http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/creative-assembly-rumored-development-alien-isolation-2/
I hope its true, I could actually see a sequel still getting made.
Please be true. C-A understands Alien better than Ridley nowadays.
Fingers crossed.
Sales were an issue with Alien Isolation, but why not make the sequel have a more compact story and sell it for $30? That's the exact price that Outlast 2 is currently going for and it's likely going to sell very well and it's a similar type of game. The previous game could have had a few missions cut out and it still would have been a satisfying experience. Either that or they would have to put multiplayer into the game, which I'd rather they not.
Quote from: reecebomb on Apr 25, 2017, 08:50:18 PM
C-A understands Alien better than Ridley nowadays.
Until I see a Ridley Scott Alien stomping around like a dinosaur, then no they don't.
Quote from: PsyKore on Apr 26, 2017, 12:54:04 AM
Quote from: reecebomb on Apr 25, 2017, 08:50:18 PM
C-A understands Alien better than Ridley nowadays.
Until I see a Ridley Scott Alien stomping around like a dinosaur, then no they don't.
The alien itself has plenty of room for improvements, the stompwalk and some of the noises bothered me too, but it also had it's moments (mostly scripted) when it moved slowly and gracefully, that's when the alien creature is the most effective and what makes it scary. Alien Covenant so far has this ultra agressive animal with rabies, although it remains to be seen if the final film will deliver.
But the Alien:Isolation didn't succeed only with the alien creature itself, the environments and atmosphere, the feel were far better than what was shown in Prometheus or Covenant (so far). Isolation is the best thing the franchise has given us after Alien 3.
Eurogamer has just quashed the rumour: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-04-26-alien-isolation-2-rumour-isnt-true
Apparently the majority of the Alien Isolation design team no longer work for Creative Assembly.
#heartbroken
While I too would have liked a sequel, it might be for the best. Alien: Isolation works as a standalone game, sequels are a roll of the dice and we could end up with another A:CM.
A:I redeemed the franchise somewhat, I don't think it would be wise to risk it just to make some money and please some fans. A high note is good way to leave things.
I was hoping they could come back and advance the series. Isolation was amazing but I don't want a repeat. I wish they'd do a real Aliens kind of thing: make the weaponry a burden, make the player dependent on each member of your team (in Aliens, Hudson's specialty seemed to be maps, unlocking doors, etc; other people were designated smartgunners, logistics etc. That could work well in a game.) If you watch Aliens you realise that without motion trackers the Marines had no chance at all. They would be sitting in Operations and the Aliens would just drop on them. Isolation had to make the Alien very loud: take that away. Imagine turning around to see the corridors being silently swarmed: firing your gun means you waste ammo, and might harm your team mates or the environment in harmful ways.
Resident Evil: Outbreak had some good ideas regarding this: building impediments and nailing shut doors.
Just riffing but I think C.A. can do Aliens justice. You can make an intelligent, tense, and scary FPS type game if you don't approach it purely as an FPS.
I'm disappointed, but sadly not very surprised by the news.
Awww... No more Stompy. So sad.
AAA video game production is often much like making AAA movies. Talent is hired, usually under contract to create the experience and gets paid. Once it is finished, everyone parties, shakes hands and says goodbye.
CA may pick up a sequel one day but you won't see exactly the same team working on a sequel to this game, anyway.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: The Joker on Apr 25, 2017, 11:59:41 PM
Fingers crossed.
Sales were an issue with Alien Isolation, but why not make the sequel have a more compact story and sell it for $30? That's the exact price that Outlast 2 is currently going for and it's likely going to sell very well and it's a similar type of game.
The sales thing still seems bizarre to me. 2.1 million in six months is generally something to be very proud of.
My understanding is that they needed to recoup the cost of licencing several games, but both AvP3 and Colonial Marines have sold in the two million region to date (Isolation's around 3 million now, it's at 2.42m without counting Steam sales). None of these games were commercial failures.
I can only think that the licence must have been massively overpriced.
(Edit: clarified the numbers.)
Quote from: reecebomb on Apr 26, 2017, 10:19:19 AM
Quote from: PsyKore on Apr 26, 2017, 12:54:04 AM
Quote from: reecebomb on Apr 25, 2017, 08:50:18 PM
C-A understands Alien better than Ridley nowadays.
Until I see a Ridley Scott Alien stomping around like a dinosaur, then no they don't.
The alien itself has plenty of room for improvements, the stompwalk and some of the noises bothered me too, but it also had it's moments (mostly scripted) when it moved slowly and gracefully, that's when the alien creature is the most effective and what makes it scary. Alien Covenant so far has this ultra agressive animal with rabies, although it remains to be seen if the final film will deliver.
But the Alien:Isolation didn't succeed only with the alien creature itself, the environments and atmosphere, the feel were far better than what was shown in Prometheus or Covenant (so far). Isolation is the best thing the franchise has given us after Alien 3.
In that case I agree with you. And I loved it too when the Alien moved slow and silently. I only saw it happen very few times (outside of scripts), but it was so unnerving when it happened.
Quote from: Vertigo on Apr 27, 2017, 12:33:56 AM
Quote from: The Joker on Apr 25, 2017, 11:59:41 PM
Fingers crossed.
Sales were an issue with Alien Isolation, but why not make the sequel have a more compact story and sell it for $30? That's the exact price that Outlast 2 is currently going for and it's likely going to sell very well and it's a similar type of game.
The sales thing still seems bizarre to me. 2.1 million is generally something to be very proud of. My understanding is that they needed to recoup the cost of licencing several games, but both AvP3 and Colonial Marines sold well over a million copies. None of these games were commercial failures.
I can only think that the licence must have been massively overpriced.
I would think 2 million is an accomplishment, myself. It reminds me of when Tomb Raiders sales were said to be disappointing, but that even sold more IIRC.
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I would think 2 million is an accomplishmen, myself. It reminds me of when Tomb Raiders sales were said to be disappointing, but that even sold more IIRC.
Sega seemed to think they were gonna sell COD numbers with their niche horror game. It did pretty well for the type of game it was and it had an uphill battle to convince buyers after gearbox f**ked up so tremendously.
Shame about the sequel rumors i was hype for a second
That's a damn shame!
Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 26, 2017, 08:43:36 PM
I was hoping they could come back and advance the series. Isolation was amazing but I don't want a repeat. I wish they'd do a real Aliens kind of thing: make the weaponry a burden, make the player dependent on each member of your team (in Aliens, Hudson's specialty seemed to be maps, unlocking doors, etc; other people were designated smartgunners, logistics etc. That could work well in a game.) If you watch Aliens you realise that without motion trackers the Marines had no chance at all. They would be sitting in Operations and the Aliens would just drop on them. Isolation had to make the Alien very loud: take that away. Imagine turning around to see the corridors being silently swarmed: firing your gun means you waste ammo, and might harm your team mates or the environment in harmful ways.
Resident Evil: Outbreak had some good ideas regarding this: building impediments and nailing shut doors.
Just riffing but I think C.A. can do Aliens justice. You can make an intelligent, tense, and scary FPS type game if you don't approach it purely as an FPS.
This is what they promised Colonial Marines would be early on :(
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Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 26, 2017, 08:43:36 PM
I was hoping they could come back and advance the series. Isolation was amazing but I don't want a repeat. I wish they'd do a real Aliens kind of thing
Aliens is already the most emulated part of the franchise in video games, most if not all AVP games have colonial marines and ridged aliens, so if you don't want a repeat, then don't wish that they should go back to a formula that is old and stale.... and at worst, was Aliens:Colonial Marines. :P Alien Isolation is great for many reason, one of them being that it referenced the first film and not the second. This is also why a sequel may not work, you don't want to retread A:I but it would be equally bad if not worse to retread the "Aliens" formula.
I agree that in a such a formula, having weapons being limited, ammo being limited and having to rely on a motion track that is not on the HUD or better yet, only held by one person in the squad would be brilliant. I just don't think we need more "Aliens" theme games yet.
Quote from: The Cruentus on May 02, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
you don't want to retread A:I but it would be equally bad if not worse to retread the "Aliens" formula.
I agree that in a such a formula, having weapons being limited, ammo being limited and having to rely on a motion track that is not on the HUD or better yet, only held by one person in the squad would be brilliant. I just don't think we need more "Aliens" theme games yet.
I disagree, I'm still waiting for an Aliens game that centers on the Colonial Marines with squad based game play like the old "The Thing" game but has the atmosphere of Dead Space/Dead Space 2. I think something like that would give new life to the video game part of the franchise.
Quote from: The Cruentus on May 02, 2017, 12:22:21 PM
"Quote from: Valaquen on Apr 26, 2017, 08:43:36 PM
I was hoping they could come back and advance the series. Isolation was amazing but I don't want a repeat. I wish they'd do a real Aliens kind of thing
Aliens is already the most emulated part of the franchise in video games, most if not all AVP games have colonial marines and ridged aliens, so if you don't want a repeat, then don't wish that they should go back to a formula that is old and stale.... and at worst, was Aliens:Colonial Marines. :P Alien Isolation is great for many reason, one of them being that it referenced the first film and not the second. This is also why a sequel may not work, you don't want to retread A:I but it would be equally bad if not worse to retread the "Aliens" formula.
I agree that in a such a formula, having weapons being limited, ammo being limited and having to rely on a motion track that is not on the HUD or better yet, only held by one person in the squad would be brilliant. I just don't think we need more "Aliens" theme games yet.
When I say I don't want a repeat, I mean I don't want to see C:A repeat themselves. I mean, they could, but if they did I'd like to see them refine the old stuff and innovate with new stuff. I think they could do a stellar Aliens game; there hasn't been one, though there are, as you point out, about a hundred attempts out there.
I'm still waiting on a solid Aliens game. A tactical, atmospheric horror game. Not run and gun style like how Colonial Marines turned out.
Sad news indeed... Best Alien game ever.
Maybe we should have an Alien game based off the trilogy (not the PS1 version), as one game where the player fights to survive in a Survival/Horror environment as Ellen Ripley in her encounters with the creature throughout the trilogy, based on the story of the films (unlike the PS1 version).
Could be some epic f**king shit maen.
I was hoping they would have re-released Alien Trilogy on the market place years ago. :'(
I want a REAL Aliens Colonial Marines!
I wouldn't like the Alien Isolation sequel. And the only reason for that is that the A.I. story is just right, no need to water it down with sequels.
However this team has more then proven itself. They had made a masterpiece that is better than a lot of Alien sequels are.
Having said that I would love if this team was given opportunity to make more content. For instance, a game about what happened on Hadley's hope.
The sad truth is that Alien Colonial Marines sold more copies than it should have due to the hype and pre-orders, and a lot of Alien fans got burned and didn't bought Alien Isolation because of that.
I loved Alien Isolation, but I don't think CA could improve upon it. They nailed the atmosphere/tension.
Would actually prefer to see the same studio make a Jurassic Park game in the same style (first person, stealth, limited weaponry, hiding from raptors, using the flare to distract the T-Rex etc).
Quote from: Adam802 on Apr 25, 2017, 07:46:23 PM
http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/creative-assembly-rumored-development-alien-isolation-2/
I hope its true, I could actually see a sequel still getting made.
Now that Halo Wars 2 is out and at least moderately successful I would think this is a possibility. They aren't currently developing any console games to the public knowledge so this makes sense.
I'd kill for a second Isolation game. Alien Isolation had some boring ass missions, but the atmosphere and feel of the game were ON POINT with what the first Alien movie taught us.
While it's depressing that the rumor is false... I would love to see another game that emulates what Isolation offered. Just with more meaningful and interesting missions.
Awww - that's a shame. It is the ONLY first person game I own - normally I don't like any video games that are any of the below...
- first person
- manga
- zombie
- football
- driving
- sports
- gta/mafia-ish
so I made a HUGE exception on getting alien isolation and probably would have purchased a follow up game, even if it was first person again, if it meant i'd be able to experience the alien universe one more time.
To be honest, assuming there is still a lot of assets and hardware around, the ONLY thing that a sequel needs to add is Multiplayer. Imagine a dedicated server hosting a large falling apart station, with like 64 player max, and 2 - 8 AI aliens running around. The online community is the perfect place to replicate people going crazy on a space station lol. All the team play, betrayal, trolling around and so forth. Just don't water down the environment, keep it interactive, and so forth. It would be like DayZ, but in a space station, and the Alien is a bigger threat than the players.
That's a shame Alien Isolation don't have a sequel, but if we could make an Alien game, i will recommend multiplayer like Friday the 13th the game. It would look amazing to play as an Alien and the Survivors. For the maps i would recommend Nostromo or Hadley Hope.
Quote from: NeoXenoPred on Jun 04, 2017, 02:51:19 AM
That's a shame Alien Isolation don't have a sequel, but if we could make an Alien game, i will recommend multiplayer like Friday the 13th the game. It would look amazing to play as an Alien and the Survivors. For the maps i would recommend Nostromo or Hadley Hope.
I think an alien player would be OP. How will you get the player to run away from fire? Or not sprint everywhere? Or even worse team up with humans?
That's right. That would be unbalanced. Aliens in other way are OP to human
In my case, I'd like a super-duper beefed up remake of Alien:Crew Expendable.
One in which the other crew members (Parker, Lambert, Dallas, Ash, Brett) actually star as important roles in the game, not just walk-on/walk-off cameos like the current version. You would have to converse, cajole, argue, threaten, plead etc. with each of their accurately reproduced personalities in order to defeat the alien. It would need some incredible A.I. programming to achieve this (in a non-linear, branching gameplay environment) but there you go, that's my dream.
TC
An Aliens take on Isolation is entirely possible, and could even tie into the ending of the first game.
Wasted opportunity if you don't tbh. Just adress the game like the first one, maybe expand multiplayer, and wheel in the cash.
To have 2 of these games with no valid conclusion to their story is just stupid. :'-(
Quote from: TC on Jun 22, 2017, 10:29:39 AM
In my case, I'd like a super-duper beefed up remake of Alien:Crew Expendable.
One in which the other crew members (Parker, Lambert, Dallas, Ash, Brett) actually star as important roles in the game, not just walk-on/walk-off cameos like the current version. You would have to converse, cajole, argue, threaten, plead etc. with each of their accurately reproduced personalities in order to defeat the alien. It would need some incredible A.I. programming to achieve this (in a non-linear, branching gameplay environment) but there you go, that's my dream.
TC
So you want an adventure game like Walking Dead? I don't but you are on to something with this idea.
Hope it's true :D
One of the most Optimized PC games ever haha.. :D
I would prefer a spin-off kind of a thing with Newt.
It should start with her seeing her father give birth to the chesburster. Then aliens start to kidnap colonists and slowly everything goes to shit. After you are left alone in the colony you must survive for set amount of time until Colonial Marines arrive. Game should end with you meeting Ripley.
Gameplay mechanics might be sandbox survival/scavanging gameplay (you need food, water, shelter to sleep some clever tools to avoid xenos) while trying to contact somebody or maybe in an act of desperation go look for you mother or brother. Some day/night cycle would be great (they mostly come out in the night) so you might be able to explore much more safely in the day time (perhaps outside even).
Since you know there are many aliens it might be possible for you to kill one or two by setting a traps but continuing Isolation tradition not in the direct way. You can also encounter some survivors still holed up somewher, but since Newt would know she is not safe with adults she need to avoid them. She can use ducts that even aliens can't fit.
The Aliens AI should still learn but if you are careful they might not even know that there is someone left. But after few encounters they will start to look for you through the station.
Just a few of my ideas for the Isolation sequel.
Sounds like a great idea to follow Newt's story but I wouldn't consider it as Alien Isolation 2. With Amanda's story unfinished on a cliff-hanger, people would be ticked off about that sort-of thing. Although something like a DLC standalone game could happen using the same engine. Either way, it's a helluva intriguing idea!