Xenomorph vs Neomorph vs Deacon

[Kradan]

Why?

[Huggs]

If a deacon grows anywhere from 2-3 times it's birth size at minimum, it could probably rip a neomorph in half.

[Samhain13]

Huh, considering the deacon was born from an Engineer it might get to a size and strength that will offer an advantage over the neos and xenos we saw. If they are all from the same type of host, then probably the xenomorph would win in a fight.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Covenant had a deleted scripted scene showing the Alien killing the Neomorph before getting onboard the ship at the end.

That scene is present on the Covenant's novelization. That's m'boy ADF. The Neo doesn't last long.

[Local Trouble]

Sounds like something right out of the Gibson's A3 script.

[Samhain13]

Now I'm wondering if a neomorph or deacon could be used as host by a xenomorph. Could a facehugger rape those? 

[LastSurvivor92]

You guys have a good point. Depending on the size of the Deacon when it fully matures it could tear apart a Xenomorph or Neomorph.

[Huggs]

You guys have a good point. Depending on the size of the Deacon when it fully matures it could tear apart a Xenomorph or Neomorph.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/a/ad/Deacon_concept_by_aramv55-d5gsv87.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170909191301

That's what I'm saying.

Look how tiny the oram burster was. It grew how many times it's birth size?

The deacon was born huge, and one of them apparently was scary enough to have several engineers running for their lives. And I wager a military-type engineer could possibly fight a regulation xenomorph due to their own height, strength and biomechanical armor. Comics aside, a fully grown deacon could be like the rogue in size. It might just rip the others in half.

Even if it only grew 2-3 feet taller than its host (like a xeno) that's still a massive alien.

[The Old One]

The birth of the Deacon flashes, glimpses-
I believe it's meant to give us the impression it's growing at a alarming momentum.
Instead of a completely CGI creation the viewer witnesses grow, as with the Neomorph.

So the final visual we see of the Deacon as it roars.
(A identical roar as the temple hologram executed) is the Deacon's final form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fILmry65JBg

[Nostromo]

I really thought the neomorph was going to transform into this and stalk some temples. Beluga-Xenomorph https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Beluga-Xenomorph

[The Old One]

It did. Just lacked the translucency unfortunately and fortunately replaced the mouth design.

[Huggs]

The birth of the Deacon flashes, glimpses-
I believe it's meant to give us the impression it's growing at a alarming momentum.
Instead of a completely CGI creation the viewer witnesses grow, as with the Neomorph.

So the final visual we see of the Deacon as it roars.
(A identical roar as the temple hologram executed) is the Deacon's final form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fILmry65JBg

I didn't notice any growth. I figure it's just a newborn analyzing its environment and trying to roar for the first time. It took two tries as I recall. The roar could've been a deacon just being born from one of their buddies and they all just ran like hell when they saw it.

In the Alien franchise, things have historically grown considerably bigger after their birth.

[The Old One]

I believe the Deacon already has, compare the birthed Deacon laying near the Engineer carcass as it's first born.
Then when it's looking around, it's grown considerably.
But it's just all it is.

It's no monster, just an unloved child lol.
But seriously, the fantasy it turns into a great humongous beast, I don't believe so.

I don't buy that's Ridley Scott or anyone else's intent,
going by the concept art and everything discussed concerning it.

[SM]

I really thought the neomorph was going to transform into this and stalk some temples. Beluga-Xenomorph https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Beluga-Xenomorph

The Beluga-Head name has been purloined for the Stage IV Abomination in the new RPG.  The description matches the WETA version of the Fifield monster.

[Huggs]

The unusual thing is that the engineer seemed dead when the deacon was born.

Although the runner is born from a dead cow in the assembly cut, it's born at significant size from a dog in the theatrical. So does host death effect size?

[Nostromo]

I really thought the neomorph was going to transform into this and stalk some temples. Beluga-Xenomorph https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Beluga-Xenomorph

The Beluga-Head name has been purloined for the Stage IV Abomination in the new RPG.  The description matches the WETA version of the Fifield monster.

At least somebody kept it around Pretty fkin cool trailer btw, is this game playable alone or need at least 2 people?