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Title: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 23, 2015, 12:19:41 AM
Not sure if this comment is intended as a serious response or if it is a sort of joke due to their association with the films that he is planning on retconning, but either way I thought it was worth posting since it's coming aright from Blomkamp's Twitter account that we've been getting a lot of other news from in regards to this project.

https://twitter.com/NeillBlomkamp/status/578003404351406080 (https://twitter.com/NeillBlomkamp/status/578003404351406080)

If it is true, I have no complaints. ADI can do and have done some truly excellent work. I'm sure they could do an excellent job creating a Giger-esque Alien under Blomkamp's direction. That being said, I still wouldn't be surprised to see Weta Workshop on board for the practical effects.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: bioweapon on Mar 23, 2015, 05:25:02 AM
What they did for the Thing prequel and A3 was great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdgqRf86rcQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdgqRf86rcQ)
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 23, 2015, 05:43:27 AM
I honestly can't tell if he's joking or not. The wording is strange.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 23, 2015, 07:03:56 AM
He's saying "ADI it is, sir".

I'm perfectly fine with ADI. Their work on 'Alien3' was great, and the Wolf Predator in AvPR ruled. They've also done a TON of awesome work on other unrelated projects.
Some of their other stuff was questionable in Resurrection and the AvP movies, but I chalk a lot of that up to "director preference". ADI did what the directors wanted, I can't hold that against them.

I'm really looking forward to seeing how Harbinger Down turns out. They just wrapped editing and everything, apparently the movie comes out around November of this year.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Xhan on Mar 23, 2015, 07:26:33 AM
Their work on the thing was solid, most of everything else they've done has been not solid or more along solid waste.

Quotedirector

Makings of say otherwise. They presented ranges of generally subpar designs that people picked from and in Res's case they had almost carte blanche and what they came up with was horrendous by any definition.

They generally get monsters, they don't really get the Alien-by-concept, and the "homages" border on deviantart clumsy.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 23, 2015, 08:23:45 AM
QuoteThey presented ranges of generally subpar designs that people picked from and in Res's case they had almost carte blanche and what they came up with was horrendous by any definition.
It baffles me that the directors would look at the designs ADI was offering and not say, "Can you make it more like the first two films? As in, good?" and ADI wouldn't do it. If the directors didn't do that, that's on them. Or if they did do that and ADI said "nope, we can't do it" (despite them, you know, doing it with 'Alien3'), it's still on the directors for not exercising control over their own movies.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: whiterabbit on Mar 23, 2015, 11:41:28 AM
I don't know what to think about this. What I saw, to me, wasn't inspiring. Of course it was just a quickie session but, meh.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 23, 2015, 11:58:06 AM
Off topic but hahahaha... looking at some of his earlier tweets, seems like Wired won't be getting any more exclusive interviews with Blomkamp!  :laugh:
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Gash on Mar 23, 2015, 07:02:32 PM
Quote from: bioweapon on Mar 23, 2015, 05:25:02 AM
What they did for the Thing prequel and A3 was great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdgqRf86rcQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdgqRf86rcQ)

That would have looked a lot better if they'd gone to the trouble of finding a tall, skinny guy. Then it wouldn't even have come down to movement, it would have looked otherwordly just standing there.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Xenomorphine on Mar 23, 2015, 08:06:01 PM
That video reminds me of how weirdly thick the legs and arms were, not just the neck. That costume needed a lot more work on it.

They've done some very impressive stuff elsewhere, but Blomkamp is like Cameron, in so far as he's a designer who apparently likes to get hands-on, himself. ADI could hugely benefit from a personality like that.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: NickisSmart on Mar 24, 2015, 12:39:36 AM
ADI has a bad tendency of getting their work replaced with digital. Their amazing work for the Thing was utterly ruined by that.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Xenomrph on Mar 24, 2015, 02:37:34 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 23, 2015, 11:58:06 AM
Off topic but hahahaha... looking at some of his earlier tweets, seems like Wired won't be getting any more exclusive interviews with Blomkamp!  :laugh:
Could you elaborate on that?

Quote from: NickisSmart on Mar 24, 2015, 12:39:36 AM
ADI has a bad tendency of getting their work replaced with digital. Their amazing work for the Thing was utterly ruined by that.
That's only when the studio steps in and starts meddling.

And to be honest, as awesome as their practical stuff was for 'The Thing' prequel, I didn't have a problem with the CGI (especially on repeat viewings).
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: NickisSmart on Mar 24, 2015, 04:05:08 AM
In and of itself, the digital effects kind of work. But compared to the practical stuff, I just can't understand why the studio made the change. : (
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 24, 2015, 11:05:35 PM
I do think ADI take far more stick than they deserve to. Their work in AvP/R was just recycled from AR to save costs. I think with a director like Blomkamp who likes to get his hands on, they will probably create a really nice Alien-esque approach for this. Just a hunch, of course, but just from the way Blomkamp is talking about Alien and Isolation, I certainly see a return to that appearance.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 24, 2015, 11:14:22 PM
Absolutely agreed.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: The Cruentus on Mar 25, 2015, 03:28:49 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 23, 2015, 12:19:41 AM
Not sure if this comment is intended as a serious response or if it is a sort of joke due to their association with the films that he is planning on retconning, but either way I thought it was worth posting since it's coming aright from Blomkamp's Twitter account that we've been getting a lot of other news from in regards to this project.

https://twitter.com/NeillBlomkamp/status/578003404351406080 (https://twitter.com/NeillBlomkamp/status/578003404351406080)

If it is true, I have no complaints. ADI can do and have done some truly excellent work. I'm sure they could do an excellent job creating a Giger-esque Alien under Blomkamp's direction. That being said, I still wouldn't be surprised to see Weta Workshop on board for the practical effects.

Ditto, ADI have done good work and they shouldn't be targeted by angry fans just because they had to do what they were told. I have no issue with them working on  Alien V, I just hope the director wants the Aliens to go back to their original bio-mechanical design.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: LiquidMonster on Apr 05, 2015, 11:50:38 AM
I want Winston Studios to handle the practical effects. I've not been impressed at all with ADI's handing of the Alien effects work(and yeah, I know they were originally from Winston Studios..)
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Bat Chain Puller on Apr 05, 2015, 03:11:55 PM
They only make the monster effects. They need a director who knows how to shoot them.

That being said ... I hope they get away from the Pumpkinhead-esque signature evolution of the alien since AlienĀ³. They end up looking more and more like bio-mechanical dinosaurs with every film.

Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: razeak on Apr 05, 2015, 04:21:06 PM
Meh, they don't have much of a bio-mechanical look to them. Just dinosaur.

I hope ADI doesn't use those designs. Space raptor fail.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 05, 2015, 11:00:43 PM
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Apr 05, 2015, 03:11:55 PM
They only make the monster effects. They need a director who knows how to shoot them.

That being said ... I hope they get away from the Pumpkinhead-esque signature evolution of the alien since AlienĀ³. They end up looking more and more like bio-mechanical dinosaurs with every film.

With Blomkamp at the helm and everything he's been saying, I'm definitely expecting a return to Alien and/or Aliens style designs.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: NickisSmart on Apr 06, 2015, 01:59:47 AM
I want a transparent forehead, in order to see the skull beneath.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2015, 08:46:59 AM
You know what'd be refreshing? Seeing different designs of adult Aliens (not Queen or Predalien) together in frame.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 07, 2015, 09:55:07 PM
The only work I like from them is The Runner and...eh, no, just the Runner. Never liked ANY of their other designs at all and ADI guys are too pompous for my tastes so I would go with them, but Im open minded
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: slaysaliens on Apr 09, 2015, 03:13:58 AM
ADI rocks, has the tools & the talent.  Plus, the years of experience working w/ Stan Winston.
Paul Anderson, Jean-Pierre Jeunet, The Brothers Strause however - had horrible creature visions and truly limited them in their potential.  Given source material from someone like H.R. Giger like in Alien3, you can see how great that creature suit came out.  They just need the proper amount of freedom.

Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: StrangeShape on Apr 11, 2015, 09:45:11 PM
Quote from: slaysaliens on Apr 09, 2015, 03:13:58 AM
ADI rocks, has the tools & the talent.  Plus, the years of experience working w/ Stan Winston

3-4 years. They do have talent as far as sculpting, sketching and puppeteering, but not in designs. Thats all a matter of personal taste, but I never liked any of their designs (sans the Runner), even when they had a complete freedom
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: The Cruentus on Apr 12, 2015, 02:10:10 PM
Unfortunately they don't really have any power, they got to do what the directors or studio wants, ADI are talented, they just need to work for someone who doesn't make them do designs that are disliked, Resurrection designs are good when looked at on its own and with the context that they are hybrids, not true Xenomorphs, but these designs are wrong for "pure" Xenomorphs hence the dislike of them in AVP.

I have no issue with them working on Alien V, hopefully they will deliver the bio-mechanical giger design.
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: Kel G 426 on Apr 14, 2015, 03:49:55 PM
I've always felt like ADI inherited their Alien movie gigs more than they earned them.  "These guys did the last one, guess we'll use them."
Title: Re: ADI to work on Blomkamp's Alien?
Post by: TheBATMAN on Apr 14, 2015, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Kelgaard on Apr 14, 2015, 03:49:55 PM
I've always felt like ADI inherited their Alien movie gigs more than they earned them.  "These guys did the last one, guess we'll use them."

I agree completely. Please, please give someone else a go.