VMP2: PREDATOR 2: Is the City Hunter Predator "bad blood"?

Started by Voodoo Magic, Feb 12, 2019, 05:13:36 PM

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Samhain13

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 26, 2019, 04:47:36 PM
Compare that to the apparent honorable treatment Scar's body received in the 2004 film "Alien vs Predator", where four Predators carried Scar's dead body out on a stretcher.

They used a stretcher because they didn't want to touch Scar's ugly ass.  :P. The crap design made the whole sequence look bad.

Differents clans too, the ones from P2 are just old school.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 26, 2019, 05:02:28 PM
Don't four of them pick him up and carry him on their shoulders in Predator 2?

Definitely not.  If four Predators picked the City Hunter up and carried him/her on their shoulders, I'm probably not posting this thread!  ;D

QuoteEither way, they still come across as obviously reverent to me.

Totally fair conclusion!

Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 26, 2019, 05:02:45 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 26, 2019, 04:47:36 PM
Compare that to the apparent honorable treatment Scar's body received in the 2004 film "Alien vs Predator", where four Predators carried Scar's dead body out on a stretcher.

They used a stretcher because they didn't want to touch Scar's ugly ass.  :P. The crap design made the whole sequence look bad.

Well dammit!! How do I argue with that???  :D

QuoteDifferents clans too, the ones from P2 are just old school.

I love me some old school!

JokersWarPig

Well, one could argue all the P2 Predators were hunting in a population zone. I honestly doubt they all sat on the ship and waited for CH to finish his hunt.

You can also argue that different clans have different burial rights/ways to handle the head. They're probably all similar, but differ slightly clan to clan. Scar's body could have been handled that way for a few different reasons; One reason could be that the clan Scar was a part of were all blood related in some way (they all look similar in skin/body type). The Lost Tribe looks to be more of a group of individuals who came together to hunt, all their skin tones are different and there are even differences in their armor that make them appear more rag tag and less uniform than the clan from AVP.

So how the Lost Tribe members handled his body probably was honorable based on their own clan structure and his rank within the clan.

Scar had also killed several aliens and faced off against a queen who he did end up defeating, so his clan probably held him in extra high regard. He did go from being unblooded to defeating what is probably the strongest member of the hive.

Samhain13

Samhain13

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Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 26, 2019, 05:12:59 PM
Well, one could argue all the P2 Predators were hunting in a population zone. I honestly doubt they all sat on the ship and waited for CH to finish his hunt.

I never had that impression. I think its implied that only CH hunted, even if its weird for the others to just watch from the ship. Maybe CH was being evaluated during the hunt, a testing like the one in AVP.

On the novel CH wanted to hunt on Earth due to Anytime dying here. He could have asked his buddies to pay for the ride and hunt here, maybe it was his birthday or a predator's equivalent of a Bachelor party. That's why CH was allowed to practice some bad behavior.

Voodoo Magic

Voodoo Magic

#184
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 26, 2019, 05:12:59 PM
Well, one could argue all the P2 Predators were hunting in a population zone. I honestly doubt they all sat on the ship and waited for CH to finish his hunt.

Or, as i surmised in the OP,  the other Predators made an appearance at the end of the movie realising the "bad blood" City Hunter was getting out of hand, arrived from a different ship, and boarded the City Hunter's ship just in time to see Mike kill the City Hunter?



;D

That's just me theorizing. Who knows. But being reckless and never hunting in a population center before were the writers' ideas. So would a clan just sit and watch that? Not sure.

QuoteYou can also argue that different clans have different burial rights/ways to handle the head. They're probably all similar, but differ slightly clan to clan. Scar's body could have been handled that way for a few different reasons; One reason could be that the clan Scar was a part of were all blood related in some way (they all look similar in skin/body type). The Lost Tribe looks to be more of a group of individuals who came together to hunt, all their skin tones are different and there are even differences in their armor that make them appear more rag tag and less uniform than the clan from AVP.

So how the Lost Tribe members handled his body probably was honorable based on their own clan structure and his rank within the clan.

Scar had also killed several aliens and faced off against a queen who he did end up defeating, so his clan probably held him in extra high regard. He did go from being unblooded to defeating what is probably the strongest member of the hive.

Good points!


Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 26, 2019, 05:21:30 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 26, 2019, 05:12:59 PM
Well, one could argue all the P2 Predators were hunting in a population zone. I honestly doubt they all sat on the ship and waited for CH to finish his hunt.

I never had that impression. I think its implied that only CH hunted, even if its weird for the others to just watch from the ship. Maybe CH was being evaluated during the hunt, a testing like the one in AVP.

Great point! The CH was confirmed as young.

QuoteOn the novel CH wanted to hunt on Earth due to Anytime dying here. He could have asked his buddies to pay for the ride and hunt here, maybe it was his birthday or a predator's equivalent of a Bachelor party. That's why CH was allowed to "break some rules".

The Yautja Bachelor Party Theory!  :laugh:  We need to immortalize that on Xenopedia!



Samhain13

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 26, 2019, 05:22:24 PM
The Yautja Bachelor Party Theory!  :laugh:  We need to immortalize that on Xenopedia!

CANON!

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 26, 2019, 05:32:12 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 26, 2019, 05:22:24 PM
The Yautja Bachelor Party Theory!  :laugh:  We need to immortalize that on Xenopedia!

CANON!


bobcunk

The Predators are hunting for fun, using different weapons and ways of killing when it was unnecessary to do so,they were hunting for food or in defence. Wouldn't that all be sadistic? Or maybe they see themself being som much better than humans that it doesn't even count as killing. no one would call an exterminator a sadistic war criminal, but in reality he just committed mass genocide of innocent beings.

Corporal Hicks

I think the difference is - as far as I'm aware - you don't get into bug extermination for the enjoyment of it.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: bobcunk on Mar 30, 2022, 02:13:18 AM
The Predators are hunting for fun, using different weapons and ways of killing when it was unnecessary to do so,they were hunting for food or in defence. Wouldn't that all be sadistic? Or maybe they see themself being som much better than humans that it doesn't even count as killing. no one would call an exterminator a sadistic war criminal, but in reality he just committed mass genocide of innocent beings.

Hunters don't tend to consider themselves as sadistic when hunting for sport (fun), and often have the "put it out of its misery" mentality once the prey is down. The difference I think is the enjoyment had at hunting, stalking, and killing your prey... versus torturing your prey.... and the torturing would be considered sadistic (as City Hunter did to Harrigan).

City Hunter Yautja

City Hunter does seem to have a bloodlust, he picks situations for the most carnage, placing himself in harms way even, a la the train and apartment. Its as if the cauldron of bloodshed he creates around himself is a drug.

That said, the way he leaps into fray makes me wonder if he comes from a Warrior Tribe rather than a Hunter discipline, for as I have pointed out before City prefer melee weapons to a Plasma Caster, while Jungle Hunter used his caster much more, like a true hunter firing from cloak and cover.

Voodoo Magic

I could go along with that Warrior Tribe headcanon!

City Hunter Yautja

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 03, 2022, 01:49:15 PM
I could go along with that Warrior Tribe headcanon!

It definitely my headcanon now.

I also wondered if City Hunter was a Bad Blood seeking redemption, that if he found a worthy trophy he would be pardoned of his breeches of Yautja Honor. It could explain why the Elder was there, to observe and sentence judgement like an arbiter.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Apr 03, 2022, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 03, 2022, 01:49:15 PM
I could go along with that Warrior Tribe headcanon!

It definitely my headcanon now.

I also wondered if City Hunter was a Bad Blood seeking redemption, that if he found a worthy trophy he would be pardoned of his breeches of Yautja Honor. It could explain why the Elder was there, to observe and sentence judgement like an arbiter.

Could be!

My headcanon goes the other way, that the Lost Predators are here to detain him, because proper hunters don't behave in such a reckless manner. :)

(Bad Blood)

I do not have an answer for City Hunter but one thing is for sure...the Bad Blood Predator is a Bad Blood lol.

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