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Title: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Anthony on Feb 28, 2017, 11:21:14 PM
Unfortulnately I can't upload a screenshot. Here's a link to the leaked trailer (his credit is at 2:28) :

Link removed at request of 20th Century Fox.

Only credits I could find for him is that he worked on Edge Of Tomorrow and is writing the Venom stand alone film at Sony.
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Enoch on Feb 28, 2017, 11:23:01 PM
Indeed, that is a new thing...
What does it mean...
Maybe he wrote those reshoots... or what?
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Anthony on Feb 28, 2017, 11:24:20 PM
Wouldn't be the first time a writer was credited for reshoots (I.E.: Tony Gilroy for Rogue One)
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Feb 28, 2017, 11:46:33 PM
Good find Ant. 8)
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 28, 2017, 11:48:48 PM
Nice catch. Not sure which Dante Harper though. There was one who was writing Venom, one who is writing the new Akira and apparently worked on Edge of Tomorrow but isn't credited on IMDB.
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Anthony on Feb 28, 2017, 11:50:31 PM
It's the same Harper that worked on both Edge and Venom (and an old Akira draft) :

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/spiderman-spinoff-venom-screenwriter-1201723111/




Also, I had no idea Harper worked on the Forever War film. I also find that funny since Jon Spaihts (Prometheus writer back when it was more Alien like) now writing it.
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 01, 2017, 01:26:21 AM
Its not a very encouraging sign when a movie has near 4 credited writers, there are a few exceptions.
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Symon Joestar on Mar 01, 2017, 01:29:37 AM
Interesting, Edge of Tomorrow is a good adaptation of manga/light novel.
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Anthony on Mar 01, 2017, 01:29:49 AM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 01, 2017, 01:26:21 AM
Its not a very encouraging sign when a movie has near 4 credited writers, there are a few exceptions.

Well 2 of them only have a "Story By" credit, which implies not much of their material is in the final film.
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: fiveways on Mar 01, 2017, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 28, 2017, 11:48:48 PM
Nice catch. Not sure which Dante Harper though. There was one who was writing Venom, one who is writing the new Akira and apparently worked on Edge of Tomorrow but isn't credited on IMDB.

God I hope Ghost in the Shell flops so any American attempt at AKIRA gets axed.

Also it was the Venom one according to IMDB.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0363837/


Quote from: Anthony on Mar 01, 2017, 01:29:49 AM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 01, 2017, 01:26:21 AM
Its not a very encouraging sign when a movie has near 4 credited writers, there are a few exceptions.

Well 2 of them only have a "Story By" credit, which implies not much of their material is in the final film.

Or at least one of them turned in a complete script.  Hopefully like engineers it leaks to the internet (though engineers to me is an even bigger mess than prometheus).

"Story by

There is a common misconception that a "story by" credit may be given to a person who simply has the story idea for a film or television program. This is never the case, as all writing credits are for actual writing. A written story document or treatment, or in some cases, a complete script are required to receive "Story by" credit. A writer may be accorded a "Story by" credit, only, despite having written a complete script if, for example, a subsequent writer does a "page one rewrite" that entitles him/her to sole "Screenplay by" credit. For theatrical motion pictures, only, the first writer on an original screenplay is titled to no less than shared "Story by" credit. This is known as the Irreducible Story Minimum.[19]"

Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Anthony on Mar 01, 2017, 02:43:13 AM
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 01, 2017, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 28, 2017, 11:48:48 PM
Nice catch. Not sure which Dante Harper though. There was one who was writing Venom, one who is writing the new Akira and apparently worked on Edge of Tomorrow but isn't credited on IMDB.

God I hope Ghost in the Shell flops so any American attempt at AKIRA gets axed.

Also it was the Venom one according to IMDB.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0363837/


Quote from: Anthony on Mar 01, 2017, 01:29:49 AM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 01, 2017, 01:26:21 AM
Its not a very encouraging sign when a movie has near 4 credited writers, there are a few exceptions.

Well 2 of them only have a "Story By" credit, which implies not much of their material is in the final film.

Or at least one of them turned in a complete script.  Hopefully like engineers it leaks to the internet (though engineers to me is an even bigger mess than prometheus).

"Story by

There is a common misconception that a "story by" credit may be given to a person who simply has the story idea for a film or television program. This is never the case, as all writing credits are for actual writing. A written story document or treatment, or in some cases, a complete script are required to receive "Story by" credit. A writer may be accorded a "Story by" credit, only, despite having written a complete script if, for example, a subsequent writer does a "page one rewrite" that entitles him/her to sole "Screenplay by" credit. For theatrical motion pictures, only, the first writer on an original screenplay is titled to no less than shared "Story by" credit. This is known as the Irreducible Story Minimum.[19]"

Exactly. A recent example is Gary Whitta, who wrote the first script for Rogue One but only has a story credit in the final film.
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: fiveways on Mar 01, 2017, 03:59:17 AM
Quote from: Anthony on Mar 01, 2017, 02:43:13 AM
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 01, 2017, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 28, 2017, 11:48:48 PM
Nice catch. Not sure which Dante Harper though. There was one who was writing Venom, one who is writing the new Akira and apparently worked on Edge of Tomorrow but isn't credited on IMDB.

God I hope Ghost in the Shell flops so any American attempt at AKIRA gets axed.

Also it was the Venom one according to IMDB.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0363837/


Quote from: Anthony on Mar 01, 2017, 01:29:49 AM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 01, 2017, 01:26:21 AM
Its not a very encouraging sign when a movie has near 4 credited writers, there are a few exceptions.

Well 2 of them only have a "Story By" credit, which implies not much of their material is in the final film.

Or at least one of them turned in a complete script.  Hopefully like engineers it leaks to the internet (though engineers to me is an even bigger mess than prometheus).

"Story by

There is a common misconception that a "story by" credit may be given to a person who simply has the story idea for a film or television program. This is never the case, as all writing credits are for actual writing. A written story document or treatment, or in some cases, a complete script are required to receive "Story by" credit. A writer may be accorded a "Story by" credit, only, despite having written a complete script if, for example, a subsequent writer does a "page one rewrite" that entitles him/her to sole "Screenplay by" credit. For theatrical motion pictures, only, the first writer on an original screenplay is titled to no less than shared "Story by" credit. This is known as the Irreducible Story Minimum.[19]"

Exactly. A recent example is Gary Whitta, who wrote the first script for Rogue One but only has a story credit in the final film.

I still haven't seen Rogue One.  I'll watch it when it hits netflix (as star wars is on canadian netflix)
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Protozoid on Mar 01, 2017, 04:36:47 AM
Covenant will be Harper's first produced screenplay, unless he uses an pseudonym.

Is it possible - and I know this is weird - that Harper wrote the prologue and they are only crediting him because they used the prologue in the trailer? Or is the prologue officially part of the movie, now?

Hopefully four writers and a bunch of reshoots and recuts were good for the film...
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Mar 01, 2017, 11:46:29 AM
Hmm intriguing, but its good to know they are still credited in some way.

Its very similar to Alien 3 in that regard with the Story by Vincent Ward credit and Larry Ferguson getting a co-writer credit, because Giler and Hill used some of his stuff, when they did their many rewrites
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 01, 2017, 01:26:12 PM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Mar 01, 2017, 01:26:21 AM
Its not a very encouraging sign when a movie has near 4 credited writers, there are a few exceptions.

Like Alien.
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Necronomicon II on Mar 01, 2017, 01:27:57 PM
^ Yup.
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: D. Compton Ambrose on Mar 03, 2017, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Mar 01, 2017, 01:27:57 PM
^ Yup.
Same. There are benefits to having a wider pool of creativity that a film with one guy dominating the whole thing does not have.
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 09, 2017, 10:02:14 AM
Dante's draft of Edge of Tomorrow. I've not read it yet so don't know what it's like.
Title: Re: New writer credit in the new trailer: Dante Harper
Post by: Protozoid on Mar 09, 2017, 05:28:16 PM
Quote from: LCpl. D. Grant on Mar 03, 2017, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Mar 01, 2017, 01:27:57 PM
^ Yup.
Same. There are benefits to having a wider pool of creativity that a film with one guy dominating the whole thing does not have.
Hopefully, yeah. But how many people felt that having a second writer on Prometheus resulted in a messy script? A lot of fans were saying that, even if it wasn't necessarily true. If they believe that, though, they must be worried about Covenant undergoing a much more protracted development with some fairly substantial changes in direction occurring at some point. Based on test screening reports, it sounds like the movie's identity is pretty fluid right now, as if they filmed the movie different ways and are trying to find a combination that everyone likes. This sounds like the committee approach. I hope it works. Personally, I prefer when Scott sticks to his guns, but that's harder to do with expensive franchise movies. To me, Scott is better the kookier he's allowed to be.