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Title: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: EJA on Jan 03, 2022, 01:48:43 PM
It's obvious when you think about it. He was never really that interested in doing more Alien movies; his real goal was to do a story where androids created by humans turn on humanity. It's why he diminishes the Alien and makes David the big villain in both prequels, even going so far as to state outright that the Alien itself is merely a pawn of David.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jan 03, 2022, 02:17:44 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 03, 2022, 03:15:56 PM
Incorrect he cites the Alien as David's equal that will bring about the destruction of humanity in Alien Covenant's Commentary.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Jan 03, 2022, 03:26:37 PM
He wanted to make a movie dealing with the Space Jockey, which he correctly says, hasn't been explored in any of the other Alien films to date.

When Prometheus was released, Michael Fassbender's "David" character received critical acclaim, making Scott shift his focus to David specifically.

The idea of David creating the Alien only occurred to him during Alien: Covenant's production.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 03, 2022, 04:40:23 PM
But where does the obsession with mullets come from?
Title: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about mullets.
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Jan 03, 2022, 04:54:23 PM
Post Chappie.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 03, 2022, 07:10:00 PM
And Chappie wouldn't exist without Mr Binks :p

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Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Kradan on Jan 03, 2022, 08:19:30 PM
https://youtu.be/YanygqCkOMk (https://youtu.be/YanygqCkOMk)
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 03, 2022, 10:44:14 PM
:laugh:

The first comment is somewhat depressing though :'(

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Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: EJA on Jan 04, 2022, 02:32:26 PM
Come on, he clearly wants to do a David horror series.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Kradan on Jan 04, 2022, 03:37:42 PM
And ?
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: EJA on Jan 04, 2022, 06:01:26 PM
And that is not what Alien is. It diminishes the cosmic horror.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Kradan on Jan 04, 2022, 06:33:56 PM
Maybe, but I'll take that crazy old man babbling over the most other entries into the frnachise
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 04, 2022, 07:02:24 PM
Quote from: EJA on Jan 04, 2022, 06:01:26 PM
And that is not what Alien is. It diminishes the cosmic horror.

All that raw material, with the capability for horrific, eldritch abominations coded within, had to come from somewhere out in space. ;)

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Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: SiL on Jan 04, 2022, 08:40:18 PM
In a lab made by tall pasty white humans.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Kradan on Jan 04, 2022, 08:42:44 PM
People will never get over it, huh ?
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 04, 2022, 08:44:39 PM
The Engineers made us, sure, but nothing anyways stating that the pathogen is also their creation — just that it is a tool they used, much like David did.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Kradan on Jan 04, 2022, 09:19:26 PM
I think SiL was more upset about Engineers being bunch of Dr. Manhattans
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: SiL on Jan 04, 2022, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 04, 2022, 08:44:39 PM
The Engineers made us, sure, but nothing anyways stating that the pathogen is also their creation — just that it is a tool they used, much like David did.
There's likewise nothing stating they didn't, so I still can't give it points as some ancient cosmic horror.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 05, 2022, 08:25:28 AM
I'm more upset about them being Engineers honestly, than either their relationship to the Alien itself, or their retrofitted appearance.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: EJA on Jan 10, 2022, 04:34:25 PM
Now the series is just about Dr, Manhattan clones and David robots.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 10, 2022, 08:05:31 PM
I think the thread title kinda predicted the future about Noah's series  :laugh:
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jan 11, 2022, 02:20:25 PM
Hopefully not.
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: EJA on Jan 11, 2022, 04:40:09 PM
And we will never know why they wanted humans to go to their planet. Ugh, did the writers think any of this through???
Title: Re: Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie series about robots
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jan 11, 2022, 04:45:50 PM
Quote from: EJA on Jan 11, 2022, 04:40:09 PM
And we will never know why they wanted humans to go to their planet. Ugh, did the writers think any of this through???

Prometheus' script is messy as can be, but that part is easy enough to figure out, based on the information in the film. At the time of humanity's creation, the Engineers left the star maps on Earth so that we could come find them when we are ready to leave our world and explore the stars. At some point ~2000 years ago, long before we ever became a spacefaring race, we did something that upset the Engineers and made them change their minds about us and want to snuff us out before we ever reached that point, so the installation on LV-223 that the maps directed to was converted to a weapons facility where the Pathogen was being loaded up to be brought to Earth, only there was an outbreak in the installation that killed all but one of the Engineers before they could ever make their way to Earth with their deadly cargo.