "Ewoks" movie without Star Wars characters... I believe that Ridley has had something different on his mind - maybe fresh story about Aliens...    ???  
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: MrFacehug on Dec 08, 2008, 02:27:11 AM
I have to agree with Space Disc Jockey about one thing: I'd love to see further exploration of the Space Jockeys. Although, I'm completely against removing the aliens from the series. I'm convinced that you can make the aliens scary if you do it right, and if you combine aliens with Space Jockeys you'll get the old stuff that fans know and love, plus new exciting stuff for both the general public and the old fans.  The story could have a similar tone to Aliens at some parts. Imagine a classic scientific base getting overrun by aliens, but this time they're not acting on their own, but are controlled by the Jockeys. And Ripley goes with a team of marines to eliminate the hive, wich is located in a nearby mountain, and then she finds Space Jockey ruins similar to the ones in the AvP2 game. They could show alot of untold stories with that concept, and also throw in some sweet action and horror moments. In the end, the Jockeys could loose the control over the aliens and then a lone Jockey will have to fight the queen or something. I'm just brainstorming here, but this has a lot of possibilities.  Also, since the aliens had a cameo in Predator 2, with the skull on the wall, they could show some kind of connection between the preds and the Jockeys in Alien 5. Like just a small hint or something, that creates more mystery and gets the fanbase hooked.    :P  
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: RakaiThwei on Dec 08, 2008, 08:02:24 AM
You can't make an Alien movie without the Aliens. It's simple as that. If Ridley Scott is smart, by whidch he is no dummy, then I would believe that he would scrap this idea and somehow think of a way of making new ideas and explorations while remaining true to the Alien series.   If he wants to do something like this, then he might as well make a TV series about it, like Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.   I recall sometime in early 2000, that Fox was debating on an AvP/Aliens/Predator TV series known as ALIENS: OMEGA, but it was never produced.   This would be a good time to do it.  But a movie without the Aliens? Uh-uh.. Ridley Scott, if you're smart, you won't go with that idea.
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Commander Griker on Dec 08, 2008, 12:31:17 PM
No aliens what will the film be called Ellen Ripley maybe she goes up against the company dont forget shes now half alien her self
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Commander Griker on Dec 08, 2008, 12:38:22 PM
Being an Aliens fan veteran I like the Ellen Ripley Idea think about it she is the Alien now the company wants her she has to fight to survive
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Commander Griker on Dec 08, 2008, 12:39:56 PM
I want an Ellen Ripley movie that is if its done well
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Commander Griker on Dec 08, 2008, 12:48:27 PM
War Wager you said   "If they put Ripley in a movie without Aliens, I won't be seeing it. Simple as."  Even if Sigourney Weaver was in it and Ridley Scott was the director?
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: MrFacehug on Dec 08, 2008, 01:22:03 PM
I guess I would see it to check if Ridley really lost his mind or not...
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: XENOMORPH ALIENS on Dec 09, 2008, 12:37:44 PM
i think that idea of doing another alien movie without the aliens is the most stupidest idea i've ever heard in my life. i like to see the aliens vs predator movies but ONLY if its done right. i would also love to see more alien movies and also more predator movies since i love the ALIENS/PREDATOR franchises alot.
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Vader the White on Dec 09, 2008, 01:49:52 PM
I haven't commented in a while, but this needs commenting. THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE!!!!!
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: xenovin on Dec 10, 2008, 03:46:23 AM
I'VE SAID IT ONCE SO I'LL SAY IT AGAIN ALIEN 5 SHOULD START AFTER ALIENS AND CONTINUE THE STORY AFTER THE EVENTS ON LV426.IF IT MEANS GOING TO THE ALIEN HOMEWORLD SO BE IT AND IT'S NOT AS IF MICHAEL BIEHN HAS DONE ANYTHING FOR A FEW YEARS IS IT.SIGOURNEY AND RIDLEY CAN NOT DO A ALIEN FILM WITHOUT THE TILE CREATURE IF THEY WANT TO DO ANOTHER ONE DO IT AS A SUSPENSE FILM LIKE THE 1ST ON AND KEEP ANY NEW CREATURES IN THE SHADOWS AND NOT IN FULL VIEW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER KIND OF ALIEN CREATURES ARE OUT THERE WHAT ABOUT A KING ALIEN THAT WOULD BE COOL ANYWAY ALIEN MOVIES ARE SCI-FI HORROR NOT SATURDAY KIDS MOVIES.   8)  
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: elemental of all on Dec 10, 2008, 10:20:03 AM
Ok cool lets see Jurassic Park without dinosaurs, or a good comedy without Will Ferrell... it just wouldent be right
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Bio Mech Hunter on Dec 10, 2008, 05:59:02 PM
Now I LOVE Sigourney just as much as the next Alien obsessed fan but... Alien 5. With no Alien. What are they going to call it? "5"?!  One of the most awesome and legendary sci-fi creatures to ever grace the big screen gets a sequel. Without it?! It's insanity I tell you! INSANITY!!!! *runs off laughing maniacally*
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Post by: The Diesel on Dec 10, 2008, 06:04:35 PM
I agree with spinner7478.
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Xenomorphine on Dec 10, 2008, 06:17:11 PM
I like good comedies which don't have WF in them, though.   :)  
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Sulaco on Dec 10, 2008, 08:34:34 PM
I like what everybody else likes.    ;D    runnin down the road "whootin and hollerin" slappin my ass cheeks!!! All about how stupid Sigourneys ideas are.
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: RUDY M ALAPAG JR on Dec 10, 2008, 09:33:45 PM
well, watching a different kind of Aliens, that would sound better. or what about a Alien TV series w/ Ellen Ripley but with other kind of stories, not only being stucked on Rip herself. And for me, i'm better off reading the Aliens novels and don't have to take my opinion but Aliens: Original Sin reveals all, dating back before Rip and the crash landing of the  ship. And why it was sent there - the book explains it just "for me". why a A5? i consider original sin is Alien 5
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: dvader27 on Dec 12, 2008, 04:30:09 AM
i agree with you rudy do an alien tv series like they are doing with terminator the sarah conor chronicles all about ellen ripley and her days & hours on the nostromo or the sulaco or lv 426 or forina 161 or about her clone from after alien res where she fights aliens maybe fight a predator maybe or whatever she comes in contact with but don't use sigourney weaver use an unknown actor then save sigourney for the movie of an alien 5 don't you agree with me people.   ;D  
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: Sokaris on Dec 12, 2008, 08:49:16 AM
I hope they won't even consider making a TV series! They did the same with Star Wars and Terminator and it sucked.  That would totally ruin the Alien franchise...
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: konradski on Dec 12, 2008, 03:56:12 PM
amazing how you all miss the point that the creature has now become a characture .it holds no mystery now since it was ballsed up by the avp franchise  in short it has become freddy kruger or jason and will never hold its mystery i feel they should just ditch it and have a ripley story on how she,s changed and the creature within trying to influence her actions .maybe ripley wanted to get to earth and is more alien than we know? cue ripley bringing down mankind and being the new queen   alien will survive all all costs.rings true in the end .being the perfect organism and able to adapt and over come it new genetic boundry
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Post by: elemental of all on Dec 12, 2008, 04:50:32 PM
like your name Xenomorphine, yea i know JB, Chris Farley,(old) Jim Carry all amazing too lol
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: MI Trooper on Dec 14, 2008, 10:51:52 AM
Now it's confirmed. The alien franchise is surrounded by morons. Scott and Weaver, shut up and just go away.
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Post by: ermanno on Dec 17, 2008, 01:05:20 AM
... ok .... and now we can do also Jurassic Park 4 without dinos ...   ;D   HANG UP ALL !!!
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: gee man on Dec 30, 2008, 01:36:19 PM
Sigourney Weaver is too old to star in the prequel.  She can star in it in the begining and then narrate the rest of the film, but they need to cast a younger woman for the pre-alien (1979) scenes.    alien 5 without the aliens = not a good idea
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Post by: joeisdaman190 on Jan 02, 2009, 04:53:28 PM
If Alien 5 doesnt have aliens it will be the dumbest movie in the alien / predator series next to avp1   ;D  
Title: Re: Alien 5 without Aliens?
Post by: gee man on Jan 02, 2009, 08:03:33 PM
does anyone think its possible for the alien franchise to take a break for ten to fifteen years and totally do what needs to be redone correctly?  i think the alien creature needs to have its 1979 nostalgia back.  not so much the bug hunt type of story line.  the alien needs to be the hunter, not humans or a predator.