Neill Blomkamp just shared a new piece on Instagram showing Ripley and Hicks.
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I love Neill's comment about enjoying the project. :) Hicks looks very Biehnish there. Also the soldier has as very ODST look about him. Wonder what the faction is though...not W-Y. Maybe UPP?
Did you notice the South Korean flag on his armour?
I wonder who the guys are behind them. Definitely not human but very different to the other alien figure Ripley was standing next to in the other artwork.
Is it the Korean flag? Definitely feeling that that's the UPP then.
I think they're supposed to be human. Don't think they're intended as humans.
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I took this concept to be egg morphing.
They wouldn't be able to walk around if he was egg morphing.
He isn't walking around.
Well, he's standing. I mean, Brett and Dallas were completely immobile.
You can't see what he's doing. He looks all gunked up past the shoulders. Definitely looks like he's symbolized in a cocoon of some fashion.
South Korea is capitalist too so I guess it isn't the UPP.
Quote from: Darkness on Jul 16, 2015, 07:28:48 PM
Did you notice the South Korean flag on his armour?
Wow! This will be the first time that Asians appear in outer space in large numbers. We saw lone Asians in the other films and t.v. series previously. That is, if we don't count the Japanese animations.
Firefly had the Asian culture have a pretty big influence on the future.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 16, 2015, 08:11:53 PM
Firefly had the Asian culture have a pretty big influence on the future.
Interesting. I'm surprised that I wasn't aware of these tv series. I don't see a lot of Asians in the cast list. I guess you mean just the cultural influence.
Looks like he is going for an aged Ripley and Hicks, and the power armor that supposedly Korean marine is wearing suggest that the movie still take place in an alternate future and timeline than the original one, i.e. Blomkamp is still touting the idea and concept of retconning A3 and A:R... Lame.
Seems to indicate some 'world-building' in evidence. I'm guessing Korea has been unified by the South in this future. The North Korean flag is different.
It's difficult to say whether those other two figures are a result of artistic choice or deliberately being stylised that way. It could be that they're absent of much detail just because they're meant to be random. On the other hand, they do have a slightly Engineer-esque appearance to them - although, too short to literally be interpreted as them.
Perhaps they're vat-created 'super-soldiers'? Maybe that's what Ripley is viewing - the creation of one? Perhaps they're using some of the black ooze found on the/a derelict craft in a refined form, to enhance human genetics? That could account for humanoid figures with Engineer-like facial similarities - assuming that's even what's meant to be represented on there. As I say, it could just be that they're meant to be unimportant background characters. Can't help but noticed they seem to have completely black eyes, like Engineers do, however.
Or perhaps they're cloning Engineers, themselves, taken from DNA of the original Space Jockey? Slightly modifying them on a genetic level, so that they're not as physically imposing. Would actually be a nice throw-back to '
Alien Resurrection' if they're doing it to gain access to memories stored on a genetic level!
It's a concept which has been done before. There's the great TV show, '
Space: Above And Beyond', which dealt with soldiers who had been grown in vats for a previous war, years before, with genetic modifications. There is, of course, '
Soldier'. But more relevantly, those of us who remember the '
Book Two' graphic novel, which predates those scripts, will remember that General Spears had that same concept as a part of his history: He was artificially grown and genetically enhanced to be trained, from birth, as a radically advanced soldier for the military of that time.
In regards to the Korean flag, I just remembered that the game, '
XCOM: Enemy Unknown', had soldiers wearing armour with a very small patch on the upper torso to represent the nationality of where that
specific individual member of the team. It could be that the Colonial Marines or a futuristic UN-like multi-national force is intervening and that this is just the uniform's way of indicating where he hails from.
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jul 16, 2015, 08:26:22 PM
Looks like he is going for an aged Ripley and Hicks, and the power armor that supposedly Korean marine is wearing suggest that the movie still take place in an alternate future and timeline than the original one, i.e. Blomkamp is still touting the idea and concept of retconning A3 and A:R... Lame.
Ripley/Hicks, we've talked about non-retcon possibilities for before. The new armour's existence doesn't retcon anything, though.
Quote from: Darkness on Jul 16, 2015, 07:28:48 PM
I wonder who the guys are behind them. Definitely not human but very different to the other alien figure Ripley was standing next to in the other artwork.
They both look human to me. Same kind of stylisation as Ripley in the foreground.
Quote from: Corporal HicksAlso the soldier has as very ODST look about him. Wonder what the faction is though...not W-Y. Maybe UPP?
I'm also getting a Halo vibe from that armor. Don't know if it's a good thing though.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 16, 2015, 08:45:47 PM
Quote from: Corporal HicksAlso the soldier has as very ODST look about him. Wonder what the faction is though...not W-Y. Maybe UPP?
I'm also getting a Halo vibe from that armor. Don't know if it's a good thing though.
I kind of feel like it might be so WETA could re-use the ODST armor.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 16, 2015, 08:34:43 PM
It's difficult to say whether those other two figures are a result of artistic choice or deliberately being stylised that way. It could be that they're absent of much detail just because they're meant to be random. On the other hand, they do have a slightly Engineer-esque appearance to them - although, too short to literally be interpreted as them.
Do not seen an Engineer influence in that all. :-\
Quote from: Shinawi on Jul 16, 2015, 08:17:30 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 16, 2015, 08:11:53 PM
Firefly had the Asian culture have a pretty big influence on the future.
Interesting. I'm surprised that I wasn't aware of these tv series. I don't see a lot of Asians in the cast list. I guess you mean just the cultural influence.
There were lots of Asians and Asian influences in Blade Runner. I wonder if Blomkamp is taking some inspiration from that film?
It would certainly be an interesting approach to take. Especially when the consider the whole side-squel thing in regards to Blade Runner and Alien.
just need to know one thing.when does this film actually enter production seriously cant wait.will be good when we get to see a trailer as too many films sometimes get canned.just hope that this doesn't happen this franchise needs a decent film unlike the alien 3 and resurrection abortions
I'm still not on board with the idea of retconning the series. It'd alienate the fans and be a huge, unnecessary risk (Terminator Genisys is a perfect example of this).
I also don't have much faith in Blomkamp to deliver a solid Alien movie after his last two films turned out so poorly. At best I'm hoping for a competently made film that gets more right then it gets wrong.
Just noticed another obvious Engineer-based aspect to those two figures. Not only do they both have those same black eyes, but they're both bald (again, just like the 'melting' figure in the other concept art, indicating they could be one and the same). Also seem to have the same bridge of nose as the Engineers do.
The black eyes and lack of hair seem too coincidental to be anything other than deliberate. Definitely an Engineer influence - and probably genetically altered, as I say, considering their shorter size and Ripley/Hicks seemingly being fine around them.
Alternatively, they could be human/Engineer hybrids - which might explain the shorter height.
They really appear to be just people to me.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 16, 2015, 09:46:09 PM
Just noticed another obvious Engineer-based aspect to those two figures. Not only do they both have those same black eyes, but they're both bald (again, just like the 'melting' figure in the other concept art, indicating they could be one and the same). Also seem to have the same bridge of nose as the Engineers do.
The black eyes and lack of hair seem too coincidental to be anything other than deliberate. Definitely an Engineer influence - and probably genetically altered, as I say, considering their shorter size and Ripley/Hicks seemingly being fine around them.
Alternatively, they could be human/Engineer hybrids - which might explain the shorter height.
Look again carefully, the guy directly behind Hicks has regular eyes (notice the white sclera and dark irises) with what looks like a slight epicanthic fold. The eyes of the man standing behind him is likely just in shadow.
They also look like they have very short buzz-cuts (marine style) rather than being completely bald like the Engineers.
And some other details I noticed:
Ellen Ripley is wearing the same kind of flight suit/jacket as Amanda in Alien: Isolation.
Notice the fur lined collar and round pins on her shirt collar:
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Hicks is also wearing a flight suit with a ship crew patch on his left shoulder. Perhaps they are both serving on a civilian vessel now?
Behind them are what appears to be shipping containers, perhaps this is a customs post where they are queuing?
This has probably been said, but the two "strange figures" behind them have me hoping we get to see some Arcturians. Very happy to hear that this project hasn't gone cold!
???
Strange figures? They look like people. Regular humans. The reason they look "strange" compared to Rip & Hix is that it is concept art and not a finished piece of artwork, and they are in the background hence being less detailed and thus seemingly looking different compared to Rip & Hix.
I assume that this new piece of concept art all but confirms the return of Hick's return to the franchise?? I mean, it's not like he can be this far along with his story and then release something like this without some kind of commitment from Michael Biehn, right?
Then again, the storyline for Alien3 was changed multiple times even after shooting began so I suppose anything is still possible...
;)
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jul 16, 2015, 10:54:57 PM
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Strange figures? They look like people. Regular humans. The reason they look "strange" compared to Rip & Hix is that it is concept art and not a finished piece of artwork, and they are in the background hence being less detailed and thus seemingly looking different compared to Rip & Hix.
Completely agree. I think people are over analyzing the background when the foreground should be the focus.
Regardless, looks good. I look forward to see how this incarnation takes shape. Let it not be another weak entry but the film we so truly desire.
Yutani = Korean?
The new art looks awesome but please Neil PLEASE DON´T SCREW ALIEN 5: I liked your first two films but Chappie was awful. Still I have faith you could make a movie really worth of the franchise. One more thing: My other concern if A5 would feature too many power armors for its sake.
Quote from: marrerom on Jul 16, 2015, 09:44:42 PM
I'm still not on board with the idea of retconning the series. It'd alienate the fans and be a huge, unnecessary risk (Terminator Genisys is a perfect example of this).
I also don't have much faith in Blomkamp to deliver a solid Alien movie after his last two films turned out so poorly. At best I'm hoping for a competently made film that gets more right then it gets wrong.
Terminator Genisys retconned two highly rated/hugely popular films. Alien 5 would be retconning two turkeys, one that seemingly no-one likes and one that has a cult following but was hammered by the critics...
Quote from: Rankles75 on Jul 16, 2015, 11:38:15 PM
Quote from: marrerom on Jul 16, 2015, 09:44:42 PM
I'm still not on board with the idea of retconning the series. It'd alienate the fans and be a huge, unnecessary risk (Terminator Genisys is a perfect example of this).
I also don't have much faith in Blomkamp to deliver a solid Alien movie after his last two films turned out so poorly. At best I'm hoping for a competently made film that gets more right then it gets wrong.
Terminator Genisys retconned two highly rated/hugely popular films. Alien 5 would be retconning two turkeys, one that seemingly no-one likes and one that has a cult following but was hammered by the critics...
In what universe are T3 and TS highly rated/hugely popular?
I like A3 and A:R quite a bit. They are both vastly superior to Prometheus anyway.
I was talking about the first two. I don't even acknowledge the existence of the other Terminator films...
That armor looks rather ungainly and Halo-y.
What happened to all of his older posts?
Why korea? That is so out of the blue :-\
So this is going to be Aliens Part 2 and he is going to put marines in Chappie armor.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 16, 2015, 08:45:47 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Jul 16, 2015, 07:28:48 PM
I wonder who the guys are behind them. Definitely not human but very different to the other alien figure Ripley was standing next to in the other artwork.
They both look human to me. Same kind of stylisation as Ripley in the foreground.
I am not saying that it was Arcturians, but it was Arcturians ;D
I'm 100% those background individuals are humans, nothing more. They may be some sort of Space Korean soldiers, which is why one has a mechanical suit and the other are bald. As for why there is a South Korean flag, who knows. The Colonial Marines are American,but I always sort of hoped that each film would take place farther and farther into the future and that connections to Earth would be little to none, but I don't really mind South Korea playing a role. It may be Yutani, but Yutani was always intended to be Japanese, and I'm not aware if it's a Korean last name. But I guess the Yutani could be named after a Korean who is of Japanese ancestry or perhaps Yutani just becomes a Korean last name in the future.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 16, 2015, 10:02:11 PM
Hicks is also wearing a flight suit with a ship crew patch on his left shoulder. Perhaps they are both serving on a civilian vessel now?
I imagine they'll have gone rogue and are operating under the radar with whatever means they can.
If those are Arcturians, it very much would matter if "yours was a male"...
I'm sure they're just meant to be human background characters. Not distinct enough to be intended to be anything else IMHO.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 17, 2015, 07:12:47 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 16, 2015, 10:02:11 PM
Hicks is also wearing a flight suit with a ship crew patch on his left shoulder. Perhaps they are both serving on a civilian vessel now?
I imagine they'll have gone rogue and are operating under the radar with whatever means they can.
I'm eager to find out how they get involved. Hicks' connections to the military maybe?
Quite probably. It's really easy to conceive that Hicks' would have those kind of connections. Probably people who left the military or people he had run ins with whilst in the service.
That leaves me to wonder why he gets Ripley involved. Is it simply because they shared the same ordeal? Maybe he needs a flight officer he can trust. Perhaps she's the one who gets him involved.
Can't wait to find out the status of their relationship. Have they kept in touch? Are they a couple? Or is this the first time they've met in 30 years?
I want to see Hicks kick somebody's ass. Overpower some guards, take their guns, shit like that.
Hehe, I was cautiously optimistic before, but now that Blomkamp has released another Rip n Hicks pic and said he's loving it, I really want to let my guard down and believe this is happening. I just need cast confirmation.
Exciting!
I'm loving Blomkampfs concept art. shows how much he wants it to look fantastic, but i'm still reticent about the possibilities of retconning the series
You know what - on first reaction I would expect it to be Ripley who gets it all kicked off but I'm not so sure any more. I either expect them both to go have gone off the grid or spent the last decades on some sort of crusade.
Really excited for this! And I think the background people are just regular humans/marines, detail was just left off their faces for concept-art purposes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07zYvkNYL8
Im done with this shit, Blomhack just ignoring Alien 3, my favorite Alien movie, in favor of fan-fiction, seems like he's not smart enough to figure out a better story than just wipe out the last 2 movies, f**k that shit
Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Jul 17, 2015, 03:24:40 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 16, 2015, 08:45:47 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Jul 16, 2015, 07:28:48 PM
I wonder who the guys are behind them. Definitely not human but very different to the other alien figure Ripley was standing next to in the other artwork.
They both look human to me. Same kind of stylisation as Ripley in the foreground.
I am not saying that it was Arcturians, but it was Arcturians ;D
;D
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Quote from: Beatnation on Jul 17, 2015, 11:56:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07zYvkNYL8
Im done with this shit, Blomhack just ignoring Alien 3, my favorite Alien movie, in favor of fan-fiction, seems like he's not smart enough to figure out a better story than just wipe out the last 2 movies, f**k that shit
....... dont expect to many people to agree with you (im not one of them) because these days you are not allowed to like something that just about everybody else hates, because how dare you have your own opinion about something, we certainly cant have that.......
Still not a fan of the amount of acid damage to Hick's face.
No where near that amount was ever shown in the film.
Meh
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jul 17, 2015, 11:28:45 AM
I'm loving Blomkampfs concept art. shows how much he wants it to look fantastic, but i'm still reticent about the possibilities of retconning the series
Quote from: Beatnation on Jul 17, 2015, 11:56:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07zYvkNYL8
Im done with this shit, Blomhack just ignoring Alien 3, my favorite Alien movie, in favor of fan-fiction, seems like he's not smart enough to figure out a better story than just wipe out the last 2 movies, f**k that shit
Blomkamp is a
very good visual director but his writings skills are pretty mediocre. Of course he's choosing to retcon the series instead of actually writing something creative. I believe that People who are expecting this film to be on par with Alien and Aliens will be disappointed. Those films had fantastic scripts.
Quote from: marrerom on Jul 17, 2015, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jul 17, 2015, 11:28:45 AM
I'm loving Blomkampfs concept art. shows how much he wants it to look fantastic, but i'm still reticent about the possibilities of retconning the series
Quote from: Beatnation on Jul 17, 2015, 11:56:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07zYvkNYL8
Im done with this shit, Blomhack just ignoring Alien 3, my favorite Alien movie, in favor of fan-fiction, seems like he's not smart enough to figure out a better story than just wipe out the last 2 movies, f**k that shit
Blomkamp is a very good visual director but his writings skills are pretty mediocre. Of course he's choosing to retcon the series instead of actually writing something creative. I believe that People who are expecting this film to be on par with Alien and Aliens will be disappointed. Those films had fantastic scripts.
This.
A5 will be exciting, fun and pleasant to look at but will probably lack heavily when it comes to everything else. It will be nowhere close to ALIEN or A3 in substance, and will most likely fall far behind ALIENS as well. But I don't think people will care. A5 will ride the whole "True ALIENS Sequel!1!" schtick to glory and will feed off of the gravitas and splendor of ALIENS. In the end it will successfully delete A3 and A:R and only future Alien geeks will know of and bother with A3 (..and A:R). Sad but true.
Quote from: Vermillion on Jul 17, 2015, 03:56:52 PM
Still not a fan of the amount of acid damage to Hick's face.
No where near that amount was ever shown in the film.
Meh
I agree. I don't like it, too.
Hicks didn't get splashed with
that much acid, and most of it went on his armor.
Does anyone else see a lot of similarities between the Terminator series and the Alien series? Each has two universally loved films and two later entry's that have had mixed receptions. Now each series is getting a reboot that retcons that last two films in in the hopes that it will lure the fans back with nostalgia (Although Genisys retconned all 4 previous films). They each have even brought back the original aging actors to reprise their roles.
Quote from: marrerom on Jul 17, 2015, 06:33:30 PM
Does anyone else see a lot of similarities between the Terminator series and the Alien series? Each has two universally loved films and two later entry's that have had mixed receptions. Now each series is getting a reboot that retcons that last two films in in the hopes that it will lure the fans back with nostalgia (Although Genisys retconned all 4 previous films). They each have even brought back the original aging actors to reprise their roles.
The difference is that time travel is a key component in the Terminator series. They can retcon and reboot as much as they without looking like an ass. IT's a part of the whole concept. The Alien series never even hinted to time travel and to include that now will change around things way too much to fit in.
Beatnation:
I also liked Alien 3 considering all the troubles and the mess that was the pre production stage, hell even it has its flaws I aconsider Resurrection worthy of the franchise.
As far as I know Neil said that he will not touch Alien 3 and Resurrection, so I guess hepll do an alternative universe a la Higlander TV series.
....... i believe that there were/are korean personel in weyland yutani but particuarly in Alien 3 you notice it in the personel arriving at the end of the movie.......
....... i like Alien 3, i dont love it but i like it. When i got the Alien Quadrology DVD set and i saw the "assembly cut" of Alien 3 my opinion on it changed dramactically.......
Quote from: Thomas on Jul 18, 2015, 01:49:30 AM
....... i believe that there were/are korean personel in weyland yutani but particuarly in Alien 3 you notice it in the personel arriving at the end of the movie.......
....... i like Alien 3, i dont love it but i like it. When i got the Alien Quadrology DVD set and i saw the "assembly cut" of Alien 3 my opinion on it changed dramactically.......
That's about the same time my opinion of alien 3 changed too! :-)
The background characters are definitely human. Although I really want to see what Arcturians are like. C'mon, FOX! No more teasing!
Also, I warmed up to Alien 3 and dislike Resurrection (that's pretty much the common mindset, although Alien 3 is sharply divided). Either way, it's looking like Blompkamp is going with alternative universe, which I can dig. As long as he hires the right writers to go with his excellent visuals, the movie will succeed. I don't think anyone will expect it to be better than Alien or Aliens. They just want a movie that they feel does "justice" to the series. "Good enough" is better than shite (Resurrection, AVP, AVP-R) that we've had to deal with for years.
Quote from: Jarac on Jul 18, 2015, 04:53:48 AM
The background characters are definitely human. Although I really want to see what Arcturians are like. C'mon, FOX! No more teasing!
Also, I warmed up to Alien 3 and dislike Resurrection (that's pretty much the common mindset, although Alien 3 is sharply divided). Either way, it's looking like Blompkamp is going with alternative universe, which I can dig. As long as he hires the right writers to go with his excellent visuals, the movie will succeed. I don't think anyone will expect it to be better tgan Alien or Aliens. They just want a movie that they feel does "justice" to the series. "Good enough" is better than shite (Resurrection, AVP, AVP-R) that we've had to deal with for years.
Hear, hear
Quote from: Thomas on Jul 18, 2015, 01:49:30 AM
....... i believe that there were/are korean personel in weyland yutani but particuarly in Alien 3 you notice it in the personel arriving at the end of the movie.......
Dr. Matshuita in Alien 3 is Japanese (albeit played by Chinese actor Hi Ching (credited as company man 1))
Interestingly, in Blade Runner there is a Korean cop in heavy body armour who tells Deckard , "
Hey, idi-wa", Korean for "Hey, come here".
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/34/9f/f8/349ff81032bd605748f711a24465b713.jpg)
I don't know what to say about the concept art.In one opinion I like the creative ideas but in a other hand I am getting worried about alien 3(it is retconning alien 3 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:()I mean zeno suit.
Quote from: Beatnation on Jul 17, 2015, 11:56:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07zYvkNYL8
Im done with this shit, Blomhack just ignoring Alien 3, my favorite Alien movie, in favor of fan-fiction, seems like he's not smart enough to figure out a better story than just wipe out the last 2 movies, f**k that shit
i agree, this isn't the Star Wars
legends EU where you can shove your fingers in your ears and just say "nope, not canon", either reboot the whole series or dont bother starting the bulldozer; this clown says "he has no ego" yet he seems to have more ego than Randy Pitchford (you better believe i went there) thinking he has the right to disregard two films in a series to please fanboys. yes, his concept art looks cool but it takes more than pretty concept art to reinvigorate a franchise thats been effectively dormant for almost 20 years(unless you count the avp films and "that ancient aliens movie with the albinos in elephant man spacesuits that resemble that fossil from the first film)
Quote from: swarm87 on Jul 19, 2015, 02:36:55 AM
Quote from: Beatnation on Jul 17, 2015, 11:56:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07zYvkNYL8
Im done with this shit, Blomhack just ignoring Alien 3, my favorite Alien movie, in favor of fan-fiction, seems like he's not smart enough to figure out a better story than just wipe out the last 2 movies, f**k that shit
i agree, this isn't the Star Wars legends EU where you can shove your fingers in your ears and just say "nope, not canon", either reboot the whole series or dont bother starting the bulldozer; this clown says "he has no ego" yet he seems to have more ego than Randy Pitchford (you better believe i went there) thinking he has the right to disregard two films in a series to please fanboys. yes, his concept art looks cool but it takes more than pretty concept art to reinvigorate a franchise thats been effectively dormant for almost 20 years(unless you count the avp films and "that ancient aliens movie with the albinos in elephant man spacesuits that resemble that fossil from the first film)
Alien Resurrection is the first Alien film I saw. I love that movie. Its not as good as the others but still very good. I feel the same about Alien 3. Both are hugely underrated and to disregard them is to do a disservice to the series.
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Quote from: Thomas on Jul 18, 2015, 01:49:30 AM
....... i believe that there were/are korean personel in weyland yutani but particuarly in Alien 3 you notice it in the personel arriving at the end of the movie.......
Dr. Matshuita in Alien 3 is Japanese (albeit played by Chinese actor Hi Ching (credited as company man 1))
Interestingly, in Blade Runner there is a Korean cop in heavy body armour who tells Deckard , "Hey, idi-wa", Korean for "Hey, come here".
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/34/9f/f8/349ff81032bd605748f711a24465b713.jpg)
That's really interesting. I watched
Blade Runner many years ago. So I forgot about the Korean cop. It makes me wonder what made Ridley Scott decide to have Koreans patrol his city. (I'm not against his decision since it's his movie and it's science fiction. And seeing a Korean in a controlling position like that in a British/American movie was very new and intriguing). Note that the Korean spoke in Korean to Deckard, not in English. It's as if the Koreans are in control of this city. Blade Runner is a 1982 film. This was long before South Korea became a wealthy and high tech country. In fact, South Korea used to have sweatshops in 1982. And the country was politically unstable, experiencing coups and oppression by the government. This was before South Korea hosted the Summer Olympics and the FIFA World Cup. I was a very young kid at that time, but I still remember that people didn't think much about Korea. I even know people who weren't even aware of that country. It seems so out of the blue that he chose Korea as the superpower in his film.
Or could it be that the Korean was acting as a mercenary for the Japanese? I remember a lot of Japanese cultural influence in the city.
Quote from: Shinawi on Jul 19, 2015, 11:54:28 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 18, 2015, 01:23:06 PM
Quote from: Thomas on Jul 18, 2015, 01:49:30 AM
....... i believe that there were/are korean personel in weyland yutani but particuarly in Alien 3 you notice it in the personel arriving at the end of the movie.......
Dr. Matshuita in Alien 3 is Japanese (albeit played by Chinese actor Hi Ching (credited as company man 1))
Interestingly, in Blade Runner there is a Korean cop in heavy body armour who tells Deckard , "Hey, idi-wa", Korean for "Hey, come here".
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/34/9f/f8/349ff81032bd605748f711a24465b713.jpg)
That's really interesting. I watched Blade Runner many years ago. So I forgot about the Korean cop. It makes me wonder what made Ridley Scott decide to have Koreans patrol his city. Note that the Korean spoke in Korean to Deckard, not in English. It's as if the Koreans are in control of this city. Blade Runner is a 1982 film. This was long before South Korea became a wealthy and high tech country. In fact, South Korea used to have sweatshops in 1982. And the country was politically unstable, experiencing coups and oppression by the government. This was before South Korea hosted the Summer Olympics and the FIFA World Cup. I was a very young kid at that time, but I still remember that people didn't think much about Korea. I even know people who weren't even aware of that country. It seems so out of the blue that he chose Korea as the superpower in his film.
Or could it be that the Korean was acting as a mercenary for the Japanese? I remember a lot of Japanese cultural influence in the city.
It could very well be that the Korean is a mercenary in Blade Runner (they are essentially rent-a-cops after all) as well as in Blomkamp's concept art.
South Korea (just like Israel) is basically a nation of warriors. There is compulsory military conscription for all men in South Korea. Young Korean men basically have a choice of either serving in the armed forces for two years or going to jail for two years.
In District 9 and Elysium Blomkamp had South African mercenaries. Same thing there, South Africa also used to have compulsory conscription for all white males. After it's transformation to democracy many white men found themselves without work. But one thing they all had in common was very good military training and that's how that country became infamous for it's mercenaries.
QuoteI remember a lot of Japanese cultural influence in the city.
Yes, you're quite right, it's mainly Japanese influences in the LA of 2019. During the early 80's Japan was doing very well, much like China today before the asset price bubble burst in the 90's. The joke was back then that Japan would one day own the entire USA.
But there is also lots of Chinese and Korean influences in Blade Runner if you look carefully.
This city owned utility tanker from Blade Runner for example has "Riddles" written on it in Korean. Presumably as nod to the director.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog-imgs-46.fc2.com%2F1%2F6%2F0%2F1608site%2F20120412102918add.gif&hash=55f0a93bcd0728b59ca715abe1bad11d93936661)
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 19, 2015, 12:38:27 PM
In District 9 and Elysium Blomkamp had South African mercenaries. Same thing there, South Africa also used to have compulsory conscription for all white males. After it's transformation to democracy many white men found themselves without work. But one thing they all had in common was very good military training and that's how that country became infamous for it's mercenaries.
Neill Blomkamp directed that part very well.
Quote from: swarm87 on Jul 19, 2015, 02:36:55 AM
i agree, this isn't the Star Wars legends EU where you can shove your fingers in your ears and just say "nope, not canon"
It is if Fox decrees it so.
Whether or not they
will, is another question. As is whether it will be better than the third film. We can but hope so.
I still maintain that Fox is gonna want to continue to sell blu-ray boxed sets with five films in there, not three.
Could be wrong of course, but it seems crazy for them to throw away revenue that A3 and AR could still generate.
Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Jul 19, 2015, 06:39:41 PM
I still maintain that Fox is gonna want to continue to sell blu-ray boxed sets with five films in there, not three.
Could be wrong of course, but it seems crazy for them to throw away revenue that A3 and AR could still generate.
I dunno man, I wouldn't put it past fox to throw them all into a box set anyway... They added prometheus to the box set even though it was supposed to be "same universe" rather than same story arc; and even further back (and even worse, imo), they threw predator 1, predator 2, avp, avp:r, and the alien quadrilogy into a box set. I'd fully expect fox to throw in the original alien quadrilogy, alien 5, prometheus, and prometheus 2 into a new box set, and maybe if we're lucky we'll get a Blu Ray menu animation that fills in any continuity errors/gaps... (The menu thing is a joke, lol).
Yeah, even menu stuff would depend on who they hired to do them.
You can go and get sets of all the 'Superman' films, including 'Superman Returns' - which was a retcon. Different studio, sure, but the precedent is there.
If this retcons anything, it won't stop them from selling the other films.
Ah, I did not know this. I'm not really into comic book movies, so this is my first experience with retconning.
Sure would be a dick move, though: "hey, we retconned these two movies because the majority hates 'em, but you have to buy them again if you want this set!" (with exclusive Special Features, no doubt.) :-\
Yea I believe that's the kind of thing they did with the 2 box sets I mentioned too.
They included an exclusive comic from dark horse for the alien/predator/avp box set
Then if I'm not mistaken, the Blu Ray box set for alien/prometheus included a brand new deleted scene that shows the ultimate fate of Burke.
I'd have no doubt that at least one new never before seen special feature will find its way into this new, inevitable "all inclusive" alien/prometheus box set.
PS. I'm surprised there wasn't some sort of box set that included A:CM, given how hard they pushed it as canon initially... Thank god they didn't!
Technically, it was Gearbox which kept hyping that. Fox seems to see endorsing something as canon as just a cheap way to make extra sales.
Wasn't there meant to have been some kind of official endorsement of the recent novel trilogy as being canon? Something else I can't accept other than as a 'what if'.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 19, 2015, 11:46:10 PM
Technically, it was Gearbox which kept hyping that. Fox seems to see endorsing something as canon as just a cheap way to make extra sales.
Wasn't there meant to have been some kind of official endorsement of the recent novel trilogy as being canon? Something else I can't accept other than as a 'what if'.
Yea, I suppose that is a better description of how fox and gearbox handled it...
Yes, I remember hearing a lot about fox endorsing the recent novel trilogy as canon too, but that sort of stopped once A:CM was released... Or at least that's the way it seemed to me. I haven't read the books yet, but I've heard enough about them to say that I'd probably feel the same way as you about it. The first two books in the trilogy in particular just seem like too much of a stretch for me, but the third one sounds like the best conceptually out of the trilogy.
The funny thing to me is, out of all the recent additions to the alien saga - games, books, etc... - the one which held the most promise and plausibility (in my opinion) never got the "canon" endorsement from fox! That would be alien: isolation. I understand why, I just think it's funny and ironic...
It looks as though Neil Blomkamp is going to tackle yet another childish political cliche's that no one is going to take seriously.
Or.. Samsung is advertising the movie but it seems unlikely.
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Quote from: Thomas on Jul 18, 2015, 01:49:30 AM
....... i believe that there were/are korean personel in weyland yutani but particuarly in Alien 3 you notice it in the personel arriving at the end of the movie.......
Dr. Matshuita in Alien 3 is Japanese (albeit played by Chinese actor Hi Ching (credited as company man 1))
Interestingly, in Blade Runner there is a Korean cop in heavy body armour who tells Deckard , "Hey, idi-wa", Korean for "Hey, come here".
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/34/9f/f8/349ff81032bd605748f711a24465b713.jpg)
That's really interesting. I watched Blade Runner many years ago. So I forgot about the Korean cop. It makes me wonder what made Ridley Scott decide to have Koreans patrol his city. (I'm not against his decision since it's his movie and it's science fiction. And seeing a Korean in a controlling position like that in a British/American movie was very new and intriguing). Note that the Korean spoke in Korean to Deckard, not in English. It's as if the Koreans are in control of this city. Blade Runner is a 1982 film. This was long before South Korea became a wealthy and high tech country. In fact, South Korea used to have sweatshops in 1982. And the country was politically unstable, experiencing coups and oppression by the government. This was before South Korea hosted the Summer Olympics and the FIFA World Cup. I was a very young kid at that time, but I still remember that people didn't think much about Korea. I even know people who weren't even aware of that country. It seems so out of the blue that he chose Korea as the superpower in his film.
Or could it be that the Korean was acting as a mercenary for the Japanese? I remember a lot of Japanese cultural influence in the city.
Who knows for sure if the cop was even Korean. Just because he spoke a Korean phrase doesn't necessarily mean he's Korean - in
Blade Runner, there is something called "city speak" which was a new language birthed from the culture mishmash melting pot of 2019 Los Angeles. In the same scene posted, Gaff speaks sentences to Deckard that are composed of Hungarian, Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, French, and German words and phrases.
I highly highly doubt it Ridley's use of the Korean "idi-wa" was a prediction/statement regarding the rise of South Korea so much as another facet of his statement regarding the totally multicultural state of LA in his movie.
Quote from: noname on Jul 20, 2015, 01:28:58 AM
It looks as though Neil Blomkamp is going to tackle yet another childish political cliche's that no one is going to take seriously.
Or.. Samsung is advertising the movie but it seems unlikely.
The presence of a Korean flag is your reasoning to assuming this will be another political cliche? The Alien series has always dabbled in predictions on the future or merging of various countries, whether it's Ron Cobb's concept art for a "United Americas" flag and a "Three World Empire" patch or the increasing influence of Japanese corporations in the Yutani aspect of Yutani...or in the kanji that's adorns Fury 161 all over.
Well, judging by his previous works it's safe to assume that he will be making the same mistake again.
Everybody seems to be forgetting Weaver clearly had a large amount of input on this, story element-wise.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 20, 2015, 06:52:37 PM
Everybody seems to be forgetting Weaver clearly had a large amount of input on this, story element-wise.
That's true but she had a lot of say in Alien 3 and Resurrection as well if I remember rightly
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jul 20, 2015, 07:10:34 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 20, 2015, 06:52:37 PM
Everybody seems to be forgetting Weaver clearly had a large amount of input on this, story element-wise.
That's true but she had a lot of say in Alien 3 and Resurrection as well if I remember rightly
Yes, she did. But correct me if I'm wrong, I think xenomorphine is implying that this will be less like all of Neil blomkamp's previous work because sigorney weaver will have a say in what story elements should be emphasized (i.e., political, etc..). So it's sort of unfair to assume that this will be exactly like his other work when we know at least 1 other person involved will be heavily influencing both the story and direction (weaver).
Does the new pic release mean filming has begun?
Nah - a set picture would be more of an indicator than artwork.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Jul 20, 2015, 02:53:13 AM
Who knows for sure if the cop was even Korean. Just because he spoke a Korean phrase doesn't necessarily mean he's Korean - in Blade Runner, there is something called "city speak" which was a new language birthed from the culture mishmash melting pot of 2019 Los Angeles. In the same scene posted, Gaff speaks sentences to Deckard that are composed of Hungarian, Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, French, and German words and phrases.
Good point but we know at least he was Asian. The Sushi Master and Chew both speak clean Japanese and Chinese respectively, so it's not too far fetched to assume the cop only spoke Korean.
Nice art but still not sold on the film.
I don't like the idea of giving the later films the boot and I'm still really worried that Blomkamp's gonna be writing it. Seriously, they better announce that someone's working with him on the script soon or else my expectations will drop quite a bit. Writing is not his strong suit.
Korean interest in mah aliens? Oh f**k no, say it ain't so. :P
Man guys I need a bucket.
Quote from: Engineer on Jul 20, 2015, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jul 20, 2015, 07:10:34 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 20, 2015, 06:52:37 PM
Everybody seems to be forgetting Weaver clearly had a large amount of input on this, story element-wise.
That's true but she had a lot of say in Alien 3 and Resurrection as well if I remember rightly
Yes, she did. But correct me if I'm wrong, I think xenomorphine is implying that this will be less like all of Neil blomkamp's previous work because sigorney weaver will have a say in what story elements should be emphasized (i.e., political, etc..). So it's sort of unfair to assume that this will be exactly like his other work when we know at least 1 other person involved will be heavily influencing both the story and direction (weaver).
That actually makes sense yeah.
Quote from: Engineer on Jul 20, 2015, 07:33:30 PM
Yes, she did. But correct me if I'm wrong, I think xenomorphine is implying that this will be less like all of Neil blomkamp's previous work because sigorney weaver will have a say in what story elements should be emphasized (i.e., political, etc..). So it's sort of unfair to assume that this will be exactly like his other work when we know at least 1 other person involved will be heavily influencing both the story and direction (weaver).
Well, that, but more importantly, don't forget she was repeatedly interviewed, over the years, as being involved in the informal talks between Cameron and Scott for their brain-storming sessions for an '
Alien 5'. It's unlikely Cameron will ever reveal what he had written, so far, for that, but Weaver strikes me as the kind of creative individual to have thought it a shame a lot of those ideas never made it to the screen. I could definitely see her speaking candidly with Blomkamp in private, about all the 'what ifs' which had been spoken about. Heck, if he's half the fan he says he is, I'd have
expected him to ask about those!
So, my feeling is that this will contain more than a few elements of what we
could have had for the Cameron/Scott project. Blomkamp seems like the kind of imaginative soul to take some of those ideas, run with and modify them, based on what Weaver told him she would have liked to have been involved with, back then.
When you mix this with Scott being a producer, it doesn't seem unlikely... The only thing missing is for news to be leaked about Cameron being 'consulted' about this.
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Quote from: Engineer on Jul 20, 2015, 07:33:30 PM
Yes, she did. But correct me if I'm wrong, I think xenomorphine is implying that this will be less like all of Neil blomkamp's previous work because sigorney weaver will have a say in what story elements should be emphasized (i.e., political, etc..). So it's sort of unfair to assume that this will be exactly like his other work when we know at least 1 other person involved will be heavily influencing both the story and direction (weaver).
Well, that, but more importantly, don't forget she was repeatedly interviewed, over the years, as being involved in the informal talks between Cameron and Scott for their brain-storming sessions for an 'Alien 5'. It's unlikely Cameron will ever reveal what he had written, so far, for that, but Weaver strikes me as the kind of creative individual to have thought it a shame a lot of those ideas never made it to the screen. I could definitely see her speaking candidly with Blomkamp in private, about all the 'what ifs' which had been spoken about. Heck, if he's half the fan he says he is, I'd have expected him to ask about those!
So, my feeling is that this will contain more than a few elements of what we could have had for the Cameron/Scott project. Blomkamp seems like the kind of imaginative soul to take some of those ideas, run with and modify them, based on what Weaver told him she would have liked to have been involved with, back then.
When you mix this with Scott being a producer, it doesn't seem unlikely... The only thing missing is for news to be leaked about Cameron being 'consulted' about this.
Good points! I remain cautiously optimistic, but after this comment, I think my optimism is stretching a little farther now! :-)
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 21, 2015, 12:45:25 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Jul 20, 2015, 07:33:30 PM
Yes, she did. But correct me if I'm wrong, I think xenomorphine is implying that this will be less like all of Neil blomkamp's previous work because sigorney weaver will have a say in what story elements should be emphasized (i.e., political, etc..). So it's sort of unfair to assume that this will be exactly like his other work when we know at least 1 other person involved will be heavily influencing both the story and direction (weaver).
Well, that, but more importantly, don't forget she was repeatedly interviewed, over the years, as being involved in the informal talks between Cameron and Scott for their brain-storming sessions for an 'Alien 5'. It's unlikely Cameron will ever reveal what he had written, so far, for that, but Weaver strikes me as the kind of creative individual to have thought it a shame a lot of those ideas never made it to the screen. I could definitely see her speaking candidly with Blomkamp in private, about all the 'what ifs' which had been spoken about. Heck, if he's half the fan he says he is, I'd have expected him to ask about those!
So, my feeling is that this will contain more than a few elements of what we could have had for the Cameron/Scott project. Blomkamp seems like the kind of imaginative soul to take some of those ideas, run with and modify them, based on what Weaver told him she would have liked to have been involved with, back then.
When you mix this with Scott being a producer, it doesn't seem unlikely... The only thing missing is for news to be leaked about Cameron being 'consulted' about this.
Simply ace Xeno! A very good response. I agree. You just *KNOW* that Blomkamp has asked about Ridley and Cameron's Alien sequel ideas. Hell, being Ridley is executive producing, I wouldn't be surprised for him getting story credit along with Cameron, Blomkamp and Weaver!
Quote from: LiquidMonster on Jul 21, 2015, 03:26:22 PMYou just *KNOW* that Blomkamp has asked about Ridley and Cameron's Alien sequel ideas.
Why on Earth would he do that? I think he's been very clear that this story is his baby, and it's an idea he's had for a long time.
I knew Ridley Scott was involved as a producer, but I had it in my head that his story suggestions were strictly to keep things in line with prometheus 2. I hadn't even considered the possibility of Ridley offering up suggestions from his own alien 5 treatment...
HuDaFuK - I vaguely recall reading somewhere that blomkamp had made some story changes to his base-idea after talking with Ridley Scott. I'm just not sure if those story changes were minor or major...
Seem to recall something about the story being heavily influenced by Weaver when they talked together. Don't remember the exact quote, but it was around that time when the project took on full traction.
Quote from: Engineer on Jul 21, 2015, 04:21:14 PMHuDaFuK - I vaguely recall reading somewhere that blomkamp had made some story changes to his base-idea after talking with Ridley Scott. I'm just not sure if those story changes were minor or major...
Blomkamp implied those were changes imposed by Ridley to stop any conflict with
Prometheus 2, but he said they were fairly minor.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 21, 2015, 04:34:13 PM
Seem to recall something about the story being heavily influenced by Weaver when they talked together. Don't remember the exact quote, but it was around that time when the project took on full traction.
Yeah, Ripley wasn't going to be in it at all until he worked with her on Chappie. Essentially it was Weaver who changed his mind regarding the inclusion of Ripley.
QuoteHell, being Ridley is executive producing, I wouldn't be surprised for him getting story credit along with Cameron, Blomkamp and Weaver!
Ridley has never written a screenplay before (discounting his student film). You probably don't want him near a script anymore than Blomkamp.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jul 21, 2015, 05:06:25 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Jul 21, 2015, 04:21:14 PMHuDaFuK - I vaguely recall reading somewhere that blomkamp had made some story changes to his base-idea after talking with Ridley Scott. I'm just not sure if those story changes were minor or major...
Blomkamp implied those were changes imposed by Ridley to stop any conflict with Prometheus 2, but he said they were fairly minor.
That's pretty much what I had heard. But you never know; if Ridley had his own ideas for alien 5, he and/or weaver could have easily influenced blomkamp's story with suggestions. I don't think his story was (or is) set in stone yet, but I could be wrong about that too I guess...
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 21, 2015, 05:31:14 PM
Yeah, Ripley wasn't going to be in it at all until he worked with her on Chappie. Essentially it was Weaver who changed his mind regarding the inclusion of Ripley.
Something like that, yeah. Everyone seems to be name-calling Blomkamp because Ripley and Hicks have featured so heavily in the concept art, but it's more likely that was a result of alterations resulting from Weaver discussions.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 21, 2015, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 21, 2015, 05:31:14 PM
Yeah, Ripley wasn't going to be in it at all until he worked with her on Chappie. Essentially it was Weaver who changed his mind regarding the inclusion of Ripley.
Something like that, yeah. Everyone seems to be name-calling Blomkamp because Ripley and Hicks have featured so heavily in the concept art, but it's more likely that was a result of alterations resulting from Weaver discussions.
Now THAT, I did not know!! :-)
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 21, 2015, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 21, 2015, 05:31:14 PM
Yeah, Ripley wasn't going to be in it at all until he worked with her on Chappie. Essentially it was Weaver who changed his mind regarding the inclusion of Ripley.
Something like that, yeah. Everyone seems to be name-calling Blomkamp because Ripley and Hicks have featured so heavily in the concept art, but it's more likely that was a result of alterations resulting from Weaver discussions.
Now thats an interesting factoid.
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jul 22, 2015, 09:48:43 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jul 21, 2015, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jul 21, 2015, 05:31:14 PM
Yeah, Ripley wasn't going to be in it at all until he worked with her on Chappie. Essentially it was Weaver who changed his mind regarding the inclusion of Ripley.
Something like that, yeah. Everyone seems to be name-calling Blomkamp because Ripley and Hicks have featured so heavily in the concept art, but it's more likely that was a result of alterations resulting from Weaver discussions.
Now thats an interesting factoid.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/02/25/neill-blomkamp-talks-alien/
QuoteNEILL BLOMKAMP: It did have to do with having Sigourney on Chappie. It's just something that I've always wanted to one day be a part of. Those first two [Alien] films are probably my favorite films ever made. I didn't know if it would ever happen. I just always wanted to participate in it if I was able to.
Over the years, I came up with a story for a film in that universe that I wanted to make. And then when I talked to her about her experience making those films and what she thought about Ripley and everything else, it informed and changed the film I wanted to make into something different.
It just sort of stuck with me. A year later, when post-production was winding down on Chappie, I started fleshing out the idea for a film that would contain Sigourney. Fox never knew. I just worked on it when I could. Before I knew it, I had this really awesome film with a lot of artwork and a lot of backstory. And then I didn't know whether I was going to make it or not. So I just kind of sat on it for a while."
Originally he was planning a sequel to Alien 3 which would have precluded Ripley and Hick's inclusion.
QuoteMy apprehension with Alien was that I had never worked with someone else's material. And not even someone else – at this point it was like... I'm going to count Fincher in with the third one. They're all three awesome filmmakers. So it's not about living up to it and being nervous about it, I just don't want other people to tell me what to do. Which is a different thing. 'Well we think in this film this should happen because it happened in that one.' That kind of scared me a little bit so then I was like 'I'm just not going to do it, I'm just going to put it out.' But then I spoke to Sigourney [Weaver]. And I love Sigourney and her wanting to execute the story that I wrote, and she thinks it's the right story for Ripley. So I was like 'Nah, I'm fully going to do this.'
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/04/how-district-9-director-neill-blomkamp-got-the-alien-gig (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/04/how-district-9-director-neill-blomkamp-got-the-alien-gig)
So those going on about how he is just a Hix & N00t fanboi, it's not that clear-cut.
Lol N00t
all of this is fantastic stuff and has me stoked for the release date!
Quote from: Mulosba on Jul 24, 2015, 04:41:52 AM
all of this is fantastic stuff and has me stoked for the release date!
This has made me worried
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Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Jul 20, 2015, 02:53:13 AM
Who knows for sure if the cop was even Korean. Just because he spoke a Korean phrase doesn't necessarily mean he's Korean - in Blade Runner, there is something called "city speak" which was a new language birthed from the culture mishmash melting pot of 2019 Los Angeles. In the same scene posted, Gaff speaks sentences to Deckard that are composed of Hungarian, Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, French, and German words and phrases.
Good point but we know at least he was Asian. The Sushi Master and Chew both speak clean Japanese and Chinese respectively, so it's not too far fetched to assume the cop only spoke Korean.
Both also spoke English. Korean phrase could've been part of cityspeak. Just because someone is Asian doesn't mean they can only speak one language.
Non-sequitur: just wanna nominate MrSpaceJockey for coolest avatar and sig. Carry on. 8)
;D ;D ;D thanks mate
I've just updated this picture in our Alien 5 gallery with the fullsize one: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=346
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/alien5_mercenaries.jpg)
Looking at side by side comparisons of two pictures, I believe that the cocooned man is actually Hicks. It does seem to resemble his face, hence Ripley's shock.
It looked more like the facial features of those two/three Engineer-looking personages.
And if they have got some Engineer DNA in them, that could also explain why those two and the cocooned one is bald.
In fact, with a closer look at the two featured on the above picture, they seem to be wearing the same suit of armour as the one standing in the foreground.
It will definitely be interesting to see how much of Prometheus creeps into Alien 5.
The less it does the better.
Well, that seems a tad harsh. Though I seem to recall seeing on here an interview with Blomkamp with him saying that he wouldn't step on the toes of Prometheus 2? Not sure what that means, though.
Blomkamp had to adjust his idea to account for Prometheus after the concept art was released, so I doubt that any influence from that film is intentional.
Quote from: Kelgaard on Aug 31, 2015, 03:15:20 AM
Blomkamp had to adjust his idea to account for Prometheus after the concept art was released, so I doubt that any influence from that film is intentional.
Maybe no intentional influences from Prometheus 2, but there could still be from Prometheus 1...
Let me put it this way, those people are NOT Engineers or Engineer hybrids. Speculating otherwise is just a distraction at this point, imo.
Quote from: Kelgaard on Aug 31, 2015, 03:50:06 AM
Let me put it this way, those people are NOT Engineers or Engineer hybrids. Speculating otherwise is just a distraction at this point, imo.
I completely agree. I think it's just an artifact of the artistic style. Just saying in general that the movie could potentially contain Prometheus influences as a result of the first film... But I don't see the concept art that way at all. :-)
Indeed. They're just background characters with less detail. I seriously doubt they are intended to be Engineers.
Quote from: Kelgaard on Aug 31, 2015, 03:50:06 AM
Let me put it this way, those people are NOT Engineers or Engineer hybrids. Speculating otherwise is just a distraction at this point, imo.
I still say that the basic facial similarities, mostly black eyes and carbon copy baldness may be an indicator of something. Some kind of partial Engineer influence
would make sense, considering the presence of a recovered derelict craft.
And I also think the similarity to the cocooned/melting figure's head means it's one of those same humanoid figures.
There's actually a surprising amount of small details in that concept art, if they're just meant to be generic figures (who
should be depicted with hair if they're just random humans).
It's as relevant a speculative theory as anything else. :) More so when factoring in the wrecked craft.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 31, 2015, 03:57:36 PM
I still say that the basic facial similarities, mostly black eyes and carbon copy baldness may be an indicator of something. Some kind of partial Engineer influence would make sense, considering the presence of a recovered derelict craft.
Here is a high contrast version that clearly shows human eyes on the left figure. It also looks like he has a buzz-cut. The eyes of the bloke on the right is probably in shadow.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1028.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy347%2FTheEighthPassenger%2Falien5_mercenaries_close-up_zpspdpv0maj.jpg&hash=e7a3e53482fef8e1819547a1d768ec8d86db5578)
QuoteAnd if they have got some Engineer DNA in them, that could also explain why those two and the cocooned one is bald.
Didn't Prometheus say human and Engineer DNA are exactly the same? Something like "DNA Match 100%"? :P
I can't believe you're getting hung up on speed painted background figures. Hicks and Ripley are clearly based on photo grabs the other's are just sketched in. Take in from me as a pro illustrator, that is what it is.
Does it happen that the delivered movie has nothing to do with the concept art ? If yes, how often ? Thanks for your replies
Quote from: PrimitifAlien on Oct 02, 2015, 07:22:01 AM
Does it happen that the delivered movie has nothing to do with the concept art ? If yes, how often ? Thanks for your replies
All the time. Prometheus is a recent example of this for us. Just depends on the project.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 02, 2015, 08:14:13 AM
Quote from: PrimitifAlien on Oct 02, 2015, 07:22:01 AM
Does it happen that the delivered movie has nothing to do with the concept art ? If yes, how often ? Thanks for your replies
All the time. Prometheus is a recent example of this for us. Just depends on the project.
I agree with the corporal. Especially when it comes to Blomkamp it seems.
Below is some concept art that was done for Blomkamp's Elysium. If you've seen the film then you'll know most of this wasn't in it or otherwise radically altered:
Spoiler
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Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 02, 2015, 11:57:31 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 02, 2015, 08:14:13 AM
Quote from: PrimitifAlien on Oct 02, 2015, 07:22:01 AM
Does it happen that the delivered movie has nothing to do with the concept art ? If yes, how often ? Thanks for your replies
All the time. Prometheus is a recent example of this for us. Just depends on the project.
I agree with the corporal. Especially when it comes to Blomkamp it seems.
Below is some concept art that was done for Blomkamp's Elysium. If you've seen the film then you'll know most of this wasn't in it or otherwise radically altered:
Spoiler
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All that would have made it a completely different movie
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 02, 2015, 11:57:31 AM
Below is some concept art that was done for Blomkamp's Elysium. If you've seen the film then you'll know most of this wasn't in it or otherwise radically altered:
Spoiler
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Indeed (just finished watching it now). I would have almost never guessed it was Elysium hadn't you mentionned it. Thanks again for the C.A.
I enjoyed it, but while I'm no cinema expert, I felt that it was such an eye-unfriendly movie, not in terms of aesthetics but in terms of constant parading shots and camera movement. Slow motions were such a relief, and this issue for Alien 5 would almost marginalise the Alien³/Ressurection retcon one.
I hope his other movies are more easy on the eyes.